No man's Land

[JCuster]

I searched for a topic on this, but I didn't see it.
I just started reading Batman: No Man's Land. I liked the concept so I thought I'd give it a try. I'm into it so far, only on volume one though.
Anyone read this? Thoughts?

1st post btw

[dancj]

It's good stuff.

It's generally considered to be one of the best big Batman crossovers.

[carabas]

It's one of the best Batman stories ever as far as I am concerned.

[cdemink]

Easily the best Batman crossover ever done. But the trades don't do it justice. I think to really appreciate the MASSIVE scope of No Man's Land and all that it took to fix Gotham you'd be better off hunting down the singles. It's a pain but I think it's worth it. They leave a lot out of the trades (or they collect them in non-NML volumes like Nightwing or Robin).

[ffaristocrat]

Wikipedia has all the issues but not in reading order. Is there a list anywhere that does?

* Batman: No Man's Land #0
* Batman: No Man's Land #1
* No Man's Land: Secret Files & Origins #1
* Young Justice Special #1
* Batman: Harley Quinn (graphic novel)
* Detective Comics #730-741
* Batman #563-574
* Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight #116-126
* Batman: Shadow of the Bat #83-94
* Batman: Chronicles #16-18
* Catwoman #72-77
* Robin #67-73
* Nightwing #35-39
* Azrael #50-61
* JLA #32
* Hitman #37-46

[invisiboy]

Easily the best Batman crossover ever done. But the trades don't do it justice. I think to really appreciate the MASSIVE scope of No Man's Land and all that it took to fix Gotham you'd be better off hunting down the singles. It's a pain but I think it's worth it. They leave a lot out of the trades (or they collect them in non-NML volumes like Nightwing or Robin).

I agree. The story is really worthwhile. There's also a SWEET novel of the story .. by Rucka, of course.

[carabas]

Wikipedia has all the issues but not in reading order. Is there a list anywhere that does?


* No Man's Land: Secret Files & Origins #1
* Young Justice Special #1
* Batman: Harley Quinn (graphic novel)
* Catwoman #72-77
* Robin #67-73
* Azrael #50-61
* JLA #32
* Hitman #37-46

These you don't even need to bother with. (the Hitman story is quite good though, even though it has absolutely nothing at all to do with the NML story).
The rest you can just arrange in publication order. Or just get the trades.
Edit: hang on... That's a lot of Himan issues listed there. There's only two a two-parter of the book set in NML: a cute little vampire story that has nothing to do with the rest of NML. Just why all those others are listed... I guess it's just Wikipedia being Wikipedia.

[dreyga2000]

No Man's Land isn't a story... It's a status quo....

There are good and bad stories told within the status quo but IMO way more good than bad...

[Captain Jim]

I read it all in the individual issues when it first came out. It's outstanding.

[dancj]

No Man's Land isn't a story... It's a status quo....

There are good and bad stories told within the status quo but IMO way more good than bad...
That's a good way of putting it - and also an explanation of why it's so much better than the other crossovers.

Rather than having one big story told by multiple writers and artists it's got lots of smaller stories each told by a single creative team.

[WillPayne]

Hey JCuster, if you like Batman's no man's land, you'll probably like this series called "Preacher" its pretty good. you should check it out. I can send you the first 10 issues if you want.

[JCuster]

Hey JCuster, if you like Batman's no man's land, you'll probably like this series called "Preacher" its pretty good. you should check it out. I can send you the first 10 issues if you want.

hahaha, good 1 bro!!11!11

Hey Brorschach, let's find a DC equivalent of skrulls. I feel bad having all this pent-up anger towards Marvel right now.

[WillPayne]

hahaha, good 1 bro!!11!11

Hey Brorschach, let's find a DC equivalent of skrulls. I feel bad having all this pent-up anger towards Marvel right now.

Haha I guess with the whole Final Crisis it would be the Anti-life Equation. except Batman ruled and kicked Darkseid's @$$ and didn't let Joker do it for him. So you can't really be mad about that one. But I guess you can be mad at how its confusing as CRAP!

[cdemink]

Wikipedia has all the issues but not in reading order. Is there a list anywhere that does?

* Batman: No Man's Land #0
* Batman: No Man's Land #1
* No Man's Land: Secret Files & Origins #1
* Young Justice Special #1
* Batman: Harley Quinn (graphic novel)
* Detective Comics #730-741
* Batman #563-574
* Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight #116-126
* Batman: Shadow of the Bat #83-94
* Batman: Chronicles #16-18
* Catwoman #72-77
* Robin #67-73
* Nightwing #35-39
* Azrael #50-61
* JLA #32
* Hitman #37-46

Yes. I didn't include the Hitman issues, but I've placed them all in a suggested reading order. The issues in gray are those not collected by the TPBs.

Click here - No Man's Land Reading Order (http://batmanytb.com/comics/storyarcs/nomansland.php)

[numberONE]

^ Great site, that.

As for No Man's Land, yes, it's a very good story. I just read it, not too long ago, and really enjoyed it.

One thing that really bugged me, though, was Superman's involvement. Couldn't Superman have cleaned-up No Man's Man in, like, a few days? I remember they had some lame excuse about why he couldn't help, but it was...lame.

[numberONE]

^ Great site, that.

As for No Man's Land, yes, it's a very good story. I just read it, not too long ago, and really enjoyed it.

One thing that really bugged me, though, was Superman's involvement. Couldn't Superman have cleaned-up No Man's Man in, like, a few days? I remember they had some lame excuse about why he couldn't help, but it was...lame.

[Vidocq]

Love No Man's Land. Only read the trades though so there is like 40 issues of it that I missed. Also I hear that the Novel is pretty good. I'm not usually into Superhero Novels but this one got so good reviews.

^ Great site, that.
As for No Man's Land, yes, it's a very good story. I just read it, not too long ago, and really enjoyed it.

One thing that really bugged me, though, was Superman's involvement. Couldn't Superman have cleaned-up No Man's Man in, like, a few days?
He tried but he made the same mistake Batman did in the Beggining. He thought that people would reverse to the Law state instead of adapting to their enviorment. He could clean up the City in a few days but it was closed down and no help was coming, It was a Lawless Region and people would've reverted it to it's Natural state. It wasn't lame it was a perfectly reasonable explanation. Even Superstrength can't change human nature.

Batman even tried to warn him, but Supes just thought that he was being territorial.

[dancj]

One thing that really bugged me, though, was Superman's involvement. Couldn't Superman have cleaned-up No Man's Man in, like, a few days? I remember they had some lame excuse about why he couldn't help, but it was...lame.
I agree. It was a very unconvincing excuse for Superman (and the rest of the superheroes) not just going in there and fixing the place, but I guess they felt they needed to justify the status quo.

[carabas]

Superman could have gone in and repaired the city, fixed the water, all that stuff, but that would not fix No Man's Land.

Besides, Superman or the Flash can stop most big stories two pages into the first issue. This is no different.

[tomstoyz]

This story line was novelized into a paperback book a few years back. Try to find it because it's a really great story. I just read it for the 1st time about a month ago & totally loved it!

[DetectiveDupin]

No Man's Land was good, but not great, at least for me. I think some of the art is what ruins it for me.

[Mat001]

I agree. It was a very unconvincing excuse for Superman (and the rest of the superheroes) not just going in there and fixing the place, but I guess they felt they needed to justify the status quo.

Well, Clark did have the heroes help out when Metropolis was destroyed years earlier. But they had to go on about their business, which lead to Zatanna and Satanus rebuilding the city. So even then, the involvement wouldn't last long in Gotham.

[vitruvian]

Superman could have gone in and repaired the city, fixed the water, all that stuff, but that would not fix No Man's Land.

Had he and the other high-powered heroes done the physical repairs before the city was embargoed, however, it should have worked fine. Even once things had degenerated, physical repairs joined with helping out the GCPD keep order and quell looting/rioting/general crime until they had a chance to restore order (at least as much as usual) would have been effective. It was a combination of the federal government telling everybody to get out and blocking access to the city with the heroes being ineffective for reasons of plot that really messed up the city.

[carabas]

If writers ever start to use Superman (and all the other high-powered heroes, really) to their full capacity, DC will simply have to start printing comics about rogue jaywalkers and the Bridge Players League Of America because every interesting problem will be dealth with by page two.