Do You Want Fox To Make X-Men 4?

[Optic Rage!]

Question in title.

[Cayman]

Yes, but with Havok and Polaris in it.

[XaviersMisprint]

If it is about the next group of students. Rogue, Colossus, Iceman, Shadowcat, and Nightcrawler > Wolverine, Storm, Cyclops, and Jean Simmons Grey.

[Optic Rage!]

If it is about the next group of students. Rogue, Colossus, Iceman, Shadowcat, and Nightcrawler > Wolverine, Storm, Cyclops, and Jean Simmons Grey.

No, it's about Wolverine, of course.

[XaviersMisprint]

No, it's about Wolverine, of course.

Obviously, but I wish it wasn't. If it is just him out of the senior members, then I guess it'll do. Angel would be a nice addition as well. Get Beast AWAY from the big screen please. Maybe Siryn?

[Swashbuckler]

I think another one could be cool, even if Wolverine played the biggest part again. It'd be nic eto see another character be th efront runner, but Marvel just won't let it happen. They don't have enough faith.

Cyclops and Jean both being dead does put a dampener on having it be about the previous main squad, so bringing in new older characters or focusing on the younger kids is a must.

[The Jeeper 2.0]

Only way I'd wanna see an X4 made is if Cyclops was in it.

[Cayman]

Since we never saw Cyclops's body, he survived. Perhaps he's been abducted by X4's big bad, or ended up with the Morlocks, or something.

[Home made ectoplasm]

Maybe it will be about Anole and Match and Hellion and Elixir! And then they will all get 3 ongoings, like Deadpool!

[Optic Rage!]

Since we never saw Cyclops's body, he survived. Perhaps he's been abducted by X4's big bad, or ended up with the Morlocks, or something.

I wonder if they would bring him back in X4 over the shit storm drama over X3.

[JurassicParkIsAnAwesomeMovie]

Since we never saw Cyclops's body, he survived. Perhaps he's been abducted by X4's big bad, or ended up with the Morlocks, or something.

I'm hoping for this, he got tossed away like a little bitch, and that makes me a sad panda!!!:frown:

[ProfeZZor X]

If you want to know if it'll be made, here's somewhat of an answer from Donner:

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=287530

[Cayman]

I wonder if they would bring him back in X4 over the shit storm drama over X3.

Probably, I think Marsden's a lot more high profile actor than he was when X3 came out.

[timbox]

Pixar could make Surge and Armor look awesome. I vote yes.

[Personamanx]

The First two films got me into comics. As long as there's a Decent Director, and Writer who the Hell cares if Fox does it?

[ProfeZZor X]

If Fox was hellbent on doing X4, they should consider bringing in Havok to replace Scott. Possibly bring in Lorna, and create an even more complicated love triangle between him, Iceman, Lorna, Rogue, and Kitty. Keep Colossus (but not really, because he sucked and had little to no interaction in any of the 3 movies), keep Pyro, Storm, and pretty much all the remaining surviving characters from X3. Or at the very least, put the eldest members on a mission and leave it up to the kids to fend for themselves.

[Pach!]

Only if the movie will be good though! otherwise I want them to unmake it. and never make X4 again.

[Slant]

Possibly bring in Lorna, and create an even more complicated love triangle between him, Iceman, Lorna, Rogue, and Kitty.

I know you like Iceman but jeez...

[rick]

I actually enjoyed all 3 X-Films and even sort of like the Wolverine movie, so sure, more X-Men please.

[ProfeZZor X]

I know you like Iceman but jeez...

It has nothing to do with my liking of Iceman... So what, you expect them to make an X4 and NOT include the remaining characters from X3? And since they were the headliners by the end of the movie, it makes sense to bring them to the forefront... Not Storm, Wolverine, Beast, or anyone else... because they had their time.

I see nothing wrong with keeping the fledgling X-Men, and bringing in new characters. Just as long as they don't overshadow the fledgling X-Men. That's all I'm saying.

[Electric i]

For the love of god...NO.

[Filthy Mutie]

I guess I'd take a potentially crappy X-men movie over no X-Men movie. Maybe they can get it back up to X2-level of quality?

[Mike Klander]

I say no. Fox has been quick to just rush product out without really taking the time to look at the end product. I say give it to Disney.

[jarrod]

Can they remake X3 instead? It needs it...

Also, recast Storm plz.

[XaviersMisprint]

Can they remake X3 instead? It needs it...

Also, recast Storm plz.

Michelle Obama for Storm!

[jarrod]

Michelle Obama for Storm!
Well, they both look like men squeezed into dresses. Thumbs up!

[XaviersMisprint]

Well, they both look like men squeezed into dresses. Thumbs up!

If she's too cool to play Storm, then I am sure Oprah Winfrey is an obscure enough celebrity to play a humble role behind Wolverine.

[Filthy Mutie]

Well, they both look like men squeezed into dresses. Thumbs up!

I was thinking more of a Grace Jones with a white flat-top.

[ProfeZZor X]

Can they remake X3 instead? It needs it...

Also, recast Storm plz.

Jessica Lucas from that "Cloverfield" movie;

http://allserieslinamarcela.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/manpre.jpg

[.LuckyStar.]

No. I'd rather see the franchise rebooted with younger actors.

[frog]

Can they remake X3 instead? It needs it...

Also, recast Storm plz.

RuPaul. ....

[RolandJP]

RuPaul. ....



Well, they both look like men squeezed into dresses. Thumbs up!

That's just mean.


For shame you two are both mothers.

[frog]

That's just mean.


I expected more from a librarian and an educator.

RuPaul is an Atlanta homeboy!

Or homegirl.

[RolandJP]

RuPaul is an Atlanta homeboy!

Or homegirl.

See thats why Storm made it rain like it did in Georgia

[Washout]

No I don't. After seeing the way Fox ruins characters, I would like the rights to go back to Marvel/Disney, so Pixar can make amazing X-Men movies.

[Slant]

It has nothing to do with my liking of Iceman... So what, you expect them to make an X4 and NOT include the remaining characters from X3? And since they were the headliners by the end of the movie, it makes sense to bring them to the forefront... Not Storm, Wolverine, Beast, or anyone else... because they had their time.

I see nothing wrong with keeping the fledgling X-Men, and bringing in new characters. Just as long as they don't overshadow the fledgling X-Men. That's all I'm saying.
I was referring to the fact that you suggest they have Iceman romantically linked to 3 girls during the course of the movie.

And I doubt they'd do a movie without Storm, Wolverine, Cyclops, or Jean at the forefront. At least one or two would be. For all intents and purposes, they are the X-men.

[ProfeZZor X]

I was referring to the fact that you suggest they have Iceman romantically linked to 3 girls during the course of the movie.

And I doubt they'd do a movie without Storm, Wolverine, Cyclops, or Jean at the forefront. At least one or two would be. For all intents and purposes, they are the X-men.

We're talking about X4, so unless Jean sent Cyclops to an alternate dimension off-screen, or she somehow survived Wolverine's stabbing to the heart, they're both dead as far as everyone is concerned... And I would personally protest outside of the Fox Lot on Pico & Motor if they decide to call X4 "Wolverine & The X-Men"...

[Washout]

And I doubt they'd do a movie without Storm, Wolverine, Cyclops, or Jean at the forefront. At least one or two would be. For all intents and purposes, they are the X-men.

Have any of those characters besides Wolverine and Jean been at the forefront of an X-men movie? As far as I've seen the only characters who have had starring roles in the films besides Wolvie are Rogue in the first one and Jean in the third one. The rest are just support.

[Slant]

Right. Thats 2 of the 4 I mentioned, and Storm had a big name actress playing her.

Kinda my point. There's little chance of all of them being absent from another movie.

[jarrod]

I was referring to the fact that you suggest they have Iceman romantically linked to 3 girls during the course of the movie.
They should romantically link Lorna and Rogue instead.

[Monty_Cristo]

i just want a cameo of John Mayer as Shortpack.

[Slant]

They should romantically link Lorna and Rogue instead.

Yes, that would work.

[ProfeZZor X]

i just want a cameo of John Mayer as Shortpack.

Danny Devito isn't doing much these days either...

[coveredinbees]

Yes, and I want Patrick Stewart to come back to life, please.

[Monty_Cristo]

Danny Devito isn't doing much these days either...

too old. and he cleans his toe nails with butter knives.

[ProfeZZor X]

too old. and he cleans his toe nails with butter knives.


Ryan Seacrest?

[XSE Drake]

Seeing as how Fox seems to ruin everything they touch, I'd have to say no. I'd love Marvel/Disney to buy the rights back from Fox, but something tells me Fox would rather continue to shit on their properties than sell than to someone who'll treat them well.

[ProfeZZor X]

Right. Thats 2 of the 4 I mentioned, and Storm had a big name actress playing her.

Kinda my point. There's little chance of all of them being absent from another movie.

When Fox does "First Class", you can kiss Halle and Hugh goodbye. My intuition tells me they would use it to reboot the franchise from scratch in order to save money and try and redeem themselves. It's cheaper, they can use no name actors, they can use more of the budget for effects, and they can crank out a better script... Being in the industry for 15 years, AND previously working on the Fox lot (along with my dad), I can tell you that I do have a little inside knowledge and understanding of Fox's inner-workings - and what's more cost effective for them.

A little known fact about Rupert, is that when he bought Fox all those years ago, he was rude and cussed out the top talent for his movies when they didn't make big bucks? Coming from a publishing background, he didn't understand the industry. So for a number of years, stars were hessitant to work on Fox films for fear of Rupert's wrath and low pay. Then, some of his own film industry people eventually stepped in and told him that it was not cool (or wise) to abuse the people that were the stars of his films...

[Optic Rage!]

Every time i think of X3 i hate it just that little bit more. Cyclops & Storm need recasting, the costumes look a little dated now. The reboot would be the ideal choice, but i don't see Fox giving it up. I'm sick of Hugh Jackman as Wolverine, esp when i was never a fan of that version of Wolverine in the first place.

[Monty_Cristo]

Ryan Seacrest?

sure. that'll work. i just want it to be funny. or leaving people going "wtf."

[Slant]

When Fox does "First Class", you can kiss Halle and Hugh goodbye. My intuition tells me they would use it to reboot the franchise from scratch in order to save money and try and redeem themselves. It's cheaper, they can use no name actors, they can use more of the budget for effects, and they can crank out a better script... Being in the industry for 15 years, AND previously working on the Fox lot (along with my dad), I can tell you that I do have a little inside knowledge and understanding of Fox's inner-workings - and what's more cost effective for them.

And if/when they reboot, they'll still use the characters I mentioned earlier. That is, if they reboot. I'm not sure what "First Class" would be.

[FlyingFox]

I think they still need to make an X-Men 1, you know, a movie that focuses on the X-Men and not just wolverine.

[ProfeZZor X]

And if/when they reboot, they'll still use the characters I mentioned earlier. That is, if they reboot. I'm not sure what "First Class" would be.

If Fox was smart, they'd introduce characters in the sequences. First Class movie = the O5, Second Class movie = Giant Sized, Third Class movie = an assortment of X-Characters.

This way every X-Man in their respective group gets a relatively fair amount of screen time and is featured with a small cast of central characters. The story would be centralized around them and doesn't have a number of overly complicated subplots. The special efffects won't be as complicated having multiple characters, and they won't be compromised due to budget restrictions.

At the end of each movie, the team moves on and leaves just enough plot from the movie to come up with a reason to introduce the next X-Men team. People like yourself might not like that idea, but it's a fair way of doing these movies without any one character dominating or being the central part of the entire movie franchise.

[Washout]

If Fox was smart, they'd introduce characters in the sequences. First Class movie = the O5, Second Class movie = Giant Sized, Third Class movie = an assortment of X-Characters.

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I agree with this. Reboot and follow the comics.

X-men: First Class: Classic gathering the team story, epic battle with Magneto.

Uncanny X-men: Begin with Krakoa and end with the Phoenix Saga. Have a side story about Mystique gathering her Brotherhood. At the end of the film, Kitty joins the team.

Mutant Massacre: Begin with a fight with Mystique's Brotherhood that ends with Rogue permanently absorbing someone with strength, flight, etc. After that, Rogue joins the team, continue the story with the mutant massacre.

[ProfeZZor X]

I agree with this. Reboot and follow the comics.

X-men: First Class: Classic gathering the team story, epic battle with Magneto.

Uncanny X-men: Begin with Krakoa and end with the Phoenix Saga. Have a side story about Mystique gathering her Brotherhood. At the end of the film, Kitty joins the team.

Mutant Massacre: Begin with a fight with Mystique's Brotherhood that ends with Rogue permanently absorbing someone with strength, flight, etc. After that, Rogue joins the team, continue the story with the mutant massacre.

You sold me up until "Mystique" gathered the Brotherhood. I could see Magneto doing that after getting his butt whooped at the end of First Class. That would then necessitate the reason to bring in the Giant Sized team. Base of opperations for the Brotherhood... Wait for it... the Savage land. And somehow incorporate Krakoa as a part of it. Maybe as living biological weaponry for the Savage Land's defenses.

By movie's end, come up with yet another reason to bring in other characters. Just as long as it's not focused on any one character... Like the Phoenix Saga.

[Washout]

You sold me up until "Mystique" gathered the Brotherhood.

I really just wanted a reason to bring Rogue in early as a means to set up the cast for the last movie. I supposed Rogue could be in Magneto's Brotherhood.

[RolandJP]

I think they still need to make an X-Men 1, you know, a movie that focuses on the X-Men and not just wolverine.

Quoted for truth.

If I didn't know any better I would swear Wolverine led the X-men. Point 2--The only thing keeping Scott relevant is Emma. Point 3-- Professor X has been kicked to the curb.

[Slant]

If Fox was smart, they'd introduce characters in the sequences. First Class movie = the O5, Second Class movie = Giant Sized, Third Class movie = an assortment of X-Characters.


Doubt that. If they were to reboot, it'd probably end up more like the Ultimate line than any other. Its almost like the cartoons where they start with the most popular save a few, then move down the line.

I don't think there's any sense in sticking to the comics as far as introducing mutants. There's not much reason to hold off fan favorites like Storm, or Rogue for sequels when you can have them from the start. The movies got it right in that regard.

You'd be limiting yourself by only introducing the O5 as the only X-Men in the first movie. There's way too many popular X-Men that fans like to do that. Thats why they didn't do it in the movies, the Ultimate line, or any cartoon.

[ProfeZZor X]

Doubt that. If they were to reboot, it'd probably end up more like the Ultimate line than any other. Its almost like the cartoons where they start with the most popular save a few, then move down the line.

I don't think there's any sense in sticking to the comics as far as introducing mutants. There's not much reason to hold off fan favorites like Storm, or Rogue for sequels when you can have them from the start. The movies got it right in that regard.

You'd be limiting yourself by only introducing the O5 as the only X-Men in the first movie. There's way too many popular X-Men that fans like to do that. Thats why they didn't do it in the movies, the Ultimate line, or any cartoon.

You add too many characters and it'll blow up, just like X3 did... Having a host of characters in one movie defeats the purpose of having an action movie when all the studio is doing is paying hefty salaries for all these people. Not to mention the fact that if they signed a sequel clause in their contract, an even greater part of that next budget will go into those actors pockets. I mean do you honestly think Toby McGuire, the main actors from Harry Potter, or any other successful franchise consisently make the same amount of money for each sequel? I think not... And let's not forget who's financing this movie... Fox... So you're pretty much guarantee they will cut corners one way or another, which would likely be the special effects - and of course that defeats the purpose of making a movie about mutants if you can't even show what kinds of powers they have...

Now if they started it off with the original Ultimate X-Men cast (Jean, Cyke, Colossus, Beast, Storm, Iceman) it wouldn't be all that bad. Most of the characters would be pre-established and more in control of their abilities. However, it goes back to basics when you're talking about studio involvement, because for those that have not heard of or seen an X-Men movie, the studio will dumb it down a little bit for those people too. Still, you run into the same problem of having a multitude of characters, one way or another. There's no way around it, but if the studio stuck with the original Ultimate cast, not the add-ins that came later, they could conceiveably fight Magneto like in Uncanny #1... I'd buy that idea.

[Prodigy55]

They should make Ultimate X-Men into the movie, just the first arc. And keep the characterizations.

[the Hornet]

Question in title.

I prefer a reboot ala Batman Begins, not Star Trek, from the top.

Do it correctly with the first movie being a condensed version of the original 5 getting together and at the end of the closing credits we see the team arriving at Krakoa. The second movie can be about the all new all different team and the third can jump forward to characters introduced in the 80s to 90s.

[Slant]

You add too many characters and it'll blow up, just like X3 did... Having a host of characters in one movie defeats the purpose of having an action movie when all the studio is doing is paying hefty salaries for all these people. Not to mention the fact that if they signed a sequel clause in their contract, an even greater part of that next budget will go into those actors pockets. I mean do you honestly think Toby McGuire, the main actors from Harry Potter, or any other successful franchise consisently make the same amount of money for each sequel? I think not... And let's not forget who's financing this movie... Fox... So you're pretty much guarantee they will cut corners one way or another, which would likely be the special effects - and of course that defeats the purpose of making a movie about mutants if you can't even show what kinds of powers they have...

Now if they started it off with the original Ultimate X-Men cast (Jean, Cyke, Colossus, Beast, Storm, Iceman) it wouldn't be all that bad. Most of the characters would be pre-established and more in control of their abilities. However, it goes back to basics when you're talking about studio involvement, because for those that have not heard of or seen an X-Men movie, the studio will dumb it down a little bit for those people too. Still, you run into the same problem of having a multitude of characters, one way or another. There's no way around it, but if the studio stuck with the original Ultimate cast, not the add-ins that came later, they could conceiveably fight Magneto like in Uncanny #1... I'd buy that idea.

Actually, scratch the Ultimate idea. They should reboot it into X-Men Forever. :)

But Seriously, I just think that starting off with the O5, and such, is only appealing to comic fans. You have over 40 years worth of characters and storylines, so why make a movie with only things from the 60's?

[ProfeZZor X]

Actually, scratch the Ultimate idea. They should reboot it into X-Men Forever. :)

But Seriously, I just think that starting off with the O5, and such, is only appealing to comic fans. You have over 40 years worth of characters and storylines, so why make a movie with only things from the 60's?

Name one SUCCESSFUL comic book franchise that started out in the middle of it's long-standing continuity...... There are none.

And why, because that concept is MORE appealing for certain fans than the overall general populace studios are trying to appeal to. Just listen to yourself for a minute... You're basically saying forget about X-Men's beginnings, how they got started, and why they do what they do. Instead, skip 20 years into their continuity, start with who YOU think is popular right now, and then create a story from that?

Even Batman Begins didn't start with the Joker... Yet it was one of the most successful superhero movies of all time. Why, because WB took their time to get it right, by giving it humble beginnings. What you're asking for is to have a studio that already doesn't care about the franchise, throw a bunch of X-characters you like together, and slap an X-Men title on it.

[Omega Alpha]

Doubt that. If they were to reboot, it'd probably end up more like the Ultimate line than any other. Its almost like the cartoons where they start with the most popular save a few, then move down the line.

I don't think there's any sense in sticking to the comics as far as introducing mutants. There's not much reason to hold off fan favorites like Storm, or Rogue for sequels when you can have them from the start. The movies got it right in that regard.

You'd be limiting yourself by only introducing the O5 as the only X-Men in the first movie. There's way too many popular X-Men that fans like to do that. Thats why they didn't do it in the movies, the Ultimate line, or any cartoon.


Yeah, pretty much. They'd probably use Xavier, Cyclops, Beast, Jean, Storm, Logan plus a couple of others.

[4sake]

If Fox was smart, they'd introduce characters in the sequences. First Class movie = the O5, Second Class movie = Giant Sized, Third Class movie = an assortment of X-Characters.

This way every X-Man in their respective group gets a relatively fair amount of screen time and is featured with a small cast of central characters. The story would be centralized around them and doesn't have a number of overly complicated subplots. The special efffects won't be as complicated having multiple characters, and they won't be compromised due to budget restrictions.

At the end of each movie, the team moves on and leaves just enough plot from the movie to come up with a reason to introduce the next X-Men team. People like yourself might not like that idea, but it's a fair way of doing these movies without any one character dominating or being the central part of the entire movie franchise.

I agree with this. Reboot and follow the comics.

X-men: First Class: Classic gathering the team story, epic battle with Magneto.

Uncanny X-men: Begin with Krakoa and end with the Phoenix Saga. Have a side story about Mystique gathering her Brotherhood. At the end of the film, Kitty joins the team.

Mutant Massacre: Begin with a fight with Mystique's Brotherhood that ends with Rogue permanently absorbing someone with strength, flight, etc. After that, Rogue joins the team, continue the story with the mutant massacre.

I prefer a reboot ala Batman Begins, not Star Trek, from the top.

Do it correctly with the first movie being a condensed version of the original 5 getting together and at the end of the closing credits we see the team arriving at Krakoa. The second movie can be about the all new all different team and the third can jump forward to characters introduced in the 80s to 90s.

I like these ideas...:cool:

[rwsmith]

I'm pretty sure the next slate of X-men movies for Fox includes First Class, another Wolverine prequel, and a Deadpool movie.

The main question mark seems to be around X-men First Class and whether it will feature the O5 or the next generation of X-men. I keep hearing conflicting things on that front. Most recently there's been talk about them wanting Cable for the Deadpool movie, but they said that "because he's so complicated he might need to be introduced in the next X-men movie," so that eventually he can be in the Deadpool sequel. That implies that there will be another X-men movie, but it could very easily turn out to be First Class focused on the next generation of X-men being trained by Cable.

Not sure how I'd feel about that, actually, as I think Cable is one of those characters that would be very difficult to bring to the big screen. He's just too complicated. Having said that, if they just keep most of his origin a mystery (i.e., none of the Summers family/Askani nonsense) and perhaps even just imply that he's a time-traveler (perhaps because his weaponry and technology is so advanced) then that could be okay. But they couldn't just scrap all of the younger X-men in favor of New Mutants/original X-Force characters. I'd fully expect Kitty, Rogue and Iceman to be in there along with Cannonball, Warpath, Boomer and some others.

It could work, I guess. But I'd prefer another X-men movie that is well done (like X2) to any of that. Bring Cyclops back (no body, no death) and have it revolve around him, Emma Frost, Wolverine, Beast, Storm, Rogue, Iceman and Angel.

If they do introduce Cable (whether in an X-men movie or a Deadpool one), I'm keeping my fingers crossed that he'll be played by Gerard Butler (from 300). He'd be awesome as Cable IMO.

[Filthy Mutie]

They should make Ultimate X-Men into the movie, just the first arc. And keep the characterizations.

I'd be so into this.

[rwsmith]

I'm pretty sure the next slate of X-men movies for Fox includes First Class, another Wolverine prequel, and a Deadpool movie.

The main question mark seems to be around X-men First Class and whether it will feature the O5 or the next generation of X-men. I keep hearing conflicting things on that front. Most recently there's been talk about them wanting Cable for the Deadpool movie, but they said that "because he's so complicated he might need to be introduced in the next X-men movie," so that eventually he can be in the Deadpool sequel. That implies that there will be another X-men movie, but it could very easily turn out to be First Class focused on the next generation of X-men being trained by Cable.

If they do introduce Cable (whether in an X-men movie or a Deadpool one), I'm keeping my fingers crossed that he'll be played by Gerard Butler (from 300). He'd be awesome as Cable IMO.

Nevermind. Just did a quick Google search and it seems that Liefeld amended his original twitter post or whatever about Cable possibly being in future X-films to clarify that he won't be in the Deadpool movie or X-men: First Class. Which means he likely won't be in any movie. Ever.

From: http://splashpage.mtv.com/2009/09/23/facebook-the-movie-cables-x-film-prospects-and-donkey-kong-in-todays-twitter-report/

[Omega Alpha]

I'm pretty sure the next slate of X-men movies for Fox includes First Class, another Wolverine prequel, and a Deadpool movie.

The main question mark seems to be around X-men First Class and whether it will feature the O5 or the next generation of X-men. I keep hearing conflicting things on that front.

Nah, it will focus on Cyclops, Beast, Storm, etc, when they were younger.

If it ever happens, of course.

[The Sword Is Drawn]

After X3 and Wolverine? Dear God NO.

Let the franchise fall away for a decade and then allow somebody who actually understads the X-men to reboot it all.

[Slant]

Name one SUCCESSFUL comic book franchise that started out in the middle of it's long-standing continuity...... There are none.

And why, because that concept is MORE appealing for certain fans than the overall general populace studios are trying to appeal to. Just listen to yourself for a minute... You're basically saying forget about X-Men's beginnings, how they got started, and why they do what they do. Instead, skip 20 years into their continuity, start with who YOU think is popular right now, and then create a story from that?

Even Batman Begins didn't start with the Joker... Yet it was one of the most successful superhero movies of all time. Why, because WB took their time to get it right, by giving it humble beginnings. What you're asking for is to have a studio that already doesn't care about the franchise, throw a bunch of X-characters you like together, and slap an X-Men title on it.

The Joker is a villain. There's a difference there. And the X-Men's origin isn't as essential as say Spiderman's, where you have to have Uncle Ben and him getting bit by the spider.

TAS was the most popular incarnation of X-Men, and gained tons of new fans, and they started out in the middle. Its not as important for the X-Men. The first movie would have been trashed even more if they went in the direction you want them to go. Most fans of the X-Men became fans in the 90's and making the first movie without Storm, Wolverine, Rogue, etc. would have been terrible. Leaving out 1 or 2, like Nightcrawler, and saving them down the line is one thing, but there's now way they'd do it for all of the post O5 X-Men.

The way you'd want to do it only remotely appeals to comic fans, when the aim of these movies is the opposite. They can't put all the popular X-Men there, but they do put the core base in there, all the time, and its more than just the O5.

Its ridiculous, with all the X-Men's history and storylines, to try and limit a whole movie by only using characters and concepts from the 60's. You really want to use KRAKOA for a movie when you have all that other stuff thats more relevant to the X-Men's concept? Just because thats how they did it back then? Makes no sense. The O5 provide little diversity, and only 1 female member. Considering we're talking about the X-Men here, that just flat out wouldn't fly,

Everytime they introduce the X-Men to a different medium, or reboot them for a modern audience, they NEVER go down that route. Look at the Ultimate line, the movies, and every cartoon they've ever had. There's a reason they don't do it that way. It only appeases a portion of comic fans.

[Optic Rage!]

I don't see the point in doing the movie about the O5, leaving out Wolverine & Storm? That makes no sense. Like doing an Avengers movie without Captain America and Wasp.

Wolverine, Storm, Cyclops are must haves in any reboot, but then again, this is Fox. So they'd be ok with Wolverine and Halle Berry in an ugly wig.

[ProfeZZor X]

I don't see the point in doing the movie about the O5, leaving out Wolverine & Storm? That makes no sense. Like doing an Avengers movie without Captain America and Wasp.

Wolverine, Storm, Cyclops are must haves in any reboot, but then again, this is Fox. So they'd be ok with Wolverine and Halle Berry in an ugly wig.

That's why I was in agreement with Slant that if they did reboot, using the original Ultimate X-Men team would be the logical choice.

...But again, with so many characters, I'm affraid the effects will come out looking like an episode from Heroes... If that's the case, I'd rather keep my money, but if you guys are okay with that, more power to you.

The Joker is a villain. There's a difference there. And the X-Men's origin isn't as essential as say Spiderman's, where you have to have Uncle Ben and him getting bit by the spider.

TAS was the most popular incarnation of X-Men, and gained tons of new fans, and they started out in the middle. Its not as important for the X-Men. The first movie would have been trashed even more if they went in the direction you want them to go. Most fans of the X-Men became fans in the 90's and making the first movie without Storm, Wolverine, Rogue, etc. would have been terrible. Leaving out 1 or 2, like Nightcrawler, and saving them down the line is one thing, but there's now way they'd do it for all of the post O5 X-Men.

The way you'd want to do it only remotely appeals to comic fans, when the aim of these movies is the opposite. They can't put all the popular X-Men there, but they do put the core base in there, all the time, and its more than just the O5.

Its ridiculous, with all the X-Men's history and storylines, to try and limit a whole movie by only using characters and concepts from the 60's. You really want to use KRAKOA for a movie when you have all that other stuff thats more relevant to the X-Men's concept? Just because thats how they did it back then? Makes no sense. The O5 provide little diversity, and only 1 female member. Considering we're talking about the X-Men here, that just flat out wouldn't fly,

Everytime they introduce the X-Men to a different medium, or reboot them for a modern audience, they NEVER go down that route. Look at the Ultimate line, the movies, and every cartoon they've ever had. There's a reason they don't do it that way. It only appeases a portion of comic fans.

You have to remember, from a studio's point of view, they will always assume that everyone has not seen TAS or any of the material. Some kids were probably just being born around that time. so the most likely scenarios is that they find a common ground for both newbies and fans. They may not go back to using the O5, but I think it's safe to say that they will have somewhat of an origins story, using either flashbacks, or a team comprised of an equal number of men & women... And the original Ultimate X-Men would be perfect....

Who knows...

[Frisky Dingo]

Only way I'd wanna see an X4 made is if Cyclops was in it.

Ditto. For one of the most important characters in the X-verse Cyclops got shafted pretty bad in the first two films in terms of screen time and character development. And jeez, don't even get me started on X-3.

[Slant]

That's why I was in agreement with Slant that if they did reboot, using the original Ultimate X-Men team would be the logical choice.

...But again, with so many characters, I'm affraid the effects will come out looking like an episode from Heroes... If that's the case, I'd rather keep my money, but if you guys are okay with that, more power to you.



You have to remember, from a studio's point of view, they will always assume that everyone has not seen TAS or any of the material. Some kids were probably just being born around that time. so the most likely scenarios is that they find a common ground for both newbies and fans. They may not go back to using the O5, but I think it's safe to say that they will have somewhat of an origins story, using either flashbacks, or a team comprised of an equal number of men & women... And the original Ultimate X-Men would be perfect....

Who knows...

I do think it'll be an origins story, but I also don't think that an origin story is as important to the X-Men as it is to most other superheros, due to the whole mutant thing. Its a nice bonus after 4 movies, but not necessary.

[Goshin]

I would much rather have Marvel Studios buy back the rights like they did Hulk, wait five years and reboot the franchise from scratch integrated into the cinema MU with the Avengers/Hulk/Cap/Nick Fury/Iron Man world with actual costumes. The first movie would be Xavier seeking out Kurt, Ororo, Peter etc to help save the original x-men from Magneto (krakoa would be too stupid for a movie). At least stick closer to the comic roots and get rid of the gay leather biker suits. It worked for Iron Man and the Incredible Hulk, let Marvel have the creative control so we won't end up with emo rogue, redneck gambit and gay british biker juggernaut again.

[ProfeZZor X]

I do think it'll be an origins story, but I also don't think that an origin story is as important to the X-Men as it is to most other superheros, due to the whole mutant thing. Its a nice bonus after 4 movies, but not necessary.

Always remember that inkling of society (both young and old) that have no idea what X-Men, or mutants are all about. That's also a target audience studios are after, which is why even in X3, Jean's origin and how Xavier/Magneto got started, is brought up so late in the franchise.... It's inevitable.

[Terry121]

If they plan to have some bad guy running around with a vial containing some cure/poison/serum thingy again then they can go and shove it.

[peopleofpaper]

I'd like them to do everything different. I think it'd be really cool if they did an X-men origins but did it set in the 60s and everything looked vintage. I know that wouldn't fit the timeline of the films but I think it'd be fun.

I'm a sucker for anything X-men though so I'll watch anything. Anything is better than nothing for me.

[peopleofpaper]

Jessica Lucas from that "Cloverfield" movie;

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She'd be an amazing M but not old or strong enough to be Storm. She's my dream MONET!

[ProfeZZor X]

She'd be an amazing M but not old or strong enough to be Storm. She's my dream MONET!

I was thinking of a young Storm... But M works too. I'd pay double the admission, just to see her in extra tight black spandex alone.