The Bat-Villains: How they should be

[Vakanai]

This thread is on the villains, or rather your opinions on them/how you want them to be. Should a villain be updated to better fit our times or updated to suck less? Should they go back to the way they used to be in a former era? Or are they just to terribly used or whatever to live and should be killed off?
So, which villains would you change, how, and why?

[nepenthes]

Bane - make him the dictator President of Santa Prisca, ruthless but with noble intentions, continuing his character portrayal from Secret Six. Philosophically views his nation as a prison he must control.

Killer Croc - revert him to a more humanoid appearance, restore his intelligence and leadership and make a him a mob boss again like he was shown in his first appearances.

There should be a three year moratorium on Two-Face. He's over used and inconsistent to the point where's he lost all impact. There also be fifteen year ban on storylines that involve fixing his face with plastic surgery. This has happened about 11 times now.

Penguin - take him out of overt mob warfare and back to more of a crooked business man with dirty connections that Dini was going for. That was good progression until Daniel/Winick aborted it in BotC.

[Infernorhythm]

The Scarecrow: Just use Cillian Murphy's version from Batman Begins. Intelligent, devious, and manipulative. It's straight out of the early appearances. Not some super lanky loon who gets taken out with one punch, but a psychological manipulative sadist.

The Joker: Batman #1, that is all. No jokes, hardly any laugther. A murderous, robbing jester who's smile is a big irony. Also, he's physically tough, fighting Batman to a standstill. He's scary, not funny.

[jgiannantoni05]

Killer Croc - revert him to a more humanoid appearance, restore his intelligence and leadership and make a him a mob boss again like he was shown in his first appearances.
Completely agree here, Croc used to be a great villain. Croc is unbearable to read now, thanks to Loeb and later writers.

Bane - I'd actually like to see him as Batman rogue again, and by that I mean, you know, trying to take down Batman and the batfam

Zsasz - Give him his blonde hair back for chrissakes.

Joker- no change at all, I like seeing the different "reinventions" of The Joker, sometimes he's Dini's cruel and funny showman, other times he's Morrison's German silent horror killer

Two-Face - no change I can think of

Scarecrow - make him more of a threat a little

Riddler - he better become a villain again

The Wrath II - use him more

Facade - use him again

[Volvic]

There's very few I'd actually overhall completely. Tweaking is fun though.

Joker - Less is more. You also don't need a stupidly high body count to be scary, make him a little more random; you should always be guessing if there's water in that lapel flower or acid.

Two-Face - Cut back on the constant attempts at reform and plastic surgery for a good long while.

Scarecrow - I don't mind him being taken out with one punch, but he should be devious, manipulative and it should be extremely difficult to get to make that punch.

Bane - No change.

Jane Doe - Revert her back to what she was like in Living Hell. She was more chilling that way.

Mr Freeze - Use him more.

Poison Ivy - Drop the "Mrs-Green-Giant" look, tone down her powers and the more femme fatal aspects of her personality. Maybe give her control of a couple of terrorist cells.

Riddler - No change. At least not for a while yet.

Harley Quinn - Lose the hat and the Joker obsession, but have it so that given her experiences behind the scenes in Joker-land, she should never be 'quite right'. She can go either way from there on in.

Killer Croc - Make him a little more human.

Wesker - Bring him back.

Great White Shark - Explore his Warren White origins a little more.

[ryerye17]

make the Joker funny

[Greg Anderson]

Wait, what's Killer Croc's current visual? Seems every time I see him in a new book, he looks different. I liked how he looked in the Joker trade. Though I loved his personality in The Batman.

[Nefarius]

Joker:I would prefer something like his appearence in Laughing Fish of DCAU Joker.Funny and random in his jokes,but also deadly and a sadistic sociopath.Also, i would love to see him back to his roots,as a deadly thief who kills and steal rich people not for profit but for sheer thrill.

Killer Croc:Combined the misanthropic animalistic Croc but give him enough IQ to be at least a small crime boss.

Penguin:Crook businessman and a smuggler.Keep him between legal business and crime activities but not full involve in Gotham's underworld scene.

Two-Face:No more stories that involve repairing his face and less usage.Like the Joker,i think Two-face is overused and needs a rest.

Great White Shark:I love the whole "crime boss behind bars" style.Let him stay a big player in city's underworld.

Hugo Strange:Use him more as a master manipulator.They could turned him easily into a DC's equivelant of Dr Faustus.

[RubberLotus]

The Scarecrow: Just use Cillian Murphy's version from Batman Begins. Intelligent, devious, and manipulative. It's straight out of the early appearances. Not some super lanky loon who gets taken out with one punch, but a psychological manipulative sadist.

The Joker: Batman #1, that is all. No jokes, hardly any laugther. A murderous, robbing jester who's smile is a big irony. Also, he's physically tough, fighting Batman to a standstill. He's scary, not funny.

Personally, I think that a Joker like that would be a bit generic; he'd be able to fit into ANYONE's rogues gallery. But hey, to each his own.

Mr. Freeze... personally, I think that the only storylines involving him should focus on him, instead of the heroes. It's real easy to slip back into the "Batman's version of Captain Cold" territory with this guy. No pointless cameos.

Two-Face: Just don't lump him in with all the other Bat-rogues. This guy is in a league of his own when it comes to where he stands on the "morality" bar.

That reminds me... someone should really do a one-shot depicting the first post-crisis meeting between Joker and Penguin (a la The Man Who Laughs).

[OverMaster]

That reminds me... someone should really do a one-shot depicting the first post-crisis meeting between Joker and Penguin (a la The Man Who Laughs).

IIRC, that happened in the Catwoman: Year Two arc of the first Catwoman ongoing.

[RubberLotus]

IIRC, that happened in the Catwoman: Year Two arc of the first Catwoman ongoing.

Okay then...

A post-crisis version of "The Joker's Comedy of Errors", perhaps?

[Sn4tcH]

IIRC, that happened in the Catwoman: Year Two arc of the first Catwoman ongoing.

I don't think it's ever said it's their first time meeting. It's just Two-Face, Joker, and Penguin trying to get an appeal.

[Brack360]

The Scarecrow should be very scary and intimidating, like he was depicted on The New Batman Adventures. He is supposed to be the master of fear and so should not have a silly, goofy appearance.

Killer Croc should be a more human-looking mob boss, similar to how he was in Broken City. He should not be a huge, animalistic alligator creature like in Hush.

Mr. Freeze should be more like the BTAS version and have a more simplistic suit, not the big blue power suit. His suit should not be powered by diamonds.

Talia needs to be consistent. It seems like each writer gives her a drastically different interpretation, from cold-hearted villain to rebellious hero to somewhere in between. I prefer her in the gray area, away from Luthor and the Secret Society of Super-Villains.

[The Fifth Horseman]

joker: i think the perfect joker for me would be a blend between the joker presented in the killing joke and the early joker appearnces in batman#1 and other early batman issues.

killer crock: im torn between having a huge monster rather like hush or having a man with slightly disfigured face like in his early appearnces. I'm just not sure which one i prefer?

[jgiannantoni05]

He should not be a huge, animalistic alligator creature like in Hush.
Yes. As I say it, he should not DC's version of the Spider-Man villain, The Lizard.

[Captain Jim]

Killer Croc - revert him to a more humanoid appearance, restore his intelligence and leadership and make a him a mob boss again like he was shown in his first appearances.


Wesker - Bring him back.

I completely agree with these two.

[Crimson Knightman]

Scarecrow: The far gas should be no longer in tact. The Scarecrow should be able to convey natural fear into the heart of anyone he sees fit. No artificial supplements.

Mad Hatter: I would make him more in sync with the way he was depicted in Batman the Animated Series. There would be more emphasis on his technical genius and how his weaponry is lethal on a sporadic scale. He would no longer affiliate with low fodder like Tweedledee and Tweedledum and the "Alice & Wonderland" gimmick would be played at a minimum.

Mr. Freeze: No longer solely centered on Nora, he would be the kind of threat that would test Batman on all levels. There would be more emphasis on his scientific mind and how he potentially places a good portion of the world at peril. I would characterize him as Batman's answer to Magneto.

Bane: He would return as the cold, calculating force he was during the Knightfall saga. I would have him be the one in charge of the transactions that occurs in the Gotham City underworld.

The Riddler: I don't care for the private eye angle because Batman should be the dominant one in deductive skills. I would have the Riddler be more in alignment with Lex Luthor, he would be a powerful entrepreneur that gives Wayne Enterprises a run for their money while challenging Batman in a multitude of ways via money and power.

Black Mask: Bring back the original version.

Ventriloquist: Bring back the original version.

[RubberLotus]

Scarecrow: The far gas should be no longer in tact. The Scarecrow should be able to convey natural fear into the heart of anyone he sees fit. No artificial supplements.

Mad Hatter: I would make him more in sync with the way he was depicted in Batman the Animated Series. There would be more emphasis on his technical genius and how his weaponry is lethal on a sporadic scale. He would no longer affiliate with low fodder like Tweedledee and Tweedledum and the "Alice & Wonderland" gimmick would be played at a minimum.

Mr. Freeze: No longer solely centered on Nora, he would be the kind of threat that would test Batman on all levels. There would be more emphasis on his scientific mind and how he potentially places a good portion of the world at peril. I would characterize him as Batman's answer to Magneto.

Bane: He would return as the cold, calculating force he was during the Knightfall saga. I would have him be the one in charge of the transactions that occurs in the Gotham City underworld.

The Riddler: I don't care for the private eye angle because Batman should be the dominant one in deductive skills. I would have the Riddler be more in alignment with Lex Luthor, he would be a powerful entrepreneur that gives Wayne Enterprises a run for their money while challenging Batman in a multitude of ways via money and power.

Black Mask: Bring back the original version.

Ventriloquist: Bring back the original version.

Personally, I've never found the DCAU Tetch to be all that impressive. Maybe it's just the fact that I've never been able to see Hatter as a sympathetic kind of character. IMO, not ALL of Batman's rogues have to be sympathetic.

I partially agree on Scarecrow, but I think that he should still keep the fear-inducing doohickeys as a last resort. Kind of hard to instill fear in Batman's heart with words alone when he's beating the crap out of you.

Like Two-Face, I don't particularly care for Freeze being made a recurring villain. If anything, he should be used like in the DCAU; two or three appearances at the very most.

[Sn4tcH]

The Joker: I really really like Morrisons whole concept of "super-sanity" so I hope it sticks, but I doubt it will.

Mad Hatter: He's been working with a lot of top notch villains lately, and I imagine they've paid him well. I hope he comes back with some sort of new gimmick or a new more powerful mind control.

Prometheus: Bring him back as an enforcer for a non-"freak" ran mob.

Killer Moth: Just bring him back!!!

Scarecrow: I really enjoyed Dini's story with him in 'Tec. I like the idea of Scarecrow actually being terrifying to the point of not needing the fear toxins anymore. The only issue is that it made him very Zsas like.

Poison Ivy: As much as I enjoy the Harley/Ivy dynamic, Ivy has a Swamp Thing level of power over plant life. She needs to show it more. Face the Face showed this, but we need to see it more.

Two-Face: He needs to hurt Bruce. Two-face, IMO has worked best when the friendship between him, Bruce, and Gordon is front and center. This hasn't been used in a while though, and we need to be reminded again.

Killer Croc: I actually like the monster design, but I wish he was smart again.

[riddler72]

Ok,my turn:

Killer Croc-Give him a genius level I.Q. and call him King Croc!Make him a reptilian mastermind,because DC could use a few!

Riddler-Get him in shape and give him some fighting skills,because I'm tired of seeing him get his behind handed on a silver platter!Imagine how dangerous he could be!

Penguin-As with Riddler,he needs to get into shape!Bulk up a bit,and lose some of the bird fat!

Dr.Phosphorus-Make him a deadlier foe in the traditon of Joker and Two-Face!

Scarecrow-See Penguin and Riddler!!!!

Killer Moth-Have a female play this part,one with excellent fighting skills,and who flirts with Batman and rivals Catwoman!

Crazy Quilt-See Killer Moth!Only,she has a thing for Robin!

[Zembo]

Clayface: He should be an actor's actor. You really don't (and even Batman doesn't) know who he will be at any time. All he has is shapeshifting, so he should be very, very good at it. He never "breaks character" unless he wants to do it, and when he does, he can make himself into all kinds of weird creepy stuff, imagination and nightmares given flesh. I'm basing this on the animated series, obviously.

Put Dini back on Batman to make new interesting villians. I second Facade.

[nicolereis]

The Joker: I really really like Morrisons whole concept of "super-sanity" so I hope it sticks, but I doubt it will.

Mad Hatter: He's been working with a lot of top notch villains lately, and I imagine they've paid him well. I hope he comes back with some sort of new gimmick or a new more powerful mind control.

Prometheus: Bring him back as an enforcer for a non-"freak" ran mob.

Killer Moth: Just bring him back!!!

Scarecrow: I really enjoyed Dini's story with him in 'Tec. I like the idea of Scarecrow actually being terrifying to the point of not needing the fear toxins anymore. The only issue is that it made him very Zsas like.

Poison Ivy: As much as I enjoy the Harley/Ivy dynamic, Ivy has a Swamp Thing level of power over plant life. She needs to show it more. Face the Face showed this, but we need to see it more.

Two-Face: He needs to hurt Bruce. Two-face, IMO has worked best when the friendship between him, Bruce, and Gordon is front and center. This hasn't been used in a while though, and we need to be reminded again.

Killer Croc: I actually like the monster design, but I wish he was smart again.

I totally agree with that. It's good for The Joker to be humorous, but in my opinion, not at the expense of his fright factor. One thing I think they need to do with The Joker more, and which I think Morrison accomplishes, is to show and utilize how intelligent he is, because it's his mind more then anything that makes him so frightening. And I like the super-sanity concept because it gives him a dynamic beyond being just a genius.

I also think The Riddler should be a little tougher physically and that Harley Quinn and The Joker should stay seperate. They work great together in the cartoon, not so much in the comic. Harley's a great character, and really could work as both a villainous and a good guy, but in order to pair her with Joker, you really have to tone The Joker down and make him not quite so menacing and scary, and to me, that's a big no, no.

[Sizzle]

Scarecrow - Make him the Scarecrow from Batman Arkham Aslyum video game, he's fantastic.

Bane - Put him back on Venom, just make it less addictive.

Reaper - Bring him back.

Bring back Wesker

[RubberLotus]

Speaking of bringing guys back, what about the original Tally Man?

He grew on me with that big-ass Joker-esque smile of his, top hat, and crazy contortionist stunts. Not to mention just what a fucked-up childhood he had.

[jgiannantoni05]

One thing I think they need to do with The Joker more, and which I think Morrison accomplishes, is to show and utilize how intelligent he is
Dini quite accomplished this very well in Detective 826 "Slayride." Joker nabs Tim, and turns up the heat in the car so as to keep Tim close to passing out. Joker leaves that toy car under the seat to give Tim a little hope, only before Joker snatches the hope away from him, admitting he put the car there to cause such false hope.

[Captain Jim]

Bring back Clayface III (as he was originally portrayed) and get rid of all the other Clayfaces.

[Retro315]

I think the twist to Riddler to bring him into modern times should be a full-on embracing of his entire look and style.

He dresses in sharp suits - in trendy colors. He walks around with a cane, and a bowler cap, which means he thinks he's "old school cool" like Gary Cooper or something. Fashionable, trendy - and with a name like Riddler where it's so effing obvious that the whole "Gotham Criminal Lifestyle" is a game he loves playing - he doesn't kill - he has women hanging on him. He's in it for the prestige.

Style. Ego. It's not a personal grudge style battle of wits with the Batman like with Joker or Two-Face, with Riddler, the battle of wits is what he's after to feed his own ego. Why does he always manage to ditch Arkham or prison? He's that damn smart, and that's part of the game, too. Batman wins a round. Next round.

To amp up Riddler in that way, they should play off of his slender frame and smarts - he's not muscle, for sure. He hires muscle. But he's the type of guy who could play the role of a grifter, a hacker, even a thief/burglar (albeit not as "climb a skyscraper with suction cups like Catwoman").

Morrison really explored the notion that the criminals of Gotham had a "Cultural Status", even going so far as to call the Gotham Rogues "Pop Criminals".

Riddler would be the King of Pop (Not the most dangerous, but definitely the most publicized, self-hyped, and able to navigate through the "Underground Culture" around town as well - the world of geeky computer hackers, art thieves and "glamorous crime". 100% self-aware of the sub-culture, the lifestyle, and the fact that he can't beat Batman physically so has to engineer situations to play out in his favor.

Like Ocean's Eleven, or the TV show Leverage.

I'd love to see Riddler put a crew together for a heist. Him as the Planner. Catwoman as the Thief. Calculator as the Hacker. There's ample muscle around Gotham, but you'd want somebody more versatile than a super-villain like Croc or Clayface.

I suppose to some extent, he did that in Hush. But the Hush storyline was painfully too serious about itself and including everything new and crazy - the Batman Kryptonite ring Superman fights, Catwoman romances, Riddler with nasty ulterior motives, Jason Todd reveal, every villain ever, and Hush himself being all vengeful.

Whatever happened to good old fashioned robbing people?

Anyway, that's why I DO love Riddler as a Private Eye. Because he wasn't some homicidal maniac killer back in the day, he was just a thief with a lot of flourish and flare for the dramatic who got infamous on an almost Jesse James/John Dillinger sort of level (only without the murder rap sheet).

[goat]

Scarecrow - The New Batman Adventures inspired. Make people actually afraid of him BEFORE he even uses the gas. Make him creepy, eerie, somebody you don't even want to mess with. He creates a haunting and evil vibe by just appearing in a room. Same costume as TNBA as well. If this were to happen, I would be proud to call him my favorite Bat villian again.

[nicolereis]

Dini quite accomplished this very well in Detective 826 "Slayride." Joker nabs Tim, and turns up the heat in the car so as to keep Tim close to passing out. Joker leaves that toy car under the seat to give Tim a little hope, only before Joker snatches the hope away from him, admitting he put the car there to cause such false hope.

That is a great story, to be sure. Great characterization too. The Joker should be funny, I just meant not at the expense of him being scary, which often happens I've noticed.

And Retro315, I really like that idea for The Riddler. He's suited to that role perfectly, actually.

[protege]

Ok,my turn:

Killer Croc-Give him a genius level I.Q. and call him King Croc!Make him a reptilian mastermind,because DC could use a few!

Riddler-Get him in shape and give him some fighting skills,because I'm tired of seeing him get his behind handed on a silver platter!Imagine how dangerous he could be!

Penguin-As with Riddler,he needs to get into shape!Bulk up a bit,and lose some of the bird fat!

Dr.Phosphorus-Make him a deadlier foe in the traditon of Joker and Two-Face!

Scarecrow-See Penguin and Riddler!!!!

Killer Moth-Have a female play this part,one with excellent fighting skills,and who flirts with Batman and rivals Catwoman!

Crazy Quilt-See Killer Moth!Only,she has a thing for Robin!

You know, I liked the Phosphorus from "The Batman" series.

[Sn4tcH]

Bring back Clayface III (as he was originally portrayed) and get rid of all the other Clayfaces.

The only thing is, I really REALLY like the Matt Hagen B:TAS version of Clayface. I think most people identify with that character as well. Karlo and Cassius are the closest we have to that.

We'll make a deal, keep Preston Payne, but get rid of Karlo and Fuller, and keep Cassius Payne. We have to keep one of the shape shifting dirt pile Clayfaces!

[OverMaster]

The only thing is, I really REALLY like the Matt Hagen B:TAS version of Clayface. I think most people identify with that character as well. Karlo and Cassius are the closest we have to that.

We'll make a deal, keep Preston Payne, but get rid of Karlo and Fuller, and keep Cassius Payne. We have to keep one of the shape shifting dirt pile Clayfaces!

I'd kill Cassius off (to add to Preston's tragedy) but keep Karlo instead. Karlo has an interesting quirk in that he is a thespian, a real conceited prima donna, and that blends well with the shapeshifting/identity usurpation angle.

[Sn4tcH]

I'd kill Cassius off (to add to Preston's tragedy) but keep Karlo instead. Karlo has an interesting quirk in that he is a thespian, a real conceited prima donna, and that blends well with the shapeshifting/identity usurpation angle.

I just don't like all the fire powers and junk with Karlo. For goodness sake, he can already shape shift, AND he has fire powers. He needs a nerf right away!

[Zembo]

Killer Croc is a toughy-keep him human-ish or beastly? I'd say more beastly, kind of the Urban Legend. You don't hire him, you catch him and just kind of aim him at people. Like a half-wild dog.

And I also support Retro315's Riddler. He knows people who knows people, but he's never quite caught or admitted to crime.

[RubberLotus]

Oh, and for either Ventriloquist: More writers need to start taking advantage of his/her namesake(s). A ventriloquist is supposed to be able to throw his voice anywhere he pleases, so that would make for some confusing fights if he's in a dark warehouse.

Arkham Asylum: Living Hell showcased this nicely, with Wesker/Scarface tricking Doodlebug into sacrificing Lunkhead using ventriloquism.

Come to think of it, pitch-perfect voice imitation wouldn't be too bad for Ventriloquist, either.

[Lew Moxon]

The Joker should not escape from Arkham with the sort of regularity he does currently, or rather the way he did under Wayne's tenure. However, Batman should still worry about him, and Joker should be an intimidating presence even in his confinement. When he does break out, expect mass panic, chaos and bodies pilling up like snowflakes in a snowstorm. This is not nesscarily to say he can't do more minor things, rather once he's out, it must be very difficult to put the genie back in the bottle. As for personality, Killing Joke and his original appearance. Bring back the Joker's masterful ability with disguise from that appearance. Make it so that the Joker can be anywhere, or anyone. (Within reason.) Of course, certain Hamill Joker flourishes do work well within the comics, so probably keep some of them, but in the main, make the Joker terrifying, to everyone besides himself, and possibly Harley. Rather than making the joker escapes a Gotham Headline along the lines of "Traffic Jam today" make it a rare and dreaded event.

[OverMaster]

Killer Croc is a toughy-keep him human-ish or beastly? I'd say more beastly, kind of the Urban Legend. You don't hire him, you catch him and just kind of aim him at people. Like a half-wild dog.


I'd make him a combo of the brains of the Pre Crisis version with the beastlike appearance and inhuman strenght of the recent mutated version.

[Retro315]

I'd make him a combo of the brains of the Pre Crisis version with the beastlike appearance and inhuman strenght of the recent mutated version.

I'm so torn about Croc. Because the whole "urban legend sewer crocodile" angle works so perfectly for his modern incarnation as a big, crocodile monster. But from a story standpoint, talking about Batman versus the strangest criminals in the world, I like the circus freak sideshow presented by The Animated Series best.

I wish there was a way we could have both.

And just on the case of Riddler again - I think it works to have him actually able to outsmart Batman from time to time - as a trade-off to not killing people. He gets away with some priceless art or something ... but Batman doesn't sweat it as bad as if it was a murder like Joker or Two-Face - it just annoys him really bad, is all.

[OverMaster]

And just on the case of Riddler again - I think it works to have him actually able to outsmart Batman from time to time - as a trade-off to not killing people. He gets away with some priceless art or something ... but Batman doesn't sweat it as bad as if it was a murder like Joker or Two-Face - it just annoys him really bad, is all.

Sounds like you'd like the 'Riddle me This' arc of LOTDK. Have you read it?

[Retro315]

Sounds like you'd like the 'Riddle me This' arc of LOTDK. Have you read it?

No I haven't, but I can't imagine I'm the first person to think of Riddler being capable of earning his reputation rather than being some scrawny, pathetic, crippled-by-his-OCD geek of a villain. I'll definitely look it up.

I don't know why I didn't mention it before, and not to beat a dead horse here ... but I forgot to suggest that Riddler would be a pretty kick-ass candidate for having "Escape Artist" as one of his skills. Maybe not as unbelievable as Harry Houdinis like Batman or Mister Miracle or Master Jailer (especially under pressure - like in a death-trap) but able to get out of cuffs or a straight-jacket, and then out of a locked room, definitely.

And the alternate costumes work nicely - the suit for doing business, meeting contacts, showing up at social clubs to flaunt his infamy to the cops who have "nothing on him" at the time.

The green spandex jumpsuit for creeping through ducts, and burglary (classic get-up for that sort of job).

[Vigilante Man]

Joker should be more like the Steve Englehart version.

[matthewaos]

I would stop Ventriloquist be a magic doll.

[OverMaster]

I would stop Ventriloquist be a magic doll.

Agree. It's actually much creepier when you are fully sure it isn't the dummy's fault, but it's mild and gentle Wesker who is screwed up in the head enough to perform all those horrible acts of bastardry.

[riddler72]

Have Catwoman wear swashbuckling boots again!

[Lew Moxon]

Clayface done right is complete paranoia fuel.

[DetectiveDupin]

Joker: Is fine as he is, but I prefer him not caring about Harley like Dini's version.

Two-face: As numerous people have said, stop with the fixing his face notion. I'd also use him more sparingly, like the Joker.

Riddler: Make him a villain again. The private eye angle is just annoying IMO.

Bane: I actually don't want to see Bane at all. If he has to be there, have him on venom again.

Scarecrow: I want him to be written as someone genuinely disturbing. Like have him get off on people's fears or something.

[Protoman]

I'm pretty tired of Two-Face and his inconsistency, want him to go away for a long time

The Riddler's pretty awesome right now, hope he stays the same

[Shush]

Keep Bane the way he's written in secret six.

Bring back KGBeast, the one Two face killed was a lowly imposter and would never have died to someone like Dent.

Eventually remove Elliot's Bruce Wayne facejob, but keep him the way Dini is writing him.

Remove ALL ties between the Joker and Harley. Currently the Joker is a mass murderer with too many dark moments where Harley is written too much like her Btas counterpart. Either change Harley's character or keep her as her own character without her Mr J puddin' moments.