If not Stark or Osborn, then who?

[Ryan W]

When all of this 'Dark Reign' business is said and done, it's more than likely that neither Stark nor Osborn will be in control of a global peace-keeping agency or the 50 State Initiative.

With this in mind, who should be put in place as Director of whatever agency comes up next?


Nick Fury?
He's got the chops, obviously, but would the President or anyone else trust him again--and would he even want the job?

Sharon Carter?
She was interim Director of SHIELD for a while and did a fine job, but with everything that's happened to her recently is she really cut out for a long-term position such as this?

Steve Rogers?
Perhaps his place in the new Marvel Universe isn't as Captain America, but as the new Nick-Furyesque character watching over all of the heroes?

Henry Peter Gyrich?
He's dealt with super-powered people for years and has often had positions of power, but are his temper and a negative attitude towards most things superhuman really a good fit?

Jimmy Woo?
Is the leader of ATLAS ready to step into the lime-light and take his place alongside the mainstream Marvel heroes?

Natasha Romanov?
Is the Black Widow better suited for military stratagem than espionage, or is she more of a loner than a leader?

. . . Someone else?
Carol Danvers? Baron Zemo? Dum-Dum Dugan? James Rhodes? Elektra Natchios? Who would be your ideal candidate and why?

[o1pickleboy]

U S Agent. the perfect government lackey.

[Syrant]

Damn, this is a hard one.

I just throw in Ms. Victoria Hand. I've been hoping there's more to her.

[Fatguy]

Steve Rodgers is an interesting idea.

It'll end up being Nick Fury eventually, though.

[Jmacq1]

Steve Rogers as the head of SHIELD/What-have-you is something fans have rumbled about for years.

Personally I like the idea simply because it gives Steve a very up-front and meaningful role in the Marvel Universe, while still allowing Bucky to Captain America for a while longer.

[Drdmx]

Steve is an interesting idea indeed.

Whats current events like for Agent Brand or Agent Hill?

[XPac]

I think Nick Fury is the best choice.

Steve is a guy that I would trust to run things. But honestly, I Do think sometimes the world functions better when you a guy that's willing to cross certain lines to get the job done. Cap won't do that... and I respect the hell out of him because of it. But I can't help but think a guy that Nick Fury will ultimately serve the greater good a little bit better.

[Jmacq1]

I think Nick Fury is the best choice.

Steve is a guy that I would trust to run things. But honestly, I Do think sometimes the world functions better when you a guy that's willing to cross certain lines to get the job done. Cap won't do that... and I respect the hell out of him because of it. But I can't help but think a guy that Nick Fury will ultimately serve the greater good a little bit better.

Well, I think it'd work best if SHIELD and the Initiative were broken into separate implements. You put Steve at the head of the Initiative and let SHIELD (and maybe the Shadow Initiative/Thunderbolts) do the covert ops and "dirty" stuff and let Fury head that up.

[XPac]

Well, I think it'd work best if SHIELD and the Initiative were broken into separate implements. You put Steve at the head of the Initiative and let SHIELD (and maybe the Shadow Initiative/Thunderbolts) do the covert ops and "dirty" stuff and let Fury head that up.

That's a good point.

I think Steve in theory could run the Initiaive just fine. Training metahumans and preparing them to be heroes is probably something Cap would be very good at. Caps not a spy, but he's a great superhero. And the Iniative in theory should be more about one than the other.

If we're talking purely the Iniative, I think the best person might be Xavier. He probably has more experience training people to become heroes than anyone. It's just that he tends to focus exclusively on mutants.

[CyberCoyote]

Going with Steve. At first I thought that he'd be too sidetracked by his own agendas and adventures, then I realized this is the Marvel Universe so any character can appear in as many places as Madrox without so much of as an eyebrow raise :)

No one can command more respect than Cap.

[docholliday504]

I think Reed RIchards should be a selection.

But overall I guess I think Nick Fury should do it. He's the most brilliant tactical mind in the MArvel Universe. We need a non-costume to keep all the fruity costumes in line.

[BigMike20X6]

Irving Forbush

[durty dee]

It should be Tony Stark again.

[Monty_Cristo]

Victoria for the win. i like her as a new thorn in the heroes side. Gyrich can be her # 2.

[gforguava]

Zemo, preferably after kicking the ever living crap out of Osborn.

[Monty_Cristo]

Zemo, preferably after kicking the ever living crap out of Osborn.

that would be a public relations nightmare.

[gforguava]

that would be a public relations nightmare. Of course it would, but a man can dream. :biggrin:

[XPac]

that would be a public relations nightmare.

He could always just pretend to be Citizen V again.

They fall for that everytime.

[Monty_Cristo]

He could always just pretend to be Citizen V again.

They fall for that everytime.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice,.....Dark Reign.

[Trey]

Going with Steve. At first I thought that he'd be too sidetracked by his own agendas and adventures, then I realized this is the Marvel Universe so any character can appear in as many places as Madrox without so much of as an eyebrow raise :)

No one can command more respect than Cap.

That's my vote too.

Or just simply dismantle the organization and return the heroes to thier secret identity/vigilante roots. I don't really enjoy stories with heroes working for the military/government.

[jackolover]

The old Cube's, The Warden. Read this CW YA/Runaways mini and see what this guy is like. If Hill had disappeared during CW, I could see Warden taking over, no trouble. The government wouldn't mess around. Gyrich is on the outer, and the Warden has some serious versatility, and who has no love for super humans, but can manipulate them very nicely indeed.

[Monty_Cristo]

on another note, the original Human Torch is back. it only makes sense that he should take over administrative duties at Camp Hammond; offering training to young heroes who want it. Falcon can be one of his trainers. who better to get these kids into fighting trim than ol' Uncle Sam?

[Omega Alpha]

No one. I think some time at least without government interference would be nice.

[Jason Abbadon]

Bucky should lead a new SHIELD- he has the experience with the spy biz and dirty tricks.

Cap should lead the 50 state Initiave.

Iron Man should lead the Avengers US operations and Pym could handle global ops (most bad stuff happens in the US in the MU).


Or....

Rick Mason should lead a new SHIELD with carol Danvers and Maria Hill as sub-directors.
Because Rick Mason kicks major bootie.

[worstblogever]

Who could multi-task something like this? Hmm...

I'll go for Vision, to give everyone that "big-brother" feeling.

[monkeypie]

I reckon it might be rhodey. Didn't Brevort say in his blog that they were cancelling the War Machine series only because there were big plans afoot for Rhodey? I cant think of anything bigger, and i hope hes not just gonna end up pretending to be Iron Man again.

[XPac]

Who could multi-task something like this? Hmm...

I'll go for Vision, to give everyone that "big-brother" feeling.

Given the fact that the old Vision pulled the big brother trick in the past, and given that the current one had Kangs brain pattern, I doubt that idea would get too much support.

[Drdmx]

Given the fact that the old Vision pulled the big brother trick in the past, and given that the current one had Kangs brain pattern, I doubt that idea would get too much support.

I seem to remember him talking about being put in a position of power before... I believe it was when they were trying to decide on leadership for the Avengers Roster after Heroes Reborn. He had reservations because he had been posessed by.... Isaac(?) I believe.... So yeah, I've thought about him running things before, but he probably wouldnt work.

[Hrist]

I think Nick Fury is the best choice.

Steve is a guy that I would trust to run things. But honestly, I Do think sometimes the world functions better when you a guy that's willing to cross certain lines to get the job done. Cap won't do that... and I respect the hell out of him because of it. But I can't help but think a guy that Nick Fury will ultimately serve the greater good a little bit better.

That's kind of why I want to see Steve in the job for a while-- it wouldn't be right for him, but it would an illuminating character experience.

[Goshin]

Shortpack!

[spiderman_rj]

Peter Parker, is the only choice " with great power comes great responsabilities"
nuff said

[rbcsecruoser]

Peter Parker, is the only choice " with great power comes great responsabilities"
nuff said

Oh no, The Parker Luck would end the world!

[Zero Hunter]

No one. I think some time at least without government interference would be nice.

I agree with this. No SHIELD. No HAMMER. No SWORD. Nothing. I think the world powers should look at just how easily a nutcase like Osborn has been able to basically became the real power in America beacuse of having the high tech personal army at his hands with what seems like absoluty no oversight. They should not restart anything until a time they can get more controls in place.

Plus SHIELD and HAMMER are just so overused anymore I am tired of seeing them.

[Maestro]

why would Steve Rogers want be in charge? wasn't he, I don't know, sorta OPPOSED to the idea of registration??

[Brother Justin Crowe]

William "Husker" Adama.

[XPac]

why would Steve Rogers want be in charge? wasn't he, I don't know, sorta OPPOSED to the idea of registration??

He was oppossed to forced registration.

But I suppose if they tossed out the SHRA and made the whole thing optional, he'd be willing to run the thing.

I don't think he has a problem exactly with heroes working with or even for government (he does all the time). It's just the notion of it being mandetory.

[Ryan W]

If he could restructure it his way and delegate his way, you just know Steve would be willing to do it.

@Monty: "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice . . . Dark Reign." might have to be the new quote in my signature if you approve. :cool:

[Jason Abbadon]

I reckon it might be rhodey. Didn't Brevort say in his blog that they were cancelling the War Machine series only because there were big plans afoot for Rhodey? I cant think of anything bigger, and i hope hes not just gonna end up pretending to be Iron Man again.
Hey now- that's not bad. Rhodey could lead a SHIELD kinda organization- particularly knowing what everyone's body count is and proceeding from there, instead of waiting for something to happen and then reacting to it (SHIELD's major failure was this defensive attitude).

[spiderwire]

I think it's about time for a mutant to lead the ihitiative. Cyclops is a natural leader besides think of all the subplots. What will happen to the X-Men? How will he be recieved by the general public? How would HYDRA, AIM, or the Hand react? What would he do with the "dark" teams? Emma Frost? Vulcan returning to Earth? Professor X, Magneto, or even Sinister? All that and a bag of buffalo wing chips!

[spiderwire]

I think it's about time for a mutant to lead the ihitiative. Cyclops is a natural leader besides think of all the subplots. What will happen to the X-Men? How will he be recieved by the general public? How would HYDRA, AIM, or the Hand react? What would he do with the "dark" teams? Emma Frost? Vulcan returning to Earth? Professor X, Magneto, or even Sinister? All that and a bag of buffalo wing chips!

[Illmatik]

I think it's about time for a mutant to lead the ihitiative. Cyclops is a natural leader besides think of all the subplots. What will happen to the X-Men? How will he be recieved by the general public? How would HYDRA, AIM, or the Hand react? What would he do with the "dark" teams? Emma Frost? Vulcan returning to Earth? Professor X, Magneto, or even Sinister? All that and a bag of buffalo wing chips!

I agree, I would love to see Cyclops in a bigger role in the MU. It would definitely take the X-Men to a much-needed different direction

[Weapon Ick]

Quick question: Where has Gyrich been during Dark Reign? Last I had seen him was when Stark forced him in to retirement. Seems like he would have a position waiting for him in Osborne's cabinet.

[That Random Guy]

Quick question: Where has Gyrich been during Dark Reign? Last I had seen him was when Stark forced him in to retirement. Seems like he would have a position waiting for him in Osborne's cabinet.

Not sure where he has been but he will be in the new S.W.O.R.D series.

[Mister Mets]

Steve Rogers or J Jonah Jameson, depending on whether you want it to be a good thing for the superheroes.

[Omega Alpha]

I think it's about time for a mutant to lead the ihitiative. Cyclops is a natural leader besides think of all the subplots. What will happen to the X-Men? How will he be recieved by the general public? How would HYDRA, AIM, or the Hand react? What would he do with the "dark" teams? Emma Frost? Vulcan returning to Earth? Professor X, Magneto, or even Sinister? All that and a bag of buffalo wing chips!

I honestly don't see Cyclops interested. If anything, recent years have shown him that working with governments never works.

[mikekerr3]

Steve Rogers or J Jonah Jameson, depending on whether you want it to be a good thing for the superheroes.

JJJ would actually be a better choice than most of the others, he at least is an honest loon, who would try to do the right thing.

[passenger]

Steve Rogers,for the reasons cited by previous posters and because he would be the Initiative's conscience and moral compass,like he was for the Avengers.

[BigMike20X6]

Obnoxio the Clown. He's due a comeback, and why not in a position of power?

http://i33.tinypic.com/25z1pvl.jpg

[4sake]

Warbird
War Machine
Jimmy Woo
Steve Rogers

[Sandy Hausler]

why would Steve Rogers want be in charge? wasn't he, I don't know, sorta OPPOSED to the idea of registration??

Exactly. The people who want Bucky to remain being Captain America think that is a position they can shunt Steve off to. But that dog won't hunt.

Sandy Hausler

[Sandy Hausler]

Not sure where he has been but he will be in the new S.W.O.R.D series.

There's a new S.W.O.R.D. series? Bleh.

Sandy Hausler

[Sandy Hausler]

JJJ would actually be a better choice than most of the others, he at least is an honest loon, who would try to do the right thing.

Uh, when has he been honest. Lying weasel and a coward as well. Makes me miss Guilianni.

Sandy Hausler

[Nefarius]

No more SHIELD.As an organisation it failed miserably and turned into a tool for a nutjob like Osborn.Besides,bringing back Fury as Director of SHIELD would be restoring pre-Secret War status quo.But if they want to retain SHIELD,Steve Rogers would be great humanising from the inside the whole SHRA.

[Monty_Cristo]

JJJ would actually be a better choice than most of the others, he at least is an honest loon, who would try to do the right thing.

like create the Scorpion?

[Zembo]

Agent Brand. She can be a bit of a bastard, which you need, and she has powers so she can sympathize with the heroes. Her or Gyrich. You need someone who will be a hard-ass. He's a jerk, but a hardworking guy. No one who is a hero should be allowed, that would be a conflict of interest. The government should step in if needed where the capes can't police themselves.

[Moose967]

Steve Rogers wouldn't take the role because he is a soldier who belongs on the front lines. Bucky will be Cap for probably one more arc....maybe....people need to just accept the fact that Bucky was always a temporary replacement.

[Ryan W]

With his experience, Steve needs to step up from being a soldier and be the general he was meant to be.

[nuclearman]

I'd like to see nick fury get back in charge.

[Blind pugh]

I'm onboard with the Zemo proposal, he'll cross the lines people want Fury for, he's outwitted the Grandmaster so he's pretty smart & he'd help remind Marvel that the U.S president doesn't have sole power to choose the leadership of an international initiative.

[Whitster]

he'd help remind Marvel that the U.S president doesn't have sole power to choose the leadership of an international initiative.

Based on this reasoning I vote Pete Wisdom, he has the espionage experiance and doesn't consider himself a "cape" so no real conflict of interests there, also his willing to cross the lines needed running an agency like this.

HAMMERs a US only agency though right?

[Blind pugh]

HAMMERs a US only agency though right?
So far as I know H.A.M.M.E.R is but iirc it was the u.s pres that installed Stark as head of S.H.I.E.L.D, & on that note why no mention anywhere of the rest of the U.N contesting the S.H.I.E.L.D assets H.A.M.M.E.R's taken?

God those acronyms were tedious to type:smile:

[Slumber Hulk]

I was tempted to say Steve but Fury needs back in!

[CrimsonComedian]

Hellion of the x-men.

[Iron Theurge]

Zemo, preferably after kicking the ever living crap out of Osborn.

Second this opinion.

[Zembo]

Second this opinion.

And then things would be diffirent how? Still bad guy in charge. And he started the Thunderbolts, so it's not like he'd disband them. Hell, things would be worse cause he's not whacko.

[InSovietRussia]

Galactus, or failing that, Deadpool. Imagine the crazy hijinks that would ensue! :biggrin:

[tfresca]

Zemo really isn't a ad guy anymore. After Born Better, a good mini, he seemed intent on redeeming himself.

[almozayaf]

what about deadpool

[Tim Whitt]

I second Pete Wisdom.

Reed Richard's would be another good choice. Oh and what about Amadeus Cho hahaha.

[Zero Hunter]

So far as I know H.A.M.M.E.R is but iirc it was the u.s pres that installed Stark as head of S.H.I.E.L.D, & on that note why no mention anywhere of the rest of the U.N contesting the S.H.I.E.L.D assets H.A.M.M.E.R's taken?

God those acronyms were tedious to type:smile:

Thats what has been driving me nuts about SHIELD for years now. Alot of current writers just act as if it is a just a branch of the US government like the CIA or FBI and totaly under their control. It was created by the UN not the US.

[IllegalPAP]

I say WOO, just because then we'd have an AOA series again.

[Blind pugh]

Thats what has been driving me nuts about SHIELD for years now. Alot of current writers just act as if it is a just a branch of the US government like the CIA or FBI and totaly under their control. It was created by the UN not the US.
I honestly thought I'd imagined that fact for awhile thank god the Knauffs at least remembered it.

[Zero Hunter]

I think Marvel missed a great chance to show what the rest of the world thought about Osborn and his plans during this year of Dark Reign. It would have been cool to see countries like England and Canada and the like reacting to HAMMER and such.

[Blind pugh]

I think Marvel missed a great chance to show what the rest of the world thought about Osborn and his plans during this year of Dark Reign. It would have been cool to see countries like England and Canada and the like reacting to HAMMER and such.
Couldn't agree more, we know lots of villains went North when registration was enacted did they start to return to the U.S once news about Osborn got out. How does their government feel about losing Weapon Omega etc.
lots of potential just from Canada.

[Zero Hunter]

Especially after everything that went down with Secret Invasion. It would have been a perfect time for a new Alpha Flight team.

[Minerboh]

I Have a feeling that Dr Doom's going to take charge of things. The follow up of Dark Reign is called ''the siege'' after all!

[Blind pugh]

Especially after everything that went down with Secret Invasion. It would have been a perfect time for a new Alpha Flight team.
It's always a good time for Alpha Flight!

[Avenger08]

I see only three possibilities.

Either Nick Fury, but i very much doubt that. However, everything was working for a while whilst he was in charge

Steve Rogers- Honestly, i kinda hope so. He comes back, redefines the initiative and makes everything better again.

Natalia Romanova- When she lead SHIELD for like half an hour, she was the most crazy good badass leader there could possibly be. She def has what it takes

[DamonO]

James Rhodes

[matthewaos]

I see only three possibilities.

Either Nick Fury, but i very much doubt that. However, everything was working for a while whilst he was in charge

Steve Rogers- Honestly, i kinda hope so. He comes back, redefines the initiative and makes everything better again.

Natalia Romanova- When she lead SHIELD for like half an hour, she was the most crazy good badass leader there could possibly be. She def has what it takes

I'm not sure they will let a russian to take over SHIELD

[JurassicParkIsAnAwesomeMovie]

I want Nick Fury back as Director of SHIELD, but Steve Rogers would be cool, and that means that Bucky can still be Cap.

[Sabrinaset]

The follow up of Dark Reign is called ''the siege'' after all!

Whoa, whoa, whoa ... I must have missed that! Links?

[Sabrinaset]

Hmm ... I just looked it up and all I get is references to "The Siege of Asgard" .... I dunno that SHIELD is gonna play a big part in that!

[matthewaos]

http://marvel.com/catalog/?id=13501

Sowhere it says (maybe not in this link) that it's an event six years in the making.

[mikekerr3]

like create the Scorpion?

Even that's a step up from Osborn or Hill, he's a nut job but unlike the other two he is not malignantly evil

[mikekerr3]

With his experience, Steve needs to step up from being a soldier and be the general he was meant to be.

There a long gap experience between being the soldier and front line leader that Cap has always been and the skills needed to be a general.

[mikekerr3]

I'm not sure they will let a russian to take over SHIELD

Since Shield has always been UN, why not? The UN is far more likely to let a Russian run an agency that an American

[matthewaos]

Since Shield has always been UN, why not? The UN is far more likely to let a Russian run an agency that an American

Yeah, but it's a comic book company based on the USA. During the cold war the russians were "bad communists", where in the real world both sides did their "bad" things.
And I was also reading an article somewhere (not comic related site) about Bucky, when he became cap. The article was refering to his brainwashed by russians days as "back when Russians were evil".

But either way, I would love to see her in that position.