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brettc1
09-17-2009, 04:48 AM
If Athena is really dead...why is Diana not blind?

If Athena needed someone to wake Hippolyta on the night of Diana's birth...why not send her owl?

Why was Ares not in purple spandex? [apart from the obvious reason...see below]

In the future Athena talked about...who wrote the word Freedom beside the dead heroes?

Why was the Ichor ship that crashed on the Khund homeworld looking damaged?

Why would Ares send a champion into the past if he has already won in the future?

Why would Cheetah rescue Psycho's body from the DMA if Psycho were already running the place in Steele's body?

Why did Ares not defend himself? :wink:

How does Zeus have the power to raise the dead?

If Diana were killed in the future, what became of her lasso?


One reason Ares might have not been in purple...

http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo37/brettc1_photos/Wonder%20Art/WW31EMERGENCY.jpg

I just want to point out too that these are not complaints - just things I keep in mind as the mystery unfolds.

BnL
09-17-2009, 04:57 AM
If Athena is really dead...why is Diana not blind?

Wonder Woman's powers don't work like that. Once granted, she has them forever. When Hermes died at the end of Perez's run, Diana still had his gifts of flight and speed.

brettc1
09-17-2009, 05:00 AM
Wonder Woman's powers don't work like that. Once granted, she has them forever. When Hermes died at the end of Perez's run, Diana still had his gifts of flight and speed.

True, and I thought of that, but that is a gift that was granted her at birth. Athena's exact words are "I now bind my sight to yours." Which is not quite the same.

BnL
09-17-2009, 05:52 AM
Hmm, good point. I guess we'll have to wait and see. I never thought Athena was really dead anyway. :wink:

nightforce
09-17-2009, 11:08 AM
Maybe because that was Greg's working of the character and part of his story. That is the thing fans have to realize.

Brettc, in your story "Better Angels" did you incorporate EVERY writers version of Wonder Woman? Or just the bits you liked from every one of them and put a litle stamp of her of yourself to make it your own?

brettc1
09-17-2009, 02:48 PM
Maybe because that was Greg's working of the character and part of his story. That is the thing fans have to realize.

Brettc, in your story "Better Angels" did you incorporate EVERY writers version of Wonder Woman? Or just the bits you liked from every one of them and put a litle stamp of her of yourself to make it your own?

Well, that is true. Although barring events which occured in the actual book after I had written something, I took pains to avoid contradicting any fact established since the Perez reboot. Even so far as to mentioning Diana's different tactile perceptions in human form, which is something Gail established but I dont wholly agree with. :wink:

But Gail could well be using Greg's writing as well. There is nothing to contradict what he established, except maybe for Zeus ability to raise the dead. But again, that might be a clue in itself, since Ares is Lord of the Underworld even several issues into the relaunch.

Gail Simone
09-17-2009, 05:05 PM
Brett, always a pleasure to see you here, mister!

Let's see...some of these I can't answer yet for spoiler reasons.

* If Athena is really dead...why is Diana not blind?

I interpret that a little differently.



* If Athena needed someone to wake Hippolyta on the night of Diana's birth...why not send her owl?

Athena's clever, and mythologically speaking, the owl was simply her most COMMON avatar. Some of the 'experts' out there have missed something...she DID occasionally use an eagle as her avatar. It's not just Zeus.



* Why was Ares not in purple spandex? [apart from the obvious reason...see below]

Ares went free another way. We'll be telling the Ichor part of the story just a couple issues from now.


* In the future Athena talked about...who wrote the word Freedom beside the dead heroes?

Could have been anyone...I prefer the idea of a nameless freedom fighter, actually.



* Why was the Ichor ship that crashed on the Khund homeworld looking damaged?

That's what happens when you mess with Gods!



* Why would Ares send a champion into the past if he has already won in the future?

Can't say on this one yet. Lots more interesting Ares stuff coming as soon as issue 37.


* Why would Cheetah rescue Psycho's body from the DMA if Psycho were already running the place in Steele's body?

Because Psycho (as Steel) WANTED his original body, for safekeeping. He knew the jig was nearly up at DMA.


* Why did Ares not defend himself?

Was busy monologuing. Nah, the truth is, there's a central story point there. Ares is used to being able to manipulate Diana a little bit, as many of the gods felt they were, as well. But if you read the whole story in a row, you'll see that Diana was in no mood for talk after all the evil she'd seen at his hands.




* How does Zeus have the power to raise the dead?

Well, we're not absolutely positive that he did.

* If Diana were killed in the future, what became of her lasso?

I would assume that Ares would have kept it, or Genocide wouldn't have so craved it.

brettc1
09-18-2009, 05:25 AM
Brett, always a pleasure to see you here, mister!

Heh :smile:

Let's see...some of these I can't answer yet for spoiler reasons.

* If Athena is really dead...why is Diana not blind?

I interpret that a little differently.

Fair enough :)


* If Athena needed someone to wake Hippolyta on the night of Diana's birth...why not send her owl?

Athena's clever, and mythologically speaking, the owl was simply her most COMMON avatar. Some of the 'experts' out there have missed something...she DID occasionally use an eagle as her avatar. It's not just Zeus.

Ah, a mistake on my part. Excellent. I've learned something :tongue:


* Why was Ares not in purple spandex? [apart from the obvious reason...see below]

Ares went free another way. We'll be telling the Ichor part of the story just a couple issues from now.


* In the future Athena talked about...who wrote the word Freedom beside the dead heroes?

Could have been anyone...I prefer the idea of a nameless freedom fighter, actually.

Which is interesting, because it means that the fight is not over and done as Athena seems to imply. Maybe this be part of why Genocide was sent into the past in the first place. Who could be inspiring such idealism in the face of Ares domination...:rolleyes:


* Why was the Ichor ship that crashed on the Khund homeworld looking damaged?

That's what happens when you mess with Gods!

Indeed?



* Why would Ares send a champion into the past if he has already won in the future?

Can't say on this one yet. Lots more interesting Ares stuff coming as soon as issue 37.

:smile:


* Why would Cheetah rescue Psycho's body from the DMA if Psycho were already running the place in Steele's body?

Because Psycho (as Steel) WANTED his original body, for safekeeping. He knew the jig was nearly up at DMA.

Which still leaves me wondering what he was doing there all that time, apart from making life hard for Diana. And I cant wait to find out what the little creep does with his knowledge about Diana and Tom's relationship


* Why did Ares not defend himself?

[I]Was busy monologuing. Nah, the truth is, there's a central story point there. Ares is used to being able to manipulate Diana a little bit, as many of the gods felt they were, as well. But if you read the whole story in a row, you'll see that Diana was in no mood for talk after all the evil she'd seen at his hands.

That much is plain - some of what Ares said about winning when and where he said he would win remains in my mind. Vain glorious boasting, or a crytic clue...

* How does Zeus have the power to raise the dead?

Well, we're not absolutely positive that he did.

Hmmm,

* If Diana were killed in the future, what became of her lasso?

I would assume that Ares would have kept it, or Genocide wouldn't have so craved it.

Ah, I try not to assume. Maybe Genocide didn't have it because Ares doesn't either. I guess I'll find out eventually

Tyr
09-19-2009, 03:26 AM
Hmm, good point. I guess we'll have to wait and see. I never thought Athena was really dead anyway. :wink:

She's not! and we never actually saw the body!

brettc1
10-03-2009, 05:59 AM
And of course now we have pregnant Amazons.

Something to do with Alkyone's whittle baby. I guess we will learn soon enough.

I am also intrigued by Alkyone's not wanting physical congress with Achilles. That could just be what it seems, but it might also be because she is already with child, as per her line about becoming Genocide's mother.

And where is Genocide?

And what is the US doing about the Olympians. A fleet of warships parked off Themycira for months while the Amazons did not much, and yet as far as we have seen Thalarion remains unmonitored.

Three thoughts for the next battleship that tangles with those pesky Argonauts...

Carrier support.

Carrier support.

Carrier support.

:wink:

nightforce
10-03-2009, 09:59 AM
Well, that is true. Although barring events which occured in the actual book after I had written something, I took pains to avoid contradicting any fact established since the Perez reboot. Even so far as to mentioning Diana's different tactile perceptions in human form, which is something Gail established but I dont wholly agree with. :wink:

But Gail could well be using Greg's writing as well. There is nothing to contradict what he established, except maybe for Zeus ability to raise the dead. But again, that might be a clue in itself, since Ares is Lord of the Underworld even several issues into the relaunch.

I get what you are saying. I did read some of "Better Angels". I like it. :smile:

I understand that a nearly 70 year character it is hard for every writer to make his or her own story and put a stamp on it, especially if they have to carry the burden of a past writer. I go with the flow.

Question, how long did Diana's eyes stay Gray?

Pixie_Solanas
10-03-2009, 10:53 AM
She's a warrior goddess, but needs flat boots for orthopedic support?

Stanlos
10-03-2009, 11:06 AM
Wonder Woman's powers don't work like that. Once granted, she has them forever. When Hermes died at the end of Perez's run, Diana still had his gifts of flight and speed.

BUT Rucka's take during his run was that the death of Lord Hermes did diminish her gifts of flight and speed. I thought this was fascinating.

troy2g1
10-03-2009, 12:20 PM
BUT Rucka's take during his run was that the death of Lord Hermes did diminish her gifts of flight and speed. I thought this was fascinating.

Which makes sense considering the Byrne retcon of her power loss during his run.

Not to mention that Wonder Woman's powers were always tied to the Gods -- it wasn't until the end of Rucka's run that the God's 'gave' them to her indefinitely... (which could also explain, if need be, how Circe was able to de-power her in Heinbergs run).