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Mundungus
09-16-2009, 12:01 PM
I'm kind of new to Moon Knight.

I read The Bottom, that was about it. The character struck a cord with me, though, and I've kept an eye on his exploits through previews and solicitations. I'm familiar with the concept, the premise.

All I have to say is, if you haven't read Vengeance of Moon Knight yet, do it. It's pretty damn good.

The dialogue. The art. It sucks you in. Hurwitz and Opeņa are a winning formula here.

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Highlights:

-Moon Knight parks his bike in an assailant's face.
-He gives Norman Osborn the Hitler stache.
-He flicks Khonshu out a window.
-He spares a degenerate.
-He reflects against the backdrop of the early morning sun.
-The Sentry brings him breakfast--with a vengeance!

kalorama
09-16-2009, 12:09 PM
I'm an old school Moon Knight fan. I tried reading the relaunched version, but the guy in the costume just isn't Moon Knight to me. They jettisoned all of the stuff that made him really interesting and replaced it with warmed over "bad-ass vigilante" shtick and, for bad measure, melded it onto the mess that was Fists of Khonshu. From what I've seen (I haven't read the issue) Vengeance of Moon Knight looks like a deeper drive down the same bad road.

HeckBoy
09-16-2009, 12:33 PM
Some things I've been wondering since the most recent MK series started:
1.) Does Moony have any powers currently?
2.) Was Khonshu/Bushman ever anything more than a hallucination?
3.) Does Marc still have multiple-personalities?

I only read the first arc, and an issue here and there since, so I'm definitely out of the loop.

pharoahe22
09-16-2009, 12:59 PM
I'm an old school Moon Knight fan. I tried reading the relaunched version, but the guy in the costume just isn't Moon Knight to me. They jettisoned all of the stuff that made him really interesting and replaced it with warmed over "bad-ass vigilante" shtick and, for bad measure, melded it onto the mess that was Fists of Khonshu. From what I've seen (I haven't read the issue) Vengeance of Moon Knight looks like a deeper drive down the same bad road.

I would actually check out Vengeance of the Moon Knight it was very very good and felt like a fresh beginning! I highly recommend it and I can't wait for the next issue!

Mundungus
09-16-2009, 01:29 PM
I think Moon Knight is using the Jake Lockley persona to escape from the horrors of his past, but he hasn't forgotten who he really is.

Sean Walsh
09-16-2009, 01:51 PM
The dialogue. The art. It sucks you in. Hurwitz and Opeņa are a winning formula here.

Opeņa is definitely a very very good artist. I was totally bummed when he left PUNISHER.

....however, having picked up that MOON KNIGHT SAGA book a couple weeks ago (and again, kudos to Marvel for giving a guy like MK very unique - and cheap! - exposure to mainstream readers) I was quite fulfilled with the knowledge it contained and will strongly consider picking up this book up now.

scribbleMind
09-16-2009, 03:50 PM
Some things I've been wondering since the most recent MK series started:
1.) Does Moony have any powers currently?
2.) Was Khonshu/Bushman ever anything more than a hallucination?
3.) Does Marc still have multiple-personalities?

I only read the first arc, and an issue here and there since, so I'm definitely out of the loop.

1.) No, unless, see #2
2.) Never really confirmed. I don't have VoM#1 yet, but I heard it suggests he went crazy after the Bushma facen thing, but that doesn't really explain his history with being brought from the dead and having super strength, plus the Profile's comments on the costume. It has been suggested that Moon Knight is so crazy that it affects all these things, which could be a super power.
3.)Yes, kind of. I wouldn't call them entirely new personalities as much as different aspects of the same person. Same yolk using different whites.

kalorama
09-16-2009, 05:51 PM
3.) Does Marc still have multiple-personalities?

I only read the first arc, and an issue here and there since, so I'm definitely out of the loop.

The original version never had multiple personalities. He had multiple identities. A big difference.

Mundungus
09-16-2009, 09:36 PM
I read the Moon Knight #1 back-up bonus and I found it odd that Marlene was calling him Steven in private. I understand adopting multiple identities, but if I'm home alone with my girlfriend who is aware of my activities then I don't think she would need to call me by any of my other identities.

I also thought MK's first issue was a nice compliment to the themes being explored in VoM.

kalorama
09-16-2009, 09:55 PM
Marlene called him Steven because at the time that was his "real" civilian identity. He'd pretty much put his life as Marc Spector, gun for hire behind him at that point. It was part of his past he wanted to forget about. He created Grant both as a refuge from the past and a cover for his Moon Knight activities. As far as he was concerned, Steven Grant was his real name then.

Mundungus
09-16-2009, 10:00 PM
Oh okay. Cool. I'm hoping to get some of the Moon Knight Essentials, so that'll probably flesh out my understanding of the character.

Jimmy Holograph
09-17-2009, 02:14 AM
Hmm I still don't know exactly what to think of this issue yet. In a sense its not that a big a departure from Benson's run. At all. Opena's art is definitely a boost though, the recent issues of Remender's Punisher have suffered in his absence, but I'm still upset that Jefte Palo was wasted on the Down South arc of the last volume, where basically nothing happened. I'll have to read the next few issues to get a better grasp on where Hurwitz is going with this book.

Freakzeek
09-17-2009, 02:45 AM
Vengeance of Moon Knight #1 : aka Moon Knight most badass character of the 616, can we say VAN SURFING! I for one Loved the Down South Arc, I mean come on Luchadore Mercanies !

lonewolf23k
09-17-2009, 05:37 AM
I like that he's still badass, but is making a conscious effort to move away from brutal ultra-violence.

Jimmy Holograph
09-17-2009, 05:51 AM
Vengeance of Moon Knight #1 : aka Moon Knight most badass character of the 616, can we say VAN SURFING! I for one Loved the Down South Arc, I mean come on Luchadore Mercanies !

The problem for me is that Benson became more interested in writing the Zapata Brothers than Moon Knight, and Marc basically didn't do anything throughout the whole arc except for getting ready to suit up to take on the gang, only to find out that Toltec had already killed everyone.

RolandJP
09-17-2009, 05:54 AM
Love of Opena's art, seconded.

To be honest, the writing for Moon knight has always been strong. Its the villains in the series that need the makeover.

pharoahe22
09-17-2009, 06:24 AM
Love of Opena's art, seconded.

To be honest, the writing for Moon knight has always been strong. Its the villains in the series that need the makeover.

I don't think that'll be a problem now that Moon Knight's directing his attention towards Norman Osborn...we'll probably at least get Daken & Bullseye as villains, probably Mr. X too.

ThunderWolf!!!
09-17-2009, 08:34 AM
I hope that Hurwitz mentions that Sentry and Marc Spector knows each other.That was the only good thing that come out of Red Hulk series.

pharoahe22
09-17-2009, 08:42 AM
I hope that Hurwitz mentions that Sentry and Marc Spector knows each other.That was the only good thing that come out of Red Hulk series.

I'm so excited for this...i've been begging for some Sentry/Moon Knight interaction...yeah i think it should def be mentioned as long as they don't mention the "Wendi-Hulks" part lol

Freakzeek
09-17-2009, 09:16 AM
The problem for me is that Benson became more interested in writing the Zapata Brothers than Moon Knight, and Marc basically didn't do anything throughout the whole arc except for getting ready to suit up to take on the gang, only to find out that Toltec had already killed everyone.

Okay maybe i'm looking into things that aren't there but i thought Toltec represented what marc would have ultimatiley become, this ruthless criminal killing machine that leaves his mark at the killing(the aztec symbols in blood/marc's moon carving). so he see's all this murder and he realizes this isn't what he wants, he seeks redemption for all the life's he took. He doesn't want to become Toltec

Jimmy Holograph
09-17-2009, 09:44 AM
Okay maybe i'm looking into things that aren't there but i thought Toltec represented what marc would have ultimatiley become, this ruthless criminal killing machine that leaves his mark at the killing(the aztec symbols in blood/marc's moon carving). so he see's all this murder and he realizes this isn't what he wants, he seeks redemption for all the life's he took. He doesn't want to become Toltec

Yes thats true, but throughout the arc he was unwilling to go after the gang in an attempt to put them off his trail because he was still afraid of going over the edge. Ending in Marc/Jake coming to the realisation right after he finally goes after the gang, that he still wanted to be Moon Knight, but he didn't wan't to accept Konshu or the bloodshed that Konshu demanded as a result of seeing the massacre laid out by Toltec, combined with what he saw was happening back in NY with Norman Osborn.

I just don't think the story needed 5 issues to play out to the conclusion we ended up having, so the rest was heaps of filler in my eyes. I'm guessing Benson was told to finish up by #30, after the Thunderbolts arc didn't bring in enough new readers, so he stretched it out longer because he wouldn't get the chance to write any of the follow-up stories he may have planned.

Iron-boy
09-17-2009, 01:46 PM
How many pages were there in this issue?

napafish77
09-17-2009, 02:10 PM
I did not count the pages, but there is a reprint of Moon Knight #1in it.


I don't usually buy anything other than DD but I am going to give this a chance. As long as the writing stays interesting.

Fatguy
09-17-2009, 11:32 PM
I really enjoyed this issue! Opena's art is just fantastic, and I like the tweaked costume. Very cool indeed.

jazzbass101
09-18-2009, 01:27 AM
I liked the book till the final splash. Sweet Jesus, do I hate the Sentry. I liked MK's reintroduction, but I know that next month's book will be extremely similar Remender's Punisher #1 with a different antihero in the main role. Opena's art is great but I'm sure MK will just find a way to out-think the Sentry and at least escape him, which just about everyone in the 616 has done at this point. What's the point? It makes me not want to spend money on it. Marvel's writers/editors are getting lazy.

jazzbass101
09-18-2009, 01:30 AM
I liked the book till the final splash. Sweet Jesus, do I hate the Sentry. I liked MK's reintroduction, but I know that next month's book will be extremely similar Remender's Punisher #1 with a different antihero in the main role. Opena's art is great but I'm sure MK will just find a way to out-think the Sentry and at least escape him, which just about everyone in the 616 has done at this point. What's the point? It makes me not want to spend money on it. Marvel's writers/editors are getting lazy.

scribbleMind
09-18-2009, 02:03 AM
Having seen some preview art of issue 2, I don't believe it's going to go down the same way. I believe sentry is going to let Moon Knight go, probably with a warning.

Zomling
09-18-2009, 03:04 AM
Having seen some preview art of issue 2, I don't believe it's going to go down the same way. I believe sentry is going to let Moon Knight go, probably with a warning.

Have yo got a link to that?

I really enjoyed this issue, I think this is a welcome return to form for Moon Knight after the dark and dreary previous series.

I shall be dropping either Ms Marvel or Cable to buy this instead.

In the past MK has been a character that I read occsionally, but this new direction looks promising, let's hope it continues.

I guess this takes place before the latest issue of Dark Avengers because:

Sentry gets shot in the face by his wife using Noh Var's Kree weapon (no pun intended).

RBishop
09-18-2009, 07:10 AM
I was at my LCS on Wednesday night and saw this sitting on the shelf. I have every other issue of Moon Knight ever published, but for some reason wasn't all that excited about this. However, since I'm a compulsive completionist, I bought it anyway.

It was fine, nothing special. The art is really strong but the writing is just fair, which is a problem for me: I can read a well-written but poorly drawn book, but I can't handle a beautiful book with lousy writing.

As for the direction of the book, I hope they get past the Norman Osborn/Dark Avengers fighting as quickly as possible and move onto some other villains. However, as Excelsior so accurately wrote in a previous post:

"Its the villains in the series that need the makeover"

If they try to make it with the same lame Moon Knight villains that have popped up in every previous series, this is DOA. Moon Knight lives and operates in New York, he should be able to find enough lower-level villains, maybe some forgotten Spider-Man or Daredevil adversaries, to tangle with. Stained-Glass Scarlet, Midnight and Black Spectre just aren't going to get it done, and the obligatory fight with Jack Russell/Werewolf by Night is played out.

As a series, I doubt it survives long enough for me to get really invested in it. Moon Knight's a decent character but B- or C-List characters don't tend to have long solo runs. I hope I'm wrong, but most likely time will prove me right.

pharoahe22
09-18-2009, 09:33 AM
I was at my LCS on Wednesday night and saw this sitting on the shelf. I have every other issue of Moon Knight ever published, but for some reason wasn't all that excited about this. However, since I'm a compulsive completionist, I bought it anyway.

It was fine, nothing special. The art is really strong but the writing is just fair, which is a problem for me: I can read a well-written but poorly drawn book, but I can't handle a beautiful book with lousy writing.

As for the direction of the book, I hope they get past the Norman Osborn/Dark Avengers fighting as quickly as possible and move onto some other villains. However, as Excelsior so accurately wrote in a previous post:



If they try to make it with the same lame Moon Knight villains that have popped up in every previous series, this is DOA. Moon Knight lives and operates in New York, he should be able to find enough lower-level villains, maybe some forgotten Spider-Man or Daredevil adversaries, to tangle with. Stained-Glass Scarlet, Midnight and Black Spectre just aren't going to get it done, and the obligatory fight with Jack Russell/Werewolf by Night is played out.

As a series, I doubt it survives long enough for me to get really invested in it. Moon Knight's a decent character but B- or C-List characters don't tend to have long solo runs. I hope I'm wrong, but most likely time will prove me right.

To be fair though, this was more of an entry/new jump start to the book. It had to lay things out for a new reader coming to the book who doesn't know much about Moon Knight. I think it did a very good job of that. Now, from the 2nd issue on, it has to get jump-started into high gear....I really did like the first issue's set-up though.

pharoahe22
09-18-2009, 09:44 AM
Characters that I'd love to see Moon Knight square off against:

-The Sentry (Not in a fight per se, but I can't wait for the interaction)
-Daken
-Bullseye
-Mr. X
-Taskmaster
-Daredevil, Elektra, White Tiger, Black Taratula & the Hand (Misunderstanding)
-Lady Bullseye
-The Kingpin

Hmmm...who else would you guys like to see? I always wanted to see a Moon Knight/Wolverine team-up...they've had plenty of appearances together but never a full-fledged team-up with just those two.

Fatguy
09-18-2009, 10:53 AM
Stained-Glass Scarlet, Midnight and Black Spectre just aren't going to get it done, and the obligatory fight with Jack Russell/Werewolf by Night is played out.

I disagree, I think it takes more than a couple of meetings a decade in order for something to be played out. I love the interactions between the two and will be very excited if they announce Russell appearing in the book.

Hell, make him a supporting character. THAT, I would love to see.

scribbleMind
09-18-2009, 11:34 AM
Have yo got a link to that?

I really enjoyed this issue, I think this is a welcome return to form for Moon Knight after the dark and dreary previous series.

I shall be dropping either Ms Marvel or Cable to buy this instead.

In the past MK has been a character that I read occsionally, but this new direction looks promising, let's hope it continues.

I guess this takes place before the latest issue of Dark Avengers because:

Sentry gets shot in the face by his wife using Noh Var's Kree weapon (no pun intended).

Yeah, you can check out some scans here:
http://marvel.com/news/comicstories.9471.Moon_Knight~colon~_Here_Comes_th e_Sun

The Batman
09-18-2009, 12:09 PM
While I thought there could've been a little more meat to the issue, overall I enjoyed this. Opena did a great job with the art chores even if I think he's over detailing Moon Knight's costume in some panels. Similarly, I like that Hurwitz is picking up on some of what's happened in the last series (Marc's descent into brutality and violence and coming dangerously close to becoming a monster like Toltec) while also moving Moon Knight forward. The last series was dwelling on the violence a bit too often and for a bit too long, to the point where I was starting to lose interest, and seeing Marc turn his back on that felt like a breath of fresh air.

I'm definitely there for issue #2.

pharoahe22
09-18-2009, 01:00 PM
Yeah, you can check out some scans here:
http://marvel.com/news/comicstories.9471.Moon_Knight~colon~_Here_Comes_th e_Sun

That looks really good...I'm really looking forward to this series!!!

Fatguy
09-18-2009, 01:13 PM
Man, that preview looks great. They better have some huge plans for Opena in the future.

RBishop
09-18-2009, 07:20 PM
To be fair though, this was more of an entry/new jump start to the book. It had to lay things out for a new reader coming to the book who doesn't know much about Moon Knight.
That's a good assessment, although there was just a Moon Knight series that ended within the past six months; it's not as if the character has been MIA for years and is now just getting a series. Most of the readers of this book are going to be the same ones that were reading the previous series, and if that is the case, then why the need to cancel the last series and start this one?

It isn't as though anything that was done in this first issue couldn't have followed the last story told in the previous issue. Face it, they replaced Carol Danvers with Karla Sofen as Ms. Marvel and didn't bother restarting the series, so why did they feel the need to bring out a brand-new series featuring Moon Knight when this could have just been an organic development in the story from the last series; Marc saw what he was becoming and decided to return to New York and change his ways.

RBishop
09-18-2009, 07:31 PM
I disagree, I think it takes more than a couple of meetings a decade in order for something to be played out. I love the interactions between the two and will be very excited if they announce Russell appearing in the book.

Hell, make him a supporting character. THAT, I would love to see.
To me, the Moon Knight/Werewolf dynamic is played out because there's no reason for it at this point in time.

The original set-up involved The Committee, who wanted Moon Knight to hunt down the Werewolf and capture him for their purposes. Unless the writer wants to unearth that concept again, what reason does Moon Knight have for getting involved with Werewolf by Night? Jack Russell isn't truly a villain, so any conflict between the two would have to be the result of truly contrived circumstances.

Fatguy
09-18-2009, 07:38 PM
To me, the Moon Knight/Werewolf dynamic is played out because there's no reason for it at this point in time.

The original set-up involved The Committee, who wanted Moon Knight to hunt down the Werewolf and capture him for their purposes. Unless the writer wants to unearth that concept again, what reason does Moon Knight have for getting involved with Werewolf by Night? Jack Russell isn't truly a villain, so any conflict between the two would have to be the result of truly contrived circumstances.

By definition, really, everything in comics is contrived. Who cares as long as the story is entertaining.

And there's lots of characters that have frequent run-ins, one doesnt have to be a "villain". Its a popular comic book staple. Wolverine somehow runs into Hulk all the time. Punisher collides with Daredevil. These things happen because the readers enjoy the history and interactions between certain characters.

Gitaroo_Dude
09-19-2009, 12:24 AM
That's a good assessment, although there was just a Moon Knight series that ended within the past six months; it's not as if the character has been MIA for years and is now just getting a series. Most of the readers of this book are going to be the same ones that were reading the previous series, and if that is the case, then why the need to cancel the last series and start this one?

It isn't as though anything that was done in this first issue couldn't have followed the last story told in the previous issue. Face it, they replaced Carol Danvers with Karla Sofen as Ms. Marvel and didn't bother restarting the series, so why did they feel the need to bring out a brand-new series featuring Moon Knight when this could have just been an organic development in the story from the last series; Marc saw what he was becoming and decided to return to New York and change his ways.

They relaunch it as a #1 along with the free Moon Knight saga to pull in new readers.

Like me. This is the first issue of Moon Knight I've ever picked up and I was really, pleasantly surprised. Great art for a small title like this and the writing was really accessible and got a new reader like myself up to speed on everything I needed to know.

I for one am in for the long haul as long as the quality remains as consistent as this.

Mundungus
09-19-2009, 02:11 AM
Yeah, you can check out some scans here:
http://marvel.com/news/comicstories.9471.Moon_Knight~colon~_Here_Comes_th e_Sun

Oh man. That looks awesome. I really can't wait.

Destro777
09-19-2009, 08:41 AM
Im relatively new to Moon Knight and Im mad it took me this long to follow him. I originally bought the first 2 issues of Charlie Huston’s MK reboot from 2006 and, for whatever reason, it didn’t click with me initially. I rediscovered that arc recently and tracked down my missing issues (3-6). What a fantastically insane marvel character! I was surprised to see a character like this out of marvel. The Khonshu scenes are just golden (especially in those scenes with Captain America). Issue 13, I believe, where he registers is an all time classic in my eyes. Ive only read Huston's time on the title so far.

This new issue was a bit light content and lacked the deeply dark tone of that earlier stuff but was still a decent introduction - and the new costume is hella badass. Normally I would trade wait this series but Ive been wanting to read the first 70s Moon Knight issue and its reprinted here. Its funny how the 70's issue had 10 times the content compared to the newer one. I hope they can keep the momentum going from the recent reboot - the character has so much untapped potential.

EDIT: I also wanted to add that the supporting cast of Moon Knight is truely one of the best in comics. A dirty, fly infested, suit wearing, criptic street bum to a female african american 40-something diner owner. Youre not going to find a more diverse cast. And its wild theyve nearly all been there since day one (MK#1).

This is the first issue of Moon Knight I've ever picked up and I was really, pleasantly surprised.
Do yourself a favor and check out Huston's issues from 2006. They are in trade format (The Bottom and Midnight Sun). But also try to get the first single issue of that run (Moon Knight #1) as it has a very slick writeup about MK on the last page by the author

RBishop
09-19-2009, 11:58 AM
They relaunch it as a #1 along with the free Moon Knight saga to pull in new readers.

Like me. This is the first issue of Moon Knight I've ever picked up and I was really, pleasantly surprised. Great art for a small title like this and the writing was really accessible and got a new reader like myself up to speed on everything I needed to know.

I for one am in for the long haul as long as the quality remains as consistent as this.
Fair enough. Glad you enjoyed it and hope there are more folks like you to help sustain this series. I think the character has a lot of potential and can fill a particular niche in the MU, he just needs readers.

RBishop
09-19-2009, 12:16 PM
And there's lots of characters that have frequent run-ins, one doesnt have to be a "villain". Its a popular comic book staple. Wolverine somehow runs into Hulk all the time. Punisher collides with Daredevil. These things happen because the readers enjoy the history and interactions between certain characters.
I know it happens, but it runs the risk of falling into the "Three's Company" trap, where the only reason for conflict is because of a wacky misunderstanding. Wolverine and Hulk is a great example of that; they just seem to cross paths at random and then they have to fight, because that's what they do when they cross paths. The characters have enough history that one could reasonably assume that they wouldn't fight, because each knows what the other is about, but they fight because it seems like they should. If Moon Knight and Jack Russell were to come into contact, what is their reason for fighting? Originally, Moon Knight was hired to do a job concerning the Werewolf, but now, what would the fight be based on other than a wacky misunderstanding?

Now, Punisher and Daredevil running into each other makes sense, because they both operate in the same city. They want the same thing (justice), but have different ideas about how it should be accomplished (the "killing vs. no kiling" argument that dominates their interaction). It's no stretch to have them in the same place at the same time and have conflict.

To your other point, I know all of the action in a comic book is contrived, but I prefer something that occurs organically, as a natural extension of what has been occuring with the characters. I look at the creation of Venom, which happened when two entities, one human and one extraterrestrial, that both hated Peter Parker came into contact with one another. Contrived? Of course, but once you get past the incredibly small chance those two entities would ever come into contact with one another, their pairing made sense and you could just enjoy the story for the sake of the story.

pariah-1972
09-19-2009, 01:22 PM
This issue didn't really do much for me, but i guess critically it was a decent first issue but it just didn't grab me all that much.

Karthak
09-19-2009, 01:52 PM
The part where he swings past the fantastic four and Reed breaks his bottle in surprise made me laugh.

Taskmaster
09-19-2009, 02:10 PM
Loved it, loved it, loved it! Glad to see Marc stepping away from the psychopath he was portrayed as in the last series, that last run turned me off this version has me excited for the next issue, can't wait to see Marc and Osborn come face to face

Jim Thompson
09-19-2009, 07:55 PM
I thought this was a pretty good issue, but I did think the feature story suffered in comparison to the reprint of Moon Knight #1 in the back. But still, a good start, and I was happy to see they are moving Moon Knight away from being a brutal, crazed killer.

pariah-1972
09-19-2009, 08:11 PM
I thought this was a pretty good issue, but I did think the feature story suffered in comparison to the reprint of Moon Knight #1 in the back. But still, a good start, and I was happy to see they are moving Moon Knight away from being a brutal, crazed killer.But by doing that doesn't this make him even more similar to Bat-man? especially by using gadgets with his icon on them?

Gitaroo_Dude
09-19-2009, 08:29 PM
I thought this was a pretty good issue, but I did think the feature story suffered in comparison to the reprint of Moon Knight #1 in the back. But still, a good start, and I was happy to see they are moving Moon Knight away from being a brutal, crazed killer.

Not really sure what you mean, are you saying the reprint in the back was better than the new series or that the reprint added an extra dollar onto the comic?

YouthofToday
09-19-2009, 09:14 PM
like everyone else said, i loved Opena's art. Curious to how long he's stays. I thought I read an interview with Remender where he said that Opena would be back on Punisher at some point.

Overall, i thought it was a decent issue. I don't mind a less insane Moon Knight. I like him trying to deal with his demons instead of giving into them. I'll definitely pick up the next issue to see where it goes.

Vagabond
09-19-2009, 09:31 PM
I frankly enjoyed the brutality of the last series. I thought it settled him nicely between the morality-laden pursuit of justice of Daredevil and the violent and typically fatal dishing out judgment of the Punisher, willing to really rough up offenders and even mark them but not going through with outright murder. I thought his mental health and hallucinations made him really interesting, conflicted character who wanted to some good and somewhat appease the god he is serving.

I'm definitely going to give this book a chance, the improved costume looks great, I can handle the guns and the bike is really neat too. The art is fantastic, leaps and bounds better than the art in a portion of the last series. Obviously people still draw similarities between Moon Knight and Batman and I do admit, I wish some effort was made to dilute those claims more. Nonetheless, I'm really excited to see where this will go.

Jim Thompson
09-20-2009, 07:42 PM
But by doing that doesn't this make him even more similar to Bat-man? especially by using gadgets with his icon on them?It does draw the comparison, but there is no help for that, I think. He's going to be compared to Batman no matter how they portray him. I just didn't find him as interesting as a brutal killer as I did when he was sort of a spooky, creepy figure dealing with other spooky, creepy figures.

Jim Thompson
09-20-2009, 07:45 PM
Not really sure what you mean, are you saying the reprint in the back was better than the new series or that the reprint added an extra dollar onto the comic?Sorry I was unclear. I meant I think the reprint in the back was better than the headliner story. That's not to say I thought the headliner was bad -- I just don't think it is as good as that Moon Knight #1 was.

Burning_Pumpkin
09-21-2009, 10:44 AM
Big Moon Knight fan, but I was seriously unimpressed by the new angle.

No murder, mayhem, killing or Khonshu.

Now Moony really is just a poor-man's Batman. I'm one very disappointed fan.

Karthak
09-21-2009, 11:49 AM
No murder, mayhem, killing or Khonshu.


Khonshu is still around. He was the little guy who was complaining that Marc wasn't carving up people's faces anymore.

Burning_Pumpkin
09-21-2009, 12:44 PM
Khonshu is still around. He was the little guy who was complaining that Marc wasn't carving up people's faces anymore.

I know. But the poor little bugger got pinged out the car window. I could relate to his discontent.

The Batman
09-21-2009, 12:58 PM
Now Moony really is just a poor-man's Batman. I'm one very disappointed fan.

No, not really. Strip away the themed gadgets and vehicles from each and you've got two very different characters.

Burning_Pumpkin
09-21-2009, 01:23 PM
No, not really. Strip away the themed gadgets and vehicles from each and you've got two very different characters.

I would have agreed with you - Hell, I defended Moony to the bitter end against that very statement in the past - but that was before reading Vengeance of the Moon Knight #1.

Maybe i'm waaaay off the mark, maybe i'm judging a book by it's cover, but, for me, VotMK is off to an extraordinarily weak start.

kalorama
09-21-2009, 01:37 PM
From the description's I'm reading, this Moon Knight sounds like something a bit closer to the "classic" version. But until some writer sacks up and figures out how to properly implement the multiple identity (not personality) angle, it's still a pale imitation as far as I'm concerned.

scribbleMind
09-21-2009, 01:41 PM
I'm sure there will be murder, mayhem, and killing. Just not Moon Knight that will be causing most of it, and that's ok. Moon Knight's decent into madness is only a small mark on his history, an important one, but small nonetheless. This Moon Knight is like a mix between the last Moon Knight and classic Moon Knight, which is good because after cutting of Bushman's face, there is no way he can ever return to being classic Moon Knight.

I'm hoping Moon Knight gets a new and notable enemy during the asylum break out in the Dec. solicits. It's a good opportunity to introduce new villains.

Don't pee in the (Dead)pool
09-21-2009, 02:39 PM
I'm sure there will be murder, mayhem, and killing. Just not Moon Knight that will be causing most of it, and that's ok. Moon Knight's decent into madness is only a small mark on his history, an important one, but small nonetheless. This Moon Knight is like a mix between the last Moon Knight and classic Moon Knight, which is good because after cutting of Bushman's face, there is no way he can ever return to being classic Moon Knight.

I'm hoping Moon Knight gets a new and notable enemy during the asylum break out in the Dec. solicits. It's a good opportunity to introduce new villains.

I agree with this. Moon Knight seems in good hands here and I'm intrigued with what lies ahead.

The Batman
09-21-2009, 09:17 PM
I would have agreed with you - Hell, I defended Moony to the bitter end against that very statement in the past - but that was before reading Vengeance of the Moon Knight #1.

Maybe i'm waaaay off the mark, maybe i'm judging a book by it's cover, but, for me, VotMK is off to an extraordinarily weak start.


Maybe. Maybe not. Though, if that is indeed the case, it's not because Moon Knight's suddenly become a Batman knock off.

Will.S
09-21-2009, 11:47 PM
I thought this was a pretty good issue, but I did think the feature story suffered in comparison to the reprint of Moon Knight #1 in the back. But still, a good start, and I was happy to see they are moving Moon Knight away from being a brutal, crazed killer.
I felt the same.

It's a decent/good issue but I'd like to see a little more oomph and a little more depth within the next couple of issues. Since Greg Hurwitz is a novelist as well I can't help but get the feeling that this will read similarly to Charlie Huston's Moon Knight in that it'll read much better in trade. What's funny is that I dropped Moon Knight right after Huston left but after having read that Moon Knight Saga I really got back into wanting to read Moon Knight comics so this book was perfectly timed for me.

Jerome Opena's art rocked on this issue and I'm looking forward to seeing more of him in Moon Knight so I hope Marvel won't keep bouncing him around on Punisher as well.

7/10

I know. But the poor little bugger got pinged out the car window. I could relate to his discontent.
Yeah, although perhaps the size of little Khonshu directly relates to Moon Knight's craziness being much lessor than it was before.

From the description's I'm reading, this Moon Knight sounds like something a bit closer to the "classic" version. But until some writer sacks up and figures out how to properly implement the multiple identity (not personality) angle, it's still a pale imitation as far as I'm concerned.
As far as I know Hurwitz didn't seem to be going for the multiple personality angle and seemed to be using the multiple identity one correctly.

Bookem Danno
09-22-2009, 07:20 PM
I agree with this. Moon Knight seems in good hands here and I'm intrigued with what lies ahead.

I really liked the page with the crossover reaction of the FF, the awe of the Spidey fan, and the humor of the Hitler moustache. Also, the rest of the issue.

Don't pee in the (Dead)pool
09-23-2009, 02:51 AM
I really liked the page with the crossover reaction of the FF, the awe of the Spidey fan, and the humor of the Hitler moustache. Also, the rest of the issue.

The Hitler panel was brilliant. So simple and yet so effective.:biggrin: