What did the U.S. Presidents do in Marvel history?

[stelok]

Let me see....


Roosevelt authorized the super-soldier project that created Captain America and then later gave the round shield to Captain America

Truman promoted Spirit of '76 to Captain America

Eisenhower thanked James Woo and his agents for rescuing him from Yellow Claw

Nixon's secretary of state Henry Kissinger ordered the Fantastic Four to cease hostilities with Dr. Doom.

Nixon tried to take over America and then blew himself in front of Cap.

Reagan became a snake and got busted by Cap.

Reagan pardoned Machine Man

Clinton calmed the superheroes and asked them to cease fighting with Hulk during Nick Fury's funeral.

Clinton exiled Cap on the grounds of treason.

Bush nominated Tony Stark to the U.S. secretary of Defense

Obama promoted Norman Osborn to the directorship of HAMMER.

[coconutphone]

Let me see....


Roosevelt authorized the super-soldier project that created Captain America and then later gave the round shield to Captain America

Truman promoted Spirit of '76 to Captain America

Eisenhower thanked James Woo and his agents for rescuing him from Yellow Claw

Nixon's secretary of state Henry Kissinger ordered the Fantastic Four to cease hostilities with Dr. Doom.

Nixon tried to take over America and then blew himself in front of Cap.

Reagan became a snake and got busted by Cap.

Reagan pardoned Machine Man

Clinton calmed the superheroes and asked them to cease fighting with Hulk during Nick Fury's funeral.

Clinton exiled Cap on the grounds of treason.

Bush nominated Tony Stark to the U.S. secretary of Defense

Obama promoted Norman Osborn to the directorship of HAMMER.

I think that last one was Bush. Obama had to just roll with it after it was done.

[RolandJP]

Obama also established diplomatic ties with Wakanda.

He reinstated Blue Marvel to superhero status.

* Helped boast a single issue of Spiderman sales to a million plus..the only comic to do so in years.

[Dog]

Nixon's secretary of state Henry Kissinger ordered the Fantastic Four to cease hostilities with Dr. Doom.

Nixon tried to take over America and then blew himself in front of Cap.

Reagan became a snake and got busted by Cap.

Reagan pardoned Machine Man

Clinton calmed the superheroes and asked them to cease fighting with Hulk during Nick Fury's funeral.

Clinton exiled Cap on the grounds of treason.

Bush nominated Tony Stark to the U.S. secretary of Defense

Obama promoted Norman Osborn to the directorship of HAMMER.
So, what have we all decided is the conversion from Marvel years to real years? It's my understanding that it's only been 13 or 14 years in "Marvel time" since the Fantastic Four got their powers (please correct me if I'm wrong). I guess that means all those presidents only got 1 term, and Ford, Carter, and Bush, Sr. never made the big time?

[Your Imaginary Pal]

Kennedy told the Blue Marvel he was too black and needed to disappear until things mellowed out.

[XPac]

I think that last one was Bush. Obama had to just roll with it after it was done.

Let's be fair here though... he didn't have to roll with it. He choose to roll with it.

All of Dark Reign is going on under Obama's watch.

[jarvSthe1]

Clinton told the X-Men they were on their own during the X-Tinction Agenda.

Didn't Gyrich said that the (then current) POTUS said there should only be 7 Avengers?

[Iron Maiden]

Doctor Doom tried to force President Kennedy into giving him a spot in his cabinet, or at least someone with hair like his and a daughter named Caroline.

[o1pickleboy]

Not 616 but the Black Mamba was Gerald Ford

[T Hedge Coke]

Nixon tried to take over America and then blew himself in front of Cap.

This is not what you meant, but it is my image I now can't get rid of of the day.

[XPac]

Of course, given Marvels sliding time scale, I wonder if a lot of that Nixon doesn't have to be retconned into Clinton or something.

I suppose that's the downside to marvel using real presidents. It's one area where you can track the passage of time, and that's obviously a problem after a while.

[coconutphone]

Meh it's really no different than saying Tony was in the Vietnam war and then changing that to Gulf war. You gotta just roll with the punches when it comes to ANY current event/pop culture reference.

[Global Honored]

Great thread. Any presidential references made in the NOIR universe?

[Push You Down]

Clinton told the X-Men they were on their own during the X-Tinction Agenda.


That would have been Bush Sr. X-tinction Agenda was '90 or '91.

[ResIpsaLoquitur]

Bush '43 gave the Avengers some inspiring words during Kang's takeover of Earth a few years ago.

[StoneGold]

Of course, given Marvels sliding time scale, I wonder if a lot of that Nixon doesn't have to be retconned into Clinton or something.

I suppose that's the downside to marvel using real presidents. It's one area where you can track the passage of time, and that's obviously a problem after a while.

If you're just going by 10 years, it's more likely to be W Bush. Cap wasn't resurrected until some time in, and the Nixon thing wasn't until another decade or so later real time.


Clinton also chased Ross around in his boxers. And W argued politics with Queen Divine Justice. And I think Reagan pardoned the Hulk at some point. Or maybe it was just PAD retconning it to Reagan.

[RolandJP]

Kennedy told the Blue Marvel he was too black and needed to disappear until things mellowed out.

Is that why the Comedian took him out?

[invisiblefive]

in super-villains team up, we see kissinger making a strategic alliance with doom, and telling the fantastic four to leave him alone for national reason, or something. so even though he's not shown, clearly nixon has made an alliance with latveria.

[invisiblefive]

Bush '43 gave the Avengers some inspiring words during Kang's takeover of Earth a few years ago.
yeah, he also told hem it was okay to destroy cities and kill civilians for greater good and fighting tyrans...
he might not have said it exactly that way, but that's really how i heard it, on the context of the story (and probably due also to the political context of time...)

[ResIpsaLoquitur]

If you're just going by 10 years, it's more likely to be W Bush. Cap wasn't resurrected until some time in, and the Nixon thing wasn't until another decade or so later real time.


Clinton also chased Ross around in his boxers. And W argued politics with Queen Divine Justice. And I think Reagan pardoned the Hulk at some point. Or maybe it was just PAD retconning it to Reagan.

No, it was Reagan. However, Clinton later did the same after the Hulk saved his daughter's life.

[Talisman]

Clinton told the X-Men they were on their own during the X-Tinction Agenda.
That was Bush Sr. Just like Bush Sr. started the Magneto protocols.

[Iron Theurge]

in super-villains team up, we see kissinger making a strategic alliance with doom, and telling the fantastic four to leave him alone for national reason, or something. so even though he's not shown, clearly nixon has made an alliance with latveria.

Yet another reason why Nixon has a wallet with BadassMotherF***** stitched on it.


I hope Obama is there to tell Osborn that 'he's outlived his usefulness' when he's likely outed as a true criminal at the end of Dark Reign.

IT

[Iron Theurge]

Marvel seriously needs to play up their real world characters more in my opinion. The way they use presidents (even with a sliding time scale) is pretty cool. It draws readers in and makes the comics feel cooler than some of the continuity wars nonsense that can go on in DC Comics.

Marvel should literally make a presidential superhero (via some time travel plot). My vote is for Teddy Roosevelt.

IT

[Global Honored]

Yet another reason why Nixon has a wallet with BadassMotherF***** stitched on it. :smile:
Nixon was made for comics. Clinton and Reagan also have/had personalities that seem to fit right in to the larger than life world of Marvel.

[Sandy Hausler]

Let's be fair here though... he didn't have to roll with it. He choose to roll with it.

All of Dark Reign is going on under Obama's watch.

As if Obama doesn't have enough problems with the far right. Now he's going to take the rap for a bad comic book story line.:biggrin:

Sandy Hausler

[Umbra]

Let's be fair here though... he didn't have to roll with it. He choose to roll with it.

All of Dark Reign is going on under Obama's watch.

No, he was appointed by Bush. Obama would not have the power to simply undo it. So yeah, he rolled with it. It going on his watch, because of Bush. Just like the stuff that is going on now.

[jarvSthe1]

No, he was appointed by Bush. Obama would not have the power to simply undo it. So yeah, he rolled with it. It going on his watch, because of Bush. Just like the stuff that is going on now.
Ideally the president would have the power to undo this. But its just comic book talk anyway, meant to be in fun not meant to be taken seriously.

[XPac]

As if Obama doesn't have enough problems with the far right. Now he's going to take the rap for a bad comic book story line.:biggrin:

Sandy Hausler

As bad as comic book Obama potentially looks for allowing a mutant prison to happen in Utopia, he still smells like roses compared to most MU presidents. So the glass is half full at least. Probably more than half full comparatively speaking.

[Hindsight lad]

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Originally Posted by invisiblefive
in super-villains team up, we see kissinger making a strategic alliance with doom, and telling the fantastic four to leave him alone for national reason, or something. so even though he's not shown, clearly nixon has made an alliance with latveria.

Yet another reason why Nixon has a wallet with BadassMotherF***** stitched on it.

Actually, since Super-Villain team-up wasn't published until 1975, and Nixon resigned in 1974, Kissinger was representing Gerald Ford. (Kissinger was Ford's Secretary of State as well as Nixon's). That affable, clumsy attitude was simply a front.

Jimmy Carter appeared in the original M'Kraan crystal story from X-men. He is seen debating with Peter Corbeau over data coming from the sun. I think Walter Mondale also appears in some of Roger Stern's Hulk issues, the ones where Hulk fights They Who Wield Power.

Also, I am frankly surprised that Wakanda did not have diplomatic relations with the United States until the Obama administration. Actually, that can't be true. A Wakandan embassy was blown during Civil War. You do not have embassies in nations that you do not have diplomatic relations with; the United States does not have an embassy in Taiwan, Cuba, or Iran. We have agencies that represent our interests, but no embassies.

Hindsight lad

[ResIpsaLoquitur]

Marvel seriously needs to play up their real world characters more in my opinion. The way they use presidents (even with a sliding time scale) is pretty cool. It draws readers in and makes the comics feel cooler than some of the continuity wars nonsense that can go on in DC Comics.

Marvel should literally make a presidential superhero (via some time travel plot). My vote is for Teddy Roosevelt.

IT

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