If Every Marvel Character Got A New Arch-Nemesis...

[reinnemann2]

...what would be the perfect characterization and why? It seems that villains ultimately make the hero and no one wants their hero to grow stale so lets mix it up.

I think Peter Parker's would be someone who has a similar origin to his. Someone he thinks he could mentor and trust enough to let in on his secret, maybe a fellow scientist/writer of scientific advancements who wants only to bring back whatever loved one he lost. He experiments on himself and now uses the world at large as one gigantic guinea pig.

[Shellhead]

Marvel has long been very obsessed with Superman. So each Marvel character could get a new nemesis that is in some way loosely based on Superman. Then each and every one of them can job out to the Marvel heroes to make them look cool and make DC look bad. For simplicity, they could just call them all Hyperion and number them.

[remoteman]

I think it would be cool to see the Fantastic Four facing up against a twisted version of themselves, ie a family of villains. i think this would be much more interesting than the Frightful Four, who in my opinion have always been a pretty tired concept.

[worstblogever]

I think it would be cool to see the Fantastic Four facing up against a twisted version of themselves, ie a family of villains. i think this would be much more interesting than the Frightful Four, who in my opinion have always been a pretty tired concept.

The U-Foes have always been a better equivalent to them, I thought. They would work nicely.

[remoteman]

I know next to nothing about the U-Foes beyond their appearance in Spider-Man: Breakout so I didn't think about them. What good stories have they appeared in?

[Brother Justin Crowe]

I've always thought the antagonistic pairing of Cable (with Infonet capabilities) and Iron Man (with Extremis armor) during and immediately following Civil War would have made for a fantastic stories. Guess we'll never have 'em. It would have been an interesting new dynamic, to be sure.

Namor's new arch-nemesis can be Michael Phelps. Dazzler's can be Kanye West, because in 616, it was Allison Blaire who won the VMA the other night, not Taylor Swift.

[Iron Maiden]

Kanye West looks in the mirror and sees his greatest enemy.

[Ari Gold]

eh, I like the notion that an arch-nemesis represents the embodiment of the hero's greatest weakness/es, or a variation of that.

So for me, Spidey's nemesis (and admittedly I am far from a Spider-Man afficionado) would force him to look at the serious side of life. Kind of like the opposite of Batman's Joker.

Fantastic Four - would be a team of baddies that work in a unison that the FF could never achieve.

X-Men - Magneto

Captain America - A hero born out of modern-day America that represents all the values Cap is against. Doesn't even have to be a villain, b/c he represents modern society he has a following that rallies behind him and believes in his message of _____ . And it's something that just eats away at the Captain b/c it's not the America he wants to protect.

[Nyssane]

I know next to nothing about the U-Foes beyond their appearance in Spider-Man: Breakout so I didn't think about them. What good stories have they appeared in?

Mainly Hulk issues... I don't think the U-Foes and the F4 actually ever fought, which is ridiculous seeing as the U-Foes are almost direct copies of the F4.

[Monty_Cristo]

...what would be the perfect characterization and why? It seems that villains ultimately make the hero and no one wants their hero to grow stale so lets mix it up.

I think Peter Parker's would be someone who has a similar origin to his. Someone he thinks he could mentor and trust enough to let in on his secret, maybe a fellow scientist/writer of scientific advancements who wants only to bring back whatever loved one he lost. He experiments on himself and now uses the world at large as one gigantic guinea pig.

i think Ant-Man and Arcade would make great adversaries. Arcade's kind of an all-purpose villain. but i would love it if he started a more long-term rivalry with a hero. the thing about Arcade is that he doesn't want an easy kill but also doesn't like to lose. i think Eric is, at his core, a survivor. he's not powerful but he's agile and a master of the quick escape. plus, his powers make him suited to exploring Arcade's death traps. from a pure cost standpoint, it would be easier and more fun to create a murder world for an ant-sized opponent.

a good hero/villain combo consists of two characters who have something in common but, on the surface, appear to be exact opposites. both characters are somewhat immature horndogs who love gameplaying & reject social norms. but Arcade gets by on his inheritance and intellect. and Eric's a social parasite who is charming in a high school jock kind of way. what i really like about Arcade is that he has a certain sense of honor about him. he's a serial killer but considers himself to be a classy cultured individual. psychologically, i don't think he could deal with killing someone in an ordinary fashion. and Eric is completely unscrupulous. he stabs friends and strangers in the back, equally.

oh, i haven't gotten to the best part; the catalyst for the grudge. i don't think Eric should know why Arcade has singled him out, initially. Arcade would have been studying his opponent for some time. what i'm thinking is that Ant-Man should have (per his usual m.o.) followed an uncostumed White Rabbit back to her penthouse & spent a day or 2 spying on her. of course, Arcade (having once been in a relationship with WR) would also be spying on her. because Arcade's a crazy sociopath, he would consider his vendetta against Ant-Man as defending White Rabbit's honor. from there it would evolve into more of a twisted bromance; with Arcade just finding Ant-Man entertaining prey.

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[nieman]

I like:

Iron Man & Dr. Doom. Hell they are basically the same character.

Black Panther & Loki

Fantastic Four & Thunderbolts lead by Norman. Imagine that one. Norman isn't as intelligent as Reed, but he knows how to play the game.

Captain America - actually Doom & Iron Man sort of represent the corporate takeover and industrialism that rivals Caps traditional values as the Red, White & Blue and Apple Pie.

[Iron Maiden]

I like:

Iron Man & Dr. Doom. Hell they are basically the same character..

Well, just since CW anyway. But they do share some common interests in art and wine. The only difference is Doom apparently can hold his liquor. He might have pure O2 pumped into his system.



Fantastic Four & Thunderbolts lead by Norman. Imagine that one. Norman isn't as intelligent as Reed, but he knows how to play the game..

You could have a point there. Osborn only took Venom and some generic troopers with him when he confronted the FF in the Baxter Building. I'd like to see the Dark Avengers hang in there as a group even when Osborn eventually goes ballistic. They could drop the disguises and become a new group of superbaddies



Captain America - actually Doom & Iron Man sort of represent the corporate takeover and industrialism that rivals Caps traditional values as the Red, White & Blue and Apple Pie.

You mean Cap doesn't listen to Rush Limbaugh???

[Monty_Cristo]

Well, just since CW anyway. But they do share some common interests in art and wine. The only difference is Doom apparently can hold his liquor. He might have pure O2 pumped into his system.


i don't think that's O2 he's breathing all over that jailbait.
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[TheCaptain82]

Iron-Man - The Leader: With The Leader starting his own tech corp that rivals and exceeds Stark's.

Hulk or Sentry - Apocalypse: A revamped Apocalypse who's obsession with survival of the fittest and evolution would be perfect to target one of these two unique powerhouse characters, though Hulk isn't as unique anymore with so many clones running around..but still.

[Iron Maiden]

i don't think that's O2 he's breathing all over that jailbait.
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Are you sure that isn't Magneto under that armor? He was sniffing around Rogue for a while. I think that must be a Doombot that took a wrong turn into a trailer park.

[Monty_Cristo]

Are you sure that isn't Magneto under that armor? He was sniffing around Rogue for a while.

difference being that...

A. Rogue was an adult

B. she pursued him.

and

C. he, eventually, dumped her.

[Syrant]

i think Ant-Man and Arcade would make great adversaries.
Oh man, I miss Arcade. I'd love to see him show up again and face off with Eric.

For Spider-Man, I'd kind of like an evil Peter or something like his negative (http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/9997/darkspider1.png) self (http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/3707/darkspider2w.png) that Mr. Negative made in his mini-series. I know, Venom is suppose to be a stronger version of Spider-Man already. But he is ...uh ...stupid, and Gargan is hardly a threat for a prepared Spidey.

I know it sounds cheesy, but Dark Spider-Man would have equal intelligence, strength, fighting skills, and no need to hold back. He would have no attachment to family and friends. He could even rely on science more then our Peter does. Kind of like Dark Beast.

[Iron Maiden]

difference being that...

A. Rogue was an adult

B. she pursued him.

and

C. he, eventually, dumped her.

Wellll....you're example is a fake anyway. :wink: Doom never went after Boom Boom, she went after him...in her fantasty breaking the 4th wall story.

[Joey Deadcat]

Captain America - A hero born out of modern-day America that represents all the values Cap is against. Doesn't even have to be a villain, b/c he represents modern society he has a following that rallies behind him and believes in his message of _____ . And it's something that just eats away at the Captain b/c it's not the America he wants to protect.

They kinda did that when John Walker was the Super-Patriot.

[Jay Dogg]

I want to see more Cap vs. Magneto. The few times they squared off had been great.

[Frank]

I like:

Iron Man & Dr. Doom. Hell they are basically the same character.

Black Panther & Loki

Fantastic Four & Thunderbolts lead by Norman. Imagine that one. Norman isn't as intelligent as Reed, but he knows how to play the game.

Captain America - actually Doom & Iron Man sort of represent the corporate takeover and industrialism that rivals Caps traditional values as the Red, White & Blue and Apple Pie.

Doom is essentialy: "what if when Tony Stark got captured in a foreign land by the foreign dictator, he had decided to take that whole third world country over?"

[Nightstar1441]

Rocket Racoon vs Animal Control?

[Make Mine Mar-Vell]

Captain Marvel (Mar-Vell) back from "beyond" vs. The Void, Mephisto, Dracula (yes, Dracula), Galactus and mayve even Deadpool, though that may be an eventual reluctant friendship.

[Monty_Cristo]

Captain Marvel (Mar-Vell) back from "beyond" vs. The Void, Mephisto, Dracula (yes, Dracula), Galactus and mayve even Deadpool, though that may be an eventual reluctant friendship.

wouldn't work. Deadpool can't die and Mar-Vell is dead.