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Munkiman
09-12-2009, 11:30 PM
People seem to have mixed reactions to Infinite Crisis. A lot of the stuff I've seen online has been pretty negative. But I loved it. It was actually one of my first comics, and I just really loved it, even when I didn't know who a few minor characters were, like Firestorm and stuff, but that just makes it more enjoyable when I re-read it and I know more. One of my favorite parts was the sense of there just being constantly new disasters at every turn, so that even with all their powers, the superheroes could barely keep up. It made for a lot of great suspense and drama.

So, did you like Infinite Crisis? Or not?

ryerye17
09-12-2009, 11:38 PM
I loved it. But then again I do love big events a lot.

durty dee
09-12-2009, 11:57 PM
I loved it. It and Civil War helped me get into comics.

pryde15
09-12-2009, 11:59 PM
I loved the beginning of it, but it started to get alittle tiresome. Overall I enjoyed it though.

Hullababy
09-13-2009, 02:36 AM
I liked it. The start was strong. However, Supes-2 getting killed after taking a beating from emoboy-prime kinda put me off. Still enjoyed it.

Mobey Wee
09-13-2009, 03:17 AM
I didn't really enjoy it, but at the time, I wasn't really caught up on the DCU. It was one of the books through which I tried to get into DC. There was some good with the bad though, I definitely didn't hate it.

Darrell D.
09-13-2009, 04:53 AM
It was a stupid story with some of the most inconsistent art I have ever seen in an event.
Bad dialog, bad pacing, characters changed for no reason other than fitting the story. Plenty of arms and heads being ripped off, and we get to see the Golden Age Superman being beat to death.
Just incredibly uninspired.

Artificial idiot
09-13-2009, 04:56 AM
Lots of cool ideas, but far too many loose ends and the actual main event (which, along with Rann-Thanagar, Day of Vengeance and Villains United is the only thing I've read) didn't really feel like a stand alone story... Which really hurt it for me. It's not terrible, it's not great, it just didn't feel like it's own story.

Ilash
09-13-2009, 05:10 AM
I didn't really like it. It had some nice moments but they really didn't add up to a whole lot. Or, indeed, to anything at all.

Shellhead
09-13-2009, 06:25 AM
I wanted to like Infinite Crisis, but it was very disappointing. The lead-up was four mostly unrelated minis and then the actual story was a trainwreck of sloppy storytelling and sloppy artwork. For example, Power Girl's breasts were changing size and shape from panel to panel in one issue, for no apparent reason except bad artwork. Major plot points relied on extreme contrivance, and though Dido changed course at the last minute, we almost got to see Dick Grayson die a very stupid death.

Infinite Crisis made me stop being a fan of Geoff Johns. Sometimes he still entertains me, but the rest of the time, I am remembering how bad Infinite Crisis was, and then seeing similar flaws in his newer works.

SeritoNiN
09-13-2009, 11:39 AM
I loved it, one of my favorite events of all-time. The build up was the best build up to an event I've ever seen, Batman turning into a jerk after being mind wiped, Wonder Woman killing Maxwell Lord...Maxwell Lord taking over brother eye before that...just excellent build-up that I wish we could get again, and I felt the series itself was awesome. I'm a fan of the mutliverse so to see it return was great.

DeathSentence
09-13-2009, 11:45 AM
This comic was before I got into comics, so I never read it. Might have to pick it up someday.

4thHorseman
09-13-2009, 11:49 AM
I loved it. Thought the buildup was great, art was what I would expect from a crisis book (for the most part), and enjoyed the story.

aut0matic
09-13-2009, 01:17 PM
i wasn't a big fan. i picked it up since it was an important event and i was trying to understand the DC universe beyond GL at the time, plus it was written by geoff johns, the only DC writer i was familiar with then. i just thought the whole premise was lame, sorry. alexander luthor, superboy prime, why they turned evil... argh...

black adam was awesome, though. any story he's in is automatically made better.

Will.S
09-13-2009, 01:35 PM
I sort of liked it but didn't love it,

The more I read it the more it feels like a big Trinity story rather than a full on Crisis since a lot the problems stemmed from the Trinity not trusting each other on top of other things that went on in the lead in titles. Granted, it had a lot of Crisis trappings but it never really seemed to have that same type of impact that the original Crisis did even though Infinite made it's own little set of ripple effects.

I also disliked that there was way too much stuff going on just for the sake of making it seem big on top of the bevy of artists on the book, it should have been a lot more consistent with Jimenez drawing it all the way.

LordEd1976
09-13-2009, 02:15 PM
I liked it. Great build up. I have to admit I was curious to see how all the prologue minis tied in and I was pleasantly surprised when I saw it all explained.

Johns showed us how to care for characters. before IC I was not the biggest fan of Superboy (Conner), by the end of issue 6, I was as shocked as everyone on the page.

If I have any grips its that after a great start, the ending felt a bit rushed. I would've liked more regarding the battle of Metropolis and its aftermath.

Infinity Man
09-13-2009, 02:19 PM
I liked it. The end with the Joker and Alexander Luthor Jr. cracked me up.

Shush
09-13-2009, 02:45 PM
I loved it. I think it was one of the best things to happen to comics in a long time. I especially liked the fact that the road to IC was mostly relevant to the series. Due to the long build up you really felt like the DCU had reach one of its darkest hours. The flashes vs prime is probably one of my favorite sequences in any comic book. What I also liked is that besides the titans who got jobbed out, most of the DCU were given some sort of role to play in IC. From Firestorm to Black Adam to Batman, it really felt like a proper comics event. Other favorite scenes include the joker and luthor, Bruce and Dick and that scene where Bruce reaches out for Hal's hand before brother eye shuts down.

That being said the battle of metropolis did seem very rushed...probably could have done with another issue focusing on that.

Stanlos
09-13-2009, 04:02 PM
People seem to have mixed reactions to Infinite Crisis. A lot of the stuff I've seen online has been pretty negative. But I loved it. It was actually one of my first comics, and I just really loved it, even when I didn't know who a few minor characters were, like Firestorm and stuff, but that just makes it more enjoyable when I re-read it and I know more. One of my favorite parts was the sense of there just being constantly new disasters at every turn, so that even with all their powers, the superheroes could barely keep up. It made for a lot of great suspense and drama.

So, did you like Infinite Crisis? Or not?

Issue one was good and pretended to be somewhat acquainted with the year or so worth of tie-ins and minis from which it was supposedly derived.

Takeo and Kaede were married beneath the tree in mother's favorite orchard during the blossoming of the cherry blossoms.

If you are doing a WTF right now, you now know my reaction to what came after issue one for it had the very same kind of disconnect for me.

I loved it, one of my favorite events of all-time. The build up was the best build up to an event I've ever seen, Batman turning into a jerk after being mind wiped, Wonder Woman killing Maxwell Lord...Maxwell Lord taking over brother eye before that...just excellent build-up that I wish we could get again, and I felt the series itself was awesome. I'm a fan of the mutliverse so to see it return was great.

The buildup was fantastic. There were pieces EVERYWHERE!

Clockan
09-13-2009, 04:04 PM
i loved how it took decades worth of comics and made them valid again. the opposite of what COIE's did.

40footwolf
09-13-2009, 04:05 PM
I was a huge fan. It was the comic that got me really involved in the month-to-month purchasing of comics and it stands today as my favorite thing that Geoff Johns has written. I'm also one of the few people alive, I think, that LOVES the Superboy-Prime character.

hondobrode
09-13-2009, 04:33 PM
It was ok, but probably the least favorite Geoff Johns story I've read. It felt like too much was trying to get done. I was out of my mind waiting for the series and really wanted more resolution and the last issue left me feeling kind of gyped.

That's it ?!

Karl O'Neill
09-13-2009, 04:37 PM
Loved it.

Had problems but it was still quite good.

ScottyQuick
09-13-2009, 05:11 PM
Hated it. Killed Conner, and was responsible for one of the worst things to ever happen to Wonder Woman.

40footwolf
09-13-2009, 05:54 PM
Hated it. Killed Conner, and was responsible for one of the worst things to ever happen to Wonder Woman.

What thing was that?

LordEd1976
09-13-2009, 06:45 PM
I liked it. The end with the Joker and Alexander Luthor Jr. cracked me up.

That was a cool sequence but i would have liked more build-up. We got a nice set-up for it when Joker butchered the Royal Flush Gang but it would have been nice to have one or two more scenes setting it up. Like maybe a scen where Luthor runs into the Joker and says something like "I know how you don't like it when people don't let you play."

ScottyQuick
09-13-2009, 07:18 PM
What thing was that?

"Life is hard. I'm going to abandon my embassy, abandon my apprentice who's boyfriend just died, and travel around the world for a year. Oh, and I'm not human apparently, so I'll go put on a white catsuit and hang out with secret agents to become human."

40footwolf
09-13-2009, 08:03 PM
My impression was that she cast out the Amazons not because "life was hard", but as a last ditch effort to keep them from being slaughtered by OMACs. That doesn't seem so childish to me. Also, that last sentence has to do with things that came after IC, nothing to do with the actual story.

Hawk_fan
09-13-2009, 10:46 PM
I liked the 1st half, but not the 2nd half. Overall I didn't like it.

This Crisis could've cleared up continuity of certain characters that became a mess after COIE, but it didn't. Instead it created more confusion and brought back the multiverse that serves no purpose still. Elseworld stories were better solutions to "creative freedom" than this new multiverse.

However, I'm happy it cleaned up the "Trinity" though that could've been done without the IC.

kalorama
09-13-2009, 11:04 PM
It was a mess. An all-over-the-place corporate initiative/plot device badly masquerading as a story.

Raker616
09-14-2009, 12:16 AM
That being said the battle of metropolis did seem very rushed...probably could have done with another issue focusing on that.

Exactly that was the only bad thing about it, what should have been the highlight of the story was over in a handfull of pages. DC dropped the ball with that they should have at least made the battle of metropolis a oneshot to give it the time that it deserved. Aside from that one big miss, the story overall was very strong and had lots of really good moments for several heroes in the DCU and a much better event that FC was.

paulski
09-14-2009, 02:31 AM
So, did you like Infinite Crisis? Or not?

Loved it. And I'll be breaking out my IC hardcover in the next couple of weeks now that I'm finally starting to make some headway in my trade backlog.

the4thpip
09-14-2009, 02:54 AM
The excessive violence, especially the never-working "i am such a bad ass that I can kill D-list characters" really put me off it.

Nothing personal.

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll102/the4thpip/306016-95686-sandra-knight_super.jpg

Just business.

Also see. GAY FOR JUSTICE.

The Chief5425
09-14-2009, 07:56 AM
A bit of a mess, but an enjoyable mess. I liked it.

Of course, my judgement may be a bit biased because after the turd that was Final Crisis it may look a bit better in my still-smarting eyes. Hell, every crossover event looks a little better in comparison to Final Crisis. Hell, everything ever written--up to and including the grocery list I scribbled out on a piece of scratch paper this morning--looks a little better compared to Final Crisis.

Dave Hackett
09-14-2009, 08:57 AM
It was a mess. Easily the least of the "Crisis Trillogy" of CoIE, IC and FC. Bad characterisation, a messy, ineffectual story and gratuitous violence that didn't add to the story at all. Black Adam murders someone in front of the combined heroes and all he gets is a "Was that necessary?" Ridiculous.

ScottyQuick
09-14-2009, 02:47 PM
My impression was that she cast out the Amazons not because "life was hard", but as a last ditch effort to keep them from being slaughtered by OMACs. That doesn't seem so childish to me. Also, that last sentence has to do with things that came after IC, nothing to do with the actual story.

She was travelling around the world for a year, doing nothing.

40footwolf
09-14-2009, 10:48 PM
It was a mess. Easily the least of the "Crisis Trillogy" of CoIE, IC and FC. Bad characterisation, a messy, ineffectual story and gratuitous violence that didn't add to the story at all. Black Adam murders someone in front of the combined heroes and all he gets is a "Was that necessary?" Ridiculous.
I think what everyone forgets about that scene where Black Adam pushes Psycho Pirate's face out through the other side of his head was that it was ridiculously kickass.

Hulk_Is
09-15-2009, 12:34 AM
*sigh*... Infinite Crisis. I'm thinking I can just read the book like a regular storybook. About 2, or possibly 3 pages in I soon realized, "I'm not going to be able to read this standardly." :frown:

So I literally had to finish reading the borrowed hardcover by looking at the artwork and script like I was age 5! Somehow by reading it this way, I understood it. :confused:

Why does DC comics opt to do this - to put out rather entertaining stories in a most non-reader friendly way? I just read Doom Patrol and it suffered from that same feeling of, "Arrgh! My brain!". :confused:

(I have read DC books that have been easier reads, but still, I do not have this issue with Marvel books.)

Munkiman
09-15-2009, 04:09 PM
*sigh*... Infinite Crisis. I'm thinking I can just read the book like a regular storybook. About 2, or possibly 3 pages in I soon realized, "I'm not going to be able to read this standardly." :frown:

So I literally had to finish reading the borrowed hardcover by looking at the artwork and script like I was age 5! Somehow by reading it this way, I understood it. :confused:

Why does DC comics opt to do this - to put out rather entertaining stories in a most non-reader friendly way? I just read Doom Patrol and it suffered from that same feeling of, "Arrgh! My brain!". :confused:

(I have read DC books that have been easier reads, but still, I do not have this issue with Marvel books.)
What wasn't there to understand? I don't get what you mean by not being able to read it standardly.

Will.S
09-15-2009, 04:40 PM
I think what everyone forgets about that scene where Black Adam pushes Psycho Pirate's face out through the other side of his head was that it was ridiculously kickass.
I thought it was gratuitously violent and added nothing to the story myself.

*sigh*... Infinite Crisis. I'm thinking I can just read the book like a regular storybook. About 2, or possibly 3 pages in I soon realized, "I'm not going to be able to read this standardly." :frown:

So I literally had to finish reading the borrowed hardcover by looking at the artwork and script like I was age 5! Somehow by reading it this way, I understood it. :confused:

Why does DC comics opt to do this - to put out rather entertaining stories in a most non-reader friendly way? I just read Doom Patrol and it suffered from that same feeling of, "Arrgh! My brain!". :confused:

(I have read DC books that have been easier reads, but still, I do not have this issue with Marvel books.)
A lot of build up to the event was done with the various mini series that preceded it such as The OMAC Project, Villains United, Day of Vengeance, and Rann-Thanagar War on top of the "Sacrifice" storyline that ran through the Superman books and Wonder Woman and the Countdown to Final crisis one shot where Ted Kord died.

So without those it's harder to really understand why certain things happened within Infinite Crisis.

Bruce Wayne Jr.
09-15-2009, 05:06 PM
Lovin' every minute of it.

It's the stuff that comes after that bothers me.

40footwolf
09-16-2009, 12:05 AM
I thought it was gratuitously violent and added nothing to the story myself.

And I won't disagree. I'm just saying sticking your fingers in a dude's eye sockets and shoving his face through his head is probably one of the most metal ways you could choose to kill someone, and as long as DC comics are going to be violent and strange they might as well be creative about it.

dumbstruck
09-16-2009, 11:10 AM
I remember liking it at the time. But in retrospect, it was really the vanguard for DC's silver-age nostalgia we've been saddled with.

Carter Hall
09-16-2009, 03:47 PM
Absolutely loved it. I too, loved all the buildup and the story itself. A worthy successor to the original Crisis, and INFINITELY (no pun intended) better than Final Crisis. Great stuff. This event, and its buildup, got me reading comics again on a monthly basis. But I'm also a huge Geoff Johns fan.

The Joker
09-17-2009, 02:20 AM
I felt Infinite Crisis was a fairly solid follow-up to Crisis on Infinite Earths. Yeah, I really enjoyed having the Golden Age E-2 Superman back along with the other Crisis survivors, as well as re-establishing Power Girl as his cousin. The Secret Origins issue going over the turmoil the survivors were going thru in the "paradise dimension" was top notch as well. Sure, I can nit pick some stuff, but overall ... I enjoyed IC quite a bit.

Much more so than Final Crisis.

That's for sure.

dupersuper
09-17-2009, 03:55 AM
I liked it well enough until the confused end. I hear that's better if you read the unabridged trade.