New Batgirl costume.

[galactica]

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/files/2009/09/bg-cv4-copy.jpg

Looks pretty cool. The violet is a nice touch.

[KevinTBrown]

Yuck.

That is ugly.

[the4thpip]

It's practical, like Black Canary's Dixon-era BoP costume.

Which probably means it won't last. But I like it.

[Tadhg]

All I have to say is; thigh pouches?

[MPagar]

I think I threw up a little.

[Cayman]

That's awful. Just as bad as the Nightwing & Flamebird costumes.

[vanityman]

everything about it looks dated already...

bad design all around

[Typo Lad]

Way, way way too busy.

[suedenim]

I can't see any picture, but this being teh Intarweb, that shouldn't stop me from having a strong opinion:

It's an outrage, and I hereby announce that I'm going to stop reading DC comics forever!!1111!!

[fireSTRIKE!]

sucks.....

[KevinTBrown]

I can't see any picture, but this being teh Intarweb, that shouldn't stop me from having a strong opinion:

It's an outrage, and I hereby announce that I'm going to stop reading DC comics forever!!1111!!

Actually, if you take the time to do so, you can see it at http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com.

[Rev. Calibos]

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/files/2009/09/bg-cv4-copy-197x300.jpg

Maybe this will work for those who coudn't see the first picture.


It just looks ridiculous. I understand the violet as it's a throwback to her spoiler costume and if they had kept it on the reverse side of her cape that would be one thing but as it is it's just too much.

And the flowing blond hair? A unique look for a member of the Bat-Family and eye catching but that's the problem, it's eye catching. The most noticeable thing on her uniform is her flowing blond locks, never a good thing when one deals with firearms on a daily basis. The attention should be drawn to the parts that are covered in kevlar.


I don't know, it's early to judge I suppose but just from looking at this cover I'm just puzzled.

It just doesn't look good.

[Reverend Smooth]

I like the coloring style. :D Not sure about that thigh pouch or the striping.

[Crowley]

From Blog@Newsarama:
http://blog.newsarama.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10087/normal_leegarbettbatgirl.jpg

I don't like the thigh pouchs and I hate the boot spikes, but beyond that the design isn't too bad with some tweaks.

I like it better that the gimp like suit that the previous Batgirl wore.

[Matt Algren]

All I have to say is; thigh pouches?
She got them for $3.50 at Superboy's yard sale.

[Rev. Calibos]

I like the coloring style. :D Not sure about that thigh pouch or the striping.


It took me a few minutes to realize what struck me about this costume the most:

It's Ultimate Batgirl. A classic character, a new spin, a radically different, more 'functional' uniform and DC teased a mystery when they presented house ads for the new series. 'Who's the NEW Batgirl? Is it Barbara? Is it Cassandra? Is it just a bunch of ducks in a Batgirl costume?'


And here we are, Ultimate Batgirl. Just have Brian Hitch draw this up and she'd fit right into the Ultimate U.

[Matt Algren]

From Blog@Newsarama:
http://blog.newsarama.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10087/normal_leegarbettbatgirl.jpg

I don't like the thigh pouchs and I hate the boot spikes, but beyond that the design isn't too bad with some tweaks.

I like it better that the gimp like suit that the previous Batgirl wore.
I know it's a stylistic thing, but that belt is going to fall off as soon as she stands up straight.

I don't hate the hair. Actually, I quite prefer that to the baldcap approach. Besides, that's part of Babs's original costume. And I don't hate the purple, I just wish it were more subtle. It looks like an expandable accordion folder on her sides. But yeah, those thigh pouches have got to go.

P.S. Not cool cutting her legs off! If Babs sees this she'll FREAK!

[suedenim]

Hmm, interesting, but I don't think it works. I actually think it'd work better with the colors reversed.

(I like that 2nd sketch better, though, maybe it's just the coloring/lighting that makes the first look bad to me.)

[Typo Lad]

It took me a few minutes to realize what struck me about this costume the most:

It's Ultimate Batgirl. A classic character, a new spin, a radically different, more 'functional' uniform and DC teased a mystery when they presented house ads for the new series. 'Who's the NEW Batgirl? Is it Barbara? Is it Cassandra? Is it just a bunch of ducks in a Batgirl costume?'


And here we are, Ultimate Batgirl. Just have Brian Hitch draw this up and she'd fit right into the Ultimate U.

it looks more like Post ZH LOSH.

[scout1279]

I'm not sure what I think yet. I do like the sketch a lot better than the cover, which makes me think that what I'm having a problem with is the leg spikes.

I think it looks like something that someone who came up with the Spoiler costume would wear, which is good.

[Rev. Calibos]

it looks more like Post ZH LOSH.

It looks like that too, but at least the Legion had the sense to rock two pouches most of the time.

http://image2.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/large/47826168708.0.gif

[West Mantooth]

I guess I'm crazy cause I love it.

[spark627]

I think it works better in the sketch then it does on the cover. The main body has to be black for it to look right IMO.

I dunno, I kinda like it. I feel like it looks like a costume a teen vigilante would wear, even more so, it looks something Stephanie would wear.

[KevinTBrown]

From Blog@Newsarama:
http://blog.newsarama.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10087/normal_leegarbettbatgirl.jpg

I don't like the thigh pouchs and I hate the boot spikes, but beyond that the design isn't too bad with some tweaks.

I like it better that the gimp like suit that the previous Batgirl wore.

The dark purple looks really good, the lavender not so much....

And, yeah, those pouches need to go ASAP!

[spark627]

The dark purple looks really good, the lavender not so much....

And, yeah, those pouches need to go ASAP!

Is it really dark purple with light purple (and yellow) or black with purple? The sketch looks black to me, the cover looks blue, but I think is just highlights.

[K-DoG7p7]

That's awful. Just as bad as the Nightwing & Flamebird costumes.

the first once we saw of the current armor?



Also.. I'm not against it..

and yeah.. its like early BOP Canary...

[Cayman]

the first once we saw of the current armor?



Also.. I'm not against it..

and yeah.. its like early BOP Canary...

The current armor. The costumes they were introduced in were appealing.

[Solaris]

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/files/2009/09/bg-cv4-copy-197x300.jpg

Maybe this will work for those who coudn't see the first picture.


It just looks ridiculous. I understand the violet as it's a throwback to her spoiler costume and if they had kept it on the reverse side of her cape that would be one thing but as it is it's just too much.

And the flowing blond hair? A unique look for a member of the Bat-Family and eye catching but that's the problem, it's eye catching. The most noticeable thing on her uniform is her flowing blond locks, never a good thing when one deals with firearms on a daily basis. The attention should be drawn to the parts that are covered in kevlar.


I don't know, it's early to judge I suppose but just from looking at this cover I'm just puzzled.

It just doesn't look good.


I definitely like the sketch better than this pic, and I agree that the darker purple in the sketch works better than the lighter color in this pic.

Aside from that, if you're going to do pouches, I don't think this is the way for Batgirl. A couple of slim ones built into the outer thigh and/or outer boot works better than these great thick things.

Ditto for the belt, plus the loose-hanging belt may *look* nice, but it's terribly impractical for someone who needs to sneak around (not to mention the color). A loose belt falls off/down, plus gets caught on things, plus is a convenient handle for a bad guy to grab you by.

IMO, when you think "Bat" anything for doing a costume, it should be designed to blend into shadows, be sleek and supple and streamlined---think "ninja commando", heh. I like that they gave her flat boots, but the soles are a bit too clunky. Black and a darker purple are fine---but the yellows and blonde hair, not good. If you want the chest symbol yellow, make it one that will *light up* yellow, that can be turned off for hiding in shadows. Want to scare bad guys with the symbol glowing from darkness, or just look snazzy? Light it up. Want to hide and gen out something, or listen in to bad guy plans, turn it off. Simple.

The best commando outfits for hiding in shadows are shades of grey, btw. I got that from a real commando. :biggrin:

[K-DoG7p7]

The current armor. The costumes they were introduced in were appealing.
well the armor is just a cover.. its just a prop to blend inn while Kryptonians are banned from earth.

[Duxdoom]

yeah. Makes me glad I don't read Batgirl. That costume is pretty bad. All I thought was that she was dressed like Nightwing and Flamebird.

[suedenim]

The best commando outfits for hiding in shadows are shades of grey, btw. I got that from a real commando. :biggrin:

No need to consult a commando, just consult a local cat. My brother had a black cat and a grey cat, who would actually take walks with you (i.e., follow you around). At twilight, the black cat was fairly easy to see, but the grey cat was all but invisible unless he was within 5 feet or so.

[Matt Algren]

No need to consult a commando, just consult a local cat. My brother had a black cat and a grey cat, who would actually take walks with you (i.e., follow you around). At twilight, the black cat was fairly easy to see, but the grey cat was all but invisible unless he was within 5 feet or so.
Orange cats can't hide for shit.

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/funny-pictures-cats-dont-see-you-there-bob.jpg

[K-DoG7p7]

The best commando outfits for hiding in shadows are shades of grey, btw. I got that from a real commando. :biggrin:

Fun fact..

During the early days of WW2 British ships where painted a shade of Pink called "Mountbatten pink" that made them almost impossible to see during sunrise and sunset...

The only problem was that the ships stuck out like a sore thumb at mid day :P
so by the end of 42 they where all painted gray again.

[Linkara]

It's Ultimate Batgirl. A classic character, a new spin, a radically different, more 'functional' uniform and DC teased a mystery when they presented house ads for the new series. 'Who's the NEW Batgirl? Is it Barbara? Is it Cassandra? Is it just a bunch of ducks in a Batgirl costume?'


And here we are, Ultimate Batgirl. Just have Brian Hitch draw this up and she'd fit right into the Ultimate U.

It can't be Ultimate Batgirl. She's not a jerk or an idiot.

[the4thpip]

And the flowing blond hair? A unique look for a member of the Bat-Family and eye catching but that's the problem, it's eye catching. The most noticeable thing on her uniform is her flowing blond locks, never a good thing when one deals with firearms on a daily basis. The attention should be drawn to the parts that are covered in kevlar.


It might be a bulletproof wig, you know.

[Nate Grey]

I think it's make a better update for a Spoiler costume than a Batgirl costume. I couldn't even see Cass wearing that.

[Matt Algren]

The hair isn't that unique, really. Batwoman has a red wig and Babs had red hair waving around.

[Rev. Calibos]

It might be a bulletproof wig, you know.

This is true....it could very well be 'unbe-weave-able'.

I definitely like the sketch better than this pic, and I agree that the darker purple in the sketch works better than the lighter color in this pic.

Aside from that, if you're going to do pouches, I don't think this is the way for Batgirl. A couple of slim ones built into the outer thigh and/or outer boot works better than these great thick things.

Ditto for the belt, plus the loose-hanging belt may *look* nice, but it's terribly impractical for someone who needs to sneak around (not to mention the color). A loose belt falls off/down, plus gets caught on things, plus is a convenient handle for a bad guy to grab you by.

IMO, when you think "Bat" anything for doing a costume, it should be designed to blend into shadows, be sleek and supple and streamlined---think "ninja commando", heh. I like that they gave her flat boots, but the soles are a bit too clunky. Black and a darker purple are fine---but the yellows and blonde hair, not good. If you want the chest symbol yellow, make it one that will *light up* yellow, that can be turned off for hiding in shadows. Want to scare bad guys with the symbol glowing from darkness, or just look snazzy? Light it up. Want to hide and gen out something, or listen in to bad guy plans, turn it off. Simple.

The best commando outfits for hiding in shadows are shades of grey, btw. I got that from a real commando. :biggrin:


A good analysis. The only thing I would add to that is the notion that while what we would consider to be stealthy, ninja like outfits, outfits appropriate for what folks like Bruce, Tim, Dick, etc. do on a nightly basis, there is also that 'cowardly lot' factor as well.


The most practical outfit would be ninja garb without the frills like pointed masks and flowing capes.

The reason for those, in my opinion at least, is that they want the criminals they face to wonder 'What in the blue hell is THAT?' whenever they see them swoop in and start doing their thing.

That's part of why I was so impressed with Cassandra's outfit (although it took some time to get used to).

It's genuinely creepy. You can almost imagine upon her debut seeing her take out a criminal and having him think 'WTF was that that just kicked me in the face?'

Bruce and Co. have spent a large chunk of their lives building the urban legend of 'The Bat' and the Bat-Family. There should, again, in my opinion, be a heated debate for criminals throughout the city on whether Batman, Robin, etc. are actually human or not.

Costumes like this are sort of counter intuitive to that notion of 'half man/half bat' mythos that Bats and everyone are trying to put out there.

[scout1279]

I think it's make a better update for a Spoiler costume than a Batgirl costume. I couldn't even see Cass wearing that.

I couldn't see Babs wearing the costume Cass wore, so I'm not sure how that's relevant since it's not Cass wearing it.

[Nate Grey]

I couldn't see Babs wearing the costume Cass wore, so I'm not sure how that's relevant since it's not Cass wearing it.

Meant to show no bias since I'm a Cass fan. The outfit is ugly no matter who's wearing it.

[suedenim]

The reason for those, in my opinion at least, is that they want the criminals they face to wonder 'What in the blue hell is THAT?' whenever they see them swoop in and start doing their thing.


Note that this was actually the rationale behind the outfit worn by Gotham City's first costumed mystery man, the Green Lantern.

(Seriously, it's in his very first appearance, he says something along the lines of "This costume is so garish, all the crooks will be all WTF, LOL!" So to speak.)

[AaronJ]

I don't see it as being any more "horrible" or "awesome" than most costumes. After a while, honestly, they tend to blend together.

I've never really understood any argument made on "practicality" grounds, when it comes to super-hero costumes. But that's me.

They're almost all totally impractical, anyways. Practicality has never seemed very important.

[Tom]

It's a little awkward, but looking at the cover vs. the sketch it's clear that it's all about how it's drawn. I'm more thrown off by the fact that Batgirl, Supergirl and Wonder Girl all look like the same character now. Weird.

[Nate Grey]

It's a little awkward, but looking at the cover vs. the sketch it's clear that it's all about how it's drawn. I'm more thrown off by the fact that Batgirl, Supergirl and Wonder Girl all look like the same character now. Weird.

Blondes sell comics?

[AaronJ]

It's a little awkward, but looking at the cover vs. the sketch it's clear that it's all about how it's drawn. I'm more thrown off by the fact that Batgirl, Supergirl and Wonder Girl all look like the same character now. Weird.

So, when you were in HS, you weren't able to tell any of the blondes with long hair apart?

[Typo Lad]

Not if they all were basically drawn on the same model.

It's like the old Marvel gag - "spot this character in his secret ID!"

The images were Hawkeye, Hank Pym, Captain America, and a couple of other blond haired, blue eyed heroes. All drawn by George Perez with the same exact facial features and hairstyle.

[Tom]

So, when you were in HS, you weren't able to tell any of the blondes with long hair apart?

Uh...I have no idea why my comment sparked such snarkiness, but when I was in high school, I went to school with living people, not drawings.

[Rev. Calibos]

To be honest I was going to avoid this title like the plague because, in my mind at least, DC already has a competent Batgirl ready to rock, a Batgirl who's proven to be strong enough a character to support her own book, Cassandra.


But I'm always willing to give things a new try.

So I picked up issue 1.

It's not bad. I wondered why Babs was there but I realized that, for someone like Cassandra, she doesn't necessarily need to give her any sort of training as Cass can handle herself.

But Spoiler?


I'm liking this idea of Barbara taking a hand in training a new Batgirl.

If only she could help her come up with a better costume......

[K-DoG7p7]

It's a little awkward, but looking at the cover vs. the sketch it's clear that it's all about how it's drawn. I'm more thrown off by the fact that Batgirl, Supergirl and Wonder Girl all look like the same character now. Weird.

why not go even further and list all Teen blonds in the DCU

[Mister Blisterfists]

All I have to say is; thigh pouches?

all I have to say is "Belt Purse"?

[DubipR]

Yeesh!
That's some fugly looking costume design. Thigh pouches and purple lining panelling on the side? Someone consult Liefeld or something?

[AaronJ]

Uh...I have no idea why my comment sparked such snarkiness, but when I was in high school, I went to school with living people, not drawings.

I wasn't trying to be snarky at all. I'm sorry. But I really wasn't.

But saying that because they are all blondes with long hair, they look the same -- it implies that any blonde with long hair cannot be differentiated from any other blonde with long hair.

[Nate Grey]

Yeesh!
That's some fugly looking costume design. Thigh pouches and purple lining panelling on the side? Someone consult Liefeld or something?

LOL I knew it reminded me of something but I couldn't put my finger on it. She has feet though so its not him.

[Black Atom]

I like it, actually. The hair seems a bit cliche at this point (isn't Batwoman already doing that?*) and it seems like a big step back in "scare-factor" from Cassandra Cain's batsuit, but I like it otherwise.

*what happened to all that "making room for Batwoman business" anyhow? I'm not sure we need two Bat-chicks in addition to a fill-in Batman.

[Nick Soapdish]

I agree with those that are saying that it's just too busy.

The purple siding and purple on the cape is fine, although I like the shades in the sketch better than the cover. But the ribbing, extra pouches and flowing hair is too much. Steph always went with a hood for her Spoiler costume so why's she ditching that now?

[Tom]

I wasn't trying to be snarky at all. I'm sorry. But I really wasn't.

But saying that because they are all blondes with long hair, they look the same -- it implies that any blonde with long hair cannot be differentiated from any other blonde with long hair.

That would be true in the real world, but most comics art is very simplistic and when you have three blue-eyed teenage girls with killer bodies and shoulder-length blonde hair drawn in a typical superhero art style, they're pretty much indistinguishable except for the costumes.

It's not a complaint. It's just an observation. It strikes me as odd only because the three original versions of the characters had distinct looks and never would have been confused for each other.

[Black Atom]

I wasn't trying to be snarky at all. I'm sorry. But I really wasn't.

But saying that because they are all blondes with long hair, they look the same -- it implies that any blonde with long hair cannot be differentiated from any other blonde with long hair.

If all three were drawn in their civilian clothes, how, pray tell, would you go about telling them apart?

[Nate Grey]

If all three were drawn in their civilian clothes, how, pray tell, would you go about telling them apart?

I thought diana_fan was talking about real life blondes, and assumed Tom was, too. Despite clarifying twice.

[AaronJ]

That would be true in the real world, but most comics art is very simplistic and when you have three blue-eyed teenage girls with killer bodies and shoulder-length blonde hair drawn in a typical superhero art style, they're pretty much indistinguishable except for the costumes.

It's not a complaint. It's just an observation. It strikes me as odd only because the three original versions of the characters had distinct looks and never would have been confused for each other.

Well, they were distinct in that one was a redhead, one a brunette, and the other a blonde.

If all three were drawn in their civilian clothes, how, pray tell, would you go about telling them apart?

Well, if they're drawn properly?

Kara's taller than Stephanie, and maybe even a bit taller than Cassie. Kara is also just a tad thinner than Cassie, with a different body type overall (more coltish).

And even someone like Benes, about whom many say he draws the same faces on everyone, tends to draw Kara and Cassie as looking differently enough from one and other that they are discernible.

I dunno ... guess we're getting pretty far afield from the original topic anyways.


I think the costume is a bit busy, but whatever. It's not terrible or anything.

[Tom]

I thought diana_fan was talking about real life blondes, and assumed Tom was, too. Despite clarifying twice.

How on earth could you come to that conclusion? None of them ARE real women. I specifically said they all look like the same "character."

[Tom]

Well, they were distinct in that one was a redhead, one a brunette, and the other a blonde.

Right. That's my whole point.

[Nate Grey]

How on earth could you come to that conclusion? None of them ARE real women. I specifically said they all look like the same "character."

Um, I assumed diana_fan assumed that, not that I myself assumed it. The "despite clarifying it twice" should have been a clue to that.

[Nick Soapdish]

That would be true in the real world, but most comics art is very simplistic and when you have three blue-eyed teenage girls with killer bodies and shoulder-length blonde hair drawn in a typical superhero art style, they're pretty much indistinguishable except for the costumes.

It's not a complaint. It's just an observation. It strikes me as odd only because the three original versions of the characters had distinct looks and never would have been confused for each other.

It depends on the artist. Todd Nauck was very good about keeping Cissie and Cassie looking different, even when out of costume. You can probably throw Greta in there as well. And Steph since she appeared a couple times. With some artists you have to distinguish by height or boob size (maybe, but it might be the difference between big and huge) when they're out of costume.

[Eliseu Gouveia]

Too busy...

[Michael P]

Right. That's my whole point.

Different hairstyles, too. Supergirl had a short, sort of curly look. Batgirl was shoulder-length and straight. Wonder Girl was quite long, and often in a ponytail.

[thespianphryne]

Question: Is this particular Batgirl left-handed?

[Michael P]

Question: Is this particular Batgirl left-handed?

Only Tim Drake knows for sure.

Well, and one other guy, I guess.

[thespianphryne]

I mean, thigh pouches...ok, fine. But it defeats the purpose if they're on the opposite side of your dominant hand.

[NickThompson]

I like it. I actually have a City of Heroes character in a quite similar outfit :smile:

[NickThompson]

Yeesh!
That's some fugly looking costume design. Thigh pouches and purple lining panelling on the side? Someone consult Liefeld or something?

What about purple lining panelling is Liefeld-esque?

[Alan2099]

I like it better that the gimp like suit that the previous Batgirl wore.
I have to say that if nothing else, I'm glad to see the gimp suit go. I always hated that look.

'Who's the NEW Batgirl? Is it Barbara? Is it Cassandra? Is it just a bunch of ducks in a Batgirl costume?'
Could this mean the return of Batduck? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSPMrlY8IfQ&feature=player_embedded#t=58)

P.S. Not cool cutting her legs off! If Babs sees this she'll FREAK!
That's part of the next upcoming storyline. Babs goes nuts and starts crippling the other bat family members.

Meant to show no bias since I'm a Cass fan. The outfit is ugly no matter who's wearing it.
So was Cass's outfit. What's your point?

[Nate Grey]

So was Cass's outfit. What's your point?

Asked and answered given the context. You like it, I don't. Life goes on.

[Rev. Calibos]

Could this mean the return of Batduck? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSPMrlY8IfQ&feature=player_embedded#t=58)



You!

I'm watching this now, where's the 'I'm not worthy' Smilie, lol?

[Tadhg]

I mean, thigh pouches...ok, fine.


Not okay or fine at all.

[Rev. Calibos]

Not okay or fine at all.

Why?

It's competely functional. Why do you think that US military folks make use of BDU pockets?

[hellokittykat]

While I like purple a lot, I don't think that it should be on the costume. If Stephanie is Batgirl now, then be Batgirl, not Spoiler-Batgirl. I do like that you can see her hair now though.

[shrike]

http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/files/2009/09/bg-cv4-copy.jpg

Looks pretty cool. The violet is a nice touch.

The colors together are hideous, imo.

Not a good look. Liefeld is gonna be coming after those pouches on her thigh, as well.

edit: Interesting that she is fighting some Frank Miller punks.

[spark627]

I made this revision VERY quickly, but based on the Lee's sketches and comments on color... this is how the costume should look. It sounds like the cover wasn't colored correctly. I like this quite a bit...

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/spark627/bg-cv4-copyrevised.jpg

[veracity]

I made this revision VERY quickly, but based on the Lee's sketches and comments on color... this is how the costume should look. It sounds like the cover wasn't colored correctly. I like this quite a bit...

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/spark627/bg-cv4-copyrevised.jpg

That's what I imagined it to be since the entire first picture is bleeding cyan worse than Leona Lewis's love.

[Adam C]

It's a little awkward, but looking at the cover vs. the sketch it's clear that it's all about how it's drawn. I'm more thrown off by the fact that Batgirl, Supergirl and Wonder Girl all look like the same character now. Weird.

...

BBRRREEEEEEEEEEEE!

[Alan2099]

Hasn't Spoiler always had the poiuches on her leg?

[spark627]

On his blog, Lee said DC asked him to include the band on he leg since Spoiler had it. Check his blog, it has some good info

leegarbett.blogspot.com/

[The Xenos]

You know. I'm find with Steph in the role. Well, begrudgingly accept. I'd much rather see Steph next to Cass in costume or along side her. I was really hoping for that. Yet abandoning the great sleek black costume that's been around for, what, ten years now? I don't think they needed to modify it this much.

Someone on the bat board said it looked like Flamebird and Nightwing. For some reason I was thinking that. I don't even read the damn Superman New Krypton stuff, but I'd seen them on the covers.
It's a little awkward, but looking at the cover vs. the sketch it's clear that it's all about how it's drawn. I'm more thrown off by the fact that Batgirl, Supergirl and Wonder Girl all look like the same character now. Weird.
Someone in the bat board topic complained that people brought up the race issue. Yet, can you really blame them. I said the same thing. As much as I like Steph did we really need another blonde haired blue eyed main character, main female character in DCU's head lineup? I was looking at the Adam Hughes women of the DCU poster. Lot's of blonde women on there. Supergirl might as well have been Steph. And I didn't even think of Cassie / Wonder Girl.
All I have to say is; thigh pouches?
Okay. Who let Rob Liefeld sneak into the DC offices? :rolleyes:

[AaronJ]

I was looking at the Adam Hughes women of the DCU poster. Lot's of blonde women on there. Supergirl might as well have been Steph. And I didn't even think of Cassie / Wonder Girl.

Oh, NO you din't!!!! :mad:

[Reverend Smooth]

After some ponderings, I like it.

http://image3.examiner.com/images/blog/EXID6770/images/batgirlcover.jpg
Looks like the cyan was a bad transfer? I found this elsewhere.

[Spiffy]

At least this new costume makes it clear who's actually wearing it. That's SLIGHT progress.

[IvCNuB4]

It's okay. it's unique, and not just another rehash of Bruce's or Babs' old outfits.

Could be worse. Could be a bat t-shirt and jeans :biggrin:

[Spiffy]

It's okay. it's unique, and not just another rehash of Bruce's or Babs' old outfits.
It DOES bear a partial resemblance to certain versions of Movie Bats though. Other than the purple stuff on the side, I mean.

[invisiboy]

It's okay. it's unique, and not just another rehash of Bruce's or Babs' old outfits.


Really? To me, it looks basically the same as Babs' Batgirl suit. It's simply recolored and given some texture. If the rendering were done in classic Batgirl colors with red hair, she'd look just like the original batgirl. I see this as more a throwback than a fresh look. Still, I find it more visually appealing than Helena and Cass's Batgirl costume.

It is rather funny that Wonder Girl, Supergirl and Batgirl all look alike. Apparently, all girls are blonde. (A far cry from when Batgirl was a redhead, Supergirl was a blonde, and Wonder Girl was a brunette.) That's Didio's DC: Never looking at the big picture.

[PatrickG]

It's okay. it's unique, and not just another rehash of Bruce's or Babs' old outfits.

Could be worse. Could be a bat t-shirt and jeans :biggrin:

Honestly, I'd dig that more as it would be a pretty ballsy move to have a Batgirl with no secret identity. That would be pretty radical by Gotham standards.

I like the IDEA of purple in the costume only because I dug Yvonne Craig and the version from The Batman.

Would have preferred they just go purple/black/yellow as the color scheme rather than go for the extreme sports padding.

Always wanted Batman himself to get the yellow Bat-symbol. Seems like a more efficient take both on the "new look" emblem and Miller's idea that his chest is armored and so he wants people to shoot there. I'd probably reverse the blue/black and grey too because I imagine that, as a magician, Batman wants you to get distracted by what he does with his hands and feet. Similar to how magicians wear white gloves.

[PatrickG]

It's okay. it's unique, and not just another rehash of Bruce's or Babs' old outfits.


Really? To me, it looks basically the same as Babs' Batgirl suit. It's simply recolored and given some texture. If the rendering were done in classic Batgirl colors with red hair, she'd look just like the original batgirl. I see this as more a throwback than a fresh look. Still, I find it more visually appealing than Helena and Cass's Batgirl costume.

It is rather funny that Wonder Girl, Supergirl and Batgirl all look alike. Apparently, all girls are blonde. (A far cry from when Batgirl was a redhead, Supergirl was a blonde, and Wonder Girl was a brunette.) That's Didio's DC: Never looking at the big picture.

On the flipside, I can finally say I'd be able to enjoy a light, Young Justice style book with these three icons. Cass appealed to a lot of people but she just didn't scream FUN enough. I think a Batgirl should.

I think Batman should too but I'm more accustomed to losing that battle.

[suedenim]

It is rather funny that Wonder Girl, Supergirl and Batgirl all look alike. Apparently, all girls are blonde. (A far cry from when Batgirl was a redhead, Supergirl was a blonde, and Wonder Girl was a brunette.) That's Didio's DC: Never looking at the big picture.

Blue Beetle's friend Brenda made a remark to that effect, how the "visiting school" (of undercover Teen Titans) with all the gorgeous tall blonde girls was obviously from Albachusetts. She hates Albachusetts.

[invisiboy]

Always wanted Batman himself to get the yellow Bat-symbol.

Historically, the Batman symbol is black and the Batgirl symbol is yellow. I recall back during No Man's Land when yellow bat symbols were being spraypainted across Gotham and no one knew who was doing it. immediately I knew it was Batgirl, because it was a yellow bat.

[The Xenos]

It is rather funny that Wonder Girl, Supergirl and Batgirl all look alike. Apparently, all girls are blonde. (A far cry from when Batgirl was a redhead, Supergirl was a blonde, and Wonder Girl was a brunette.) That's Didio's DC: Never looking at the big picture.
Yeah. I know it should be a minor thing, but filling the major female sidekicks / younger heros with blonde girls does seem a bit odd. You do need to step back and see what you're doing.

Hell, you might as well just name them all Heather. Or Debbie.

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/1072/debbies.jpg

Blue Beetle's friend Brenda made a remark to that effect, how the "visiting school" (of undercover Teen Titans) with all the gorgeous tall blonde girls was obviously from Albachusetts. She hates Albachusetts.I would like to move from Massachusetts to Albachusetts. Lower taxes I'm sure for one. Plus Alba looks horrible as a blonde.

[Fuzzyratt]

Have to say this is the first time I have seen the new look and

I really like it alot.

Based alot of the orginal with more update stuff. Love that they have her hair out.
and that they are using her purple in it.

Honestly don't think it could be any better.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

My 2 cents..... Ok not a bad design. I actually like the homage to Steph's "Spoiler" days with the purple lining in the cape and on the sides. My main nitpicks....


1.) The thigh pouch....not really doing it for me here.

2.) Instead of a yellow oval inside the Batman symbol .,...why not the purple ...to match the whole lining of the cape and sides of the costume ? Makes sense...

[hellokittykat]

My 2 cents..... Ok not a bad design. I actually like the homage to Steph's "Spoiler" days with the purple lining in the cape and on the sides. My main nitpicks....


1.) The thigh pouch....not really doing it for me here.

2.) Instead of a yellow oval inside the Batman symbol .,...why not the purple ...to match the whole lining of the cape and sides of the costume ? Makes sense...

I agree, if they are gonna have a Spoiler aspect to it, then the purple symbol would be better.

[Fuzzyratt]

I agree, if they are gonna have a Spoiler aspect to it, then the purple symbol would be better.

Well, at one point the Batsymbol was to create a target where the armor was the best so not to get shot where the armor was to thin. Not saying that is what they are going for with this one but, the yellow does stand out more then purple would.

Plus, it matches her hair :smile:

[Free-Man]

On the flipside, I can finally say I'd be able to enjoy a light, Young Justice style book with these three icons. Cass appealed to a lot of people but she just didn't scream FUN enough. I think a Batgirl should.



And yet her book sold enough to last 70 issues. Clearly, Batgirl doesn't need to scream fun.

[The Xenos]

FYI. THe newest Toyfare shows that DC Direct is already making a figure.

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/1641/toyfarestephbatgirl5437.th.jpg (http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/1641/toyfarestephbatgirl5437.jpg)

[carabas]

And yet her book sold enough to last 70 issues. Clearly, Batgirl doesn't need to scream fun.It sold enough to last a good deal more. It was well above cancelation point when it was canceled, and actually slightly increasing.

[kid_mash]

It's okay. it's unique, and not just another rehash of Bruce's or Babs' old outfits.


Really? To me, it looks basically the same as Babs' Batgirl suit. It's simply recolored and given some texture. If the rendering were done in classic Batgirl colors with red hair, she'd look just like the original batgirl. I see this as more a throwback than a fresh look. Still, I find it more visually appealing than Helena and Cass's Batgirl costume.

It is rather funny that Wonder Girl, Supergirl and Batgirl all look alike. Apparently, all girls are blonde. (A far cry from when Batgirl was a redhead, Supergirl was a blonde, and Wonder Girl was a brunette.) That's Didio's DC: Never looking at the big picture.

Is it any funnier than Bats Supes and Wondey all being brunettes?

[hellokittykat]

FYI. THe newest Toyfare shows that DC Direct is already making a figure.

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/1641/toyfarestephbatgirl5437.th.jpg (http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/1641/toyfarestephbatgirl5437.jpg)

The colors on the doll look better.

Or then maybe I'm just more immature than I thought, and still really like toys. :redface: :biggrin:

[CutterMike]

The colors on the doll look better.

Or then maybe I'm just more immature than I thought, and still really like toys. :redface: :biggrin:

Y'know... I was just thinking that I liked the look better in the figure than in the drawings.

It actually has a sort of "Huntress-Lite" look here which, for Steph, is not a bad thing.

[Ghost]

Well, as a superhero costume, it's pretty nice. It has a classic look that doesn't take itself too seriously, but without going as far as getting silly.

I don't mind the thigh-pouches in themselves, but I think they should have been black or purple as to not stand out too much. Making them yellow is kinda like screaming: "Look! Tigh-pouches!"

[invisiboy]

"It actually has a sort of "Huntress-Lite" look"

I agree. If you remove the cowl and bat symbol, you pretty much have a Huntress outfit.

[spark627]

I love the action figure, I just hope they fix the placement of the bat logo and fix her sleeves for production.

[Matt Algren]

Only slightly related, but can I just say that I LOVE the modified batsymbol on the ARKHAM ASYLUM video game?

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/613oRPx3ceL._SS350_.jpg

[The Xenos]

FYI. THe newest Toyfare shows that DC Direct is already making a figure.
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/1641/toyfarestephbatgirl5437.th.jpg (http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/1641/toyfarestephbatgirl5437.jpg)The colors on the doll look better. It's not a doll.. IT'S AN ACTION FIGURE! :mad: http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/3513/redlantern992s.gif :mad:

[invisiboy]

" It's not a doll.. IT'S AN ACTION FIGURE! "

I am sorry to tell everyone this, but all action figures are dolls. :)

From dictionary.com:

doll  /dɒl/
–noun 1. a small figure representing a baby or other human being, esp. for use as a child's toy.

[The Xenos]

but.. but... they... they're not.. -nerd spasms-

-horrendous flash back-
-dad walks into his room-
"Goddamn it son! Quit playing with your dolls and go kick a football! Did I get a son or a damn daughter!"
"Noooo! Dad! Nooooooo!"

-huddles into corner-

[carabas]

" It's not a doll.. IT'S AN ACTION FIGURE! "

I am sorry to tell everyone this, but all action figures are dolls. :)

From dictionary.com:

doll  /dɒl/
–noun 1. a small figure representing a baby or other human being, esp. for use as a child's toy.Most action figures are not made to be used as a child's toy.

[The Xenos]

Wait.. you mean... you can use action figures... as.. adult toys?

[invisiboy]

Most action figures are not made to be used as a child's toy.


I disagree. The adult collector market for action figures is much smaller than the one for children. Your local Walmart, Toys R Us and Target will have tons more action figures in their aisles than your LCS. A few may be for adults but most are for kids. Also, the production runs of DC Direct and Marvel select figures are much smaller than, say, Hasbro and Mattel, who mostly cater to kids.

Regardless, action figures are dolls.

[Eliseu Gouveia]

Most action figures are not made to be used as a child's toy.


Yeah?

Well, you try to grab the Yuna, Tidus and Rikku do...er, action figures from my nieces.
They´ll bite your hand clean off. :biggrin:

[ScottyQuick]

Yeah?

Well, you try to grab the Yuna, Tidus and Rikku do...er, action figures from my nieces.
They´ll bite your hand clean off. :biggrin:

Man, I want a Rikku doll!

[ponset]

It's not a doll.. IT'S AN ACTION FIGURE! :mad: http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/3513/redlantern992s.gif :mad:

COOL!!!
I need that, like, Yesterday.
Overall I like the colors. One less belt would be a plus.