exiles #6 spoilers & review

[nightw1ng]

well, that was definitely a lot to absorb for one issue. obviously, with the series being cancelled, jeff parker wraps up everything as neatly as he could while still adding his own touch. there's a lot of exposition that deals with explaining the multiverse, time travel, and the premise of the exiles.

- as in the previews, the exiles knock out the other wanda in her bedroom and exiles wanda impersonates her. exiles-wanda reveals to jean that scott is having an affair with emma. she catches them and starts a war that fractures the mutant kingdom by calling in all their friends to help (either by asking or telepathic coercion). wanda rejoins the team. after an explosion in the building the exiles are in, emma and banshee (a gen x nod?) catch a dazed wanda in her bedroom. furious at her for revealing her secret and ending her relationship with scott, she turns diamond and snaps her neck. the exiles (including wanda) see all this, and with their mission completed, are whisked away by morph.

- they get a 24 hour break on a peaceful world and morph explains the rift between the 2 telepaths on the previous world cause the mutants to splinter away from genosha. that would end up saving their lives because humankind would have eventually nuked them while they were all together. their next mission will be taking place on a world where they are stuck in the 70s and the exiles need to get them to progress so they'll be prepared to repel an eventual skrull invasion. right before they teleport there, black panther places a small device on blink's tallus.

- the exiles materialize back in the field they originally all met in. blink is surprised and then knocked out by bp's wankandan nerve pinch. (apparently, the others figured out blink knew more than she let on.) as they look around, they see the Crystal Palace/Panoptichron and enter. morph pops back in to see blink waking up. she goes after them. inside the palace, the exiles see images on the walls of other exiles teams. (there's some funny images such as a crying captain america or teams being chosen by the impossible man or howard the duck.) blink finds them and comes clean. the tallus then takes them to the control room.

- the nu-exiles come face-to-face with original exiles morph, heather hudson, and nocturne! they explain what's going on and say that they were pulled back into action. they thought it was claremont's former team calling them back but it turns out... they've all been put in stasis in the walls of the crystal palace! sage, sabretooth, mystiq, gambit, rogue, and valeria richards are all in the wall. (sage or claremont fans are not going to be happy.)

- suddenly, the crystal palace comes alive and takes the shape of a giant woman. out of its mouth pops out a female kang and says she's the one who called them back. she gives a (very, very) long explanation of the multiverse and why the exiles exist. turns out you become part of the panoptichron if you are there for a long time, which is what happened to claremont's exiles. morph was saved because it absorbed proteus from him instead. it was also that act that awakened female kang from its collective consciousness.

- while being connected to the panoptichron, forge uses his powers to reveal what happened on their respective worlds after they died. most of them turned out for the better. in forge's world, thing are better because they developed without relying on his intelligence. on bp's world, his death spurs his father out of retirement and his sister ends up being the greatest bp ever. on polaris' world, her father becomes a major force for good. beast regains his intelligence as a side effect of being connected, but the major revelation is that he's gay (i guess on his world, morrison really meant it) and that he was in love with wonder man.

- the original exiles each decide to train and lead their own team of exiles and nocturne joins the nu-exiles in blink's place (she also asks heather to send word to thunderbird she'll be back soon). the nu-exiles teleport to their new mission on another world. while waiting for kang to gather info, beast theorizes that changing things in each world also will eventually change who's the guiding force. the timebroker, the bugs, the couple. they were all in charge at one point and someone else will be after female kang.

- wanda asks what the point of it all is if the nature of the job keeps changing. someone (presumably beast) says you just have to deal with it like the rest of life - you can only deal with what you're given at the moment. polaris brings up that they never saw what happened to wanda's world and she says it doesn't matter because they think she's dead anyway, and as the others run off she goes into soliloquy "because emma frost killed 'me.'" (dun dun DUN, one final twist that exiles-wanda was the one killed instead. it's not an exiles without the death of a team member) she rejoins the team shouting "Go Exiles!"

i thought parker did an excellent job. he tied up every loose end while still acknowledging everything that went on before. and he keeps things as they were so someday exiles could be brought back. the art also is top notch. exiles fans should be pleased. sage fans, probably not so much.

[darknessatnoon]

This Was A Complete Piece Of Crap.

[Home made ectoplasm]

Is Beast a top or a bottom?

[RolandJP]

I think Parker did a great job tying up what he had to, and also making it possible for a revamp.

Beast is not a top or a bottom, he is Diagonal..like me.

[worstblogever]

I like that "Exiles Beast" will here to fore be known as "Gay Beast".


Other than that revelation, I agree with darknessatnoon. It seemed obvious that pushing a big reveal in so fast here made all the fate at the Crystal Palace stuff really, really sudden and random.

And I mean, other than Sage, you'd think I'd be totally okay with the New Exiles cast being walled up like victims in an Edgar Allen Poe story (without the drama). But no, this kind of was a blatant "abort!" tale where they tried tying up loose ends caused by early cancellation, just hoping they could rehash it later, when they actually give this book a chance (if they do).

[worstblogever]

Is Beast a top or a bottom?

I think he likes to switch it up. But he did try and bite Modok's face to avenge his lover. What does that qualify as?

[AcesX1X]

....i think what happened to sage was both shameless and rude.

is jeff parker trying to take a subtle jab at nation x, or is he paying homage to e is for extinction?

[NewMutant]

I'm confused... what happened to Sage?

[jester1436]

It's not Parker's fault that Sage is trapped in a wall. These are just further repercussions of the "Exiles" franchise being devalued following "New Exiles" and no options being left open in ending the whole book.

Poor Sage, she should not be a casualty though. Still, "haw haw" at AoA Sabretooth.

[quillero]

I'm confused... what happened to Sage?

She went from being a building to just part of its decoration.

[nightw1ng]

I'm confused... what happened to Sage?
she's been absorbed into the panoptichron and part of its collective consciousness along with the rest of claremont's exiles. i guess the word to use for her is "inert"

[AcesX1X]

jeff parker could have easily left sage on the outside of that wall, or a number of other things as an alternative to wrap this series up.

this turn of events was wholly unimaginative.

[worstblogever]

Still, "haw haw" at AoA Sabretooth.

But what are they thinking putting someone that marketable in a wall like that? The money they're throwing away! :redface:

[Azure]

Not Sage, was Diana Fox. Just happened to look like Sage. Real Sage walked away from the situation, disinterested. Diana Fox stuck in wall. Sorted.

[worstblogever]

Not Sage, was Diana Fox. Just happened to look like Sage. Real Sage walked away from the situation, disinterested. Diana Fox stuck in wall. Sorted.

This is the best thing you've ever posted. Yes, Diana Fox deserves to be walled up like it was "Cask of the Amontillado". Sadly, Sage should be the one who got to lay the bricks and mortar to do so.

[Home made ectoplasm]

This is the best thing you've ever posted. Yes, Diana Fox deserves to be walled up like it was "Cask of the Amontillado". Sadly, Sage should be the one who got to lay the bricks and mortar to do so.

Lol, kinda a mean sideswipe at The Darkstar Wars, WBE, but yes, this postulation seems logical.

[RolandJP]

I'm confused... what happened to Sage?

She was defragged, then partitioned. Windows Vista style.

[AcesX1X]

you know, it's all just really sad. this series started off with real potential, and yeah, it was disappointing to hear it was cancelled so early in its run. maybe/probably this had something to do with an unfair association to CC's previous exiles.

either way, jeff parker had an opportunity to at least end his series with some dignity, or even a clever touch-off, but instead chose to make his personal mark on the overall exiles run as inconsequential and unimportant as this particular chapter turned out to be.

[DanDeRuff]

- the nu-exiles come face-to-face with original exiles morph, heather hudson, and nocturne! they explain what's going on and say that they were pulled back into action. they thought it was claremont's former team calling them back but it turns out... they've all been put in stasis in the walls of the crystal palace! sage, sabretooth, mystiq, gambit, rogue, and valeria richards are all in the wall. (sage or claremont fans are not going to be happy.)


That makes it worth the price of admission alone. I would pay $4.99 just to have that page.

[worstblogever]

I'm still trying to figure out what the hell the point of female Kang was. THAT is supposed to be the person they trust? And she's an improvement on Sage being the force behind the Crystal Palace?

By the way, this makes Roma look like a self-important nooch, too. She set Sage up to be like, her house-sitter, but failed to tell her all the bells and whistles that keep you from becoming like, part of the walls.

Also, seeing the rest of the Exiles react to being betrayed by Blink, and kept in the dark by just signing right back on, anyway was pretty anti-climactic.

[darknessatnoon]

Psylocke broke the Exiles rules. I think she needs to be locked into a wall as well.

[RolandJP]

Psylocke broke the Exiles rules. I think she needs to be locked into a wall as well.

I cant believe I am typing this. I agree with you.

[tornshattered]

This Was A Complete Piece Of Crap.


No It Wasn't.

[worstblogever]

Psylocke broke the Exiles rules. I think she needs to be locked into a wall as well.

She was locked in a bondage machine by Maddie Pryor for an issue. More so, it was the figurative wall that Fraction's characterization of her and Land's art created. I'd say she's still there, but Yost has dibs on her next, I believe. I think that's an escape from being "bricked up".

[darknessatnoon]

No It Wasn't.

Don't reply to my posts. I thought that was implicit.

[Home made ectoplasm]

Logan is Rachel's father. Also, Polaris? Lame.

[darknessatnoon]

As a sidenote: on one of the alternate Exiles teams, we saw classic Hellfire Tessa as a member.

[tornshattered]

Logan is Rachel's father. Also, Polaris? Lame.

Whatever.
.

[Azure]

Lol, kinda a mean sideswipe at The Darkstar Wars, WBE, but yes, this postulation seems logical.

I know, right? But anyway, according to TDW Sage is now managing and overseeing Uatu The Watcher, and so far I've heard nothing to suggest that this isn't canon.

[.LuckyStar.]

Ugh. "Kang" doesn't make any sense. Psylocke and Beak were exiles too and they're fine. Whatever.

[worstblogever]

I know, right? But anyway, according to TDW Sage is now managing and overseeing Uatu The Watcher, and so far I've heard nothing to suggest that this isn't canon.

Good. Uatu is such a disorganized ass. He needs someone to help him run his business office on the Blue Area of the Moon. Plus, Tessa has experience in catering to people with fetishes. Uatu's voyeurism knows no bounds, but it's much easier to facilitate than some of the more exotic requests Sebastian Shaw and Harry Leland used to give her.

[Filthy Mutie]

Very strange.

The only logical thing I can think of for this ending is some kind of Exiles Secret/Infinity Wars Ragnarokish-type of thing he had in mind for the book and he left all the pieces in place. In that case, that would be kind of cool, since this gathered army of wall decorations would spring to life like housewares in a Disney film and take on a interstellar/dimensional challenge.

In any case, I'm just reaching really far here. Weird issue. Sorry, Sage fans. Maybe when Abyss eventually emerges from the Brimstone Dimension, he'll take Sage with him on a Carnival cruise for a week.

[Home made ectoplasm]

lol at the people who seem to think that Sage will not be back asap. It's only a retcon away.

[Azure]

Good. Uatu is such a disorganized ass. He needs someone to help him run his business office on the Blue Area of the Moon. Plus, Tessa has experience in catering to people with fetishes. Uatu's voyeurism knows no bounds, but it's much easier to facilitate than some of the more exotic requests Sebastian Shaw and Harry Leland used to give her.

Hopefully she'll stop him from showing up to pointless moments in history, like Secret Invasion or The First Foursaken.

[worstblogever]

lol at the people who seem to think that Sage will not be back asap. It's only a retcon away.

Darn it, JAU, I want to be over-the-top melodramatic and make jokes about walls!

[darknessatnoon]

lol at the people who seem to think that Sage will not be back asap. It's only a retcon away.

Yes, what these haters don't seem to understand is that Sage breaks all the rules of comics. Obviously, that's why they hate her so much. And no-name Jeff Parker is a nothing in the industry compared to CC: there's no way someone like him can keep CC's greatest creation down.

[worstblogever]

Hopefully she'll stop him from showing up to pointless moments in history, like Secret Invasion or The First Foursaken.

LOL. I think he actually just wanders around the Marvel Universe drunk off his ass sometimes, and has no clue where he is.

[tornshattered]

Hopefully she'll stop him from showing up to pointless moments in history, like Secret Invasion or The First Foursaken.

Well, Psylocke's brother died. That's a big thing.

[worstblogever]

Well, Psylocke's brother died. That's a big thing.
With no pants on, of course.

[Home made ectoplasm]

Darn it, JAU, I want to be over-the-top melodramatic and make jokes about walls!

Sage fans have powerful allies in Marvel's current writing staff. It is only a question of whether we get Darkness requesting it from Carey, LuckyStar requesting it from Yost, I could have a word with Swierczynski etc etc etc, and that is without even having to use any of timbox's connections.

[Azure]

Well, Psylocke's brother died. That's a big thing.

True, but - he missed that! He watched the bit with the lizard woman and all that, but then completely missed everything that happened on the other side of that portal thing. Which suggests that:

he actually just wanders around the Marvel Universe drunk off his ass sometimes, and has no clue where he is.

Also, of course Sage will be back. Mike Carey is on a vendetta to fix all Claremont-related plot threads, sooner or later he'll to get round to her.

[tornshattered]

With no pants on, of course.

My point, indeed. But I agree that the storyline was pointless and quite stupid as most of Claremont's stories.

[worstblogever]

Sage fans have powerful allies in Marvel's current writing staff. It is only a question of whether we get Darkness requesting it from Carey, LuckyStar requesting it from Yost, I could have a word with Swierczynski etc etc etc, and that is without even having to use any of timbox's connections.

I want to believe you, but so many awesome characters get left wantonly in limbo, I can't help but wonder.

Also, of course Sage will be back. Mike Carey is on a vendetta to fix all Claremont-related plot threads, sooner or later he'll to get round to her.

It's true, he has mentioned regret about not fitting her into the "Xavier" run on Legacy. But he has her in mind.

[darknessatnoon]

Sage fans have powerful allies in Marvel's current writing staff. It is only a question of whether we get Darkness requesting it from Carey, LuckyStar requesting it from Yost, I could have a word with Swierczynski etc etc etc, and that is without even having to use any of timbox's connections.

After what he just did to X-23, I don't want Yost anywhere near Sage.

[worstblogever]

My point, indeed. But I agree that the storyline was pointless and quite stupid as most of Claremont's stories.

It was really more about Bachalo's art. Jamie Braddock in his boxers with a top hat and a pretty girl who made psionic salamanders drawn by him? Almost worth viewing. Just don't read the dialogue too much, and it's pretty.

[worstblogever]

After what he just did to X-23, I don't want Yost anywhere near Sage.

A chainsaw is a pretty nice way to carve into a wall, though.

[Home made ectoplasm]

My point, indeed. But I agree that the storyline was pointless and quite stupid as most of Claremont's stories.

in my country, when people think of comics, they picture Mickey and Donald. It's frustrating when you say that you're interested in comics, they think you're immature or whatever... While if some f#$%in ugly emo chick starts reading manga, they are like "Wow, really? It's nice to see young people interested in other cultures"..

:frown: :frown: :frown:

[jarvSthe1]

No surprised it sucked. This series has been gay ever since CC took over it. This was one of my favorite titles because it had a little "What If...?" taste to it. Ah well I guess most comic books can't last forever and Marvel sure tried its best to keep this series on the shelf.

[Home made ectoplasm]

I want to believe you, but so many awesome characters get left wantonly in limbo, I can't help but wonder.

Since Sage fans are intelligent, they are able to interact with the writers as their contemporaries, rather than as slavish fans. It means the writers are more likely to listen to them, respect their opinion, and bring back Sage, (while Crosta gets killed off-panel).

[Home made ectoplasm]

No surprised it sucked. This series has been gay ever since CC took over it. This was one of my favorite titles because it had a little "What If...?" taste to it. Ah well I guess most comic books can't last forever and Marvel sure tried its best to keep this series on the shelf.

Lol, it's the guy that makes a "gay" reference in every post. Did we not get rid of you yet?

[worstblogever]

Since Sage fans are intelligent, they are able to interact with the writers as their contemporaries, rather than as slavish fans. It means the writers are more likely to listen to them, respect their opinion, and bring back Sage, (while Crosta gets killed off-panel).

I will sleep easier because of this post.

Lol, it's the guy that makes a "gay" reference in every post. Did we not get rid of you yet?

This may have been acceptable if it was to mention "Gay Beast". Sadly, this is not the case.

[jester1436]

No surprised it sucked. This series has been gay ever since CC took over it. This was one of my favorite titles because it had a little "What If...?" taste to it. Ah well I guess most comic books can't last forever and Marvel sure tried its best to keep this series on the shelf.

You're so girl wearing a skirt as a top.

[darknessatnoon]

Since Sage fans are intelligent, they are able to interact with the writers as their contemporaries, rather than as slavish fans. It means the writers are more likely to listen to them, respect their opinion, and bring back Sage, (while Crosta gets killed off-panel).

That's funny because I am in the middle of a completely psychotic message to Mike Carey.

[quillero]

Come on, guys. Don't be mean to the closet case.

Not only is she a retcon away, Parker himself sets it up with the "changing nature" of the nature of it all. It is a matter of time.

[Azure]

Since Sage fans are intelligent, they are able to interact with the writers as their contemporaries, rather than as slavish fans. It means the writers are more likely to listen to them, respect their opinion, and bring back Sage, (while Crosta gets killed off-panel).

How do you think I persuaded Jeff Parker to turn Sage into wallpaper in the first place oops oh no I said that out loud.

[jarvSthe1]

Lol, it's the guy that makes a "gay" reference in every post. Did we not get rid of you yet?
What? Why would you want to get rid of me? Whats wrong with having a straight guy on the x-forums?

[jester1436]

She-Kang is probably Sage in disguise. It's actually Miss Sinister in the wall.

[jester1436]

What? Why would you want to get rid of me? Whats wrong with having a straight guy on the x-forums?

We have plenty.

[worstblogever]

What? Why would you want to get rid of me? Whats wrong with having a straight guy on the x-forums?

I'm living proof of this argument.

[Home made ectoplasm]

That's funny because I am in the middle of a completely psychotic message to Mike Carey.

lol, I am sure this is not the case. copy me in anyway.

[quillero]

What? Why would you want to get rid of me? Whats wrong with having a straight guy on the x-forums?

There are several. It's just that we don't have the subconscious need to mention it every 3 posts.

[DanDeRuff]

lol at the people who seem to think that Sage will not be back asap. It's only a retcon away.

Oh, I wouldn't be surprised if Clairemont has her undo the laws of the multiverse and escape to X Men Forever or have him just plain ignore this in his next real X Book.

But at the moment... at the moment she's stuck in a wall. And the moment feels good...

[jester1436]

his next real X Book.

Hahaha.

Hahahahahaha.

Hahahahahahahaha.

Hahahahahahahahahaaha.

Ha.

[RolandJP]

Oh, I wouldn't be surprised if Clairemont has her undo the laws of the multiverse and escape to X Men Forever or have him just plain ignore this in his next real X Book.

But at the moment... at the moment she's stuck in a wall. And the moment feels good...


Its all part of Jeff Parker's plan to end education. He is saying, "All in all you're just another brick in the wall. "

[Kid Icarus]

I thought this issue was wonderful and I am sorry to see the series go.
Jeff Parker tried to actually make sense of the nonsense that is the multiverse.

[soul_eater]

This issue was heavy, but Jeff Parker made the best he could with the little time he had.

I did love the cliffhanger with evil Wanda, but I don't think we will ever see this team again.

[Marvelfan278]

If they'd just tossed in an AU Wolverine I bet this issue would have bumped an extra 10k issues a month. When will Marvel writers learn? You want long-term viability you have to have claw people in your book.

[frog]

It's a shame that people thought the ending was bad - I don't doubt that it's hard to abruptly tie everything up when you get the sudden news it's going kaput. I thought it had started promisingly but it didn't get a good fighting chance.

[nightw1ng]

it'd be pretty easy for sage to come back. since the guiding force is ever changing, sage could be the next consciousness to pop out, and she could just decide to go home instead of sticking around to play multiversal janitor.

[NewMutant]

hahaha poor Sage. I really enjoyed her in X-Treme but she kept going down hill from there.

And now she is a wall...

New hero name....

Wall-et

[KwameKamikaze]

The most realistic reality: Beast and Wonder man are gay lovers, lol. I'm kinda bugged out that he left it with the Wanda being killed and b*tch Wanda stealing her place. We can probably hope for a mini series and maybe a few one shots probably for the next two years until they relaunch it again.

[The Black Guardian]

She-Kang makes more sense than every other benefactor the Exiles have ever had.

[infernohara]

Sage should have stayed with new Excalibur when she had the chance. Her outfit was retarded and it is quite fitting for her to be in a wall to think about her downward spiral of a life. Still, I like the girl and hope that Psylocke won't forget about her-----them being best friends and all. Lets hope her true friend(Sebastian Shaw) will get her out of this mess and that pirate outfit.

[Prodigy55]

Did you guys see ICARUS??!?!?!?!

[quillero]

Did you guys see ICARUS??!?!?!?!

This Was A Complete Piece Of Crap.


Obviously, yes.

[nightw1ng]

an alternate rachel summers/grey also makes an appearance, despite claremont's assertion that she is unique in the multiverse.

[jester1436]

an alternate rachel summers/grey also makes an appearance, despite claremont's assertion that she is unique in the multiverse.

Alternate Rachels have appeared in "What If" issues too. Is Claremont the only one to foist this "only one Rachel, unique fiery snowflake" thing on readers?

[Nevets F]

This was terrible. Terrible terrible. Jeff Parker had a chance to just have the New Exiles as being one of the other groups at the end, making all fans (however few there might have been) happy, instead he spit on the fans of Sage and the rest nobody cares about.

[Nevets F]

hahaha poor Sage. I really enjoyed her in X-Treme but she kept going down hill from there.

And now she is a wall...



Yeah, I really enjoyed her in X-Treme also...then downward spiral ever since sadly.

[eurazn]

What? Why would you want to get rid of me? Whats wrong with having a straight guy on the x-forums?

We have plenty.

Plenty who don't use "gay" as a pejorative term, too.

[jester1436]

This was terrible. Terrible terrible. Jeff Parker had a chance to just have the New Exiles as being one of the other groups at the end, making all fans (however few there might have been) happy, instead he spit on the fans of Sage and the rest nobody cares about.

I don't see a vast difference between Sage being the wall and being in the wall. It's all very philosophical. Does this mean Sage is inside herself?

[Prodigy55]

The series is over, it doesn't matter what New Exiles fans think.

[Omega Alpha]

This was pretty good, even if there was too much information.

And Sage on the wall, being just part of the decoration, was hilarious. Take that, CC!

She-Kang makes more sense than every other benefactor the Exiles have ever had.

[nightw1ng]

Alternate Rachels have appeared in "What If" issues too. Is Claremont the only one to foist this "only one Rachel, unique fiery snowflake" thing on readers?
oh, i know. there was even an alternate rachel shown in the past exiles series that had more magic based powers i think, and the exiles' sabretooth also took care of another alternate rachel's child for awhile. while it may have seemed a neat idea, claremont's notion that rachel is unique in the multiverse is unfeasible since the multiverse should consist of nearly every possible outcome. if the only rachel that exists is the one in the 616 universe, there could never be a timeline that branches off of it because those by default should have rachel in it. besides, claremont contradicted himself by having rachel in x-men: the end anyway.

[Mitsaso]

LOL Sage got the Kitty Pryde treatment!!
Limboed and absorbed into an alien structure thingy!!!

This Guy Smith cameo, however, totally made my day!
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q206/mitsaso/CCC.jpg

[darknessatnoon]

LOL Sage got the Kitty Pryde treatment!!
Limboed and absorbed into an alien structure thingy!!!

This Guy Smith cameo, however, totally made my day!
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q206/mitsaso/CCC.jpg

LOL

Wanda's line there is pretty brilliant.

[Somebody]

To all the posters who have made Exiles threads on the new series such a chore to read by rambling endlessly about Sage: Ha. Ha. Ha.

[darknessatnoon]

To all the posters who have made Exiles threads on the new series such a chore to read by rambling endlessly about Sage: Ha. Ha. Ha.

Hey hey hey!

We just think that Jeff Parker is a better writer than this. Someone with such a love of continuity shouldn't be treating an original x-man like this.

[Prodigy55]

Firestar was also in it, I think. But it looked like a female Rusty.

[Bronze Badger]

Firestar was also in it, I think. But it looked like a female Rusty.

Wait, I thought Rusty was a male Firestar. I'm confused.

[Somebody]

Wait, I thought Rusty was a male Firestar. I'm confused.

Prodigy's referring to Rusty Collins, one of X-Factor's trainees (who was ultimately killed by Holocaust). Separate character from Firestar (for one thing, he had actual fire powers, rather than microwave powers that artists can't resist rendering as fire for some reason).

[quillero]

Prodigy's referring to Rusty Collins, one of X-Factor's trainees (who was ultimately killed by Holocaust). Separate character from Firestar (for one thing, he had actual fire powers, rather than microwave powers that artists can't resist rendering as fire for some reason).

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sarcasm

[Leirus]

Hey hey hey!

We just think that Jeff Parker is a better writer than this. Someone with such a love of continuity shouldn't be treating an original x-man like this.

In fact, I am quite sure that someone with such a love of continuity would not treat an original x-man like that.

(lol)

[darknessatnoon]

*whimpers*

... Sage

SAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE!!!!!!!!!!!

[quillero]

*whimpers*

... Sage

SAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE!!!!!!!!!!!

Put yourself together. You're not a Jean fan.

[timbox]

Sage scans, please.

[Omega Alpha]

Hey hey hey!

We just think that Jeff Parker is a better writer than this. Someone with such a love of continuity shouldn't be treating an original x-man like this.

Your post is a contradition into itself.

[NewMutant]

Sage scans, please.

Just look at a wall.

[Leirus]

*whimpers*

... Sage

SAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE!!!!!!!!!!!

There, there Darkness... It is not even fun if you act like this...

It is... it is not Sage Ok? It was the same than Morph and Proteus... Diana Whatever got caught by the crystal palace, your girl Sage is on her way to become the next receptionist in X-Factor...

[Prodigy55]

There, there Darkness... It is not even fun if you act like this...

It is... it is not Sage Ok? It was the same than Morph and Proteus... Diana Whatever got caught by the crystal palace, your girl Sage is on her way to become the next receptionist in X-Factor...

There was 2 Sages in the wall.

[Leirus]

There was 2 Sages in the wall.

Pfffmffff... you are messing with me because you know full well that I will not see the issue in months, right?

[Hi-Fi]

Sage fans have powerful allies in Marvel's current writing staff. It is only a question of whether we get Darkness requesting it from Carey, LuckyStar requesting it from Yost, I could have a word with Swierczynski etc etc etc, and that is without even having to use any of timbox's connections.
Darkness is your Carey link? Really? Drop dead, JAU.


Aw, I felt bad for the Sage fans. I kept waiting to see her and when she appeared stuck on that wall, it made me sad. :frown:

[Zel]

I thought it was a great wrap-up to series. The ever changing nature of the Panopitcron fits in well with the time and universe changing activities of the book. Glad they brought TJ back. Hopefully the Mouse money will give them the opportunity to put the book back out once it's had time to rest and for nostalgia to gloss over the rough parts.

Just gotta lol at the Sage hysteria though, she's such a minor character I didn't even notice her in the wall.

[Leirus]

Darkness is your Carey link? Really? Drop dead, JAU.


Aw, I felt bad for the Sage fans. I kept waiting to see her and when she appeared stuck on that wall, it made me sad. :frown:

You are such a nice gu... wait... what is covering Madrox in your avatar, you pervert?

[Prodigy55]

No, there really was 2 Sages.

One was with her New Exiles costume (with the 1 long boot-thing) and the other she was wearing her regular black costume.

[Hi-Fi]

You are such a nice gu... wait... what is covering Madrox in your avatar, you pervert?
Water from a fountain. Don't be gross, Leirus.

[Leirus]

Water from a fountain. Don't be gross, Leirus.

Hrmmmmmmmm...

I guess I have a dirty mind.

(Which is, actually, one of my better assets)

[CmX]

I liked the issue, Parker had to wrap up the series and all it's plots with one issue so I give him kudos for doing his best.

I'm glad there was no Sage reveal, I much prefer her in stasis rather than actually being the crystal palace.

I'm curious if they plan on relaunching the series or continue it in a mini series?

Happy to see TJ also, too bad she was still in her horrid Michael Ryan design.

[cgar]

a wall decoration? seriously?

Well at least now someone could break her out of stasis and bring her back to 616. Have her chill with Rogue and Psylocke. I think that would be interesting

[nightw1ng]

There was 2 Sages in the wall.no, there was only one; the second was a flashback image. nocturne was explaining how they had put their friends in stasis to save them but it only sped up the process of them being absorbed into the palace.

[darknessatnoon]

Sage scans, please.

... poor Mystiq :frown: .
http://i28.tinypic.com/2953ayx.jpg

Here Jeff Parker calls Sage ugly.

http://i30.tinypic.com/v7ftxy.jpg

[cgar]

why arent blink and nocturne in that wall?

[Filthy Mutie]

http://i30.tinypic.com/v7ftxy.jpg

What an amazing team. Tessa is bangin' there.

[Waterlily]

Here Jeff Parker calls Sage ugly.

Are you sure that's not just Jeff Parker letting us know that the cat person (who is that?) has bad taste? Sage looks really good there.






Eww. Is that Mojo?

[Leirus]

What an amazing team. Tessa is bangin' there.

I thought she was Selene?

Oh, well, a common mistake, it seems...

[Filthy Mutie]

I thought she was Selene?

Oh, well, a common mistake, it seems...

I'll go with yes.

Selene is bangin' there.

[darknessatnoon]

I thought she was Selene?

Oh, well, a common mistake, it seems...

No, she has the exact same face as Sage up on the wall! I suppose Selene is a possibility given the company she's in.

[darknessatnoon]

why arent blink and nocturne in that wall?

They weren't with the New Exiles team when all that happened. You have to read the story for the convoluted explanation.

[Waterlily]

EDIT: nevermind.

[CmX]

Ugh seeing the New Exiles again gives me nightmares.

I think that is Selene seeing as it's a group of villians being put together.

[Leirus]

No, she has the exact same face as Sage up on the wall! I suppose Selene is a possibility given the company she's in.

Also, Hellfire Sage (AKA Tessa) had always her hair in a bun...

[cgar]

They weren't with the New Exiles team when all that happened. You have to read the story for the convoluted explanation.

I EFFEN like Sage. I was asking cuz i dont pick up this series. SORRY

[Hi-Fi]

Oh yeah, I thought the issue was actually pretty good. Good jokes, good art, good stuff. Wish the book would continue.

And it was great to see my favorite Exiles member, Heather, again.

[coveredinbees]

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/90/273969765_6f81580ef0.jpg

[CmX]

Oh yeah, I thought the issue was actually pretty good. Good jokes, good art, good stuff. Wish the book would continue.

And it was great to see my favorite Exiles member, Heather, again.

Same here. I guess I was one of the few that actually enjoyed the issue. I guess I'm not a big enough Sage fan to have had a reason to dislike it.

[Hi-Fi]

Same here. I guess I was one of the few that actually enjoyed the issue. I guess I'm not a big enough Sage fan to have had a reason to dislike it.
I like Sage (probably for the LOL, but still), so seeing her "locked" on the wall like that bummed me out a bit. But the issue was pretty enjoyable for a final "wrap-up" issue. Jeff Parker did good.

[CmX]

I like Sage (probably for the LOL, but still), so seeing her "locked" on the wall like that bummed me out a bit. But the issue was pretty enjoyable for a final "wrap-up" issue. Jeff Parker did good.

Parker could have done a lot of good for the Exiles series, but the sales were pretty bad even for it's first issue.

I think Marvel should have given the title a longer break from Claremont's clusterfuck of bullshit New Exiles.

Although Sage was stuck in the wall, at least she's not the crystal palace anymore.

[Flâneur]

I enjoyed this issue mostly because I understood what Parker was planning to do, the long running subplot with the Witch, his planned breaking of the CC continuity lock and the rehabilitation of the NEXiles. He was even able to implicitly retcon the bugs and explain why they randomly disappeared in CC's run.

I wish this series lasted long enough that Parker was able to bring them all out of the wall. Fuck you, Marvel. Fuck you.

[nightw1ng]

honestly, the development with sage doesn't really change much. she's still stuck in character limbo. only now, with her "demotion" it makes it easier for another creator to come along in the future and use her since she's no longer in charge of the entire multiverse.

[CmX]

I wish this series lasted long enough that Parker was able to bring them all out of the wall. Fuck you, Marvel. Fuck you.

Yeah I think Parker did the best he could to pick up the pieces after Claremont completely destroyed the Exiles and stomped all over it.

[quillero]

Yeah I think Parker did the best he could to pick up the pieces after Claremont completely destroyed the Exiles and stomped all over it.

I liked the issue. It just felt way to exposition heavy but I realise it was not Parker's fault. It was just the nature of teh beast with such an early cancellation.

[darknessatnoon]

I EFFEN like Sage. I was asking cuz i dont pick up this series. SORRY

If you liked Sage you would have bought the series and let it keep going so she could be revealed as the Timebroker.

[coveredinbees]

The Wanda ending was pretty great.

[cgar]

If you liked Sage you would have bought the series and let it keep going so she could be revealed as the Timebroker.

i hope your not serious. she wasnt even in it. Parker didnt even show interest in using her

[coveredinbees]

i hope your not serious. she wasnt even in it. Parker didnt even show interest in using her
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=9487958&postcount=10

[cgar]

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=9487958&postcount=10

ok and that doesnt mean much. But since you post on the psylocke board ill back off

[worstblogever]

*whimpers*

... Sage

SAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE!!!!!!!!!!!

This is a stage of grief. I know all too well, having gone through it with Peepers.

On the upside, it's a lot easier to bust Sage out of a wall that recover from being but chunks in Predator X's s***.

[AcesX1X]

ok and that doesnt mean much. But since you post on the psylocke board ill back off

it means exactly what it mean. jeff parker could have done amazing feats with sage and all the rest of the exiles, but was HUSHED! and in the process, characters continue to be trampled upon!

[cgar]

Edit. Forget it

[timbox]

Did you guys see ICARUS??!?!?!?!

They had a really hard time thinking of mutants who could fly to fill that page. Pixie was also there.

[Sandy Hausler]

jeff parker could have easily left sage on the outside of that wall, or a number of other things as an alternative to wrap this series up.

this turn of events was wholly unimaginative.



You mean you don't like it.

I think it was imaginative. (Even if he hadn't gotten rid of Sage, it would have been imaginative, but I'm especially happy that ALL of the Claremont Exiles are gone, even the one from Earth 616.)

And the Exiles will be back, sooner or later.

Sandy Hausler

[Sandy Hausler]

lol at the people who seem to think that Sage will not be back asap. It's only a retcon away.

Well, yeah, they brought back Bucky, but I don't think Sage is so popular that anyone will be clamoring for her return. She might wait as long as Bucky did.

Sandy Hausler

[Sandy Hausler]

Yes, what these haters don't seem to understand is that Sage breaks all the rules of comics. Obviously, that's why they hate her so much. And no-name Jeff Parker is a nothing in the industry compared to CC: there's no way someone like him can keep CC's greatest creation down.

Way.

Sandy Hausler

[Sandy Hausler]

Hey hey hey!

We just think that Jeff Parker is a better writer than this. Someone with such a love of continuity shouldn't be treating an original x-man like this.

Actually, I think he treated the Beast fine. No reason an alternate universe Beast shouldn't be gay. And Parker gave Beast his intelligence back.

Sandy Hausler

[CmX]

If Sage was meant to be one of the timebrokers it would have been revealed this final issue. Instead it was revealed that she is in the stasis wall.

So the narrative voices in the first issue were Heather, TJ and Morph. No Sage.

Like TJ said in the issue, "the original Exiles".

Sage is an original X-Man darkness, not an original Exile. You should know these things.

[NormanB]

Enjoyed the wrap-up issue.

Volume 1 is still the benchmark, but these six issues were also great.

Volume 2, in this readers' opinion, was largely flaming poo.

[darknessatnoon]

If Sage was meant to be one of the timebrokers it would have been revealed this final issue. Instead it was revealed that she is in the stasis wall.

So the narrative voices in the first issue were Heather, TJ and Morph. No Sage.

Like TJ said in the issue, "the original Exiles".

Sage is an original X-Man darkness, not an original Exile. You should know these things.

He thought he had an ongoing when he wrote issue one. I'm sure Sage was meant to be a Timebroker. Last minute rewrite got rid of her since he had to wrap up the entire series. It was more 'natural' to have a pity homage to the original team than to revisit CC's complicated storyline.

[NormanB]

CC's complicated storyline.

Heh. What a generous way to describe it.

[blinkinrogue]

havent gotten the issue yet, but i sort of didnt get what i read here... blink betrayed the team? how? wasnt she with nocturne and morph?

[CmX]

He thought he had an ongoing when he wrote issue one. I'm sure Sage was meant to be a Timebroker. Last minute rewrite got rid of her since he had to wrap up the entire series. It was more 'natural' to have a pity homage to the original team than to revisit CC's complicated storyline.

If this scenario makes you sleep at night then more power to you.

[darknessatnoon]

If this scenario makes you sleep at night then more power to you.

If being a nasty punk helps you sleep at night, I'm glad for you.

[timbox]

If this scenario makes you sleep at night then more power to you.

You act like it's some paranoid delusion dreamt up Sage fans. Do you know how New Exiles ended?

[CmX]

If being a nasty punk helps you sleep at night, I'm glad for you.

If my remark really got to you then yes it does.

[darknessatnoon]

If my remark really got to you then yes it does.

Your most recent persona is getting to me in general. You've transformed from an occasionally witty poster to a complete bore.

[CmX]

Your most recent persona is getting to me in general. You've transformed from an occasionally witty poster to a complete bore.

I must read like a Claremont comic then.

[darknessatnoon]

I must read like a Claremont comic then.

Do you think I care if you insult CC?

Luckystar needs to start controlling her people or I'll do it for her.

[CmX]

Do you think I care if you insult CC?

No not really. It was just an overall jab at CC, not at you.

It's not always about you darkness!

[Prodigy55]

http://i31.tinypic.com/dq3muf.jpg

[RoguishGurl]

I wonder when the two Wandas were switched.

[Drey]

I figured I'd flip through the final issue to see how things wrapped up. What made me buy the issue though was the fight between Emma and Jean. Loved seeing Emma swat her away like a fly.

As for Sage, I'm sure she'll come back to the 616 much like Betsy did. Outta the blue and with barely a word about where she's been.

[Darth Logan]

As for Sage, I'm sure she'll come back to the 616 much like Betsy did. Outta the blue and with barely a word about where she's been.
Probably because no one will ask or care.

[Daniel Mengsk]

As for Sage, I'm sure she'll come back to the 616 much like Betsy did. Outta the blue and with barely a word about where she's been.

I think that there's a reason for Betsy's "hush"-behaviour though. Fraction said something about it.

Sage stuck in a wall - I think that I will throw up; such a disrespectful way to treat one of the few readable X-characters. And she was stuck in that God-awful outfit...ugh.

[Drey]

Probably because no one will ask or care.

Probably. Sage's "Mulder" has become a baby killer and Storm is off in Africa. Betsy would care though. She certainly had a hissy when Sage became part of the palace. :smile:

I think that there's a reason for Betsy's "hush"-behaviour though. Fraction said something about it.

I really don't mind. This is Psylocke's new start so to speak. Maybe she could mention she trained under Ogun when she meets up with Wolverine. Just as long as that mess with AoA Creed is NEVER mentioned. EVER.

stuck in a wall - I think that I will throw up; such a disrespectful way to treat one of the few readable X-characters. And she was stuck in that God-awful outfit...ugh.

I liked that outfit more than the droll brown pants and idiotic metal bra cups lol.

[jarvSthe1]

No not really. It was just an overall jab at CC, not at you.

It's not always about you darkness!
You just have to ignore his diva moments.

[alf_to_the_rescue]

Woop woop .......

Now, just a couple years wait til the relaunch...

[AcesX1X]

As for Sage, I'm sure she'll come back to the 616 much like Betsy did. Outta the blue and with barely a word about where she's been.

thanks, drey.


as for jeff parker, i am glad he at least put sage in preservation until someone can come back and properly tend to her and do fantastic things with her. i am not going to try and project how i think he feels about her.

i just hope that if he reads these boards at all, he knows that he had many fans and supporters of his run on exiles. sage fans included. personally, i was looking forward to seeing what he would do with this book.

as a sage fan, i had hoped parker would have rehabilitated her after CC ran her through the sawmill in prev-exiles, and i'll just leave my thoughts at that.

it was good to see nocturne again, though.

[Daniel Mengsk]

She certainly had a hissy when Sage became part of the palace. :smile:

Sigh, I'm such a Sage-Betsy shipper. Why a wall?! Why...... :frown:

[Swashbuckler]

Re: Sage Inside a Wall

After finishing this issue of Exiles I thought to myself, "This series was really going somewhere." The ending with the Scarlet Witch dupe was interesting and the other team members turning against Blink more slowly could have built up wonderfully. Sage clearly would have progressed into a bigger part of the story, but I understand her being walled up in this abridged ending.

I am not bothered by the revelation. Sage has simply mutated. Cell phones and laptops are always getting slimmer and more cleverly packaged. Sage is now like a wireless flat screen mutant. It would have been interesting to see "Eternity" be Sage instead, but I also think it's possible this "Kang" creature is simply another manifestation of Sage's persona similar to Diana Fox.

[Push You Down]

THIS JUST IN: No one cares about Sage.

Get over it.

[Drey]

thanks, drey.

No problem, I am also a Sage fan. I've liked her ever since I was first introduced to her as Tessa in X-man. With comics, it's never the end for our favorite characters. Being a fan of Madelyne Pryor and Illyana has made me a lot more patient.

[Swashbuckler]

THIS JUST IN: No one cares about Sage.

Get over it.

People are over it. It's not a a shocking development. It's just now we must speculate when she will emerge from her encasement. Sage is still broadcasting properly, there's just a firewall up that she's trying to work around. And as I am a Sage fan and I care about her, your statement is wrong.

[darknessatnoon]

People are over it. It's not a a shocking development. It's just now we must speculate when she will emerge from her encasement. Sage is still broadcasting properly, there's just a firewall up that she's trying to work around. And as I am a Sage fan and I care about her, your statement is wrong.

Thanks, Swash. Push You Down just has Sage confused with Dazzler. It happens often around here.

[Bingo!]

It would have been interesting to see "Eternity" be Sage instead, but I also think it's possible [B]this "Kang" creature is simply another manifestation of Sage's persona similar to Diana Fox.

This theory sits well with me.

At the very least, according to Parker, it's a possible eventuality.

[Omega Alpha]

but I also think it's possible this "Kang" creature is simply another manifestation of Sage's persona similar to Diana Fox.

No, it's not, and you know it. It's simply an alternate reality Kang, period.

SAGE IS IRRELEVANT AND NO ONE BUT CLAREMONT REALLY CARES ABOUT HER, just accept it!

[coveredinbees]

No, it's not, and you know it. It's simply an alternate reality Kang, period.

SAGE IS IRRELEVANT AND NO ONE BUT CLAREMONT REALLY CARES ABOUT HER, just accept it!
Sage has loads of dedicated fans. http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=218693
http://sagetessa.conforums.com/index.cgi#

[yanapryde]

No problem, I am also a Sage fan. I've liked her ever since I was first introduced to her as Tessa in X-man. With comics, it's never the end for our favorite characters. Being a fan of Madelyne Pryor and Illyana has made me a lot more patient.

What'd I do? Nuffin'

[Swashbuckler]

No, it's not, and you know it. It's simply an alternate reality Kang, period.

SAGE IS IRRELEVANT AND NO ONE BUT CLAREMONT REALLY CARES ABOUT HER, just accept it!

I am a Sage fan, so you're already proven wrong. No one's saying Sage deserves her own book or anything (though I'd read a Sage solo). I'm jsut saying, since she has Roma's knowledge and she's already a tactical genius, her being this female version of Kang is not that out of context.

[Joe Franklin]

It's worth having AOA Sabretooth gone forever, if it means Sage is also gone forever.

Sage has never been written worth a crap since her creation. Claremont dropped the ball big time with this character from the beginning. Best she stays gone forever.

[coveredinbees]

It's worth having AOA Sabretooth gone forever, if it means Sage is also gone forever.

Sage has never been written worth a crap since her creation. Claremont dropped the ball big time with this character from the beginning. Best she stays gone forever.
Ralph Macchio did a great Sage.

[Sandy Hausler]

If Sage was meant to be one of the timebrokers it would have been revealed this final issue. Instead it was revealed that she is in the stasis wall.

So the narrative voices in the first issue were Heather, TJ and Morph. No Sage.

Like TJ said in the issue, "the original Exiles".

Sage is an original X-Man darkness, not an original Exile. You should know these things.

Heather was actually a third generation Exile. First was Magus, who died in the first story. Then Sunfire, who died. Heather took her place.

Sandy Hausler

[Astonishing!]

Heather was actually a third generation Exile. First was Magus, who died in the first story. Then Sunfire, who died. Heather took her place.

Sandy Hausler

Heather took Thunderbird's place, Sunfire didn't die until well into the 40s or so. Replaced by Blink.

[Daniel Mengsk]

SAGE IS IRRELEVANT AND NO ONE BUT CLAREMONT REALLY CARES ABOUT HER, just accept it!

Feel better now?

Maybe we should go back to praise Emma's fine achivements during Utopia instead?

[darknessatnoon]

It's worth having AOA Sabretooth gone forever, if it means Sage is also gone forever.

Sage has never been written worth a crap since her creation. Claremont dropped the ball big time with this character from the beginning. Best she stays gone forever.

Sage is coming back because she's a real character and not AU crap. AOA Sabretooth is gone for good. Also, even normal Sabretooth has been replaced by Daken. Bye, Joe Franklin. Maybe I'll see you around the Marvel U board sometime.

[Sandy Hausler]

Heather took Thunderbird's place, Sunfire didn't die until well into the 40s or so. Replaced by Blink.

You're right. Who took Sunfire's place? Illyana?

And I guess that makes her a second generation Exile.

Sandy Hausler

[Sandy Hausler]

Sage is coming back because she's a real character and not AU crap. AOA Sabretooth is gone for good. Also, even normal Sabretooth has been replaced by Daken. Bye, Joe Franklin. Maybe I'll see you around the Marvel U board sometime.

Newsflash. They're all fictional characters whether they come from Earth 616 or an alternate universe.

Sandy Hausler

[Joe Franklin]

Ralph Macchio did a great Sage.

Sage was in Karate Kid? :biggrin:

[Astonishing!]

You're right. Who took Sunfire's place? Illyana?

And I guess that makes her a second generation Exile.

Sandy Hausler

Blink returned after being replaced by evil-illyana and took Sunfire's place.

[Joe Franklin]

Newsflash. They're all fictional characters whether they come from Earth 616 or an alternate universe.

Sandy Hausler

Let's please not discuss realism vs fantasy land in this thread. It derails it. :biggrin:

[Daniel Mengsk]

Sage was in Karate Kid? :biggrin:

LOL I was wondering the same thing. :)

Bees, do you mean Karate 1, 2 or 3?

[jester1436]

Newsflash. They're all fictional characters whether they come from Earth 616 or an alternate universe.

Sandy Hausler

People who begin a post with "newsflash" really should be smacked upside the head. It's like declaring "here's the truth from a tool."

[darknessatnoon]

Newsflash. They're all fictional characters whether they come from Earth 616 or an alternate universe.

Sandy Hausler

Newsflash, Sandy. By and large, readers don't care for alternate versions of pre-existing characters. Also, we don't care for original characters from alternate timelines (see: Rachel dumptruck Summers).

[jester1436]

Newsflash, Sandy. By and large, readers don't care for alternate versions of pre-existing characters. Also, we don't care for original characters from alternate timelines (see: Rachel dumptruck Summers).

Obviously, responding to an original "newsflash" post with "newsflash" is acceptable as you're only serving up the same behavior at the initiator and they deserve it.

That said, I care for Rachel Summers. She is a misunderstood lesbian dinosaur who needs love.

[coveredinbees]

Sage was in Karate Kid? :biggrin:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ralph+macchio+comics&aq=0&oq=Ralph+macchio+com&aqi=g1

LOL I was wondering the same thing. :)

Bees, do you mean Karate 1, 2 or 3?
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/5373/xman9639.jpg

[Astonishing!]

Newsflash, Sandy. By and large, readers don't care for alternate versions of pre-existing characters. Also, we don't care for original characters from alternate timelines (see: Rachel dumptruck Summers).

Plenty of readers care for Blink.

[darknessatnoon]

Plenty of readers care for Blink.

Blink is famous for being the exception to that rule, though.

[Daniel Mengsk]

Bees, you're the best. ;)

Now, if you could only find a way to destroy that darn wall and free Sage...

[worstblogever]

It's worth having AOA Sabretooth gone forever, if it means Sage is also gone forever.

Sage has never been written worth a crap since her creation. Claremont dropped the ball big time with this character from the beginning. Best she stays gone forever.

Do you think Morph will get in trouble when he hangs a photo of himself on the wall, and uses Sabretooth as the stud to drive the nail into to support it?

[coveredinbees]

Bees, you're the best. ;)

Now, if you could only find a way to destroy that darn wall and free Sage...
http://i30.tinypic.com/kchvd0.jpg

Newsflash. They're all fictional characters whether they come from Earth 616 or an alternate universe.

Sandy Hausler
Sage volunteered to help the Exiles out of the kindness of her heart. She was not displaced and can go home.

[Astonishing!]

Blink is famous for being the exception to that rule, though.

Fair enough, for this i'll atleast pretend to be upset when I see Sage in the stasis gallery, she was pretty cool in the New Excalibur issues that I read after all.

[timbox]

Blink is Egyptian. Stand down.

[Astonishing!]

Blink is Egyptian. Stand down.

Huh? :confused:

[Daniel Mengsk]

http://i30.tinypic.com/kchvd0.jpg


Ha ha ha, well played. :wink:

[darknessatnoon]

Huh? :confused:

She is Clan Akkaba. Read Dracula V. Apocalypse.

[timbox]

Huh? :confused:

Maybe you've heard of En Sabah Nur?

[Prodigy55]

What is Blink's relation to Apocalypse? Is she his daughter?

[Filthy Mutie]

What is Blink's relation to Apocalypse? Is she his daughter?

She's Egyptian.

[timbox]

I don't have time to educate this entire forum. Do some research, people.

[Astonishing!]

Maybe you've heard of En Sabah Nur?

No, i knew her and Apocalypse were related, through Frederick Slade, but why'd you say stand down?

[Astonishing!]

What is Blink's relation to Apocalypse? Is she his daughter?

Just a very distant descendant, along with Chamber.

[worstblogever]

Just a very distant descendant, along with Chamber.

Are you sure? We can have Blink, Chamber, and Apocalypse on Maury Povich to be sure if he's their father or not.

[darknessatnoon]

Are you sure?

Yes.
Please update Mutant Tracker.

[Joe Franklin]

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/5373/xman9639.jpg

:eek: Sage has a sun tan?

[Prodigy55]

Update Mutant Tracker to make Pixie part of Clan Akaba too. Her father is Holocaust.

[worstblogever]

Yes.
Please update Mutant Tracker.

I don't want race threads to start against non-blue Egyptians.

Update Mutant Tracker to make Pixie part of Clan Akaba too. Her father is Holocaust.

Wait, Apocalypse is her mommy?

[coveredinbees]

I don't want race threads to start against non-blue Egyptians.



Wait, Apocalypse is her mommy?
The Phalanx is her mommy.

[coveredinbees]

:eek: Sage has a sun tan?
As Sunspots opposite, Sage has grown darker over the years.

[Prodigy55]

Wait, Apocalypse is her mommy?

No, Welsh-Emma Frost is her mother.

[jarvSthe1]

Blink is Egyptian. Stand down.
When did that get retconned. During the Phalanx Covenant it was mentioned that she is from the Caribbean.

[Filthy Mutie]

When did that get retconned. During the Phalanx Covenant it was mentioned that she is from the Caribbean.

Scan, plz?

[Azure]

Pixie and Blink are Welsh. So is Apocalypse. And that yellow thing. All Welsh.

[CmX]

Heather was actually a third generation Exile. First was Magus, who died in the first story. Then Sunfire, who died. Heather took her place.

Sandy Hausler

Heather replaced Thunderbird, which makes her second generation.

Trust me, I know my Exiles.

[Astonishing!]

Heather replaced Thunderbird, which makes her second generation.

Trust me, I know my Exiles.

Don't worry, i'd already corrected her.

[CmX]

It's worth having AOA Sabretooth gone forever, if it means Sage is also gone forever.

Sage has never been written worth a crap since her creation. Claremont dropped the ball big time with this character from the beginning. Best she stays gone forever.

I wouldn't go that far. I remember I began to dislike Sage when Diana Fox came into the picture during New Excalibur.

Since then for me, her quality in character has gone straight downhill. I don't understand why Claremont didn't just write the finale of New Exiles with Sage and Psylocke going home.

At least that way other writers could have done something with Sage. Instead he made it difficult for that to happen.

Then again Claremont has done this with a lot of characters so I'm sure a write can easily come along and do Sage some justice. It's just a matter of who and if they have enough effort to do so.

[CmX]

Don't worry, i'd already corrected her.

Cut her tongue.

[Astonishing!]

Cut her tongue.

I'm working on it.

[gothicelfisback]

I thought this issues has some good points, and it explined what happened to the over teams, but some of it was just over the top. like exiles teams traning exiles teams. 0-o and why wasn't t-bird there? He was an orginal exiles.

[strathcona]

I thought this was a great little issue. I loved Beast's explaination that the origins of the Panoptichron keeps changing everytime the multiverse is changed, so all the origins we have seen (Timebroker, Bugs, Sage and now Kang) are all true. I think this was a great way to bring back the original, true Exiles, without sacrificing the new ones. The New Exiles though, had to go... But they can still be used in the future if someone wants.

I think the best thing to do is wait a few years and then relaunch the book using this group, the originals, Claremont's crew and those from the one-shot that came out after Exiles #100 in a overall story, paring them down to a managable size.

[strathcona]

I thought this issues has some good points, and it explined what happened to the over teams, but some of it was just over the top. like exiles teams traning exiles teams. 0-o and why wasn't t-bird there? He was an orginal exiles.

He was mentioned. Nocture told Heather to tell T-Bird she would be back. I thought that was a nice touch.

[Sandy Hausler]

People who begin a post with "newsflash" really should be smacked upside the head. It's like declaring "here's the truth from a tool."

Except it really is the truth, fool.

Sandy Hausler

[timbox]

Except it really is the truth, fool.

Sandy Hausler

He never said it wasn't.

[Sandy Hausler]

Newsflash, Sandy. By and large, readers don't care for alternate versions of pre-existing characters. Also, we don't care for original characters from alternate timelines (see: Rachel dumptruck Summers).

Uh, then they shouldn't be reading Exiles. And I'm not sure that it's
"by and large." It may be "some" or "many."

Sandy Hausler

[darknessatnoon]

Uh, then they shouldn't be reading Exiles. And I'm not sure that it's
"by and large." It may be "some" or "many."

Sandy Hausler

Chris Claremont saved Exiles by bringing in real 616 characters about whom the reader could care.

[Sandy Hausler]

Blink is famous for being the exception to that rule, though.

Lots of people like Morph. (They must have. Isn't he the only character who has ALWAYS been an Exile since issue #1.)

Sandy Hausler

[darknessatnoon]

Lots of people like Morph. (They must have. Isn't he the only character who has ALWAYS been an Exile since issue #1.)

Sandy Hausler

Morph is garbage. Those people have terrible taste. If there's one character I would wipe from comics it would be that unfunny white blob.

[Sandy Hausler]

Chris Claremont saved Exiles by bringing in real 616 characters about whom the reader could care.

Uh, the book got cancelled in the middle of his run (which stunk, by the way, especially the parts that focused on the 616 characters). He didn't save anything.

Sandy Hausler

[jarvSthe1]

Scan, plz?
I'll find it when I get home. However it has never been mentioned that Blink is a descendant of Apocalypse. Its only been hinted at just like it was hinted that X-Treme was the third Summers brother.
Morph is garbage. Those people have terrible taste. If there's one character I would wipe from comics it would be that unfunny white blob.
Uh no. Claremont took a low selling book and drove it deeper into the ground. Fans love alternate characters. Thats what Exiles was about. Thats why the AOA was so popular. Your opinion does not mean everyone shares it.

[darknessatnoon]

Uh no. Claremont took a low selling book and drove it deeper into the ground. Fans love alternate characters. Thats what Exiles was about. Thats why the AOA was so popular. Your opinion does not mean everyone shares it.

I know not everyone shares my opinion, which doesn't mean it's any less factual. That's why I said people had bad taste. Anyway, Claremont's not writing the book now and it's still canceled. Guess that means Blink and Morph are not all that popular now, are they?

[Sandy Hausler]

Don't worry, i'd already corrected her.

Yes you did.

And I'm a him (just for the record).

Sandy Hausler

[timbox]

Fans love alternate characters.

Which is why this one lasted six whole issues.

[AcesX1X]

morph digested better when i thought he was sage's multiversal bike messenger.

[jarvSthe1]

I know not everyone shares my opinion, which doesn't mean it's any less factual. That's why I said people had bad taste. Anyway, Claremont's not writing the book now and it's still canceled. Guess that means Blink and Morph are not all that popular now, are they?
Which is why this one lasted six whole issues.
Fans had lost interest before Claremont took over Exiles. Even more fans dropped the book when Clarement was mucked it up. It was already dead before the title was relaunched and it relaunched with a crappy writer. How can it survive past six issues when it never had a chance?

[timbox]

I've never heard of anyone who likes Morph.

[Sandy Hausler]

Actually aside from getting rid of Sage, the best thing about the last issue was removing Proteus from Morph. I thought Claremont's method of dealing with it was clumsy and unrealistic (even for comics).

Sandy Hausler

[darknessatnoon]

I've never heard of anyone who likes Morph.

Josef F. likes Morph. Then again, Josef is into lost causes.

[AcesX1X]

on the contrary, sandy hausler, i think if you re-read your issue, you'll find that sage was preserved for future use.

[frog]

Morph has his moments. He's okay when he's not completely over the top (yeah, I know, he usually is.)

[Sandy Hausler]

on the contrary, sandy hausler, i think if you re-read your issue, you'll find that sage was preserved for future use.

OK, got rid of her for the moment. And hopefully a long moment.

Sandy Hausler

[Sandy Hausler]

Morph has his moments. He's okay when he's not completely over the top (yeah, I know, he usually is.)

Actually, he's at his best when he's over the top.

Sandy Hausler

[Prodigy55]

I love Morph.

[vazel]

Pff, figures. I just finished reading v1 of Exiles which I really liked and the new series is canned. Although not sure how well this new series recovered from Claremont's run.