exiles #6 spoilers & review

[strathcona]

Fans had lost interest before Claremont took over Exiles. Even more fans dropped the book when Clarement was mucked it up. It was already dead before the title was relaunched and it relaunched with a crappy writer. How can it survive past six issues when it never had a chance?

I agree with all the Claremont stuff... he really did kill this title. But it was relaunched with one of the best writers at Marvel today. The problem with the relaunch was that there was no time between the cancelation of New Exiles and the relaunch, most fans hadn't had time enough to cleanse their palates, so they didn't bother with the relaunch. Parker is a great writer and could have done great things with this title.

[AcesX1X]

CC was awful on this book..


but, exiles was dismal before CC even took it over.

[vinniewarlock]

It is really shameful that Exiles ended on issue #6..

What happened to the 12-issue rule?? At least have the decency to keep up for an entire year before dumping the title...

Even though it was short lived, I still believe that it was a very clever and entertaining comic book.

[alf_to_the_rescue]

Very good issue. Bit of a quick wrap up, but needs must I suppose. Liked the multiversal explanations. Liked how the New Exiles got whitewashed nicely.

[vazel]

but, exiles was dismal before CC even took it over.I really don't think so. I just finished reading the entire v1 and the drop in quality was very evident when Claremont took over.

[AcesX1X]

I just finished reading the entire v1 and the drop in quality was very evident when Claremont took over.

and why did he need to "take over?"

[Disco Jess Minge]

and why did he need to "take over?"He didn't need to take over, Marvel gave him the book since they feel obligated to give him something to do when he is under contract with them and that he wrote Dark Phoenix Saga. Anyway, Claremont's run ended a long time ago. Why are we even discussing him?

I really liked the artist in this book. I hope he'll get something high profile soon or do more Wolverine First Class.

[quillero]

He didn't need to take over, Marvel gave him the book since they feel obligated to give him something to do when he is under contract with them and that he wrote Dark Phoenix Saga. Anyway, Claremont's run ended a long time ago. Why are we even discussing him?

I really liked the artist in this book. I hope he'll get something high profile soon or do more Wolverine First Class.

It was genius in theory. He's happy and away from 616. But it killed Exiles, sadly. Wish they had come up with Forever earlier.

[ImpulseUCF]

Wow, a few things.

1) Why are there pages and pages of posts about Sage? She was in like...one panel in all six issues.

2) I thought Parker did a pretty damn good job consolidating all of the different premises and themes behind every iteration of Exiles. He combined them all pretty nicely without really crapping on any ofthem. He even acknowledged the Cockrums from NEX.

3) FINALLY Morph is fixed! That was a HORRIBLE subplot and dangling loose end that was never satisfied. Bedard and CC dropped the ball on that.

4) Exiles started to blow long before Clarmeont got it. Bedard freakin' killed the series, and I'm still a tad resentful over it. It was one of my faves.

5) This was a nice send off to the old cast, who were all acknowledged nicely. It was in the traditional spirit (killed off good Wanda) and introduced a new character - classic Exiles. All of the other casts, NEX included, are in stasis - basically, tucked nicely away in limbo for the next writer who wants to use them. No one was shat on or destroyed or left unresolved/unuseable like Morph had previously been.

I don't get the venom...I thought Parker did pretty damn good with the little time he had and he left everything in a nice neutral holding pattern so they are all ready for the next guy. I enjoyed it, but I agree it was too soon.

[scouse mouse]

Well the series has reached its premature conclusion and I have to congratulate Parker in managing to wrap things up as well as he did with so little time. It was great to see Heather and TJ again, my other two favourite Exiles after Blink, and that stuff from previous runs were resolved. I don't give a toss about the New Exiles team, they can remain as tacky ornaments for ever as far as I'm concerned. The ending gives a glimmer of hope for a possible relaunch a year or so down the line, though I would have liked to see the series continue as a back up feature like they are doing with Agents of Atlas in Hercules. I know its not likely but a guy can dream!

[Oliverhannah]

Spiral did it to Exiles.. that why Maddie use her to against exiles and kidnapped Pyslocke.. Spiral's the one who did it..

[Oliverhannah]

... poor Mystiq :frown: .
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Here Jeff Parker calls Sage ugly.

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GIRLS - Maddie and Spiral!!:eek:

[Sandy Hausler]

3) FINALLY Morph is fixed! That was a HORRIBLE subplot and dangling loose end that was never satisfied. Bedard and CC dropped the ball on that.

Claremont actually did "resolve" the Morph situation. It just wasn't a very good resolution. I'm with you in your satisfaction with the way Parker dealt with it.

Sandy Hausler

[Sandy Hausler]

I would have liked to see the series continue as a back up feature like they are doing with Agents of Atlas in Hercules. I know its not likely but a guy can dream!

That's not a bad idea, but a backup to what? Please not one of the (other) X-books. I haven't wanted to read one in years.

Though maybe it would work as a backup to X-Factor. I don't read it currently, but in that Peter David writes it, having the Exiles as a backup might be the push I need to pick it up.

Sandy Hausler

[CrimsonComedian]

I'd give this a 6 out of 10. I loved this team.. Blink and Polaris were really great all throughout this series. Only character I really didn't like was Beast. He was pretty worthless but then again I don't really like MU either. I didn't like this last issue, just way too much talking the last 1/3rd of it.. Got really tough to go through the pages especially as someone who really doesn't have much of an interest in the multiverse.

[Raptor]

I liked the series. I even liked all of the characters. Panther got just a tad annoying once he was unmasked. It was like he felt like being more annoying than annoying/mysterious.

I liked the nod to the original Exiles also.

That said, as much as I love Exiles...I hope it never happens again. It felt much like a movie, that had sequels...and those sequels couldn't compare properly to the original...therefore the series got a bad name. (deserved or not)

I also hope to see Blink and Nocturne in other comics, that would please me muchly.

Joe Q told us we'd be seeing more of Blink soon. This pleases me to no end. (I just hope it wasn't reffering to 616 Blink via Necrosha.

[ImpulseUCF]

Claremont actually did "resolve" the Morph situation. It just wasn't a very good resolution. I'm with you in your satisfaction with the way Parker dealt with it.Claremont certainly did not "resolve" it. He addressed it, sure, but just further muddied and complicated it. Parker actually resolved the problem altogether.

[DeadXMan]

Claremont actually did "resolve" the Morph situation. It just wasn't a very good resolution. I'm with you in your satisfaction with the way Parker dealt with it.

Sandy Hausler

soooo your saying taping an Omega mutant of pure energy that can manipulate the palace to his will and trapping him into said palace is better then him finding purpose in life?:confused:

[darknessatnoon]

soooo your saying taping an Omega mutant of pure energy that can manipulate the palace to his will and trapping him into said palace is better then him finding purpose in life?:confused:

That's a confusing summary. I can't tell what Sandy is saying when filtered through you. Is there any way to be clearer?

[DeadXMan]

well darkness, maybe you just need admit I'm smarter then then you. :wink:

( not in spelling, but in understanding how everything works)

[Sandy Hausler]

Claremont certainly did not "resolve" it. He addressed it, sure, but just further muddied and complicated it. Parker actually resolved the problem altogether.

Tomatoes, to-mah-toes.

I agree that he did not deal with it well, but at the end of the story, we did not have to worry about Proteus destroying the multiverse, which, as far as I was concerned, resolved the plotline. I, like you, was not very satisfied with that story.

Sandy Hausler

[Sandy Hausler]

soooo your saying taping an Omega mutant of pure energy that can manipulate the palace to his will and trapping him into said palace is better then him finding purpose in life?:confused:

No, I see it as being dead. I don't expect to see this Proteus again. If Sage were not from 616, I'd say the same about her.

Sandy Hausler

[Archer]

I recently re-read the whole Judd Winnick run, and wow, I don't think I've ever been so glad to see a series end as I am now.

When it started, it was a brilliant read, with actual believable characters and actual character development . . . for some considerable time now Exiles/New Exiles hasn't had any of that, it's just had a set of costumes and powers doing arbitrary things while giving speeches.

Fewer bad titles on the shelves is a good thing. The depressing thing is that so often Marvel seems to think a good story is lots of powers and costumes and bad guys and backstory, and forgets that a good story is just believable characters doing meaningful things for a good reason.

Bye bye Exiles, I'll miss ya, but it's a shame you didn't go out with a bang instead of such a generic whimper.


Chris Claremont saved Exiles by bringing in real 616 characters about whom the reader could care.

The original Exiles were characters who I cared about.

The Claremont Exiles, and the Exiles from the volume that just ended, were hardly even characters at all. They lacked distinguishing personalities, they didn't seem to make any real choices, they were just cyphers in costumes with familiar names.

Mimic going from confident, super-popular leader to nearly having a nervous breakdown over all the shit he'd been through, for example, was one of the best points of the original series and IMO one of the most enjoyable character arcs in any comic in recent years. Same with Morph gradually revealing himself to be quite a deep and thoughtful person and showing genuine compassion to teammates in some tense moments, rather than just being an idiot joker. Or Thunderbird battling with whether or not he was a monster. Etc etc.

Real characters, making real choices, being affected by them. In other words: drama.

Magnus' sacrifice in the very first story, with his final wish that Magneto not be told who he was, was more moving than absolutely everything that happened in all of volumes 2 and 3.

[AcesX1X]

thunderbird was a monster. it was an essential part of his character.

[Kent H]

Yes, what these haters don't seem to understand is that Sage breaks all the rules of comics. Obviously, that's why they hate her so much. And no-name Jeff Parker is a nothing in the industry compared to CC: there's no way someone like him can keep CC's greatest creation down.

This is a joke, right? There's no way anyone can type this seriously, right?

Right?


After what he just did to X-23, I don't want Yost anywhere near Sage.

What, make her into a worth reading about character? I can see how that would be a problem ...

[RolandJP]

This is a joke, right? There's no way anyone can type this seriously, right?

Right?



What, make her into a worth reading about character? I can see how that would be a problem ...


Clearly a chain was yanked. Kyle and Yost are excellent writers.

[coveredinbees]

What, make her into a worth reading about character? I can see how that would be a problem ...
Sage can't regrow or attach limbs, and is always worth reading no matter the quality of writer.

[scouse mouse]

With the announcement of “Web of Spider-Man” along with the premature cancellation of “Exiles,” I got to thinking: do you think there is any possibility for a “Web of Spider-Man”-type book for the X-universe? The recent minis that followed this format (“Manifest Destiny,” “Divided We Stand”) have sold well, and this would also be an ideal spot to continue Jeff Parker's “Exiles” as a backup feature!

NICK LOWE:
Sorry to disappoint you that “Exiles” won’t be in there, but if you want to see some Jeff Parker X-Stuff, definitely pick up the “X-Men/Agents of Atlas” mini that’s coming up. And I’m also planning a “Life of Nick Lowe” anthology that is sure to please. See such exciting chapters as “Nick Goes Streaking in College,” “Nick Gets Locked Out on Fire Escape,” and “Nick Gets Fired By Axel for Somehow Publishing Biographical Anthology as X-Book.”

Well thats it for the Exiles. I was hoping that they could continue in some sort of back up feature. What a damn shame!

[frogoat]

Wow, a few things.

1) Why are there pages and pages of posts about Sage? She was in like...one panel in all six issues.

2) I thought Parker did a pretty damn good job consolidating all of the different premises and themes behind every iteration of Exiles. He combined them all pretty nicely without really crapping on any ofthem. He even acknowledged the Cockrums from NEX.

3) FINALLY Morph is fixed! That was a HORRIBLE subplot and dangling loose end that was never satisfied. Bedard and CC dropped the ball on that.

4) Exiles started to blow long before Clarmeont got it. Bedard freakin' killed the series, and I'm still a tad resentful over it. It was one of my faves.

5) This was a nice send off to the old cast, who were all acknowledged nicely. It was in the traditional spirit (killed off good Wanda) and introduced a new character - classic Exiles. All of the other casts, NEX included, are in stasis - basically, tucked nicely away in limbo for the next writer who wants to use them. No one was shat on or destroyed or left unresolved/unuseable like Morph had previously been.

I don't get the venom...I thought Parker did pretty damn good with the little time he had and he left everything in a nice neutral holding pattern so they are all ready for the next guy. I enjoyed it, but I agree it was too soon.

You've pretty much summed up my thoughts on the issue. Although, I think Bedard did a good job, he did sort of fade out at the end...

And Jeff Parker made sure to explain everything so now it all makes sense!:biggrin: Wish he'd been given a longer run, but at least he cleaned it up and set up a nice pattern for the next guy, as you say.