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VRaptorX
08-31-2009, 08:54 AM
http://www.newsarama.com/comics/090831-disney-acquire-marvel.html

Cloudman
08-31-2009, 08:58 AM
Oh crap. Oh crap oh crap oh crap.

Cloudman
08-31-2009, 08:59 AM
I suppose at least Marvel will now have an almost limitless supply of funds.

spacepatate15
08-31-2009, 09:06 AM
I think the disney deal only affect movies,tv show and videogames and even so,it doesn`t prevent others publishers games or movies to be made,it just that disney now suport it.

The ultimate universe wont be affected but because disney make stuff like cartoon,have their own channel and also make movies,they could easily make movies about the ultimate universe.

KangarooOnTheLoose
08-31-2009, 10:34 AM
They just bought Marvel Studios now though, right? Only the movies, tv shows and games will be Disnefied. Right?

Right?

Free-Man
08-31-2009, 10:47 AM
For those of you who won't stop bitching about Disney kiddying up Marvel, these are all Disney properties:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/82/Pulp_Fiction_cover.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/46/Kill_bill_vol_two_ver.jpg

http://www.bite.ca/mtBlog/archives/clerks.jpg

supamike
08-31-2009, 10:51 AM
incredibles vs the x-men!! I got $10 on jack jack!

KangarooOnTheLoose
08-31-2009, 10:53 AM
For those of you who won't stop bitching about Disney kiddying up Marvel, these are all Disney properties:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/82/Pulp_Fiction_cover.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/46/Kill_bill_vol_two_ver.jpg

http://www.bite.ca/mtBlog/archives/clerks.jpg

Those are Tarantino and Kevin Smith movies. Not even Disney could kiddify them.

Free-Man
08-31-2009, 10:58 AM
Those are Tarantino and Kevin Smith movies. Not even Disney could kiddify them.

That's irrelevant. Disney owns Miramax, a studio that has been pushing out PG-13 and R rated films for years now.

If they were worried about things being too mature, they wouldn'tve bought them in the first place.

Watchtower
08-31-2009, 11:14 AM
I don't see why the ultimate universe would be affected at all. If anything, Disney should be thankful there's streamlined versions of Marvel characters.

Splatt
08-31-2009, 12:16 PM
Heh, I guess this means they'll have to censor Nick Fury's dialogue. It can be just like the TV edition of Snakes on a Plane :biggrin:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4t6zNZ-b0A

Hahahaha

Alan2099
08-31-2009, 12:40 PM
How does the Disney buy-out effect the Ultimate Universe?
The stories and content will remain completley the same only now everyone will be drawn to look like ducks.

Expletive Deleted
08-31-2009, 01:15 PM
All future Ultimate comic books will be written by self-aware iPhone apps and printed on notebook paper. They will feature color-coded stick figures who speak only in nonsensical, non-sequitur catchphrases.

Somehow, this will still be better than ULTIMATUM.

Doug_Brunell
08-31-2009, 01:29 PM
It's far too early to tell how, if at all, this will affect anything Marvel. As with any business venture, there are good and bad possibilities. Funding and exposure are good things. Public image and lack of return on the dollar can be bad. I've covered the very basics in my blog (mainly because I was just reacting to the news), but until we see more about the deal and see what happens, I don't think we can make a full assessment.

Initial feeling: This is not good.

Watchtower
08-31-2009, 03:38 PM
After giving it some thought about this whole acquisition thing. I can only hope that none of Marvel's comics or movie content be altered in any way by Disney. Otherwise, why purchase the Marvel characters in the first place, if they're going to just turn Spider-Man into the next Mickey Mouse and be G rated only.

The Ultimate universe in particular since that's where the more edgier material of mainstream Marvel characters will appear. Especially with the new refocus after Ultimatum. It would be a shame if there was censorship of any kind like what happened to the Authority at DC/WB, though understandable in many ways too.

NickGuy
08-31-2009, 03:51 PM
Darkwing Duck on the Avengers

Stony
08-31-2009, 08:26 PM
http://www.newsarama.com/comics/090831-disney-acquire-marvel.html

Don't just link and bail, what do you think?

SpideyZERO
08-31-2009, 09:02 PM
Probably won't affect the comic too much. But I hope Disney won't kiddify any major Marvel movie so to attract more young audiences

The Master Meglomaniac
08-31-2009, 09:52 PM
The answer is clear, this deal means we will see Ultimate Mickey Mouse really soon. :tongue:

VRaptorX
08-31-2009, 10:04 PM
Don't just link and bail, what do you think?

I think it's way to early to tell since we have stuff already planned out. Any changes would not come until 2010. At worst Disney will want to capitalize on the saturday morning cartoon flavor so they'll do some slight censorship and maybe a few added retcons or reversals....but those returns would likely just get shoved away as side characters that make only a cameo every now and then anyway if forced to so it's not like it would make a big difference. And Loeb would be better under someone saying, "no, you can't do that." I don't foresee too much struggle creatively to where it hurts the comic.

The only thing that will really be effected by this is maybe some Marvel in the next Kingdom Hearts game and all the marvel rides at Universal Studios will be gone...sadly. I loved that Spidey ride.

ijffdrie
08-31-2009, 10:42 PM
i doubt they'd change any of the planned movies, maybe plan a new one for kids, a new saturday morning cartoon, and of course collect the money from the comics.

no biggie

Don Yoyo
08-31-2009, 11:24 PM
I just have an irrational fear that something big like that might the new beginning of the UロUltimate Universe. Won't happen, I know, but still.

spacepatate15
09-01-2009, 04:57 AM
I just have an irrational fear that something big like that might the new beginning of the UロUltimate Universe. Won't happen, I know, but still.I already know what will happen;

new ultimates;it will suck even more than jeph previous series

spider-man;it will be still awessome

avengers;As long as mark millar write it,it going to rock.

And armor wars look like a fun read so i reccomand this as well.

Outside of that they is jeph upcomming project who will suck just as badly but right now the line seem to be in good shape.

KangarooOnTheLoose
09-01-2009, 05:27 AM
I already know what will happen;

new ultimates;it will suck even more than jeph previous series

spider-man;it will be still awessome

avengers;As long as mark millar write it,it going to rock.

And armor wars look like a fun read so i reccomand this as well.

Outside of that they is jeph upcomming project who will suck just as badly but right now the line seem to be in good shape.

I'm always the first to hate on Loeb, but you can't predict anything about the New Ultimates. Frank Cho's doing the art, and it looks pretty cool. Plus, Loeb isn't in charge of an event comic this time. I'm sure Ultimatum wouldn't have been nearly as talked about if it hadn't been the end of the Ultimate Universe's line and the birth of the Ultimate Comics' line. People would have just dismissed it as another annoying and poorly written mini, then hoped that the UU would redeem istself. Unfortunately, due to poor sales of other titles, Ultimatum had to end the UU. I just hope Ultimate Comics will do better.

Jacob B
09-01-2009, 06:00 AM
Disney buying out Marvel does not just affect the ultimate universe but the entire Marvel universe. It sucks. We'll see the Incredible Hulk alongside Micky Mouse, we'll see Dr. Doom and Jafar, we'll see the Beast from beauty and the beast and the Beast from X-men.

Alan2099
09-01-2009, 07:07 AM
Disney buying out Marvel does not just affect the ultimate universe but the entire Marvel universe. It sucks. We'll see the Incredible Hulk alongside Micky Mouse, we'll see Dr. Doom and Jafar, we'll see the Beast from beauty and the beast and the Beast from X-men.
I'm not seeing the part where that sucks.

Wolverine12
09-01-2009, 07:44 AM
I'm taking the stance of "wait and see." Disney isn't dumb they obviously saw that Marvel was doing well and they probably just want to cash in on that success. I think it could be a good thing to have all Marvel Movies under one roof because it opens up they possibilites for more crossovers like in Iron Man and Hulk. I'm imagining a crazy Avengers vs X-Men movie (that would be epic but it's all a dream). I'd imagine we won't see much change in actual comics.

Jacob B
09-01-2009, 08:33 AM
I'm not seeing the part where that sucks.

I just don't think the characters fit in or go together at all.

KangarooOnTheLoose
09-01-2009, 10:38 AM
I'm not seeing the part where that sucks.

What? You think those would be good movies?!?

Alan2099
09-01-2009, 11:07 AM
What? You think those would be good movies?!?
I think they could be entertaining and fun. Of course I may be in the minority these days, but "fun" is one of those things I still look for in comics and "taking itself far too seriously" is not.

LordEd1976
09-01-2009, 11:38 AM
Too bad Ultimate Blob died in ULTIMATUM. Then he could keep his urge to eat tiny winged people going by consuming Tinkerbell.

FeminineMystique
09-01-2009, 11:41 AM
I'm always the first to hate on Loeb, but you can't predict anything about the New Ultimates. Frank Cho's doing the art, and it looks pretty cool. Plus, Loeb isn't in charge of an event comic this time. I'm sure Ultimatum wouldn't have been nearly as talked about if it hadn't been the end of the Ultimate Universe's line and the birth of the Ultimate Comics' line. People would have just dismissed it as another annoying and poorly written mini, then hoped that the UU would redeem istself. Unfortunately, due to poor sales of other titles, Ultimatum had to end the UU. I just hope Ultimate Comics will do better.

Loeb also wrote Ultimates 3 and Rulk, neither of them "Event" comics and both were some of the worst things I've ever read. And that's including All Star Batman and Robin.

And Ultimatum hasn't "Ended" anything, all the titles are pretty much going on as if nothing ever happened. A few slight cosmetic changes and that's about it.


I think they could be entertaining and fun. Of course I may be in the minority these days, but "fun" is one of those things I still look for in comics and "taking itself far too seriously" is not.

Darling, Disney aren't going to be suddenly dictating to Marvel what they can and can't do in their comics so if you didn't enjoy them before, you won't enjoy them now

Rorysm
09-01-2009, 01:00 PM
I'd bet you can expect more and more added to the line as Disney doesn't really know how to do anything but pump original ideas for money. Go look at how Mickey Mouse was treated and lost as a movie character and turned into a back-pack/kids sippie/pajamas character. I guess we'll see some kiddy show like "Captain America and Spiderman teach you how to count" ala the Mickey MOuse Clubhouse show on nowadays.
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VRaptorX
09-01-2009, 01:59 PM
<i>And Ultimatum hasn't "Ended" anything, all the titles are pretty much going on as if nothing ever happened. A few slight cosmetic changes and that's about it.</i>


*cough* UXM.

spacepatate15
09-01-2009, 02:39 PM
I'm always the first to hate on Loeb, but you can't predict anything about the New Ultimates. Frank Cho's doing the art, and it looks pretty cool. Plus, Loeb isn't in charge of an event comic this time. I'm sure Ultimatum wouldn't have been nearly as talked about if it hadn't been the end of the Ultimate Universe's line and the birth of the Ultimate Comics' line. People would have just dismissed it as another annoying and poorly written mini, then hoped that the UU would redeem istself. Unfortunately, due to poor sales of other titles, Ultimatum had to end the UU. I just hope Ultimate Comics will do better.Well for first issues,avengers and spider-man have sold out every of their copy^villain variant,sketch varient and the special varient inclued^and they are doing a second reprint for these and the ultimate books seem to be some of the big spotlight when it come to their release.

Me i think it sucsess will be easier and easier over time.The 616 world is starting to feel stale and secret invasion and dark reign are doing anything else than helping it.Most of the books and story start to be dull,and yet another crossover which is lame as hell^im refering to utopia^and you have shit there and there.I enjoyed the americain son story arc of asm and the 600 issues but im starting to feel like skipping books and im losing interest over these characters by time.It kind of suffering the same fate as the ultimate universe suffered when cheap ass mini-series and non-sense in their books as well.

I think the ultimate line will be a sucsess once again,mainly because they still know how to make stuffs different and unique^spider-man be venered like a god,a public and black ops ultimate teams,tony stark brother,the first hulk,nick fury having a ex-wife who is also a member in his team,mary jane taking the role of gwen from spectacular spider-man,red skull as captain america son^

About new ultimates,i love how valkyrie and iron man were done,i like their look.But i feel like i can already predict the story and it still look like a big messy action book with one dimensionnal characters,hence why ultimates 3 sucked.But i may give it a try if i heard it getting good reviews but i wouldn`t raise my hope yet.And i dont like the direction hawkeye is taking,he seem more like a male version of black window rather than hawkeye.He is supposed to use mostly a bow and sometime use other projectiles but now he seem like a knock off and i dont like that,it make me wish jeph would have tied a little more with ultimate comics avengers and bring black window and hawkeye in the team instead.

FeminineMystique
09-05-2009, 09:29 AM
<i>And Ultimatum hasn't "Ended" anything, all the titles are pretty much going on as if nothing ever happened. A few slight cosmetic changes and that's about it.</i>


*cough* UXM.

By "Anything" I was speaking about the Ultimate Universe as a whole darling. The poster I was replying to seemed to be saying that everything that had come before had come to an end which obviously isn't true.

And I give it a year, at most, before we get another UXM book of some kind

theSuperAlbino
09-05-2009, 08:15 PM
I'd bet you can expect more and more added to the line as Disney doesn't really know how to do anything but pump original ideas for money. Go look at how Mickey Mouse was treated and lost as a movie character and turned into a back-pack/kids sippie/pajamas character. I guess we'll see some kiddy show like "Captain America and Spiderman teach you how to count" ala the Mickey MOuse Clubhouse show on nowadays.
Do you understand how businesses work? Disney is not going to destroy everything that makes Marvel good, go take a look at everything Disney owns and tell me how much of it get's messed up when Disney bought it. Nothing is going to happen to our precious comics. Also, Marvel already has stuff like pajamas and backpacks out.

KangarooOnTheLoose
09-06-2009, 05:28 AM
By "Anything" I was speaking about the Ultimate Universe as a whole darling. The poster I was replying to seemed to be saying that everything that had come before had come to an end which obviously isn't true.


I wasn't really saying that, I just meant that it was the thing that ended the Ultimate Universe and begun the Ultimate Comics line. Along with the crappiness of Ultimatum, we now have new artists, new stories and new characters to discover, argue about and generally get excited over. Ultimatum did change a lot, and you could say those changes were coming anyway, but it's Ultimatum that we remember as the bridge from USM to UCSM, Ultimates to Ultimate Avengers etc.

BrotherCool
09-08-2009, 06:26 AM
i doubt they'd change any of the planned movies, maybe plan a new one for kids, a new saturday morning cartoon, and of course collect the money from the comics.

no biggie

They need to move The Spectacular Spider-man back to Saturday morning (as it was with the 1st season on WB/CW) and put it on ABC or Disney, and then I'll be happy. I missed the whole 2nd Season since Disney/Marvel/Sony put it XD.

OrpheusTelos
09-08-2009, 10:51 AM
Maybe it means some of the characters who died magically come back to life.

SamBot
09-22-2009, 09:05 AM
Knowing Disney, they won't fix what's not broken. IF people respond well to the buyout and continue to purchase UU books, Disney will let Marvel do it's thing.

By the way, Disney now has Disney World, DisneyLand, all the Disney parks in all the other countries, the TV channel, the movies, now Marvel Comics, and I've heard a rumor that Disney has purchased or wants to buy out Universal Studios? What will Disney take next? Sorry to get off track... :(

SamBot
09-22-2009, 09:08 AM
I'd bet you can expect more and more added to the line as Disney doesn't really know how to do anything but pump original ideas for money. Go look at how Mickey Mouse was treated and lost as a movie character and turned into a back-pack/kids sippie/pajamas character. I guess we'll see some kiddy show like "Captain America and Spiderman teach you how to count" ala the Mickey MOuse Clubhouse show on nowadays.
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Disney won't do that to Marvel. At least not yet. Marvel is like an well and Disney is the owner that draws water from it. The well's still full from books and movies. Once that dries up THEN expect Spider-Man teaming up with Mickey Mouse to explain to children that the Jonas Brothers are the end-all, be-all of the planet.

SamBot
09-22-2009, 09:10 AM
Darkwing Duck on the Avengers

Darkwing Duck! Man, I miss him. LOL.