Anybody a fan of Jim Starlin's Batman

[Vigilante Man]

I thought he wrote a really good Batman. The Cult is one of my favorite Batman stories. I also liked his Batman in Cosmic Odyssey.

[Captain Jim]

I'm a BIG fan of Starlin's science fiction stuff, but I'm afraid I didn't care much for his Batman work at all.

[Babylon23]

I absolutely love the Cult and I'm a fan of A Death in the Family as well. The rest of his stuff was solid but not brilliant.

[WorstThingUS]

His work in the giant size Detective Comics in the 70's was better than anything he did in the 80's.

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[jgiannantoni05]

Love Starlin's Batman work. The Cult is great, and I think Starlin's best Batman story. But I also love A Death in the Family. And he had some good single issues.

Starlin is just a great and a versatile writer. He could do space stories with Thanos, and could do Batman stories.

[Slackjaws_ate_my_brain]

A Death in the family, while being historically significant (both to the character and because of the reader-poll), never really did it for me. Especially the end with the UN "Diplomatic Immunity" BS. Just not my cup of tea.

[jgiannantoni05]

Especially the end with the UN "Diplomatic Immunity" BS. Just not my cup of tea.
I loved it. ADITF is a fun more Silver Agey anomaly to the generally more street level post-COIE Batman stories. I love it, it's so 80's to me. Diplomatic immunity...lol...just like when the bad guys in Lethal Weapon II invoked it. So many political 80's jokes in ADITF.

[carabas]

I liked 'the Cult' (although how he got away with a mind-addled Batman shooting some people dead...), but the rest of his stuff is very questionable.

Never cared for his science fiction stuff either. It is very un-sciencefictioney.

[dancj]

The Cult was very good, but I found the rest of his Batman stuff to be pretty poor.

[Jim Thompson]

I thought he wrote a really good Batman. The Cult is one of my favorite Batman stories. I also liked his Batman in Cosmic Odyssey.I think his Batman work was good to very good -- and often under-appreciated. In addition to the two stories you've mentioned here, I thought Ten Nights of the Beast was a great story, too. His Batman managed to come across as a thorough professional.

I've always been pretty partial to Starlin's work, though. Just ordered his Warlock collection from Marvel the other day, which I think was a fantastic story.

[Jim Thompson]

I thought he wrote a really good Batman. The Cult is one of my favorite Batman stories. I also liked his Batman in Cosmic Odyssey.I think his Batman work was good to very good -- and often under-appreciated. In addition to the two stories you've mentioned here, I thought Ten Nights of the Beast was a great story, too. His Batman managed to come across as a thorough professional.

I've always been pretty partial to Starlin's work, though. Just ordered his Warlock collection from Marvel the other day, which I think was a fantastic story.

[Mia]

Jim Starlin is one of my top three favourite Batman writers, along with Rucka and Grant Morisson. He's one of the few Batman writers who wrote a multi-faceted Batman. I volunteered at a con some years ago just to get him to sign my TPB edition of 'The Cult'.

[Sean Whitmore]

I love Starlin's Batman, and not just the bigger stuff like Death in the Family and Cult. One of my favorite issues is a Millenium crossover where Batman and Robin battle a Gordon Manhunter.

I especially liked how Starlin wrote a Jason Todd who was reckless, but in a "teen sidekick testing his limits" kind of way. Not the unlikeable-little-punk-who-was-destined-to-fall-hard we see in so many flashbacks nowadays.


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[Mat001]

I've only read most of his 80's run, but I quite enjoyed it.

[Vigilante Man]

I also enjoy A Death in the Family and Ten Nights of The Beast. Starlin's Batman was heroic but also vulnerable. This made for an entertaining read. He's probably one of the most underrated Batman writers. The Cult is a classic imo.

[RubberLotus]

Me, I have no great love for Death in the Family. The "diplomatic immunity" may have been Silver Age-y, but it doesn't mesh well with a brutal murder that looks like it belongs in the darkest depths of the Dark Age.

And honestly: The Joker being hired as ambassador of Iran? I found it a bit hard to swallow. Every step of the way, it was like the story couldn't decide whether it was Silver Age or Dark Age, and the art certainly didn't help.

[WorstThingUS]

Me, I have no great love for Death in the Family. The "diplomatic immunity" may have been Silver Age-y, but it doesn't mesh well with a brutal murder that looks like it belongs in the darkest depths of the Dark Age.

And honestly: The Joker being hired as ambassador of Iran? I found it a bit hard to swallow. Every step of the way, it was like the story couldn't decide whether it was Silver Age or Dark Age, and the art certainly didn't help.

It was awful from start to finish. All sound and fury signifying nothing.

[nepenthes]

this is why I've been been adovcating a re-telling of Death in the Family for a while now - the quality of the story falls FAR short of its importance in the overall mythology.

For example a synopis of the events reads better than book itself - and that's just wrong. Anything containing terrorists, gun runners, helicopter fire fights, Lady Shiva, mystery in the Middle East, Superman vs Batman or explosions in refugee camps should never feel so goofy to read. A straight up reworking, or told through a different pov as part of a larger story, whatever, just give it the impact it deserves



Every step of the way, it was like the story couldn't decide whether it was Silver Age or Dark Age, and the art certainly didn't help.

i think that's very true

[jgiannantoni05]

And honestly: The Joker being hired as ambassador of Iran? I found it a bit hard to swallow. Every step of the way, it was like the story couldn't decide whether it was Silver Age or Dark Age, and the art certainly didn't help.
What I love about ADITF is that it manages to be Dark Agey and Silver Agey in the same story. Jason's death was brutal and Dark Agey, then Joker becoming ambassador of Iran and being protected by diplomatic immunity is exaggeratedly fun and Silver Agey. And I love Jim Aparo's art, so I have to disagree there also. So, I love ADITF.

Sometimes, I think some people take Batman comics too seriously. I think they miss the fun of comics. I know Grant Morrison thinks this.

[dupersuper]

I like a lot of his single issues, but Batman SHOOTING A HOLE IN THE ALIEN in CO always bugged me (though I like the story as a whole). Death in the Family, while historically important, was often lame. In addition to the whole "Joker gets diplomatic immunity" gag already mentioned, there's a point where Bruce calls to Jason "This way! I've a landrover!" My friend and I used to crack up saying that line in a cheesy british accent. I've never read Cult.

[Vigilante Man]

The death of the alien in CO never bothered me. I always thought there was no other alternative for Batman. If I remember correctly the alien suddenly leaped at Batman and he only had a brief moment to act. I don't believe Batman should kill but it seemed to be the only thing he could do in this situation to save his own hide. I also admire The mix of silver age and dark age in A Death in the Family. I thought it worked quite well and the story had great drama.

[thor25]

personally I love Batman # 424 whe Jason Tood aparentely Kill the son of a diploamtic..

and I agree with this..


Me, I have no great love for Death in the Family. The "diplomatic immunity" may have been Silver Age-y, but it doesn't mesh well with a brutal murder that looks like it belongs in the darkest depths of the Dark Age.

And honestly: The Joker being hired as ambassador of Iran? I found it a bit hard to swallow. Every step of the way, it was like the story couldn't decide whether it was Silver Age or Dark Age, and the art certainly didn't help.

It was awful from start to finish. All sound and fury signifying nothing.

[dupersuper]

personally I love Batman # 424 when Jason Todd aparently kills the son of a diploamat.


That was a good 1.