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Charles RB
08-24-2009, 04:31 AM
Well, if you're American, anyway - investigations into the "supernote" (highly convincing counterfeit $100's) have turned up that North Korea is heavily involved in printing them and funnelling them through the international criminal underworld. (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/counterfeiting-notes-on-a-scandal-1776329.html)


The printing of supernotes is overseen by an organisation called Office 39, which runs state-sponsored criminal activities and is housed in a plain, barracks-like building on Changgwant Street in Pyongyang (the proceeds of these operations are managed by Office 38, which is located in the same building). Estimates are that illegal exports from North Korea, including counterfeit money, methamphetamine, fake pharmaceuticals and weapons amount to $500m per year - a sum that equals or exceeds the value of the country's legitimate exports.


The supernote has a place of honour in North Korea's criminal economy. The main printing plant is housed at 62 Printing House, an address that suggests that it is located in Pyongyang city; the building is actually located in Pyongsung. According to a North Korean defector who worked for the central committee of the Communist Party, the workers who produce the supernote get superior food rations that include 600 grams of rice a day as well as "family food". The presses used to produce the supernote come from a company called De la rue Giori in Switzerland, with additional equipment from Japan, paper from Hong Kong and ink from France. Because their identity cards list them as citizens of Pyongyang, they are allowed to travel to the capital.


A South Korean analyst told me that there are two other plants inside North Korea where fake currency is produced - the Song Shin printing factory, which is under the control of the North Korean army reconnoitering corps, and a second plant using Austrian printing machinery that is under the control of the Communist Party Central Committee. While the counterfeiting operations exist to make money, the analyst explained, they are also motivated by a healthy dose of anti-Americanism as well as by North Korea's state philosophy of juche, or self-reliance. "Juche means that North Korea can and should produce for itself anything that the rest of the world can produce," the analyst explained. "If other nations have missiles, then North Korea should have missiles. If America produces dollars, which are the world's reserve currency, North Korea must produce its own dollars."

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The question of why North Korea continues to produce the supernote has a simple answer: because they can. "Crime is a very lucrative business," says David Asher. "If you are a nation and you can deal drugs and print someone else's currency, you can make a lot of money."

Mister Blisterfists
08-24-2009, 04:37 AM
so, if we know where they are, why haven't we bombed the piss out of them?

Charles RB
08-24-2009, 04:49 AM
so, if we know where they are, why haven't we bombed the piss out of them?

Because that'd be an act of war against a country who'd bomb every US-friendly state it could reach in retaliation.

Those states would include South Korea and Japan, key regional allies full of American citizens, American military bases, and American business interests.

Plex
08-24-2009, 05:51 AM
It's about time something was finally done with this country other than treat its completely insane dictator as a spoiled child that is craving attention from its parents. I think a really good spanking is in order here.

Alan Lynch
08-24-2009, 06:28 AM
so, if we know where they are, why haven't we bombed the piss out of them?
A carefully considered approach to international politics there.

FeminineMystique
08-24-2009, 10:21 AM
so, if we know where they are, why haven't we bombed the piss out of them?

Because America, despite what some people may believe, doesn't have the right to attack and invade sovereign countries? (Unless of course their sitting on lots of oil:rolleyes: )

K-DoG7p7
08-24-2009, 10:23 AM
Ohh North Korea.. look! they are trying to be Iran!

Lester C.
08-24-2009, 11:00 AM
With technology being what it is, I'm surprised how rare counterfeiting is.

mgs
08-24-2009, 01:51 PM
obviously they're not up on the most recent press...all we have to do is test the bill for cocaine. If it's not on it, then it should be shredded as counterfeit! :biggrin:

Mister Blisterfists
08-24-2009, 02:44 PM
Because that'd be an act of war against a country who'd bomb every US-friendly state it could reach in retaliation.

Those states would include South Korea and Japan, key regional allies full of American citizens, American military bases, and American business interests.

okay, let me put it a different way.

why haven't we covertly bombed the piss out of them?

we do THAT all the damn time.

Charles RB
08-24-2009, 03:14 PM
Because everyone would know it was the US who'd done it.

Mister Blisterfists
08-24-2009, 03:17 PM
how?

people would ASSUME, but I hardly think it's just US Currency being counterfeited.

and if you don't think the US performs covert ops like this on a regular basis, you're mistaken.

Charles RB
08-24-2009, 03:59 PM
and if you don't think the US performs covert ops like this on a regular basis

Okay, where does America perform covert ops involving targeted bombings on a regular basis? And how many are done without the other country knowing who it was, especially if it's a target that it's America that would primarily want gone?

And how will it work for North Korea, an extremely paranoid and security-saturated state? Are you sure North Korea won't publicly announce it if they catch your guys? Special forces are not magic, they're fully capable of a big fuck-up.