Godzilla

[Gabe99]

The King of the Monsters is back! It's been over 10 years since the last American Godzilla movie. I'm very excited and also a little nervous. I hope the producers have learned from the mistakes of the 1998 film.

From BD:The Mighty 'Godzilla' Will Roar Once More! (http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/17061)


55 years and 28 movies later, the Japanese monster Godzilla is looking to make his return to big screens everywhere. Making his first appearance in 1954 (Gojira) Godzilla is a giant monster that lives in the sea that comes from the ocean to feed on mankind. Bloody Disgusting has learned exclusively that Legendary Pictures is looking to do another major movie with the iconic horror monster (they are in early discussions), although there are NO details at this point other than this should be a reboot. In 1998, TriStar Pictures produced a remake set in New York City, directed by Roland Emmerich and starring Matthew Broderick. In recent interviews for 2012 Emmerich has said that he's not interested in sequels (even though all of his disaster movies are basically the same).

From AICN:
Oh, Boy...Is Legendary Pictures Gearing Up For A GODZILLA Reboot?? (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/42043)
From /film:
Rumor: New Godzilla Movie in Discussion Stage at Legendary Pictures? (http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/08/13/rumor-new-godzilla-movie-in-discussion-stage-at-legendary-pictures/)
From FirstShowing.net:
Rumor: Legendary Pictures Developing New Godzilla Movie?! (http://www.firstshowing.net/2009/08/13/rumor-legendary-pictures-developing-new-godzilla-movie/)
From twitch:
Godzilla to return to the US to wreck havoc again? yes please. (http://twitchfilm.net/site/view/godzilla-to-return-to-the-us-to-wreck-havoc-again-yes-please/)

[Sighphi]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooo
American Godzilla movies.

These Hollywood folks dont understand the concept of Kaiju!!

[PsychoGoatee]

Hopefully this time they keep Godzilla as an awesome badass who breathes atomic fire, and they keep a fun tone similar to those in the recent Japanese sequels, like GMK.

[neonle]

In this film the motive of the godzilla should be saving people from dangerous animals .you can even add new characters who are favour to godzilla and helping it to fight against the dangerous animals.

[Stressfactor]

For those who want an AWESOME (and funny) overview of the ENTIRE Godzilla (Gojira) film series check out YouTube's Cinemassacre's eight part Godzillathon. Starts here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Avc4AS3AvcA

Beware, though, some NSFW language used.

[RolandJP]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6d/Godzillastar.jpg

[MarvelKnight]

Looks like I have a legitimate reason to go to Hollywood.

[The Zapper]

I really want this to turn out awesome. I've loved Godzilla my whole life and would love to see an American Godzilla that lived up to the original, or at least almost lives up to the original.

[nervmeister]

We already a have an improved American remake of Godzilla. It's called Cloverfield! :tongue:

[BeastieRunner]

We're getting another 'Zilla, not Gojira right?

[Sighphi]

We already a have an improved American remake of Godzilla. It's called Cloverfield! :tongue:

No that was Blair Witch 3.

Cause seriously...... they actually could've had a huge hello kitty stomping around and it would have the same effect.

[Stressfactor]

No that was Blair Witch 3.

Cause seriously...... they actually could've had a huge hello kitty stomping around and it would have the same effect.True. "Cloverfield" was about how a monster stomping all over a city impacted the PEOPLE. Gojira was always about what happened when people dealt with a living force of nature -- a creature that was both a blessing and a curse... although in the first movie he was just a curse.

Seriously, if you have NOT seen the restored "Gojira" that was put out on DVD a couple of years ago go rent that sucker NOW. None of this Americanized bull crap. Watching a dubbed version isn't even an OPTION on the DVD -- you watch it in Japanese with subtitles or in Japanese without subtitles and that is IT. But it hits like a sledgehammer to the heart. Sure, there is some stuff about it that is corny by modern standards but....

When you have a scene of a mother clutching her two children to her, surrounded by fire and rubble and looking at the advancing monster knowing there is nowhere to run and nowhere to be safe and telling her crying children "Soon we will be with your father again" it's emotional.

When you have a scene in a hospital after Gojira's attack and you have people burned by the creature's nuclear breath and you see this doctor running a geiger counter over a little boy not more than three or four years old and sadly shaking his head...

The scientist who creates the "oxygen destroyer" burning all his notes and then making no bones about the fact that he intends to die with the monster in order to make sure that no one ever gets his formula because he considers it's destructive power too great for mankind... we're not grown up enough yet to use it right....

The original was probably THE anti-nuclear polemic of not only it's time but several decades after. Even today, it stands as a warning for ANY time we little apes figure out bigger and better ways of killing massive numbers of our fellows on this planet.

There's nothing WRONG with "Cloverfield" but compared to the message of the original "Gojira" it becomes little more than 'just another monster movie'.

[The Xenos]

Geez. Didn't they already semi-retire Godzilla in Japan with Final Wars? That and the original I think are the only two I've seen fully. The US one doesn't even count. That's its own unrelated movie that stole the name as far as I care. It wasn't even that great either. There's no need to make another Godzilla film. Get your own damn monster if you need to.

For those who want an AWESOME (and funny) overview of the ENTIRE Godzilla (Gojira) film series check out YouTube's Cinemassacre's eight part Godzillathon. Starts here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Avc4AS3AvcA

Beware, though, some NSFW language used.
Ha. Very nice. I've checked out their site but missed these somehow.

[StoneGold]

True. "Cloverfield" was about how a monster stomping all over a city impacted the PEOPLE. Gojira was always about what happened when people dealt with a living force of nature -- a creature that was both a blessing and a curse... although in the first movie he was just a curse.


That's crap. It's about a giant monster stompin' stuff.



Does anyone watch Godzilla movies for the people?

[Sighphi]

That's crap. It's about a giant monster stompin' stuff.



Does anyone watch Godzilla movies for the people?

Dude, there are two aspects for a Gojira flick, the human and the monster aspects. There is a reason for both and are both are explored. In Cloverfield there is no monster aspect, it's literally a Macguffin screaming "THIS IS WHY PEOPLE ARE RUNNING." There is nothing behind it.

I mean.... seriously, explain to me CLoverfield. Why is any of that happening? What's the reason for the monster attack? Where did the monster come from? What is the monster?

[Eric Henson]

Dude, there are two aspects for a Gojira flick, the human and the monster aspects. There is a reason for both and are both are explored. In Cloverfield there is no monster aspect, it's literally a Macguffin screaming "THIS IS WHY PEOPLE ARE RUNNING." There is nothing behind it.

I mean.... seriously, explain to me CLoverfield. Why is any of that happening? What's the reason for the monster attack? Where did the monster come from? What is the monster?

According to the creators the monster is on a rampage for similar reasons (though not fully fleshed-out in the film). About the "splash" at the end; an object is seen coming in from the upper right, very small, but splashing down into the water. It impacts just to the left of the yacht in that scene. The date is prior to the monster's attack on the city. As part of the viral marketing campaign, it is explained that the splash is made by a satellite crashing into the ocean. The satellite was owned by the Tagruato corporation, which was been harvesting one of the ingredients of its patented "Slusho!" beverage from the ocean floor, which possibly drew the attention of the dormant creature. Abrams states that the creature has been suspended beneath the ocean for 1000s of years.

I suppose they were subtley trying to make it about tampering with nature and awakening destruction. Although the LSA (Cloverfield monster) was noted as being an infant rampaging out of fear. Maybe there was supposed to be a lesson there too. Who knows? Maybe there is no lesson at all and the makers are just making it up as they go along. Thats probably the most likely of it all!

[kalorama]

That's crap. It's about a giant monster stompin' stuff.



Does anyone watch Godzilla movies for the people?

Sure.

To watch 'em get stomped.

[Sighphi]

According to the creators the monster is on a rampage for similar reasons (though not fully fleshed-out in the film). About the "splash" at the end; an object is seen coming in from the upper right, very small, but splashing down into the water. It impacts just to the left of the yacht in that scene. The date is prior to the monster's attack on the city. As part of the viral marketing campaign, it is explained that the splash is made by a satellite crashing into the ocean. The satellite was owned by the Tagruato corporation, which was been harvesting one of the ingredients of its patented "Slusho!" beverage from the ocean floor, which possibly drew the attention of the dormant creature. Abrams states that the creature has been suspended beneath the ocean for 1000s of years.

So the satellite that fell at the end of the movie is from a company that is taking stuff from the ocean and that pissed some monster off?

..... I'm sorry but............................................... ......................why would we need to know about the satellite falling? That makes no sense at all. I mean, it clearly shows some stupid run-around from a viral campaign but it really still doesnt explain fully whats the point of the whole thing.

I suppose they were subtley trying to make it about tampering with nature and awakening destruction. Although the LSA (Cloverfield monster) was noted as being an infant rampaging out of fear. Maybe there was supposed to be a lesson there too. Who knows? Maybe there is no lesson at all and the makers are just making it up as they go along. Thats probably the most likely of it all!

All of this coming from outside the film. Awesome.
Extra material is supposed to be EXTRA material not essential material.

[kalorama]

I have to say, 10 minutes into Cloverfield, I was begging for the monster to show up and start killing people.

[Pól Rua]

That's crap. It's about a giant monster stompin' stuff.
Does anyone watch Godzilla movies for the people?

And this is why Hollywood doesn't 'get' Godzilla.
The best Godzilla films are like the best zombie movies. The monsters themselves are immaterial.
Zombie movies are about how different people deal with being in a confined space in a stressful situation with a bunch of other desperate people, and Kaiju films are about how people deal with something too monstrous and massive to be fully grasped, much less reasoned with or fought.

[Stressfactor]

And this is why Hollywood doesn't 'get' Godzilla.
The best Godzilla films are like the best zombie movies. The monsters themselves are immaterial.
Zombie movies are about how different people deal with being in a confined space in a stressful situation with a bunch of other desperate people, and Kaiju films are about how people deal with something too monstrous and massive to be fully grasped, much less reasoned with or fought.Exactly. In.... I think it was "Godzilla 1984" you had that guy -- the one who had been a Japanese soldier in WW II who was "saved" during the war by a pre-mutation Godzilla and he thinks it gives him some kind of connection to the creature -- a link, a bond... And in the end Godzilla and the old man look at each other.... and Godzilla flash fries him.

It's a reminder -- just as Roy Ludwig of Seigfried and Roy fame learned sadly -- you work with a wild animal and no matter HOW domesticated you think it is it will remain a wild animal with wild instincts. In the best of the movies Godzilla is just that -- a wild animal, untamed and untamable.

[RolandJP]

I thought Godzilla 2000 was classic.

Fav quote

"Why does he do it"

"Because there is a little Godzilla in all of us."

[Sighphi]

And this is why Hollywood doesn't 'get' Godzilla.
The best Godzilla films are like the best zombie movies. The monsters themselves are immaterial.
Zombie movies are about how different people deal with being in a confined space in a stressful situation with a bunch of other desperate people, and Kaiju films are about how people deal with something too monstrous and massive to be fully grasped, much less reasoned with or fought.

No, no, no, no, this is straight line American thinking.
There is ALWAYS a purpose for the monters in kaiju films, there are NEVER stomping around for no reason.

Kaiju films are NOT American horror movies about X alien appearing killing people like Predator and Alien. Those are survival horror films, Kaiju films are NOT survival horror films they are their own genre called.... KAIJU!

Folks gotta understand that other countries have different types of EVERYTHING and some time you cant find an equivalent in other countries.

[darkwolf]

I hope this time Godzilla isn't an assexual, giant T-Rex. And please do not put godzukie in this.

[Gabe99]

From Heat Vision:
Godzilla stomping back to theaters via Legendary (http://www.heatvisionblog.com/2010/03/godzilla-stomping-back-to-theaters-legendary-toho.html)


Well, well, well ... look who's getting back in fighting shape.

Everyone's favorite gigantic, havoc-wreaking lizard, Godzilla, is on his way back to the big screen via Legendary Pictures, which has acquired the rights to develop and produce a new feature based on the iconic Toho Co. character. Warner Bros. will co-produce, co-finance and distribute through its deal with Legendary, and Toho will roll out the film in Japan.

Dan Lin, Roy Lee and Brian Rogers are also producing; Yoshimitsu Banno, Kenji Okuhira and Doug Davison will be executive producers on the project.

The last major Godzilla outing, an American, New York-set version from Roland Emmerich and Dean Devlin, grossed $376 million worldwide in 1998 despite fielding equally major criticism. Toho quickly produced "Godzilla 2000," in which the big beast took on an evil UFO, the following year.

But the Godzilla franchise juggernaut has survived decades of permutations (he first appeared in 1954), dozens of films, books, video games and merchandising tie-ins and seems perpetually ready to rear up again for new audiences.

The new film is shooting for a 2012 release.

"Godzilla is one of the world's most powerful pop culture icons, and we at Legendary are thrilled to be able to create a modern epic based on this long-loved Toho franchise," said Thomas Tull, chairman and CEO of Legendary. "Our plans are to produce the Godzilla that we, as fans, would want to see. We intend to do justice to those essential elements that have allowed this character to remain as pop culturally relevant for as long as it has."

Added Jeff Robinov, president of Warner Bros. Pictures Group, "Godzilla is emblematic of the kind of branded, event films for which Warner Bros. and our partners at Legendary are best known."

The two companies have partnered on such global properties as "Batman Begins," "The Dark Knight," "Superman Returns" and "The Hangover," which have grossed more than $2 billion worldwide. Together, they have a remake of "Clash of the Titans" stomping into theaters Friday.


From Variety:
'Godzilla' stomps back to screen - Legendary Pictures gets rights to iconic monster (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118017027.html?categoryid=13&cs=1)


"Godzilla" is coming back -- this time, with Legendary Pictures taking the lead, co-producing and co-financing with Warner Bros. for release in 2012.

Legendary announced Monday it had obtained rights to the iconic monster character from Japan's Toho Co., which has overseen more than 25 "Godzilla" films. Toho will release the pic in Japan.

Legendary said it's planning to announce a director shortly.

In addition to Legendary, producers on the new film will be Dan Lin, Roy Lee and Brian Rogers. Yoshimitsu Banno, Kenji Okuhira and Doug Davison will exec produce.

"Godzilla is one of the world's most powerful pop culture icons, and we at Legendary are thrilled to be able to create a modern epic based on this long-loved Toho franchise," said Thomas Tull, Chairman and CEO of Legendary. "Our plans are to produce the Godzilla that we, as fans, would want to see. We intend to do justice to those essential elements that have allowed this character to remain as pop-culturally relevant for as long as it has."

Legendary noted the film will fall under its co-production and co-financing deal with Warner Bros. Legendary's productions with Warners have included "The Dark Knight," "300" and "The Hangover."

Speculation about a new "Godzilla" has been active since last summer. The Bloody Disgusting web site reported in August that the project was in development.

From Deadline:
Do We Really Need Another Godzilla Movie? (http://www.deadline.com/2010/03/do-we-really-need-another-godzilla-movie/)

Legendary Pictures and Warner Bros finally closed a deal with Toho to do another Godzilla. This has been going on for a year or so. Surely there will be 3D like in the Legendary/Warners Clash of the Titans. But can they breathe fire into an over-sized lizard that seemed out of gas in a 1998 Roland Emmerich-directed TriStar version considered a pricey disappointment? Anybody got ideas on how to make this reptile relevant?

[The Joker]

Exactly. In.... I think it was "Godzilla 1984" you had that guy -- the one who had been a Japanese soldier in WW II who was "saved" during the war by a pre-mutation Godzilla and he thinks it gives him some kind of connection to the creature -- a link, a bond... And in the end Godzilla and the old man look at each other.... and Godzilla flash fries him.

Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah. :wink:

Definately one of the better sequels to have come out of the Heisei Godzilla era. :cool:

It's a reminder -- just as Roy Ludwig of Seigfried and Roy fame learned sadly -- you work with a wild animal and no matter HOW domesticated you think it is it will remain a wild animal with wild instincts. In the best of the movies Godzilla is just that -- a wild animal, untamed and untamable.

Yeah, Godzilla works as a literal force of nature. A living, fire-breathing embodiment of the A-Bomb. Not as a monster-on-the-loose which was the case in the hyped up 1998 endeavor.

[Vakanai]

[morgan-freeman]I wish I could tell you that I was hopeful Hollywood will make it a guy in a suit instead of CGI, that the suit would be in cool fights. I wish I could tell you that.
But Hollywood is no fairytale world.[/morgan-freeman]

[thwhtGuardian]

[morgan-freeman]I wish I could tell you that I was hopeful Hollywood will make it a guy in a suit instead of CGI, that the suit would be in cool fights. I wish I could tell you that.
But Hollywood is no fairytale world.[/morgan-freeman]
This is the greatest quote I've ever seen.

I think the godzilla milenemium series proves you can still make a great movie with a guy in a suite.
You can't tell me that this doesn't look awesome
http://1br.biz/wallpapers/godzilla-2000-2013.jpg

[DKR]

This is the greatest quote I've ever seen.

I think the godzilla milenemium series proves you can still make a great movie with a guy in a suite.
You can't tell me that this doesn't look awesome
http://1br.biz/wallpapers/godzilla-2000-2013.jpg

To be honest, that look scared me the first time I saw it when I was 9.

[thwhtGuardian]

Same here, I was in the 8th grade and I thought it was awesome. I love the original Godzilla movies but I think the millennium ones have the best looking Godzilla.
As an aside, I just saw Godzilla vs. King Ghidora on crackle and was amazed to see that a bunch of the other Godzilla movies are there as well.

[The Big G]

Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah. :wink:

You beat me too it :cool:

Definately one of the better sequels to have come out of the Heisei Godzilla era. :cool:

I personally thought the Hesei series pwned face. I still tear up near the end of Godzilla vs Destroyah. IMO Spacegodzilla was the weakest Heisei movie.

[thwhtGuardian]

Exactly. In.... I think it was "Godzilla 1984" you had that guy -- the one who had been a Japanese soldier in WW II who was "saved" during the war by a pre-mutation Godzilla and he thinks it gives him some kind of connection to the creature -- a link, a bond... And in the end Godzilla and the old man look at each other.... and Godzilla flash fries him.

It's a reminder -- just as Roy Ludwig of Seigfried and Roy fame learned sadly -- you work with a wild animal and no matter HOW domesticated you think it is it will remain a wild animal with wild instincts. In the best of the movies Godzilla is just that -- a wild animal, untamed and untamable.

Actually I don't think that's the case at all, I just finished watching Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah, the movie you reference, and the guy doesn't seem to believe he's going to be spared by Godzilla at all, just the opposite he seems to be resigned to die at Godzilla's hands. In the phone conversation he has just before he gets fried he talks about how all the wealth he's accumulated since WWII is due to Godzilla, and then he laughs and says that it's ironic then that Godzilla is the one to destroy it all. He seems well aware that you can't tame nature, which is why he allows himself to die. He gives into the realization that nature cannot be defeated and in the face of that he gives up the will to live.

[McFarlane's Green Hulk]

From Heat Vision:
Godzilla stomping back to theaters via Legendary (http://www.heatvisionblog.com/2010/03/godzilla-stomping-back-to-theaters-legendary-toho.html)

From Variety:
'Godzilla' stomps back to screen - Legendary Pictures gets rights to iconic monster (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118017027.html?categoryid=13&cs=1)

From Deadline:
Do We Really Need Another Godzilla Movie? (http://www.deadline.com/2010/03/do-we-really-need-another-godzilla-movie/)

Hmmm...does this add fuel to the fire of a possible remake to "King Kong vs. Godzilla", or smother it?

[McFarlane's Green Hulk]

Same here, I was in the 8th grade and I thought it was awesome. I love the original Godzilla movies but I think the millennium ones have the best looking Godzilla.
As an aside, I just saw Godzilla vs. King Ghidora on crackle and was amazed to see that a bunch of the other Godzilla movies are there as well.

I've always thought the Heisei look was the best.
But as far as the Millennium suits go, I was blown away by the suit in Godzilla, Mothra and King Ghidorah: Giant Monsters All Out Attack -- that's one bitchin' and evil lookin' Godzilla!

[DKR]

Hmmm...does this add fuel to the fire of a possible remake to "King Kong vs. Godzilla", or smother it?

Well if it's the King Kong from the 2005 film, it's not much of a fight. One step and Godzilla wins.:tongue:

[McFarlane's Green Hulk]

Well if it's the King Kong from the 2005 film, it's not much of a fight. One step and Godzilla wins.:tongue:

Heh. True! :biggrin:
Well, if they do a "modern take" on the Toho version, just have an accurate looking gorilla suit and don't have him get stronger with electricity...I love that movie to death, but oy, it's hard to look at sometimes...

[thwhtGuardian]

Yeah, King Kong v. Godzilla always made me scratch my head.
As evidenced by this graph, Kong(object D) is much smaller than Godzilla.
http://reactorfire.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/small_movie-monster-size-comparison.jpg

[marshal99]

Yeah, King Kong v. Godzilla always made me scratch my head.
As evidenced by this graph, Kong(object D) is much smaller than Godzilla.
http://reactorfire.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/small_movie-monster-size-comparison.jpg

human-???-t-rex-king kong-???-???-???-marshmellow man-tripods from war of the worlds ?-godzilla-cloverfield monster

Don't think Godzilla is that big.

[thwhtGuardian]

I don' know, the graph isn't clear on whether it's feet or meters. Through out the years he's ranged from anywhere between 150 ft to 328 ft or from 50 meters to just over 100 meters. So if the previous graph is in ft than 160 ft would be acceptable. Though that makes kong a little off as according to the graph he'd be less than 20 feet...and he's usually portrayed to be between 24 and 40 feet depending on the movie.
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091125030952/godzilla/images/thumb/7/71/Godzilla_sizes2.jpg/600px-Godzilla_sizes2.jpg

[DKR]

Yeah, King Kong v. Godzilla always made me scratch my head.
As evidenced by this graph, Kong(object D) is much smaller than Godzilla.
http://reactorfire.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/small_movie-monster-size-comparison.jpg

This chart makes me want Godzilla vs. Cloverfield.

[DeadXMan]

the Japanese ignored contiguity and made King Kong bigger and gave him electric powers.

[DKR]

the Japanese ignored contiguity and made King Kong bigger and gave him electric powers.

I haven't watched it in so long, but I don't think I remember electric powers.

[thwhtGuardian]

the Japanese ignored contiguity and made King Kong bigger and gave him electric powers.

That bit was obvious, I was talking about if they were to a legitimate match up with the real Kong...which would be lopsided and end much like Godvzilla vs. Bambi.

[marshal99]

Electricity ? Wasn't that more akin to mecha kong ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrUFlFD4Lvo&feature=related

[Gabe99]

From Twitter: (http://twitter.com/Electric44/status/11366472852)
Now I have to hear all over again how our version sucked. Arrg.

[The Joker]

Electricity ? Wasn't that more akin to mecha kong ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrUFlFD4Lvo&feature=related

Nah, Toho Kong was able to use electricity in his fight with Godzilla first. Which gave him a nice boost and put Godzilla on the defensive instead.

To their credit, Toho made no bones about wanting to make their Kong different and distinct from the RKO Kong that everyone was familiar with. Not only did the Toho Kong was able to actually be charged up by electricity, but he was also much larger, and was worshiped by islanders on Faroe Island, rather than Skull Island.

[worstblogever]

That's crap. It's about a giant monster stompin' stuff.

Does anyone watch Godzilla movies for the people?

Hank Azaria is pretty charming, after all.

Yeah, King Kong v. Godzilla always made me scratch my head.
As evidenced by this graph, Kong(object D) is much smaller than Godzilla.
http://reactorfire.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/small_movie-monster-size-comparison.jpg

human-???-t-rex-king kong-???-???-???-marshmellow man-tripods from war of the worlds ?-godzilla-cloverfield monster

Don't think Godzilla is that big.

I think "E" might be the Rancor from Star Wars. Not sure, though. "F" might be Optomus Prime. "G" is definitely the 50 ft. Woman from "Attack of The 50 ft. Woman".

This chart makes me want Godzilla vs. Cloverfield.

Screw that! I wanna see if the Martians would be able to roast the Stay-Puft Man or if he'd pwn their Tripod-Ridin' ***es.

Godzilla would probably snap Cloverfield's spindly limbs like they were matchsticks.

[RockinRobin182]

I have such high hopes for this. I am soooooooooooo excited. I LOVELOVELOVE Godzilla, especially the Showa era. They said they're making this for the fans, and with a good budget? This really does have the potential to be fantastic.

Godzilla isn't just another monster, he's a force of nature. The focus needs to be on him as much as the human characters, unlike a zombie movie. Godzilla isn't immaterial. He's God-freaking-zilla.

[thwhtGuardian]

Hank Azaria is pretty charming, after all.





I think "E" might be the Rancor from Star Wars. Not sure, though. "F" might be Optomus Prime. "G" is definitely the 50 ft. Woman from "Attack of The 50 ft. Woman".



Screw that! I wanna see if the Martians would be able to roast the Stay-Puft Man or if he'd pwn their Tripod-Ridin' ***es.

Godzilla would probably snap Cloverfield's spindly limbs like they were matchsticks.

And I think A was meant to be a hobbit.

[Cleric of Hell's Brigade]

And I think A was meant to be a hobbit.

Most likely.

[Gabe99]

From Thompson on Hollywood:
Godzilla Returns, and Legendary’s Got Him (http://blogs.indiewire.com/thompsononhollywood/2010/03/30/godzilla_returns/)

The giant Japanese green monster Godzilla is back. So like The Hulk, Robin Hood, Sherlock Holmes, The Addams Family, Alice in Wonderland, Clash of the Titans and so many other familiar properties, Hollywood is going back to the well with a franchise and an easy-sell name. Sigh.

Last time, in 1998, Sony oversold Godzilla as a hulking surefire blockbuster, plastered on gigantor-sized billboards everywhere. But something went terribly wrong with Sony’s Roland Emmerich Godzilla. Part of it was that Steven Spielberg’s Jurassic Park dinosaurs were so much better. Also, Emmerich’s sense of scale was off: the thing was too big to be comprehended inside the frame. It wasn’t scaleable, somehow. Now, in an ever-expanding CG universe, anything is possible.

Another reason for Legendary and Warner Bros. to add this project to their franchise arsenal: while the 1998 movie, which cost $130 million, was blasted by critics and grossed $136,314,294 domestically, that figure repped just 36 % of its worldwide $242,700,000 total (per Box Office Mojo). That’s not so bad. They acquired the rights from Toho studios to make another Hollywood Godzilla movie. Six movies have been made since the 1998 Emmerich film in Japan, and Toho retains the rights for Japanese distribution. Dan Lin (Sherlock Holmes), Roy Lee and 3-D expert Brian Rogers will produce; he was working with producer Kenji Okuhira and writer Yoshimitsu Banno on a 3-D IMAX Godzilla; they have been folded into this project as exec producers, along with Doug Davison.

Also, Legendary genre maven Thomas Tull (who has partnered with Warners on Superman, The Watchmen and the Chris Nolan Batman films) pledges to return to the basics of the original series. “Godzilla is one of the world’s most powerful pop culture icons,” Tull told Variety, “and we at Legendary are thrilled to be able to create a modern epic based on this long-loved Toho franchise.” The reboot is due in 2012.

Godzilla movies fall into three eras over 29 films: Showa, Heisei, and Millennium. The first 1954 Godzilla was released in Japan and sold 9,610,000 tickets. Initially criticized for taking advantage of Japan’s nuclear devastation, it was released in America for the first time on DVD in 2006 by Classic Media.

As Patrick Tatopoulos completely redesigned the monster for the 1998 film, which was modeled on a disaster film formula, Tull seems to be heading toward a more conventional Godzilla (will he have atomic breath?), which could mean that the towering beast will battle other giant monsters. Oh joy.

When I tweeted my skepticism today, Drew McWeeny (@DrewAtHitfix) remonstrated with me:

@akstanwyck Emmerich’s film was exactly what you’re talking about. Corporate. Crass. I’ll agree with that.

But Tull’s a huge fanboy, and Godzilla is something he’s wanted to do his whole life. This one’s all about passion.

I think it’s worth letting them take their shot and seeing what they come up with. After all… it’s not my money.

Meanwhile McWeeny comments on the IESB rumor that Independence Day sequels are on their way, with Will Smith attached. Even the world’s biggest movie star must stoop to sequels. The question, as McWeeny points out, is whether the original ID4 duo, Emmerich and producer Dean Devlin, who have gone their separate ways, would come back together for this.

[McFarlane's Green Hulk]

From Thompson on Hollywood:
Godzilla Returns, and Legendary’s Got Him (http://blogs.indiewire.com/thompsononhollywood/2010/03/30/godzilla_returns/)

For a second, I misread that part with Will Smith in it...WHEW! Don't get me wrong, he's a great actor, but he doesn't fit into a Godzilla movie -- Japan or USA-made.

Also wondering on why there's doubt on the atomic breath if they're moving towards the "more conventional Godzilla". That's like making a Spider-Man movie without webbing...

[jaxstraww]

Will Nick Fury make an appearance? Hoping their will be an Avengers sighting............

Seriously, as long as Ben Afflek gets the lead the movie will be tits.

[Gabe99]

From Obsessed With Film:
The Time Is Right For A New GODZILLA! (http://www.obsessedwithfilm.com/godzilla/the-time-is-right-for-a-new-godzilla.php)


1. Give Godzilla a formidable foe.

2. Increase the destruction.

3. Give Godzilla some personality.

4. Design Godzilla to look more like the Japanese version.

5. Make the film about Godzilla.

6. Make Godzilla invincible.

UPDATE: Godzilla producer Roy Lee (who also produced the excellent Quarantine and the upsetting The Strangers) contacted me and assured me that most of the items on my wish list are part of the current plan. Understandably, he didn’t want to go into details at this stage, but it sounds like they have a good grasp of this property. Thanks, Roy! It’s nice to know there are still cool people in Hollywood!

[Andreas Tanis]

In response to earlier comments, typically I don't care about the humans in Godzilla films, but Hank Azaria & Jean Reno are just awesome.

Secondly, I'm highly anticipating another American Godzilla film, especially if it's more along the lines of the Japanese Godzilla films, which means more destruction, and a good enough foe for Godzilla. The thing is, I'll be happy to have a CGI Godzilla again, as I prefer CGI to a man in a suit. I also hope they make Godzilla's design as badass as possible. I want him to have some resemblance to past designs, but also have a new flavor thrown in, something that'll spark even more interest.

[Pro]

Japanese Godzilla is fat and waddles.

[The Big G]

Japanese Godzilla is fat and waddles.

ANd he can kick your ass from her to Japan and back

[Vakanai]

From Obsessed With Film:
The Time Is Right For A New GODZILLA! (http://www.obsessedwithfilm.com/godzilla/the-time-is-right-for-a-new-godzilla.php)

Sad shame they didn't include a #7.
7. Don't make him a digital videogame character...

[Kid Kamikaze10]

Yeah, King Kong v. Godzilla always made me scratch my head.
As evidenced by this graph, Kong(object D) is much smaller than Godzilla.
http://reactorfire.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/small_movie-monster-size-comparison.jpg

For those who wanted to know

A) Chucky
B) Wicked Witch of the West
C) Tyrannosaurus Rex
D) King Kong
E) Rancor
F) Megatron
G) 50ft Woman
H) Mr. Stay Puff
I) War of the Worlds Tripod
J) Godzilla of course...
K) Cloverfield Monster

[McFarlane's Green Hulk]

In response to earlier comments, typically I don't care about the humans in Godzilla films, but Hank Azaria & Jean Reno are just awesome.

Secondly, I'm highly anticipating another American Godzilla film, especially if it's more along the lines of the Japanese Godzilla films, which means more destruction, and a good enough foe for Godzilla. The thing is, I'll be happy to have a CGI Godzilla again, as I prefer CGI to a man in a suit. I also hope they make Godzilla's design as badass as possible. I want him to have some resemblance to past designs, but also have a new flavor thrown in, something that'll spark even more interest.

I'll be happy with either, but a CGI would seem more plausible.
As long as they stick with a familiar design, I'll be happy.

[The Joker]

ANd he can kick your ass from her to Japan and back

And after beating the snot out of someone or something, he can decide to add insult to injury by doing the victory dance all over that ass too. :smile:

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/2523/godzilladancetl0.gif

[Gabe99]

From Variety:
Hollywood heads back to the '80s - Decade's a dynamo for contemporary remakes (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118017872.html?categoryid=13&cs=1)
Studios have gone back to the future as they develop their upcoming slates, eyeing a slew of hits from the 1980s to remake, reboot or reimagine. The irony is that "Back to the Future" isn't one of them.

Everything else is essentially getting the "Clash of the Titans" treatment: retooled with flashier f/x and a new cast of recognizable names to reintroduce the material to a new generation of moviegoers.



Six actors have played James Bond on the bigscreen over the years; four have similarly donned Batman's cape and cowl. Russell Crowe is the latest Robin Hood, and Robert Downey Jr. is now suiting up as both Iron Man and Sherlock Holmes.

These are iconic characters," says one Warner Bros.-based producer behind a number of redos. "It almost doesn't matter who plays them. The actor isn't the star; the characters are much bigger than they will ever be."

It's why Legendary Pictures (which produced "Clash") is looking to reintroduce Godzilla on the bigscreen, not as a remake of Sony's 1998 pic but as an update of the Japanese pics that first introduced the rampaging lizard in the 1950s.



Still, with "Clash of the Titans" conquering the box office, Legendary will now focus on unleashing "Godzilla" on a new crop of moviegoers. Producers at the shingle are looking to fix what didn't work in Roland Emmerich's pricey version, including the rampaging lizard's overall look. In the new "Clash," they similarly made tweaks, tossing Bubo the mechanical owl from the original to the side and making the Kraken more menacing.

[Andreas Tanis]

It'll be awesome getting a more modern Godzilla film, imo. I'm heavily anticipating it. I wonder who the cast will consist of.

[The One and Only]

And now a first look at Legendary's take on GODZILLA. (http://www.joblo.com/arrow/index.php?id=23289):eek:
http://www.filmshaft.com/images/2010/07/godzillanew.jpg
Thoughts ?

[The Zapper]

Well, that pic looks promising to me. Much better than the Zilla design.

[Tomzilla]

Multiple movie news websites are saying that actually isn't the Legendary Godzilla design (Bloody Disgusting being one of them). We'll just have to wait for confirmation. If this isn't the design, I'd like an explanation.

...I hope it isn't. I don't like it. But we need something far more majestic, terrifying, and awe-inspiring.

[hugh45]

Multiple movie news websites are saying that actually isn't the Legendary Godzilla design (Bloody Disgusting being one of them). We'll just have to wait for confirmation. If this isn't the design, I'd like an explanation.

...I hope it isn't. I don't like it. But we need something far more majestic, terrifying, and awe-inspiring.

Yeah Cloverfield was Godzilla like. They need to return him to his roots.

[DKR]

And now a first look at Legendary's take on GODZILLA. (http://www.joblo.com/arrow/index.php?id=23289):eek:
http://www.filmshaft.com/images/2010/07/godzillanew.jpg
Thoughts ?

Oh F Yeah!:cool:

[marshal99]

Reminds me of Godzilla 2000 poster.

http://www.godzillathrone.com/godzilla2000pos.jpg

[thwhtGuardian]

It's good, but it really looks like fanart to me, or an early concept design they're teasing the fans with.

[The One and Only]

And the director of Legendary's upcoming take on the King of the Monsters is...Gareth Edwards (http://www.joblo.com/arrow/index.php?id=25865), fresh off last year's critcally acclaimed indie flick, Monsters.

[thwhtGuardian]

Could be a surprise hit, I mean who would have predicted that Sam Rami would have made a good Spiderman movie?

[Pól Rua]

I hope the producers have learned from the mistakes of the 1998 film.
I'd say they haven't, based on the fact that they're making another Godzilla film.

[Now I have to hear all over again how our version sucked. Arrg.
Here's an idea, stop making intellectually and creatively bankrupt shit. Maybe then people will stop complaining.

[The Zapper]

Making a Godzilla film is tricky. If you change to much people will hate it, and if you don't change enough most people will think it's to cheesy (not me though. The more cheese the better in my opinion). As long as it looks and sounds like the real Godzilla they'll be off to a good start.

[Pól Rua]

Making a Godzilla film is tricky.
And yet, Toho have managed it dozens of times, with a wide range of emotional tones and approaches.
Go figure, eh?

[Sighphi]

And the director of Legendary's upcoming take on the King of the Monsters is...Gareth Edwards (http://www.joblo.com/arrow/index.php?id=25865), fresh off last year's critcally acclaimed indie flick, Monsters.

Monsters was a horrible film.
I have no hope for this flick at all.

[The Zapper]

And yet, Toho have managed it dozens of times, with a wide range of emotional tones and approaches.
Go figure, eh?

I meant making a Godzilla movie for Americans. I love the Toho movies and own a lot of them. It's my fault for not being clear.
Go figure, eh?

[DeadXMan]

I meant making a Godzilla movie for Americans. I love the Toho movies and own a lot of them. It's my fault for not being clear.
Go figure, eh?


There was. It's called Cloverfeild. It kicked ass.

[The Zapper]

There was. It's called Cloverfeild. It kicked ass.

I wasn't a fan personally.

[DeadXMan]

I wasn't a fan personally.

Compaired to the Amrican Godzilla done done in the 90's. It's a God sent.

[JCAll]

Compaired to the Amrican Godzilla done done in the 90's. It's a God sent.

And least Godzilla had halfway likable characters and an actual monster. And the cartoon. And Jean Reno. Cloverfield was just a bunch of unlikable jerkasses being followed around by shakey cam, with no real structure or point. How many seconds of footage of the actual monster did they actually have? 3-4? Completely pointless.

[Sighphi]

And least Godzilla had halfway likable characters and an actual monster. And the cartoon. And Jean Reno. Cloverfield was just a bunch of unlikable jerkasses being followed around by shakey cam, with no real structure or point. How many seconds of footage of the actual monster did they actually have? 3-4? Completely pointless.

Yeah, Cloverfield was Godzilla without a plot.
Going up 50 blocks in Manhattan to get a girl that you just dumped cause you are going to Japan and that she just brought another dude for your going away party has to be one of the dumbest reasons to go on a journey ever created for a film.

And as a person that lives in NYC, i know it's stupid, these dudes were NOT written as people that lived in NYC. Well.... maybe if they were mega rich and they were just driven around all the time.

[The Zapper]

Compaired to the Amrican Godzilla done done in the 90's. It's a God sent.

Well, if they wouldn't have called it Godzilla I wouldn't really have a problem with the film. If I was forced to watch American Godzilla or Cloverfield again, I think I'd go with American Godzilla.

[RockinRobin182]

So here's what they need to make this film good.

1- Interesting human characters- In my opinion, some of the characters from the Showa Era were almost as fun to watch as the monsters (namely, the cast of Godzilla vs. Monster Zero). If we get a bunch of soldiers and government officials as the main human cast one more time...*shakes fist*.

2- A portrayal of Godzilla akin to Superman- Yup, you heard me. In my eyes, Godzilla is similar to Superman in that he is both a character and a symbol at the same time. Superman, for hope and all that jazz, and Godzilla for just power. At the same time Godzilla can not be some exterior threat, like Cloverfield...he is a character in and of himself and should be treated as such. I would love to see him go through a development in the movie like he did in Ghidorah, the Three-Headed Monster: big stompy jerk to reluctant savior.

3- Godzilla needs to be scary! I'm a horror movie buff and I enjoy being scared, and Gojira actually is a scary movie. Not jumpy, but heart-dropping- to-your-stomach-scary...like the scene where the mother tells her daughter (children) that they were going to see Daddy soon right before the house collapses in...scarier than any stock disaster movie to come out in recent years (save for maybe Titanic).

4- Amazing advertising. I want cryptic, viral advertising. Instead of the regular assortment of clips from the movie, what about a cold opening scene of a cruise liner enjoying a nice night on the open sea, only to start shaking and suddenly sinking. Screaming and panic ensues, there are flashes of bright light and...cut to black, the air date of the movie, and the classic footsteps, maybe the title in Japanese. Those would just be to start out, then eventually we would move forward to the standard trailers we all know and love.

5- Utilize the source material dammit! I would love to see a heavy Showa influence, while still making it frightening.

6- Ifukube's score. Perfection.

7- Solid monster. I would love for them to use this as a chance for Godzilla to become the "less of two evils" at the end, and as I said before, mark a change for him.

8- Well, everything else any movie needs to be good. Writing, directing, acting, etc.

[XPac]

So here's what they need to make this film good.

1- Interesting human characters- In my opinion, some of the characters from the Showa Era were almost as fun to watch as the monsters (namely, the cast of Godzilla vs. Monster Zero). If we get a bunch of soldiers and government officials as the main human cast one more time...*shakes fist*.

2- A portrayal of Godzilla akin to Superman- Yup, you heard me. In my eyes, Godzilla is similar to Superman in that he is both a character and a symbol at the same time. Superman, for hope and all that jazz, and Godzilla for just power. At the same time Godzilla can not be some exterior threat, like Cloverfield...he is a character in and of himself and should be treated as such. I would love to see him go through a development in the movie like he did in Ghidorah, the Three-Headed Monster: big stompy jerk to reluctant savior.

3- Godzilla needs to be scary! I'm a horror movie buff and I enjoy being scared, and Gojira actually is a scary movie. Not jumpy, but heart-dropping- to-your-stomach-scary...like the scene where the mother tells her daughter (children) that they were going to see Daddy soon right before the house collapses in...scarier than any stock disaster movie to come out in recent years (save for maybe Titanic).

4- Amazing advertising. I want cryptic, viral advertising. Instead of the regular assortment of clips from the movie, what about a cold opening scene of a cruise liner enjoying a nice night on the open sea, only to start shaking and suddenly sinking. Screaming and panic ensues, there are flashes of bright light and...cut to black, the air date of the movie, and the classic footsteps, maybe the title in Japanese. Those would just be to start out, then eventually we would move forward to the standard trailers we all know and love.

5- Utilize the source material dammit! I would love to see a heavy Showa influence, while still making it frightening.

6- Ifukube's score. Perfection.

7- Solid monster. I would love for them to use this as a chance for Godzilla to become the "less of two evils" at the end, and as I said before, mark a change for him.

8- Well, everything else any movie needs to be good. Writing, directing, acting, etc.

Maybe Godzilla is more comparable to Hulk than Superman in a lot of ways.

[The One and Only]

The man who broke the "comics to movie barrier" with BLADE, and with Chris Nolan made Bat-Flicks cool to see in the theaters, David Goyer (http://www.deadline.com/2011/07/legendary-hires-david-goyer-for-godzilla), has been brought on to write Legendary's G-Flick.:biggrin:

[SephirothDZX]

Rules to making a good Godzilla film

1- Godzilla is near invincible. He's akin to a force of nature. Standard military should not be able to take him down (Fault #1 of the 98 movie)

2- Interesting characters

3- Make Godzilla scary. Use the original Gojira and Godzilla 1985 as source material.

4- Don't make him fight another monster. Yes "Godzilla vs" is the staple of most Godzilla movies, but if you're telling a new Godzilla movie for a new generation please dont let anything else distract from the centerpiece for now. Save monster battles for sequels.

5- Camera angles are extremely important. Keep the shots low and always give the viewer the feeling that you are looking up at the monster.

6- Dont change up his look to much like the 98 american film did. His proper look hasnt changed much in 60 years for a reason.

[The Joker]

The man who broke the "comics to movie barrier" with BLADE, and with Chris Nolan made Bat-Flicks cool to see in the theaters, David Goyer (http://www.deadline.com/2011/07/legendary-hires-david-goyer-for-godzilla), has been brought on to write Legendary's G-Flick.:biggrin:

Could be a good thing for this project.

Interested in seeing where this goes. This new Godzilla film really needs to be done right.

[The One and Only]

Quote By SephirothDZX:
4-Don't makie him fight another monster.Yes, "Godzilla vs." is the staple of most Godzilla movies, but if you're telling a new Godzilla movie for a new generation, please don't let anything else distract from the centerpiece for now. Save monster battles for the sequels.

Seeing that not having the Big-G tackle any monsters in the oft-nit picked 1998 flick was one of the problems the fans had with it. And the fact that Legendary has access to the pantheon of daikaiju, I'm afraid you might be facing disappointment there sir. And the flick's producer Brian Reed has said some other of the monster stable will be included in the flick. Hopefully, some of the weaker ones like Anguirus, Rodan, and Varan, even Mothra will be in the film. And if the flick is a success ,and a sequel materializes, Godzilla's arch-foe, KING GHIDORAH, will show up.

[SephirothDZX]

Quote By SephirothDZX:


Seeing that not having the Big-G tackle any monsters in the oft-nit picked 1998 flick was one of the problems the fans had with it. And the fact that Legendary has access to the pantheon of daikaiju, I'm afraid you might be facing disappointment there sir. And the flick's producer Brian Reed has said some other of the monster stable will be included in the flick. Hopefully, some of the weaker ones like Anguirus, Rodan, and Varan, even Mothra will be in the film. And if the flick is a success ,and a sequel materializes, Godzilla's arch-foe, KING GHIDORAH, will show up.

Well for me personally having Godzilla not fight anyone wasnt a big complaint for me regarding the 98 movie. I just think for a reboot film they need to re-establish Big G first and not try to cram too much stuff into it at once like Green Lantern did. Plus if Godzilla is supposed to be the "bad guy" of this movie, its hard to make him a scary foe if the audience also roots for him to beat up someone else.

[Angilas-Man]

Quote By SephirothDZX:


Seeing that not having the Big-G tackle any monsters in the oft-nit picked 1998 flick was one of the problems the fans had with it. And the fact that Legendary has access to the pantheon of daikaiju, I'm afraid you might be facing disappointment there sir. And the flick's producer Brian Reed has said some other of the monster stable will be included in the flick. Hopefully, some of the weaker ones like Anguirus, Rodan, and Varan, even Mothra will be in the film. And if the flick is a success ,and a sequel materializes, Godzilla's arch-foe, KING GHIDORAH, will show up.


(nerdiest thing I'll say all day)

Mothra is one of the strongest and most intelligent monsters in the series and has regularly defeated Godzillla. Rodan and Godzilla fight to a draw for a good portion of Ghidorah, The Three Headed Monster's runtime and end their fight at a draw to team up against Ghidorah.

:wink:

[SephirothDZX]

(nerdiest thing I'll say all day)

Mothra is one of the strongest and most intelligent monsters in the series and has regularly defeated Godzillla. Rodan and Godzilla fight to a draw for a good portion of Ghidorah, The Three Headed Monster's runtime and end their fight at a draw to team up against Ghidorah.

:wink:

Pretty much this. It sounds like that guy wants some odd hybrid remake of Ghidorah The Three Headed Monster and Destroy All Monsters or something.

Personally, I'd go for a remake of Godzilla 1985. Highly underappreciated Godzilla flick.

[The Joker]

Well for me personally having Godzilla not fight anyone wasnt a big complaint for me regarding the 98 movie. I just think for a reboot film they need to re-establish Big G first and not try to cram too much stuff into it at once like Green Lantern did. Plus if Godzilla is supposed to be the "bad guy" of this movie, its hard to make him a scary foe if the audience also roots for him to beat up someone else.


I agree wholeheartedly with all of that.

Having Godzilla take on a monstrous adversary is classic and all, but I agree that this film really needs to focus on the character of Godzilla, and the force of nature aspect that was so prevalent in Gojira and which was sorely lacking in the 1998 effort. Interesting human characters that can further draw audiences into the story are welcomed as well, and if all of this can be balanced, I think one of the hooks about a potential sequel would be, of course, a monster battle in a metropolitan area. :cool:

[SephirothDZX]

I agree wholeheartedly with all of that.

Having Godzilla take on a monstrous adversary is classic and all, but I agree that this film really needs to focus on the character of Godzilla, and the force of nature aspect that was so prevalent in Gojira and which was sorely lacking in the 1998 effort. Interesting human characters that can further draw audiences into the story are welcomed as well, and if all of this can be balanced, I think one of the hooks about a potential sequel would be, of course, a monster battle in a metropolitan area. :cool:

Look at how the late 80's & 90's Godzilla films worked.

Godzilla 1985 was a reboot of the movies, established Godzilla as a dark force of nature and made him a feared adversary. Later sequels managed to keep that feel of Godzilla while still throwing adversaries at him, and it all worked.

[The Joker]

Look at how the late 80's & 90's Godzilla films worked.

Godzilla 1985 was a reboot of the movies, established Godzilla as a dark force of nature and made him a feared adversary. Later sequels managed to keep that feel of Godzilla while still throwing adversaries at him, and it all worked.
Never really cared for some of the sequels offered during the Heisei series, but Godzilla 1985 has always been aces with me.

The mood, the re-establishing Godzilla as a badass force of nature, bringing back Raymond Burr if just for really nostaligic purposes, even that little Godzilla meets Bambi short that was on the VHS ... good stuff.

[SephirothDZX]

Godzilla 1985 has always been aces with me

I like you, sir.

[shingi70]

Why does the American Godzilla movie gets so much hate?

[1505627]

Why does the American Godzilla movie gets so much hate?

it's a good movie, but didn't meet the expectations for a godzilla movie

[Nightstar1441]

Why does the American Godzilla movie gets so much hate?

I actually loved the way it started but by the end...it was Jurassic Park III

[Captain Smith]

Not to divert but a Godzilla that gets taken down by a couple of F-18s? Lame.

The US has 11 carriers full of them, besides thousand of F-16s and F-15s.

Zilla would last 5 seconds if the US Armed Forces were up to speed. The Apaches were so misused in the movie. Similarly, no good use of tanks.

Godzilla sneers at such. Zilla just died.

[shingi70]

Not to divert but a Godzilla that gets taken down by a couple of F-18s? Lame.

The US has 11 carriers full of them, besides thousand of F-16s and F-15s.

Zilla would last 5 seconds if the US Armed Forces were up to speed. The Apaches were so misused in the movie. Similarly, no good use of tanks.

Godzilla sneers at such. Zilla just died.

That was the point. They were going for the magical thing called Realism when they made zilla. He was supposed to be more like an animal than monster.

[1505627]

That was the point. They were going for the magical thing called Realism when they made zilla. He was supposed to be more like an animal than monster.

despite the fact that, ignoring the atomic breath, the japanese Godzilla is more likely to actually move under it's own power

[shingi70]

despite the fact that, ignoring the atomic breath, the japanese Godzilla is more likely to actually move under it's own power

Zilla Had Power Breath instead of Atomic Breath. I really Think Zilla Could have worked in his own right as a movie (not sure why people like to job him) and I wouldn't mind seeing another movie with the him. The animated series wasn't that bad..

[XPac]

Why does the American Godzilla movie gets so much hate?

I didn't think it was a bad monster movie at all.

It just wasn't a Godzilla movie, in the eyes of many. Right or wrong, people had the expectation that it was going to be like the japanesse version and cried foul when it was something else entirely.

[1505627]

Zilla Had Power Breath instead of Atomic Breath. I really Think Zilla Could have worked in his own right as a movie (not sure why people like to job him) and I wouldn't mind seeing another movie with the him. The animated series wasn't that bad..

oh i like Zilla too.

[AdamYJ]

Why does the American Godzilla movie gets so much hate?

Well, one of the unbreakable rules for Godzilla movies is this: "Godzilla cannot be defeated by military force." Instead, someone always has to come up with a more creative plan to deal with Godzilla. Usually some scientist or other. The thing is that Godzilla is a metaphor for the atomic bomb. If you can defeat Godzilla by bombing the crap out of him, then that's like saying that the solution to the atomic bomb is hitting it with more bombs.

Being able to defeat a monster with military force is more in line with American sci-fi monsters like the Tarantula or The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms than the uniquely Japanese Godzilla. That's because the US still had faith in its military might in the '50s (after all, it was likely how we'd beat the Russkies :tongue:).

[verslibre]

Why does the American Godzilla movie gets so much hate?

Short answer: because it sucks.

Not-so-short answer: because "Zilla" isn't Godzilla nor does "Zilla" look like Godzilla; because the script sucked; because Matthew Broderick's character made me want to kick the shit out of him; because Jurassic Park 2.5 occurred within the context of the film; and because "Zilla" lacked Godzilla's atomic breath and some of his other tricks. "Power breath"—is that what you like to call it? There's a better movie with fire-breathing reptiles called Reign Of Fire. The difference is that they're called dragons and they fly.

[JCAll]

Why does the American Godzilla movie gets so much hate?

Haters gonna hate.

[Captain Smith]

The French were the villians. What more to you want for suspense?

I supposed if they did Mothra, the Orkin Man would have just sprayed him at the end.

Yep, Tarantula, Them, The Thing were taken down by normal means but they had some suspense. A big iguana - feh.

[The One and Only]

Goyer leaves Man of Steel for the King of the Monsters. (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/joshw24/news/?a=41974)