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It's the final go round for Monk fans; and we're treated to a look at Mr. Monk's favorite childhood show: The Cooper Clan! We also deal with Mr. Monk's disappointment as like with so many of our childhood favorites; the kids don't grow up to be as sweet as they seemed on TV.
Holacik
08-08-2009, 06:44 AM
I didn't much like the episode.
The Scarlet Sapien
08-08-2009, 08:34 AM
I didn't much like the episode.
It was a little too silly. Not bad, though.
I'm waiting for Sharona to come back, and the guest shots by Meat Loaf and Victoria Madsen.
master of read
08-08-2009, 01:48 PM
i liked it. especially how monk did his "here's what happened" wrap up during his dream.
what are the chances of monk and nataile hooking up?
i liked it. especially how monk did his "here's what happened" wrap up during his dream.
what are the chances of monk and nataile hooking up?
I've been sort of hoping to see that in the finale. :biggrin:
Legato
08-08-2009, 02:54 PM
I've been sort of hoping to see that in the finale. :biggrin:
Same here. Any chances of Monk actually solving his wife's murder? That is the kind of closure I would love to see happen
Holacik
08-09-2009, 04:33 AM
Same here. Any chances of Monk actually solving his wife's murder? That is the kind of closure I would love to see happen
I thought I read that they would. I'm just not sure what kind of lead he's going to get.
I thought I read that they would. I'm just not sure what kind of lead he's going to get.
Dale The Whale?
JCAll
08-09-2009, 06:54 PM
what are the chances of monk and nataile hooking up?
Pretty good. The Captain was hinting that natalie has a thing for him last season. But he'll have to solve Trudy's murder first. So it'll probably be the last episode.
Anyway, I liked the episode. Page 73...awesome.
Looks like he's getting started.
johnnyhotsauce
08-15-2009, 01:49 PM
Mr. Eko doing laundry and washing dishes "the American Way" = priceless. :biggrin:
Vidocq
08-15-2009, 03:40 PM
That episode was great. Funny, the mystery made sense, the murdered wife angle was done perfectly, not hamfisted at all. I'm very excited to see what happens next.
Major Comma
08-15-2009, 08:08 PM
Is it possible Trudys murderer is somebody close to Monk who we wouldnt suspect?
Vidocq
08-15-2009, 10:10 PM
Apparently a guy known only as ''The Judge'' ordered the hit, Dale the Whale already figured out who The Judge is or at least that's what he claims.
I think that while it wasn't Dale who ordered the Hit, it was the Judge from his law suit against Trudy. Maybe Trudy found out something about him, something nasty. And being on the tough spot that she was, she decided to blackmail the Judge into dismissing the case. Who decided that killing her would be easier than having to deal with the paperwork and the risk of having someone knows his dirty secrets.
I'm not married to this theory though. Seems more Humphrey Bogart than Tony Shalhoub.
So is the season over yet? I have to tell my mom about this as she likes the show, but isn't really up on things like this. :I
So is the season over yet? I have to tell my mom about this as she likes the show, but isn't really up on things like this. :I
It's just getting started.
Apparently a guy known only as ''The Judge'' ordered the hit, Dale the Whale already figured out who The Judge is or at least that's what he claims.
I think that while it wasn't Dale who ordered the Hit, it was the Judge from his law suit against Trudy. Maybe Trudy found out something about him, something nasty. And being on the tough spot that she was, she decided to blackmail the Judge into dismissing the case. Who decided that killing her would be easier than having to deal with the paperwork and the risk of having someone knows his dirty secrets.
I'm not married to this theory though. Seems more Humphrey Bogart than Tony Shalhoub.
I don't buy this because it seems weird to use "The Judge" if it really is a judge and having Trudy blackmail someone would make her character "ugly".
Super Macho Man
08-16-2009, 08:56 PM
I missed most of last week's ep. The one before was really bizarre towards the end though.
Anybody else think that Monk is being portrayed as more of an outright asshole this season? I dunno, it feels like that charm is getting whittled out of him.
Legato
08-16-2009, 09:15 PM
I missed most of last week's ep. The one before was really bizarre towards the end though.
Anybody else think that Monk is being portrayed as more of an outright asshole this season? I dunno, it feels like that charm is getting whittled out of him.
They are hinting that the pressure of not finding out who killed his wife is getting to him. Alot more than the previous seasons
It's just getting started.
Oh! :eek:
Thanks! :smile:
Kirayoshi
08-17-2009, 03:57 AM
I don't buy this because it seems weird to use "The Judge" if it really is a judge and having Trudy blackmail someone would make her character "ugly".
Alternate theory; Monk discovered something about the judge and was acquiring the evidence he'd need to make an arrest. The judge then ordered the hit on Trudy, knowing that Trudy's death would destroy Monk's fragile psyche. It was hinted that he had selective amnesia regarding that period in his life(he had once discovered a lead to Trudy's murder, forgot the lead and then rediscovered it), and Trudy's loss did lead to Monk's breakdown, making him unable to control his OCD and various phobias.
Vidocq
08-17-2009, 05:10 AM
I don't buy this because it seems weird to use "The Judge" if it really is a judge and having Trudy blackmail someone would make her character "ugly". Yeah, I know. I would actually be rather disapointed if it turns out I'm right. It's too noir for Monk. But their are certain things such as the fact that she didn't trust the person she was going to meet plus the fact that Dale the Whale figured out who this Judge is that lead me to this theory.
Alternate theory; Monk discovered something about the judge and was acquiring the evidence he'd need to make an arrest. The judge then ordered the hit on Trudy, knowing that Trudy's death would destroy Monk's fragile psyche. It was hinted that he had selective amnesia regarding that period in his life(he had once discovered a lead to Trudy's murder, forgot the lead and then rediscovered it), and Trudy's loss did lead to Monk's breakdown, making him unable to control his OCD and various phobias.
That's a possibility. I like it when mysteries turn out to be a batman's gambit but why wouldn't he just kill Monk? Unless, he either figured that if Monk died, Trudy, a condecorated investigative reporter, wouldn't rest until finding out who did it or he thought that Monk was going to be in the car with Trudy and his breakdown was just a lucky shot.
When was it established that she didn't trust who she was going to meet?
In the episode where Monk is visiting his brother during some fair Ambrose says he hadn't called Monk since Trudy's death because it was his fault she died. He said she was in the car because she was going to get him something.
Libaax
08-17-2009, 02:26 PM
Is it the last season really ?
I think the greatness of Monk is that its the only great episodic crime show on tv thes days. Its the actors,writing,team that makes it good not the storylines.
Although i like the few arcs there is like Trudy oriented ones.
I will miss Monk badly.
Is it the last season really ?
I think the greatness of Monk is that its the only great episodic crime show on tv thes days. Its the actors,writing,team that makes it good not the storylines.
Although i like the few arcs there is like Trudy oriented ones.
I will miss Monk badly.
This is indeed the last season, except for the "Little Monk" webisodes.
Vidocq
08-17-2009, 06:55 PM
When was it established that she didn't trust who she was going to meet?
In the episode where Monk is visiting his brother during some fair Ambrose says he hadn't called Monk since Trudy's death because it was his fault she died. He said she was in the car because she was going to get him something.
Mr. Monk and the Actor I think it was called. It also showed that Monk had blocked out the fact that she asked him to go with her but he was too tired.
Kirayoshi
08-17-2009, 08:20 PM
That's a possibility. I like it when mysteries turn out to be a batman's gambit but why wouldn't he just kill Monk? Unless, he either figured that if Monk died, Trudy, a condecorated investigative reporter, wouldn't rest until finding out who did it or he thought that Monk was going to be in the car with Trudy and his breakdown was just a lucky shot.
Exactly. If Monk were killed, Trudy wouldn't rest until his killer was brought to justice. Trudy's death resulted in Monk's total breakdown, which would throw any evidence Monk had uncovered into doubt to the point where it would be dismissed from any court.
Vidocq
08-18-2009, 01:24 AM
I like your theory. Let me expand a little from there, If this were the case then killer would have to find a way to monitor Monk all this time to make sure everything is going according to plan, also said person would need an acute understanding of human nature to predict the magnitude of Monk's breakdown (although the killer probably overestimated it since Monk showed signs of recovery).
I am going to try and predict who the killer might be based on this, but you will all think I'm crazy. Dr Neven Bell
I know, It would seem impossible, but Dr Bell was friends with Dr Kroger, so he might have gained access to Monk's file without Dr Kroger knowing. While Dr. Kroger used to correct Monk in certain areas trying his best so that he would make any breakthrough, Dr Bell just lets him be. He even keeps wipes in his office just for Monk, which could be seen as him encouraging this behaviour.
It would make perfect sense if only it explained who the judge is. Maybe an acomplice.
Major Comma
08-21-2009, 07:33 PM
"The Judge" could be a nickname for a court appointed psychiatrist who is assigned to determine if a defendant could stand trial.
Major Comma
08-21-2009, 07:35 PM
Double post.
Vidocq
08-22-2009, 05:09 PM
What a funny episode that last one was.
For the love of God, Mr Monk show them your belly bottom!
-NEVER!
I'm sooo going to miss this show.
Can't wait to see Sharona's comeback.
So, Monk wouldn't have an amputee for his therapist; but sits next to one to gain an armrest?
Ok, so it looks like the judge is calling the shots, and the poison's in the wipes.
Lasko8734
11-29-2009, 01:46 PM
Who's watchin the Monk marathon right now?
The Scarlet Sapien
11-29-2009, 03:03 PM
Ok, so it looks like the judge is calling the shots, and the poison's in the wipes.
The wipes, you say? That is damned ingenious. Verrrry pleased with the show, Friday
The wipes, you say? That is damned ingenious. Verrrry pleased with the show, Friday
They checked everything else. He's always wiping his hands; the judge knows this, as do several of his other enemies. The wipes are thrown out as soon as Monk uses them, and the chemicals might even break down once they've dried out. Most brands are sold in resealable bags; sticking a needle into them would be quick and easy.
My only quibble would be that if he knows he's going to die, why wouldn't he ask to see Ambrose?
SUPERECWFAN1
11-29-2009, 03:24 PM
They checked everything else. He's always wiping his hands; the judge knows this, as do several of his other enemies. The wipes are thrown out as soon as Monk uses them, and the chemicals might even break down once they've dried out. Most brands are sold in resealable bags; sticking a needle into them would be quick and easy.
My only quibble would be that if he knows he's going to die, why wouldn't he ask to see Ambrose?
Because Ambrose as we saw in one episode has guilt over Trudy's death. That he feels he shouldn't have been such a burdin to her and Adrian. So imagine if Monk stops by and tells his brother he's dying. Ambrose will feel even more guilt.
If he passes I'm sure Monk has told Stottlemyer and company to claim he passed away of a heart attack or something. Not that he was posioned.
Lasko8734
11-29-2009, 05:55 PM
I think I am the only one who would like to see Monk die, as everyone is going to gain satisfaction at the end of the series except for him, and he does deserve to be reunited with his wife
Toonimator
11-30-2009, 11:40 AM
Monk dying to "be with his wife" may be a poetic end, but it's also a bummer of an end. He needs a happy ending, in a Monk-way. They already eliminated him returning to the police force, which is fine... I think the satisfying end would be getting over a couple more things, and moving on with his life, whether it's continuing with consultant work or something else.
Mental-Trudy will probably want him to move on. He's opened the gift, he'll solve the murder (and the saddest part is that he probably could've solved it 12 years earlier...), and he may even get over his wipe-obsession if that's really where the poison is (good call there) and... maybe he can move on. He won't be 'cured' of everything, of course, but maybe he can go back to living like he did when Trudy was alive. I think that's the best possible ending; he won't be a 'prisoner' anymore.
Lasko8734
11-30-2009, 03:01 PM
Monk dying to "be with his wife" may be a poetic end, but it's also a bummer of an end. He needs a happy ending, in a Monk-way. They already eliminated him returning to the police force, which is fine... I think the satisfying end would be getting over a couple more things, and moving on with his life, whether it's continuing with consultant work or something else.
Mental-Trudy will probably want him to move on. He's opened the gift, he'll solve the murder (and the saddest part is that he probably could've solved it 12 years earlier...), and he may even get over his wipe-obsession if that's really where the poison is (good call there) and... maybe he can move on. He won't be 'cured' of everything, of course, but maybe he can go back to living like he did when Trudy was alive. I think that's the best possible ending; he won't be a 'prisoner' anymore.
Yeah. That probably will be what happens
gorosaurus
12-01-2009, 09:30 PM
The wipes being poison is a great idea; I wonder if Natalie's new boyfriend is on the the poisoning of Monk. And my memory is hazy; didn't Monk drink wine at dinner, while everyone else drank something else? And the wine was bought before Natalie went to the grocery store. The bf could have poisoned Adrian's drink, but not the bottle.
Lasko8734
12-04-2009, 06:50 AM
12 hours till it's all over!
steve2275
12-04-2009, 07:35 AM
Apparently a guy known only as ''The Judge'' ordered the hit, Dale the Whale already figured out who The Judge is or at least that's what he claims. .isnt he played by the great craig t nelson?
Lasko8734
12-04-2009, 07:36 AM
isnt he played by the great craig t nelson?
What was that judge's name?
Redseed
12-04-2009, 08:01 PM
It's Over
.... :)
SUPERECWFAN1
12-04-2009, 08:05 PM
In case I give a spoiler away.... skip down......
It was good to see the series end so open. Monk will never stop doing what he loves. He will be investigating murders for the rest of his life and solving crimes . Trudy's daughter said it would be so wrong for him to quit what he loves doing.
I did like that they did a "wink , wink" to the whole "I once left the stove on..." From the 1st episode where he left the stove on as he told Sharona . :tongue:
Very pleased with the ending.
mikekerr3
12-04-2009, 08:32 PM
The ending suited the show perfectly, a great capstone.
The tape was heartrending though.
Praxis
12-04-2009, 08:36 PM
I really liked the ending. Spoilers to follow.
I thought the show did a great job with these final two episodes. The poison gave monk a sense of urgency and energy that filled the show and made it much higher tension than usual. Now having the plot device video that held the crucial piece of evidence be in Monks possession the entire time actually worked for me. Any normal person would have been able to crack the case in the first week if they opened the box, but Monk couldn't do that and put himself through years of hell. And finally the judge. He wasn't the evil mastermind that some expected or even a Moriarty type rival for Monk, he was just a guy who was looking out for him own material interests with an utter lack of morals. His paranoia and need to need to completely erase any link of himself to the crime was his eventual downfall though, since without him, Monk would have never found the need to watch the video. The architect of his own destruction. Well like I said, I thought it wrapped the series up very well, everyone got their own sense of closure but life goes on.
master of read
12-04-2009, 10:47 PM
its sad that we wont see monk any more but it couldnt have ended better.
we will miss ya, monk.
MacQuarrie
12-05-2009, 01:37 AM
I guess I'm the only one who hated these two episodes. Terrible terrible awful script. Logic holes the size of the Holland Tunnel. Contrived, lame, mawkish dialogue. A plot lifted from a movie that's been done better twice before (D.O.A.).
The business with Molly was creepy and borderline stalkerish.
Thank God they put this show out of its misery before it got any worse.
SUPERECWFAN1
12-05-2009, 07:55 AM
I guess I'm the only one who hated these two episodes. Terrible terrible awful script. Logic holes the size of the Holland Tunnel. Contrived, lame, mawkish dialogue. A plot lifted from a movie that's been done better twice before (D.O.A.).
The business with Molly was creepy and borderline stalkerish.
Thank God they put this show out of its misery before it got any worse.
Speaking of D.O.A here was a review of the 1950's version. Which made me chuckle...
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0042369/
When I started watching all the film noirs I could find, I was a bit disappointed in this. However, after three viewings I now find it decent. It's nothing super, but certainly better than what I though at first. A big help is having a better print of the film. This is one of those movies that always had a poor VHS quality transfer and many times the same on DVD. Finding a good print is hard, although I finally got a decent one with this Killer Classic DVD set that includes this movie.
The story, like the print, is not always easy to follow, either, even though the premise is very simple. A man discovers he has been poisoned and there is no hope for recovery. Before he dies, he retraces his steps to find out who "murdered him" (even though he's still alive when saying that) and why.
The story gets a bit complicated. Like a Sherlock Holmes or Charlie Chan mystery, there are a number of suspects that keep popping up. Many of them are hard to figure.
This is an odd film noir for several quirky things in this movie. The lead character, "Frank Bigelow" (Edmund O'Brien), is strange and kind of stupid in the beginning. There are a half dozen of these dumb whistle-like wolf call sound-effects that come out every time he sees a pretty woman. It just doesn't fit in a tough film noir. Then there is his possessive girlfriend/secretary "Paula," (Pamela Britton) who is constantly calling him and paranoid about his whereabouts. She acts more like an insecure, nagging wife but she obviously cares a great deal about him. But, man, give the poor guy some space!
The dialog in this film ranges from incredibly stupid to very clever and solid film noir material.
We also see one of the most sadistic people I have ever seen on film: "Chester," played by the sadistic-looking Neville Brand. Wow, is this guy sick or what? He reminded me of "Vera" (Ann Savage) in "Detour." Those two would have made an interesting couple! Brand's character is only interested in one thing in life: inflicting pain and the slower and more brutal, the better.
Anyway, if you find a good print, tolerate some of the goofy things in the film, this is an interesting film noir that gets better with each viewing, as you understand the story better.
The next review is worse for the remake with Dennis Quaid and Meg Ryan . So ....after this I'll stick with Monk. And his comic posioning and having days to live. :tongue:
I guess I'm the only one who hated these two episodes. Terrible terrible awful script. Logic holes the size of the Holland Tunnel. Contrived, lame, mawkish dialogue. A plot lifted from a movie that's been done better twice before (D.O.A.).
The business with Molly was creepy and borderline stalkerish.
Thank God they put this show out of its misery before it got any worse.
Yeah, I agree about Molly, besides how many women would even want to meet a guy who isn't related to them, but knew her mother and now wants to be involved in every facet of her life? And now all of a sudden Randy's qualified to be a police chief?
Lasko8734
12-05-2009, 01:47 PM
I thought the ending was OK
originally was mad, but I think my expectations were too high (I only got into this show about 3 months ago)
anyways, I'm glad everything turned out the way it did. The thing with Trudy's daughter, yeah Monk was acting a little stalkerish, but if the daughter is OK with it, I'm OK with it, and I always saw Randy as a excellent police officer, just had a couple zany ideas.
I only wish the entire scene with the Judge would've lasted longer and would've ended with Monk beating out his teeth before he got arrested. Kinda mad that he escaped the justice he greatly deserved
anyways, I give this a 7.5/10
DF2506
12-05-2009, 03:00 PM
I thought the last episode was great. Actually, the last two were great, but I especially liked the final one.
I think Molly is great. Monk needs her in his life. Its not stalkerish at all imo. Monk is treating her like she's his daughter. He needs that relationship. Someone to keep him going, like Trudy did. You could see at the end of the episode that Monk was doing so much better. He was walking on the beach, going to the movies, etc. He was back to how he was with Trudy. He's not cured, he'll never be cured. He was different when Trudy was alive too. No, just having a "daughter" like Molly improves his life. And since she likes him, wants to know him, and have her in his life, he's not a stalker. I think its great that they found each other. :)
As for Randy as the police chief, well....lol. At least he's happy. He may have not been the smartest guy around, but he was a good person.
Anyway, I loved the ending. I thouight it was perfect.
DF2506
MacQuarrie
12-05-2009, 03:57 PM
I thought the last episode was great. Actually, the last two were great, but I especially liked the final one.
I think Molly is great. Monk needs her in his life. Its not stalkerish at all imo. Monk is treating her like she's his daughter. He needs that relationship. Someone to keep him going, like Trudy did. You could see at the end of the episode that Monk was doing so much better. He was walking on the beach, going to the movies, etc. He was back to how he was with Trudy. He's not cured, he'll never be cured. He was different when Trudy was alive too. No, just having a "daughter" like Molly improves his life. And since she likes him, wants to know him, and have her in his life, he's not a stalker. I think its great that they found each other. :)
As for Randy as the police chief, well....lol. At least he's happy. He may have not been the smartest guy around, but he was a good person.
Anyway, I loved the ending. I thouight it was perfect.
DF2506
The only episode I've seen that was worse was the one with the chimp. But then Monk has been in the crapper since the third season. I was hoping they'd try to elevate the quality for the finale, but evidently not. Good to know I made the right decision in dropping the show back then.
JCAll
12-05-2009, 05:45 PM
I don't really like how they wrapped nothing up. If t were a network show I would suspect we'd be getting made for TV movies a few years down the road. But its as good an end to as series as you can hope for I guess. Ihe best part ws probably at the end, when Monk was wearing a different suit.
Legato
12-05-2009, 05:53 PM
I felt the video was a complete ass pull. All the evidence Monk collected they introduced the video right off the bat. Also that scene with the video was pretty cliched IMO.
I respect that Monk wanted to spend time with Molly but could he have done it in a way that didn't make him come off as a stalker? Randy really didn't prove anything that would grant him a promotion as a police chief, I like the guy but really him being promoted as the chief made no sense.
I did like that Monk was showing signs of improving after he solved his wife's murder.
SUPERECWFAN1
12-05-2009, 09:35 PM
Yeah, I agree about Molly, besides how many women would even want to meet a guy who isn't related to them, but knew her mother and now wants to be involved in every facet of her life? And now all of a sudden Randy's qualified to be a police chief?
Randy has been a Lt. for years. He was always a good cop. Over eager and all , he'd make mistakes at times with that over eagerness at times. But he learned from Monk and Stottlemyer and he's in a small town/city. I'm sure Randy's record as a cop helped him get the job.
I thought the last episode was great. Actually, the last two were great, but I especially liked the final one.
I think Molly is great. Monk needs her in his life. Its not stalkerish at all imo. Monk is treating her like she's his daughter. He needs that relationship. Someone to keep him going, like Trudy did. You could see at the end of the episode that Monk was doing so much better. He was walking on the beach, going to the movies, etc. He was back to how he was with Trudy. He's not cured, he'll never be cured. He was different when Trudy was alive too. No, just having a "daughter" like Molly improves his life. And since she likes him, wants to know him, and have her in his life, he's not a stalker. I think its great that they found each other. :)
As for Randy as the police chief, well....lol. At least he's happy. He may have not been the smartest guy around, but he was a good person.
Anyway, I loved the ending. I thouight it was perfect.
DF2506
Remember Molly is part of Trudy. People would always wonder , how could Trudy handle Monk and all his phobias and things he did. But she did. Because she saw a good man under that . Molly in a scene even echoed her mom and said that Monk has a gift.
She likely sees Monk as this loving "other" father she has now. Who knew and loved her mom so much. That of course he's zany (600+ pics in 3 days) but he means well. That he will always mean well and be there for her.
It was a nice ending. Each of the cast members all got rewarded for things. Even Sharona who left , got rewarded with a big settlement for Benji's college and Randy. Someone who we know is a good man and unlike her ex-husband.
Major Comma
12-05-2009, 11:10 PM
Pitch perfect ending,flawlessly executed .
I will miss the show .
Deathstroke
12-07-2009, 05:10 AM
So what can you give me for detailed spoilerage about the final episode?
Lasko8734
12-07-2009, 06:30 AM
So what can you give me for detailed spoilerage about the final episode?
Monk is investigating the death of a midwife. Monks wipes get poisoned and he has like 2 days b4 he dies. The guy who poisoned them were sent by the judge. Leland and Randy try to catch the guy so they can figure out what the poison was and thus find a cure, but the guy is hit by a train. Monk opens Trudy's gift and it reveals that she had an affair with Judge Ethan Rickover, got pregnant and had a miscarraige. Rickover ran for office 10 years after the affair and killed Trudy and the midwife to cover it up. Monk goes to Rickover's chambers and gives him a minor no holds bar beatdown (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NoHoldsBarredBeatdown) before he is carried a way and sent back to the hospital. Meanwhile, Natalie gets poisoned and they are thus able to locate the source(they didn't know it was the wipes) and create an antidote. But when Leland goes to tell Monk, it is revealed that Monk escaped the hospital and took a cops gun and car. Monk approaches Rickover and holds him at gunpoint at his home and tells him to start digging under the sundial under his tree. At this point Randy and Leland have mad eit to Rickover's house and are pleading with him not to do it. Monk tells Rickover to keep digging and eventually he reaches human bones:The midwife's. Monk reveals that he knew that's where the midwife was buried because it would be redundant to put a sundial under a tree which shades it. Monk puts the gun down and Leland congratulates him, however Rickover picks up the gun and kills himself, his last words being "take care of her".2 weeks later, Monk is visiting Dr. Bell. He says he supposed to be happy, but is still trying to figure what Ethan meant. It is revealed that Trudy didn't have a miscarraige, and the baby got adopted. Monk meets Trudy's daughter and they bond. Randy becomes a police chief in NJ and moves in with Sharona, and Monk stays being a police consultant. The end
I probably left out a buttload of info, sorry
giovedi
12-07-2009, 08:11 AM
The last 20 minutes of the series finale were predictable... But I'm glad Monk got his happy ending.
Even though I loved Monk, I sort of hoped he would end up dying.
More than 9 million viewers tuned in to say goodbye: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3i6b990557a161eea88a5523865df3d337
SUPERECWFAN1
12-07-2009, 10:30 AM
They used Monk's finale as we see to power "White Collar" now. It was smart thinking and it helped that show. I'll miss Monk , but the network has Pysche , Burn Notice , White Collar , Criminal Intent and all....so the network has quality shows.
Legato
12-07-2009, 11:14 AM
The last 20 minutes of the series finale were predictable... But I'm glad Monk got his happy ending.
Even though I loved Monk, I sort of hoped he would end up dying.
I see whare your coming from. Yet in the back of my mind I feel Trudy would rather Monk live on and continue saving lives.
The finale IMHO wasn't flawless but I liked that Monk got some closure and that he is recovering. If I could name any character that deserves a true happy ending Monk would be number one on my list.
Sean Walsh
12-07-2009, 11:39 AM
For someone who expects a series finale these days to be jam packed with huge developments, obligatory farewells and numerous plot conclusions crammed into an hour of time, this was a nice change from that trend.
It was well paced out.....they didn't pack the episode with a lot of unnecessary clutter.....the main threat was done away with 20 minutes before it ended, leaving the show's final moments to wrap some stuff up.....and the character got his well deserved closure and long overdue happiness.....
Very well done.
The Scarlet Sapien
12-07-2009, 11:55 AM
I guess I'm the only one who hated these two episodes. Terrible terrible awful script. Logic holes the size of the Holland Tunnel. Contrived, lame, mawkish dialogue. A plot lifted from a movie that's been done better twice before (D.O.A.).
The business with Molly was creepy and borderline stalkerish.
Thank God they put this show out of its misery before it got any worse.
Thanks. We completely disagree about the show, but your post reminded me to finally look up the word Mawkish.:smile:
Red Lotus
12-07-2009, 12:02 PM
Randy has been a Lt. for years. He was always a good cop. Over eager and all , he'd make mistakes at times with that over eagerness at times. But he learned from Monk and Stottlemyer and he's in a small town/city. I'm sure Randy's record as a cop helped him get the job.
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This almost feels like a set up to a spin off. They could have easily said that Sharona was moving back to live with Randy.
Deathstroke
12-07-2009, 03:14 PM
So is the second woman who helps Monk still with him?
SUPERECWFAN1
12-07-2009, 04:10 PM
So is the second woman who helps Monk still with him?
Yeah Natalie is still with him til the end. The very final minutes had Natalie arrive and be packing Trudy's things. The phone rang and she annouced it : "Captain wants to see us , theres been a murder."
So they left to the scene as we see Monk , Natalie and Stottlemyer meet em at the crime scene.
Legato
12-07-2009, 08:37 PM
Is anyone rather disappointed that Natalie and Monk didn't hook up? I know that kind of thing would be cliched but considering the bond the two have got I did expect the both of them being in a relationship
MacQuarrie
12-08-2009, 02:03 AM
Randy has been a Lt. for years. He was always a good cop. Over eager and all , he'd make mistakes at times with that over eagerness at times. But he learned from Monk and Stottlemyer and he's in a small town/city. I'm sure Randy's record as a cop helped him get the job.
In this very episode, Randy's bungling caused a major panic in the train station which resulted in the killer nearly escaping, along with lord only knows how many injuries. Randy's record as a cop shouldn't get him hired as a security guard at 7-11. Just one more lame contrivance to add to the pile.
Davideaux
12-08-2009, 02:12 AM
I'm not a big fan of the show. I enjoy watching it with my wife from time to time. I saw the last episode. I agree with MacQuarrie. It was sloppy and anti-climactic. I didn't like the stalker vibe Monk was projecting.
steve2275
12-08-2009, 05:52 AM
I didn't like the stalker vibe Monk was projecting.he's imagining his daughter is trudy
he's imagining his daughter is trudy
Molly is the judge's daughter; she is not related to Monk.
giovedi
12-08-2009, 12:08 PM
Molly is the judge's daughter; she is not related to Monk.
Not biologically, but they are related by law in some way. Molly would have been Monk's step-daughter.
I don't think I would have wanted to see Monk and Natalie get together. When she she meet the Navy guy she was dating? I must have missed that (I've been watching the show on and off the past 2 years).
SUPERECWFAN1
12-08-2009, 12:20 PM
Is anyone rather disappointed that Natalie and Monk didn't hook up? I know that kind of thing would be cliched but considering the bond the two have got I did expect the both of them being in a relationship
Nah , I could take father/daughter with Natalie better than girlfriend/boyfriend with them. She is like his Watson in a sense. She at times helps him more than he will realize .
In this very episode, Randy's bungling caused a major panic in the train station which resulted in the killer nearly escaping, along with lord only knows how many injuries. Randy's record as a cop shouldn't get him hired as a security guard at 7-11. Just one more lame contrivance to add to the pile.
Of course if ya watched , Randy got the Police Chief job 2 weeks before that. He was given the job before the whole comic bungling with the train station. Randy's record beyond being over eager (at one point he is gonna start a taskforce and has everyone ready in one episode as Stottlemyer has to slow him down) isn't horrible.
He wouldn't have kept his badge if he was a horrible cop and been replaced awhile back. They odds are thought when he was hired : "Hmmm he's been a Lt. in San Fransico for a decade. Thats a huge city , so he could handle our small city easy."
Toonimator
12-08-2009, 01:39 PM
I don't think I would have wanted to see Monk and Natalie get together. When she she meet the Navy guy she was dating? I must have missed that (I've been watching the show on and off the past 2 years).
That would be the submarine episode; he was Mitch's best friend, or something like that, and they kissed on the sub and Natalie went through the whole "Dead husband's best friend" thing, but at the end of the episode they left it as if they'd be seeing each other again.
Re: Randy... wouldn't being the chief mean he's mostly behind the desk? That alone would probably prevent some of his bumbling...but local press conferences would be VERY amusing, I imagine.
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