View Full Version : Let Grant Morrison write anything he Darn Well wants !
SUPERECWFAN1
08-06-2009, 10:50 AM
If theres one thing in this world we know for sure....Grant Morrison equals $$$. The man is just a walking cash register at DC. He could write a Johnny DC title and that book would become a #1 selling book and move 30,000-50,000 copies a month.
Lets look at Morrison's HIT LIST. He comes back to DC and decided to revamp the 7 Soldiers of Victory in a bunch of miniseries that would tie-in to reveal a huge epic story overall. Morrison took a group of characters who really are C/D List heroes at DC and was suddenly selling 30,000-40,000 copies alone. Just on the strength of the Grant Morrison name.
Then Morrison helped do a lot of 52* . The fun Dr. Morrow island stuff was credited to him. The whole wackyness of it all...was credited to Grant Morrison . He moves on to Batman next...and basically has that book start selling even more huge. And his RIP storyline...even though I sadly couldn't make sense of it halfway in , I know from his interviews it was supposed to be Grand storytelling. I accept that clunker since Grant Morrison has given us all kinds of good works.
He did Final Crisis. And even though it too halfway in was a bit of a curve ball...I understood what he trying to do there.
So now he's on Batman & Robin , and thus far the book has been good. Really good. And sales are HUGGGGEE. Morrison's nailed down yet another HIT.
And rumblings are ...he wants to do Wonder Woman. Who are we to deny that Morrison could deliver a HIT like he has with Batman & Robin ? Lets be honest....Morrison should be allowed to write Blue Devil if he wishes at this point.
So as this thread says.... 'Let Morrison write whatever he wants !"
WorstThingUS
08-06-2009, 11:03 AM
I'm thinking....no. Every writer can't do everything. Gail Simone is an excellent writer, but her Atom bored me to tears and I expected more from Wonder Woman. But at the same time, Secret Six is rocking my socks off. So, no.
Melfice
08-06-2009, 11:08 AM
I would love to see Grant Morrison write some new IP for DC. Something he can control 100% like Seaguy. Which is a great series. DC needs to have Grant have a run on a Vertigo title again. I would love to see him on Hellblazer after Peter's run is over.
Also, I know this would never happen, but I think he would be a great fit for a few arcs in Fables or Jack of Fables too. Man, that would be sweet indeed
ChairthrowerLad
08-06-2009, 11:16 AM
I'm thinking....no. Every writer can't do everything. Gail Simone is an excellent writer, but her Atom bored me to tears and I expected more from Wonder Woman. But at the same time, Secret Six is rocking my socks off. So, no.
Whats funny is that Simone and Morrison both had a hand in creating Ryan Choi....I bet those books would have been significantly different if Grant had written them. Not saying better or worse...just different.
Personally, I am all for letting him write whatever he wants. Even his stories that are mediocre are better than a lot of the stuff that gets published these days anyways.
ryerye17
08-06-2009, 11:21 AM
i love grant morrison. i just love his JLA and his seven soldiers was legendary
dumbstruck
08-06-2009, 11:43 AM
No, he shouldn't. For me, he lost a lot of goodwill with the atrocities that were RIP and FC.
Chiroptera
08-06-2009, 11:52 AM
I'm thinking....no. Every writer can't do everything. Gail Simone is an excellent writer, but her Atom bored me to tears and I expected more from Wonder Woman. But at the same time, Secret Six is rocking my socks off. So, no.
This.
There are somethings Morrison does well and some things he doesn't.
The same can be said for every writer that has ever been and ever will be.
Just because you want to write something doesn't mean you can. I'd love to write comedy, but I can't, I don't have the innate capability for comedy stories.
Every good writer knows there strong suits, and knows where to invest their skill; and in comics an editor who is doing his job also knows what their writers are good at and what they either need to practice on or need to avoid entirely.
I'd also agree that I'd love to see Morrison on an independent title. I've hated everything he did in Batman, but I loved All-Star Superman, and his JLA was hit or miss for me from story arc to arc. The one thing I've found is always true, the more leeway he has, the better his story will be. HE seems to shine his brightest when he's not hampered by on-going continuity and editorial mandates. I'd like to see him on something that he has full creative control over.
jAWSH!
08-06-2009, 11:55 AM
Morrison has a ton of great ideas. I think sometimes he doesn't get enough time to fully develop some of his concepts. Final Crisis should have been 12 issues at the very least. Seven Soldiers could have easily gone on another 6 issues.
So Wonder Woman? Absolutely. I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
And how awesome is Multiversity gonna be? :cool:
FeminineMystique
08-06-2009, 12:26 PM
If theres one thing in this world we know for sure....Grant Morrison equals $$$. The man is just a walking cash register at DC. He could write a Johnny DC title and that book would become a #1 selling book and move 30,000-50,000 copies a month.
Lets look at Morrison's HIT LIST. He comes back to DC and decided to revamp the 7 Soldiers of Victory in a bunch of miniseries that would tie-in to reveal a huge epic story overall. Morrison took a group of characters who really are C/D List heroes at DC and was suddenly selling 30,000-40,000 copies alone. Just on the strength of the Grant Morrison name.
Then Morrison helped do a lot of 52* . The fun Dr. Morrow island stuff was credited to him. The whole wackyness of it all...was credited to Grant Morrison . He moves on to Batman next...and basically has that book start selling even more huge. And his RIP storyline...even though I sadly couldn't make sense of it halfway in , I know from his interviews it was supposed to be Grand storytelling. I accept that clunker since Grant Morrison has given us all kinds of good works.
He did Final Crisis. And even though it too halfway in was a bit of a curve ball...I understood what he trying to do there.
So now he's on Batman & Robin , and thus far the book has been good. Really good. And sales are HUGGGGEE. Morrison's nailed down yet another HIT.
And rumblings are ...he wants to do Wonder Woman. Who are we to deny that Morrison could deliver a HIT like he has with Batman & Robin ? Lets be honest....Morrison should be allowed to write Blue Devil if he wishes at this point.
So as this thread says.... 'Let Morrison write whatever he wants !"
Yes, who cares whether the book is any good or not, so long as it puts lots of money in DC's pocket?:tongue:
A lot of Morrison's recent work has been riffing on the inherent darkness within, and the struggle to overcome that darkness. There are characters who I think would be hurt by focusing primarily on that philosophy, since their inner struggle would overshadow any attempted heroics.
(The only DC character that Morrison sets up as not having to struggle with inner darkness is Superman, by virtue of him being an ur-example of a super hero intent on helping others.)
NickFury90
08-06-2009, 12:43 PM
Isn't the basis of superhero books about "overcoming darkness"?
Isn't the basis of superhero books about "overcoming darkness"?
There's a difference between stopping criminals and struggling to overcome your inner flaws. I'm claiming that the second is what Morrison is focusing on.
king mob
08-06-2009, 12:53 PM
Morrison's by far the best writer working in superhero comics today, but I wish he'd move on and do more than superheroes as I'm a bit bored by much of his recent superhero work. Final Crisis was a splendid book and doesn't deserve the slagging it's taken, but it's not Seaguy or even Zenith. His Batman stuff was ok, (and yes, Batman & Robin is a wonderful comic) but it seemed like he was cruising.
A Morrison Wonder Woman would be interesting as it make take a fairly dull character and make her worth reading, but again, why not try something original first rather than grinding out revamps.
Matthew E
08-06-2009, 12:53 PM
I, on the other hand, thought that The All-New Atom was great.
I don't think there's any need to replace Simone on Wonder Woman. But if you were going to, there's no reason Morrison wouldn't be an excellent choice.
Calybos
08-06-2009, 01:00 PM
DC needs strong editors at the helm to keep a lid on the writers' excesses of insanity. That's always been true, and it's no less true with Morrison than anyone else.
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direction9
08-06-2009, 01:03 PM
the guy isn't flawless, but let's face it, he's the best writer working now and he's the god of all comics.
ChairthrowerLad
08-06-2009, 01:06 PM
I, on the other hand, thought that The All-New Atom was great.
I don't think there's any need to replace Simone on Wonder Woman. But if you were going to, there's no reason Morrison wouldn't be an excellent choice.
Simone is great. I would love to see Joe Kelly write Wonder Woman.
I realize that is off topic..just saying
The only times I felt Grant Morrison let me down a little was Batman RIP and FC. And that was probably because of a lot of changes requested by the editors, which hampered the story or left dangling plot threads and whatnot.
So if you let Grant Morrison take a story/title, leave him be!
Mind you, I'm not saying the editors shouldn't do what is essentially their job... Just get a lowdown from Grant before he starts writing and make changes then. Not after you've OK'ed something then you changed your mind...
:biggrin:
I'm always willing to check out what Grant Morrison writes for the comics. He brought me into reading them back in the 80's- along with a bunch of other writers from the British Invasion- with all that wonderful weirdness he did.
I haven't liked everything he has done, but I am more apt to pick something up and look at it if he is the writer.
I would trust him with DC stuff. His DC stuff is solid at worst, great at best. He has a knack for getting readers to really accept whatever he's selling. He definitely needs a good editor, as his ideas run amok would be difficult to understand and untangle (like FC).
I'm all for Grant writing Wonder Woman. A few others would be John Stewart, various GLCs, Prometheus again, and Zoom.
direction9
08-06-2009, 04:09 PM
grant fucking loves the flash, but he's johns' fav character and he's got a long term plan and all, so no real need for that. WW would be phenomenal.
And rumblings are ...he wants to do Wonder Woman. Who are we to deny that Morrison could deliver a HIT like he has with Batman & Robin ? Lets be honest....Morrison should be allowed to write Blue Devil if he wishes at this point.
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He's outright stated in an interview that he doesn't even like writing wonder woman and that he's unsure what to do with her. No, he shouldn't be allowed to write the character.
And for the record his Batman stuff in general has been horribly mediocre.
Lemurion
08-06-2009, 05:38 PM
I'd look at any DC stuff he writes: Of course I liked both FC and RIP and bought both in in HC.
I think he's very good and has incredible ideas.
MikeCr
08-06-2009, 05:54 PM
DC needs strong editors at the helm to keep a lid on the writers' excesses of insanity.
All is one in Darkseid.
carabas
08-06-2009, 06:05 PM
There's a difference between stopping criminals and struggling to overcome your inner flaws. I'm claiming that the second is what Morrison is focusing on.Can you give some examples? I don't see it.
nepenthes
08-06-2009, 06:54 PM
I love how the guys calling Morrisons Batman "mediocre" and such can just blatantly ignore the numbers that run sold in and the chorus of praise from many various quarters of comic readership. Old Batman fans, new Batman fans, lapsed comic readers, etc. What other Batman run has generated so much hype since Hush, or before Hush? Ha. whatever dudes
Cash Lone
08-06-2009, 07:08 PM
Morrison and J.H. Williams on a Spectre series. You know you could see it working and selling gangbusters.
Batman was taken
08-06-2009, 07:43 PM
I love how the guys calling Morrisons Batman "mediocre" and such can just blatantly ignore the numbers that run sold in and the chorus of praise from many various quarters of comic readership. Old Batman fans, new Batman fans, lapsed comic readers, etc. What other Batman run has generated so much hype since Hush, or before Hush? Ha. whatever dudes
How DARE someone voice a DIFFERENT OPINION!
Let's get him guys!
I love how the guys calling Morrisons Batman "mediocre" and such can just blatantly ignore the numbers that run sold in and the chorus of praise from many various quarters of comic readership. Old Batman fans, new Batman fans, lapsed comic readers, etc. What other Batman run has generated so much hype since Hush, or before Hush? Ha. whatever dudes
And red hulk has also had sales numbers.
I don't care what other people think. The book is mediocre the dialog was stiff, and the stories were way too over the top. I don't want to read about how batman is so awesome that he beat the devil himself.
I love how the guys calling Morrisons Batman "mediocre" and such can just blatantly ignore the numbers that run sold in and the chorus of praise from many various quarters of comic readership. Old Batman fans, new Batman fans, lapsed comic readers, etc. What other Batman run has generated so much hype since Hush, or before Hush? Ha. whatever dudes
Hush (and the reputation of its writer, Loeb), haven't aged well. I would not be shocked if Batman RIP didn't age well either (Morrison's reputation is mostly set in stone already.)
In fact, I'd argue both runs have similar weakness in writing, in that both Loeb and Morrison set up a mystery, but that the payoff for the mystery isn't particularly strong. (Depending on how strongly you feel about the reveal of the man who may or may not be the devil is.)
MikeCr
08-07-2009, 07:50 AM
Hush (and the reputation of its writer, Loeb), haven't aged well. I would not be shocked if Batman RIP didn't age well either (Morrison's reputation is mostly set in stone already.)
I would argue exactly the opposite. There'll always be a not insignificant rump of "didn't like it then; don't like it now and won't reconsider" folks, much like New X-Men, but over time, as people concentrate less on the mystery of the Black Glove and more on what the run has to say about Batman, it'll most likely only grow in critical and fan appreciation. Hush really has nothing else there to mull over other than the mystery of Hush's identity; it's just an excuse for Lee to draw one Batman character after another. Nothing wrong with that on it's own terms and it certainly works/worked for a lot of people but that's a fairly limited ambition. Morrison's run, while leading the reader to expect it to be the story of Batman's ultimate villain, is really about building the ultimate Batman. An integrationist REconstruction, rather than DEconstruction, of all the elements and iterations of a 70 year old character into one coherent vision that Morrison has of Batman as the perfected final ("ultimate") human. I don't think that it's a coincidence that he was doing a similar thing with Superman over in All-Star. Read together All-Star Superman, RIP (including the lead in), and Final Crisis form a remarkably elegant triptych about death, rebirth, and how they relate to the symbols of the DC pantheon. Now, I do suspect, contrary to Morrison's assertions, that both RIP and Final Crisis did end up creatively comprimised due to editorial interference, highly ironic in the case of Crisis, probably caused by the perceived importance of not "damaging" elements of a shared universe. Furthermore, neither of them reach anything near the "touching on perfection" technical excellence of All-Star Superman and they also either suffer from second rate or, at the least even when it's very good, inconsistent art. That's unfortunate and will keep them from being rated on the level of some of Morrison's very best but compared to about 95% of the utterly forgetable "feed the maw" material that has being published for Batman over the years RIP will continue to stand out, at the very least, for it's ambition.
dumbstruck
08-07-2009, 07:55 AM
And red hulk has also had sales numbers.
I don't care what other people think. The book is mediocre the dialog was stiff, and the stories were way too over the top. I don't want to read about how batman is so awesome that he beat the devil himself.
Agreed. I'd like to come up with some large, pretentious literary "metatextual" word like GM would, but sometimes the smallest words are the most effective. Dumb. That's what it was. Just dumb.
dumbstruck
08-07-2009, 07:59 AM
Now, I do suspect, contrary to Morrison's assertions, that both RIP and Final Crisis did end up creatively comprimised due to editorial interference, highly ironic in the case of Crisis, probably caused by the perceived importance of not "damaging" elements of a shared universe.
This is ridiculous. Having already written a much better crossover with DC One Million, Morrison should have known what to expect in terms of editorial input into the project. If his ego grew so much since One Million that he couldn't handle such input, then he shouldn't have offered to write FC.
Jim Thompson
08-07-2009, 08:11 AM
I'm a Morrison convert. I didn't particularly like what he did over at Marvel, and I had real concerns when I heard he was going to be working on Batman. I just never thought that character was suited to his strengths, but boy, did he prove me wrong. He's a big part of the reason I have switched most of my buying from Marvel to DC (Johns has been hitting stuff out of the park, too.) I thought Final Crisis was brilliant, too. It is nice to read a thought -provoking comic for a change, one that doesn't treat the reader as though he or she is a simpleton or a sex-starved boy.
Simply put, in Morrison I trust. If he wants to work on a title, I'd let him.
Calybos
08-07-2009, 08:42 AM
This is ridiculous. Having already written a much better crossover with DC One Million, Morrison should have known what to expect in terms of editorial input into the project. If his ego grew so much since One Million that he couldn't handle such input, then he shouldn't have offered to write FC.
Well said. Writing comics stories in a shared universe owned by editorial REQUIRES compromise, every single time. Writers who can't handle that (or who bitch and moan about it) should be writing their own independent stuff.
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Werehunter
08-07-2009, 09:03 AM
Didn't Morrison say that there was only one scene in all of Final Crisis that he was told to put in by Editorial? That doesn't sound like the event was ruined by Editorial interference.
Pól Rua
08-07-2009, 09:14 AM
There's a difference between stopping criminals and struggling to overcome your inner flaws. I'm claiming that the second is what Morrison is focusing on.
Like everyone in DC these days...
Actually, I'd say Morrison's doing it LESS than pretty much everyone else. It seems to be Dan DiDio's big story idea. Make all the heroes dark and conflicted and angsty and angry.
Try taking a look at 'Flash: Rebirth' for instance and telling me how it isn't about 'overcoming the darkness within'.
Or all the times members of the Teen Titans have 'gone evil'.
Or Hal being corrupted by rage and greed and whatnot over in 'Green Lantern'.
Or 'Blackest Night' where the heroes are being attacked by their former comrades.
Or Dick Grayson trying to deal with having a morally challenged Robin in Damien.
The DC Universe is about 'the darkness within'.
Frankly, I'm about ready to see someone punch a bank-robber or a mad scientist or two.
Pól Rua
08-07-2009, 09:18 AM
He's outright stated in an interview that he doesn't even like writing wonder woman and that he's unsure what to do with her. No, he shouldn't be allowed to write the character.
Um. No.
He said he was unsure of what to do with the character, and didn't think he could do her justice in a series as 'busy' as 'Final Crisis', but was interested in seeing if he couldn't get a handle on what made her tick and seeing what he could come up with when he had more room to do justice to the idea.
MikeCr
08-07-2009, 10:37 AM
This is ridiculous. Having already written a much better crossover with DC One Million, Morrison should have known what to expect in terms of editorial input into the project. If his ego grew so much since One Million that he couldn't handle such input, then he shouldn't have offered to write FC.
Was Final Crisis even a "crossover" though? It was certainly marketed as such and DC produced some spin-offs under its banner which were largely tangential to the core book but I recall a certain faction's main complaint being that "it didn't seem to be affecting the rest of the DC Universe (and is therefore "not important enough")."
Anything that it crossed over into outside of the core mini-series that was essential and carried pertinent story information was written by Morrison anyways: Superman Beyond, FC: Submit and the Batman issues basically. Even then I hestitate to call Submit essential (because it was crap) but it does fit between issues of the core series. From beginning to end this was a Morrison story pitched and conceived by him designed to realize ideas he had rather than simply serve as a "and then this happened next" story. Many of the people who have the biggest problems with Final Crisis are precisely those who refuse to see things through that lense and insist on fitting it into some over-arching narrative of the DC Universe conceived by editorial fiat and executed by hired writers... which, again, ironically, is exactly what the series is rebelling against!
Well said. Writing comics stories in a shared universe owned by editorial REQUIRES compromise, every single time. Writers who can't handle that (or who bitch and moan about it) should be writing their own independent stuff.
Why? Why do things have to line up? They don't half the time anyways and almost never do across time. Outside the vision of a solitary creator shared universes are always a hodge-podge of varying authorial voices that rarely sync and when producing their best material have most often just allowed creative individuals to go off on their own tangent free from editorial constraint.
Or is just to be "All is one in Darkseid" again?
Didn't Morrison say that there was only one scene in all of Final Crisis that he was told to put in by Editorial? That doesn't sound like the event was ruined by Editorial interference.
True, that's what he's said publicly. I have my suspicions from the text itself. Contrary to the "Morrison's ego" jibe above if I have a complaint about Grant it's that he's TOO MUCH of a team player willing to compromise his stories to the needs and desires of his colleagues. He strikes me very much as the anti-Alan Moore in the sense that he doesn't have Moore's driving search for perfection and uncomprimising attitude towards interference with his vision.
On the other hand, I also suspect that Final Crisis changed in Morrison's own hands over the course of its creation too so I don't think he's really lying when he says that it was all his in the final analysis.
p.s. And for the record I never used the word "ruined". "Compromised" yes; "ruined" no.
dumbstruck
08-07-2009, 10:48 AM
Was Final Crisis even a "crossover" though? It was certainly marketed as such and DC produced some spin-offs under its banner which were largely tangential to the core book but I recall a certain faction's main complaint being that "it didn't seem to be affecting the rest of the DC Universe (and is therefore "not important enough")."
Anything that it crossed over into outside of the core mini-series that was essential and carried pertinent story information was written by Morrison anyways: Superman Beyond, FC: Submit and the Batman issues basically. Even then I hestitate to call Submit essential (because it was crap) but it does fit between issues of the core series. From beginning to end this was a Morrison story pitched and conceived by him designed to realize ideas he had rather than simply serve as a "and then this happened next" story. Many of the people who have the biggest problems with Final Crisis are precisely those who refuse to see things through that lense and insist on fitting it into some over-arching narrative of the DC Universe conceived by editorial fiat and executed by hired writers... which, again, ironically, is exactly what the series is rebelling against!
Seems to me like you're splitting hairs. Ok, maybe it wasn't a crossover in the strictest sense, but it was a DCU event, with ramifications meant to affect all books. Didio was constantly saying in interviews the affects of FC would be felt in the DCU books by April. Any crossover or event is going to be subject to editorial input, and GM should have known that provided it's true regarding the interference being talked about.
Why? Why do things have to line up? They don't half the time anyways and almost never do across time. Outside the vision of a solitary creator shared universes are always a hodge-podge of varying authorial voices that rarely sync and when producing their best material have most often just allowed creative individuals to go off on their own tangent free from editorial constraint.
They have to line up precisely because it's a shared universe. If the writer is writing something "in-continuity" than there has to be a certain amount of synchronization. If the writer can't deal with that, then they shouldn't be writing in the shared universe.
Or is just to be "All is one in Darkseid" again?
True, that's what he's said publicly. I have my suspicions from the text itself. Contrary to the "Morrison's ego" jibe above if I have a complaint about Grant it's that he's TOO MUCH of a team player willing to compromise his stories to the needs and desires of his colleagues. He strikes me very much as the anti-Alan Moore in the sense that he doesn't have Moore's driving search for perfection and uncomprimising attitude towards interference with his vision.
And yet rumours about of GM writing and rewriting right up to, if not past his deadlines.
On the other hand, I also suspect that Final Crisis changed in Morrison's own hands over the course of its creation too so I don't think he's really lying when he says that it was all his in the final analysis.
For arguments sake, let's just say FC was not "all his in the final analysis." What happened to Dwayne McDuffie on JLA shows what happens when you speak out against the company line.
nepenthes
08-09-2009, 07:06 PM
I love how the guys calling Morrisons Batman "mediocre" and such can just blatantly ignore the numbers that run sold in and the chorus of praise from many various quarters of comic readership. Old Batman fans, new Batman fans, lapsed comic readers, etc. What other Batman run has generated so much hype since Hush, or before Hush? Ha. whatever dudes
How DARE someone voice a DIFFERENT OPINION!
Let's get him guys!
To deny objective reality isn't really "an opinion" though. The book sold in truckloads and received praise from many corners that don't usually give a shit about batman books. Those are facts. Morrisons run was a boon to the whole line-up.
I don't like the Green Lantern books very much, I can barely even read them - same goes for series like 100 Bullets or Captain America. But I would have to be kidding myself to call any of these "mediocre". Obviously they're not. There's alot more than personal preference to consider when making judgements like that
direction9
08-09-2009, 10:59 PM
Agreed. I'd like to come up with some large, pretentious literary "metatextual" word like GM would, but sometimes the smallest words are the most effective. Dumb. That's what it was. Just dumb.
lol you've put so much thought into this huh.
dumbstruck
08-10-2009, 09:32 AM
To deny objective reality isn't really "an opinion" though. The book sold in truckloads and received praise from many corners that don't usually give a shit about batman books. Those are facts. Morrisons run was a boon to the whole line-up.
I don't like the Green Lantern books very much, I can barely even read them - same goes for series like 100 Bullets or Captain America. But I would have to be kidding myself to call any of these "mediocre". Obviously they're not. There's alot more than personal preference to consider when making judgements like that
Quantity does not equal quality.
Jim Thompson
08-10-2009, 09:34 AM
Quantity does not equal quality.True, but it doesn't necessarily mean the reverse, either. I think far too often people think things that are mass produced lack quality, which may or may not be true.
dumbstruck
08-10-2009, 10:04 AM
True, but it doesn't necessarily mean the reverse, either. I think far too often people think things that are mass produced lack quality, which may or may not be true.
You may or may not be right.
Maybe.
Jim Thompson
08-10-2009, 10:09 AM
You may or may not be right.
Maybe.Actually, statistically, I'm factually correct. :tongue:
ClareQuilty
08-11-2009, 07:02 AM
I loved FC and RIP.
Id pretty much buy whatever he wrote...Wonder Woman though...that'd be a hard sell...
meethraa
08-16-2009, 09:48 PM
And red hulk has also had sales numbers.
I don't care what other people think. The book is mediocre the dialog was stiff, and the stories were way too over the top.
And that's what makes it a Grant Morrison book.
Goshin
08-16-2009, 09:49 PM
he better not touch x-men ever again
he better not touch x-men ever again
I don't know, I thought his take was refreshing and different. His run was the last time I read an X title.
Second_Stringer
08-25-2009, 03:47 PM
I love it anytime Morrison creates a new character, or dusts off an old one anybody else would consider irrelevant. He makes them hilarious, crazy, and cool all at the same time. I loved the Club of Heroes, Black Hand story he wrote in particular.
rexpop
08-25-2009, 04:02 PM
If Morrison has one flaw its that sometimes he just can't get the finish nailed down so it ends up feeling rushed with too much stuff coming out of left field. Final Crisis had this problem, #1-6 were near perfect, but #7 felt like I was reading a bunch of notes with pictures as stuff gets quickly introduced then resolved. Seven Soldiers had a similar problem with the ending. It doesn't make them bad projects, just somewhat flawed.
Generally Morrison works best where the characters fit into his pet themes; Youth vs Age, Order vs Disorder, Meta-Fiction and worlds within worlds. Animal Man and Doom Patrol are textbook examples. Similarly with New X-Men. Outside of that then he sometimes flounders. His Batman for example is somewhat hit and miss.
Lupek
08-25-2009, 04:36 PM
And rumblings are ...he wants to do Wonder Woman. Who are we to deny that Morrison could deliver a HIT like he has with Batman & Robin ? Lets be honest....Morrison should be allowed to write Blue Devil if he wishes at this point.
So as this thread says.... 'Let Morrison write whatever he wants !"
Agreed.
Let him write Wonder Woman. God forbid DC's most recognizable female superhero should be a financial success. DC needs to do something with WW to make it more than a niche book. There should be some kind of creative team or storyline shake up.
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