OMG! It's the Uncanny X-Men #514 PREVIEW!

[Azure]

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=3155&disp=table

And it's the best thing ever seen! Look, Dani Moonstar and Psylocke! And Daken! And... robot... things!

[.LuckyStar.]

OMG I love you!

[Home made ectoplasm]

looks alright actually,

lol @ Mindee retcon

[Personamanx]

Irma!!!!

That Means "S.P.I.C.E" has finally been completed!!!!

[darknessatnoon]

I know why Psylocke was wearing a wetsuit.

[Home made ectoplasm]

I know why Psylocke was wearing a wetsuit.

Because she is an offensive racial stereotype?

[Drey]

OMG I love you!

I was going to say that!!!! And OMG Psylocke looks AWESOME!!!!

Oh my beloved Gloriana you take my breath away. <3 <3 <3

Dani!!! <3 <3

[Robbiebob_16]

Scott is borrowing Laura?? Do I sense a Daken/X-23 showdown?! And I am now in love with Mindee after this preview.:biggrin:

[theXfactor]

Wonder what will be Psylocke's mission.
Great preview.

[Waterlily]

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=3155&disp=table

And it's the best thing ever seen! Look, Dani Moonstar and Psylocke! And... robot... things!

And... Daken!



I'm sold.

[Faded]

LOL
Nice.
Irma had the best Fraption. Its like Morrison Forever, putting things right.

Looks pretty good. I liked the wetsuit comment and the actual wetsuit itself, its cute.

[coveredinbees]

That was mean, and I thought it was Dazzler.

[alf_to_the_rescue]

I wonder if Bullseye bottoms for Daken this issue.

[Quinnhop]

looks alright actually,

lol @ Mindee retcon

I know, right?

I was planning on buying it anyways, for Dodson's art, but... If Fraction can maintain this level throughout the issue, I might have to reconsider my perception of his X-Men writing.

[The Phoenix King]

Thanks for sharing this, mate. This is probably the best X-related thing that Matt Fraction has done this far, and Cyke's briefing with the ladies was very cool. I wonder what Betsy's going to be up to? And with any luck, the X-Men could turn the Humanity Now! attack to their political advantage, use it to weaken support for Prop X and the anti-mutant movement. Overall, very pumped about this. And Betsy looks great (even if the costume is likely temporary)!

[SayOcean]

lol what the F^ck is up with up Irma???? Why??? and why is Dani Moonstar like Outlaw? does Moonstar have to wear feathers or a cowboy outfit for her to be recognized/?

Lol at Dominos question

and it looks pretty good

[Green Griffin]

Oh goodie, i can't wait to see X-23 mop the floor with Daken. That shall be awesome, who knows maybe she'll kill him but i know that won't happen. counting the days until Daken is taken care of once and for good.

[Personamanx]

Grant Morrison originally planned on the Cuckoo's names to spell out SPICE in an Acronym. Grant never managed to name Mindee so Chuck Austen Gave her that name.

With Irma SPICE has been completed, and all is right in the Universe.

[Supercoolshay]

lol @ Mindee retcon


seriously... Irma. Wtf! aren't they emma clones? When would they have gotten a chance to get "real" names?

[The Big G]

Scott is borrowing Laura?? Do I sense a Daken/X-23 showdown?! And I am now in love with Mindee after this preview.:biggrin:

I sense one too...though the pics from exodus gave it away already.

[Prodigy55]

I <3 Matt Fraction times infinity!

[Supercoolshay]

and why is Dani Moonstar like Outlaw?



I know seriously. I saw the sketch and thought it was outlaw and was SOOOO excited and then someone told me it Dani and I died a little on the inside.

[Dog]

Oh goodie, i can't wait to see X-23 mop the floor with Daken. That shall be awesome, who knows maybe she'll kill him but i know that won't happen. counting the days until Daken is taken care of once and for good.
... what's wrong with Daken?

[Illmatik]

Daken and X-23 face off in Dark Avengers/Uncanny X-Men Exodus #1. Can't wait for that!

[Faded]

Oh goodie, i can't wait to see X-23 mop the floor with Daken. That shall be awesome, who knows maybe she'll kill him but i know that won't happen. counting the days until Daken is taken care of once and for good.

I hope you can count big numbers, friend.

[Prodigy55]

S.P.I.C.E. has finally been completed. Then when S and E come back to life in Necrosha, Evil S.P.I.C.E. can assemble. SO HAPPY.

[Faded]

This will also help me remember their names more.

[Shade101]

Psylocke looks FANTABULOUS!

[RoguishGurl]

I think these previews look absolutely amazing.

[yanapryde]

Ooh Ooh! Dani Moonstar woot woot!
Wonder what is going on in Vegas that Dani needs to 'tend to...
I don't get the unrest regarding her accessories she is often illustrated with. She's always been stubborn about representing her roots (like with her belt when her character was introduced) so I don't see it as stereotyping. I see it as her representing her heritage.

Zeb Wells had stated that Fraction had some really great involvements for a few of the New Mutants team memmbers and we've already seen Sunspot get all captive-ized with the Spaz patrol.


Ooh Ooh! I love assignment assigning!
Domino is a hoot, with all her who what when wheres and I love that she sizes up Betsy about her outfit. ha! Good stuff!

Ooh Ooh! I totally thought the blonde was gonna be Dazzler but its a Cuckoo! Singling out a Cuckoo is great! Rather than grouping them constantly. Its nice to see them get some solo attention. And she's a plant in the system it seems! Wonder how THAT is going to work out! Maybe she will send a message to Emma for Scott??

And lastly...Ooh Ooh! Wet Bets! She looks great too! AND Asian. Well done Dodson! Well done!

[Bingo!]

Did I just see a Domino and Psylocke rivalry seed?

[Dave13]

Somebody tell me Marvel ain't planning to resurect E&S that their Fine with tis small retcon:confused:

[Ratstar]

Not particularly impressed... Cool to see Neena though. Dialogue and fraptions still feel kind of Whedonish, ew.

[steve2275]

S.P.I.C.E. has finally been completed. Then when S and E come back to life in Necrosha, Evil S.P.I.C.E. can assemble. SO HAPPY.
whats that stand for?

[Prodigy55]

This will also help me remember their names more.

omg, have you ever forgotten the name, code-name, powers, likes, dislikes and "most likely to" of any new x-men???? :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

whats that stand for?

The Stepford Cuckoo's names were supposed to spell SPICE originally. Sophie, Phoebe, Celeste and Esme were named, but then *someone* named the middle one Mindee. But now Fraction has changed it to Irma, so it's once again SPICE.

[Green Griffin]

... what's wrong with Daken?

He's lame, He looks like a mad max reject.

[Monty_Cristo]

such pretty art. i wish Shortpack was appearing.

[SynthesisNY]

S and E are dead. They are PIC now.

[darknessatnoon]

Domino needs to shut her face.

[Dave13]

S and E are dead. They are PIC now.

Unless They get Ressurrected in an Upcoming Necrosha

[Monty_Cristo]

S and E are dead. They are PIC now.

if Shortpack joined them they could be PICS or a racial slur.

[Prodigy55]

I'm so excited! IRMA IRMA IRMA!

[Daniel Mengsk]

I was going to say that!!!! And OMG Psylocke looks AWESOME!!!!

Oh my beloved Gloriana you take my breath away. <3 <3 <3

Dani!!! <3 <3

I thought of it first! lol

Matt Fraction.....I bow to thee sir.

[coveredinbees]

if Shortpack joined them they could be PICS or a racial slur.
Is Shortpack a racist?

Scott will shut it for her.

[rwsmith]

Oh goodie, i can't wait to see X-23 mop the floor with Daken. That shall be awesome, who knows maybe she'll kill him but i know that won't happen. counting the days until Daken is taken care of once and for good.

Agreed. And I also can't wait for Wolverine to enter this crossover. Looks like it may finally happen in this issue or the next. :cool:

[Monty_Cristo]

Is Shortpack a racist?


hmmm. i don't know. will being a racist guarantee him an appearance? :confused:

[coveredinbees]

hmmm. i don't know. will being a racist guarantee him an appearance? :confused:
Controversy sells, or so I heard.

[peopleofpaper]

I hope her wet suit stays permanently. Maybe she's going to dive in the sea to have secret rendezvous with Namor. I could care less about SPICE or PIC and Irma is a weird name. There are better I names!

[Monty_Cristo]

Controversy sells, or so I heard.

then i think Shortpack should dye himself black and go by 'Shortpack X.' he could be really militant and fully deny his whiteness.

or maybe he could just be racist against tall people.

[Daniel Mengsk]

Maybe she's going to dive in the sea to have secret rendezvous with Namor.

Good observation PoP! ;)

[Justin K.]

The Stepford Cuckoo's names were supposed to spell SPICE originally. Sophie, Phoebe, Celeste and Esme were named, but then *someone* named the middle one Mindee. But now Fraction has changed it to Irma, so it's once again SPICE.

PIC now, I don't like the name Irma though
Any other "I" names that could be better?

[Personamanx]

Isabelle, Isabella, Irene, Iris, Illyanna

[lockerogue]

I like that finally created SPICE but Irma is a little ugly. Isabelle would have been perfect. As a whole I really liked this preview. I love Psylocke's new costume and Dodson's Irma/Mindee is cute.

[otipep_90]

I agree Irma is an ugly I name but I think Fraction came up with the ugliest i name he could, as to explain why she would change her name to Mindee. Mindee is to perfect of a name, course it had to be fack, duh!:tongue:

[Justin K.]

I like that finally created SPICE but Irma is a little ugly. Isabelle would have been perfect. As a whole I really liked this preview. I love Psylocke's new costume and Dodson's Irma/Mindee is cute.

When I hear Irma, I think of this...

http://www.weirdspace.dk/JimDavis/Graphics/Irma.gif

[Daniel Mengsk]

When I hear Irma, I think of this...

http://www.weirdspace.dk/JimDavis/Graphics/Irma.gif

Shame on you Justin, Irma is good proper Swedish name, many Swedish women over 80 has that name:

http://www.honestmediatoday.com/old_woman_cartoon.jpg

[Last_Avenger]

Hm, I wonder what Dani is going to be doing in Vegas?

stripping, hooking, and gambling seem out of the question.

Who's in Vegas for her to get?

[Faded]

Irma fits the other names. I don't think they're particularly pretty names, but they all seem like they were made by the same drugged out vajayjay (or test tube maker, whatever they're calling it these days).

[lockerogue]

Hm, I wonder what Dani is going to be doing in Vegas?

stripping, hooking, and gambling seem out of the question.

Who's in Vegas for her to get?

Exactly what she doing in the current New Mutants arc.

[lockerogue]

Irma fits the other names. I don't think they're particularly pretty names, but they all seem like they were made by the same drugged out vajayjay (or test tube maker, is what they call it these days).

I will agree that Esme is also a messed ass name.

[quillero]

This looks great. After reading the interview posted yesterday it seems to me that Fraction's been taking care of Brubaker's plots and now with Nation X he'll get his chance to tell the stories he really wants to tell, of course making the book better.


...and sort of the last of the dangling Ed Brubaker subplots.

Irma is an old lady name. It fits the couscous perfectly.

[Aljira]

I agree Irma is an ugly I name but I think Fraction came up with the ugliest i name he could, as to explain why she would change her name to Mindee. Mindee is to perfect of a name, course it had to be fack, duh!:tongue:

oddly enough, i agree.

it's actually a relief to call Mindee - Irma.


long live SPICE

[Samuraixsithlord]

Oh goodie, i can't wait to see X-23 mop the floor with Daken. That shall be awesome, who knows maybe she'll kill him but i know that won't happen. counting the days until Daken is taken care of once and for good.

If She doesn't get the job done, i'm sure Skaar will.

[Faded]

I will agree that Esme is also a messed ass name.

Yeah, I'm not fond of Mindee either.

Irma is at least ugly chic.

[darknessatnoon]

Yeah, I'm not fond of Mindee either.

Irma is at least ugly chic.

Irma goes better with Remy than "Mindee" did.

[Justin K.]

It's cute that Psylocke and Mystique have the same costumes...
Hope to see some more Mystique though...

[Faded]

Irma goes better with Remy than "Mindee" did.

Irmy shipper here, yall!

[darknessatnoon]

Irmy shipper here, yall!

Can't we just call them "Grimy?"

[Daniel Mengsk]

Can we all agree that Irma is a name suited for old women and not for young cuckoos.

[Nevets F]

Irma is an awful name.

The issue looks good though.

[darknessatnoon]

You guys don't understand anything. An old lady name on a hot piece of ass increases the hotness, which is why Ben Grimm's Sweet Aunt Petunia is the most desired woman in the MU.

I also love hot guys with old man names.

[Monty_Cristo]

You guys don't understand anything. An old lady name on a hot piece of ass increases the hotness, which is why Ben Grimm's Sweet Aunt Petunia is the most desired woman in the MU.

I also love hot guys with old man names.

like Ebeneezer?

[Cicero]

Irma fits the other names. I don't think they're particularly pretty names, but they all seem like they were made by the same drugged out vajayjay (or test tube maker, whatever they're calling it these days).

Unlike the other Cuckoo names, though - including Mindee - it doesn't end in 'e'. I agree that some form of Isabelle would have been a better choice. (Isobele?)

[Prodigy55]

Whatever, I'm going to refer to them as the SPICE girls anyways now. So individual names don't matter.

[darknessatnoon]

like Ebeneezer?

I like George, Henry, Archie, Murray, that sort of thing. When you go into Dickens territory, that's getting a little too old for me. Like, I wouldn't be into Captain Jellybelly, but I would make an exception for Master (Charlie) Bates.

[coveredinbees]

Screaming Mindee is far more attractive than Irma. George isn't old.

[Firebaton]

I thought it was funny in a good way. Looks promising.
I do like the Irma name for Mindee though. It does seem like a first name a girl would not want to use, so she goes by Mindee. I hope the Warsong stuff gets changed as easily.
YAY to Dani being used, and hopefully effectively.

I have an old person's first and middle name

[Faded]

Can we all agree that Irma is a name suited for old women and not for young cuckoos.

They sound like perfect names for hairy Swedish girls.

Whatever, I'm going to refer to them as the SPICE girls anyways now. So individual names don't matter.

You're a good man.

SLAM IT TO THE LEFT.

Screaming Mindee is far more attractive than Irma. George isn't old.

The only sexy Mindy:


http://z.hubpages.com/u/18179_f260.jpg

[coveredinbees]

The only sexy Mindy:
http://z.hubpages.com/u/18179_f260.jpg
I want to say Facts of Life?

[jester1436]

I want some Faded/Mindy Cohn slashfic now.

I like Irma. It makes SPICE and it's close to Emma.

[XaviersMisprint]

I like Irma. Is it bad that I actually really like Uncanny as long as Dodson is around?

[Faded]

I want to say Facts of Life?

You betcha!

I want some Faded/Mindy Cohn slashfic now.

I like Irma. It makes SPICE and it's close to Emma.

The slashfic writes itself.

I'm the new girl in town.

She's my roommate.

She grabs her electric toothbrush from the night stand, before realizing her mistake. Our eyes meet...

[Prodigy55]

omgomgomg FACTS OF LIFE, I love you 1000000x more!

[Robbiebob_16]

Irma???!!:biggrin: Fraction this is why I sometimes love you.

[MarvelGirlBoy]

I wish to piss on your parade.

SPICE is dead.

We now have PIC or CMP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardiomyopathy).

[Faded]

omgomgomg FACTS OF LIFE, I love you 1000000x more!

Wasn't it the greatest???!

I hate the last season though, it was barely recognizable without the lovable Mrs. Garrett!

[psycwave]

Domino can GTFO. Its a catsuit, that just happens to resemble a wetsuit.

Bitch.

[coveredinbees]

Domino can GTFO. Its a catsuit, that just happens to resemble a wetsuit.

Bitch.
It's not her fault. It's the Obsessive–compulsive disorder. Have a heart psychwave.

[worstblogever]

looks alright actually,

lol @ Mindee retcon

Irma!!!!

That Means "S.P.I.C.E" has finally been completed!!!!

Bless editorial for this one. They've finally mended what Austen f'ed up.

Well, one part of it. There's still the Draco, etc., etc.

[worstblogever]

The only sexy Mindy:


http://z.hubpages.com/u/18179_f260.jpg

Hey, if you take the good, and take the bad...

[coveredinbees]

Bless editorial for this one. They've finally mended what Austen f'ed up.

Well, one part of it. There's still the Draco, etc., etc.
That's the one with the church scandal plan right?

[worstblogever]

That's the one with the church scandal plan right?

Oh no... that's the first etc. "The Draco" was Kurt's pappy's a demon mutant who bagged Mystique.

[coveredinbees]

Oh no... that's the first etc. "The Draco" was Kurt's pappy's a demon mutant who bagged Mystique.
I need to catch up. I've only read She Lies with Angels and his X-Men run.

[Hakael]

I need to catch up. I've only read She Lies with Angels and his X-Men run.

Let me be the first to apologize then, I'm sorry you had to read that stuff.

[Drey]

Let me be the first to apologize then, I'm sorry you had to read that stuff.

I am also sorry. By that time I stopped reading. I couldn't take it anymore.

[fortyseven]

Ahhh! This looks really good!!! I'm excited for Betsy-time!!!

And Fraction is the man for fixing "Mindee". Irma is like the perfect name to go with the others: Sophie, Pheobe, Irma, Celeste, Esme. It's like perfect. And it makes sense that she would want to use a different name... if Fraction said her name was Isabelle or something, then there wouldn't make sense that she would use the name "Mindee". Mindee sooo doesn't fit with the other names.

[DeniseXfrost]

Spice Yesssssssssssssssss!

[Prodigy55]

I like how blunt that retcon was.

[fortyseven]

I like how blunt that retcon was.

It was the most usefull Fraption so far. :biggrin:

[psycwave]

BETSSSSSY!!!!!!!!!!
"Because I've been swimming."
<3<3<3<3<3<3
All is forgiven Fraction!
<3

[Goshin]

i actually stopped reading uncanny the second issue of the draco as nightcrawler's daddy saga i couldnt take it anymore. i didnt pick up the book again until claremont and alan davis came back.


and doctor strange himself once examined nightcrawler and said he was just a normal human that looked like a demon!!!!!!:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:



FUCK YOU AUSTEN!!!

[KrullWall]

I hope Dani is gathering the depowered mutants and making them do something awesome. I dont know why I wish this but I do. BUT NOT like the new warriors

[Faded]

THIS may actually be my favorite Betsy scene in forever.

Despite the horrible yellow face.

Actually, this might be one of my favorite Domino appearances, behind the Deadpool/Elixir/Vanisher exchange in the Messiah War Prologue.

Despite, the horrible dalmatian face.

i actually stopped reading uncanny the second issue of the draco as nightcrawler's daddy saga i couldnt take it anymore. i didnt pick up the book again until claremont and alan davis came back.


and doctor strange himself once examined nightcrawler and said he was just a normal human that looked like a demon!!!!!!:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:



FUCK YOU AUSTEN!!!

If Doctor Strange told that blue motherfucker he was normal, then you know he had no credibility to speak on the matter.

[cgar]

Domino needs to STFU...Damn jealous hag

And telepathy and telekinesis. I heart Fraction right now.
The preview is better then I expected

[Goshin]

THIS may actually be my favorite Betsy scene in forever.

Despite the horrible yellow face.

Actually, this might be one of my favorite Domino appearances, behind the Deadpool/Elixir/Vanisher exchange in the Messiah War Prologue.

Despite, the horrible dalmatian face.



If Doctor Strange told that blue motherfucker he was normal, then you know he had no credibility to speak on the matter.


well he knew of the x-men and mutants, he meant he was a normal human mutant chuck austen never read an x-men comic older then 2001 before he started his run

[Daniel Mengsk]

They sound like perfect names for hairy Swedish girls.



Faded, you're thinking of other types of European girls - Swedish girls are not hairy. ;)

I*promise*thee; Swedish girls (over the legal age) are very good looking.

A Swedish girl has to be hella hot to get away with the name Irma.

Then again.....the Cuckoos are kinda hot....

[Faded]

Faded, you're thinking of other types of European girls - Swedish girls are not hairy. ;)

I*promise*thee; Swedish girls (over the legal age) are very good looking.

A Swedish girl has to be hella hot to get away with the name Irma.

Then again.....the Cuckoos are kinda hot....

Oh I'm not associating hairiness with the Swedish (I don't think they're even Swedish, their mother is from Boston but I don't like to reference that), its just that I imagine the Stepford Cuckoos to be hairy Swedish girls IRL, if there were such a thing.

[Anna]

Irma!!!!

That Means "S.P.I.C.E" has finally been completed!!!! Good things come to those who wait.

Did I just see a Domino and Psylocke rivalry seed? Dom doesn't know who she's foolin' with





The only sexy Mindy:


http://z.hubpages.com/u/18179_f260.jpg[/QUOTE]

Wasn't it the greatest???!

I hate the last season though, it was barely recognizable without the lovable Mrs. Garrett!

Have any of you seen The Help? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0364816/

[WolfsbaneFan]

I wante it to be Outlaw :( The outfit looke more Outlaw esque to me

[Gaveedra 6]

I wante it to be Outlaw :( The outfit looke more Outlaw esque to me

I was hoping it was Outlaw too! She pops up everywhere but never does anything! What's her power anyway?

[Shyft]

the writing seems more bearable, but those little character summary boxes are still really annoying.

[Daniel Mengsk]

OMG, Faded......people are actually allowed to call you Irma? lol :biggrin:
You rock.

the writing seems more bearable, but those little character summary boxes are still really annoying.

What's wrong with the fraptions, I quite like them myself.

[Pro]

Actually kind of looks interesting.

[timbox]

I appreciate being able to enjoy the expression on a character's face.
We've come so far.

This Domino needs to hang out with Surge.

I hope Psylocke sees a lot of action; it seems like Fraction is going to put her to work.

[Supercoolshay]

I was hoping it was Outlaw too! She pops up everywhere but never does anything! What's her power anyway?

outlaw has enhanced strength, agility and durability; as well as accelerated healing. She has a very standard power set.

But... she is a Merc with a lasso and a gun.

Thus making her Awesome.

And bull crap about her not doing anything. She's only popped up in like six story arcs across the Marvel U and only one of them being X-men related. The rest being Deadpool related stuff.

And the only time I did not see her doing something was in the recent suicide kings story line. She just bitched about wade trashing her apartment. But all other times she's killing or screwing something/one.

[X-Man#4]

I say this without the slightest hint of hyperbole........Matt Fraction is single-handedly revolutinizing the comic book medium:biggrin: . Tell me the last time a crossover was this good?? I can only hope that it maintains its momentum. This is what a good story with a good writer looks like.

[peopleofpaper]

I'm gagging at everyone's new found love and happiness

[MarvelGirlBoy]

I'm gagging at everyone's new found love and happiness

I like you.

[Deus ex Chris]

I say this without the slightest hint of hyperbole........Matt Fraction is single-handedly revolutinizing the comic book medium:biggrin: . Tell me the last time a crossover was this good?? I can only hope that it maintains its momentum. This is what a good story with a good writer looks like.
Is it? I hadn't noticed because the first half of this arc put me to sleep. This preview does look interesting, except for the contrived fight scene that was poorly set up last issue.

[pharoahe22]

Agreed. And I also can't wait for Wolverine to enter this crossover. Looks like it may finally happen in this issue or the next. :cool:

Yeah I can't wait for Wolverine to show up either...but I seriously don't think X-23 is going to mop the floor with Daken...if anything, in their first fight in Dark Avengers, it'll be a draw or Daken is going to get the win...I'm almost positive that the fight that we saw in Exodus was their second fight...look how they just go right after each other...

[Jack Flash]

i've always enjoyed Fraction's run and don't appreciate all of you "Johnny come latelies"

[timbox]

i've always enjoyed Fraction's run and don't appreciate all of you "Johnny come latelies"

Oh Jed, we've all enjoyed Fraction's run.

[Jack Flash]

Oh Jed, we've all enjoyed Fraction's run.

timbox, your multiple personalities don't count.

[X-Man#4]

Is it? I hadn't noticed because the first half of this arc put me to sleep. This preview does look interesting, except for the contrived fight scene that was poorly set up last issue.

I'd have to disagree. Things have moved at a quick pace, while simulataneously developing the characters. And the upcoming conflict looks tremendous!

May I ask, did you read any of the other recent X-Crossovers that have been out??

[jarrod]

Love Betsy's wetsuit. It rox cox.

[Goshin]

Love Betsy's wetsuit. It rox cox.


she could rock mine anyday

[Deus ex Chris]

I'd have to disagree. Things have moved at a quick pace, while simulataneously developing the characters. And the upcoming conflict looks tremendous!
Disagree all you like. One man's contrived and uninteresting is another man's zomgamazing!!!! That's fine with me.

May I ask, did you read any of the other recent X-Crossovers that have been out??
Yes, I read it and found it to be a waste of my time and money, but X-23 isn't to blame. Honestly, I really don't even blame Kyle and Yost, since X-Force is a book where things happen and Cable is not. Duane Swhatshisname's Cable always reads like a preview to an issue rather than an entire issue. It always lacks content, which was my problem with Messiah War.

[X-Man#4]

Disagree all you like. One man's contrived and uninteresting is another man's zomgamazing!!!! That's fine with me.

Yes, I read it and found it to be a waste of my time and money, but X-23 isn't to blame. Honestly, I really don't even blame Kyle and Yost, since X-Force is a book where things happen and Cable is not. Duane Swhatshisname's Cable always reads like a preview to an issue rather than an entire issue. It always lacks content, which was my problem with Messiah War.

Of course, you are entitled to your opinion and I value your input.

I am troubled by your seeming willness to absolve C&C of any of the "blame" for the MW fiasco. They are equally responsible for what you read (perhaps even more so since I think that they wrote both the opening one-shot and the concluding issue). This seems to be a double-standard, but to each his own. I hope that you give this new, very exciting crossover a chance as Fraction hs proven to not only be a very adept writer, but also a trsutworthy one since to my knowledge, he has never lied about his work.

PS> I never blamed X23 for MW either!! After all, she's merely a pawn in a two man game.:frown:

[Deus ex Chris]

Of course, you are entitled to your opinion and I value your input.

I am troubled by your seeming willness to absolve C&C of any of the "blame" for the MW fiasco. They are equally responsible for what you read (perhaps even more so since I think that they wrote both the opening one-shot and the concluding issue). This seems to be a double-standard, but to each his own. I hope that you give this new, very exciting crossover a chance as Fraction hs proven to not only be a very adept writer, but also a trsutworthy one since to my knowledge, he has never lied about his work.

PS> I never blamed X23 for MW either!! After all, she's merely a pawn in a two man game.:frown:
There is no double standard. Kyle and Yost generally write stories that leave me satisfied. Duane generally does not. Once he was added to the mix, X-Force stopped satisfying. We are one issue out of Messiah War, and X-Force is once again a satisfying read.

And I'm still reading Uncanny because I want to like Fraction's run, but I've only liked one issue out of a dozen.

[timbox]

Of course, you are entitled to your opinion and I value your input.

I am troubled by your seeming willness to absolve C&C of any of the "blame" for the MW fiasco. They are equally responsible for what you read (perhaps even more so since I think that they wrote both the opening one-shot and the concluding issue). This seems to be a double-standard, but to each his own. I hope that you give this new, very exciting crossover a chance as Fraction hs proven to not only be a very adept writer, but also a trsutworthy one since to my knowledge, he has never lied about his work.

PS> I never blamed X23 for MW either!! After all, she's merely a pawn in a two man game.:frown:

Your writer bashing and obsessive baiting are as transparent as your opinions and 'well meaning' posts. What do other X-crossovers have to do with someone's opinion on Fraction's work?

Desperation wears thin. You are slipping.

[AcesX1X]

what the..?

YOU PEOPLE BETTER SHUT UP ABOUT DOMINO RIGHT NOW!

[Swashbuckler]

OOOOO, I love this preview. The girls look gret all standing in a line there, and I love the way Domino is being presented these days. I'm curious as to what Cyclops' ultimate plan is, and I'm wondering where all the boy X-Men are. Nightcrawler anyone? Where is my swashbuckling hero????

[Talisman]

That would be the best thing ever, if Cyke didn't totally come off as all pedo there talking to Mindee, and Betts didn't go swimming.

[timbox]

what the..?

YOU PEOPLE BETTER SHUT UP ABOUT DOMINO RIGHT NOW!

I would, in a word, kill someone if they said anything bad about Domino.

Do not reply to this post.

[Talisman]

I'd have to disagree. Things have moved at a quick pace, while simulataneously developing the characters. And the upcoming conflict looks tremendous!

May I ask, did you read any of the other recent X-Crossovers that have been out??
Which characters have been developed? Any development done thus far has been highly superficial at best.

[Azure]

Which characters have been developed? Any development done thus far has been highly superficial at best.

He's written the definitive version of Irma Cuckoo! Now please everyone, this is MY THREAD, and I don't want people to talk about Messiah War in it. Talk about Uncanny X-Men! Even if you hate it.

[X-Man#4]

Your writer bashing and obsessive baiting are as transparent as your opinions and 'well meaning' posts. What do other X-crossovers have to do with someone's opinion on Fraction's work?

Desperation wears thin. You are slipping.

Since you insist on addressing me, I have no choice but to respond. Please highlight where I bashed another writer or baited anyone...I merely asked for another poster's opinion. And other X-Crossover's serve as a comparison point against the current crossover. The poster in question stated that he didn't enjoy the first half of the crossover ...I asked if he enjoyed other receent crossovers simply because if he did enjoy them, I wondered what about them he enjoyed and how Utopia could therefore be improved in his opinion. Your own "obsession" with my interest in comics is slightly disconcerting. I hope you are enjoying your day and that you reread both my posts and your own posts prior to hitting the "submit" button from now. It would no doubt save you some embarrassment in the future.

[Novaya Havoc]

Bring it on, you nancy-boy.

[jarrod]

what the..?

YOU PEOPLE BETTER SHUT UP ABOUT DOMINO RIGHT NOW!
Dom stepped in it. She should know better than to mess with Our Lady Gloriana, she's not that lucky.

*Psquadron Salute*

[Talisman]

Bring it on, you nancy-boy.
I love it when you use homophobic responses.

[Deus ex Chris]

Dom stepped in it. She should know better than to mess with Our Lady Gloriana, she's not that lucky.

*Psquadron Salute*
Please. Domino can handle the one-woman minstrel show.

[Goshin]

He's written the definitive version of Irma Cuckoo! Now please everyone, this is MY THREAD, and I don't want people to talk about Messiah War in it. Talk about Uncanny X-Men! Even if you hate it.


YAY FOR MESSIAH WAR!!!!


should have crossed over into uncanny x-men


:redface: :tongue:

[prince_nightcrawler]

Psylocke looks amazing!! :smile:

[Novaya Havoc]

I love it when you use homophobic responses.
LOL ♥
I was just quoting Hawkeye in this sensational preview. Matt Fraction sure knows how to expand a reader's vocabulary!

[jarrod]

Please. Domino can handle the one-woman minstrel show.
She could, but Wakanda's pretty far away.

[Deus ex Chris]

She could, but Wakanda's pretty far away.

Well, it's a good thing the Yellow Peril is right in front of her.

[Talisman]

LOL ♥
I was just quoting Hawkeye in this sensational preview. Matt Fraction sure knows how to expand a reader's vocabulary!
Indeed. I've extended my vocabulary a whole bunch thanks to Fraction comics.

[jarrod]

Well, it's a good thing the Yellow Peril is right in front of her.
Oh. I figured your race baiting referred to Mavel's very own freshly neutered Michelle Obama.

And it's Yellow Fever, thank you.

[Novaya Havoc]

Indeed. I've extended my vocabulary a whole bunch thanks to Fraction comics.

Do people even use "Nancy-Boy" as an insult any more?

This book is so retro. I can practically taste the hipster flavor oozing off the pages, and it tastes like lentil soup and tofu squares.

[AcesX1X]

psylocke looks better when she has clothes on.

[X-Man#4]

Indeed. I've extended my vocabulary a whole bunch thanks to Fraction comics.

While Fraction's lexicon is impressive, I think it's his character development, and his ability to portray all characters fairly (rather than some as "Mary Sues") taht really set him and his work apart. He has become the gold standard that all other X-writers need to measure themselves against!

[Novaya Havoc]

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wut.

[Talisman]

While Fraction's lexicon is impressive, I think it's his character development, and his ability to portray all characters fairly (rather than some as "Mary Sues") taht really set him and his work apart. He has become the gold standard that all other X-writers need to measure themselves against!

You're a tool. I don't think you believe this yourself, unless you're Matt Fraction, which I wouldn't doubt at this point.

[X-Man#4]

You're a tool. I don't think you believe this yourself, unless you're Matt Fraction, which I wouldn't doubt at this point.

Hold up....am I to understand that you don't enjoy Fraction's work? Then why be on a thread, that by and large, praises Fraction's issues? And no, I am not Fraction, just one of the many who truly enjoys his work. He is indeed a master of his craft!

[streator]

i liked this preview. cyclops having a plan. dodson's art looks nice.

[Deus ex Chris]

Oh. I figured your race baiting referred to Mavel's very own freshly neutered Michelle Obama.

And it's Yellow Fever, thank you.
It's not race-baiting to be offended by a faux minority clad in negatvie stereotypes, but at least her ass isn't hanging out.
While Fraction's lexicon is impressive, I think it's his character development, and his ability to portray all characters fairly (rather than some as "Mary Sues") taht really set him and his work apart. He has become the gold standard that all other X-writers need to measure themselves against!
The things you say make me question your sincerity. This is so winkwinknudgenudge.

[Talisman]

Hold up....am I to understand that you don't enjoy Fraction's work? Then why be on a thread, that by and large, praises Fraction's issues? And no, I am not Fraction, just one of the many who truly enjoys his work. He is indeed a master of his craft!
I'm here because I've been collecting Uncanny X-Men since I was 4 and now I have Fraction shitting on one of my favorite comics. I'm sure you're just an avid fan, Mr. Fraction. Stick to what you're good at. Writing Tony Stark.

[jarrod]

It's not race-baiting to be offended by a faux minority clad in negatvie stereotypes, but at least her ass isn't hanging out.
This is rich considering Dom's the one in (incomplete) black face.

[Talisman]

This is rich considering Dom's the one in (incomplete) black face.

STFU about Dom's skin disease. It's not her fault her vitiligo left that one spot black.

[X-Man#4]

I'm here because I've been collecting Uncanny X-Men since I was 4 and now I have Fraction shitting on one of my favorite comics. I'm sure you're just an avid fan, Mr. Fraction. Stick to what you're good at. Writing Tony Stark.

While I am NOT Matt Fration, I would have to argue that what he is writing "right now" in Uncanny is unadulterated genius! The way he interweaves such a broad band of characters, while simultaneously moving the plot forward in an intertesting direction, is quite simply, breathtaking. Perhaps more importantly, his unwillingness to favor one character at the expense of other characters, is something commendable and a quality that all writers in every medium should take note of. I hope you continue to collect Uncanny as I think that time will show that this is truly the Golden Age of this book!

[AcesX1X]

This is rich considering Dom's the one in (incomplete) black face.

do not cross this line, jarrod.

[timbox]

While I am NOT Matt Fration, I would have to argue that what he is writing "right now" in Uncanny is unadulterated genius! The way he interweaves such a broad band of characters, while simultaneously moving the plot forward in an intertesting direction, is quite simply, breathtaking. Perhaps more importantly, his unwillingness to favor one character at the expense of other characters, is something commendable and a quality that all writers in every medium should take note of. I hope you continue to collect Uncanny as I think that time will show that this is truly the Golden Age of this book!

winkwinknudgenudge

I get it now.

While I am NOT Christopher O, I would have to argue that what he is writing "right now" in this thread is unadulterated genius!

[Deus ex Chris]

This is rich considering Dom's the one in (incomplete) black face.

She has a black spot over her eye. It's not like she's a white woman thrown into an Asian body and equipped with a slew of stereotypes and the ever-present female objectification. Psylocke was a good character once. Now, she's a convoluted, vaudevillian mess, but that's neither here nor there.

[Talisman]

While I am NOT Matt Fration, I would have to argue that what he is writing "right now" in Uncanny is unadulterated genius! The way he interweaves such a broad band of characters, while simultaneously moving the plot forward in an intertesting direction, is quite simply, breathtaking. Perhaps more importantly, his unwillingness to favor one character at the expense of other characters, is something commendable and a quality that all writers in every medium should take note of. I hope you continue to collect Uncanny as I think that time will show that this is truly the Golden Age of this book!
Your mother dropped you on the head often as a child, didn't she?

[timbox]

Guys, Domino is black, by the way. Thank you. She is one of my very favorites.

[X-Man#4]

winkwinknudgenudge

I get it now.

While I am NOT Christopher O, I would have to argue that what he is writing "right now" in this thread is unadulterated genius!

Your flattery knows no bounds. I would be remiss if I didn't say that having my prose compared to the poetry that Fraction puts into Uncanny is praise I dno't deserve; however, I am glad you chosen to liken my posts to Fraction, as there are a few writers I would HATE to be compared to! Thanks again Timbox!

[Talisman]

Your flattery knows no bounds. I would be remiss if I didn't say that having my prose compared to the poetry that Fraction puts into Uncanny is praise I dno't deserve; however, I am glad you chosen to liken my posts to Fraction, as there are a few writers I would HATE to be compared to! Thanks again Timbox!
LOLOLOL. He's about as poetic as those who write on bathroom stalls.

[jarrod]

do not cross this line, jarrod.
lol.

Dom should show deference when addressing X-23's role model.


She has a black spot over her eye. It's not like she's a white woman thrown into an Asian body and equipped with a slew of stereotypes and the ever-present sexual objectification.
Betsy can't help it that Spiral/Dazzler are racist misogynists. As usual though, you blame the victim.

[X-Man#4]

Your mother dropped you on the head often as a child, didn't she?

Your childish insult aside, what exactly about my post did you disagree with? It seems nonsensical to me for someone to come onto a thread designed to talk about how improved the book is, or how the book could be improved, only to offer disparaging remarks. Surely, at the very least, you have some construtctive criticism to offer.

[Deus ex Chris]

There are no victims, Jarrod--only doms and subs.

[jarrod]

Psylocke was a good character once. Now, she's a convoluted, vaudevillian mess, but that's neither here nor there.
Beats being a housewife.

Besides, "convoluted, vaudevillian mess" sounds like a great character. Or a Storm costume.

[Talisman]

Your childish insult aside, what exactly about my post did you disagree with? It seems nonsensical to me for someone to come onto a thread designed to talk about how improved the book is, or how the book could be improved, only to offer disparaging remarks. Surely, at the very least, you have some construtctive criticism to offer.
I disagreed with the entirety of your post. The book hasn't improved. Wait, I digress. It has improved a bit. The X-Club isn't an ongoing nuisance any longer and Beast is leaving soon.

If you want some constructive criticism, how's this...GET OFF THE BOOK, NOW. Stop with the sex scenes. Develop other characters BESIDES EMMA, SCOTT, AND HANK. That's what Astonishing is for. Enough of the rotating cast. For someone who wrote a truly entertaining book in Immortal Iron Fist, your Uncanny is sorely lacking. Stop bringing characters in just to be wallpaper. Stop writing characters so OOC.

[Deus ex Chris]

Beats being a housewife.

Besides, "convoluted, vaudevillian mess" sounds like a great character. Or a Storm costume.No arguments here.

[psycwave]

Domino's incomplete blackface offends me

Domino is racist.

[Talisman]

Domino's incomplete blackface offends me.

Her name change from Beatrix to Neena is what really offends me.

[Dave13]

Gooo Talisman you make a Good point and your insults are trully beatifull

[jarrod]

There are no victims, Jarrod--only doms and subs.
Are you my conscience? If so, you're late.


No arguments here.
*faggot embrace*


Domino is rasict.
Yes! Psquadron backup has arrived! <3 <3

[psycwave]

Her name change from Beatrix to Neena is what really offends me.

She is ashamed of her culture.


Yes! Psquadron backup has arrived! <3 <3

<3<3<3<3

[Deus ex Chris]

Her name change from Beatrix to Neena is what really offends me.
I am also offended by this change.

Beatrix>>>>>>Neena


Are you my conscience? If so, you're late.



*faggot embrace*
I've missed our relationship.

[X-Man#4]

I disagreed with the entirety of your post. The book hasn't improved. Wait, I digress. It has improved a bit. The X-Club isn't an ongoing nuisance any longer and Beast is leaving soon.

If you want some constructive criticism, how's this...GET OFF THE BOOK, NOW. Stop with the sex scenes. Develop other characters BESIDES EMMA, SCOTT, AND HANK. That's what Astonishing is for. Enough of the rotating cast. For someone who wrote a truly entertaining book in Immortal Iron Fist, your Uncanny is sorely lacking. Stop bringing characters in just to be wallpaper. Stop writing characters so OOC.

You realize the exact same criticism could be directed at certain other writers right? His cutting edge take on the X-Men, and his ability to take X-Men stories and make them relevant (Prop 8 anyone) is something amazing to behold. You are entitled to your opinoin of course, but count me as one of the many who hope that the flagship book of the X-Men franchise is entrusted to Fraction's very capable hands for a long, long time. I only hope that other writers recognize the error of their ways and attempt to mimic Fraction's brilliance!

[Talisman]

She is ashamed of her culture.
While I do love the name, Neena, I just ADORE the name Beatrix. Maybe it's my Quintin Tarintino obsession.

[Deus ex Chris]

You realize the exact same criticism could be directed at certain other writers right? His cutting edge take on the X-Men, and his ability to take X-Men stories and make them relevant (Prop 8 anyone) is something amazing to behold. You are entitled to your opinoin of course, but count me as one of the many who hope that the flagship book of the X-Men franchise is entrusted to Fraction's very capable hands for a long, long time. I only hope that other writers recognize the error of their ways and attempt to mimic Fraction's brilliance!

You've gone too far with it. Pull back some, or people are going to see right through the deception-- even our less than perceptive members.

[AcesX1X]

both of you stop being foolish.

beatrice is her first name. neena is her preferred name.

[Talisman]

You realize the exact same criticism could be directed at certain other writers right? His cutting edge take on the X-Men, and his ability to take X-Men stories and make them relevant (Prop 8 anyone) is something amazing to behold. You are entitled to your opinoin of course, but count me as one of the many who hope that the flagship book of the X-Men franchise is entrusted to Fraction's very capable hands for a long, long time. I only hope that other writers recognize the error of their ways and attempt to mimic Fraction's brilliance!
Maybe your Reggie Hudlin?

[jarrod]

Beatrice is hotter. I approve.

[X-Man#4]

You've gone too far with it. Pull back some, or people are going to see right through the deception-- even our less than perceptive members.

Whatever do you mean? I've heard many on here complain that Whdeon favored Kitty Pryde far too much during his seminal Astonishing run. And I truly enjoy Fraction's work. I hope that due to the sheer quality of his product, he is not taken off of Uncanny and forced onto something like New Avengers. This is truly the Golden Age of Uncanny. We are witnessing history in the making!

[peopleofpaper]

You realize the exact same criticism could be directed at certain other writers right? His cutting edge take on the X-Men, and his ability to take X-Men stories and make them relevant (Prop 8 anyone) is something amazing to behold. You are entitled to your opinoin of course, but count me as one of the many who hope that the flagship book of the X-Men franchise is entrusted to Fraction's very capable hands for a long, long time. I only hope that other writers recognize the error of their ways and attempt to mimic Fraction's brilliance!

You are not doing a good job trolling as a Fraction superfan, for now there are MANY Fraction superfans due to his Morrison retcon! It's like the last year never happened. SPICE~ slam your body down and ziggazehahhhhhh

[X-Man#4]

Maybe your Reggie Hudlin?

I'm sorry...I don't know who that is?

[AcesX1X]

You are not doing a good job trolling as a Fraction superfan, for now there are MANY Fraction superfans due to his Morrison retcon! It's like the last year never happened. SPICE~ slam your body down and ziggazehahhhhhh

i would not go that far, peopleofpaper. there are several holes in my uncanny reading list this year thanks to unnecessary panel-time devoted to beast. there are whole issues i wasn't even able to read!

[Personamanx]

Im excited about this issue. I have enjoyed Fraction more or less during his run, but This issue actually looks great.

[Talisman]

Whatever do you mean? I've heard many on here complain that Whdeon favored Kitty Pryde far too much during his seminal Astonishing run. And I truly enjoy Fraction's work. I hope that due to the sheer quality of his product, he is not taken off of Uncanny and forced onto something like New Avengers. This is truly the Golden Age of Uncanny. We are witnessing history in the making!
http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml98/98062w.jpg

[X-Man#4]

You are not doing a good job trolling as a Fraction superfan, for now there are MANY Fraction superfans due to his Morrison retcon! It's like the last year never happened. SPICE~ slam your body down and ziggazehahhhhhh

I am merely in awe of Fraction's work. Honestly, if he had the time and patience to write each and every X-book on shelves today, I wouldn't be opposed to that set up. He is revolutionizing the genre as we know it.

[peopleofpaper]

i would not go that far, peopleofpaper. there are several holes in my uncanny reading list this year thanks to unnecessary panel-time devoted to beast. there are whole issues i wasn't even able to read!

I had to take three breaks reading the science club issue so I could take a nap

[Talisman]

I'm sorry...I don't know who that is?

He's your sock-puppet twin.

[ExodusCloak]

To avoid derailing this thread anymore, I must say I really, really like the preview. Fractions Utopia stuff may not be perfect but it's stronger then last decade of Uncanny IMO which has been a mess.

[frog]

Fraction's love of Beast is his saving grace. He may not know how to write him, but he knows a good character when he sees one!

[X-Man#4]

He's your sock-puppet twin.

Look talisman, I am sorry that you are disenchanted with Fraction's work. You are one of the few I think. Time will show that we are living in remarkable timess with respect to Fraction's run on Uncanny. Indeed, if I may be so behold, I imagine that in the future there will be som type of award honoring Fraction's seminal work on this book and it will be an award to which all other writers will aspire. He has already become a legend in his own time and has set the standard that other writers dare not even dream of reaching. They are, unfortunately though no fault of their own, standing in the shadow of his brilliance.

[timbox]

Fraction is a Mary Sue who can do no wrong.

[Talisman]

Look talisman, I am sorry that you are disenchanted with Fraction's work. You are one of the few I think. Time will show that we are living in remarkable timess with respect to Fraction's run on Uncanny. Indeed, if I may be so behold, I imagine that in the future there will be som type of award honoring Fraction's seminal work on this book and it will be an award to which all other writers will aspire. He has already become a legend in his own time and has set the standard that other writers dare not even dream of reaching. They are, unfortunately though no fault of their own, standing in the shadow of his brilliance.
I give him the three sheet award, already. His piece of crap Uncanny takes at least 3 sheets of double ply just to clean up.

[frog]

Fraction is a Mary Sue who can do no wrong.

Ack! Time to close the thread.

[Swashbuckler]

Look talisman, I am sorry that you are disenchanted with Fraction's work. You are one of the few I think. Time will show that we are living in remarkable timess with respect to Fraction's run on Uncanny. Indeed, if I may be so behold, I imagine that in the future there will be som type of award honoring Fraction's seminal work on this book and it will be an award to which all other writers will aspire. He has already become a legend in his own time and has set the standard that other writers dare not even dream of reaching. They are, unfortunately though no fault of their own, standing in the shadow of his brilliance.

This is pathetic. Even if you like Fraction's run, which I am half/half over, idolizing him this much and sying every other writer wants to be him is just over zealous and a little creepy.

[timbox]

Domino is racist.

One of my favorite attributes. She hates whitey.

[Azure]

Even I hate Matt Fraction now.

[jarrod]

Fraction's love of Beast is his saving grace. He may not know how to write him, but he knows a good character when he sees one!
True Story: CBR is slowly converting me into a Beast fan.

[X-Man#4]

Fraction is a Mary Sue who can do no wrong.

Better a writer than a character. Just my opinion, of course!

[Dave13]

Is Xman#4 Fraction? or maybe a Family member cause thats the only way i could begin explaining his behaviour?

[rwsmith]

I like Fraction's run okay. Better than Brubaker's IMO, but below Carey's. Miles above Claremont's or Austen's, but also not nearly as awesome as Morrison's.

Just my opinion, but I'm enjoying it for now for what it is. Nothing groundbreaking, but solid for the most part. Having said that, I like most of the core guys that he focuses on (Cyclops, Emma, Beast, Wolverine) and don't mind that they are also in Astonishing because that book hardly ever comes out anyway. Wouldn't mind seeing more Colossus, Cannonball or even Dazzler, but I do feel like we've gotten a decent amount of them lately. And Northstar is growing on me too.

[AcesX1X]

i am a fan of beast being tortured. i really appreciate matt fraction's efforts on that end.

[jarrod]

Fraction is a Mary Sue who can do no wrong.
That's Warren Ellis/Pete Wisdom.

[X-Man#4]

I like Fraction's run okay. Better than Brubaker's IMO, but below Carey's. Miles above Claremont's or Austen's, but also not nearly as awesome as Morrison's.

Just my opinion, but I'm enjoying it for now for what it is. Nothing groundbreaking, but solid for the most part. Having said that, I like most of the core guys that he focuses on (Cyclops, Emma, Beast, Wolverine) and don't mind that they are also in Astonishing because that book hardly ever comes out anyway. Wouldn't mind seeing more Colossus, Cannonball or even Dazzler, but I do feel like we've gotten a decent amount of them lately. And Northstar is growing on me too.

I too enjoy the characters he focuses on. I'm not loving his Emma/Beast centricity, but where else will you get a writer who not only focuses on Wolverine and Cyclops, but really knows how to handle them!

[rwsmith]

Yeah, his Cyclops is great IMO. His Wolverine...okay. I honestly wouldn't mind seeing less of Logan in this book, as I enjoy seeing him lead X-Force so much. It's nice that I get both, but if I had to choose to make room for other characters to get more face-time I'd opt for less Wolverine in UXM and more badassery from him in X-Force. ;)

[timbox]

I too enjoy the characters he focuses on. I'm not loving his Emma/Beast centricity, but where else will you get a writer who not only focuses on Wolverine and Cyclops, but really knows how to handle them!

I disagree. The reason Fraction is so great is that he is not afraid to sideline super popular characters like Emma, Cyclops, and Beast and really focus on and develop lesser used characters such as Dazzler, Lady Mastermind, and Chimera.

[ExodusCloak]

I like Fraction's run okay. Better than Brubaker's IMO, but below Carey's. Miles above Claremont's or Austen's, but also not nearly as awesome as Morrison's.

I'm kind of the same. I prefer Fraction over Brubaker, I liked Carey's stuff but I wish he got a chance to write the A-listers cause I probably would like that too. Fractions stuff is definitely miles about Claremont and Austen. And I wish Grant Morrisons would come back to write Emma again.

[rwsmith]

I wish they'd cancel Legacy and make UXM twice monthly with Fraction and Carey both co-writing (hey, it works for X-Force). Artists could be Dodson, McKone and maybe someone like Raney (I think it would take at least three to keep it coming out 24 times per year).

[X-Man#4]

Yeah, his Cyclops is great IMO. His Wolverine...okay. I honestly wouldn't mind seeing less of Logan in this book, as I enjoy seeing him lead X-Force so much. It's nice that I get both, but if I had to choose to make room for other characters to get more face-time I'd opt for less Wolverine in UXM and more badassery from him in X-Force. ;)

I'd opt for ANY of that in X-Force lol!

[ExodusCloak]

I wish they'd cancel Legacy and make UXM twice monthly with Fraction and Carey both co-writing (hey, it works for X-Force). Artists could be Dodson, McKone and maybe someone like Raney (I think it would take at least three to keep it coming out 24 times per year).

That would be pretty cool, although I kind of like some of Acuna's panels.

[rwsmith]

I'd opt for ANY of that in X-Force lol!

Dude! Did you not read the first arc when he was torturing Purifiers to find Rahne? Or the second where they took on all those Marauder clones? Or even the latest issue where he and Archangel sliced up a bunch of Sapien League guys!?

There's been some badassery from Logan in X-Force already. Now, having said that, there could always be more and I wouldn't complain about it...:smile:

[peopleofpaper]

You guys don't mind his writing style? I get perturbed by the dialog the most. Even in this preview it's really the same repetitive type of language. For lack of a better word, it just seems so dumbed down. Seems very 20th Century Fox. I might have disliked previous story arcs in Uncanny with other writers, but I never discredited the writing as much as this. I'm just curious if everyone else is used to his style or even like it better than previous writers.

[jarrod]

I wish they'd cancel Legacy and make UXM twice monthly with Fraction and Carey both co-writing (hey, it works for X-Force). Artists could be Dodson, McKone and maybe someone like Raney (I think it would take at least three to keep it coming out 24 times per year).
No way, I'm stoked for the new Legacy direction. Rogue, kids and Acuna? AWESOME!

If they want to make Uncanny bi-weekly, then bring on Cornell to co-write with/clean up after Fraction. One talented, british, continuity-wonk is just as good as another.

I'd like to see Coipel/Kirk/Pacheco/Kubert on rotating art duties too.

[X-Man#4]

You guys don't mind his writing style? I get perturbed by the dialog the most. Even in this preview it's really the same repetitive type of language. For lack of a better word, it just seems so dumbed down. Seems very 20th Century Fox. I might have disliked previous story arcs in Uncanny with other writers, but I never discredited the writing as much as this. I'm just curious if everyone else is used to his style or even like it better than previous writers.

I really enjoy his verbiage! Every character has a unique voice, rather than the mindless, zombified voice of stagnant clones.

[ExodusCloak]

You guys don't mind his writing style? I get perturbed by the dialog the most. Even in this preview it's really the same repetitive type of language. For lack of a better word, it just seems so dumbed down. Seems very 20th Century Fox. I might have disliked previous story arcs in Uncanny with other writers, but I never discredited the writing as much as this. I'm just curious if everyone else is used to his style or even like it better than previous writers.

There are things that irk me but I believe his work is superior to the stuff we've had on Uncanny for the last decade and a bit. The previous writers on Uncanny irked me a lot more. Brubaker was a step up from Claremont and Fraction is a step up from Bru. Claremont/Austen etc...was bad. Claremonts dialogue is mostly bad. As for Casey I found him boring.

I am open to Cornell writing an X-Book.

[Talisman]

I really enjoy his verbiage! Every character has a unique voice, rather than the mindless, zombified voice of stagnant clones.
Can you please pass me the blunt. Someone laced it with something.

[Come To Deathstrike]

I really enjoy his verbiage! Every character has a unique voice, rather than the mindless, zombified voice of stagnant clones.

"You're never alone Peter, ever"

[blehbeh]

You guys don't mind his writing style? I get perturbed by the dialog the most. Even in this preview it's really the same repetitive type of language. For lack of a better word, it just seems so dumbed down. Seems very 20th Century Fox. I might have disliked previous story arcs in Uncanny with other writers, but I never discredited the writing as much as this. I'm just curious if everyone else is used to his style or even like it better than previous writers.

That's what it is, basically. He's writing Uncanny like a dumbed down, plot-driven, network TV show that appeals to the masses.

I personally think it's awful, but with the satellite books as good as they are, it's not a huge problem. It would be nice, however, if there was a more compact, character focused team book titled "X-Men" to balance out their mindless X-Army extravaganza. Legacy is an experiment TOO far in the opposite direction...

[FiddleFaddle]

I wante it to be Outlaw :( The outfit looke more Outlaw esque to me

I know!!!:frown:

I was hoping it was Outlaw too! She pops up everywhere but never does anything! What's her power anyway?

Super strenght

I'm gagging at everyone's new found love and happiness

Me too only because of their eventual dissapointment.

[Novaya Havoc]

I really enjoy his verbiage! Every character has a unique voice, rather than the mindless, zombified voice of stagnant clones.

"Hey, I'm Ali. Hey."

[FiddleFaddle]

"Hey, I'm Ali. Hey."

and can you believe he did that twice!?

[X-Man#4]

"Hey, I'm Ali. Hey."

It's realistic and refreshing. Much better than the "Let's all talk the same because we're clones and share skill sets" dialogue that we sometimes get from others.

[Robbiebob_16]

"Hey, I'm Ali. Hey."
I thought that was cute actually! Fraction is starting to grow on me. I like the quirks he gives the characters. But I'm not into the whole threesome subtext he has going on with the Cuckoos. "Whatever you say Mr. Summers"??Besides that, no complaints...

[Deus ex Chris]

To be fair, it's still miles ahead of the dialogue by people like Claremont, Davis, and Lobdell.

[Drey]

"Hey, I'm Ali. Hey."

Ugh, that reminds me of a friend I used to have in middle school. I couldn't stand it when he said "hey" all the time. I guess it was my own fault though for being everybody's friend.

Ok back to the preview...Justin Ponsor colored the issue really nicely. I see the X-men have a thing for red lighting.

[ExodusCloak]

To be fair, it's still miles ahead of the dialogue by people like Claremont, Davis, and Lobdell.

Aye, "What the devil".:biggrin:

[Deus ex Chris]

It's realistic and refreshing. Much better than the "Let's all talk the same because we're clones and share skill sets" dialogue that we sometimes get from others.

Kyle and Yost are very good at distinguishing characters through dialogue. None of the X-Forcers talk alike, and their New X-Men characters certainly had distinct voices. I'd say dialogue is one of their strengths. Well, I think it might be Kyle's strength, since Yost's dialogue--while solid--is a bit weaker on his solo projects.

[ExodusCloak]

Wrong again. Kyle and Yost are very good at distinguishing characters through dialogue. None of the X-Forcers talk alike, and there New X-Men characters certainly had distinct voices. I'd say dialogue is one of their strengths. Well, I think it might be Kyle's strenght, since Yost's dialogue--while solid--is much weaker on his solo projects.,

This is just creepy now, I said the exact same thing about Kyle in a few other threads.

[X-Man#4]

Kyle and Yost are very good at distinguishing characters through dialogue. None of the X-Forcers talk alike, and their New X-Men characters certainly had distinct voices. I'd say dialogue is one of their strengths. Well, I think it might be Kyle's strenght, since Yost's dialogue--while solid--is a bit weaker on his solo projects.

Again, who mentioned C&C?? You're agenda is showing my friend.

[Azure]

Again, who mentioned C&C?? You're agenda is showing my friend.

Which writers were you talking about, in this case?

[MuhollandDriver]

That's what it is, basically. He's writing Uncanny like a dumbed down, plot-driven, network TV show that appeals to the masses.

I personally think it's awful, but with the satellite books as good as they are, it's not a huge problem. It would be nice, however, if there was a more compact, character focused team book titled "X-Men" to balance out their mindless X-Army extravaganza. Legacy is an experiment TOO far in the opposite direction...

Yeah i agree with this. New Mutants and X-Force have kept me in the X-Line. X-Men: Legacy has gotten much more enjoyable due to the Rogue focus. If these three titles keep up the pace, i will be more than content.

i feel bad that Storm and other beloved characters of mine are trapped in Uncanny and Astonishing.

This Utopia arc is admittedly better, in a summer blockbuster event kind of way. Still, i can't wash the taste of past arcs out. My issue likely, i know.

[Deus ex Chris]

This is just creepy now, I said the exact same thing about Kyle in a few other threads.
Nice.
Again, who mentioned C&C?? You're agenda is showing my friend.
Oh, please. I have no agenda. Neither of them even come close to being favorite writers of mine. I do enjoy them but not enough to force them on others. You were the one who alluded to them, and your allusion needed correcting.

[X-Man#4]

Which writers were you talking about, in this case?

Perhaps I was unclear, I simply meant that even when clones are used by Fraction (See madylene Pryor) they have a distinct voice that differs from their original. As per board rules, I will not compare creators. I trust you understand Azure.

[jarrod]

To be fair, it's still miles ahead of the dialogue by people like Claremont, Davis, and Lobdell.
I have disagree, at least with regards to Lobdell's Jubilee. Early Gen X was a treat.

Davis doesn't have the best dialog, but his plots are so neatly tight and his drawings so lush and gorgeous, it gets immediately overlooked by me.

[Azure]

Perhaps I was unclear, I simply meant that even when clones are used by Fraction (See madylene Pryor) they have a distinct voice that differs from their original. As per board rules, I will not compare creators. I trust you understand Azure.

No? I don't understand? Are there cloned characters who are not written with a distinct voice :confused:

[Deus ex Chris]

Perhaps I was unclear, I simply meant that even when clones are used by Fraction (See madylene Pryor) they have a distinct voice that differs from their original. As per board rules, I will not compare creators. I trust you understand Azure.
Reread your post. You did compare creators, even if you referred to them as others. I trust you understand.

[Deus ex Chris]

I have disagree, at least with regards to Lobdell's Jubilee. Early Gen X was a treat.

Davis doesn't have the best dialog, but his plots are so neatly tight and his drawings so lush and gorgeous, it gets immediately overlooked by me.

Well, the bliss couldn't last. We're at odds again, since I disagree with everything you just posted.

[jarrod]

Well, the bliss couldn't last. We're at odds again, since I disagree with everything you just posted.
Jubes chewing out Emplate and (not really) defending Emma were glorious. Lobdell gets a bad rap for his Uncanny drek (which was well under par, at least until OZT), but his Gen X was golden.

And Davis is heavenly. I am to strap you down, wire your eyes wide open and gently read the entirety of ClanDestine to you. Then I'm to fuck yr face.

[frog]

i am a fan of beast being tortured. i really appreciate matt fraction's efforts on that end.

Please, AcesX1X, if you must talk about your bondage fantasies there is another thread for that.

[Puunk]

I don't know if it's just me, but I'm actually enjoying that the Cuckoos aren't all bunched up together (as usual). Mindee (or ... "Irma") by herself here is just perfect.

But nice preview!

[Deus ex Chris]

Jubes chewing out Emplate and (not really) defending Emma were glorious. Lobdell gets a bad rap for his Uncanny drek (which was well under par, at least until OZT), but his Gen X was golden.

And Davis is heavenly. I am to strap you down, wire your eyes wide open and gently read the entirety of ClanDestine to you. Then I'm to fuck yr face.

I'm feeling mixed emotions about this.

[ProfeZZor X]

I know Rogue is going up against Ares, but it would cool to also see Bobby take him on as well, since he and Ares are invinceable.

[jarrod]

I know Rogue is going up against Ares, but it would cool to also see Bobby take him on as well, since he and Ares are invinceable.
+1!

I would also like to see Ares topping Bobby.

[Prodigy55]

"You're never alone Peter, ever"

"Hey, I'm Ali. Hey."

"Die." ...........