CBR: X-POSITION: Craig Kyle & Chris Yost

[CBR News]

"X-Force" writers Craig Kyle and Christopher Yost talk to CBR's X-POSITION about "Necrosha," the new storyline where dead X-Men rise from the grave. And yes, they address the elephant in the room! Plus exclusive art!


Full article here (http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=22418).

[worstblogever]

Doubly thank goodness. I was looking forward to this, and today was a miserably slow X-Wednesday on shelves.

[worstblogever]

I feel the need to add to their statement about Blackest Night comparisons... the dead come back in comics en masse all the time. At Marvel, too.

Undead Genoshans rose during "The Collective".
Black Talon attacked She-Hulk with Scaleface, Harry Leland, the Living Diamond, and Changeling in "X-Humed".

And many, many more. Each one of these "dead rising" stories are different, unique, and brilliant in their own way. And I'm sure that both Blackest Night and Necrosha will both be able to stake a claim to the same complimentary adjectives.




I will, however, not comment on their referring to Feral as a "Rahne knock-off". That's for Swashbuckler to handle.


Oh, and add the preview image of #18 with X-23 to the X-Bondage thread, someone, please?

[Monty_Cristo]

is the elephant Shortpack or Mammomax?

[elaniel]

Yay, my first ever question got in there! :D
Although I put my whole name in there rather than my online tag. LOL
Thanks for answering my question (somewhat) guys :D

[XaviersMisprint]

The art looks gorgeous! Haven't seen Wither in a while, sounds cool.

[RoguishGurl]

Is that Kimura's arm?

[Faded]

Warpath has his fair share of loved ones among the dead. What are the odds he’ll see his former fling Risque or his brother (John Proudstar) during “Necrosha?”

YOST: I’d say the chances are about a thousand percent. I mean, there’s a one-in-one chance he’s going to see at least one of those guys, if not two.

KYLE: And one of those will be Thunderbird


I don't care if its a tease and even if Risque doesn't appear, I know feel as though my online existence is now justified.

[alf_to_the_rescue]

Woop woop .........

[The Phoenix King]

I feel the need to add to their statement about Blackest Night comparisons... the dead come back in comics en masse all the time. At Marvel, too.

Undead Genoshans rose during "The Collective".
Black Talon attacked She-Hulk with Scaleface, Harry Leland, the Living Diamond, and Changeling in "X-Humed".

And many, many more. Each one of these "dead rising" stories are different, unique, and brilliant in their own way. And I'm sure that both Blackest Night and Necrosha will both be able to stake a claim to the same complimentary adjectives.




I will, however, not comment on their referring to Feral as a "Rahne knock-off". That's for Swashbuckler to handle.


Oh, and add the preview image of #18 with X-23 to the X-Bondage thread, someone, please?

You raise an excellent point about the whole Blackest Night/Necrosha comparison, and I really liked how Kyle and Yost dealt with the issue firmly off the bat. Of course, that won't stop the Newsarama trolls from hopping on and saying something along the lines of, "OMG! kYle and Yost rip off BlACKEST NIGHT!" but at the very least, they tried.

(and yes, the use of bad grammer and capitalization was intention.)

Loved the preview images from X-Force #18, and the answers from K and Y were awesome, as always.

[Faded]

Nvm that doesn't make sense. LOL.

[Pach!]

The Feral diss is poetic.

[Personamanx]

A pretty good X-Position.

[timbox]

I guess I will buy this.

[worstblogever]

You raise an excellent point about the whole Blackest Night/Necrosha comparison, and I really liked how Kyle and Yost dealt with the issue firmly off the bat. Of course, that won't stop the Newsarama trolls from hopping on and saying something along the lines of, "OMG! kYle and Yost rip off BlACKEST

WORD. Yeah, that was bugging me last week. Especially because, like I just threw out there now... it's a device that's been done so many times.

Hell, I think Frank Tieri used the version of fighting an army of the dead where hero goes to the afterlife, and has to fight everyone he's killed within a few years of each other... once in Deadpool, and once on Wolverine. And that just got re-used in Incredible Hercules, too.

It's like dogging out a pro-wrestler for hitting another pro-wrestler with a chair, and accusing them of ripping off the Rock. Which, plenty of guys have done that thing before and after. It's a storytelling device of the medium. That's all. Nothing to decry that writers are like an unscrupulous delinquent student trying to peep on someone else's answer sheet during Finals.

[timbox]

Psylocke with two katanas is going to be the best version ever seen.

[xmanfan527]

Is that Kimura's arm?

YES i think it was, so has she teamed up with HAMMER to take down tha facility??? or is Agent young working for the facility??? cant wait 2 find out. love this book.

[Azure]

I hope that evil facility guy with glasses turns up during this current arc.

[X-Man#4]

I hope that evil facility guy with glasses turns up during this current arc.

Their comments on Necrosha/blackest Night comparisons and the fan discontent regarding MW were particularly enlightening.

[worstblogever]

Messiah War wasn't bad, it just wasn't as flat-out awesome as all the other arcs on this title have been.

[Cayman]

This guy is staring at me and it's kinda creepy.

http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt217/daxamike/XForce18-005.jpg

[timbox]

The good thing about people with small minds is that they are so predictable; you don't even have to read their post because you already know what they are going to say. You know what the response to your post will be before you even finish it.

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=9389873&postcount=191

[Monty_Cristo]

This guy is staring at me and it's kinda creepy.

http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt217/daxamike/XForce18-005.jpg

Depowered Shortpack

[jester1436]

Their comments on Necrosha/blackest Night comparisons and the fan discontent regarding MW were particularly enlightening.

FORBIDDDDENNNNNNN!!!!!

[Majinoaw]

Messiah War wasn't bad, it just wasn't as flat-out awesome as all the other arcs on this title have been.

Agreed. Parts of it read like a homage to X-Cutioner's Song. Did anyone else catch that vibe?

[Faded]

LOLGOODBAI

If Surge wasn't seen out and about in Utopia, I would think she would be the first to be resurrected in X-Force 18.

[Pach!]

I thought it was bad. and it hurts me to say it as im a huge fan of all 3 writers but i was bored. X-force and Cable have gone back to being enjoyable since the crossover so its all good.

[worstblogever]

Agreed. Parts of it read like a homage to X-Cutioner's Song. Did anyone else catch that vibe?

Same players. Far fewer of them, but the main ones (Cable, Apocalypse, Stryfe, Bishop, X-Force...) were there.

[Azure]

Seriously, guys! What's the name of evil glasses man?

[X-Man#4]

The good thing about people with small minds is that they are so predictable; you don't even have to read their post because you already know what they are going to say. You know what the response to your post will be before you even finish it.

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=9389873&postcount=191

Ohhh Timbox, as I understand it, as long as I am not critical of C&C, then I may post. If I have misunderstood the arrangement with Cronin, then I am sure he will inform me. If you'd like to bring my post to his attention, I certainly wouldn't mind. I hope he would ask you to explain what about my post in this thread was inappropriate. I honestly found their comments enlightening. For example, based upon their comments, they may have indeed planned Necrosha prior to Blackest Night and in its actual telling it might be quite different than Blackest Night when all is said and done. This may make my intial criticism obsolete. As well, it looks like they concede that many fans were dissatisfied with MW and they offered up reasons for why fans might ahve felt shortchanged. I found that to be enlightening, didn't you?

Finally, while you continue to direct personal insults my way ("small minds" and all that), you'll note that I have refrained from responding in kind. I hope you'll reconsider your approach as it can be quite abrasive. Best regards.

[xmanfan527]

Seriously, guys! What's the name of evil glasses man?

Adam Harkins i belive.

[RoguishGurl]

YES i think it was, so has she teamed up with HAMMER to take down tha facility??? or is Agent young working for the facility??? cant wait 2 find out. love this book.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Facility was working with HAMMER. They did work with Hydra in the Astonishing Tales story.

[timbox]

Seriously, guys! What's the name of evil glasses man?

I'd rather see Mary the Purifier.

[Supercoolshay]

Is that Kimura's arm?

There are some claw marks on her uniform under her arm. The outfit is similar. I'd say it's a safe bet.


http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i216/ShayL_Hansen/ScreenHunter_11Aug051421.gif

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i216/ShayL_Hansen/ScreenHunter_12Aug051423.gif

[Fatguy]

Warpath has his fair share of loved ones among the dead. What are the odds he’ll see his former fling Risque or his brother (John Proudstar) during “Necrosha?”

YOST: I’d say the chances are about a thousand percent. I mean, there’s a one-in-one chance he’s going to see at least one of those guys, if not two.

KYLE: And one of those will be Thunderbird


I don't care if its a tease and even if Risque doesn't appear, I know feel as though my online existence is now justified.

lol I actually took their answer as anti-Risque returning. I was all ready to be sad for you.

[Chaos_Alfa]

Seriously, guys! What's the name of evil glasses man?
Dr. Adam Harkins?

edit: I have been beaten :S

[Azure]

Adam Harkins i belive.

Yes! Thank you. I hope he returns and murders another elephant.

I'd rather see Mary the Purifier.

Her too! She could help Harkins murder an elephant, and then they fall in love, and then she stabs him in the heart for no reason. I'd love an issue focused on all the humans who are wandering around at the very edge of X-Force's radar.

[Robbiebob_16]

Loved this interview. But I really want to see Hepzibah again.... badly.:mad: The preview art looks gorgeous, if not a little creepy! I love Choi's Domino. She looks better than ever IMO.

[Prodigy55]

So if I read this right: Risque, Wither and Wallflower are going to come back to kill Warpath, Elixir and Loa.

And Feral is going to kill Wolfsbane!

[AnthonyJ]

lol I actually took their answer as anti-Risque returning. I was all ready to be sad for you.
I'd take it as a 'zero information' answer, which is more or less traditional.

[darknessatnoon]

I'd take it as a 'zero information' answer, which is more or less traditional.

They quite obviously answered No on Risque and Yes on Thunderbird. Reread please.

[timbox]

A definite "maybe" on Feral.

[Ratstar]

Disapointed my question wasn't picked, but cool anyway. Sounds interesting, and the preview pages look great.
I wish the Messiah War collection didn't have such a terrible cover art though.

[AnthonyJ]

They quite obviously answered No on Risque and Yes on Thunderbird. Reread please.

YOST: I’d say the chances are about a thousand percent. I mean, there’s a one-in-one chance he’s going to see at least one of those guys, if not two.

Let's parse. At least one means one or more. If not two is a standard phrase which leaves open the possibility of seeing two.

KYLE: And one of those will be Thunderbird

This merely confirms that Thunderbird will appear -- if two appear, Thunderbird will be one of them, if one appears, that one will be Thunderbird.

This is not to say I expect to see Risque; I don't. But K&Ys answer does not confirm or deny anything.

[Pach!]

YOST: I’d say the chances are about a thousand percent. I mean, there’s a one-in-one chance he’s going to see at least one of those guys, if not two.

Let's parse. At least one means one or more. If not two is a standard phrase which leaves open the possibility of seeing two.

KYLE: And one of those will be Thunderbird

This merely confirms that Thunderbird will appear -- if two appear, Thunderbird will be one of them, if one appears, that one will be Thunderbird.

This is not to say I expect to see Risque; I don't. But K&Ys answer does not confirm or deny anything.
They confirm that Thunderbird appear..as you just stated.

[Hi-Fi]

They said no to Risque. Lame.

Tell you the truth, I hope Necrosha rocks my world. I didn't really love Messiah War and I think it kinda ruined the momentum the book was having for a bit. It's a shame, because I'm a big fan of Craig and Chris. Hopefully, X-Force will get back on track soon. Last issue was good, so I am confident!

The Hepzibah explanation still makes no sense to me, though! She's one of the few characters who doesn't have a problem with killing.

[rwsmith]

Nice X-POSITION. I always love it when they have Kyle & Yost in these things! Highlights for me:

- Warpath confronting Thunderbird
- Rahne > Feral
- Messiah War HC won't be X-Force HC Vol. 3 (so I can skip it, since it seemed a bit pointless to me)

Don't care about the Blackest Night comparison as I understand that conicindences happen and don't read anything DC (other than Morrison and Quitely's Batman and Robin, that is), but I'm glad they addressed it so maybe some folks will STFU about it already.

Basically, as long as Wolverine runs this team I'm invested in it for the long-haul (and that should be a good long time based on what Craig Kyle told me after the X-men panel at Comic Con). :cool:

[Quinnhop]

I do so want in their pants.

Ménage à trois, plz.

(And if not that, I'll settle for Surge and Hellion playing a major role in the upcoming arcs. Yesplz.)

They said no to Risque. Lame.

Tell you the truth, I hope Necrosha rocks my world. I didn't really love Messiah War and I think it kinda ruined the momentum the book was having for a bit. It's a shame, because I'm a big fan of Craig and Chris. Hopefully, X-Force will get back on track soon. Last issue was good, so I am confident!

The Hepzibah explanation still makes no sense to me, though! She's one of the few characters who doesn't have a problem with killing.

Ah, but Hiffy, depending on who you ask...Risque is still alive.

[Goshin]

what about madelyne pryor?



wait.....


nervermind....

[Prodigy55]

Guys, Thunderbird already appeared in #11, so by even answering the question they confirmed Risque.

[Hi-Fi]

Ah, but Hiffy, depending on who you ask...Risque is still alive.
I guess. When I ask myself, the answer is always yes.

LOL. I am in an awful mood. I am sorry if my post sounded bitchy, Craig and Chris. I love you guys!

[Til]

My Mammomax question wasn't picked :frown:

Still a good X-Position though. I'm eagerly anticipating the Elixir/Wither fight. Hopefully Wither will be shirtless during it, since that'll give him more opportunities to use his powers. Yeah, that's why...

[.LuckyStar.]

Psylocke with two katanas is going to be the best version ever seen.

I'm so excited, timbox! I had also asked about X-23/Psylocke, too bad it was cut out. I really think either X, Surge or Armor will travel to Japan with Betsy too!

[Green Griffin]

If you really think about it. Blackest Night and Necrosha are not really alike at all. Sure they both have the dead rising to attack there former friends. But Blackest Night Affects all of the DCU while Necrosha will only affect X-force, New Mutants and X-men Legacy. One will change the way we look at some characters while the other will feture Wolverine and Crew hacking and slashing away at some beloved dead X-men and villains.

I do wonder, will Sabertooth be invited to the party and who will be doing the art for Necrosha?

[chickrockguitar]

Oo. Looking foward to the Wither/Elixir stuff... any bets on that its Laurie and Jay who come back?

[Hi-Fi]

Oh, man! I hope we do get Wallflower vs Loa. In X-Force or in Legacy, I'd be happy about it.

[Ratstar]

The Hepzibah explanation still makes no sense to me, though! She's one of the few characters who doesn't have a problem with killing.
He feels he's turned into a killer, she's 'his girl' so he doesn't want her to see him like that, or see the same thing happen to her (or for her to get hurt, since she doesn't seem to have the same kind of protective abilities the other people on the team have)... *shrug*


- Messiah War HC won't be X-Force HC Vol. 3 (so I can skip it, since it seemed a bit pointless to me)

About the HC... If that's to contain the X-Force MW issues, does that mean X-Force vol 3 will be the issues before and after MW in one, or one for before then one for after?

Guys, Thunderbird already appeared in #11, so by even answering the question they confirmed Risque.
I don't think that was how it was meant.

[Prodigy55]

Oh, man! I hope we do get Wallflower vs Loa. In X-Force or in Legacy, I'd be happy about it.

I hope Loa doesn't die :eek: :eek: :eek: :frown:

[CMBMOOL]

I have to say this interview shows me that they do have guts to take upon the criticism given to them when being compared this event to the DC Blackest Night event and I also enjoyed how they explained their criticism toward the recent Messiah War event. :redface:

Overall this interview shows that these guys have what it takes to be great writers of the X-men. :tongue:

[Goshin]

i wanna see wolfspane kill her clone/replacement feral

[Hi-Fi]

I hope Loa doesn't die :eek: :eek: :eek:
I hope Wallflower does! Oh... wait... she's dead already. :redface:

[Cayman]

I hope Wallflower does! Oh... wait... she's dead already. :redface:

I hope Wallflower dies again.

[Prodigy55]

h8ers gonna h8
lololol

[Hi-Fi]

h8ers gonna h8
lololol
You started it.

[darknessatnoon]

YOST: I’d say the chances are about a thousand percent. I mean, there’s a one-in-one chance he’s going to see at least one of those guys, if not two.

Let's parse. At least one means one or more. If not two is a standard phrase which leaves open the possibility of seeing two.

KYLE: And one of those will be Thunderbird

This merely confirms that Thunderbird will appear -- if two appear, Thunderbird will be one of them, if one appears, that one will be Thunderbird.

This is not to say I expect to see Risque; I don't. But K&Ys answer does not confirm or deny anything.

All that blather is them trying not to laugh at the idea of including Risque. They clearly don't want to be rude. Thunderbird will appear. That one girl won't.

[SayOcean]

Feral is awesome, though I wouldnt mind seeing thornn interact with the X force folks. Feral imho is just a lil better than Rahne...but thats cause the pussy is crazy. Wouldnt mind seeing some more ex new mutants interact with Xforce

[Prodigy55]

You started it.

:redface: :frown:
I just said that I hoped Loa wouldn't die...
*cries and runs away*

[darknessatnoon]

Feral is awesome, though I wouldnt mind seeing thornn interact with the X force folks. Feral imho is just a lil better than Rahne...but thats cause the pussy is crazy. Wouldnt mind seeing some more ex new mutants interact with Xforce

Most characters are better than Rahne.

[Waterlily]

YOST: there’s a one-in-one chance he’s going to see at least one of those guys, if not two.

I read that as Yost saying we'd see two Thunderbird's. Can techno-organic zombies make dublicates of themselves?

[Goshin]

Feral is awesome, though I wouldnt mind seeing thornn interact with the X force folks. Feral imho is just a lil better than Rahne...but thats cause the pussy is crazy. Wouldnt mind seeing some more ex new mutants interact with Xforce



feral was just a piss poor clone to replace rahne sinclair because peter david wanted her for x factor

[darknessatnoon]

feral was just a piss poor clone to replace rahne sinclair because peter david wanted her for x factor

Feral is not a religious freak.

[coveredinbees]

YOST: there’s a one-in-one chance he’s going to see at least one of those guys, if not two.

I read that as Yost saying we'd see two Thunderbird's. Can techno-organic zombies make dublicates of themselves?
I think he meant Neal.

[Waterlily]

I think he meant Neal.

I did not know he was dead. Yost's answer makes more sense now.

[darknessatnoon]

I did not know he was dead. Yost's answer makes more sense now.

If he's not, he should be.

[coveredinbees]

I did not know he was dead. Yost's answer makes more sense now.
That's okay. XMXFTB isn't that far yet.

[Home made ectoplasm]

Most characters are better than Rahne.

I was under the impression that Cronin had banned you from posting this opinion

[Monty_Cristo]

feral was just a piss poor clone to replace rahne sinclair because peter david wanted her for x factor

i'm meeting you guys half-way. she was more like a female wannabe of Sabretooth and a potential adversary for Rahne Sinclair.

[darknessatnoon]

I was under the impression that Cronin had banned you from posting this opinion

No, because I am not by trolling and claiming that Kyle & Yost go out of their way try to make Rahne look good. They know not to try the impossible.

[Faded]

lol I actually took their answer as anti-Risque returning. I was all ready to be sad for you.

They said no to Risque. Lame.

WTF GUYZ!

I had no idea it could be interpreted that way!

YOST: I’d say the chances are about a thousand percent. I mean, there’s a one-in-one chance he’s going to see at least one of those guys, if not two.

Let's parse. At least one means one or more. If not two is a standard phrase which leaves open the possibility of seeing two.

KYLE: And one of those will be Thunderbird

This merely confirms that Thunderbird will appear -- if two appear, Thunderbird will be one of them, if one appears, that one will be Thunderbird.

This is not to say I expect to see Risque; I don't. But K&Ys answer does not confirm or deny anything.

Correct, at least in regards to Risque.

I'm not saying they're saying yes either, but they're not saying no!

[SayOcean]

I was under the impression that Cronin had banned you from posting this opinionif he hasn't i vote that he does

[FemGeek]

Yay, they answered my question, yay.
I shall look forward to some awesome Rahne moments. and am pleased by the confirmation that Rahne is superior to Feral.
And the previews looked the sex.

[Quinnhop]

About the HC... If that's to contain the X-Force MW issues, does that mean X-Force vol 3 will be the issues before and after MW in one, or one for before then one for after?

I got the impression that it would be a case of done-in-one, with a blank page saying "Continued in X-Force/Cable: Messiah War" before the rest of it. Or maybe even sans that.

EDIT

Indeed, that seems to be the case (http://www.amazon.com/X-Force-Vol-3-Not-Forgotten/dp/0785140190/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1249516559&sr=8-3).


Cyclops and Wolverine struggle to deal with the growing threats facing mutants while still keeping X-Force's existence a secret from the X-Men. Warpath is out for vengeance, Wolfsbane is missing, and X-23 keeps cutting off pieces of Vanisher. But worst of all? One mutant's deadly actions will put mutantkind squarely back in the crosshairs of humanity. Things were bad before, but they're about to get a hell of lot worse! Collects X-Force #12-13, #17-19.

[Dave13]

I wonder if I ask for a Powerup for Elixir would that count as a Question?

[coveredinbees]

I wonder if I ask for a Powerup for Elixir would that count as a Question?
If you put it in the form of a question then it will be a question.

[frog]

Sounds like fun!


The real problem with Messiah War was that it involved Cable, and therefore was restricted to the same plotline that Cable has been flogging for about a year now. The Cable book just isn't going to interest me until it stops being about Bishop chasing Cable and Hope and failing over and over.

[Bingo!]

The preview art is beginning to make want more of this Choi fella.

[frog]

*waves hand again*

So, Yost, was that confirmation that Elixir makes it to Necrosha?

[Bronze Badger]

Seriously, guys! What's the name of evil glasses man?

Adam Harkin

[Washout]

If he's not, he should be.

He's not, and he should.


By mentioning Changeling in the article, I'm taking a leap that he may be resurrected. If he is, I hope he haunts Vanisher as they were teammates. That's the only reason I could see them bringing Changeling back.

[Monty_Cristo]

He's not, and he should.


By mentioning Changeling in the article, I'm taking a leap that he may be resurrected. If he is, I hope he haunts Vanisher as they were teammates. That's the only reason I could see them bringing Changeling back.

Changeling could take over with the Mutant Underground where Professor X left off.

[tridon]

Can anyone let me know which issues of New X-Men that Yost and Kyle planted the seeds for this event? I'll have to pick those issues up, as well. I really love Choi and Oback on art chores. I wish they'd take over 100% from Crain.

[RoguishGurl]

Can anyone let me know which issues of New X-Men that Yost and Kyle planted the seeds for this event? I'll have to pick those issues up, as well. I really love Choi and Oback on art chores. I wish they'd take over 100% from Crain.
I think it was New X-men #32.

[coveredinbees]

Can anyone let me know which issues of New X-Men that Yost and Kyle planted the seeds for this event? I'll have to pick those issues up, as well. I really love Choi and Oback on art chores. I wish they'd take over 100% from Crain.
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/2014/img001wjd.jpg

[Filthy Mutie]

Maggot is not my beloved anything! I wish they answered my more pointed, insight-uncovering questions.

Neeext tiiiiiiiiimmme!

[Maestro]

so is there going to be a team-up between X-Force and the New Mutants or not?

Laura and Illyana could probably beat Selene by themselves

[Whim]

it sounded like

yes- wallflower, thunderbird

maybe - dj, risque

no - tag, feral, von roehm, maggot

the neverland comment was interesting. really though like they said who was actually confirmed dead? it seems like the whole neverland concept was just abandoned. which is a shame as I didn't want some of those characters to die but it did need a resolution.

[otipep_90]

the neverland comment was interesting. really though like they said who was actually confirmed dead? it seems like the whole neverland concept was just abandoned. which is a shame as I didn't want some of those characters to die but it did need a resolution.

Yeah does any one know who else died at the Neverland Camp? Also I'm suprised and appalled there was no question about Banshee coming back.

[Faded]

It seemed like Marjorie Liu wanted to revisit the Neverland camp storyline.

[Jack Flash]

Yeah does any one know who else died at the Neverland Camp? Also I'm suprised and appalled there was no question about Banshee coming back.

Sienna Blaze
Bulwark
Ape
Tar Baby
Maggott

[Nyssane]

"Who else was confirmed dead in Neverland"?

SIENA BLAZE, maybe?! Necrosha marks the return of Ms. Blaze, I bet.

[Nyssane]

Sienna Blaze
Bulwark
Ape
Tar Baby
Maggott

Especially considering that list. Bulwark is nonsense, Ape and Tar Baby are redundant Morlocks... Siena nearly killed the three leaders of the X-Men in one hit.

[Faded]

Sienna Blaze
Bulwark
Ape
Tar Baby
Maggott

Uncannyxmen.net keeps saying my favorite closet homo Paulie Provenzano is dead, too, even though I don't think he is.

[timbox]

I will kill myself and I mean it if you guys do not bring back Sway and Petra!

[Prodigy55]

What??? Bulwark is dead? *DEVASTATED*

[otipep_90]

YES!!! Sienna Blaze needs to happen C&C! She shall be Mistress Selene's right hand............................

[Nyssane]

Uncannyxmen.net keeps saying my favorite closet homo Paulie Provenzano is dead, too, even though I don't think he is.

He was supposed to be in the Neverland Camp but apparently the artist mis-drew him or something. Either way, Tieri loves to kill off characters. I hope either A.) Siena Blaze appears as a deadly necro-bitch with Earth-destroying powers like she had when she was alive, or B.) Siena Blaze doesn't appear which further hints that everyone ignores when Tieri kills off a character and she'll appear again later.

[Faded]

I will kill myself and I mean it if you guys do not bring back Sway and Petra!

Ugh. Suicidez is gross, timbox.

Just...kill someone else.

He was supposed to be in the Neverland Camp but apparently the artist mis-drew him or something. Either way, Tieri loves to kill off characters. I hope either A.) Siena Blaze appears as a deadly necro-bitch with Earth-destroying powers like she had when she was alive, or B.) Siena Blaze doesn't appear which further hints that everyone ignores when Tieri kills off a character and she'll appear again later.

Yeah, I thought they acknowledged the error and just decided not to off him.

But I guess they forgot because he really doesn't matter to anything at all ever.

BUT
I did enjoy him.

Anyway, I equate Tieri's Weapon X with ghastly secretions, but I did like the Neverland concept. I'd really love to see what Liu would do with it.

[Swashbuckler]

A definite "maybe" on Feral.

LOL, they were so mean about it. Which Feral would have appreciated. KUDOS to Kyle and Yost! And SHE IS NOT A RAHNE KNOCK OFF. Feral is a cat, Rahne is dog. GEEZ!

I can't believe they even asked that question. But I really was just interested in why they felt she wasn't relevent at all like they said in a previous interview. TUrns out they just weren't thinking enough about the stinkin' piece of meat that is FERAL-BABY.

[Nyssane]

Yeah, I thought they acknowledged the error and just decided not to off him.

But I guess they forgot because he really doesn't matter to anything at all ever.

BUT
I did enjoy him.

Anyway, I equate Tieri's Weapon X with ghastly secretions, but I did like the Neverland concept. I'd really love to see what Liu would do with it.

I loved Paulie, too!

It's an interesting concept, and I'd enjoy it more if it was a bunch of faceless, nameless mutants or something (or even just mutants who are really ridiculous, though I do have soft spots for Ape and Tar Baby). But to put someone like Siena Blaze, who can split the planet in two with her powers... it doesn't make sense that she'd get captured. Especially since when she teleports, she leaves a huge ass explosion.

[Faded]

I loved Paulie, too!

It's an interesting concept, and I'd enjoy it more if it was a bunch of faceless, nameless mutants or something (or even just mutants who are really ridiculous, though I do have soft spots for Ape and Tar Baby). But to put someone like Siena Blaze, who can split the planet in two with her powers... it doesn't make sense that she'd get captured. Especially since when she teleports, she leaves a huge ass explosion.

LOL I did like Ape and Tar Baby, too, although I didn't know "Tar Baby" was a racial slur. TBH though they made for good fodder.

Except Maggot, I think that was just meant to be mean and Siena because she would not go down like that.

[darknessatnoon]

I will kill myself and I mean it if you guys do not bring back Sway and Petra!

Ditto re: Omerta.

[Swashbuckler]

I'm glad that writers at least knew who Feral was, but they probably dont' know Omerta.

[darknessatnoon]

I'm glad that writers at least knew who Feral was, but they probably dont' know Omerta.

That's too bad, because I can't let my kitties belong to someone else. The writers will be killing me and three black puddies.

[darknessatnoon]

EDIT: Shit, I HATE Omerta. I meant Wraith. These fanfic names for characters who never had superhero names are confusing. I want Hector back. He made Skin look normal in comparison even with all those penises hanging off his face.

[Nyssane]

LOL I did like Ape and Tar Baby, too, although I didn't know "Tar Baby" was a racial slur. TBH though they made for good fodder.

Except Maggot, I think that was just meant to be mean and Siena because she would not go down like that.

OH MY GOD IS IT?!?! What is Tar Baby racial slurry for?

I dunno why I like Ape, I just always have. But other Morlocks are better, like Bliss and Annalee (who I really hope comes back in Necrosha). I've loved Tar Baby ever since Deadpool made a crack about him during The Burnt Offering. It was the most random reference ever, it made me love Tar Baby instantly.

If it was a bunch of Morlocks and random one-off characters like Alchemy or Briquette (yeah I'd settle for that fat rock betch's death over Siena's), then I'd be okay with it.

[Faded]

Omerta was like Hellion, but people were willing to strangle him in space so its ok.

OH MY GOD IS IT?!?! What is Tar Baby racial slurry for?

I dunno why I like Ape, I just always have. But other Morlocks are better, like Bliss and Annalee (who I really hope comes back in Necrosha). I've loved Tar Baby ever since Deadpool made a crack about him during The Burnt Offering. It was the most random reference ever, it made me love Tar Baby instantly.

If it was a bunch of Morlocks and random one-off characters like Alchemy or Briquette (yeah I'd settle for that fat rock betch's death over Siena's), then I'd be okay with it.

Tar Baby was a term for African-Americans, but I don't know much about it beyond that.

Ape was fun. He would turn into a trashcan! then a basketball hoop! and it would kind of trip me out.

I was actually going to mention Alchemy! I think a lot of the 198 nobodies would be perfect Neverlandians. Alchemy, Rhapsody...all fresh meat.

Some major characters would care, but it also wouldn't be a big loss, like if Trance died or something.

[timbox]

This thread is not about the stupidest, most obscure characters we can think of; it's about porno-face Sway and Petra.

[darknessatnoon]

This thread is not about the stupidest, most obscure characters we can think of; it's about porno-face Sway and Petra.

Which pornstars would you like Choi to trace for them - or should they he be referred directly to Land?

[timbox]

Which pornstars would you like Choi to trace for them - or should they he be referred directly to Land?

Evelyn Lin is Sway.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e3/Evelyn_Lin_2.jpg/450px-Evelyn_Lin_2.jpg

[darknessatnoon]

Evelyn Lin is Sway.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e3/Evelyn_Lin_2.jpg/450px-Evelyn_Lin_2.jpg

I need a visitor's pass to see the guy behind her.

[Faded]

This thread is not about the stupidest, most obscure characters we can think of; it's about porno-face Sway and Petra.

BITCH
X-Man is being discussed in the Marvel.com's Top Ten Dead X-Men thread.

Redirect thyself, timbox.

[timbox]

I need a visitor's pass to see the guy behind her.

He looks gross.

[darknessatnoon]

BITCH
X-Man is being discussed in the Marvel.com's Top Ten Dead X-Men thread.

Redirect thyself, timbox.

http://marvel.com/universe3zx/images/thumb/e/ea/Xman442.jpg/440px-Xman442.jpg

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...................hhhhhhhmm mmmmmmm

[darknessatnoon]

He looks gross.

I need a 40oz to go see him.

[Green Griffin]

Who on Art duty for this?

[MarvelGirlBoy]

I hope Selene brings back Michael Jackson.

[Jack Flash]

Especially considering that list. Bulwark is nonsense, Ape and Tar Baby are redundant Morlocks... Siena nearly killed the three leaders of the X-Men in one hit.

Bulwark is not nonsense! Take it back or I shall keel someone too!

[Diablito]

If Maggott comes back, I'm reading X-Books again.

[joemagnum611]

LOL, they were so mean about it. Which Feral would have appreciated. KUDOS to Kyle and Yost! And SHE IS NOT A RAHNE KNOCK OFF. Feral is a cat, Rahne is dog. GEEZ!

I can't believe they even asked that question. But I really was just interested in why they felt she wasn't relevent at all like they said in a previous interview. TUrns out they just weren't thinking enough about the stinkin' piece of meat that is FERAL-BABY.

Isn't Feral depowered? At least that's what was said last time her and Thorn showed up in Wolverine

[KrullWall]

If Maggott comes back, I'm reading X-Books again.

I hope you never read another issue again

[worstblogever]

feral was just a piss poor clone to replace rahne sinclair because peter david wanted her for x factor

Actually, I think I recall PAD saying he pretty much got handed a team and ran with it. "Wanting her" really isn't how it went down.

It was featured in one of our own moderator's "comic book urban legends, #211, Pt. 3" (http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2009/06/11/comic-book-legends-revealed-211/)

As the story goes, the book was originally pitched with a team by Erik Larsen and Fabian Nicienza. PAD comes in, in the comments, with this:

That’s interesting. I had no idea that Fabe and Erik had a pitch in on “X-Factor.”

Me, I never did a pitch on it. They just came to me and said, “Here’s the team, we’d like you to write it.”

PAD


So yeah, one to grow on.

[Goshin]

i still think feral is a shitty wolverine clone sabretooth should be granted a second life as a reward for killing her off. maybe he'll come back during necrosha looking for his head!!

[worstblogever]

i still think feral is a shitty wolverine clone sabretooth should be granted a second life as a reward for killing her off. maybe he'll come back during necrosha looking for his head!!

A lot of people should, they just fail to realize it's up their *** the whole time.

[Goshin]

i really wanna see banshee come back and get taken seriously, he was always the most underrated x-man in his day

[Whim]

Siena Blaze... that was a character that really had some potential then after that malibu stint just kinda vanished. I'd rather she not be dead, she could still be a viable threat, or just a new upstarts would be pretty cool.

I still could see Maggot coming back if someone actually cared. I don't see all the hate on him. oh well I guess on Bulwark, at least Vincente is still waiting to be used I guess.

[Ratstar]

Who on Art duty for this?

Choi's doing the X-23 issues (17-19), Crain is doing the Necrosha issues. So it'll look alright, but unless Crain adds some more colours to his palette Elixir vs Wither are going to look like twins.

[Supercoolshay]

I hope Selene brings back Michael Jackson.

This statement is so full of win.

[timbox]

I'm so excited, timbox! I had also asked about X-23/Psylocke, too bad it was cut out. I really think either X, Surge or Armor will travel to Japan with Betsy too!

Sometimes they need help deciding which questions need to be addressed.

After seeing Betsy in the Uncanny preview (complete with cell phone), I think Armor would be a great choice to hang out with. I'd be happy with any of the three, though. X-23 and Psylocke already have a history that needs to be built on!

[Ratstar]

Sometimes they need help deciding which questions need to be addressed.

After seeing Betsy in the Uncanny preview (complete with cell phone), I think Armor would be a great choice to hang out with. I'd be happy with any of the three, though. X-23 and Psylocke already have a history that needs to be built on!

Or ignored forever along with the rest of Claremont's X-23 stories.

[timbox]

Or ignored forever along with the rest of Claremont's X-23 stories.

Psylocke/X-23 was brilliant and worked well for both characters.

[Dave13]

so is there going to be a team-up between X-Force and the New Mutants or not?

Laura and Illyana could probably beat Selene by themselves

Fromthe Reading of the article it doesn't sound like the Teams will actually be teaming up.

[Puunk]

The art looks gorgeous! Haven't seen Wither in a while, sounds cool.

Wither! Awesome!

Will there be a confrontation between Wither and his former friends considering that he wasn't there when his friends were fighting and dying?
KYLE: You bet your ass!
YOST: Absolutely!

^ I'm giddy. :)

[X-Man#4]

Basically, as long as Wolverine runs this team I'm invested in it for the long-haul (and that should be a good long time based on what Craig Kyle told me after the X-men panel at Comic Con). :cool:

Based on what was said in the X-Position, it seems like a new writer(s) would be handed the reigns soon (or near enough in the future that they talk about leaving plotlines dangling for the next writer...are you saying that C&C are in it for he forseeable future? Did they happen to provide any specific timeline?

[coconutphone]

I guess. When I ask myself, the answer is always yes.

LOL. I am in an awful mood. I am sorry if my post sounded bitchy, Craig and Chris. I love you guys!


Would you abandon them to a mugger if you could get away but they were stuck? You know you would ;)

[streator]

i don't know how i feel about thunderbird coming back. we've kind of already seen jimmy come to terms with his brother's death but we'll see.

i did like wither early on so him coming back should be fun.

as for maggott? like i said in another thread, i'd rather see him brought back via mr. sinister somehow but if he comes back in this crossover hopefully it won't just be for a bit role. i'm pretty sure that he's only met wolverine & archangel from this team.

[gothicelfisback]

i really enjoyed this intrerview with Kyle, and Yost, i can;t wait to see wither back, and off course to see what there doing with x-23 i''m intrigued by it

[X-Man#4]

i really enjoyed this intrerview with Kyle, and Yost, i can;t wait to see wither back, and off course to see what there doing with x-23 i''m intrigued by it

I'm excited to see the Wither/Eliir fight as their powers are really yin and yang to one another. It will also be a nice diversion (read "side plot") from the main story.....

[AcesX1X]

I'm excited to see the Wither/Eliir fight as their powers are really yin and yang to one another. It will also be a nice diversion (read "side plot") from the main story.....

x-man#4,

i definitely agree with you on your point! i too have been looking forward to wither's story continuation for a while now. and seeing him and elixir face off (which i hope will happen) is something that i wait for eagerly. i feel this will only add to the spotlight that elixir has enjoyed since his introduction into this series.

best,

acesx1x

[rwsmith]

Based on what was said in the X-Position, it seems like a new writer(s) would be handed the reigns soon (or near enough in the future that they talk about leaving plotlines dangling for the next writer...are you saying that C&C are in it for he forseeable future? Did they happen to provide any specific timeline?

From the SDCC X-men panel itself I got the impression that C&C are on this book for the long haul. They mentioned having lots of plans over the next year or two and that the roster would see a shake-up soon, which prompted me to get up and ask a question. Unfortunately the Q&A ended before I got to ask it, so I went up to them afterwards and just asked them anyway. Craig Kyle was very cool and answered it for me (and I also got to talk to Chris Yost briefly as well, also a nice guy).

I asked, "With the upcoming roster changes you mentioned, will Wolverine still continue to lead this team?"

His response was, "As long as I'm involved with this book it will be Wolverine's team" (or something to that effect).

Needless to say, I left happy and secure in the fact that X-Force will remain on my subscription list for a good long time. :biggrin:

[frog]

Marvel would being making a really bad decision to take Kyle and Yost off of X-Force.

Unless they were giving them Uncanny. Now that would be a great move!

[boodha]

Based on what was said in the X-Position, it seems like a new writer(s) would be handed the reigns soon (or near enough in the future that they talk about leaving plotlines dangling for the next writer...are you saying that C&C are in it for he forseeable future? Did they happen to provide any specific timeline?

Lol, dancing on the edge, aren't we? Just kidding, I got no problem with you and just take your question serious.

All what they were trying to say is, that Feral won't be in the book, as long as their writing it, not that they'll leave any time soon. Seriously, if you don't like it, nobody forces you to read it.

[timbox]

Marvel would being making a really bad decision to take Kyle and Yost off of X-Force.

Unless they were giving them Uncanny. Now that would be a great move!

Great idea. That would give Fraction more time to do Iron Man. They should even consider giving one of the Avengers books to Fraction. Yost, Kyle, and Carey can handle the majority of the X-books.

[frog]

Great idea. That would give Fraction more time to do Iron Man. They should even consider giving one of the Avengers books to Fraction. Yost, Kyle, and Carey can handle the majority of the X-books.

Sheer perfection!

[rwsmith]

Marvel would being making a really bad decision to take Kyle and Yost off of X-Force.

Unless they were giving them Uncanny. Now that would be a great move!

Yeah, that's the only way I could see them leaving X-Force. Like I said, though, I got the impression from the X-men panel at SDCC that they had lots of stories planned even beyond Necrosha. This is the big culmination of their Selene story, but I don't think they're going anywhere after it's done (at least I hope not).

The third part of the Messiah trilogy might shake the books up again, though, assuming they ever get around to it. Personally I think they should leave X-Force alone, but who knows what editorial will decide to do...

[frog]

Yeah, that's the only way I could see them leaving X-Force. Like I said, though, I got the impression from the X-men panel at SDCC that they had lots of stories planned even beyond Necrosha. This is the big culmination of their Selene story, but I don't think they're going anywhere after it's done (at least I hope not).

The third part of the Messiah trilogy might shake the books up again, though, assuming they ever get around to it. Personally I think they should leave X-Force alone, but who knows what editorial will decide to do...

The Messiah theme isn't going to do much for me unless they finally bring it back to the present time.

[rwsmith]

Couldn't agree more. They'll do that at some point, though. I'm thinking Cable and Bishop will finally die, Hope will emerge as the adult mutant messiah (possibly the next host of the Phoenix force or something like that), mutantkind will start seeing births again, and the future will be wide open for the X-men once again (since we've kind of been on a crash course headed for Days of Future Past ever since the late 80's it seems).

[X-Man#4]

I asked, "With the upcoming roster changes you mentioned, will Wolverine still continue to lead this team?"

His response was, "As long as I'm involved with this book it will be Wolverine's team" (or something to that effect).


Thanks for the info RW. I have to admit though, I laughed out loud when I read the response to your question. This team has been anything BUT Wolverine's. As Mia has pointed out on several occasions, Wolverine has done little more than jump up and down and yell at people. I hope this is one of the things they improve on in future issues.

[rwsmith]

That's the point. He's used to operating solo and now he's forced into the position Cyclops has been in with him on all too many occasions (particularly with X-23 and trying to force her to operate as a team player).

It's a really fun twist to the normal dynamic, at least IMO, and I enjoy watching him try to lead this team of hot-heads and/or killer types.

[jarrod]

lol. The Feral smackdown makes me happy I didn't flood them with Rachel requests. Some things are better done in private.

[rwsmith]

Plus, how boring would it be if Wolverine was just a vanilla leader type like Captain America or something all of the sudden?

No, I appreciate his abusive, cynical leadership for what it is. Reminds me of like a crusty old drill seargeant or something.

[Majinoaw]

Thanks for the info RW. I have to admit though, I laughed out loud when I read the response to your question. This team has been anything BUT Wolverine's. As Mia has pointed out on several occasions, Wolverine has done little more than jump up and down and yell at people. I hope this is one of the things they improve on in future issues.

That's my main issue with the title. Logan is a terrible leader, when in other titles he's seen to do just fine. Logan has been a great leader to the X-Men in the past - and had been an excellent co-leader with Storm at one point.

[X-Man#4]

Plus, how boring would it be if Wolverine was just a vanilla leader type like Captain America or something all of the sudden?

No, I appreciate his abusive, cynical leadership for what it is. Reminds me of like a crusty old drill seargeant or something.


I have no problem with that at all. Of course I don't expet him to become a "Cyclops" all of a sudden, but at least have do something creditable, and don't depict him as a liability when in fact he is the team's greatest strength. Other chacter(s) are liabilities, but due to creative license, Wolverine is the one being downgraded. To each his own though.

[X-Man#4]

That's my main issue with the title. Logan is a terrible leader, when in other titles he's seen to do just fine. Logan has been a great leader to the X-Men in the past - and had been an excellent co-leader with Storm at one point.

Great minds think alike:wink: !

[Majinoaw]

That's the point. He's used to operating solo and now he's forced into the position Cyclops has been in with him on all too many occasions (particularly with X-23 and trying to force her to operate as a team player).

It's a really fun twist to the normal dynamic, at least IMO, and I enjoy watching him try to lead this team of hot-heads and/or killer types.

There are times when he has proven to be an effective leader. See Fall of the Mutants; and various issues throughout the Outback saga.

[AcesX1X]

x-man#4,

i would appreciate it if you reply to my post!


aces

[X-Man#4]

x-man#4,

i definitely agree with you on your point! i too have been looking forward to wither's story continuation for a while now. and seeing him and elixir face off (which i hope will happen) is something that i wait for eagerly. i feel this will only add to the spotlight that elixir has enjoyed since his introduction into this series.

best,

acesx1x

Apologies Aces, I must have missed it the first time around. I do look forward to Wither's story. He like some other poor characters, has suffred from a dearth of development. While I must disagree that Eliixir has enjoyed the spotlight (IMHO, he has merely served as bacground while a well-known other character enjoys the limelight), I am interested to see if this vaults him to the forefront of X-Force.

Regards,
X-Man#4

[rwsmith]

That's my main issue with the title. Logan is a terrible leader, when in other titles he's seen to do just fine. Logan has been a great leader to the X-Men in the past - and had been an excellent co-leader with Storm at one point.

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree then. I don't see how he's such a terrible leader, rather this team just keeps getting put into ridiculous situations where their specific powersets (claws, knives and guns mainly) are not as effective as having someone who can manipulate the weather, fire powerful optic blasts, telepathy, telekinesis, etc.

Remember, they were sent to kill Risman at first, then everything just snowballed on them. And, rather than assemble the entire X-men to deal with the growing threat of Bastion and his transmode virus infected army of mutant haters, Cyclops instead opted to keep X-Force secret and just let Wolverine and his squad deal with the threat. Then, on top of that, he teleported them away at the last minute to go and find his son in the future (when he really could've sent them at any time because Nathan and Hope would've always been at that particular point in time). So if anyone is to blame for the situations this team is put in being so bad, it's not the captain who is leading the troops in the field but rather the general who keeps putting them in those impossible situations and hindering their ability to accomplish their missions.

That's how I see it anyway.

So far they've managed to:

- track down Rahne and rescue her,
- kill Risman (their original mission),
- destroy the sample of the Legacy Virus that Cyclops sent them to destroy (he didn't know about the three other samples from Sinister's other labs that Bastion managed to secure),
- prevent Cable and Hope from getting killed in Bishop's future trap by he and Stryfe, and
- save Boomer by killing the Leper Queen (remains to be seen if Hellion and Surge will also be saved).

I'd say that's a pretty good track record for any leader, especially with all of the other curveballs that have been thrown their way throughout this series. Hell, his team has essentially accomplished every mission they've been given by Scott! Obviously X-23 played a huge role in accomplishing many of these missions (she killed both Risman and the Leper Queen), but when the star running back or wide receiver wins the game they can't do it without the coach (Cyclops) calling the plays and the quarterback (Wolverine) giving them the ball.

[rwsmith]

There are times when he has proven to be an effective leader. See Fall of the Mutants; and various issues throughout the Outback saga.

Like I said, I don't see him as being ineffective now considering the situations this team has been put in. But I like the contrast in his leadership style (harsh and cynical) versus someone like Cyclops or Captain America (calculating and optimistic). It's refreshing and fun, at least IMO, and I'm glad we're going to continue to see it develop over time. :cool:

[jarrod]

As much as I hate to say it, Logan's track record is turning out far better than Rogue's did.

Sorry Hi-Fi. :(

[Talisman]

Kyle and Yost should bring Storm in here. X-Treme X-Force 2.0

[jarrod]

Kyle and Yost should bring Storm in here. X-Treme X-Force 2.0
Imagine Mike/Sonia's The Arena II!

*ejaculates*

[rwsmith]

As much as I hate to say it, Logan's track record is turning out far better than Rogue's did.

Sorry Hi-Fi. :(

True, but she had even more difficult team members to deal with than Logan has (Sabretooth, Mystique, Lady Mastermind). Having said that, she chose her team while Wolverine did not.

[AcesX1X]

x-man#4,

thank you for responding to my post. we will just have to wait and see on wither's battle with elixir, but i have been pleased with elixir lately. he stands as the only voice of reason on this x-force, where his teammates are too involved/jaded/overwhelmed to do so in his place. he show his bravery through his protests. yet, he is also hardening and taking a more proactive stance. see his recent rescue of surge and hellion in most recent x-force. if anything, elixir is moving at a highly accelerated pace for a character who used to have all the personality of a cardboard box.


aces

[Dave13]

Apologies Aces, I must have missed it the first time around. I do look forward to Wither's story. He like some other poor characters, has suffred from a dearth of development. While I must disagree that Eliixir has enjoyed the spotlight (IMHO, he has merely served as bacground while a well-known other character enjoys the limelight), I am interested to see if this vaults him to the forefront of X-Force.

Regards,
X-Man#4

I agree with you on Elixir's Stance in X-force

[Azure]

x-man#4,

thank you for responding to my post. we will just have to wait and see on wither's battle with elixir, but i have been pleased with elixir lately. he stands as the only voice of reason on this x-force, where his teammates are too involved/jaded/overwhelmed to do so in his place. he show his bravery through his protests. yet, he is also hardening and taking a more proactive stance. see his recent rescue of surge and hellion in most recent x-force. if anything, elixir is moving at a highly accelerated pace for a character who used to have all the personality of a cardboard box.


aces

Well said. As far as I'm concerned, Elixir has become the breakout star of X-Force.

[Talisman]

Imagine Mike/Sonia's The Arena II!

*ejaculates*

With covers by Land!

*multi-ejaculates*

Okay this one is pure jest, but I'm liking this idea more and more

[jarrod]

True, but she had even more difficult team members to deal with than Logan has (Sabretooth, Mystique, Lady Mastermind). Having said that, she chose her team while Wolverine did not.
Sure. Though it should probably be said, her reasons for choosing those 3 was to get them outta the mansion and away from the kids. Rogue probably had tougher things thrown at her too, but then she had a far more powerful and versatile team as well.

[jarrod]

With covers by Land!

*multi-ejaculates*

Okay this one is pure jest, but I'm liking this idea more and more
lol!

But it needs Kitty Pryde to feel really complete...

[Talisman]

lol!

But it needs Kitty Pryde to feel really complete...
Of course. We need to keep things Kosher.

[RoguishGurl]

Well said. As far as I'm concerned, Elixir has become the breakout star of X-Force.
I must disagree and say that title belongs to Archangel. This is the most interesting Warren has been in a while and seeing him battle his demons is something that is wonderful to read.

[Talisman]

I must disagree and say that title belongs to Archangel. This is the most interesting Warren has been in a while and seeing him battle his demons is something that is wonderful to read.

Agreed. He has probably the one character who has benefited the most from being in X-Force. I look forward to him here month in and month out. Plus, he fights things other than a Godzilla clone.

[AcesX1X]

archangel also deserves much props. while elixir is moving at a rapid rate, archangel has done a complete 180 in personality with the return of his dark side. that is a welcome breath of fresh air from a character who has been stale for a very long time.

[rwsmith]

Yeah, Archangel has been awesome in this series IMO.

[AcesX1X]

can we also talk about how awesome domino is? i often feel as if she vocalizes some of the reactions i have as a reader. i love all her "WTFs" and dry humor.

[Talisman]

can we also talk about how awesome domino is? i often feel as if she vocalizes some of the reactions i have as a reader. i love all her "WTFs" and dry humor.
Yeah, she is the break-out female so far. I'd be fine if they got rid of Rahne and X and just left Dom as the sole female lead in this book.

[Azure]

Vanisher was a kinda boring villain until he was conscripted into X-Force. I really like the dark levity he brings into the series. He's grown into a full character, instead of another vaguely recognisable punching bag for the X-Men to pummel.

[Talisman]

Vanisher was a kinda boring villain until he was conscripted into X-Force. I really like the dark levity he brings into the series. He's grown into a full character, instead of another vaguely recognisable punching bag for the X-Men to pummel.
Crap! I forget about the hilarious hijinx he brings to this series! OKAY, I JUST LOVE EVERYONE IN THIS BOOK!!!

[X-Man#4]

can we also talk about how awesome domino is? i often feel as if she vocalizes some of the reactions i have as a reader. i love all her "WTFs" and dry humor.

While all the characters in X-Force are aswesome in their own right, I wish there was more room "on the stage" given to them so that they could shine. Alas, ther are only so many pages in a comic book....I trust you understand my frustration Aces.

Regards,
X-Man#4

[RoguishGurl]

Yeah, she is the break-out female so far. I'd be fine if they got rid of Rahne and X and just left Dom as the sole female lead in this book.

This made me want X-Force: Sex and Violence more. But I can be patient because Kyle and Yost promise that it will be amazing.

[AcesX1X]

i don't want anyone to leave this book.

i enjoy seeing x-23 as the star of the book.

i think wolverine fills a good role as frustrated wise-man in the art of murder.

archangel turning into a psychotic killer again doubles his depth and range.

domino is the bridge between the audience and the story itself.

i like seeing warpath learn to work on his mental strength and not just rely on his physical strength.

vanisher opens the door for dark comedy in a very gritty setting.

elixir retains his innocent nature while remaining the heart.

and i thoroughly love seeing wolfsbane's slow decline into absolute psychotic madness.

this is the best book in x-men.

[jarrod]

I've loved pretty much everyone *but* Warpath in X-Force. Jimmy still needs some tlc to get past Bru's Logan Jr. retrofit. And a haircut.

[Azure]

i don't want anyone to leave this book.

i enjoy seeing x-23 as the star of the book.

i think wolverine fills a good role as frustrated wise-man in the art of murder.

archangel turning into a psychotic killer again doubles his depth and range.

domino is the bridge between the audience and the story itself.

i like seeing warpath learn to work on his mental strength and not just rely on his physical strength.

vanisher opens the door for dark comedy in a very gritty setting.

elixir retains his innocent nature while remaining the heart.

and i thoroughly love seeing wolfsbane's slow decline into absolute psychotic madness.

this is the best book in x-men.

What about Boom Boom?!

[AcesX1X]

What about Boom Boom?!

boom boom's time to shine is only just beginning to dawn, azure. exercise some restraint.

[X-Man#4]

i enjoy seeing x-23 as the star of the book.


Aces,

So you think that X23 has been shown to be the "star of the book"? This will be news to many a poster on the X23 appreciation thread, who think that the writers have done a masterful job of making sure everyone "stars" equally and that there has been no favoritism. I thank you for expressing what many a raeder has been thinking.

Regards,
X-Man#4

[Talisman]

This made me want X-Force: Sex and Violence more. But I can be patient because Kyle and Yost promise that it will be amazing.
Me too! Beatrix is love♥
I've loved pretty much everyone *but* Warpath in X-Force. Jimmy still needs some tlc to get past Bru's Logan Jr. retrofit. And a haircut.
Yeah, not loving their take on Warpath, at didn't care for their take on the Demon Bear, either.

[Azure]

boom boom's time to shine is only just beginning to dawn, azure. exercise some restraint.

Sorry, I'm just really excited to see what's in store for Tabby. I was seriously worried when she died that one time.

[timbox]

Sorry, I'm just really excited to see what's in store for Tabby. I was seriously worried when she died that one time.

She is not safe yet.

[AcesX1X]

x-man#4,

on the contrary, i feel x-23's proper place is as the star of this book, but i must make concessions for the other characters. admittedly, i am biased towards x-23, and ultimately, having her be the only focus of this book would be detrimental. i am glad that is not currently the case, as, in my previous post you just quoted, i believe every teammate has been shown to bring something essential to the book.

that does not mean i cannot remain hopeful for more x-23 time.

thanks and best,

aces

[X-Man#4]

x-man#4,

on the contrary, i feel x-23's proper place is as the star of this book, but i must make concessions for the other characters. admittedly, i am biased towards x-23, and ultimately, having her be the only focus of this book would be detrimental. i am glad that is not currently the case, as, in my previous post you just quoted, i believe every teammate has been shown to bring something essential to the book.

that does not mean i cannot remain hopeful for more x-23 time.

thanks and best,

aces

My good Aces,

I fear that if X23 was made the focus any more than she is now, this book would devlolve into an X23 solo, which some would no doubt love. I am saddened that we must agree to disagree here. Best wishes for a nice day.

Regards,
X-Man#4

[Puunk]

Yost, Kyle, and Carey can handle the majority of the X-books.

I second this!

The X-Universe run by KY and Carey would be awesome.

[RoguishGurl]

I second this!

The X-Universe run by KY and Carey would be awesome.
Whenever I see them referred to as "KY", I giggle a little bit.

[Puunk]

Whenever I see them referred to as "KY", I giggle a little bit.

LOL.

It's just I don't like typing out "Kyle and Yost" when I could do what everyone does. I don't like referring to them as "C&C" 'cus ... sounds like the name of a diner to me ...

... really off-topic. >_>

[Personamanx]

How about YK?

[timbox]

How about Sway and Petra?

[Faded]

I've loved pretty much everyone *but* Warpath in X-Force. Jimmy still needs some tlc to get past Bru's Logan Jr. retrofit. And a haircut.

I agree--finally!--with you.

[George Tramountanas]

Hey all,

I just made a new thread as well, but...I haven't gotten any questions for PAD next week, and I need them ASAP. Don't just post them to me, email them to george@comicbookresources.com

Much appreciated!

[coconutphone]

I'm terrible at thinking of questions for these guys but I love reading the interviews :)

[Ratstar]

Me too! Beatrix is love♥

Yeah, not loving their take on Warpath, at didn't care for their take on the Demon Bear, either.

Really? I like him, maybe because I haven't read anything of him before Brubaker's Uncanny. But I liked how he faced the whole killing thing and seeing his brother come back should be interesting. The demon bear was entertaining if just a plot device. The highlight was his half of the Ain't No Dog one shot though (not actually written by K/Y, heheh).

[yanapryde]

I second this!

The X-Universe run by KY and Carey would be awesome.

I would prefer, much as I love them, that KY not be given the reigns to the New Mutants book, for fear of death and dismemberment.

Carey however could have a go. He writes a mean Cannonball.

[Dave13]

Well said. As far as I'm concerned, Elixir has become the breakout star of X-Force.

How Can a Character that has been basically background for the series been a Break out star?

[timbox]

How Can a Character that has been basically background for the series been a Break out star?

He is just that good.

[Dave13]

He is just that good.

Even i'm not that big a fan...maybe

[Puunk]

How about Sway and Petra?

Petra!

Not really a big fan on Sway, but Petra for sure.

[coveredinbees]

Even i'm not that big a fan...maybe
You are not wise to publically challenge timbox.

[timbox]

Even i'm not that big a fan...maybe

What kind of fan are you?

Petra!

Not really a big fan on Sway, but Petra for sure.

Even if Evelyn Lin is Sway?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e3/Evelyn_Lin_2.jpg/450px-Evelyn_Lin_2.jpg

[timbox]

You are not wise to publically challenge timbox.

Well done. Your first lesson is complete.

[Puunk]

Even if Evelyn Lin is Sway?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e3/Evelyn_Lin_2.jpg/450px-Evelyn_Lin_2.jpg

I love her already! She's stunning.

I did a Google search -> is she an actress/singer?

... and to keep in-topic, something in this interview interested me:

With the “Necrosha” event coming up soon, I'm sure we are going to see a ton of the kids that got blown up in the bus in “New X-Men” come back (like your favorite character, Tag). Does this mean that the kids that are still alive are going to be playing a big role in this event (like Surge, Mercury, Rockslide, etc.)? Also, are we going to see a Loa vs. zombie Wallflower fight over Elixir's affections? I would happily buy a mini of that!
YOST: So would I! But to your question – one of the people listed there is definitely going to be seen. Beyond that, we’re not going to restrict ourselves to characters that we’ve killed…as massive as that number is. There’s over forty years of great X-characters available to us. But, yeah, you may well see some of the kids you knew and loved like Tag and DJ – or maybe not. We’re not going to tell you right now, though.

---->"One of the people listed there is definately going to be seen." Tag or Wallflower. Most definately Wallflower. Awesome! I like that Yost also mentioned DJ, a minor student, completely out of the blue - gets me thinking he'll make an appearance as well.

[Dave13]

You are not wise to publically challenge timbox.

wow I was under the idea that my first 5 posts dispelled any belief that i was wise long ago but you're only now figuring it out?

[Pach!]

I love her already! She's stunning.

I did a Google search -> is she an actress/singer?

... and to keep in-topic, something in this interview interested me:

With the “Necrosha” event coming up soon, I'm sure we are going to see a ton of the kids that got blown up in the bus in “New X-Men” come back (like your favorite character, Tag). Does this mean that the kids that are still alive are going to be playing a big role in this event (like Surge, Mercury, Rockslide, etc.)? Also, are we going to see a Loa vs. zombie Wallflower fight over Elixir's affections? I would happily buy a mini of that!
YOST: So would I! But to your question – one of the people listed there is definitely going to be seen. Beyond that, we’re not going to restrict ourselves to characters that we’ve killed…as massive as that number is. There’s over forty years of great X-characters available to us. But, yeah, you may well see some of the kids you knew and loved like Tag and DJ – or maybe not. We’re not going to tell you right now, though.

---->"One of the people listed there is definately going to be seen." Tag or Wallflower. Most definately Wallflower. Awesome! I like that Yost also mentioned DJ, a minor student, completely out of the blue - gets me thinking he'll make an appearance as well.
Chris Yost knows absolutely all characters. Its kinda scary sometimes.

[Ratstar]

I hope they remember that most of the characters who died on the bus didn't have powers... Isn't Bard and Selene's main objective to use dead mutants?
But that's no where near the amount of souls she wanted from Rome...
*shrugs*

[Jack Flash]

I can't wait for Jean Grey to appear.

[Monty_Cristo]

Chris Yost knows absolutely all characters. Its kinda scary sometimes.

he hasn't mentioned Shortpack. i'm unimpressed.

[Jack Flash]

Chris Yost knows absolutely all characters. Its kinda scary sometimes.

have you shown him the Peace, Love, And Hope: Vincente thread yet?

[Azure]

Even i'm not that big a fan...maybe

I don't think I'm as big an Elixir fan as you are, Dave. You are #1.

[XaviersMisprint]

How Can a Character that has been basically background for the series been a Break out star?

UGH just go with it. This is your break, man.

[.LuckyStar.]

This thread is not about the stupidest, most obscure characters we can think of; it's about porno-face Sway and Petra.

Tim, I was looking through some old comics and I thought of you. Here's some porno-face Sway and Petra.

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/9804/sway02.png

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/5029/sway01.png

[timbox]

I uploaded this image about an hour ago:

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/3991/pornofacesway.jpg

[AcesX1X]

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/9804/sway02.png



this is my favorite petra and sway image!

[Dave13]

So would i be right in thinking that Timbox had something to do with the Sway and Petra question?

[SayOcean]

I liked it when petra was called Terra

[Bronze Badger]

I enjoyed seeing Petra in Wolverine and The X-Men.

[Dave13]

lol The LoaxElixir vs ElixirxLaurie comment was hilarious do people even believe that those two relationships are equal, Loa's just something to keep Josh occupied


And Yost pretty much confirms that Elixir is Safe

[jarrod]

I liked it when petra was called Terra
Terra's a better name. She'd have switched if she loved long enough. :(

[SayOcean]

Terra's a better name. She'd have switched if she loved long enough. :(LIVED LONG ENOUGH,

AND YOU KNOW I WAS COMPARING PETRA'S CHARACTER TO THAT OF DC'S TERRA, WHO WAS ANOTHER BLONDE GIRL WHO CONTROLS ROCK. i MEAN DAMN IS A DEAF BRUNETTE OR SOMETHING SO HARD TO ASK FOR

[Grunty]

Chris Yost knows absolutely all characters. Its kinda scary sometimes.

Or he knows at least thos characters which appeared in the titles he wrote.

After all you can't write around anymore and when someone ask about a character related to the series you are writing answer it with: "I don't know who that person is supposed to be?".

Since in the time of the internet people can simply counter with "you are to lazy to read the history of that series on wikipedia?"

[Anna]

I love her already! She's stunning.

I did a Google search -> is she an actress/singer?

... and to keep in-topic, something in this interview interested me:

With the “Necrosha” event coming up soon, I'm sure we are going to see a ton of the kids that got blown up in the bus in “New X-Men” come back (like your favorite character, Tag). Does this mean that the kids that are still alive are going to be playing a big role in this event (like Surge, Mercury, Rockslide, etc.)? Also, are we going to see a Loa vs. zombie Wallflower fight over Elixir's affections? I would happily buy a mini of that!
YOST: So would I! But to your question – one of the people listed there is definitely going to be seen. Beyond that, we’re not going to restrict ourselves to characters that we’ve killed…as massive as that number is. There’s over forty years of great X-characters available to us. But, yeah, you may well see some of the kids you knew and loved like Tag and DJ – or maybe not. We’re not going to tell you right now, though.

---->"One of the people listed there is definately going to be seen." Tag or Wallflower. Most definately Wallflower. Awesome! I like that Yost also mentioned DJ, a minor student, completely out of the blue - gets me thinking he'll make an appearance as well.


Why bother resurrecting depowereds?

[Hakael]

Why bother resurrecting depowereds?

Agreed, no real point there.

[Hakael]

I can see you lurking, YOST.

How's Chicago going? And will we see more of Hellion and Surge in X-Force after this next issue?

[Quinnhop]

Answer! Answer! Answer!

[Hakael]

I think I missed him... he'll be back.

[Chris Yost]

They're in 19, I think, but nothing major. Don't think they're in 20.

The whole X-universe is in 21, I think.

Chicago is insane. Lot of X-Force love in chi-town.

c

[Robbiebob_16]

They're in 19, I think, but nothing major. Don't think they're in 20.

The whole X-universe is in 21, I think.

Chicago is insane. Lot of X-Force love in chi-town.

c
Great to hear from you! Issue 21 you say? Can't wait. By the way, I'm stoked for Wither in 18. The previews look amazing!

[Quinnhop]

They're in 19, I think, but nothing major. Don't think they're in 20.

The whole X-universe is in 21, I think.

Chicago is insane. Lot of X-Force love in chi-town.

c

Oooooh, I'm excited for every foreseeable issue.

[Hakael]

They're in 19, I think, but nothing major. Don't think they're in 20.

The whole X-universe is in 21, I think.

Chicago is insane. Lot of X-Force love in chi-town.

c

YAY!

Can't wait. 21 certainly sounds big.

[Dave13]

So I'm guessing they'll help get Laura back in this little mini arc So cool with their offensive powers

[Hakael]

So I'm guessing they'll help get Laura back in this little mini arc So cool with their offensive powers

While I hoped this to be the case, somehow I doubt it. They'll probably be sent back to SF to be mind wiped by the Cuckoos before they can ask questions.

[4sake]

mind wiped by the Cuckoos before they can ask questions.

I hope not

[4sake]

They're in 19, I think, but nothing major. Don't think they're in 20.

The whole X-universe is in 21, I think.

Chicago is insane. Lot of X-Force love in chi-town.

c

Can't wait :cool: