For a cartoon called "Wolverine and the X-Men"... [Archive]

Robbiebob_16

08-05-2009, 05:37 PM

My little brother is INSANE about it and I've loved the episodes I've seen. But they tried way too hard to make Cyclops look "badass".

And I didn't like them turning Madrox and Psylocke into baddies....:mad:
Same here, in all honestly though, the show is great. I really like the core team, and surprisingly Wolverine isn't always the star of the show which is very refreshing. I love Gambit too! I really thought they nailed the character! And he didn't speak in the third person which is wonderful...

Free-Man

08-05-2009, 05:46 PM

Same here, in all honestly though, the show is great. I really like the core team, and surprisingly Wolverine isn't always the star of the show which is very refreshing. I love Gambit too! I really thought they nailed the character! And he didn't speak in the third person which is wonderful...

Yeah, the title of "Wolverine and the X-Men" was a great marketing decision. This is probably the largest X-Men cast ever, yet they made sure to highlight the name of the one with the blockbuster film out this year.

It's kinda like the Batman: Brave and the Bold cartoon. They really use it to introduce kids to a lot of lesser known superheroes, but they make sure to lure them in with the name BATMAN.

So kudos to Marvel and DC for finally marketing more than the same three characters!

The Big G

08-05-2009, 05:48 PM

I've not seen a huge amount of it but I love all the new xmen cameos

Yeah; in the first episode its got Rockslide and Dust.

Though they've yet to have Julian and Laura interact.

Illmatik

08-05-2009, 05:58 PM

When I first saw the trailers for Wolverine and the X-Men, I thought it would be horrible like X-Men Evolution. A few episodes in, and I'm actually enjoying it, surprisingly.

I don't think anything will ever be as good as the '90s X-Men series, though.

Supercoolshay

08-05-2009, 06:07 PM

Yeah; in the first episode its got Rockslide and Dust.

Though they've yet to have Julian and Laura interact.

They do towards the end of the season. Only it doesn't count. Cause she and all three of her clones are hanging out and he's just standing there. It's like one of the last 2 episodes.

crimsondiablo

08-05-2009, 06:12 PM

The Big G

08-05-2009, 06:27 PM

They do towards the end of the season. Only it doesn't count. Cause she and all three of her clones are hanging out and he's just standing there. It's like one of the last 2 episodes.

Then he gets his own personal harem of Laura clones

Lintu

08-05-2009, 06:30 PM

I'm surprised this is the most bad ass I've ever seen Cyclops be.

Yes but i wnder what he will be like in season 2, and for cartoon with wolverine in its name he gets no loving.

Supercoolshay

08-05-2009, 06:36 PM

Then he gets his own personal harem of Laura clones

I'm glad you think that Laura is just Julian's sex toy. :rolleyes:

On a side note, I was watching this in Mexico in Spanish and whenever Bishop said Hellion it was the the funniest thing ever.

Free-Man

08-05-2009, 06:47 PM

shades of eternity

08-05-2009, 06:49 PM

yeah so looking forward to the next season , when we get AoA :evilsmile:

rwsmith

08-05-2009, 07:00 PM

It's also surprising that the episodes focused on the main character are some of the most flawed ones, unlike in Evolution in which Wolverine had some great episodes.

Flawed how? The Hulk and Wendigo one was great, as was the second one with Maverick and Sabretooth (the first episode featuring the two of them was mediocre, I admit). :confused:

coveredinbees

08-05-2009, 07:02 PM

Wanda is super, but Mystique is not. I hate Storm's hair and Kitty.

Justin K.

08-05-2009, 07:09 PM

My little brother is INSANE about it and I've loved the episodes I've seen. But they tried way too hard to make Cyclops look "badass".

And I didn't like them turning Madrox and Psylocke into baddies....:mad:

Madrox being bad isn't a bad thing, his powers seem right for being both good and bad.
I would love to see this trio make an appearance in the show though...

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/justinkos91/VillainousTrio.jpg

Free-Man

08-05-2009, 07:14 PM

I would love to see this trio make an appearance in the show though...

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/justinkos91/VillainousTrio.jpg

You read my F'ing mind!! I'm always disappointed that neither the 90's series or Evolution ever featured the Cassidy family.

I had heard Deadpool was schedualed to appear this season, so maybe there's hope....

Justin K.

08-05-2009, 07:18 PM

You read my F'ing mind!! I'm always disappointed that neither the 90's series or Evolution ever featured the Cassidy family.

I had heard Deadpool was schedualed to appear this season, so maybe there's hope....

If madrox is a villain in the cartoon, why not Terry, she started off that way.
Juggernaut hasn't appeared yet either, he's pretty major.
Hope to see Black Tom and Banshee though...

Robbiebob_16

08-05-2009, 08:57 PM

I'm glad you think that Laura is just Julian's sex toy. :rolleyes:

On a side note, I was watching this in Mexico in Spanish and whenever Bishop said Hellion it was the the funniest thing ever.
yea, when I watched it in Spanish it was pretty funny. Quiksilver sounded like a such a d-bag in Spanish. And Domino sounded like Salma Hayek!

biscuit

08-05-2009, 09:03 PM

Why, do you have a problem with trenchcoats and seedy motel rooms??? hmmm??!!:biggrin:

I loooooove the trenchcoat on Cyk. I wish he would wear it in the comics. I also loved the look he gave Emma when he first saw her.

Mia

08-05-2009, 09:13 PM

Im loving this show, I being a huge Cyclops fan feel conflicted on his attitude, but I do understand it makes him more appealing to newer fans. I do hope with how focused he's been on finding Jean, and how callous Logan has been to finding her, We'll see Scott and Jean reunite in some media. With all the cameos in this show it may be the best yet. Maverick, X-23, Sammy the Squid-boy!!!!!!

If you've seen the whole season, then you'll understand why he behaves the way he does. Personally I find him more believable and sympathetic in that show than I do in the books.

MIMIC616

08-05-2009, 09:20 PM

Replace Loner Wolverine insert Loner Cyclops.

Replace Leader Cyclops insert Leader Wolverine.

Not much of a change in characters or stories.

Same issues with Cyclops love with Jean and Emma.

coveredinbees

08-05-2009, 09:31 PM

Replace Loner Wolverine insert Loner Cyclops.

Replace Leader Cyclops insert Leader Wolverine.

Not much of a change in characters or stories.

Same issues with Cyclops love with Jean and Emma.
They traded the dead ones, too. I was suprised when she died. But I think the real suprise was that I was sad.Is that a spoiler? Sorry. I forgot it's not finished in some places.

Grunty

08-05-2009, 09:33 PM

Flawed how? The Hulk and Wendigo one was great, as was the second one with Maverick and Sabretooth (the first episode featuring the two of them was mediocre, I admit). :confused:

Okay Flawed is maybe a bit to harsh, but i consider them to be more or less averange.

I admit the Hulk one was okay and so was the Maverick one. However his fight with Sabertooth was extremly lame.
Don't get me wrong, i don't demand direct wounds and blood ala Hulk vs. Wolverine, but i want to see at least both scratching each other (as in cutting their clothes) or narrowly missing.
After all it worked with Mystique in her first appearance, were Wolverine slizes across her chest (while she was inpersonating Xavier) leaving visible cuts in the clothes.
However Sabertooth just blocking the blades and then pulling a liefeldian sized taser from nowhere (serisouly if he was hiding that giant thing under his coat it should have created a visible bulge) just looked to silly.

In the end i just don't consider any of Wolverine's solo episodes in this show to be really great, while the best ones are those not focused on him directly.

Let me guess you only saw the series on Nicktoons so far?

In the end it's purely my personaly oppinion and if you love certain episodes, which i dislike, than it's just this way.

Mia

08-05-2009, 09:39 PM

Replace Loner Wolverine insert Loner Cyclops.

Replace Leader Cyclops insert Leader Wolverine.

Not much of a change in characters or stories.

Same issues with Cyclops love with Jean and Emma.

I disagree, Emma never threw herself at Cyclops the way she did in the book. Second Cyclops never showed any interest in Emma, he was completely preocupied by Jeans abscence and how to get her back. This is way different from the books.

I can't speak much to the Wolverine part, as I am not completely 100% atuned to everything that happened in Wolverine's past. But from what I have read when Wolverine showed up at Xaviers. He was some complete Hellsangel Motorcycle driving thug out to cause trouble. I don't see that being the case with Cyclops in X&XM, where Scott is more torn up by the disapearance of his girlfiriend and the fact that they parted under less than stellar circumstances.

fortyseven

08-05-2009, 09:50 PM

I love Wolverine and the X-Men and I can't wait for the next season to come out!
It would just be that much better if they put Scott and Logan back into their proper roles. I know Wolverine is more marketable and everything, but I think they should switch it back to the way it should be. I don't like the fact that Logan is giving orders to Scott, and that Xavier wants him too.

Faded

08-05-2009, 09:51 PM

I like the set-up because it forces Cyclops into a position of not being teacher's pet/beloved leader and puts Wolverine in an uncomfortable role for him as leader and gatherer.

Its a good status quo and I would love to see it in the comics.

Supercoolshay

08-06-2009, 05:20 AM

yea, when I watched it in Spanish it was pretty funny. Quiksilver sounded like a such a d-bag in Spanish. And Domino sounded like Salma Hayek!

Seriously! I was thinking the exact same thing. I swore it was Salma Hayek, then my roommate told me I was wrong and I dropped it. And Quicksilver sound extra douche baggey. I watched it in Spanish before I watched in English and when I finally saw it in English. It just wasn't as "bad" y'know.

But Bishop's spanish voice over = best spanish voice over on an X-cartoon ever!

Free-Man

08-06-2009, 07:27 AM

Seriously! I was thinking the exact same thing. I swore it was Salma Hayek, then my roommate told me I was wrong and I dropped it. And Quicksilver sound extra douche baggey. I watched it in Spanish before I watched in English and when I finally saw it in English. It just wasn't as "bad" y'know.

But Bishop's spanish voice over = best spanish voice over on an X-cartoon ever!

Hell, it couldn't be worse than his English voice over. IT could only go up from there.

Naira K

08-06-2009, 08:40 AM

I've been a huge X-men Evolution fan growing up, but Wolverine and The X-Men is so much better. I just wish for more character personality and less Wolverine.

rwsmith

08-06-2009, 09:21 AM

Okay Flawed is maybe a bit to harsh, but i consider them to be more or less averange.

I admit the Hulk one was okay and so was the Maverick one. However his fight with Sabertooth was extremly lame.
Don't get me wrong, i don't demand direct wounds and blood ala Hulk vs. Wolverine, but i want to see at least both scratching each other (as in cutting their clothes) or narrowly missing.
After all it worked with Mystique in her first appearance, were Wolverine slizes across her chest (while she was inpersonating Xavier) leaving visible cuts in the clothes.
However Sabertooth just blocking the blades and then pulling a liefeldian sized taser from nowhere (serisouly if he was hiding that giant thing under his coat it should have created a visible bulge) just looked to silly.

In the end i just don't consider any of Wolverine's solo episodes in this show to be really great, while the best ones are those not focused on him directly.

Let me guess you only saw the series on Nicktoons so far?

In the end it's purely my personaly oppinion and if you love certain episodes, which i dislike, than it's just this way.

Yeah, I've only seen it on Nicktoons thus far. I'll keep watching, but I've thought the Wolverine-centric ones were fine. My least favorite one was the Nightcrawler one with Spiral and Mojo (*snore*).

Free-Man

08-06-2009, 09:42 AM

Yeah, I've only seen it on Nicktoons thus far. I'll keep watching, but I've thought the Wolverine-centric ones were fine. My least favorite one was the Nightcrawler one with Spiral and Mojo (*snore*).

You too, eh? I thought the episode had some fun cameos and such, but it was a snore.

My one major complaint with the show though is that I don't like some of the voice acting.

spangley_special

08-06-2009, 10:17 AM

Yeah; in the first episode its got Rockslide and Dust.

Though they've yet to have Julian and Laura interact.

plus mercury is some random guard at genosha and julian's a future xman :smile:

Robbiebob_16

08-06-2009, 10:54 AM

Seriously! I was thinking the exact same thing. I swore it was Salma Hayek, then my roommate told me I was wrong and I dropped it. And Quicksilver sound extra douche baggey. I watched it in Spanish before I watched in English and when I finally saw it in English. It just wasn't as "bad" y'know.

But Bishop's spanish voice over = best spanish voice over on an X-cartoon ever!
Thank god it wasn't me going crazy!!:biggrin: and Bishop? Best voice ever. Agreed.

Robbiebob_16

08-06-2009, 10:56 AM

I loooooove the trenchcoat on Cyk. I wish he would wear it in the comics. I also loved the look he gave Emma when he first saw her.
I like the trench too...:redface: And you could tell the intial contempt for Emma would soon give way to attraction. It was perfection!

BBeeryan

08-06-2009, 02:30 PM

I love the cartoon. But I don't honestly like Cyclops portrayal.
They did seem to make hm kinda whiney. I thought that was one of Jean's characteristics.

FeminineMystique

08-06-2009, 03:46 PM

For a cartoon called Wolverine and the X-men, I'm surprised by how few teenage girl sidekicks are featured....:tongue:

There was an episode where its revealed Wolverine is keeping Kitty Pryde, Pixie, Jubilee, Armour and X-23 as his personal scantily clad harem. He enters with a pimp cane, ten gallon hat and platform shoes, then threatens to put on his rings before demanding they get their fine selves to the bedroom to get nasty

Unfortunately the episode was deem "Obscene" "Twisted" and "Clearly the work of an unstable mind".

The rejection letter sent to me after I pitched the episode remains one of my treasured possesions. I like how C&C dotted the I's on "Maniac" with little hearts:redface:

yanapryde

08-06-2009, 04:06 PM

FeminineMystique

08-06-2009, 04:12 PM

Wolverine and the X-Men is sensational!

The Nightcrawler / Wanda episode?! Fantastic!
Dystopian Future with Hellion as a rebel mutant!? Excellent!

Season 2 with AoA?? THRILLING!
Inclusion of Havok, Deadpool and MAGIK!!? Wishes do come true!

Domino is my favourite character without a doubt. And not just because she gives me so many chances for shipping:biggrin:

Free-Man

08-06-2009, 04:13 PM

Wolverine and the X-Men is sensational!

The Nightcrawler / Wanda episode?! Fantastic!
Dystopian Future with Hellion as a rebel mutant!? Excellent!

Season 2 with AoA?? THRILLING!
Inclusion of Havok, Deadpool and MAGIK!!? Wishes do come true!

Oohh! Is Illy really gonna be in? It had better not be a brief cameo like her brother!

yanapryde

08-06-2009, 04:20 PM

Oohh! Is Illy really gonna be in? It had better not be a brief cameo like her brother!

Well ALLEGEDLY.....
Colossus is going to have a larger role in the show....and my guess...nay...MY HOPE...is that Magik will be a major player in an episode involving her brother.
If not a recurring role on the show (unlikely but I can dream)

Free-Man

08-06-2009, 04:24 PM

Well ALLEGEDLY.....
Colossus is going to have a larger role in the show....and my guess...nay...MY HOPE...is that Magik will be a major player in an episode involving her brother.
If not a recurring role on the show (unlikely but I can dream)

Well, they seem to have a lot of young characters hanging around. Maybe they'll do some sort of New Mutants/Gen X/New X-Men-type team?

And I know it's a slim hope seeing as how Emma "bought it" at the end of last season, but I hope they do some sort of flashback to her other group of students at the Massachussets Acadmey.

yanapryde

08-06-2009, 04:26 PM

Well, they seem to have a lot of young characters hanging around. Maybe they'll do some sort of New Mutants/Gen X/New X-Men-type team?

And I know it's a slim hope seeing as how Emma "bought it" at the end of last season, but I hope they do some sort of flashback to her other group of students at the Massachussets Acadmey.

On no my dear jamesfreeman! Its been confirmed that Emma will be returning.
In what capacity, like Magik, we are unsure of yet.

NewMutant

08-06-2009, 04:31 PM

On no my dear jamesfreeman! Its been confirmed that Emma will be returning.
In what capacity, like Magik, we are unsure of yet.

Where was it confirmed that Emma will be back?

creaky

08-06-2009, 04:39 PM

I wonder how the average kid who sees the cartoon is going to view the X-men? The opinions I've read all seem to be from adults who grew up with the comics. Do kids even read comics these days? How familiar are they with the X-men?

yanapryde

08-06-2009, 04:50 PM

Where was it confirmed that Emma will be back?

I got it off a link on Chris Yost's blog.
I believe it sent me to a CBR article or NEWSARAMA maybe?
I forgot and apologize.

Ratstar

08-06-2009, 05:14 PM

Death where Phoenix of all things is involved doesn't mean shit :)

I wonder how the average kid who sees the cartoon is going to view the X-men? The opinions I've read all seem to be from adults who grew up with the comics. Do kids even read comics these days? How familiar are they with the X-men?
It's all about the merchandise and marketing really. Kids love Ben 10, which had good marketing and a lot of merchandise from the start. Dunno about the US but WATXM didn't have any advertising or merchandise here, just a late afternoon slot on a satellite channel, and now a morning slot in the holidays on a main channel during the childrens block.

Bic

08-06-2009, 05:59 PM

While I love the show I'm enjoying the commentary on the DVD's even more. Any commentary track that notes the importance of building a secret escape hatch into the floor of your evil robot factory just in case the X-Men show up is okay in my book.

It's all about the merchandise and marketing really. Kids love Ben 10, which had good marketing and a lot of merchandise from the start. Dunno about the US but WATXM didn't have any advertising or merchandise here, just a late afternoon slot on a satellite channel, and now a morning slot in the holidays on a main channel during the childrens block.
While I don't know how much advertising the show is getting aren't the X-Men pretty much ubiquitous at this point? There have been X-Men cartoons, toys, movies and video games for nearly twenty years now so I would hope they would have a bit of a hold in popular culture by now. How do you introduce something that has been mainstream longer than the younger viewers of the show have been alive?

yanapryde

08-06-2009, 06:00 PM

While I love the show I'm enjoying the commentary on the DVD's even more. Any commentary track that notes the importance of building a secret escape hatch into the floor of your evil robot factory just in case the X-Men show up is okay in my book.

While I don't know how much advertising the show is getting aren't the X-Men pretty much ubiquitous at this point? There have been X-Men cartoons, toys, movies and video games for nearly twenty years now so I would hope they would have a bit of a hold in popular culture by now. How do you introduce something that has been mainstream longer than the younger viewers of the show have been alive?

That little bit at the end of your posts about black people and gay people is hilarious.
I'm a gay.
Hilarious.

Leogam

08-06-2009, 06:05 PM

all the costumes were hideous, they should hire a fashion designer or something to come up with some stylish outfits and costumes

Free-Man

08-06-2009, 06:06 PM

While I don't know how much advertising the show is getting aren't the X-Men pretty much ubiquitous at this point? There have been X-Men cartoons, toys, movies and video games for nearly twenty years now so I would hope they would have a bit of a hold in popular culture by now. How do you introduce something that has been mainstream longer than the younger viewers of the show have been alive?

That's what I think. It's on a cable spinoff of Nicolodean in the states, and it's pretty heavily advertised on the Nick channels.

Plus, I believe at comi-con that Yost said that the ratings for the Nicktoons Network were like 200% higher since X-Men and Iron Man started.

WWWD

08-06-2009, 06:20 PM

You read my F'ing mind!! I'm always disappointed that neither the 90's series or Evolution ever featured the Cassidy family.

A Phoenix Saga episode included both Banshee and Black Tom as well.

Free-Man

08-06-2009, 06:33 PM

A Phoenix Saga episode included both Banshee and Black Tom as well.

You're right, I completely forgot about that. I shoulda just said Siryn.

yanapryde

08-06-2009, 06:34 PM

You're right, I completely forgot about that. I shoulda just said Siryn.

Oh and since the Irish were brought up...
Banshee is a playable character in the new Marvel Vs. Capcom game...
I'm no gamer but my buddy told me that the other day.

Grunty

08-06-2009, 06:57 PM

Death where Phoenix of all things is involved doesn't mean shit :)

Especialy if you look closely at her "death scene", when her diamond form breaks appart there is a human figure visibly inside the phoenix for a few seconds.
*hint hint*.

Justin K.

08-06-2009, 07:01 PM

Robbiebob_16

08-06-2009, 08:05 PM

There was an episode where its revealed Wolverine is keeping Kitty Pryde, Pixie, Jubilee, Armour and X-23 as his personal scantily clad harem. He enters with a pimp cane, ten gallon hat and platform shoes, then threatens to put on his rings before demanding they get their fine selves to the bedroom to get nasty

Unfortunately the episode was deem "Obscene" "Twisted" and "Clearly the work of an unstable mind".

The rejection letter sent to me after I pitched the episode remains one of my treasured possesions. I like how C&C dotted the I's on "Maniac" with little hearts:redface:
HAHA! Well they might have rejected that treat:frown: , but we all know why Logan had to clone five Lauras...:rolleyes:
By the way, Keep that pimp hand strong, gurrrlll!

Last_Avenger

08-06-2009, 08:23 PM

My favorite part about the cartoon is Kyle and Yost are some of the writers for it.

KwameKamikaze

08-06-2009, 09:59 PM

HAHA! Well they might have rejected that treat:frown: , but we all know why Logan had to clone five Lauras...:rolleyes:
By the way, Keep that pimp hand strong, gurrrlll!

Ew him with Laura is basically incest... or masturbation since he's basically he's having sex with himself, I haven't decided.

The Big G

08-06-2009, 11:28 PM

HAHA! Well they might have rejected that treat:frown: , but we all know why Logan had to clone five Lauras...:rolleyes:
By the way, Keep that pimp hand strong, gurrrlll!

Julian wishes he had five lauras; they also double as body guards and make good as rescuers since he's always getting captured.

Grunty

08-07-2009, 05:19 AM

Julian wishes he had five lauras; they also double as body guards and make good as rescuers since he's always getting captured.

Which is most likely the reason they left him behind before the final battle against Master Mold.

Robbiebob_16

08-07-2009, 06:16 PM

Ew him with Laura is basically incest... or masturbation since he's basically he's having sex with himself, I haven't decided.
Yea, now that I think it over more it bothers me a bit. I guess it's more like masturbation if i had to guess.

Julian wishes he had five lauras; they also double as body guards and make good as rescuers since he's always getting captured.
Lord knows that crazy boy needs the help!:rolleyes:

Joe Prevost

08-07-2009, 07:59 PM

HAHA! Well they might have rejected that treat:frown: , but we all know why Logan had to clone five Lauras...:rolleyes:
By the way, Keep that pimp hand strong, gurrrlll!

Isn't she, like, sixteen and he's, like, old?

4sake

08-07-2009, 09:41 PM

Isn't she, like, sixteen and he's, like, old?

i'd say at least 17/18

tunasammiches

08-08-2009, 12:23 AM

Just finished watching the entire series. IMO, it was pretty MEH. From repositioning Wolvie to be the leader—which just comes across to me as a strategic marketing tactic due to consumer response to the character— to the half assed, almost non-existent characterizations, to the awful voice acting. The animation was it's saving grace (not as good as Evolution but not as bad as the 90's cartoon), but the Wolvie-centric stories were so boring. Lots of plots going on, and no real characterization at all. The writing was pretty one-note. No ups and downs, just a lot of the same (bleak future, bleak present, yadda yadda yadda)

I'm pretty disappointed in the overall outcome. That's saying a lot because I'm a huge fan of Yost and Kyle. I think their NXM, XF, and especially what they did with X-Men Evolution was amazing. They were able to pull off more in that series than this one. W&TXM seemed like half-borrowed stories from the comics and totally watered down for the tv show. Which I guess is fine, since it's for kids. But maybe it's cause we've already seen Yost and Kyle run with the super apocolyptic mutant stories that I'm kinda bored with this series. I feel like they ran with the same energy they started NXM, since it was so well recieved by the fans, and adapted it for this cartoon. (Which, like Wolverine's claws in a fight scene, doesn't work as well, since again, this is a NickToons production)

Nightcrawler looked awesome, the episode showing the original 5 was fun, and Wolvie's arms were drawn nicely. Forge was actually my favorite character. Those were the main ups for me with this series.

So what is supposed to happen for season 2 now? AoA? Are they really gonna continue with Xavier running dispatch from the future for another 22 episodes? Wow. How lame.

coveredinbees

08-08-2009, 12:24 AM

I liked Domino's voice.

Robbiebob_16

08-08-2009, 05:44 AM

Isn't she, like, sixteen and he's, like, old?
Yea, there's this joke from the creepiest X-men thread that Wolverine likes to gallavant about with young girls. Kitty, Jubilee... It's probably not that creepy, but I guess posters really read into it.:redface:

FeminineMystique

08-08-2009, 09:27 AM

HAHA! Well they might have rejected that treat:frown: , but we all know why Logan had to clone five Lauras...:rolleyes:
By the way, Keep that pimp hand strong, gurrrlll!

Oh believe me I will:biggrin:

And yes, Logan's Laura harem is an open secret among the X-Men. Occasionally Warren or Emma have their rich friends join in, which is where the X-Men keep getting all their money from:evilsmile:

Jets and super computers don't come cheap!

Ew him with Laura is basically incest... or masturbation since he's basically he's having sex with himself, I haven't decided.

That's how Logan excuses it

Isn't she, like, sixteen and he's, like, old?

Things like the age of consent don't apply to mutants. Just ask Collossus ;)

Robbiebob_16

08-08-2009, 09:47 AM

Oh believe me I will:biggrin:

And yes, Logan's Laura harem is an open secret among the X-Men. Occasionally Warren or Emma have their rich friends join in, which is where the X-Men keep getting all their money from:evilsmile:

Jets and super computers don't come cheap!

That's how Logan excuses it

Things like the age of consent don't apply to mutants. Just ask Collossus ;)
So that's where the money comes from!! hmmmm....Well, that's one way to justify the creepy nature of it:evilsmile:

FeminineMystique

08-08-2009, 10:22 AM

So that's where the money comes from!! hmmmm....Well, that's one way to justify the creepy nature of it:evilsmile:

Wolverine is the Amber Alert from hell. Can you imagine the guys at "To catch a predator" trying to deal with him? :eek:

And yes, at the very least the Legion of Laura's (I'm so patenting that name:tongue: ) are helping the X-Men fight for the good of mutants everywhere. Or at least the good of mutants who they like

FeminineMystique

08-08-2009, 10:30 AM

Gah, double post. Sorry

CmX

08-08-2009, 01:35 PM

So I'm really behind everyone here, but I finally got to see the first three episodes of this series. The art is a lot nicer than it appears from just seeing screen shots these past few months. The storyline is good too, although I know it's aimed at children but the violence is really toned down. Anytime someone is hit or something explodes they make sure to make it clear that everyone survived and nobody was severely hurt lol "Avalanche destroyed empty warehouses" Thank God! I was worried someone was killed! How considerate of Avalanche.

Other than those minor gripes, the cameos are nice and the voice acting is pretty good. Kitty doesn't annoy me either, which is good cause normally I like her dead.

Free-Man

08-08-2009, 01:39 PM

The storyline is good too, although I know it's aimed at children but the violence is really toned down. Anytime someone is hit or something explodes they make sure to make it clear that everyone survived and nobody was severely hurt lol "Avalanche destroyed empty warehouses" Thank God! I was worried someone was killed! How considerate of Avalanche.

The problem is, I don't get why the violence is so toned out. There was plenty of killing in the X-Men films, and let's be honest, most of the viewers of WATXM are probably fans because of those movies.

And yet anime shown in the US tends to have far laxer editing on violence. For example, the show Naruto has "digital blood reduction" but the death is still all there. Major characters are still allowed to kill and die.

Why aren't American cartoons allowed this luxory?

creaky

08-08-2009, 01:52 PM

Yea, there's this joke from the creepiest X-men thread that Wolverine likes to gallavant about with young girls. Kitty, Jubilee... It's probably not that creepy, but I guess posters really read into it.:redface:

Well, there was that scene where he was walking around naked and Kitty and Jubilee were admiring his package. I don't even think it was Austen-written.

Parch

08-08-2009, 02:01 PM

CmX

08-08-2009, 02:05 PM

So the US is just starting to get this? It's been on in Canada for quite awhile now.

The violence might be toned down compared to the movies, but I think the storylines are quite complex compared to most cartoons. It's not just a kid's show and I would consider it more "grown up" than any of the other superhero cartoons.

I know it premiered pretty much every before the U.S. finally got it, I think it's been out since January? I'm not sure, but I happened to run across the first DVD a week ago for only $3, brand new and sealed so I bought it lol

FeminineMystique

08-08-2009, 02:16 PM

Well, there was that scene where he was walking around naked and Kitty and Jubilee were admiring his package. I don't even think it was Austen-written.

Kitty and Jubilee have both seen it up close on many dark, sweaty, shameful nights. As has Pixie and Armour now they've been initiated as his "Sidekicks".

Daniel Mengsk

08-08-2009, 02:33 PM

Kitty and Jubilee have both seen it up close on many dark, sweaty, shameful nights. As has Pixie and Armour now they've been initiated as his "Sidekicks".

Oh FemiMyst. :biggrin:

<3

FeminineMystique

08-08-2009, 02:35 PM

Oh FemiMyst. :biggrin:

I horrify myself sometimes. Horrify and amaze

Which incidentally is also what Wolverine's package does to his "Sidekicks":tongue: :wink: (Jubilee couldn't sit down for a week. It's why she kept those roller blades on, to have an excuse)

Robbiebob_16

08-08-2009, 05:51 PM

Wolverine is the Amber Alert from hell. Can you imagine the guys at "To catch a predator" trying to deal with him? :eek:

And yes, at the very least the Legion of Laura's (I'm so patenting that name:tongue: ) are helping the X-Men fight for the good of mutants everywhere. Or at least the good of mutants who they like
Legion of Laura=copyrighted for life. I can just imagine Logan being busted with Mike's Hard Lemonade and asking where the girl as he's being led away.

Well, there was that scene where he was walking around naked and Kitty and Jubilee were admiring his package. I don't even think it was Austen-written.
I remember that! I think it will go down in CBR infamy. The discussion on the thread was interesting to say the least!:biggrin:

Kitty and Jubilee have both seen it up close on many dark, sweaty, shameful nights. As has Pixie and Armour now they've been initiated as his "Sidekicks".
FemMys you frighten me.....and I like it.

Grunty

08-08-2009, 06:30 PM

I horrify myself sometimes. Horrify and amaze

Which incidentally is also what Wolverine's package does to his "Sidekicks":tongue: :wink: (Jubilee couldn't sit down for a week. It's why she kept those roller blades on, to have an excuse)

Okay, here is where the jokes end.
Sorry, but i just think that this is something you shouldn't do jokes about.

She was only 15 or 13 (depending on the writer) when she was Wolverine's sidekick.

FeminineMystique

08-08-2009, 07:27 PM

Legion of Laura=copyrighted for life. I can just imagine Logan being busted with Mike's Hard Lemonade and asking where the girl as he's being led away.

I remember that! I think it will go down in CBR infamy. The discussion on the thread was interesting to say the least!:biggrin:

FemMys you frighten me.....and I like it.

I get that a lot:biggrin: I'm the good kind of crazy, I promise:wink:

Flâneur

08-08-2009, 08:34 PM

Okay, here is where the jokes end.
Sorry, but i just think that this is something you shouldn't do jokes about.

She was only 15 or 13 (depending on the writer) when she was Wolverine's sidekick.

I wonder what you would think of pariah.

Robbiebob_16

08-08-2009, 08:45 PM

I get that a lot:biggrin: I'm the good kind of crazy, I promise:wink:
Phew... BTW, way to offend somebody FemMys you naughty minx!!:tongue:

Grunty

08-09-2009, 03:33 AM

I wonder what you would think of pariah.

Pariah \Pa"ri*ah\, n. [From Tamil paraiyan, pl. paraiyar, one of
the low caste, fr. parai a large drum, because they beat the
drums at certain festivals.]
[1913 Webster]
1. One of an aboriginal people of Southern India, regarded by
the four castes of the Hindus as of very low grade. They
are usually the serfs of the Sudra agriculturalists. See
{Caste}. --Balfour (Cyc. of India).
[1913 Webster]

2. An outcast; one despised by society.
[1913 Webster]

{Pariah dog} (Zo["o]l.), a mongrel race of half-wild dogs
which act as scavengers in Oriental cities.

{Pariah kite} (Zo["o]l.), a species of kite ({Milvus
govinda}) which acts as a scavenger in India.
[1913 Webster]

So what's up with that?

Also it's not as if I'm angry at FeminineMystique, i only wanted to say that he is driving the joke to far.

FeminineMystique

08-12-2009, 11:45 AM

Phew... BTW, way to offend somebody FemMys you naughty minx!!:tongue:

I'm sooooooo naughty. I really deserve a spanking I've been such a bad girl:wink:

Robbiebob_16

08-12-2009, 12:38 PM

I'm sooooooo naughty. I really deserve a spanking I've been such a bad girl:wink:
Now, now. I'm no good at that sort of hanky panky! Who else can you ask?:tongue:

Grunty

08-12-2009, 03:38 PM

I'm sooooooo naughty. I really deserve a spanking I've been such a bad girl:wink:

You are a girl?

Damn, sorry i called you a "he" a few times.

FeminineMystique

08-12-2009, 04:36 PM

Now, now. I'm no good at that sort of hanky panky! Who else can you ask?:tongue:

Luckily my girlfriend had a few hours off work and...well...:tongue: :wink:

But I can teach you, young padawan. Join me and learn the glory of the S&M side

You are a girl?

Damn, sorry i called you a "he" a few times.

Hey, it's fine I've made the same mistake with men and women on the boards. So long as you don't call me "He" from now on it's no problem:biggrin:

CrimsonComedian

08-12-2009, 09:59 PM

I watched the first season, I thought it was ok/pretty good. It didn't appeal to me the same way the 90s cartoon did, but I was just a kid then. This series has a much more modern feel to it and has more characters which I like. I especially don't like the switch in roles between Wolverine and Cyclops with Scotty being the sort of loner/bad boy and Wolverine being the leader. It just doesn't work right.

What I did like were the Nightcrawler centered episodes... They were all fantastic and provided a great change of pace from the rest of the show. And there really is a lot to like about the show which lets me look past Wolverine and Cyclops. I like Domino a lot and Quicksilver as well. The entire Brotherhood is great actually. I hope Storm, Iceman, Colossus, and Shadowcat get a little more of a boost in screen time the next season. Rogue was utilized perfectly, she was given not too much and not too little attention. Lets get a little Gambit/Rogue going, eh? speaking of Gambit, he had a few nice episodes revolving around him but I hope he becomes more of a regular in the bigger events. I don't really care for him on the team but he should come through when the big battles are occuring between MRA/Genosha/Brother/Xmen and not just for cameos.

Peter F.

08-12-2009, 10:03 PM

I watched both seasons

I did not know the second season had begun airing anywhere yet.

CrimsonComedian

08-12-2009, 10:10 PM

I did not know the second season had begun airing anywhere yet.

LOL. Sorry I was apparently thinking about another series(which apparently has two seasons?!?!?) when I started writing that post.

Protoman

08-13-2009, 12:48 AM

Wolverine and the X-men is the best toon out of marvel in a long time

Robbiebob_16

08-13-2009, 12:15 PM

Luckily my girlfriend had a few hours off work and...well...:tongue: :wink:

But I can teach you, young padawan. Join me and learn the glory of the S&M side

Hey, it's fine I've made the same mistake with men and women on the boards. So long as you don't call me "He" from now on it's no problem:biggrin:
Oh good! I'm happy for you!:biggrin: By the way thank yo for calling me padawan.

FeminineMystique

08-13-2009, 12:17 PM

Oh good! I'm happy for you!:biggrin: By the way thank yo for calling me padawan.

No problem darling. I might make it my new little nick name for you:biggrin:

Robbiebob_16

08-13-2009, 12:21 PM

No problem darling. I might make it my new little nick name for you:biggrin:
Well it sure as hell beats my username that's for sure...:cool:

FeminineMystique

08-13-2009, 12:43 PM

Well it sure as hell beats my username that's for sure...:cool:

Then it's settled Padawan:biggrin: :tongue:

Free-Man

08-13-2009, 01:12 PM

Wolverine and the X-men is the best toon out of marvel in a long time

I dunno. I liked Evolution a lot, but WATX is good because it finally embraces the more modern X-books instead of rehashing the same storylines like the past cartoons and movies.

Robbiebob_16

08-13-2009, 07:07 PM

Then it's settled Padawan:biggrin: :tongue:
YIPEE!

I dunno. I liked Evolution a lot, but WATX is good because it finally embraces the more modern X-books instead of rehashing the same storylines like the past cartoons and movies.
I agree. I for one really like the MRD and the Genosha storylines too. While it was covered on the first animated series, it's been modernized and is really compatible for new viewers and younger X-fans. That being said, what i love about it is how mature and subtle it can be keeping more "classic" fans entertained. I for one can't wait for next season.

MutantChild

08-15-2009, 07:56 PM

For a cartoon called "Wolverine and the X-men", I'm surprised that I actually LIKE it. I've watched almost all of the episodes (which are available online for free, if you know where to look), and I actually enjoy it. I LOVE how many cameos there are. Good cameos, to boot.

FeminineMystique

08-16-2009, 05:51 AM

YIPEE!

I agree. I for one really like the MRD and the Genosha storylines too. While it was covered on the first animated series, it's been modernized and is really compatible for new viewers and younger X-fans. That being said, what i love about it is how mature and subtle it can be keeping more "classic" fans entertained. I for one can't wait for next season.

Age of Apocalypse! Which means, hopefully...BLINK! Lots and lots of Blink!:biggrin:

And more of Mr Sinister who is all kinds of creepy-sexy. :wink:

Robbiebob_16

08-16-2009, 06:28 AM

Age of Apocalypse! Which means, hopefully...BLINK! Lots and lots of Blink!:biggrin:

And more of Mr Sinister who is all kinds of creepy-sexy. :wink:
Amen to that. He reminds me of Alan Rickman. :evilsmile:
And I too am excited for AOA. I think that they will handle it well. Also, and maybe it's just me, I can't wait to see how the Phoenix storyline will play out. I loved how Jean came in at the tail end of the season, but it was mostly Emma Frost goodness throughout. I liked how Jean popped up on the radar again and the Hellfire Club swooped in for the kill. Well done.

FeminineMystique

08-16-2009, 06:33 AM

Amen to that. He reminds me of Alan Rickman. :evilsmile:
And I too am excited for AOA. I think that they will handle it well. Also, and maybe it's just me, I can't wait to see how the Phoenix storyline will play out. I loved how Jean came in at the tail end of the season, but it was mostly Emma Frost goodness throughout. I liked how Jean popped up on the radar again and the Hellfire Club swooped in for the kill. Well done.

Alan Rickman? Actually I can sort of see what you mean:eek: :wink:

And yes, I'm looking forward to the whole Phoenix storyline my padawan. And I'm glad to hear Emma was only "Mostly" dead. Love triangle ahoy?

Robbiebob_16

08-16-2009, 08:57 AM

Alan Rickman? Actually I can sort of see what you mean:eek: :wink:

And yes, I'm looking forward to the whole Phoenix storyline my padawan. And I'm glad to hear Emma was only "Mostly" dead. Love triangle ahoy?
OOO FemMys! I wish. Or maybe a psychic affair on the astral plane?! I loved Emma in the show this season but I'm curious to see how they will "glue" Emma back together after she shattered in her diamond form.
As for Alan Rickman, he is the sex.

FeminineMystique

08-16-2009, 09:14 AM

OOO FemMys! I wish. Or maybe a psychic affair on the astral plane?! I loved Emma in the show this season but I'm curious to see how they will "glue" Emma back together after she shattered in her diamond form.
As for Alan Rickman, he is the sex.

:biggrin: It's scary how much Sinister looked like him in the "Blinded by the Light" story arc and Messiah Complex. In a good way:wink:

And yes, I'm wondering how Emma's going to "Pull herself together" as well.

Rowenna

08-16-2009, 09:32 AM

I was surprised to find I really liked it. It was quite dark and well written. A lot of the voice acting bugged me, and I wish Kitty would just run off somewhere so we didn't have to watch her any more (I mean seriously, the whole precocious ass-kicking child thing gets really old really quickly), but mostly I enjoyed it. I don't like how whiny Rogue was at first, but when she gets a chance to use her brain (like in the episode with Tildie) she's great. And Gambit was sheer awesomeness! I hope they meet in the second series; if their writing carries on at the same calibre, there is no way it can't be good

MutantChild

08-16-2009, 09:34 AM

Yes. AoA FTW. I hear they've confirmed that Deadpool will be appearing... I'm surprised they haven't confirmed Cable, as well.

I LOVED the Pheonix storyline. They did it so well. Unlike some people... *coughBrettRatnerX3cough*

Free-Man

08-16-2009, 09:37 AM

:biggrin:
And yes, I'm wondering how Emma's going to "Pull herself together" as well.

The second season is about AOA, so I'm sure they could use some sort of "She was brought back to life in another dimension" explanation like they did with Hawkeye and Magneto.

FeminineMystique

08-16-2009, 10:06 AM

The second season is about AOA, so I'm sure they could use some sort of "She was brought back to life in another dimension" explanation like they did with Hawkeye and Magneto.

Not a bad idea. I'm wondering if Sinister or Apocalypse might have some hand in her ressurection?

Oh and just to say, I saw "Rover" last night and...MERCIFUL ATHENA THAT WAS SAD!:frown: Poor Marrow...I'm willing to admit I was crying throughout

Grunty

08-16-2009, 10:15 AM

The second season is about AOA, so I'm sure they could use some sort of "She was brought back to life in another dimension" explanation like they did with Hawkeye and Magneto.

Sorry to tell you this but they can't do this, while the original AOA was an alternaive dimension/timeline, the world we saw at the end of season 1 is a future, which means something which could happen from the moment Xavier talked with them again.

However there are other ways to bring her back. Like i said before there was a human figure in the pheonix when Emma's diamond form broke appart.

Oh and just to say, I saw "Rover" last night and...MERCIFUL ATHENA THAT WAS SAD!:frown: Poor Marrow...I'm willing to admit I was crying throughout

It's just a shame the end and follow up situation let her look like a total idiot.

Reminds me that when while watching that episode i noticed a disturbing detail in Xavier's future. There are no humans to be see and only destroyed cities.
The only normal human we saw was Moss who has become a cybernetic puppet of the Sentinels (so much that the computer part can easily override the organic one). Everything else were mutants and Sentinels.

Sure you could argue that they just weren't in the area the whole events happend, but i find the idea of no normal humans around to be intrestingly creepy for such a series.

FeminineMystique

08-16-2009, 10:27 AM

Sorry to tell you this but they can't do this, while the original AOA was an alternaive dimension/timeline, the world we saw at the end of season 1 is a future, which means something which could happen from the moment Xavier talked with them again.

However there are other ways to bring her back. Like i said before there was a human figure in the pheonix when Emma's diamond form broke appart.

It's just a shame the end and follow up situation let her look like a total idiot.

Reminds me that when while watching that episode i noticed a disturbing detail in Xavier's future. There are no humans to be see and only destroyed cities.
The only normal human we saw was Moss who has become a cybernetic puppet of the Sentinels (so much that the computer part can easily override the organic one). Everything else were mutants and Sentinels.

Sure you could argue that they just weren't in the area the whole events happend, but i find the idea of no normal humans around to be intrestingly creepy for such a series.

Between Magneto and Mastermold I wouldn't be surprised if there weren't any humans left. Their not as powerful as the mutants and probably had a far lower chance at survival

Supercoolshay

08-16-2009, 12:20 PM

Age of Apocalypse! Which means, hopefully...BLINK! Lots and lots of Blink!:biggrin:

And more of Mr Sinister who is all kinds of creepy-sexy. :wink:

Blink is in this season.

Grunty

08-16-2009, 12:33 PM

Between Magneto and Mastermold I wouldn't be surprised if there weren't any humans left. Their not as powerful as the mutants and probably had a far lower chance at survival

Yep, like i said it's a surprisingly creepy idea if you think about it.

Come to think of it, for a show which goes great length to avoid direct harm against people it contains a lot of implied genocide.

The total drought of Africa, the destruction of Genosha through the phoenix in Polaris flashback and finaly the missing humans and destroyed cities.

By the way i wonder if we will have a reappearing but different Marrow and Hellion in season 2?

FeminineMystique

08-16-2009, 12:42 PM

Yep, like i said it's a surprisingly creepy idea if you think about it.

Come to think of it, for a show which goes great length to avoid direct harm against people it contains a lot of implied genocide.

The total drought of Africa, the destruction of Genosha through the phoenix in Polaris flashback and finaly the missing humans and destroyed cities.

By the way i wonder if we will have a reappearing but different Marrow and Hellion in season 2?

I'm wondering if we'll maybe see their "Modern day" counterparts, as I'm betting Xavier's "Future X-Men" will be made up mostly of versions of characters from AOA like Blink, Sabretooth (Guessing they'll have him "Reformed" like Domino was in the season 1 future) Jubilee, Rogue, Magneto, Gambit etc.

Grunty

08-16-2009, 12:51 PM

I'm wondering if we'll maybe see their "Modern day" counterparts, as I'm betting Xavier's "Future X-Men" will be made up mostly of versions of characters from AOA like Blink, Sabretooth (Guessing they'll have him "Reformed" like Domino was in the season 1 future) Jubilee, Rogue, Magneto, Gambit etc.

This would make sense if they would have stuck with Days of Future past or Bishop's Future character in season 1. But they didn't. Which means there is no indication that they would actualy stick with AOA characters in season 2.

Especialy since Blink allready appeared in the present which would have make her a middle aged woman by Xaviers future.

Also they kind of went crazy with temporal displacing many characters. After all they made Hellion, Marrow, Firestar and Kamal future only characters (born after the catastrophy), all characters who are actualy supposed to be in the present.