Costumes

[adamisme]

Hi all, hoping a thread like this hasn't been done before. but here goes.

Over their comic book have had many costume changes. Which costumes did you most prefer, did you prefere the original 60's costumes, or the costumes from the early part of this decade. which was you favourite?

[Mikey Brown]

Morrison's run when they didnt have costumes was the best by far. They made sence and they could go out in public without looking like wierdos. Why does Wolverine need a mask in the shape of his hair? Costumes may work for the Avengers but are not needed in the XMen.

[Fatguy]

Morrison's run when they didnt have costumes was the best by far. They made sence and they could go out in public without looking like wierdos. Why does Wolverine need a mask in the shape of his hair? Costumes may work for the Avengers but are not needed in the XMen.

Its superhero comics. Why should it make sense? It just needs to look cool.

[peopleofpaper]

Its superhero comics. Why should it make sense? It just needs to look cool.

I agree. I hated the Morrison serious business time period. The X-men have always been a very colorful team. To make them wear black leather in the books and movies was just out of character.

I liked the costumes of Bachalo's X-men

[Nicoclaws]

Its superhero comics. Why should it make sense? It just needs to look cool.

Morrison's era uniforms looked cool to me. I don't find blue pants over yellow spandex cool.
Some costumes ARE cool. Rogue's green one is pretty good for exemple. And I love Iceman almost naked look.

[Imraith Nimphais]

I can see the merits of both the colourful costumes and the down-played uniform...and aIthough personally, I loved the "Quitley Look" of the Morrison run...I honestly don't mind superheroes looking "out-of-the-ordinary" once it looks visually interesting (from a well-designed, conceptual perspective)...There is an existing thread in the "Marvel" forum where there are more than enough examples of why for some, the "understated look" should be mandated.

[Quinnhop]

Quitely's designs were the best and Ian Churchill did his darnedest to keep up. So that era has my vote, hands down.

Hell, any time one of those yellow X-Jackets makes a cameo, I get stickier than Hi-Fi's copy of Supernovas.

[unlimitedjason]

Hell, any time one of those yellow X-Jackets makes a cameo, I get stickier than Hi-Fi's copy of Supernovas.

Eww... hahaha.

[marvell2100]

The blue and gold during Jim Lee's run was cool. Or at least he made it look cool.

[CJ Lentze]

The blue and gold during Jim Lee's run was cool. Or at least he made it look cool.

He also made them fit a lot tighter than the original blue and yellow. :tongue:

I think I like those costumes and the individual ones that came right afterwards mostly for nostalgic reasons, because they wore them in the animated series as well, and that's where I was introduced to the X-Men.

Trying to pick my favourite era for X-Men costumes is a bit tricky-- most of the costumes were a good fit for their time. I liked the 80s costumes and all their silly belts and leather... I like the 70s costumes of the All-New team, which, to me, look a lot like Earth Wind & Fire's outfits (Nightie and Colossus' shoulder pads!).

Even the post-Reload costumes for each team were a cool update. Cannonball looked good in the orange suit.

[darknessatnoon]

This is my favorite Cyclops outfit.

http://i30.tinypic.com/2yto49f.jpg

[CJ Lentze]

Draw-on muscles. It suddenly makes sense to me how Scott went from 'slim' to 'buff'.

[darknessatnoon]

Draw-on muscles. It suddenly makes sense to me how Scott went from 'slim' to 'buff'.

Yeah, I don't buy that 'Batman of the Marvel Universe' crap, "training" every morning.

[Mikey Brown]

No outfit should have underwear on the outside! I think the thing I liked best from Morrison's was how he made the XMen so different than all the other hero books. Thats why the black and yellow suits worked. Seriously why would Wolverine wear spandex and a goofy mask? I know this is comics but that doesnt mean its gotta stick with ideas that went out of style in the 60s.

[The Lucky One]

Morrison's run when they didnt have costumes was the best by far. They made sence and they could go out in public without looking like wierdos. Why does Wolverine need a mask in the shape of his hair? Costumes may work for the Avengers but are not needed in the XMen.

This may sound odd coming from a Longshot fan and all, but no one should fool themselves into thinking walking outside in all leather would make you look like any less of a weirdo than spandex. Don't get me wrong, I admire how Grant was able to spin it in interviews to make people think all-leather outfits were more practical than spandex, but it doesn't hold up to actual consideration. It was a different look, certainly, and I'll respect anyone's opinion to think it looked cooler, but let's call a spade a spade- it wasn't a more "realistic" look, it was just a modernized version of the old school uniforms.

Personally, I think Joss was right on target about one thing- the X-Men are superheroes. You can split hairs however you want, but they're superheroes. They fight supervillains and save lives. Ergo, it's neither more nor less practical for them to wear spandex than the Avengers, the JLA, or any other superteam.

-D

[Supercoolshay]

. And I love Iceman almost naked look.

So do I.
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i216/ShayL_Hansen/Naked-ness.gif

:tongue:

[darknessatnoon]

This may sound odd coming from a Longshot fan and all, but no one should fool themselves into thinking walking outside in all leather would make you look like any less of a weirdo than spandex. Don't get me wrong, I admire how Grant was able to spin it in interviews to make people think all-leather outfits were more practical than spandex, but it doesn't hold up to actual consideration. It was a different look, certainly, and I'll respect anyone's opinion to think it looked cooler, but let's call a spade a spade- it wasn't a more "realistic" look, it was just a modernized version of the old school uniforms.

Personally, I think Joss was right on target about one thing- the X-Men are superheroes. You can split hairs however you want, but they're superheroes. They fight supervillains and save lives. Ergo, it's neither more nor less practical for them to wear spandex than the Avengers, the JLA, or any other superteam.

-D

I agree. And in that picture I posted, the leather jacket is the most obnoxious part of any of the ensembles.

[Slant]

Cyclops pulled off the jacket with the Cassady Uniform. Thats when the jacket worked.

[Personamanx]

Im generally neutral when it comes to Costume design. I don't usually care as long as it's fairly well drawn.

[the Hornet]

He also made them fit a lot tighter than the original blue and yellow. :tongue:

I think I like those costumes and the individual ones that came right afterwards mostly for nostalgic reasons, because they wore them in the animated series as well, and that's where I was introduced to the X-Men.

Trying to pick my favourite era for X-Men costumes is a bit tricky-- most of the costumes were a good fit for their time. I liked the 80s costumes and all their silly belts and leather... I like the 70s costumes of the All-New team, which, to me, look a lot like Earth Wind & Fire's outfits (Nightie and Colossus' shoulder pads!).

Even the post-Reload costumes for each team were a cool update. Cannonball looked good in the orange suit.

Definitely the blue and gold costumes of the 90s. I really think that despite being in existance since the 60s or the mid 70s for the non-originals, the 90s costumes are the most iconic because of the X-title explosion of that decade, the first cartoon series and the video games that came around then.

Morrison's non-costume is silly. They were still costumes/uniforms and I really don't get how he could claim they were not. Pfff!

And I do buy how Cyke became buff as he takes his superhero stuff more seriously and I can see him working hard to build up. As a leader he probaply works harder to make an impression. So whats wrong with that?

[[]D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite]

The best use of a jacket:

http://www.fightersgeneration.com/characters/1cyclops.gif

[The Lucky One]

I agree. And in that picture I posted, the leather jacket is the most obnoxious part of any of the ensembles.

Heh... it reminds me of that great "How Superboy Got His Groove Back" issue where he realized how very, very dated his leather jacket and disco belts looked a decade or so after his first appearance. The best part was Robin and Impulse gaping at him when he pulled out the "I pity da fool who mess wit' da 'S'!" line. :biggrin:

I suppose any outfit looks dated a decade or so in the rearview mirror. All those trenchcoats and extraneous belts and pouches on heroes of the '90s seem pretty ridiculous now, and the Quitely costumes are well on their way. I suppose in another five years or so the Ultimate costumes will seem quaintly retro too.

-D

[The Hammer]

For anyone who thinks that the trunks are underwear on a superhero's costume, they're not. They're trunks, dammit, not underwear. The trunks could easily be made into a utility harness that would make the most sense for certain characters. It would be a logical move.

[darknessatnoon]

Heh... it reminds me of that great "How Superboy Got His Groove Back" issue where he realized how very, very dated his leather jacket and disco belts looked a decade or so after his first appearance. The best part was Robin and Impulse gaping at him when he pulled out the "I pity da fool who mess wit' da 'S'!" line. :biggrin:

I suppose any outfit looks dated a decade or so in the rearview mirror. All those trenchcoats and extraneous belts and pouches on heroes of the '90s seem pretty ridiculous now, and the Quitely costumes are well on their way. I suppose in another five years or so the Ultimate costumes will seem quaintly retro too.

-D

'The Diaper' will never look dated, though.

http://membres.lycos.fr/bdcomics/persos/frost_emma_prin.jpg

[The Lucky One]

'The Diaper' will never look dated, though.

True. Although in a couple years, the camel toe will look more like a wizard's sleeve.

-D

[AdamYJ]

The original Generation X uniforms were pretty cool. They actually managed to look more like the movie uniforms than the uniforms introduced after the movie did. I mean, take a look at a good rendition of them drawn by Bachalo. Thicker material, padding, zippers up the front. Plus, the dark crimson looked a lot better on the page than the black did.

I'm also rather attached to the general '90s outfits. Also, here's a dark horse choice for you, many of the Revolution costumes. They actually seemed to have a bit of a fantasy vibe to them.

[Mikey Brown]

Call em trunks or underwear, they look silly. You think Batman would put on his costume and think: "man, I will really scare criminals but I just need something else.... Oh maybe a pair of underwear on top of my pants! Thatl scare em all!" I dont think Cyclops would think that either. Also, the only leather worn during Morrison's run was jackets and they didnt wear em all the time. The pants and shirts worn just fit the mutants way more than skin tight spandex and multiple pockets (what the hell does a mutant put in all those pockets? Car keys? Pencils?). But then again, I dont see the XMen as superheroes. They protect their own, they dont go out solving mysteries.

[Prodigy55]

This is my favorite Cyclops outfit.

http://i30.tinypic.com/2yto49f.jpg

Is that Matt Fraction?

I love that costume though, it was his best one.

[The Lucky One]

Call em trunks or underwear, they look silly. You think Batman would put on his costume and think: "man, I will really scare criminals but I just need something else.... Oh maybe a pair of underwear on top of my pants! Thatl scare em all!"

You... haven't read much Batman, have you? :wink: See: 1939-1995, 2002-present.

But then again, I dont see the XMen as superheroes. They protect their own, they dont go out solving mysteries.

Right, because the Avengers are always hopping in the Mystery Machine to investigate who keeps scaring people at the old abandoned amusement park.

Look, they're superheroes... anything said to the contrary is just wishful thinking. They don't simply "protect their own," that's diametrically opposed to the entire reason they were founded- to protect normal humans from evil mutants (see: X-Men #1, 1963), and to foster better relations between humans and mutants. If you want to say that their focus has shifted primarily to protecting their own since M-Day, sure, I'll give you that. But that's maybe, maybe 5% of the team's total existence. They're superheroes; pretending they're not is simply perpetuating the notion that there's something wrong with them being "just" superheroes.

-D

[NickFury90]

The X-men are superheroes, but not "just superheroes". Thats just one of the things they do. Thats why I like the all-purpose outfits of the Morrison-era. They could wear it at bars, during school meetings, etc(and they did), and still be ready for a big superhero fight.

Plus, I think they just look badass.

http://www.majorspoilers.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/new_x_uc_tpb.jpg

[The Lucky One]

Thats why I like the all-purpose outfits of the Morrison-era. They could wear it at bars, during school meetings, etc(and they did)

...Don't take this the wrong way, but I dare you to wear that to a bar. Any non-camp bar, not on Halloween. A black leather jacket with a high collar and a giant day-glo yellow "X" across the front, big "X" gloves, tight black pants, and a chrome "X" belt buckle. Either bare chested with dog tags or with a gray striped turtleneck underneath (also with an "X" on it), your choice.

I mean, don't really because I don't actually want you to get hurt or asked to leave, but man, that would be great. I'd pay to see that. :smile:

-D

[NickFury90]

...Don't take this the wrong way, but I dare you to wear that to a bar. Any non-camp bar, not on Halloween. A black leather jacket with a high collar and a giant day-glo yellow "X" across the front, big "X" gloves, tight black pants, and a chrome "X" belt buckle. Either bare chested or with gray striped turtleneck underneath (also with an "X" on it), your choice.

I mean, don't really because I don't actually want you to get hurt or asked to leave, but man, that would be great. I'd pay to see that. :smile:

-D

Of course, I wouldn't dare wear that anywhere. But in the Marvel universe, it makes a lot more sense, especially with the whole "X-Corporation" thing they had going on.

[ShredHead]

Seriously why would Wolverine wear spandex and a goofy mask?

Heres a better qestion why would Wolverine want to look like the gay biker from the village people? Theres an issue of Wolverine First Class that explains why he is fine wearing the tights I think its the 12th issue. Pretty much being a X-Man an Avenger a superhero is a job and just like alot of jobs it comes with a uniform and thats it.

I cant really pick an era that I liked the costumes they all had there ups and downs but I guess I'll go with the all new all difrent X-men uniforms and the 90's it seems those eras created for the most part the most iconic uniforms for the characters.

[Triforce]

The X-Men are superheroes and therefore they wear costumes.
The Morisson-era leather stuff was really stupid, I didn't like it at all.

I like them wearing unique costumes though, so Wolverine in brown, Rogue in green and so on. I'm not a big fan of the standard blue/yellow costumes.

[Nicoclaws]

The X-Men are superheroes and therefore they wear costumes.
The Morisson-era leather stuff was really stupid, I didn't like it at all.

So, ok, we don't consider leather uniforms as casual. So what if we consider it as costumes ? They look cooler than the usual Yellow Wolverine/PinkGambit/Condom Cyclops stuff (yeah, I took the worst)

I think the Alex Ross's costumes, though.

[worstblogever]

Yeah, I don't buy that 'Batman of the Marvel Universe' crap, "training" every morning.

Scott seems lazy nowadays. He used to work out with Warren in the weight room during X-Factor... now he's zooming around from point A to B with a jetpack, or having Nightcrawler or Pixie teleport him around when he needs to take a healthy jog.

[Justin K.]

I never liked X-Factor's (the original) blue public uniforms. Big bulky box on Angel's back, not a fan of the colour either, or the design. The only reason I'm glad Hodge outed them, no more powder blue uniforms.

[Deus ex Chris]

Its superhero comics. Why should it make sense? It just needs to look cool.

Love the Morrison era costumes. Love the Cassaday designs. Love the Bianchi designs for Colossus and Nightcrawler. Pretty much hate everything else, especially the terrible Jim Lee costumes. Definitely not cool.

[Samy]

I liked the Capullo/Daniel era costumes best.

Some of the graduation costumes were pretty good (like Amara's and Shan's) but some were pretty meh or bad.

I actually did like the Liefeld design with the different colors and white insides of legs; it had a nice uniform look but still individuality with the different colors.

[AcesX1X]

x-factor government team and generation x had best costumes. they were practical, uniform, and designed well.

[lockerogue]

x-factor government team and generation x had best costumes. they were practical, uniform, and designed well.

I like these along with Silvestri's Outback costumes. The All New, All different era. All of Chris Bachalo's costume designs. From Cassaday I only liked Emma's costume.

[Goshin]

i HATED the leather era they only did that to cash in on the movie. "evolve the concept" my black ass! its a fuckin superhero comic book the x-men should wear spandex.

i mean shit they all looked like gay bikers, especially wolverine!! he can run around in regular clothes in his book but i always prefer him with a pointy mask and pointy boots brown/orange or blue/yellow.

and beast? i dont even wanna start on him morisson fucked up one of my childhood heroes and 5 years after he left the book he's still a whiny bitchy cat thing that barely fights anymore

[frog]

I liked the leather costumes. It's silly to think that costumes wouldn't evolve and change over time with fashions - superhero or not, who really wants to wear spandex now? There is still plenty of underwear on the outside to be found at DC.

[timbox]

Please consider the children.

[Goshin]

I like these along with Silvestri's Outback costumes. The All New, All different era. All of Chris Bachalo's costume designs. From Cassaday I only liked Emma's costume.

Australian period and the 70s "new team" dave cockrum designs will always be the best designs.

Rogue black and green australian period

brown/orange wolverine

storm dave cockrum

nightcrawler dave cockrum

colossus dave cockrum or australian period topless

i like cyclops new 2004 costume because of the skullcap look again, but i miss the big-ass yellow alien goggles john byrne used to draw.....

[Goshin]

I liked the leather costumes. It's silly to think that costumes wouldn't evolve and change over time with fashions - superhero or not, who really wants to wear spandex now? There is still plenty of underwear on the outside to be found at DC.

put spiderman in a leather jacket with a skimask and watch what happens

[frog]

put spiderman in a leather jacket with a skimask and watch what happens

His fans will still howl about Mary Jane.

Aside from that, his costume makes a little more sense for him than most, it plays on his origin and abilities.

[lockerogue]

The X-Men should start wearing Under Armour. They have them in loose fitting and in compression fitting. Plus it has X on the chest.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.thatsfit.com/media/2007/11/underarmour.jpg

[Goshin]

The X-Men should start wearing Under Armour. They have them in loose fitting and in compression fitting. Plus it has X on the chest.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.thatsfit.com/media/2007/11/underarmour.jpg

u know, since they started wearing costumes again, i kinda pictured them wearing multi-colored versions of this (colossus, nightcrawler etc)

[Goshin]

His fans will still howl about Mary Jane.

Aside from that, his costume makes a little more sense for him than most, it plays on his origin and abilities.


ok..... how about thor rockin leather? come on..... the look was stupid and brian singer was obsessed with the matrix movie when he started working on the first x-men flick...

[frog]

ok..... how about thor rockin leather? come on..... the look was stupid and brian singer was obsessed with the matrix movie when he started working on the first x-men flick...

I don't really care what Thor wears and I personally think the leather looked good. Spandex just doesn't do anyone any favors.

[Nicoclaws]

ok..... how about thor rockin leather? come on..... the look was stupid and brian singer was obsessed with the matrix movie when he started working on the first x-men flick...

Thor actually wears a leather top, no ? Looks like leather to me.

[frog]

Thor actually wears a leather top, no ? Looks like leather to me.

Yeah, I think Thor would be much more comfortable in leather than spandex!

[Goshin]

i was happy as hell when the costumes came back, especially seeing wolverine's current costume i think it looks a lot better than his original bumblebee costume.

i would like to see an alternative brown and orange version though...

[Jeff-X]

The X-Men aren't individual heroes like the Avengers are, they belong to something bigger than themselves. They're X-Men, mutants banded together under a common ideology, they've trained together and their costumes should be similar so they all give off a team vibe when you look at them.

I'd be happy to see a mix of the Morrison-era costumes with touches of the iconic Jim Lee costumes from the 90s.

[Goshin]

The X-Men aren't individual heroes like the Avengers are, they belong to something bigger than themselves. They're X-Men, mutants banded together under a common ideology, they've trained together and their costumes should be similar so they all give off a team vibe when you look at them.

I'd be happy to see a mix of the Morrison-era costumes with touches of the iconic Jim Lee costumes from the 90s.


id rather see jim lee's early 90s blue and yellow come back if they are gonna dress the same

[The Lucky One]

Spandex just doesn't do anyone any favors.

I respectfully offer a dissenting opinion. Back when I surfed I wore a wetsuit, which is pretty close to spandex, and I looked damn good. :wink: Plus when you're out in the water, you can pee in them to keep warm!

-D

[marvell2100]

This is my favorite Cyclops outfit.

http://i30.tinypic.com/2yto49f.jpg

Why is Scott hanging out with these losers?

[The Lucky One]

Why is Scott hanging out with these losers?

Uh, his name is "Tim," not "Scott."

-D

[adamisme]

have to say, i didn't expect this many replies or debate on the subject as well

[Goshin]

all i gotta say is "unstable molecules" are back in, "leather" is gone for good and it wont be coming back anytime soon!!!

superhero fans win :tongue:

[Washout]

I like my characters' costumes colorful. Some X-men look good in black (Sage, Cannonball, Storm etc), but most of them are more interesting with a little bit of color.

The Morrison costumes bored me, except for Emma's because it was amusing.

[Home made ectoplasm]

I wear full leather all the time and nobody gives me any shit.

I vote Morrison.

[The Hammer]

You're not a superhero.

[Yogaflame]

You're not a superhero.

Please direct me to the nearest real world superhero for cross-reference.

Ah. That is right. They do not exist. Therefore all superheroic 'protocols' are completely made up.

I loved the Morrison leather get ups. And they make sense. Leather is durable and provides a degree of protection. From the waist down they were completely within the realm of sophisticated everyday wear. The jackets with the bright yellow 'x's were indicative of yellow fireman jackets, read: emergency! The gray stripped shirts were understated and also very wearable.

I get it that comics are a visual medium and people like the flair of the costumes. The X-Treme costumes were very nice, and with their use of black and red, very stylish.

Its just the thought of wearing full body spandex in purple or green and pink or what have you, that makes the whole thing ridiculous. Especially for mutants. They don't need to stick out any more than they already do. And it is just so hard for me to believe a guy like Wolverine would consent to putting on yellow and blue spandex with pointy booties and a mask on so he can go tear people into ribbons. And somehow that is less 'gay' then leather pants and a jacket?

[rwsmith]

I'd like to see the following for the Astonishing team:

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f18/Jackraow21/NuCyke.png http://jerome.galica.free.fr/marvel/X-Men/2nd%20team/storm/M-Storm.gif http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f18/Jackraow21/NuBeast.png http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f18/Jackraow21/WolverineWeaponX.png

Emma and Armor's costumes are fine as they are IMO.

[eggie]

I'd like to see the following for the Astonishing team:

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f18/Jackraow21/NuCyke.png http://jerome.galica.free.fr/marvel/X-Men/2nd%20team/storm/M-Storm.gif http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f18/Jackraow21/NuBeast.png http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f18/Jackraow21/WolverineWeaponX.png

Emma and Armor's costumes are fine as they are IMO.

Those are cool! I like them all, I'm just not sure on the color brown for Beast...I would prefer blue with the yellow X...I'm not saying I dislike the brown, I just don't know how I feel about that color for that character.

Good job on those guys by the way!

[frog]

Please direct me to the nearest real world superhero for cross-reference.

Ah. That is right. They do not exist. Therefore all superheroic 'protocols' are completely made up.

I loved the Morrison leather get ups. And they make sense. Leather is durable and provides a degree of protection. From the waist down they were completely within the realm of sophisticated everyday wear. The jackets with the bright yellow 'x's were indicative of yellow fireman jackets, read: emergency! The gray stripped shirts were understated and also very wearable.

I get it that comics are a visual medium and people like the flair of the costumes. The X-Treme costumes were very nice, and with their use of black and red, very stylish.

Its just the thought of wearing full body spandex in purple or green and pink or what have you, that makes the whole thing ridiculous. Especially for mutants. They don't need to stick out any more than they already do. And it is just so hard for me to believe a guy like Wolverine would consent to putting on yellow and blue spandex with pointy booties and a mask on so he can go tear people into ribbons. And somehow that is less 'gay' then leather pants and a jacket?

The leather may not actually be all that good for movement. I recall seeing some outtakes from the first X-Men movie where James Marsden was unable to leap over a rather short wall due to the inflexibility of his pants!

[rwsmith]

Those are cool! I like them all, I'm just not sure on the color brown for Beast...I would prefer blue with the yellow X...I'm not saying I dislike the brown, I just don't know how I feel about that color for that character.

Good job on those guys by the way!

Thanks. Another option would be to put Wolverine back in brown and Beast in gray or blue, but Beast has worn brown in the past:

http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/x-factor/26-1.jpg

http://cache.coverbrowser.com/image/x-factor/36-1.jpg

So there's definitely precedent for putting him in a brown suit. Plus it's something different for him, and kind of interesting IMO.

Here's a modernized Wolverine brown and tan costume, by the way:

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f18/Jackraow21/AXMWolverinev40.png

I think I still prefer the black and gray X-Force one, though. But IMO it looks better without the mask.

[Yogaflame]

The leather may not actually be all that good for movement. I recall seeing some outtakes from the first X-Men movie where James Marsden was unable to leap over a rather short wall due to the inflexibility of his pants!

Well, those costumes were like leather one-pieces and it was the first day of shooting with them, so they weren't broken it yet. Trust, I have worn leather pants and danced my ass off all night. So it certainly isn't anti-movement or inflexible, at least if the leather is properly tanned/conditioned/broken in.

[eggie]

Thanks. Another option would be to put Wolverine back in brown and Beast in gray or blue, but Beast has worn brown in the past:

http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/x-factor/26-1.jpg

http://cache.coverbrowser.com/image/x-factor/36-1.jpg

So there's definitely precedent for putting him in a brown suit. Plus it's something different for him, and kind of interesting IMO.

Here's a modernized Wolverine brown and tan costume, by the way:

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f18/Jackraow21/AXMWolverinev40.png

I think I still prefer the black and gray X-Force one, though. But IMO it looks better without the mask.

I totally forgot about that Beast costume! I just don't know if it looks good with his blue fur...I will have to think about that some more.

Definitely agree with you about the Logan X-Force costume being the best choice for him.

[The Hammer]

Please direct me to the nearest real world superhero for cross-reference.

Ah. That is right. They do not exist. Therefore all superheroic 'protocols' are completely made up.

I loved the Morrison leather get ups. And they make sense. Leather is durable and provides a degree of protection. From the waist down they were completely within the realm of sophisticated everyday wear. The jackets with the bright yellow 'x's were indicative of yellow fireman jackets, read: emergency! The gray stripped shirts were understated and also very wearable.

I get it that comics are a visual medium and people like the flair of the costumes. The X-Treme costumes were very nice, and with their use of black and red, very stylish.

Its just the thought of wearing full body spandex in purple or green and pink or what have you, that makes the whole thing ridiculous. Especially for mutants. They don't need to stick out any more than they already do. And it is just so hard for me to believe a guy like Wolverine would consent to putting on yellow and blue spandex with pointy booties and a mask on so he can go tear people into ribbons. And somehow that is less 'gay' then leather pants and a jacket?

I feel sorry for you and your stunted imagination.

[Pixie_Solanas]

More heels on boots, pls. This flat sh** is out of hand.

[Fatguy]

I feel sorry for you and your stunted imagination.

lol I agree.

I fucking hate the idea of practicality in my superhero comics.

[The Hammer]

lol I agree.

I fucking hate the idea of practicality in my superhero comics.

Are you being a Richard?

[Fatguy]

Are you being a Richard?

That all depends on what "Being a Richard" means. For now, I'll say.....maybe??

[The Hammer]

Did you actually agree with me, or were you not being nice?

[Fatguy]

Did you actually agree with me, or were you not being nice?

LOL I getcha.

Yes, I actually agree with you. I want spandex. Colorful spandex. I dont wanna hear crap like "It makes no sense for Wolverine to wear a costume!". It makes no sense for a lot of things, but that's the genre. I want things to look cool, not "Boots that would make it a lot easier to jump from roof to roof".

[The Hammer]

LOL I getcha.

Yes, I actually agree with you. I want spandex. Colorful spandex. I dont wanna hear crap like "It makes no sense for Wolverine to wear a costume!". It makes no sense for a lot of things, but that's the genre.

I don't think it is really spandex, though.

Wolverine's brown and tan costume is awesome and so is the classic gold and blue with the tiger stripes. I still want trunks on Wolverine, too.

[Goshin]

Only thing I don't like is how some artists don't draw wolverines mask. I always preferred the big jim lee / art adams big mask to the tiny skinny style alan davis and some other artists draw him.

[HeckBoy]

Quitely's designs were the best and Ian Churchill did his darnedest to keep up. So that era has my vote, hands down.

Hell, any time one of those yellow X-Jackets makes a cameo, I get stickier than Hi-Fi's copy of Supernovas.See, I liked the jackets (yes, I liked those '90s brown jackets too), but I don't really prefer the ensemble as a whole to their more traditional superhero designs. I was out of comics at the time Morrison/Quitely took over, so when I came back in the middle of his run, I was taken aback a little, but eventually came to appreciate the fresh take. That being said, I'm not really a fan of their current Bianchi costumes. Too much extra lines and piping and accessories.

[Deus ex Chris]

I love the extra lines and piping. They give the costumes texture and depth. I hate when the costumes look flat and painted on.

[HeckBoy]

I love the extra lines and piping. They give the costumes texture and depth. I hate when the costumes look flat and painted on.I don't mind adding a few seams and texture here and there (like how Cap's mask started being drawn w/ visible seams and his chain mail became a bit more pronounced), but Bianchi's redesigns go a bit overboard IMHO. His lines make the costumes look too busy, and in particular, I have hated Cyclops getting gold-metal wrist/ankle bands b/c they look clunky, as well as Wolverine getting "ribbed" gloves and a weird "utility belt" (both of which are inconsistently depicted, making it that much more annoying when I actually see them).

[Optic Rage!]

I'd be fine with the current Cyclops costume if he removed the cap, it looked great in those x-force issues without it.

My fave of his was the post morrison one, EOD.

Even though he only had it for like, 4 issues.

[coveredinbees]

I liked his X-Factor costume.

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/5438/spelledscott.jpg
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/2844/stylen.jpg

[lockerogue]

I'd be fine with the current Cyclops costume if he removed the cap, it looked great in those x-force issues without it.

My fave of his was the post morrison one, EOD.

Even though he only had it for like, 4 issues.

This is my absolute favorite Cyclops costume.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/204237-193257-cyclops_super.jpg

[lockerogue]

I liked his X-Factor costume.

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/5438/spelledscott.jpg
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/2844/stylen.jpg

How do you feel about this one. It's my 2nd favorite.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/8190/262563-192677-cyclops_super.gif

[coveredinbees]

How do you feel about this one. It's my 2nd favorite.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/8190/262563-192677-cyclops_super.gif
It looks like the white X is popping off his chest. But if the boots were different I think I could dig it.

[HeckBoy]

This is my absolute favorite Cyclops costume.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/204237-193257-cyclops_super.jpg
What's that metal contraption he has on his belt on his right hip?

[Deus ex Chris]

I don't mind adding a few seams and texture here and there (like how Cap's mask started being drawn w/ visible seams and his chain mail became a bit more pronounced), but Bianchi's redesigns go a bit overboard IMHO. His lines make the costumes look too busy, and in particular, I have hated Cyclops getting gold-metal wrist/ankle bands b/c they look clunky, as well as Wolverine getting "ribbed" gloves and a weird "utility belt" (both of which are inconsistently depicted, making it that much more annoying when I actually see them).

No, I'm not really a fan of the clunky stuff either, but I do love the lines and piping. I think Nightcrawler and Colossus are Bianchi's best. It's also the best either character has looked.

[HeckBoy]

No, I'm not really a fan of the clunky stuff either, but I do love the lines and piping. I think Nightcrawler and Colossus are Bianchi's best. It's also the best either character has looked.
Yeah, I think Kurt and Piotr's new costumes are actually pretty nice. Those sort of lines/piping I'm down with, so maybe it's just Bianchi's art.

[monkeypool]

LOL! I can't believe I just read all these responses.

Anyway, I just had to say this, I realize that they are mutants, and not the Avengers or whatever...but no one will be able to convince me that they aren't a team of superheroes.
That's just what they are.
And as superheroes, they really are more fun, when they LOOK like superheroes.Sure it's cheesy, maybe even silly, but you know what?
I'm a comic geek, I LIKE cheesy!
And in my opinion, they all just look so much cooler in real costumes, not that leather stuff.
The leather stuff is really only used in the movies, so that the average movie-goer wasn't turned off by the admittedly "dorky" spandex stuff.

If comic book movies were made for comic book fans, those leather outfits would never have been used.
IMHO of course! :)

[The Hammer]

Well, see, the problem is that a lot of the commenters in this thread don't seem to understand that the X-Men are superheroes. Then again, a lot of people at this forum don't understand much.

[Deus ex Chris]

Well, see, the problem is that a lot of the commenters in this thread don't seem to understand that the X-Men are superheroes. Then again, a lot of people at this forum don't understand much.

Or those commentors just don't care. Being superheroes doesn't mean they have to look ridiculous. It's not asking too much for these characters to be aesthetically pleasing. I think you might be the one having difficulty understanding.

[Gamiel]

My favorite Cyclops costyme is his 'Mutant X' one
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/3957/cyclopsmux.th.jpg (http://img691.imageshack.us/i/cyclopsmux.jpg/)

[Pixie_Solanas]

My favorite Cyclops costyme is his 'Mutant X' one
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/3957/cyclopsmux.th.jpg (http://img691.imageshack.us/i/cyclopsmux.jpg/)

I must have missed Scott's "Dandy Highwayman" phase. Pity.

[Gamiel]

I must have missed Scott's "Dandy Highwayman" phase. Pity.

It is more swashbuckling space pirate

[WWWD]

It's cliche, but the Phoenix costume, John Byrne's to be precise, is my favorite. Not to be mistaken with the Dark Phoenix one. I prefer the green.