Cillian Murphy's Scarecrow

[linainverse]

Was hoping to see him back. he appeared only briefly in Dark Knight. Any news on this character?

[Rawlin67]

what do you mean? there isnt even an official third movie as of right now. everything, even the comic-con announcement, is unofficial. so as of right now, there is no third movie, so there are no characters. do you mean news in other media or something?

[Retro315]

There's zilch.

But it is logical to think that after carrying off Crane's origin in Begins, using Crane as connective tissue and a "loose end tied up" in The Dark Knight, that if Batman visits Arkham Asylum in the next movie, Crane would be a good choice of a cameo there, first because the story arc for Crane (from Arkham good to the streets back to Arkham bad). Probably not much more than a short scene like the one in TDK, with a smart-ass comment.

And there's always the chance that in the wake of Ledger not being able to reprise Joker, they call back Cillian Murphy's Scarecrow to be the "Hannibal Lecter" style psycho expert that Batman has to visit Arkham to get an understanding of the new criminal - which would fit extremely well with Scarecrow's background as a head-shrink as well.

But Batman 3 is just a three guys hammering out rough ideas in a garage at this point, while Studio Execs are counting money they haven't even made yet and posturing.

[AJM]

And there's always the chance that in the wake of Ledger not being able to reprise Joker, they call back Cillian Murphy's Scarecrow to be the "Hannibal Lecter" style psycho expert that Batman has to visit Arkham to get an understanding of the new criminal - which would fit extremely well with Scarecrow's background as a head-shrink as well.

I like the sound of that. I would say that i'd really like to see more of Murphy's Scarecrow, but i think it's been pretty effective having him in a supporting role.

[Damiean Dark]

I wasnt a big fan of murphys scarecrow i just couldnt get over the fact he looked like a GQ model.

[comicsmetal]

I wasnt a big fan of murphys scarecrow i just couldnt get over the fact he looked like a GQ model.


You must be joking right a GQ model Murphy is not a really good looking person.He was far from it.I think he look very creepy.

[The Hammer]

This is one of the reason's why I do not want to see Nolan direct another Batman film. Nor any director try to adapt a superhero to film and make so many mistakes with a character.

The Scarecrow wasn't in these films, he was never intended to be in these films.

Doing away with the Scarecrow's costume was a monumental mistake. Improper unmasking or worse, doing away with a character's costume completely is one of the common failings of superhero films.

[NickGuy]

Cillian WAS the scarecrow. my favorite aspect of Batman begins. but then again, i have a huge man crush on him because of 28 Days Later.

[Rawlin67]

Nolan did a terrific job with the Scarecrow. this isnt the happy go lucky colors and costumes of schumachers movies, this is a very realistic, logic-driven world. it made perfect sense for him just to have that straw bag over his head as a costume. he fit much better in reality this way.

[AJM]

This is one of the reason's why I do not want to see Nolan direct another Batman film. Nor any director try to adapt a superhero to film and make so many mistakes with a character.

The Scarecrow wasn't in these films, he was never intended to be in these films.

Doing away with the Scarecrow's costume was a monumental mistake. Improper unmasking or worse, doing away with a character's costume completely is one of the common failings of superhero films.


A "monumental mistake"? I think you're the first person i've heard complain.

I think Batman Begins offered me the only version of the Scarecrow that was remotely believable. I don't think his comic costume would quite have worked in Nolan's film either.

Now that i've said that, maybe i would really like to see him back and get fleshed out with an origin. It could be brilliant.

[Damiean Dark]

You must be joking right a GQ model Murphy is not a really good looking person.He was far from it.I think he look very creepy.

Nah he looks like a model i have seen him around british tv for years before BB in magazines and the like. Not to say he is a bad actor but he was wrong for Crane imo.

Scarecrow should be man in his 40s at the very least who is a bookworm he isnt meant to be just creepy but unbalanced obsessed by books and the mind (a part they at least tried to address in BB).

In the comics we regularly see him quoting lewis carol.shakespeare ect ect in BB he was a standard psycho he had nothing very special about him at all imo.

I wanted an actor known for odd methods of acting to play Crane someone like jeff goldbum for instance.

[Redem]

Nah he looks like a model i have seen him around british tv for years before BB in magazines and the like. Not to say he is a bad actor but he was wrong for Crane imo.

Scarecrow should be man in his 40s at the very least who is a bookworm he isnt meant to be just creepy but unbalanced obsessed by books and the mind (a part they at least tried to address in BB).

In the comics we regularly see him quoting lewis carol.shakespeare ect ect in BB he was a standard psycho he had nothing very special about him at all imo.

I wanted an actor known for odd methods of acting to play Crane someone like jeff goldbum for instance.

I don't really recall a time where Scarecrow was showed as in 40's now if he was Hugo Strange maybe

Considering that he is a secondary character he don't really need that much developpement

Plus at what time in the movie would it be appropriate for him to quote Shakespeare or Lewis Caroll (beside the later is more the mad hatter stuff)

[n2doop5u]

I always saw Scarecrow as smart. I actually never liked the nursery rhyme scarecrow ala Long Halloween. Him and the Hatter in Long Halloween I feel are dealt with pretty shitty. There's only so many circumstances a nursery rhyme or a lewis caroll quote can be used and have it make sense. I think there is maybe room for a quote or two, however, the character is still developing. He only had a few scenes in begins and only one in Dark Knight. There's room for him to go crazier. He started peddling drugs and the Dark Knight caught him. The more and more Batman catches him, the crazier his vendetta will be. He's intrigued by Batman and he definitely wants to know more about him. There's room for him to grow over time. I'm fine with that.

And if they don't develop him, big deal.

[Mia]

Nolan did a terrific job with the Scarecrow. this isnt the happy go lucky colors and costumes of schumachers movies, this is a very realistic, logic-driven world. it made perfect sense for him just to have that straw bag over his head as a costume. he fit much better in reality this way.

I agree, and besides that, I found him way more creepy than if he had been running around in a halloween costume.

[Redem]

Well I think that Nolan reasoning is "if Scarecrow is out of gas, nothing stop Batman to kick his ass in one punch"

[comicsmetal]

I think I remember once reading Nolan wanted have a much more scarier mask but the the studio were worried that if they use that mask they could have gotten a R rating.

[Rawlin67]

that would be kind of pointless, because once the fear gas is on his adversary he looks incredibly scary anyway........

[RubberLotus]

Remember, Scarecrow's just started his career as a "freak", so there's plenty of time for him to make future adjustments to his costume.

That being said, I really do miss the patched-together outfit, and I do think that there is a way to make it work: at one point or another, he's so down on his luck that he has to hang with the homeless population just to survive. As a natural result, he wears the stitched-and-patched clothes because he can't afford suits anymore.

And maybe afterward, he finds that he prefers the feel of baggy, soft rags to crisp, stiff suits.

But still, that's just my two cents.:smile:

[dancj]

I wanted an actor known for odd methods of acting to play Crane someone like jeff goldbum for instance.
Jeff Goldblum's probably a bit too old now, but at the right age he could have been a great Scarecrow!

(Whatever happened to Jeff Goldblum anyway. I haven't seen him for about 15 years)

[David Walton]

I liked Cilian Murphy's Scarecrow. He plays creepiness to great effect.

Caught the last half of "Red Eye" on tv last week..he does a great evil bastard in any format.

As for his function in a third film, well logically there's this:

His role in the first film is the transition between the old school mobsters and the freaks who just do it for kicks.

In the second he shows Batman that the freaks aren't scared of him, and paves the way for the Joker.

So in the third he cold become scared of Batman somehow (he was in the comics for a while) and bring it full circle.

There's other places to go, but Scarecrow should represent the various stages of Batman's developing relationship with Gotham.