Power Girl vs. Power Woman

[numberONE]

Should Power Girl become Power Woman? It would make sense, right? I mean, she's pushing 40!

[Fatguy]

"Power Woman" just doesnt flow the same. Maybe I'm just so used to the "Girl".

[marshal99]

Yeah , power woman just sounds ....i dunno , wrong.

[ScottyQuick]

Power Girl is idiotic, Power Woman FTW!

[Vidocq]

"Power Woman" just doesnt flow the same. Maybe I'm just so used to the "Girl".
I Agree with this.

Should Power Girl become Power Woman? It would make sense, right? I mean, she's pushing 40!

Is she really? I always thought that she would be around Dick Grayson's age.

[Jorriss]

A name change doesn't really make sense to me, unless the public or other heroes make the change, and at this point, she's so old, I don't see why anyone else would suddenly call her something different.

[krammocon]

I vote Power Girl!

[ShaunN]

Definitely Power Woman. The use of "girl" to describe a grown woman really infantalizes and, ironically, depowers her. It feeds the idea that women themselves must always be "girls" in order to have appeal and, if they are "women" are somehow unappealing or threatening.

Let Karen grow up.

[Spiffy]

Really, its the "Power" part of the name that's the most ridiculous. Then again, so is "Super".

Nothing to be done for either of those thought. They just "ARE".

[numberONE]

I guess it's just like Sidney Crosby will always be called "Sid the Kid". :rolleyes:

[Fatguy]

Definitely Power Woman. The use of "girl" to describe a grown woman really infantalizes and, ironically, depowers her. It feeds the idea that women themselves must always be "girls" in order to have appeal and, if they are "women" are somehow unappealing or threatening.

Let Karen grow up.

"Girl" means all that to you? I'm very sorry.

[FemGeek]

I say stick with Power Girl, maybe when she gets older she can change it to woman. We girls dont mind being referred to as girl when we are below 30, which PG is - she's in her mid to late 20s.

[Retro315]

Why not Power Lady?

Power Chick? Power Babe? Power Dame?

[robbieglenn]

Why not Power Lady?

Power Chick? Power Babe? Power Dame?

Power Broad? :biggrin:

[dupersuper]

I Agree with this.



Is she really? I always thought that she would be around Dick Grayson's age.

I think the poster meant the characters been around for over 40 years...

[dupersuper]

Definitely Power Woman. The use of "girl" to describe a grown woman really infantalizes and, ironically, depowers her. It feeds the idea that women themselves must always be "girls" in order to have appeal and, if they are "women" are somehow unappealing or threatening.

Let Karen grow up.

This may be overthinking it. No need to politicize everything; she was called Powergirl because she was the Earth2 Supergirl. That being said, she's, like, a decade older than the current Supergirl now. If Conner was testy about being called SuperBOY when he was biologically 16, I'd think Karen would be starting to chafe...

[Laminator_X]

Power Broad? :biggrin:

Only if the story arc involves cigarettes, hard liquor, and Humphrey Bogart.
Ms. Starr was one hell of a dame, with a fierceness in her that dares you too look her in the eye. Of course it was easier to look at her other assets, but you got the feeling if you lingered too long there you'd be having knuckle sandwich for dinner. A real power broad, that one.

[Calybos]

It's a holdover from the Golden Age: all male-female counterparts are named "Man" and "Girl."

Bulletman, Bulletgirl... no Bulletwoman
Hawkman, Hawkgirl... no Hawkwoman (at least, not early on)
Superman, Supergirl... no Superwoman, except a villain on Earth-3
Batman, Batgirl... no Batwoman for a looong time
Aquaman, Aquagirl... No Aquawoman
Dollman, Dollgirl.. No Dollwoman

Really, the only exception to the rule was Wonder Woman.

Of course, there's no equivalent "Power Man" for PG to be partnered with, but I think the fact that she was created as a Supergirl-analogue pretty much sealed the deal on her name.

[Shellhead]

With Kara's attitude, I can't imagine a less suitable name than Power Girl. She is an adult woman with a very direct manner of speaking her mind. She has no illusions about her age or responsibilities as leader of the biggest superhero team around.

[West Mantooth]

Power Dame.

[Dave Hackett]

I guess it's just like Sidney Crosby will always be called "Sid the Kid". :rolleyes:

Hey I've been pushing to have him renamed "crybaby scumbag" for a while now, but none of my NS friends are going for it.

Go Caps!

[Kage Kisaragi]

The name doesn't matter, but it doesn't sound as good or roll off the tongue as well as Power Girl, PeeGee, or PG.

PW.. PeeWee,... Power Woman. It sounds kind of lame to me. I love Karen for Karen to hell with her monkier, she could call herself Power Peeks and It wouldn't matter to me.

[Green Griffin]

Power Girl just sounds alot better then Power Woman.

[Reptisaurus!]

Superman, Supergirl... no Superwoman, except a villain on Earth-3


And a hero in the late Bronze Age.

Batman, Batgirl... no Batwoman for a looong time


Yeah there was. :)

Batwoman debuted five-ish years before the original Bat-Girl.

Really, the only exception to the rule was Wonder Woman.


Who REALLY should've had a Wonder Boy.

[Shellhead]

The name doesn't matter, but it doesn't sound as good or roll off the tongue as well as Power Girl, PeeGee, or PG.

PW.. PeeWee,... Power Woman. It sounds kind of lame to me. I love Karen for Karen to hell with her monkier, she could call herself Power Peeks and It wouldn't matter to me.

I've been a JSA fan for a long time. I remember when Kara was introduced in the mid-'70s, when the team was appearing in All-Star Comics. And I don't remember seeing this PeeGee nickname until Infinite Crisis. I don't like it, and I think that she has long since outgrown the name Power Girl. Who else uses "Girl" in their name in the DCU? Stargirl, Supergirl, and Wonder Girl, but they are all at least a decade younger. And some members of the Legion. That's it. I just can't see Kara tolerating people calling her Girl, even Power Girl. She's a grown woman who isn't going to let anybody talk down to her.

[superchick]

Is she really? I always thought that she would be around Dick Grayson's age.

We can only judge by Earth one, Dick was younger than Kara Zor-El who was Babs' age and considering PG was older than Kara of Earth one that would make her in her 30s. Given her history is said to be exactly the same only taking place on New Earth then she would remain that age

[Kage Kisaragi]

I've been a JSA fan for a long time. I remember when Kara was introduced in the mid-'70s, when the team was appearing in All-Star Comics. And I don't remember seeing this PeeGee nickname until Infinite Crisis. I don't like it, and I think that she has long since outgrown the name Power Girl. Who else uses "Girl" in their name in the DCU? Stargirl, Supergirl, and Wonder Girl, but they are all at least a decade younger. And some members of the Legion. That's it. I just can't see Kara tolerating people calling her Girl, even Power Girl. She's a grown woman who isn't going to let anybody talk down to her.

Actually the current Hawk Girl uses well girl, and she doesn't seem to have a problem with that, despite being a grown woman with a respectible job and adult friends, some of which actual know her secret identity and don't pressure her to go all femininism and change it to Hawkwoman number 3. Oh and I saw PeeGee on the boards and adopted it long before I heard about infinite crisis. My exposure to PG did come around that time though and I never hid the fact that I came to know her during her mini, then started to find her interesting in retrospect, but its her latest storie that made me like her, not that they seem all that different from earlier ones.

[Shellhead]

Actually the current Hawk Girl uses well girl, and she doesn't seem to have a problem with that, despite being a grown woman with a respectible job and adult friends, some of which actual know her secret identity and don't pressure her to go all femininism and change it to Hawkwoman number 3. Oh and I saw PeeGee on the boards and adopted it long before I heard about infinite crisis. My exposure to PG did come around that time though and I never hid the fact that I came to know her during her mini, then started to find her interesting in retrospect, but its her latest storie that made me like her, not that they seem all that different from earlier ones.

Good point about Hawkgirl. I'm uncertain of her age, but guessing early '20s.

[gwydion]

We don't actually know Power Girl's age, (and for the record, I'm for keeping Power Girl as her name), but she seems likely to be in her mid twenties.

Look at it this way. Her maximum possible age would probably be represented by the actual age of the character, which for the record is 33. That is to say she was introduced in 1976, and is 33 this year.

But DC set's it's character ages back continually. Superman is still in his mid to late thirties for example. Power Girl seems to be something around 15 years or so younger than the New Earth Superman. She seems to be on a par with Nightwing, or perhaps Wally West or Kyle Rayner.

She's best friends with a teen---Terra, and Mr. Terrific, himself most likely in his mid to late thirties, called her a kid.

Mid twenties seems reasonable in light of all that.

[numberONE]

http://dcu.smartmemes.com/DCTL_8_TL.html

This site says she's 31.

[Scott Taylor]

Should just change her name to Peekaboo.

[jv2k]

Power girl sounds stupid.

I hate this argument because it ignores the fundemental differences between the use of girl and boy. Boy is never really used after a certain age and once you hit adult hood the only people who refer to you as boy are girls(to an extant) and maybe old people. Boy has a stigma attatched to it when used man to man. It denotes a lower social status and childishness.

Girl doesn't have this same stigma. At all. It elludes to a youthfull cuteness and it's not uncommon for a woman to be reffered to as girl well into her 30s.

Then we get the sexist argument about how "males get to be men but their female costars are simply children" but of course this ignores the actual use of the words and it also ignores the fact that "Woman" doesn't sound as good as girl does.

[Calybos]

The Golden Age: When men were men and women were girls!


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[goblin9]

Should Power Girl become Power Woman? It would make sense, right? I mean, she's pushing 40!

Power Girl
She is not woman yet

explanation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnDH-RXCptY

[Kage Kisaragi]

Power Girl
She is not woman yet

explanation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnDH-RXCptY

then she is a woman as she has had a person come out of her virgina.
Pro Power Girl though, so you know I'm willing to forget that fact.

[goblin9]

then she is a woman as she has had a person come out of her virgina.
Pro Power Girl though, so you know I'm willing to forget that fact.

Did he step on her dreams?

[gwydion]

http://dcu.smartmemes.com/DCTL_8_TL.html

This site says she's 31.

The site, unauthorized, I might note, also admits that she is a special case, with no known firm date currently that she arrived on Earth-Two. Why exactly they choose to call her 31 when she arrived on Earth-Two at 18, and in 1976, (which would make her 51 if you went by straight years), I don't know. But then they seem to vastly overestimate most heroes from a cursory glance. They for sure got both Raven and Stargirl wrong. Robin too---with their caveat that perhaps explains their inaccuracy---that they ignore DC sliding time scale. But there's no way Robin is 21, not from any of his books.

Bottom line, it's an interesting site, but I wouldn't take the age estimates all that seriously, (you know what I mean).

[Kage Kisaragi]

Did he step on her dreams?

i don't know, he aged rapidly and flew away, so unless her dream was to raise a kid I would guess not.