Sell me RIP. Or at least tell me if I would like it.

[Herr Mike]

I flipped through it at the store the other day. I try to get all the big Batman stuff, but I'm far from a completist.

I like Grant Morrison, mostly. But I haven't enjoyed his recent pet projects, such as Seven Soldiers or Final Crisis. Outside of the excellent League of Batmen story, and the Joker prose issue, I didn't care for his pre-RIP Batman. But it wasn't facepalmingly bad.

Tony Daniel is a significant thumbs down for me. As I scanned the book, I was struck by how bad it looked. Part of it was awful coloring and sloppy inks, but there was some distractingly wonky anatomy and poses going on. I didn't pay much attention to the storytelling, does the art at least function on that level?

Finally, I know Batman actually does the dying in Final Crisis. How is this handled? Is RIP self-contained?

[Chiroptera]

I flipped through it at the store the other day. I try to get all the big Batman stuff, but I'm far from a completist.

I like Grant Morrison, mostly. But I haven't enjoyed his recent pet projects, such as Seven Soldiers or Final Crisis. Outside of the excellent League of Batmen story, and the Joker prose issue, I didn't care for his pre-RIP Batman. But it wasn't facepalmingly bad.

Tony Daniel is a significant thumbs down for me. As I scanned the book, I was struck by how bad it looked. Part of it was awful coloring and sloppy inks, but there was some distractingly wonky anatomy and poses going on. I didn't pay much attention to the storytelling, does the art at least function on that level?

Finally, I know Batman actually does the dying in Final Crisis. How is this handled? Is RIP self-contained?


Honestly, from what you've said so far, I'd say don't buy RIP. If you didn't like the majority of Morrison's Batman run thus far (aside from the aforementioned league of batmen and joker prose) I don't think there's any real reason for you to get RIP.

I'm not a fan of Morrison. The story itself is intriguing in the way it blends so much of Batman's history into a modern day tale, still, if you didn't like the other offerings Morrison made I don't think RIP will change your mind at all. Personally, I feel that the art was just lousy throughout, and actually I'd say that the biggest issue is that it actually doesn't help tell the story at all. I found it easier to just read panels and keep moving than to stop and look at the picture. Whenever I ended up studying the pictures I just ended up becoming confused as to what was happening in the scene, I don't really feel that they flowed very well from panel to panel.

[Captain Jim]

I flipped through it at the store the other day. I try to get all the big Batman stuff, but I'm far from a completist.

I like Grant Morrison, mostly. But I haven't enjoyed his recent pet projects, such as Seven Soldiers or Final Crisis. Outside of the excellent League of Batmen story, and the Joker prose issue, I didn't care for his pre-RIP Batman. But it wasn't facepalmingly bad.

Tony Daniel is a significant thumbs down for me. As I scanned the book, I was struck by how bad it looked. Part of it was awful coloring and sloppy inks, but there was some distractingly wonky anatomy and poses going on. I didn't pay much attention to the storytelling, does the art at least function on that level?

Finally, I know Batman actually does the dying in Final Crisis. How is this handled? Is RIP self-contained?

By and large, people either think RIP is the best Batman story ever or the worst. If you didn't care for most of Morrison's pre-RIP work, I have my doubts that you will like this. The ending of RIP is self-contained and does not relate to FC at all. However, if you get the trade, they also include the two issues which followed RIP, which are FC tie-in's (and frankly, should have been included with the FC collected editions, not this).

[comicsmetal]

I myself did not like it,sorry to say morrison writing is a miss for me.I just thought the ending was awful and at time it was very confusing.

I also hate that you had to read final crisis to get the real story.

[Sean Walsh]

I'll sell you RIP......for $180!

(Then I'll have to go buy it for 25 cents a pop - PROFIT!) :tongue:


But honestly, FINAL CRISIS kinda weirded me out to Morrison for a while (except ALL-STAR SUPERMAN - lordy loo, was that good). BATMAN RIP seems very cerebral and intricate. I keep wanting to read it (that hardcover sure looks pretty) but I haven't been able to go through with the purchase yet. Plus I haven't read a lot of what Morrison did in the last year or 2 before it, and I think I'd be a bit lost without reading that stuff.

[mofo]

I liked it
But I think DC editorial gimped on making the epilogue tie into Final Crisis... Made RIP loose some of its impact

[Rawlin67]

RIP was nuts off its own smoke, to put it in some terms. lot of just random events that was all supposed to culminate into some epic moment, yet the only payoff they ever did deliver was weak-willed. i have never been a fan of morrison (although the first two issues of batman & robin have impressed me thusfar) and i just think RIP was too much of a mess. i didn't like a lot of the portrayals of the characters either, which didnt help.

[Chachi]

Read it, still confused as hell.

[Karl O'Neill]

Read it.

It's is one of the best batman stories ever, even though the ending is slighty a letdown.

Still great.

[Mia]

I flipped through it at the store the other day. I try to get all the big Batman stuff, but I'm far from a completist.

I like Grant Morrison, mostly. But I haven't enjoyed his recent pet projects, such as Seven Soldiers or Final Crisis. Outside of the excellent League of Batmen story, and the Joker prose issue, I didn't care for his pre-RIP Batman. But it wasn't facepalmingly bad.

Tony Daniel is a significant thumbs down for me. As I scanned the book, I was struck by how bad it looked. Part of it was awful coloring and sloppy inks, but there was some distractingly wonky anatomy and poses going on. I didn't pay much attention to the storytelling, does the art at least function on that level?

Finally, I know Batman actually does the dying in Final Crisis. How is this handled? Is RIP self-contained?


I was going to recommend that you pick up the story given the fact that you have not been thrilled with Morrison's recent work. I am not a big fan of his either. But I generally love his work on Batman. I find that he is one of the few modern writers who understands and gets the character. I love the fact that he writes Batman as a Renaissance man. However given the fact that you did not like Morrision's original outing, then I would suggest that you pass on the book. Or at least wait until the TPB is available.

[Choppa]

It's good

It's self-contained

It doesn't deal with the death

It actually makes sense and doesn't do a lot of stuff off-panel like in Final Crisis

[nepenthes]

It's definitly in with the "big" Batman stories of the last ten years or so so I'd recomend it just on that. It also wraps up the run rather well so you might find yourself looking at the earlier parts in a new light. and it's no where near as confusing as some people like to make out

I find that he is one of the few modern writers who understands and gets the character. I love the fact that he writes Batman as a Renaissance man.

agree with this

[pressdarlings]

Judging from your experience...stay away from it.

Not a fan. Don't mind the pre-RIP material. It's okay. But RIP was a contrived mess. Turned a lot of folks off. They refuse to even glimpse at Batman and Robin which is fantastic thus far.

[Sn4tcH]

It's real simple, and I'll give it to you straight:

If you enjoy great things, then you will enjoy R.I.P.

[Sixa]

If you enjoy great things, then you will enjoy R.I.P.

So true mate,your words brought tears to my eye:redface:

[AJM]

It's real simple, and I'll give it to you straight:

If you enjoy great things, then you will enjoy R.I.P.

Ha. Ditto.

[Captain Jim]

It's real simple, and I'll give it to you straight:

If you enjoy great things, then you will enjoy R.I.P.

Oh, brother. :rolleyes:

[Babylon23]

While I agree with others that if you didn't like Morrison's other Batman work you probably won't like RIP, I'll try to sell it to you anyway.

You said you liked the League of Batman story. Like League, RIP incorporates 'forgotten' Batman stories, ones ignored post Crisis. It also continues the story established in League, as some of the subplots introduced during that story play out in RIP. So if you liked League. this may appeal to you. However, RIP requires multiple readings to really understand everything that's going on in the story.

[Chiroptera]

While I agree with others that if you didn't like Morrison's other Batman work you probably won't like RIP, I'll try to sell it to you anyway.

You said you liked the League of Batman story. Like League, RIP incorporates 'forgotten' Batman stories, ones ignored post Crisis. It also continues the story established in League, as some of the subplots introduced during that story play out in RIP. So if you liked League. this may appeal to you. However, RIP requires multiple readings to really understand everything that's going on in the story.

Personally, I didn't find this to be true.
There are little tips of the hat and fore shadowing things you can pick up throughout Morrison's run that sort've nod at what it's building up to in RIP, but RIP itself I found to be pretty straight forward.

I've never understood why people think it's so complicated. I understood it the first time I read it, I required no real re-reading. I didn't like it, but I didn't have any trouble following the story. It didn't seem any more complex or contrived than some of the other tales told in modern major comic events. It was certainly a different perspective than the norm, but nothing that was difficult to grasp on the first reading, unless you just don't happen to be paying attention when you read it.

[pressdarlings]

However, RIP requires multiple readings to really understand everything that's going on in the story.

So what is your take on it?

[Triforce]

I'm not a follower of Batman as well, I just pick up some of the bigger stories, same as the original poster. Morisson's Batman run seemed big enough to me, so I picked up the Batman and Son and The Resurrection of Rhas Al Ghul TPB's. I'm planning to get RIP as well when it's released in trade. I think the run so far is a bit awkward but still really interesting and entertaining so I'll see where it goes.

[CountAchilles]

Its has a good storyline,though the end doesn't do justice to the book.Can get confusing in a few areas.I'll suggest you buy a good quality used one.If you don't like it, just re-sell it.

It's real simple, and I'll give it to you straight:

If you enjoy great things, then you will enjoy R.I.P.

That is saying too much.

[Perkele]

If you didn't enjoy the rest of Morrison's run, I wouldn't suggest getting RIP. Morrison's run worked best as a whole, the only truly exmeplery single issue would probably have been #666, since it worked really well as a standalone issue, even if it did connect to everything else. Morrison likes to write... comic novels, was it? I think I read an interview once where he referred to writing like that.

I remember when I first read RIP; I was scratching my head like a lot of people. I then decided to go back and reread Morrison's run from the start and everything made sense after that to me (mainly because I had forgotten the majority of things involving the Black Hand and everything else he had been building towards).

I really enjoyed his run on the whole, but would not suggest RIP if you are unwilling to to read the rest of Morrison's run. I think it worked best as a "novel". Then again, it's obviously not the final resolution to Morrison's Batman epic, but more like the end of a chapter, so this is why some people probably didn't like the way it ended, expecting a more definite ending. I sort of feel the same way, but because I feel this isn't the true ending of Morrison's novel, was not as displeased with it as some. In fact, all in all, I quite liked it, but you need to have the proper context. It is not new reader friendly I guess is what I'm trying to say.