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quillero
07-31-2009, 06:22 PM
Fraction interview. IGN

http://comics.ign.com/articles/100/1009784p1.html

CrimsonComedian
07-31-2009, 09:28 PM
"IGN Comics: Why didn't Osborn just attempt to bring the real Xavier in as he did with Emma and just try to hide the darker aspects of the Dark X-Men project from him?

Fraction: Do you read X-Men Legacy?

IGN Comics: Yes.

Fraction: He did.

IGN Comics: I've been wondering what exactly happened in that encounter. I assume there's a story to be told about what happens between Osborn approaching Xavier and having Mystique take his place?

Fraction: I think the story is probably that he says, "No". I don't know if that's going to be dealt with explicitly in the Dark X-Men mini or what exactly. We can connect the dots pretty easily, though. That story might be told some other time. But it makes sense that Xavier would say no to a lunatic like Osborn. "

Weak by Fraction. How was the interviewer supposed to know that Osborn made the gesture to explain to Xavier that what he was doing was right? I sure as hell didn't. There was no way to, one scene in Legacy we see Osborn coming off a Heli to meet Xavier, the next time we see Xavier he's in Utopia in a prison cell. He basically admitted to the interviewer that he has no plans on explaining what went down between Xavier and Osborn. Sure I can assume what happened based on what I saw before(X-men Legacy #225) and after (Utopia), but he's seriously not going to provide a little more detail about their encounter? What the hell?

DeniseXfrost
07-31-2009, 09:48 PM
The interviewer is dumb.

kawaspike
07-31-2009, 09:52 PM
I think Fractions is a pretty good writer

Slung
07-31-2009, 10:17 PM
I think Fractions is a pretty good writer

Thank you for your input, Matt.

boodha
07-31-2009, 10:30 PM
Thank you for your input, Matt.

lol!

But even if it is kinda random, I like the notion, that Wolvie is not there when the whole things goes down. It's like the first time, Logan's 500+ different obligations and operations play out to be a problem, AFIK.

On a different note, this interview is sorta useless, seeing as Fraction really ain't got sh1t to say.

Mencemor
07-31-2009, 10:38 PM
Wait...Fraction didn't actually think that Mystique as the Dark X-Men Prof. X was gonna surprise anybody, did he??

long live jean grey
07-31-2009, 10:45 PM
"IGN Comics: Why didn't Osborn just attempt to bring the real Xavier in as he did with Emma and just try to hide the darker aspects of the Dark X-Men project from him?

Fraction: Do you read X-Men Legacy?

IGN Comics: Yes.

Fraction: He did.

IGN Comics: I've been wondering what exactly happened in that encounter. I assume there's a story to be told about what happens between Osborn approaching Xavier and having Mystique take his place?

Fraction: I think the story is probably that he says, "No". I don't know if that's going to be dealt with explicitly in the Dark X-Men mini or what exactly. We can connect the dots pretty easily, though. That story might be told some other time. But it makes sense that Xavier would say no to a lunatic like Osborn. "

Weak by Fraction. How was the interviewer supposed to know that Osborn made the gesture to explain to Xavier that what he was doing was right? I sure as hell didn't. There was no way to, one scene in Legacy we see Osborn coming off a Heli to meet Xavier, the next time we see Xavier he's in Utopia in a prison cell. He basically admitted to the interviewer that he has no plans on explaining what went down between Xavier and Osborn. Sure I can assume what happened based on what I saw before(X-men Legacy #225) and after (Utopia), but he's seriously not going to provide a little more detail about their encounter? What the hell?

It's Fraction combined with the "We don't have to explain it. It's magic."-era of Marvel.

What did you expect?

Omega Alpha
07-31-2009, 10:48 PM
Wait...Fraction didn't actually think that Mystique as the Dark X-Men Prof. X was gonna surprise anybody, did he??

He did.

And funny that he didn't bother reading Dark X-men #1. Even though it's been out for weeks now. Shows how much he bothers to follow continuity and other writers stuff:rolleyes:

Personamanx
07-31-2009, 10:53 PM
The interview did not really give us anything new.

direction9
07-31-2009, 11:12 PM
It's Fraction combined with the "We don't have to explain it. It's magic."-era of Marvel.

What did you expect?

that doesn't make a bit of sense.

boodha
07-31-2009, 11:15 PM
that doesn't make a bit of sense.

Your post doesn't, either. :tongue:

misterrhys
08-01-2009, 01:10 AM
I don't understand what the big deal is about not showing us how things got to where they are, I'd rather they just jumped into the action. I also don't think it's telling of a current Marvel era. Plenty of classic X-Men stories will begin with someone being being held captive or whatever and you just accept that that has happened, that's the situation that the X-Men find themselves in, now let's get on with the story.

Stuff happens off panel. That's OK.

worstblogever
08-01-2009, 05:01 AM
I imagine the X-Men: Legacy storyline is what Fraction knew would be there so his Mystique "swerve" would still be in play for another month. Not that anyone was fooled.

When that part of the story gets resolved, though... . He's not writing it in Utopia, apparently (unless he's playing dumb) and he at least was guessing Dark X-Men: The Beginning...

They still haven't explained the recruitment of Mystique, Jason Aaron supposedly gave an interview that she'd have a story in DXMTB. You'd have to figure Xavier would be given a section of that issue, as well. Because, well... Daken, Cloak, Dagger, Weapon Omega were all in #2. Namor, Mimic, and Dark Beast were in #1. That leaves just Emma, Xavier, and Mystique as the folks on the team with no feature, yet. They gotta fill that third issue with somethin'.

There could be a myriad of things you could take Fraction to task on, as far as his X-Men work is concerned... but I don't think this interview is necessarily one of them. That's just me, though.

ExodusCloak
08-01-2009, 05:24 AM
that doesn't make a bit of sense.

His posts never make any sense.

The interviewer is dumb.

Indeed, those were silly questions.

yanapryde
08-01-2009, 07:43 AM
Sure I can assume what happened based on what I saw before(X-men Legacy #225) and after (Utopia), but he's seriously not going to provide a little more detail about their encounter? What the hell?

Ya.
I want my stories spoon fed to me and if I dribble details, please...wipe them with a towel and tell me I'm pretty.
I have to infer and come to my own conclusions? Fraction is a CAD!

hee hee.

Slant
08-01-2009, 07:47 AM
Its almost like that time people bitched when Angel appeared at the beginning of Messiah Complex.

I still demand an Issue of Angel flying to the Mansion plz.

nikbackm
08-01-2009, 07:54 AM
Not to worry....

http://marvel.com/catalog/?id=12593
The conclusion to the anthology that illustrates the conception of the Dark X-Men. If you’re reading UTOPIA and think you know the whole story, think again. In this issue, Emma Frost convinces Namor to join the team. And learn where Professor X fits into UTOPIA. Also, witness the first Marvel Comic with art by JOCK

As for Mystique, she's there as well:

http://marvel.com/news/comicstories.9027.Introducing~dot~~dot~~dot~Jock

worstblogever
08-01-2009, 07:56 AM
Not to worry....

http://marvel.com/catalog/?id=12593


As for Mystique, she's there as well:

http://marvel.com/news/comicstories.9027.Introducing~dot~~dot~~dot~Jock

And there you have it. Thanks, man.

Filthy Mutie
08-01-2009, 08:33 AM
Not to worry....

http://marvel.com/catalog/?id=12593


As for Mystique, she's there as well:

http://marvel.com/news/comicstories.9027.Introducing~dot~~dot~~dot~Jock

The page with Mysty as Spidey was pretty rad. I look forward to reading Norman's flip-out dialogue.

DeniseXfrost
08-01-2009, 10:32 AM
Not to worry....

http://marvel.com/catalog/?id=12593


As for Mystique, she's there as well:

http://marvel.com/news/comicstories.9027.Introducing~dot~~dot~~dot~Jock
Mystique is so fierce!

Filthy Mutie
08-01-2009, 10:50 AM
Mystique is so fierce!

I want a shirt with the pic of her shooting the sky printed on it.

MuhollandDriver
08-01-2009, 10:59 AM
That artwork of Mystique is blazing.

Leirus
08-01-2009, 11:21 AM
Ah, Mystique... I love you, crazy b!tch...

Robbiebob_16
08-01-2009, 01:09 PM
I have "meh" feelings baout this interview. I thought Fraction blew the first answer. I really wnat to know the dynamic of Scott and Emma's relationship now, and it's not being addressed. Isn't he pissed or hurt? Is Emma doing a bit of an inside job and he's in on it? It makes very little sense to me. Hopefully Fraction brings it up soon.

Filthy Mutie
08-01-2009, 01:25 PM
I have "meh" feelings baout this interview. I thought Fraction blew the first answer. I really wnat to know the dynamic of Scott and Emma's relationship now, and it's not being addressed. Isn't he pissed or hurt? Is Emma doing a bit of an inside job and he's in on it? It makes very little sense to me. Hopefully Fraction brings it up soon.

Welcome to every Matt Fraction interview about the X-Men.

Robbiebob_16
08-01-2009, 01:31 PM
Welcome to every Matt Fraction interview about the X-Men.
GAH! I know... I saw an interview of him at SDCC and he looked stoned out of his mind. Can someone else do his press? maybe?

direction9
08-01-2009, 01:39 PM
I have "meh" feelings baout this interview. I thought Fraction blew the first answer. I really wnat to know the dynamic of Scott and Emma's relationship now, and it's not being addressed. Isn't he pissed or hurt? Is Emma doing a bit of an inside job and he's in on it? It makes very little sense to me. Hopefully Fraction brings it up soon.

having scott see her on the monitor an calmly say to himself "alright emma.... alright" was perfect. he's surprised at how far she was willing to take it and he's ready to meet her there. that's all i need to know right now. it's not like we don't know that this is coming to a head within the next three issues of utopia.

nikbackm
08-01-2009, 01:58 PM
I have "meh" feelings baout this interview. I thought Fraction blew the first answer. I really wnat to know the dynamic of Scott and Emma's relationship now, and it's not being addressed. Isn't he pissed or hurt? Is Emma doing a bit of an inside job and he's in on it? It makes very little sense to me. Hopefully Fraction brings it up soon.

Why? Do you expect him to give everything away in advance?

Slant
08-01-2009, 02:01 PM
I guess Fraction is supposed to tell us whether or not Emma is doing an inside job in an interview midway through the story.

Robbiebob_16
08-01-2009, 02:30 PM
Why? Do you expect him to give everything away in advance?
No, I understand he can't divulge all the details, nor would I want him too. I just wish he would clarify if Scott is even remotely pissed off about it. Right now, it just seems like he's in on it, and I don't think Fraction is that obvious.

I guess Fraction is supposed to tell us whether or not Emma is doing an inside job in an interview midway through the story.
I have a feeling it's just Emma being Emma. You can take the girl out of the Hellfire Club, but you can't take the Hellfire Club out of the girl. That kind of thing.

Free-Man
08-01-2009, 02:34 PM
No, I understand he can't divulge all the details, nor would I want him too. I just wish he would clarify if Scott is even remotely pissed off about it. Right now, it just seems like he's in on it, and I don't think Fraction is that obvious.

Yeah, that's my view. For someone who's just been betrayed by his lover and may have his dreams killed, he seems pretty nonchalant.

nikbackm
08-01-2009, 02:48 PM
No, I understand he can't divulge all the details, nor would I want him too. I just wish he would clarify if Scott is even remotely pissed off about it. Right now, it just seems like he's in on it, and I don't think Fraction is that obvious.

But if Fraction says whether Scott is pissed or not, he pretty much gives it away doesn't he?

The Isolationist
08-01-2009, 02:55 PM
Did anyone else ever notice everyone is always pounding on Beast? It's like in every story where it can be done, he's either killed, beaten badly or like here, tortured, which is even more noticeable since he's a very kind character despite all this. Who else would they put up for experiencing such gruesome effects of a depowering device...

Robbiebob_16
08-01-2009, 02:56 PM
But if Fraction says whether Scott is pissed or not, he pretty much gives it away doesn't he?
But in the comics he's not pissed off! That's what leads me to believe that Scott knows what's going on and is in control. And like I said, Fraction isn't the greatest writer but he knows how to be subtle.

long live jean grey
08-01-2009, 03:00 PM
But if Fraction says whether Scott is pissed or not, he pretty much gives it away doesn't he?

So is the point of the story that we don't know if Cyke is in on Emma's plan?

I thought this was one of those lame "THERE'S A TRAITOR IN THE X_MEN!" stories.

Free-Man
08-01-2009, 03:01 PM
So is the point of the story that we don't know if Cyke is in on Emma's plan?

I thought this was one of those lame "THERE'S A TRAITOR IN THE X_MEN!" stories.

Hmm....that still might be the case. On Fraction's twitter, he mentioned a "funeral scene" at the end of the story...

Omega Alpha
08-01-2009, 03:01 PM
But if Fraction says whether Scott is pissed or not, he pretty much gives it away doesn't he?

Not really. First, because the comic doesn't show him pissed off at all.

Second, because Fraction himself says in the interview that he outright lied about something else to not spoil anything.

Robbiebob_16
08-01-2009, 03:05 PM
Hmm....that still might be the case. On Fraction's twitter, he mentioned a "funeral scene" at the end of the story...
Uh oh.... I guess the Omega Machine got the best of Beast....

Not really. First, because the comic doesn't show him pissed off at all.

Second, because Fraction himself says in the interview that he outright lied about something else to not spoil anything.
My point exactly. That naughty Fraction is a tease!:biggrin:

nikbackm
08-01-2009, 03:10 PM
But in the comics he's not pissed off! That's what leads me to believe that Scott knows what's going on and is in control. And like I said, Fraction isn't the greatest writer but he knows how to be subtle.

Isn't Cyclops supposed to be the type who does not display his emotions overly much? I don't think he'd want his underlings to see him with his pants down in case he was not in on it.

Ryan W
08-01-2009, 03:12 PM
Ya.
I want my stories spoon fed to me and if I dribble details, please...wipe them with a towel and tell me I'm pretty.
I have to infer and come to my own conclusions? Fraction is a CAD!

hee hee.

Right, because asking for shared continuity between books that are part of the same line and use the same characters is completely irrational. :rolleyes:

Robbiebob_16
08-01-2009, 03:13 PM
Isn't Cyclops supposed to be the type who does not display his emotions overly much? I don't think he'd want his underlings to see him with his pants down in case he was not in on it.
Haha, good point. I see what you're saying about him being a pretty stern guy. Still, even a panel dedicated to Scott being glum about Emma or nervous would have sufficed.

Free-Man
08-01-2009, 03:16 PM
Uh oh.... I guess the Omega Machine got the best of Beast....

We can hope, right?:tongue:
But for some reason, the first thing I thought upon hearing that was "Uh oh, Emma".

Let's hope Fraction can put down the blunt long enough to steer clear of a predictable ending.

nikbackm
08-01-2009, 03:19 PM
Haha, good point. I see what you're saying about him being a pretty stern guy. Still, even a panel dedicated to Scott being glum about Emma or nervous would have sufficed.

That does seem to be telling us something right? But why Fraction confirm it beyond a doubt at this point when there are still bound to be people somewhere expecting/hoping Emma to become "evil" again. No need to dash their hopes so soon. :biggrin:

Perfection/Emma 2
08-01-2009, 03:32 PM
Okay this interview said it all, Matt Fraction is my missing clone. He shows all the signs and has many of my lack luster personality Lazy. Arrogant, and doesn't really give a shit. At least he making that money:biggrin:

DarthCyclopsRLZ
08-01-2009, 03:33 PM
That does seem to be telling us something right? But why Fraction confirm it beyond a doubt at this point when there are still bound to be people somewhere expecting/hoping Emma to become "evil" again. No need to dash their hopes so soon. :biggrin:

You mean the marks saying she'd either turn evil or usurp leadership of the x-men?

Screw them, lol. F**k with their minds all you can, Matt. Watching them go on and on about how their bitterness-fueled wishlist qualify as actual theories is an almost religious experience.

Home made ectoplasm
08-01-2009, 03:38 PM
You mean the marks saying she'd either turn evil or usurp leadership of the x-men?

Screw them, lol. F**k with their minds all you can, Matt. Watching them go on and on about how their bitter-fueled wishlist qualify as actual theories is an almost religious experience.

Do you have a blog? I would read it.

DarthCyclopsRLZ
08-01-2009, 03:40 PM
Do you have a blog? I would read it.

Hey, I'm just acknowledging what the true fun of writing comic books is really about.

F****ng with fans' heads knowing some of them will complain no matter what.

Mr_Hellfire
08-01-2009, 07:23 PM
The interview did not really give us anything new.
That pretty much sums up EVERY interview the man ever gives.
Seriously, he's more repetitive than Tyra in all 13 cycles of America's Next Top Model.

And earlier this week I saw a video interview of him and I have to ask what is a "bro" doing writing Uncanny?

RandomDave
08-01-2009, 09:00 PM
Interesting examples of Scott compartmentalizing the situation currently in Uncanny, and Forever, and in X-Force just before the time trip. He always gets the job done no matter how bad he may feel, which is why writers will always screw up his relationships. He is an incredibly easy target for personal disasters.


On the WAG fan front, I think Cyclops is in the dark, and was looking for any kind of sign or action in the TV coverage to show Emma had a plan and was still working on his side. His planning at this point would include taking Emma down, and deal with the consequences after Osborne and his troops leave.

Robbiebob_16
08-02-2009, 07:29 AM
We can hope, right?:tongue:
But for some reason, the first thing I thought upon hearing that was "Uh oh, Emma".

Let's hope Fraction can put down the blunt long enough to steer clear of a predictable ending.
HAH! Not a Beast fan I take it?:tongue: I think Emma is safe for now. For now.

That does seem to be telling us something right? But why Fraction confirm it beyond a doubt at this point when there are still bound to be people somewhere expecting/hoping Emma to become "evil" again. No need to dash their hopes so soon. :biggrin:
True that. I'm just jumping the gun. I do so want her to be evil again....!

Anna
08-02-2009, 09:49 PM
Wait...Fraction didn't actually think that Mystique as the Dark X-Men Prof. X was gonna surprise anybody, did he??

It was as surprising as finding out she was Foxx. :rolleyes: