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Darthbobvilla
07-28-2009, 09:13 AM
Who thinks this guy is underated right now?

I like his war of kings and his nova stuff that he did recently, I just wish he would get a Big book so that he can finally get the respect he deserves. He reminds me a bit of John Byrne. He has a solid pen and tremendous potential. C'mon Marvel! use this guy properly!

peace!

Spidey616
07-28-2009, 09:19 AM
Loved his GLA art and his current cosmic stuff as well.

The Sword Is Drawn
07-28-2009, 09:24 AM
I'm with Spidey616 on this.

I'm a big fan of Pelletier. I just wish they'd keep him on a casmic book long-term.

Very under-rated.

XPac
07-28-2009, 09:26 AM
I wish they would have put him on Mighty Avengers.

The Sword Is Drawn
07-28-2009, 09:35 AM
I wish they would have put him on Mighty Avengers.

Actually, that would be pretty bloody brilliant.

Keith_Martineau
07-28-2009, 09:38 AM
He's absolutely under-rated.

He may end up being this generations Alan Davis. He's got the visual flair, clear storytelling, and the flexibility to do drama and comedy, but with his own distinctive look.

If they don't put him back on Guardians of the Galaxy post-WoK, then it's time for a higher profile gig like a Mighty Avengers or maybe even on the ASM rotating squad.

Deadpooligan
07-28-2009, 09:43 AM
Who thinks this guy is underated right now?

I like his war of kings and his nova stuff that he did recently, I just wish he would get a Big book so that he can finally get the respect he deserves. He reminds me a bit of John Byrne. He has a solid pen and tremendous potential. C'mon Marvel! use this guy properly!

peace!

They are using him properly. He's drawing a cosmic opera book in space.

Which is in the vein of the best stuff he's ever done;

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/4/73759-9212-70686-1-negation_super.jpg

pariah-1972
07-28-2009, 09:58 AM
It was love at first sight with me when i first saw his work on the Exiles it's super pretty and lush but doesn't discount the story telling at all.
his women look like real women and not comic book sex bots.

If i wish rich i would have gotten everything he has ever done by know.

stingerman
07-28-2009, 10:00 AM
Who thinks this guy is underated right now?

I like his war of kings and his nova stuff that he did recently, I just wish he would get a Big book so that he can finally get the respect he deserves. He reminds me a bit of John Byrne. He has a solid pen and tremendous potential. C'mon Marvel! use this guy properly!

peace!

Shhhh...don't tell anyone as we don't want him getting pulled off the cosmic titles! :smile:

bebop
07-28-2009, 10:50 AM
He's absolutely under-rated.

He may end up being this generations Alan Davis. He's got the visual flair, clear storytelling, and the flexibility to do drama and comedy, but with his own distinctive look.

If they don't put him back on Guardians of the Galaxy post-WoK, then it's time for a higher profile gig like a Mighty Avengers or maybe even on the ASM rotating squad.

He reminds me a lot of Alan Davis, actually. I guees Pelletier likes Davis but at the same time heīs not just imitating him (I hope). I have liked Pelletier on Exiles, too and on Fantastic Four he did a terrific run. Iīd like to see him on Avengers, Spidey or even X-Men. Heīs good and heīs not slow.

Iron Maiden
07-28-2009, 11:14 AM
I like his work a lot too, the first time I was made aware of him was on the FF title during Civil War. That was a fairly high profile gig.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/IronMaiden99/FFsplash.jpg

pariah-1972
07-28-2009, 11:42 AM
I like his work a lot too, the first time I was made aware of him was on the FF title during Civil War. That was a fairly high profile gig.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/IronMaiden99/FFsplash.jpgwho is the blonde with the big breasts and the bangs?

Iron Maiden
07-28-2009, 11:45 AM
That's a Sue from a future timeline.

pariah-1972
07-28-2009, 11:49 AM
That's a Sue from a future timeline.
I guess i didn't notice the other FF's there cause i was too busy checking out the other Sue:redface:

Arschloch
07-28-2009, 11:51 AM
Yes, he's underrated. He's at least equal to Divito.

strathcona
07-28-2009, 12:13 PM
Yes, he's underrated. He's at least equal to Divito.

I was just about to say that Pelletier and DiVito are probably my two favourite artists working at Marvel today.... and I wish Clayton Henry would do more work for Marvel too.

randomengine
07-28-2009, 12:15 PM
Paul Pelletier is one of the best pencillers that Marvel has. Fire Greg Land, put him on X-Men.

FlyingFox
07-28-2009, 12:20 PM
I just wish he would get a Big book so that he can finally get the respect he deserves.

I'd rather him stay on one of the cosmic books rather than some crap that sells well like one of the X-books.

Methalius
07-28-2009, 01:20 PM
I really enjoyed his work on Guardians of the Galaxy and was extremely disappointed in the art on the most recent issue. I'd like to see him stay full time with Guardians of the Galaxy but I would also like to see him do some work on other titles.

StoneGold
07-28-2009, 02:16 PM
Sure, but not as much as Pat Zircher.

bobbydrake50
07-28-2009, 02:21 PM
You should all try his run on the Outsiders from a fair few years back - I think its pretty much self contained (about 17 issues)? Also the Legionnaires Elseworlds annual he did was great too!

seeso
07-28-2009, 02:41 PM
Absolutely under-rated. Love his work, and have since Negation. One of my favorites!

grphxkindaguy
07-28-2009, 02:44 PM
I've loved PP's stuff since his Outsiders days in the 90's. He got me back into reading Exiles (the tail end of vol 1) b/c he was doing the artwork.

His Negation work for Crossgen is by far his best stuff IMO, w/his GOTG coming a close second. The man was BORN to draw space opera stuff! :eek: :biggrin:

MythicBrawn
07-28-2009, 07:43 PM
ABSOLUTELY. My avatar comes from his work on Negation. I LOVED that book. It's too bad that Crossgen folded. I've seen his work on other stuff and it's still as good.

DasPoppen
07-28-2009, 07:49 PM
Pelletier is great. Hope he will be back at GotG. Kev Walker should return to Nova.

Fatguy
07-28-2009, 08:45 PM
Sure, but not as much as Pat Zircher.

Zircher is the poster child for underrated artists. He should have a much higher profile.

Pelletier....he's ok, but he lacks excitement for me. I put him in the same category as the Eaton, Bagley, and Grummetts of the world. Solid but unremarkable.

pariah-1972
07-28-2009, 09:06 PM
Zircher is the poster child for underrated artists. He should have a much higher profile.

Pelletier....he's ok, but he lacks excitement for me. I put him in the same category as the Eaton, Bagley, and Grummetts of the world. Solid but unremarkable.:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: I hate Bagley and Grummett god awful .

Scott Eaton is a underrated i'm sure cause he has a very classic style.

pharoahe22
07-29-2009, 06:24 AM
Zircher is the poster child for underrated artists. He should have a much higher profile.

Pelletier....he's ok, but he lacks excitement for me. I put him in the same category as the Eaton, Bagley, and Grummetts of the world. Solid but unremarkable.

I'd have to agree. It's good work, but sometimes, especially depending on the colorist, it falls a little flat for me. I liked his work on GoTG, but some of his WoK stuff falls flat for my tastes. I agree with the Eaton & Alan Davis comparisons.
Pat Zircher is dope...very underrated.

Will.S
07-29-2009, 07:35 AM
Paul's stuff is solid as a rock, his stuff now actually reminds me of early Dale Keown on Hulk.

I'd definitely say it's among the Eaton, Bagley, and Grummet lot of really solid and dependable artists who know how to tell a story remarkably well. On a stylistic level though I would say Paul is above Eaton and Grummet and probably on par with Bagley for me since his and Bagley's styles stand out a bit more on the whole.

I hope to see him on Guardians again once War of Kings ends, either there or on Nova.

Brother Zag
07-29-2009, 01:25 PM
Yeah! Love Pelletier's work! He's not underated in my rating system :)

CyberCoyote
07-29-2009, 01:34 PM
Paul Pelletier is my favorite illustrator working today, without a doubt. He gets a little stylized from time to time with women's faces but his layouts and storytelling are as good as it gets. I certainly hope he can come back to Guardians, but it looks like long after WoK is over the current guy is on that title (and that's not a good thing)

I guess it'd be a good thing if he got a top 10 book like an Avengers title, but I don't think I actually buy anything that's 'hot' so it'd be a letdown.

bloodyarts
07-29-2009, 03:04 PM
Truth be told, when he replaced Juan Bobillo (think that was his name..) on She-Hulk, I hated him. Juan's style fit She-Hulk like a glove, and Paul's style was a jarring and unwelcome experience.

However, since then, I have found an appreciation for his work, and I kind of agree with someone here that he might be this generation's Alan Davis, who is one of my favorite comic artists of all time..

I even like his work on She-Hulk now, but only if I don't look at Juan's books first. Paul is still a bit jarring for me, but on his own merits, he's very good. War of Kings is looking spectacular.

strathcona
07-29-2009, 03:13 PM
Zircher is the poster child for underrated artists. He should have a much higher profile.

Pelletier....he's ok, but he lacks excitement for me. I put him in the same category as the Eaton, Bagley, and Grummetts of the world. Solid but unremarkable.

See... I put them all in the same category as Pelletier as well... all great, but under appreciated.

bebop
07-29-2009, 05:47 PM
He has a classic feel and draws influences from Jack Kirby, Sal and John Buscema, Gil Kane, Alan Davis and Ross Andru. Also, the inker on WoK tries his best to emulate Sinnott. Pure classic stuff!

CyberCoyote
07-29-2009, 05:55 PM
He has a classic feel and draws influences from Jack Kirby, Sal and John Buscema, Gil Kane, Alan Davis and Ross Andru. Also, the inker on WoK tries his best to emulate Sinnott. Pure classic stuff!

A noble thing to try, but emulating Sinnott is like trying to emulate God. But now you're making me go back and look at those inks..

agrich
07-29-2009, 07:03 PM
I like him a lot, but it makes me sad that people rip some other cosmic artists by comparison. I think both Brad Walker and Wes Craig have been great on Guardians; the book has been fortunate to have quality art almost throughout.

Babylon23
07-29-2009, 07:58 PM
Pelletier is better than most of the higher profile artists at Marvel IMO. I'd certainly rank him higher than guys like Mike Deodato and David Finch. Pelletier is an excellent storyteller and dramatic artist. Unlike a lot of modern artists, his work reads like a story rather than a series of pinups.

Will.S
07-29-2009, 08:04 PM
He has a classic feel and draws influences from Jack Kirby, Sal and John Buscema, Gil Kane, Alan Davis and Ross Andru. Also, the inker on WoK tries his best to emulate Sinnott. Pure classic stuff!

A noble thing to try, but emulating Sinnott is like trying to emulate God. But now you're making me go back and look at those inks..
To be honest with you guys, I hate Joe Sinnott's inking. It just makes everything look generic or worse.

I like him a lot, but it makes me sad that people rip some other cosmic artists by comparison. I think both Brad Walker and Wes Craig have been great on Guardians; the book has been fortunate to have quality art almost throughout.
I really liked Brad Walker and Wes Craig's contributions in Guardians. Carlos Magno's however, I did not. I mean seriously, how does that guy keep getting work?

Brother Zag
07-29-2009, 08:10 PM
I like him a lot, but it makes me sad that people rip some other cosmic artists by comparison. I think both Brad Walker and Wes Craig have been great on Guardians; the book has been fortunate to have quality art almost throughout.

Agreed! I've been arguing the merits of Craig's art against naysayers over at the Cosmic Book News boards...

PympMyQuinjet
07-29-2009, 08:20 PM
Wasn't a huge fan of his FF stuff, but I LOVE his GOTG work.

FlyingFox
07-30-2009, 07:19 AM
I like him a lot, but it makes me sad that people rip some other cosmic artists by comparison. I think both Brad Walker and Wes Craig have been great on Guardians; the book has been fortunate to have quality art almost throughout.

I think Brad Walker is great, Wes Craig not so much. I was honestly sad to see Brad leave. It wouldn't have bothered me at all if he replaced Paul Pelletier.

Brother Zag
07-30-2009, 08:35 AM
I think Brad Walker is great, Wes Craig not so much. I was honestly sad to see Brad leave. It wouldn't have bothered me at all if he replaced Paul Pelletier.
Why so either/or? Walker was dissed by so many people, I felt it was unfair -- he had some great work in GotG! I'm glad to see you stick up for him.

Craig's art is excellent in quality and execution. It's fine not to like it, but it's not his art that's at fault, it's your subjective reaction to it that causes you not to appreciate it, which is fine. If we all liked the same thing, it would get mighty boring! There's a difference between great art and "what I like", is all I'm saying.

jam
07-30-2009, 09:42 AM
Just wanted to say I've been a fan of Pelletier since I first set eyes on his artwork ... when would that have been? I feel like he's been around a while. His style has evolved over the years.

I don't want him to leave GotG either, but I would love for him to get a high profile gig for a while.

I really enjoyed his work on the FF along with McDuffie. I thought it was one of the best FF runs in quite a while. I was sorry to see them bumped for Millar and Hitch.

FanboyStranger
07-30-2009, 11:10 AM
Pelletier is a very solid artist with very solid storytelling, which is the most important thing about being a successful comics artist, in my opinion. I wouldn't say that he has developed a particular personal style that would place him in the 'great' artist's category yet, but as many have pointed out in this thread, his art has evolved over the years. I hope he stays on GotG for a long time as his art is a big part of its overall quality, and it is a great book all around. (I actually kinda liked Wes Craig's recent fill-in. At first, I was thinking "what the eff is this', but further I got into the issue, the more it grew on me.)

Zircher, in my opinion, was the last 'solid' artist that has really upped the ante in the past few years, based on Terror, Inc. and Thor: Ages of Thunder. He's gone from a solid, steady artist to someone on the verge of greatness. (Before him, I guess I would say it was Ryan Sook, who transformed from a Mignola clone to a very slick, very stylish artist more along the lines of Adam Hughes. Immonen comes to mind as well-- refining his line until he finally broke through for me with NextWave.)

You can devolve as well... cough... cough... Scott McDaniel... cough.

Series5Ranger
07-30-2009, 11:39 AM
They are using him properly. He's drawing a cosmic opera book in space.

Which is in the vein of the best stuff he's ever done;

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/4/73759-9212-70686-1-negation_super.jpg

If you can get your hands on it, Negation was the best book by Crossgen.

bebop
07-30-2009, 12:32 PM
[QUOTE=Will.S;9367337]To be honest with you guys, I hate Joe Sinnott's inking. It just makes everything look generic or worse.

QUOTE]

Iīm with you, and you donīt have to like what I like. Just a note, I know Sinnottīs inks may look generic. Comparing with other inkers from that era, styles are not that alike. Those who came afterwards took his influence, making his style look generic.

LordAllMighty
07-30-2009, 03:21 PM
Yes, he is underrated:frown:

Don't even have to read the rest of the post

mightyness
07-30-2009, 03:43 PM
If you can get your hands on it, Negation was the best book by Crossgen.

This is by far one of my favorite works by Paul and Tony Bedard. Great series.

Harold of the Rocks
07-30-2009, 04:17 PM
Sure, I think Pelletier is bit underrated. He's one of my favorite artists in the industry. I thought his Fantastic Four run was beautiful (and think that run was underrated, by the way) and love 'War Of Kings'. That series of panels where Crystal tells Lorna about how no one has any illusions about the political nature or her marriage to Ronan, while Ronan overhears and walks away dejected was awesome. As some of you have said, he's a really good visual storyteller, that scene comes to mind as an example. I don't read any other cosmic titles, so I'd selfishly prefer him off of GotG and doing something I do read... though he is definitely great doing cosmic stuff. New Avengers or Amazing Spider-Man would be great, but whover suggested him on Mighty Avengers (XPac?) - brilliant, as I'm quite happy with the artwork on most other books I read... but Mighty needs a little something more to make it feel like a major player. Pelletier's pencils would give Mighty Avengers a look well-suited to that book.

I also think Zircher is underrated. I loved his work on Iron Man a few years ago. I tend to follow characters in my buying habits, and less so for specific talent... what's he been up to recently?

Shawn Hopkins
07-30-2009, 08:27 PM
Yeah, I've really liked his work since I first noticed it on Ex-Mutants. I'm glad to see so many other people appreciate it.

Trey
07-30-2009, 08:40 PM
He's awesome. WOK is not his best stuff though. Its below his FF and his absolute best stuff was Nova, particularly the issues involving the Technarch story-line. Awe-inspiring.

I'll add Wellinton Alves (sp) to thediscussion. He is stellar (pun intended, cosmic books, hehe)

Brother Zag
07-31-2009, 12:23 AM
Didn't read comics in the 90s, so i mostly catch up... you guys have me thinking I need to check out this "Negation"...

StoneGold
07-31-2009, 12:26 AM
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: I hate Bagley and Grummett god awful .

Scott Eaton is a underrated i'm sure cause he has a very classic style.

It's a classic style, assuming the artists he's swiping from are classics.

Will.S
07-31-2009, 09:13 PM
It's a classic style, assuming the artists he's swiping from are classics.
I'll tell you exactly who Scott Eaton's art reminds me of.

Alan Lee Weiss from these Avengers issues:

http://comicbookdb.com/graphics/comic_graphics/1/40/22912_20060117044718_large.jpg

http://comicbookdb.com/graphics/comic_graphics/1/40/22913_20060117044736_large.jpg

FlyingFox
07-31-2009, 10:33 PM
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: I hate Bagley and Grummett god awful .


Ah, finally I find someone who dislikes Bagley as much as I do. I always felt he was a bit overrated.

brotherfury
08-02-2009, 02:45 PM
I really enjoyed his work on Guardians of the Galaxy and was extremely disappointed in the art on the most recent issue. I'd like to see him stay full time with Guardians of the Galaxy but I would also like to see him do some work on other titles.

this is exactly what i was going to say!