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HulkSmash666
07-22-2009, 01:27 AM
As the title states.

Who do you think make the list for the Top 10 telepaths?

This is telepathic power only, and feel free to add their feats as to why they make the list. This is also based on their normal levels of telepatic power, and not on instances where they are powered up for whatever reason. Normal operating power levels.

Note- Excluding high-end cosmics and gods.

Here's my list:

1- Charles Xavier
2- Shadow King
3- Cassandra Nova
4- Cable
5- Emma Frost
6- Moondragon
7- Exodus
8- Mr Sinister
9- Rachel Grey
10- Quentin Quire

I'm not 100% on all the telepaths out there, but these are the ones I know of. If there are others, please let me know, or add your own list.

XPac
07-22-2009, 06:51 AM
As the title states.

Who do you think make the list for the Top 10 telepaths?

This is telepathic power only, and feel free to add their feats as to why they make the list. This is also based on their normal levels of telepatic power, and not on instances where they are powered up for whatever reason. Normal operating power levels.

Note- Excluding high-end cosmics and gods.

Here's my list:

1- Charles Xavier
2- Shadow King
3- Cassandra Nova
4- Cable
5- Emma Frost
6- Moondragon
7- Exodus
8- Mr Sinister
9- Rachel Grey
10- Quentin Quire

I'm not 100% on all the telepaths out there, but these are the ones I know of. If there are others, please let me know, or add your own list.

There was a telepath named Gamesmaster that might deserve a spot somewhere in the top 10.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamesmaster_%28comics%29

Flâneur
07-22-2009, 06:59 AM
As the title states.

Who do you think make the list for the Top 10 telepaths?

This is telepathic power only, and feel free to add their feats as to why they make the list. This is also based on their normal levels of telepatic power, and not on instances where they are powered up for whatever reason. Normal operating power levels.

Note- Excluding high-end cosmics and gods.

Here's my list:

1- Charles Xavier
2- Shadow King
3- Cassandra Nova
4- Cable
5- Emma Frost
6- Moondragon
7- Exodus
8- Mr Sinister
9- Rachel Grey
10- Quentin Quire

I'm not 100% on all the telepaths out there, but these are the ones I know of. If there are others, please let me know, or add your own list.

All of the ones on your list, apart from Moondragon who is superior, are roughly equal to the point that ranking them is meaningless. Others of comparable power include Madelyne and Selene.

The Sword Is Drawn
07-22-2009, 07:35 AM
I'm taking that this is in current continuity terms? Because serious with The Phoenix in play Jean Grey leaps to the top of that list, and arguably would propel Rachel Summers far closer to the top too.

I'd also rank Psylocke higher into that list. Anybody who could imprison the Shadow King in her head...

LordAllMighty
07-22-2009, 07:43 AM
As the title states.

Who do you think make the list for the Top 10 telepaths?

This is telepathic power only, and feel free to add their feats as to why they make the list. This is also based on their normal levels of telepatic power, and not on instances where they are powered up for whatever reason. Normal operating power levels.

Note- Excluding high-end cosmics and gods.

Here's my list:

1- Charles Xavier
2- Shadow King
3- Cassandra Nova
4- Cable
5- Emma Frost
6- Moondragon
7- Exodus
8- Mr Sinister
9- Rachel Grey
10- Quentin Quire

I'm not 100% on all the telepaths out there, but these are the ones I know of. If there are others, please let me know, or add your own list.

I like the list, the only problem I might have is Moondragon. At the top of her game Moondragon is around Professor X and Shadow King level.

marshal99
07-22-2009, 07:50 AM
Stryfe being the clone of cable without the techno virus is a more powerful telepath than cable.

GozertheGozarian
07-22-2009, 07:56 AM
At her best Moondragon is abover Xavier. She's capable of planetary mind control and transmission.

XPac
07-22-2009, 07:57 AM
I'm taking that this is in current continuity terms? Because serious with The Phoenix in play Jean Grey leaps to the top of that list, and arguably would propel Rachel Summers far closer to the top too.

I'd also rank Psylocke higher into that list. Anybody who could imprison the Shadow King in her head...

The initial post said that it excludes cosmics, so I'm not sure than Jean or Racheal with the Phoenix Force would count though.

Sighphi
07-22-2009, 08:56 AM
1 - Doctor Strange
2 - Onslaught
3 - Sentry
4 - Proteus
5 - Madelyne Pryor
6 - Cable
7 - Marvel Boy I
8 - M
9 - Selene
10 - Apocalypse


Take out Moondragon, she is cosmic levels.

LordAllMighty
07-22-2009, 09:15 AM
At her best Moondragon is abover Xavier. She's capable of planetary mind control and transmission.

IIRC, Moondragon has controlled thousands of minds on a planetary level, while Professor X has controlled the mental energy of billions of minds twice....maybe three times. Depending on how many people he made mental contact with to gather the mental energy around the solar system to help mind fck Ego.

GozertheGozarian
07-22-2009, 09:23 AM
Moondragon controlled the entire planet Ba-Bani.

Sighphi
07-22-2009, 09:27 AM
Moondragon controlled the entire planet Ba-Bani.

Moondragon messes with Thanos and Galactus all the time.
Like i said, Moondragon should be taken out because she is cosmic.

AnthonyJ
07-22-2009, 09:54 AM
Moondragon's power levels are inconsistent, like pretty much all comic book characters; in a given story she could be presented as roughly equal to any of the people on the list without causing plausibility problems. In general this is a problem with lists like this -- power levels for superhumans are in significant part determined by the demands of the plot, and in many cases the variation is too large to make comparisons meaningful.

LordAllMighty
07-22-2009, 10:03 AM
Moondragon controlled the entire planet Ba-Bani.

IIRC, which was just a several thousand, not even close to the 8 billion mark that Xavier has handled


Moondragon's power levels are inconsistent, like pretty much all comic book characters; in a given story she could be presented as roughly equal to any of the people on the list without causing plausibility problems.

Agreed...Moony while in possession of the Mind gem has messed Xavier up with a mind blast but in another storyline she (still in possession of the Mind gem) couldn't even get pass his group mental defensive during the Infinity Wars stories. All depends on what the story needs

GozertheGozarian
07-22-2009, 10:27 AM
There's only one answer. To Rumbles!

LordAllMighty
07-22-2009, 10:38 AM
There's only one answer. To Rumbles!

lol, nice.:biggrin:

Cthulhudrew
07-22-2009, 02:51 PM
No love for Mentallo?

Phantom Druid
07-22-2009, 07:57 PM
1. Moondragon
2. Professor X
3. Jean Grey
5. Doctor Druid
6. Rachel Summers
7. Psylocke
8. Mentallo (for you Cthuludrew)
9. Leader
10. The Gorgon

Capricons
12-05-2009, 03:06 PM
Onslaught should be at the top

PyroTwilight
12-05-2009, 07:13 PM
Natalie X would likely rank somewhere in there being the most powerful telepath of the future. Well, if she wasn't dead or whatever FF 573 did to her.

tassa_kay
12-05-2009, 07:50 PM
I don't know when Emma Frost suddenly became so damned powerful, because she's a mediocre-level telepath on her best day unless Fraction is writing her.

Nate Grey needs to be on this list, for sure. He's the first person that leapt to mind other than the usual suspects.

Also, is this list *just* for telepaths, and no other kind of psychics? Because the High Evolutionary is a damned powerful psychic just based on his power-set and what it allows him to do.

Sighphi
12-05-2009, 08:29 PM
When Frost became one of the top cast members of X-men.
Recently she HAS been described as one of the top of this planet but she was nowhere near that level back in the day.

Maybe her secondary mutation pumped her up, i dont know. I dont really remember a story that would make her that strong of the top of my head.

tassa_kay
12-05-2009, 08:31 PM
Exactly what I'm saying! I love Emma as a character, and I don't doubt she's powerful... but I can think of plenty of Marvel telepaths that would thrash her.

Robbiebob_16
12-05-2009, 08:40 PM
What about the Stepford Cuckoos from Astonishing and New X-men? Those girls are mini Emmas. They deserve a spot on that list!

marshal99
12-05-2009, 09:23 PM
Moondragon messes with Thanos and Galactus all the time.
Like i said, Moondragon should be taken out because she is cosmic.

Moondragon doesn't mess with thanos at all , she can't even read his mind.

Sabrinaset
12-05-2009, 09:29 PM
Didn't Professor X pwn Moondragon in one of those Thanos wankfests he's always writing? I think it was the one with the Thanos clones but after awhile they all start looking the same to me :redface:

And I would put Onslaught at the top of the list. Would the Puppet Master rate in there somewhere? Or the Overmind?

marshal99
12-05-2009, 09:33 PM
Yeah , overmind should be up there as well. He nearly defeated the stranger via psychic assault and the stranger is a cosmic being.

pryde15
12-05-2009, 10:13 PM
When Frost became one of the top cast members of X-men.
Recently she HAS been described as one of the top of this planet but she was nowhere near that level back in the day.

Maybe her secondary mutation pumped her up, i dont know. I dont really remember a story that would make her that strong of the top of my head.

The most recent ones that showed her performing fairly impressive feats include.

-Contacting all of the mutants around the world (note that they were all not in one concentrated area since they had deserted the X-Mansion, and were now scattered).

- Sending an astral projection to Muir Island to fight Mr. Sinister from Westchester without the aid of Cerebra.

I wouldn't say she is top tier though, but she is still formidable.

nikbackm
12-06-2009, 10:00 AM
When Frost became one of the top cast members of X-men.
Recently she HAS been described as one of the top of this planet but she was nowhere near that level back in the day.

Maybe her secondary mutation pumped her up, i dont know. I dont really remember a story that would make her that strong of the top of my head.

She was stated to be one of the top telepaths some times during Generation X.

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/8885/genx16enability.th.jpg (http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/8885/genx16enability.jpg)

Gen X #16: "Enormous ability"

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/8848/genx30enpower.th.jpg (http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/8848/genx30enpower.jpg)

Gen X #30: "A telepath of enormous power"

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/7956/genx35planet.th.jpg (http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/7956/genx35planet.jpg)

Gen X #35: "One of the most powerful telepaths on the planet"

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/8325/genx42planet2.th.jpg (http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/8325/genx42planet2.jpg)

Gen X #42: "One of the most powerful psi talents on the planet"

Morrison also saw her as about equal (http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/580/99403317.png) to non-Phoenix Jean.


There are some older references (http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/1617/uncanny284suchatelepath.jpg) from her White Queen days as well, but she really did not have much screen time to show off back in the day.

In recent times Mike Carey is the one who has pushed her most as the powerful telepath she's always been described as I think, he wrote that remote fight with Sinister as previously mentioned, as well as the stalemate with Exodus, and having Exodus include her among the top five telepaths currently around.

Will.S
12-06-2009, 10:29 AM
As of current? I can only come up with a very rough estimated rank of overall power:

1) Xavier
2) Moondragon
3) Dr. Strange
4) Emma Frost
5) Psylocke
6) Exodus
7) Mr.Sinister

Cable doesn't really pack as much punch as he used to.

Kieran_Frost
12-06-2009, 10:43 AM
She was stated to be one of the top telepaths some times during Generation X.

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/8885/genx16enability.th.jpg (http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/8885/genx16enability.jpg)

Gen X #16: "Enormous ability"

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/8848/genx30enpower.th.jpg (http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/8848/genx30enpower.jpg)

Gen X #30: "A telepath of enormous power"

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/7956/genx35planet.th.jpg (http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/7956/genx35planet.jpg)

Gen X #35: "One of the most powerful telepaths on the planet"

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/8325/genx42planet2.th.jpg (http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/8325/genx42planet2.jpg)

Gen X #42: "One of the most powerful psi talents on the planet"

Morrison also saw her as about equal (http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/580/99403317.png) to non-Phoenix Jean.


There are some older references (http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/1617/uncanny284suchatelepath.jpg) from her White Queen days as well, but she really did not have much screen time to show off back in the day.

In recent times Mike Carey is the one who has pushed her most as the powerful telepath she's always been described as I think, he wrote that remote fight with Sinister as previously mentioned, as well as the stalemate with Exodus, and having Exodus include her among the top five telepaths currently around.

Awesome database. AND she was just described in last issue of Uncanny X-men (or the issue before that) as Omega level/ability.

daviddonne
12-06-2009, 12:50 PM
This post has the same problem as any of these attempts at ranking. Characters are as powerful as the story demands, and despite the overall continuity of the MU, each book is always somewhat closed off- X-Men books have their own sense of this ranking, while the FF book has its own, and the Avengers, etc. They just don't allow comparison- if there is a conflict among the most powerful telepaths in X-Men, no one's going to bother including Moondragon or Dr. Druid. And you can always exclude characters who are written as incredibly powerful in one arc or so and then fade away. As far as these discussions go, there are only a handful of universal reference points in the MU, like Xavier as for telepaths, Strange for magic users, Hulk for strength, and Richards for intelligence. Any other ranking is fluid and depends on which book you are reading, and even what particular story. I understand the motivation behind making these lists, but it's ultimately a fruitless endeavor.