J-Bolt News

[J-Bolt]

Well, I'm curious. Where is it that I'm supposed to have posted about this?
J-:eek:

Then why haven't I heard anything about either project? I don't wish to plug rival websites, but I get my comic news from a variety of sources.

[TomStillwell]

I may have gotten so pissed that I went off on him completely, but I guess it's more comfortable for him to feel that there's more something wrong with ME than he who persecutes one who does not acknowledge the faults of those he feels to commit no sin, no matter what.

If that made any sense I might be insulted.

Jim, I had a concern and I voiced it. If you can't see that, I'm sorry. I'm sorry if you took that as persecution. I thought it was pretty clear that there was no malice intended but only concern for another human being.

I'll go back to not giving a damn about you.

[MacQuarrie]

I'll go through my disk files of old e-mails and find the ones from the girl, with the link so that you can see it. Meanwhile, Mac has said he remembers it. Maybe he has the old link.

I didn't know there was an old Japanese site with the outdated info. That's interesting.

Anyway, ask Mac if he has it. And I'll go through my old e-mail files to see if I can find it.
J-:cool:
I've never seen it.

What I said was, quote, "The fan club you mentioned may have been genuine. I don't know. I've never seen it. You say it was there, and I accept that. I disagree with you as to its importance or impact."

[J-Bolt]

IT'S NOT??? CRAP!!! I seriously thought I was the first to come up with that idea so that the ending of the film would coinside with the comic stories reaching the same point. That way... both of them will be a surprise and promote each other.
DAMN!
J-:eek:

I'm not seeing your point, Lester, but I mean no offense. He's said (and it's obviously up to you whether you believe it or not) many times that he plans to release the comic at the same time as the film. It's not an unheard of strategy by any means. What am I missing? That sounds reasonable to me.

Gail

[J-Bolt]

Thank you very much, Gail...
I don't know if that's something I should do, really. It might be considered as being self-serving to me, yet again. What's your suggestion?
J-:cool:

Look, I don't know how else to say it. I would like J-bolt to succeed. MY impression is that with almost no work whatsoever and no finances spent at all, he could probably gain himself a number of fans just with his new art and a story up at Newsarama or Pulse. LOTTA movie deals come through because of Newsarama, I suspect.

I'd like to see it and I'd help if I can. It would certainly draw a lot more attention to J-Bolt than posting here or at IMDB (though I do understand both have their benefits).

And finally, let me ask everyone, I don't see any reason to call people involved with the Bombshell film, okay? If there's news, there's news, and J-bolt will post about it when he feels the time is right.

Best,

Gail

[J-Bolt]

Understood.

well im still new here on this thread/board so i dont know everything thats been said.
but you seem like a nice enough person and if you really want people to like you its best to be able to prove anything you have been promoting/bragging about.
i had more respect for you after i saw the quality of youre comic, so im sure if you dont brag about stuff that you cant back up(wich seems to be the problem)youll get along with people fine and dandy.

[J-Bolt]

True... you can't please everybody... right? I'd still like to get the pages up here in a way that looks much better, so that there's easier views to it and on it.
J-:cool:

Ah, don't give it a second thought, J. Even if your work is brilliant, not everyone is going to like every panel or splash page or script. It should suffice that most of the new art is meeting with very positive responses all around, I should think!

Gail

[MacQuarrie]

There's no need for another flame war. How about wiping his slate clean also, and just have an open forum of opinions, which include Omar's? I think that would be fair. Mac... Gail? What do you think? If Omar tones his posts down, as I have, can he have a 2nd chance, too?
J-:cool:
I don't have a big problem with Omar's tone. It's his technique I object to. We call it "bait and switch."

He makes some blatantly false claim. When challenged to defend it, he picks out some tiny little irrelevant portion of it that happens to be true and defends that, then claims that he proved his point. If anyone tries to drag him back to his original claim, he drops the conversation and changes the subject.

It's chickenshit is what it is.

But anyway, now that I realize it's all just a game to him, verbal fencing, all about scoring points and evading the other guy's points by any means necessary, now I can watch and laugh at his gamesmanship, so he doesn't bother me at all.

He's welcome to carry on all he likes as far as I'm concerned.

[J-Bolt]

Well... I always just upload anything I want to show into the main directory, so that I don't have to worry about that. Like I said, my computer was probably over-heated and I'll try again later on.
J-:cool:

I could be wrong, but I don't think your site allows remote image linking. I just tried to insert one of your images here, but it didn't work.

But if all else fails, you could always get a Photobucket account. They're free.

[J-Bolt]

That's EXACTLY the way I feel about it. I mean... my spinal condition depresses me much of the time, so if the same were to happen to me, I don't know how I'd handle it. And that's exactly what I thought when my last accident happened, last Wednesday. I'd like to think that I'd be as strong as Chris... but who really ever knows what the mental/emotional strength limit is of oneself, unless it is truly tested. You could end up being the opposite of what you said, here. We just never know the strength of our metal... but, Chris truly was a Man-Of-Steel.
J-:cool:

chris was very brave in what he did.
im sure most people in that situation would have chosen to wallow in theyre own misery (i know i would) but he decided to turn his negative into a positive even tho he recieved a lot of flack for it(dont usually see celebrities that turn into quadroplegics on tv)and pushed for legislation to help disabled people like him,
and still found the time to do odd acting/directing jobs its very brave indeed in my book and his appearance on smallville choked me up.

[J-Bolt]

LOL... wrong choice of words, I guess.:D

[QUOTE=J-Bolt I truly disagree with his conception of Christopher Reeve... [QUOTE=
john byrne gave birth to christopher reeve?:eek:

[J-Bolt]

Not at all. I'm talking DC/Warner. Today, they're saying that Joss is definitely the one, but they've said that about other writers. Next year, it could be somebody else.
J-:cool:

are you trying to infer that josh whedon has been taking 10 years to make the wonder woman movie?

[J-Bolt]

I thought he was the guy that played in the Highlander series? LOL:p

whos adrian paul?

[J-Bolt]

LOL... YES... I WAS RIGHT!!! It IS the guy from the Highlander series! Somebody get me on Jeopardy with that question!
J-:cool:

The sexiest man of this and or any other generation.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c269/trigunfan1/untitled-3.jpg

And if posting Adrian fails start calling your online friends obscenities, again in big bold colored caps.

[J-Bolt]

My point exaclty... you're assuming some excuses for DC, without hesitation. You might be trying to be funny, or such, but the point is that they're allowed 10 years or more, if the project comes out at all, but not me. I have a perfectly good reason for my delays, but still there are people that go after me.

I'm not saying that you are, or trying to nail you in any way. Please don't take this reply as such. My point is that it's believed that DC must have a damned good reason... I don't know what it is... but they MUST have a good reason for making everybody wait unnecessarily, if they get the project out at all.

Why don't people ask them why and expect an answer? And if they don't feel they HAVE to answer, why don't people avidly pursue THEM?

Again... please don't think I'm tearing into you. You just helped me make my point.
J-:cool:

Well, Joss Whedon's been a pretty busy guy, what with 3 TV shows and a movie or two, plus all the comics he's written.

As for DC itself, maybe they were spooked after Batman and Robin turned into such a piece of shit.

[TomStillwell]

My point is that it's believed that DC must have a damned good reason... I don't know what it is... but they MUST have a good reason for making everybody wait unnecessarily, if they get the project out at all.

It's because these are big budget movies where groups are investing over $100 million dollars, possibly closer to $200. That's not something you can take lightly or rush into without a product that will guarantee a return on the investment.

Batman Begins was the first really high profile and big money comic movie DC/WB made in years. Why? Because they lost their shirts on the last few Batman movies years ago. Not only did they lose money but they lost face because those movies were universally panned.

DC/WB was gun-shy and rightfully so. Surely you can understand that as being a good enough reason to wait for many years before finally pulling the trigger?

Batman Begins was a success financially and a great piece of moviemaking. DC/WB is already starting the production of the Dark Knight with casting and writing a screenplay.

They took a chance on Superman Returns and the verdict still remains to be seen on whether a sequel will be made. The financier says they are ready to do it because they think a sequel would make them about a 10% return on their investment.

Wonder Woman is a go. It's just a matter of Whedon's scheduling and casting.

DC even announced a possible Doom Patrol movie recently. I do have doubts about this one.

So again, comparing reasons DC/WB has held off on making comic movies to your delays on BombShell, is apples to oranges. You may have valid reasons. They don't invalidate DC/WB's reasons though.

[J-Bolt]

As for your first part, look up Las Vegas news for July, 1987 (and look for Jimmy Fisher Jr. and Lightning Bolt Comics) and you'll find that I had every, single news station {channels 3,8, & 13}, newspapers {LV Review-Journal & LV Sun}, autograph sessions at local comic conventions {I don't remember what convention companies those were, as it was 20 years ago}, and even a radio show appearance {I don't remember the call letters, but the station number was 97.1fm... and it was an early morning radio show}, all within 2 weeks time, one after the other... no let up.

As for the investors wanting to take control of LBC (LBE didn't exist then, as I only had planned to publish comics), how the Hell can I prove that? They were composed in meetings with the investors at their offices, homes, my home, the swap meet freelance art businesses I operated, etc. I never signed anything, as they wanted, so there's no documentation to back that up. They would get my contact information from the news organizations and contact me. How do you expect me to prove that precise one?

The previous can be easily proven... you'll even get a look at my face without the mask (at 18, though), if that thrills you enough.

As for your other questions, I LOVED them... they were quite poignant.

what are her stats?
Very simple... impact from her or upon her causes explosions proportionate to the impact. And she's invulnerable to withstand the explosions, obviously.
what are her motivations?
This one would be too long to explain, but I'll try: she is mentally imbalanced towards people who chase after others just for their looks: completely superficial people, and blames those types of people for her "condition," so they are her targets, whereas she created the revealing costume in order to lure them out as flies are lured with sugar, before they're swatted.
is she bad or good?
I consider anybody who kills as a villain, as I see those kind of things as plain black & white, so I refer to her as a villain. However, since she's a sympathetic character, film industry professionals just refer to her as an "Anti-Hero."
does she have alternate costumes?
No. This one is what she felt is perfect for luring her prey.
what's with the big gauntlets?
She uses them in order to be able to touch/move things without blowing them up. Since her body oils are absorbed into her costume, they have the same qualities as her own "condition." But, body oils don't absorb into metal, so she created the large arm gauntlets so that she can touch/move things that she doesn't intend to harm.

Does this answer all your questions, to the best of my ability?
J-:cool:

you had newspeople knocking on your door when you wer a teen?
people trying to buy LBE?

ANY PROOF of this?

J-bolt, Jim,

I beg you... cut the BS. You have people here trying to help you, by embellishing and weaving tall absurd tales with no facts to back them up... it makes people question the authenticty of your claims... especially considering your past rack record.

Just tell the Truth.

If you were to say to us...

"I'm a guy in Las Vegas who wants to make comics and I dream of one day having my comics made into a movie. I'd like help and I've been out of the loop for the past 5 years."

and drop the "president" attitude and showed a little more humility you might ingratiate yourself to us a bit more.

that's my 2 cents...

okay... something positive... tell us about Bombshell...

what are her stats?
what are her motivations?
is she bad or good?
does she have alternate costumes?
what's with the big gauntlets?

[J-Bolt]

It was felt that they had other writers "set in stone," so I still don't have any faith in it, and again, it appears that excuses are being made for a company who has no valid excuse. As for casting, if I can do it so easily, why couldn't they? PLENTY of actresses have vyed for that role. The rest of the roles are even easier. With a company as 'powerful' as them, there is no reason for ANYTHING to take "forever"... not when first time filmmakers, such as I can do it far easier and quicker.
J-:cool:

i think hes set in stone to do the movie its just the casting is taking forever!

[J-Bolt]

My most sincere apologies for mis-reading what you wrote, Mac.

I'll find those old e-mails and clear that entire problem up.

J-:cool:

I've never seen it.

What I said was, quote, "The fan club you mentioned may have been genuine. I don't know. I've never seen it. You say it was there, and I accept that. I disagree with you as to its importance or impact."

[J-Bolt]

Please... keep going on proving my point with how excuses will be found FOR THEM no matter what. And whatever those excuses are, they'll be taken as gospel, no matter if it even takes ANOTHER 10 years.
JEEZ!

It's because these are big budget movies where groups are investing over $100 million dollars, possibly closer to $200. That's not something you can take lightly or rush into without a product that will guarantee a return on the investment.

Batman Begins was the first really high profile and big money comic movie DC/WB made in years. Why? Because they lost their shirts on the last few Batman movies years ago. Not only did they lose money but they lost face because those movies were universally panned.

DC/WB was gun-shy and rightfully so. Surely you can understand that as being a good enough reason to wait for many years before finally pulling the trigger?

Batman Begins was a success financially and a great piece of moviemaking. DC/WB is already starting the production of the Dark Knight with casting and writing a screenplay.

They took a chance on Superman Returns and the verdict still remains to be seen on whether a sequel will be made. The financier says they are ready to do it because they think a sequel would make them about a 10% return on their investment.

Wonder Woman is a go. It's just a matter of Whedon's scheduling and casting.

DC even announced a possible Doom Patrol movie recently. I do have doubts about this one.

So again, comparing reasons DC/WB has held off on making comic movies to your delays on BombShell, is apples to oranges. You may have valid reasons. They doesn't invalidate DC/WB's reasons though.

[J-Bolt]

Finally! I'm finished with catching up on all the posts. Now, I might be off of here for a few days, so please... nobody think I'm ignoring your poignant questions.
J-:cool:

[Crowley]

As for your first part, look up Las Vegas news for July, 1987 (and look for Jimmy Fisher Jr. and Lightning Bolt Comics) and you'll find that I had every, single news station {channels 3,8, & 13}, newspapers {LV Review-Journal & LV Sun}, autograph sessions at local comic conventions {I don't remember what convention companies those were, as it was 20 years ago}, and even a radio show appearance {I don't remember the call letters, but the station number was 97.1fm... and it was an early morning radio show}, all within 2 weeks time, one after the other... no let up.


I googled "Las Vegas News July, 1987 Jimmy Fisher Jr. and Lightning Bolt Comics"
I get this thread.

and what's the name of the printer that giving you the 27 cents per comic printed price?

I've asked around and NO one has heard of such a deal. Other people on this forum have also questioned it.

If you're indeed serious about needing help and printing comics... you need to be straight.

[Gail Simone]

"As for anyone copying what I'm doing. As I've said more times than not, I'm sure it's just coincidence. But, I'm sure there are a few in these companies who do know of me and all I'm saying tht there is a slim, minute, so miniscule chance that it's improbable but not impossible, that they could've gotten the idea from me. You can't say there's not, in all honesty."

No, I can't, and that's perfectly fair to point out.

Gail

[Gail Simone]

<bowing> Thank you, Gail.
This accident of mine, last Wednesday, really made it important for me to voice what I think about Chris. It was extremely important to me. In writing that piece, I even put myself in a little bit of jeopardy with the film by going further into my spinal injuries description (because of insurance concerns), but I'm sure it won't bite me in the butt.
J-:cool:


Well, it was very heartfelt. If Chris Reeve isn't a hero, I don't know who is. He was a big inspiration for the Brainiac story in Bop, in fact.

Gail

[Gail Simone]

dont call me darlin' im a guy !
and the question i asked is you keep infering that joss whedon is taking ten years to do something im assuming the wonder woman movie? or maybe you meant dc is taking ten years to make a wonder woman movie? im confused...

May I call ya darlin'?

Gail

[howyadoin]

My point exaclty... you're assuming some excuses for DC, without hesitation. You might be trying to be funny, or such, but the point is that they're allowed 10 years or more, if the project comes out at all, but not me. I have a perfectly good reason for my delays, but still there are people that go after me.Not trying to be funny at all. In my opinion - based on what limited knowledge I have of the comic and movie industries - Wonder Woman's probably been on the backburner for various reasons, but getting burned on the last couple Batman movies (prior to Begins, of course) was definitely one of them, and not just something I made up on the spot.

As for people cutting DC slack, I dunno. I'm been vocal for years about how shitty the Batman movies were, and about any number of stupid things DC has done. You're hardly being singled out or persecuted.

As for people cutting Joss Whedon slack, he works his ass off and gets results. His work - which millions of us have actually seen - speaks for itself.

On the flipside, after 19 years you still haven't published even a single comic. I sat down with a few friends in 1992 and we put out 5 issues of an indie book inside of a year. And we were dirt-poor when we did it. (My annual salary at that point was $14,000 Canadian.)

[curefreak]

May I call ya darlin'?

Gail
well shucks ma'am i guess ya can if you wanna;)

[TomStillwell]

Please... keep going on proving my point with how excuses will be found FOR THEM no matter what. And whatever those excuses are, they'll be taken as gospel, no matter if it even takes ANOTHER 10 years.
JEEZ!

It's taken as gospel because even though it takes them years they do eventually produce movies. They are a proven factor.

You don't get the same status because you aren't proven yet. Being taken for gospel is something you have to earn. It's not a given.

I think also you're missing the big picture. The vast majority of movies take many many years to ever see the screen.

[Crowley]

I think J-Bolt is also forgetting:
http://images.absolutenow.com/poster/Lynda_Carter/LC2C1.jpg
http://www.wonderwomanmuseum.com/images/wwdcd-sfmaquette.jpg
http://www.dcdatabaseproject.com/wiki/images/thumb/c/c7/Wonder_Woman_003.jpg/180px-Wonder_Woman_003.jpg

1 TV series
appearances in at least 2 animated series
a comic book series

that's at least 4 over Bombshell...

[OMAR]

Are you kidding? You practically grovel when you talk to him. I'm surprised you don't call him "sir".

I thought I'd come back to this one, though I was initially going to ignore it. I think you're not too far off the mark with that "sir" comment, although of course the way you put it was very insulting. I do have a lot of respect for J-Bolt - his creativity, good natured personality, and his artistic ability. Though I think he takes on too much, and I worry that he might be too sensitive - as many great artists are - too be able to take it in stride when so many who see that artistry and creativity and despise him for it out of envy try to put him down. Even the praise dosen't seem fitting or genuine enough to my mind. In that manner, seeing him post his works to this thread for public consumption reminds me of a passage from one of my favorite books:

"It was supposed to be something holy, for God's sake, when old Ernie sat down at the piano... I swear to God, if I were a piano player, or an actor or something, and all those dopes thought I was terrific, I'd hate it. I wouldn't even want them to clap for me. People always clap at the wrong things. If I were a piano player, I'd play it in the goddam closet."

[TomStillwell]

Oh, sweet Lynda...

[Crowley]

I thought I'd come back to this one, though I was initially going to ignore it. I think you're not too far off the mark with that "sir" comment, although of course the way you put it was very insulting. I do have a lot of respect for J-Bolt - his creativity, good natured personality, and his artistic ability. Though I think he takes on too much, and I worry that he might be too sensitive - as many great artists are - too be able to take it in stride when so many who see that artistry and creativity and despise him for it out of envy try to put him down. Even the praise dosen't seem fitting or genuine enough to my mind. In that manner, seeing him post his works to this thread for public consumption reminds me of a passage from one of my favorite books:

"It was supposed to be something holy, for God's sake, when old Ernie sat down at the piano... I swear to God, if I were a piano player, or an actor or something, and all those dopes thought I was terrific, I'd hate it. I wouldn't even want them to clap for me. People always clap at the wrong things. If I were a piano player, I'd play it in the goddam closet."

Come on Eric... stop playing this game.

No one buys it.

[Crowley]

Oh, sweet Lynda...
hell yeah...

[MacQuarrie]

May I call ya darlin'?

Gail
You never called me Darlin'.

[J-Bolt]

As I said before, I'll find that file and put it up here so that you can see for yourself.

I'm answering your blasted questions... yet you're still claiming me not to being straight with you. It's getting boring, Man.:mad:

I googled "Las Vegas News July, 1987 Jimmy Fisher Jr. and Lightning Bolt Comics"
I get this thread.

and what's the name of the printer that giving you the 27 cents per comic printed price?

I've asked around and NO one has heard of such a deal. Other people on this forum have also questioned it.

If you're indeed serious about needing help and printing comics... you need to be straight.

[J-Bolt]

Thank you for that immaculate compliment, Omar. That's the best compliment I've ever received for my work. You honor me, truly <bowing>.
J-:eek:

I thought I'd come back to this one, though I was initially going to ignore it. I think you're not too far off the mark with that "sir" comment, although of course the way you put it was very insulting. I do have a lot of respect for J-Bolt - his creativity, good natured personality, and his artistic ability. Though I think he takes on too much, and I worry that he might be too sensitive - as many great artists are - too be able to take it in stride when so many who see that artistry and creativity and despise him for it out of envy try to put him down. Even the praise dosen't seem fitting or genuine enough to my mind. In that manner, seeing him post his works to this thread for public consumption reminds me of a passage from one of my favorite books:

"It was supposed to be something holy, for God's sake, when old Ernie sat down at the piano... I swear to God, if I were a piano player, or an actor or something, and all those dopes thought I was terrific, I'd hate it. I wouldn't even want them to clap for me. People always clap at the wrong things. If I were a piano player, I'd play it in the goddam closet."

[J-Bolt]

Forget about them, Omar. Those 2 that responded are just pot calling the kettles a troll. You'll know what I mean by that.
J-;)

I thought I'd come back to this one, though I was initially going to ignore it. I think you're not too far off the mark with that "sir" comment, although of course the way you put it was very insulting. I do have a lot of respect for J-Bolt - his creativity, good natured personality, and his artistic ability. Though I think he takes on too much, and I worry that he might be too sensitive - as many great artists are - too be able to take it in stride when so many who see that artistry and creativity and despise him for it out of envy try to put him down. Even the praise dosen't seem fitting or genuine enough to my mind. In that manner, seeing him post his works to this thread for public consumption reminds me of a passage from one of my favorite books:

"It was supposed to be something holy, for God's sake, when old Ernie sat down at the piano... I swear to God, if I were a piano player, or an actor or something, and all those dopes thought I was terrific, I'd hate it. I wouldn't even want them to clap for me. People always clap at the wrong things. If I were a piano player, I'd play it in the goddam closet."

[Roquefort Raider]

As I said before, I'll find that file and put it up here so that you can see for yourself.

Well, since we're still waiting for that one here's Quebecor's (http://www.quebecor.com/CommercialPrinting/QuebecorWorld.aspx) address.

More expensive, but they're well known and easy to find.

[Dreadstar]

Come on Eric... stop playing this game.

No one buys it.

Exactly. I mean, c'mon. It's getting to be really frickin' stupid, isn't it?

[Crowley]

As I said before, I'll find that file and put it up here so that you can see for yourself.

I'm answering your blasted questions... yet you're still claiming me not to being straight with you. It's getting boring, Man.:mad:
what's the name of the printer?

you haven't answered that one.

[OMAR]

I'd strongly advise against J-Bolt giving out the names of anyone he's in business with, including the printer and right down to the guy who refills his company's water cooler. There's no need for him to do so and it only opens him up to potential interference or other problems - not necessarily from anyone who posts here, but from anyone who has been reading the thread and decides to place a call to "investigate" whether he's telling the truth.

[Matt Algren]

Damn those ilk...

[OMAR]

you haven't answered that one.

It's amazing to me - or it would be if I wasn't so cynical - that as soon as J-Bolt agrees to interact with us in this thread, and answers a few questions, it engenders such a sense of entitlement with some folks. He'll answer the questions he wants and on his own timetable. We've learned more about him in the past week or so than in the previous five years and I for one am grateful for that. His son, his health concerns, all these wonderful peeks behind the LBC curtain are interesting to the fans.

That quote I posted on the last page wasn't something I made up, it was from one of my favorite books though I doubt many folks here would have heard of it. I do find it extremely applicable to what's going on in this thread - but don't get me wrong, I'm still very happy that things are so much more aimiable than they were earlier this summer.

Obviously, in any online discussion, there will be those who find reasoned discourse boring and would rather everybody was hurling insults and accusations. But that doesn't really serve anyone's purpose but those who are entertained by such shenanigans - and a thread like this shouldn't be about entertainment but about sharing ideas and letting the public find out more about "J-Bolt News". Let's get our entertainment from the various LBE comics and movies, not from putting on our detective hats and trying to corner J-Bolt with prying questions so that we can play "gotcha" when we think we have enough info to challenge him.

[TomStillwell]

He could easily PM someone he trusts with the printer info.

[Roquefort Raider]

This is like something out of Kafka.

[OMAR]

It's a business deal between him and the printer, Tom. If the printer wants to advertise, that's the printer's business unless he specifically asks J-Bolt to recommend him.

Leaving aside the question of why anyone here would need to know the name of the printer, if someone doesn't believe that J-Bolt is getting the price he says he's getting, but they think he's lying about it for God only knows what reason - and I'd be curious to know what possible motivation he could have for that (?!) - it doesn't affect what the public sees on the page, it isn't about the comics, movies, or other LBE endeavors... what's the point of calling him on it?

Suppose he names a printer, and says that's who is giving him the rate he mentioned earlier in the thread. There's no way that's going to satisfy anyone until someone looks up that printer's rates. But if the rates the printer publicizes to the general public doesn't match what J-Bolt has stated, that doesn't prove anything, right? There's countless reasons why J-Bolt might be getting a discounted rate - so someone places a call - and then it's out there that J-Bolt is advertising the fact that he's getting a cheap rate, which very well could be an annoyance to a printer who doesn't want to perform future jobs at that same rate. I'm not saying that would definitely happen, but why take the chance to satisfy the curiousity of someone who really doesn't need to know the details of such a business relationship?

I just don't think it's worth it, honestly.

[TomStillwell]

Because many of us are in comics and if a rate like that exists we'd be fools to pass it up. That's why the question was asked in the first place.

I could be wrong but wouldn't more business for a printer be a good thing? My brother-in-law is a graphics designer and actually gets finder fees for helping to bring in new business for his printer.

Of course, you knew all this already. You just needed something to be contrary about.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

It's a business deal between him and the printer, Tom. If the printer wants to advertise, that's the printer's business unless he specifically asks J-Bolt to recommend him.

Which if J-Bolt had said earlier " The printer is a friend and he has rates but is cutting me a deal " I'm sure many would accept that. Hell maybe the " printer " will want more business and with the price fort 25,000 copies he's doing he could perhaps swing another 25,000 if other indie creators want him. We have no clue. I personally don't care seeing as how if this guy has been around for 5 years....why hasn't he and J-Bolt produced anything in that period ?

Leaving aside the question of why anyone here would need to know the name of the printer, if someone doesn't believe that J-Bolt is getting the price he says he's getting, but they think he's lying about it for God only knows what reason - and I'd be curious to know what possible motivation he could have for that (?!) - it doesn't affect what the public sees on the page, it isn't about the comics, movies, or other LBE endeavors... what's the point of calling him on it?

Thus far its the kind people of the Yab's forum who have seemingly supported him well though. One girl has done a great job on his website. Gail and Mac have given him tips and have done a lot. If anything...he could tell Gail. And I'm sure since she has a DC Exclusive contract she will not screw up his deal.


Suppose he names a printer, and says that's who is giving him the rate he mentioned earlier in the thread. There's no way that's going to satisfy anyone until someone looks up that printer's rates. But if the rates the printer publicizes to the general public doesn't match what J-Bolt has stated, that doesn't prove anything, right? There's countless reasons why J-Bolt might be getting a discounted rate - so someone places a call - and then it's out there that J-Bolt is advertising the fact that he's getting a cheap rate, which very well could be an annoyance to a printer who doesn't want to perform future jobs at that same rate. I'm not saying that would definitely happen, but why take the chance to satisfy the curiousity of someone who really doesn't need to know the details of such a business relationship?


Then have him tell Gail the name and I'm sure she won't do anything to impact his possible print deal. What you say could happen but a lot here do support him and wish him well. I believe if he tells Gail , she'll keep it under lock and key for him.

I just don't think it's worth it, honestly.

Well if you examine the entire debacle from 1999-2006 its like a 7 year trainwreck. The promised movie has never happened. The hyped books have never happened. In all that period its been vaporware that J-Bolt is pushing. Like " I will have a WLS 1# " out soon. Or " I will have Bombshell 1# " out soon . But its been 7 years and people are gonna roll their eyes a lot.

Its a lot like Joe Maduira who at least did pro work. But after the situation with Battle Chasers and how chronicly late he is , how many do take that him as a serious talent ? I mean one who will fufill his promises ?

J-Bolts situation is tougher. He's walking into a situation where he hasn't produced any pro work comics wise and hasn't been able to do it in 7 years. He will get heckled a lot for it and questions will be rough.

[howyadoin]

Forget about them, Omar. Those 2 that responded are just pot calling the kettles a troll. You'll know what I mean by that.Hilarious. As long as he licks your boots, he's your buddy.

[curefreak]

gails been quiet today hrrrrm.

[TomStillwell]

She's a busy woman.

If Gail's quiet it means more great comics for the masses. A fair trade.

[Dreadstar]

Of course, you knew all this already. You just needed something to be contrary about.

I know *I'M* convinced.

[Gail Simone]

I'm at deadline.

Again, if he can get a printing deal like that, good for him.

Gail

[Crowley]

Eric Altice AKA Omar,

If someone try to sell you a car and claims it gets a thousand miles to the gallon. You're going to want to know who they bought it from to verify the claim... that's not unreasonable.

If J-bolt is asking people to help him and claims he gets a deal that's unheard of by people in the industry like me... Then I want to know who.

that's not unreasonable.

[MacQuarrie]

One question, J:

Did you confirm this print quote within the last 90 days?

The printing industry can fluctuate wildly depending on a lot of factors, mainly the price of paper, which can be affected by the price of fuel to transport the raw materials to the mills.

Print price quotes generally expire within 30 to 90 days.

[OMAR]

Now that's a reasonable question.

[howyadoin]

One question, J:

Did you confirm this print quote within the last 90 days?Careful. You'll get accused of trolling.

[Crowley]

Now that's a reasonable question.
Eric,

Seriously quit the act. Unless you record yourself singing "Wind beneath my wings" followed by Journey's "Don't stop Believin" to J-bolt and post it one YouTube AFTER you buy 6 copies of WLS Ashcan and order two posters...

NO ONE IS BUYING YOUR ACT, YOU LOON.

[howyadoin]

Eric,

Seriously quit the act. Unless you record yourself singing "Wind beneath my wings" followed by Journey's "Don't stop Believin" to J-bolt and post it one YouTube AFTER you buy 6 copies of WLS Ashcan and order two posters...

NO ONE IS BUYING YOUR ACT, YOU LOON.I kinda see him as Marcy to J-Bolt's Peppermint Patty, actually.

[Gail Simone]

Guys, what's the problem?

I'm having fun hearing from J-bolt directly, and there's a difference between possibly outdated information and a deliberate lie. He's been forthcoming about a lot of things, we don't have to agree about everything, right?

Gail

[Red Jack]

This is in contention for being the most entertaining thread I've ever seen on the web.

The only other one involves the ever increasing number of comic book cover swipes.

Amazing.

[MacQuarrie]

Eric,

Seriously quit the act. Unless you record yourself singing "Wind beneath my wings" followed by Journey's "Don't stop Believin" to J-bolt and post it one YouTube AFTER you buy 6 copies of WLS Ashcan and order two posters...

NO ONE IS BUYING YOUR ACT, YOU LOON.
Do the words "suspension of disbelief" mean nothing to you?

Just go with it. don't think, don't question, just enjoy the ride.

[Dreadstar]

Guys, what's the problem?

I'm having fun hearing from J-bolt directly, and there's a difference between possibly outdated information and a deliberate lie. He's been forthcoming about a lot of things, we don't have to agree about everything, right?

Honestly, I've decided (and posted as much) that I'm going to give J-Bolt the benefit of the doubt and given said benefit of doubt a generous buffer time.

Please don't tell me I have to extend it to Omar.

[Crowley]

Guys, what's the problem?

I'm having fun hearing from J-bolt directly, and there's a difference between possibly outdated information and a deliberate lie. He's been forthcoming about a lot of things, we don't have to agree about everything, right?

Gail
Here's the thing.

If he's going to ask people to help out with a comic and then quote a price that by today's standards is not possible for any printer any of us know, well it throws suspicion into the whole process.

27 cents per copy is unheard of. As I stated earlier... that price would reduce production cost to nearly 1/8 of current production costs. (i was wrong when I said 1/6)

Put another way... if this is true J-bolt would be able to price books at $1.00 and reap in nearly 75% profit if his book sold well.

I don't believe it to be possible... All I ask is that he provide some kind of proof to you, Shelly or Mac. If one of the three of you say it's legit then I'll be the first to congratualate J-bolt on an astounding acomplishment.

I don't think J-bolt has malicious intent, but I do think sticking to his guns here without evidence damages his credibility greatly... and I'm not trashing him or bashing or trolling on him... Just trying to get him to shoot straight.

[howyadoin]

Guys, what's the problem?

I'm having fun hearing from J-bolt directly, and there's a difference between possibly outdated information and a deliberate lie. He's been forthcoming about a lot of things, we don't have to agree about everything, right?I think I gave J-Bolt some benefit of a doubt till he called me a troll. At which point I think I would've been thoroughly justified in expressing opinions of his "art", if I'd been so inclined.

[MacQuarrie]

I don't believe it to be possible... All I ask is that he provide some kind of proof to you, Shelly or Mac. If one of the three of you say it's legit then I'll be the first to congratualate J-bolt on an astounding acomplishment.
Lousy web printing on the crappiest newsprint paper available, with self-cover, basically printing of the quality you might find in the ad section that fills your sunday newspaper, maybe you could get that price. Maybe.

If we're talking about the quality of paper and printing one might find from DC or Marvel (or Dark Horse, Image, etc), then no. You can't buy the paper for that price, let alone the printing. Can't. There's not a paper company in America that will sell paper at that price.

Given the sheer number of print jobs I've worked on (newspapers, magazines, advertising supplements, packaging, books, posters, and yes, comics) over the last 28 years, I think I know what I'm talking about on this one.

Since I'm giving J the benefit of the doubt, I'm going to assume that the price quoted is either an error or an outdated quote.

[Carlton Donaghe]

I hope it's okay to talk openly about Brenner's prices here. I'm not giving anything away, as these come from their own price guide, available upon request. Also, they are a pleasure to do business with, and with their shipping options, they can practically act as your distributor...

Anyway:

You can get a 32-page, b&w, saddle-stitched, 40# web-offset printed book, with color covers (b&w inside covers) on 70# gloss book for a little less than 25 cents per copy. But web-offset printed books are only printed in 16-page increments. A 48-page, b&w comic would be a little more than 30 cents per copy.

But that's black and white, not color.

Of course, that does not include digital imaging OR digital proofs, which I recommend (honestly, I can't imagine printing a comic without getting a proof-- do any of you guys do that?), nor does it include shipping.

Here's one great thing I want to say about Brenner: For the same cost as shipping an entire print run to one location, Brenner will ship as many copies as you want to as many locations as you want, as long as they are provided with the addresses prior to printing. That is awesome!

[Carlton Donaghe]

Oh, yeah-- wait--

I forgot to say-- that's for 25,000 copies, which is the number we were talking about.

Which is a lot more than I've ever printed on any print run. Geez, I can only dream.

[OMAR]

The quote I posted earlier today from The Catcher In The Rye.

Well, I'm gong to be out of town for the long weekend, and won't be online at all during that time. I'll check back in the day after Labor Day. I hope there's some more legitimate J-Bolt news when I get back, and that the bashers haven't chased him away for good.

NO ONE IS BUYING YOUR ACT, YOU LOON.

Has J-Bolt made some premature announcements, some brash promises, has he lost his temper when provoked, and resorted to personal insults? Sure - who among hasn't made a misstep or two in their time? But this isn't some multimilllionare, roaming the halls of his lonely mansion, muttering to his life-sized robots while anxiously pacing the very floorboards that Latina hookers may or may not be buried under, and plotting his next offensive comment. This is an underdog, an entrepeneur, a father - and both his supporters and his envious detractors agree that he has not yet experienced much success in his chosen field. Yet here he is, still fighting for his place in that field after years of being put down and told he has no place there. Years after Warren Ellis sneered at this "poor creature" who had turned up on his forum to defend himself after his press release was being mercilessly mocked, Warren Ellis is writing IRON MAN. PLANETARY, his creator owned work still hasn't been finished - but J-Bolt's vision hasn't wavered. And what about the courage it took to come here to face his most vicious critics - and to ask them for help? Have you read his editorial about Chris Reeve, in which he laid bare the facts about his own health concerns and admitted the fear he felt the night he slipped and fell? Is this really the guy you want to crusade against? Is it really so hard to believe that I genuinely admire someone like that?

See you next Tuesday.

[howyadoin]

Has J-Bolt made some premature announcements, some brash promises, has he lost his temper when provoked, and resorted to personal insults? Sure - who among hasn't made a misstep or two in their time? But this isn't some multimilllionare, roaming the halls of his lonely mansion, muttering to his life-sized robots while anxiously pacing the very floorboards that Latina hookers may or may not be buried under, and plotting his next offensive comment. This is an underdog, an entrepeneur, a father - and both his supporters and his envious detractors agree that he has not yet experienced much success in his chosen field. Yet here he is, still fighting for his place in that field after years of being put down and told he has no place there. Years after Warren Ellis sneered at this "poor creature" who had turned up on his forum to defend himself after his press release was being mercilessly mocked, Warren Ellis is writing IRON MAN. PLANETARY, his creator owned work still hasn't been finished - but J-Bolt's vision hasn't wavered. And what about the courage it took to come here to face his most vicious critics - and to ask them for help? Have you read his editorial about Chris Reeve, in which he laid bare the facts about his own health concerns and admitted the fear he felt the night he slipped and fell? Is this really the guy you want to crusade against? Is it really so hard to believe that I genuinely admire someone like that?I really need to get some of whatever you're smokin'.

[Crowley]

Has J-Bolt made some premature announcements, some brash promises, has he lost his temper when provoked, and resorted to personal insults? Sure - who among hasn't made a misstep or two in their time? But this isn't some multimilllionare, roaming the halls of his lonely mansion, muttering to his life-sized robots while anxiously pacing the very floorboards that Latina hookers may or may not be buried under, and plotting his next offensive comment. This is an underdog, an entrepeneur, a father - and both his supporters and his envious detractors agree that he has not yet experienced much success in his chosen field. Yet here he is, still fighting for his place in that field after years of being put down and told he has no place there. Years after Warren Ellis sneered at this "poor creature" who had turned up on his forum to defend himself after his press release was being mercilessly mocked, Warren Ellis is writing IRON MAN. PLANETARY, his creator owned work still hasn't been finished - but J-Bolt's vision hasn't wavered. And what about the courage it took to come here to face his most vicious critics - and to ask them for help? Have you read his editorial about Chris Reeve, in which he laid bare the facts about his own health concerns and admitted the fear he felt the night he slipped and fell? Is this really the guy you want to crusade against? Is it really so hard to believe that I genuinely admire someone like that?
Eric,
Warren Ellis is in the middle of three creator owned HIGH SELLING series right now.

out of pure kindness i won't respond to the rest of this... but you fool no one.
It was fantastic to fool you though.

[Gail Simone]

"Is this really the guy you want to crusade against? Is it really so hard to believe that I genuinely admire someone like that?"

Absolutely it is. Seeya Tuesday.

Gail

[Gail Simone]

I think the proper thing to do here is get some OMAR history, so that it's clear why people doubt his good intentions.

Gail

[Gail Simone]

I hope it's okay to talk openly about Brenner's prices here. I'm not giving anything away, as these come from their own price guide, available upon request. Also, they are a pleasure to do business with, and with their shipping options, they can practically act as your distributor...

Anyway:

You can get a 32-page, b&w, saddle-stitched, 40# web-offset printed book, with color covers (b&w inside covers) on 70# gloss book for a little less than 25 cents per copy. But web-offset printed books are only printed in 16-page increments. A 48-page, b&w comic would be a little more than 30 cents per copy.

But that's black and white, not color.

Of course, that does not include digital imaging OR digital proofs, which I recommend (honestly, I can't imagine printing a comic without getting a proof-- do any of you guys do that?), nor does it include shipping.

Here's one great thing I want to say about Brenner: For the same cost as shipping an entire print run to one location, Brenner will ship as many copies as you want to as many locations as you want, as long as they are provided with the addresses prior to printing. That is awesome!


Well, those numbers are pretty dang close to what J-bolt had figured, right?

So what's the problem? Am I missing something?

Gail

[TomStillwell]

J-Bolt is talking about a color comic, Gail. Color really jacks up the price and the main reason almost all small press is in B&W.

And I'm assuming a better quality of paper and printwork, but again, that's an assumption on my part.

[Gail Simone]

Ah, okay, yeah. Even I know that color makes most small-press comics unprofitable.

Gail

[Carlton Donaghe]

Gail,

What I've just quoted is for black and white, on 40 pound paper (nearly newsprint) and web-offset printing.

J-Bolt was talking about full color, offset printing with cardstock (100 pound paper) covers. Plus, you add digital imaging to that (compare 5 cents per page to 15 cents per page) and the prices go through the roof. What everyone is freaking out on is that you can't get color prices at the rates he was quoting if you printed the books in China. Although, now that I think about it, that may have been what the printer he was talking to might have been planning to do.

Here's the problem as I see it: If J-Bolt seeks investment money based on a business plan in which the numbers are too low, he's going to run into serious trouble. Next to what he's paying for creating the art and story, what he pays to print the books are going to be the biggest cost (well, advertising and promotion on a large scale would be right up there, too, I suppose). Then, if he's planning on printing 25,000 to 50,000 books, the costs for that would exceed even the creative costs.

If we are wanting to see him succeed, it makes every bit of sense for us to throw up a red flag when we see him quoting numbers lower than anything any of us have ever heard.

Plus, if he's getting prices that low-- and for COLOR-- there might be some of us who want in on that deal.

At least, that's the way I see it.

[Carlton Donaghe]

Oops, I guess you and Tom both posted in the time it took me to write my essay there. Just pretend my post follows your question directly and it makes more sense.

>sigh<

[Crowley]

Thank you Carlton!
precisely right!

[howyadoin]

Ah, okay, yeah. Even I know that color makes most small-press comics unprofitable.Heh. And you're a writer.

[Wingnut]

So, I guess the question is to J- and you...

Who is doing the publishing?!?!

Is it a TRUE publishing company, or a copy place that will do the stuff at low pricces?

Just a question.

Gail,

What I've just quoted is for black and white, on 40 pound paper (nearly newsprint) and web-offset printing.

J-Bolt was talking about full color, offset printing with cardstock (100 pound paper) covers. Plus, you add digital imaging to that (compare 5 cents per page to 15 cents per page) and the prices go through the roof. What everyone is freaking out on is that you can't get color prices at the rates he was quoting if you printed the books in China. Although, now that I think about it, that may have been what the printer he was talking to might have been planning to do.

Here's the problem as I see it: If J-Bolt seeks investment money based on a business plan in which the numbers are too low, he's going to run into serious trouble. Next to what he's paying for creating the art and story, what he pays to print the books are going to be the biggest cost (well, advertising and promotion on a large scale would be right up there, too, I suppose). Then, if he's planning on printing 25,000 to 50,000 books, the costs for that would exceed even the creative costs.

If we are wanting to see him succeed, it makes every bit of sense for us to throw up a red flag when we see him quoting numbers lower than anything any of us have ever heard.

Plus, if he's getting prices that low-- and for COLOR-- there might be some of us who want in on that deal.

At least, that's the way I see it.
J=

[Gail Simone]

Heh. And you're a writer.

I freely admit that what I know about self-publishing comes from friends who have done it and is very limited.

Gail

[howyadoin]

I freely admit that what I know about self-publishing comes from friends who have done it and is very limited.I still think it's cool that you managed to bypass that step. 'Cause it's fun at first, and a big pain in the ass immediately afterwards.

[MacQuarrie]

Cutting to the relevant part...
Has J-Bolt made some premature announcements, some brash promises, has he lost his temper when provoked, and resorted to personal insults? Sure - who among hasn't made a misstep or two in their time? But this isn't some multimilllionare, roaming the halls of his lonely mansion, muttering to his life-sized robots while anxiously pacing the very floorboards that Latina hookers may or may not be buried under, and plotting his next offensive comment. This is an underdog, an entrepeneur, a father - and both his supporters and his envious detractors agree that he has not yet experienced much success in his chosen field. Yet here he is, still fighting for his place in that field after years of being put down and told he has no place there.
See, if J would present himself that way, as he does from time to time, we'd all be as supportive of him as we are of all the other small-press and web-comic guys who post here. I've purchased copies of Superhero Happy Hour and Honor Brigade and Seven Guys of Justice and Periphery and The Little Things and other books created by YABSers or CBRians, and done so happily, as have many others. We LIKE underdogs and entrepreneurs! We like supporting people who are taking their best shot and giving it their all.

Trouble is, J wants it both ways. When he isn't an underdog entrepreneur doing it on his own, he's the president of a sprawling multi-national corporation with subsidiaries in several diverse areas of the entertainment industry, with "several dozen" employees and a healthy income being generated by all his Lightning Bolt Entertainment endeavors.

That persona grates on people, especially on people who are, like J-Bolt, underdog entrepreneurs taking their best shot. Those of us who are trying to do some decent work while holding down a job and raising a family, trying to scrape together enough extra money to print some comics and hope somebody notices, we're not real patient with guys who are more concerned with putting up a good image than with doing the work.

When the person in question periodically makes statements or asks questions that reveal a serious gap in what ought to be fundamental knowledge about the industry, that's a red flag. When the person says those things while at the same time claiming to be a Big Wheel, that not only raises a big red flag, it ticks people off.

If J-Bolt would put away the hype machine (which he largely has), and present himself as an underdog entrepreneur, a lot more people would support his project and encourage him.

J-Bolt's art is better than some stuff that I've seen published in the majors (naming names: Bill Willingham's early '80s work, George Perez's very early work at Marvel) and far superior to much of the small press. His plots are viable, but his real weakness is in scripting, and I think he's beginning to recognize that and seek assistance there, and that's good. If he sticks to the work instead of trying to impress people with his status, he'll do fine.

When J and I made our truce, I promised him I wouldn't attack him and I wouldn't try to disprove his claims, but I also wouldn't pretend to agree with him if I didn't, and I wouldn't back him up on anything I didn't believe. I won't sign off on bullshit, in other words. I would be respectful but honest. He agreed. I think my assessment here is a fair one and not bashing. I hope he sees it the same way. And I hope it clarifies for you some of the history we have here.

[Gail Simone]

Yeah...you know, this is a thing most creative people I know, including me, and Mark Waid, and nearly all my pro friends do. It's just hard not to focus on the negative comments some time. A friend of mine, a very famous one, can read an entire thread of nothing but compliments about his work, but if, in the midst of all that praise, there's one negative comment, he will focus on that for the entire day. It's like the praise isn't as IMPORTANT somehow.

Like I say, I've done it myself. And for the most part I think J-bolt has taken the well-intended criticisms pretty well here lately, so props for that.

Gail

[TomStillwell]

I think the proper thing to do here is get some OMAR history, so that it's clear why people doubt his good intentions.

Gail

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[Red Jack]

So, I guess the question is to J- and you...

Who is doing the publishing?!?!

Is it a TRUE publishing company, or a copy place that will do the stuff at low pricces?

Just a question.


J=


A copy place would actually charge you MORE to do the same job as a press. The way it works is the more books you print, the cheaper it becomes to print each book. (Copy shops don't do it that way.)

But the price margins are fixed by the cost of the actual physical materials.

Unless somebdoy somehow got their paper off the back of a truck or doesn't have to pay their workers, taxes, electricity, etc. All legitimate presses will give quotes that are in the same ballpark with one another.

If you get a "deal" that cuts more than 20% from what is considered industry norm, people are going to raise eyebrows. it's not impossible. People do favors and there are sometimes unique circumstances but they'd have to be pretty unique.

I personally only got minorly offended by the J-Bolt/YABS saga and only in that, in doing the work of getting my own book out with a small publisher, I found it increasingly irritating (even retroactively) to read these incredibly long dissertations, which invariably were proven to be false, that didn't line up with what actually happens.

I'm not holding on to any of that (why would anyone hold on to something like that?) but I, like others, remain skeptical about any further pronouncements.

i think it's understandable. I'm neither rooting for J Bolt nor a detractor. I'm waiting to see what comes.

[MacQuarrie]

There is a way to get a fantastic discount on printing, but it requires (a) that you have a really good relationship with a printer, and (b) are doing a one-shot thing. It won't work for an ongoing book, for reasons that will soon be obvious.

Printing is an extremely wasteful process. Things are almost never printed on paper that's close to the actual size; there's usually a lot of trim. So...

If your printer likes you and you aren't in a hurry to get your book, and can break your stuff up into smaller signatures (pages printed together), you can sometimes get them to piggyback your job. That is, they will print your pages alongside another job, using up the wasted paper. This really works best for single-sheet stuff like flyers or postcards or small posters, but it could possibly be done for comics if you're willing to wait for suitable projects to piggyback on.

This way the other client picks up almost the entire cost of the paper and you pay for the setup and film and some of the ink.

But like I said, you have to have a printer who really likes you and wants to do you a favor, because it's a PITA for him.

[TomStillwell]

Mmmmmm pita.

[J-Bolt]

This is just freakin' hilarious because it's the worst case of 'pot calling the kettle black' that I've EVER seen.

After all... you're NEVER contrary, no matter what... right?

PAAAAAH-LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE!

Omar is not being contrary. He's just giving his opinion that I'm actually considering because there ARE still a couple of people on here who would thoroughly get off on ruining any business dealings I have, but on the other hand, it's also valid that others would want this same printing rate. Well, I'll take the advice of one of your earlier posts, Tom. Whoever I TRUST, I'll PM the info to, once I have the time to find it. I've been way too busy the past number of days to look for it, and I have it filed in one of my cabinets. Since I've made a major move, almost 4 months ago, it's a major chore to go through my cabinets, so when I have the time I'll look for it and only give the info to anyone I TRUST.

And, by the way... for the butt-crack, who is NOT in the "TRUST list," I haven't given the name of the printer because I don't outright remember it right now. I've had a lot of things on my mind and going through the crap I still have with the very few morons who still exist on here, doesn't help on that much.

You just needed something to be contrary about.

[J-Bolt]

Mac...
You're right, and no, I haven't confirmed it recently. I'll be confirming it when I'm ready to go to print. That's why I don't remember the name, off-hand. Until I'm ready to go to print, I'm thinking that I'd be a nuisance to keep confirming it constantly, without being ready to utilize it. So, I check on it about once a year, to avoid that.

I think I said earlier (and if I didn't I'll say it now), that I expect the price might even have increased by a couple cents, since I haven't confirmed it in almost a year and the exact possibility you described is more than likely probable, especially since the fuel prices have badly hurt EVERY business in America.

J-:cool:

One question, J:

Did you confirm this print quote within the last 90 days?

The printing industry can fluctuate wildly depending on a lot of factors, mainly the price of paper, which can be affected by the price of fuel to transport the raw materials to the mills.

Print price quotes generally expire within 30 to 90 days.

[J-Bolt]

No... people who make statements such as this get that dubious distinction.

Careful. You'll get accused of trolling.

[J-Bolt]

Thank you, Gail...
I couldn't agree more. They're still fishing for whatever they can find to act like jerks to me, and also go after people who defend me, who they don't have any respect for, as they do for you and Mac.
J-:rolleyes:

Guys, what's the problem?

I'm having fun hearing from J-bolt directly, and there's a difference between possibly outdated information and a deliberate lie. He's been forthcoming about a lot of things, we don't have to agree about everything, right?

Gail

[J-Bolt]

Thanks, Omar...
I don't know about the rest of it, but I've always wondered why the very few on here still go after me, even though I've humbled myself enough to come here, befriend those who are worth it, and ask for help, answering any & all VALID questions, while still trying to convice (even though that has stopped now) those few who won't be convinced of my work, no matter what.

As for my injuries and such as that, I don't anybody PITYING me, for sure. The only reason I mentioned it at all was in comparison to my Chris Reeves editorial and, of course, the accident I just recently had shook me up all to Hell, and I don't have a strong emotional support here, with family, so I just wanted to get it talked out of my system.

Concerning the detractors, you really might want to consider doing what I do and try your damndest to ignore them. I can name 4 of these morons right now, that I do everything possible to ignore. I can't convince them to get off of their little tirade, and I've come to peace with this. You won't either, Bub. Just ignore them, if at all possible, and only respond BRIEFLY if you absolutely, positively HAVE TO remark on it because the stupidity behind it has to be set straight to those who might be entertaining to those that follow such rederick (sp?). They are to be pitied because they are so stupid that special education students even look down upon them, slowly shaking their heads while making the "tsk tsk" sound. So, just do your best to ignore them and continue an intelligent conversation with those who deserve to have such with... as THEY are the only ones to talk with, on here.

J-;)

The quote I posted earlier today from The Catcher In The Rye.

Well, I'm gong to be out of town for the long weekend, and won't be online at all during that time. I'll check back in the day after Labor Day. I hope there's some more legitimate J-Bolt news when I get back, and that the bashers haven't chased him away for good.



Has J-Bolt made some premature announcements, some brash promises, has he lost his temper when provoked, and resorted to personal insults? Sure - who among hasn't made a misstep or two in their time? But this isn't some multimilllionare, roaming the halls of his lonely mansion, muttering to his life-sized robots while anxiously pacing the very floorboards that Latina hookers may or may not be buried under, and plotting his next offensive comment. This is an underdog, an entrepeneur, a father - and both his supporters and his envious detractors agree that he has not yet experienced much success in his chosen field. Yet here he is, still fighting for his place in that field after years of being put down and told he has no place there. Years after Warren Ellis sneered at this "poor creature" who had turned up on his forum to defend himself after his press release was being mercilessly mocked, Warren Ellis is writing IRON MAN. PLANETARY, his creator owned work still hasn't been finished - but J-Bolt's vision hasn't wavered. And what about the courage it took to come here to face his most vicious critics - and to ask them for help? Have you read his editorial about Chris Reeve, in which he laid bare the facts about his own health concerns and admitted the fear he felt the night he slipped and fell? Is this really the guy you want to crusade against? Is it really so hard to believe that I genuinely admire someone like that?

See you next Tuesday.

[J-Bolt]

Mac...
I see your point, but that was the point I was making when I was referring to my movie, compared to DC, Marvel and the rest of 'em: I don't have the money and they do, yet I perservere no matter what. I've been saying (without using the exact words) that I'm those 2 things, here. And I've also said that my employees are more than 95% independant contractors that work off commission or on a deferred payment plan.
J-:cool:

Cutting to the relevant part...

See, if J would present himself that way, as he does from time to time, we'd all be as supportive of him as we are of all the other small-press and web-comic guys who post here. I've purchased copies of Superhero Happy Hour and Honor Brigade and Seven Guys of Justice and Periphery and The Little Things and other books created by YABSers or CBRians, and done so happily, as have many others. We LIKE underdogs and entrepreneurs! We like supporting people who are taking their best shot and giving it their all.

Trouble is, J wants it both ways. When he isn't an underdog entrepreneur doing it on his own, he's the president of a sprawling multi-national corporation with subsidiaries in several diverse areas of the entertainment industry, with "several dozen" employees and a healthy income being generated by all his Lightning Bolt Entertainment endeavors.

That persona grates on people, especially on people who are, like J-Bolt, underdog entrepreneurs taking their best shot. Those of us who are trying to do some decent work while holding down a job and raising a family, trying to scrape together enough extra money to print some comics and hope somebody notices, we're not real patient with guys who are more concerned with putting up a good image than with doing the work.

When the person in question periodically makes statements or asks questions that reveal a serious gap in what ought to be fundamental knowledge about the industry, that's a red flag. When the person says those things while at the same time claiming to be a Big Wheel, that not only raises a big red flag, it ticks people off.

If J-Bolt would put away the hype machine (which he largely has), and present himself as an underdog entrepreneur, a lot more people would support his project and encourage him.

J-Bolt's art is better than some stuff that I've seen published in the majors (naming names: Bill Willingham's early '80s work, George Perez's very early work at Marvel) and far superior to much of the small press. His plots are viable, but his real weakness is in scripting, and I think he's beginning to recognize that and seek assistance there, and that's good. If he sticks to the work instead of trying to impress people with his status, he'll do fine.

When J and I made our truce, I promised him I wouldn't attack him and I wouldn't try to disprove his claims, but I also wouldn't pretend to agree with him if I didn't, and I wouldn't back him up on anything I didn't believe. I won't sign off on bullshit, in other words. I would be respectful but honest. He agreed. I think my assessment here is a fair one and not bashing. I hope he sees it the same way. And I hope it clarifies for you some of the history we have here.

[TomStillwell]

This is just freakin' hilarious because it's the worst case of 'pot calling the kettle black' that I've EVER seen.

After all... you're NEVER contrary, no matter what... right?

PAAAAAH-LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE!

Omar is not being contrary. He's just giving his opinion that I'm actually considering because there ARE still a couple of people on here who would thoroughly get off on ruining any business dealings I have, but on the other hand, it's also valid that others would want this same printing rate. Well, I'll take the advice of one of your earlier posts, Tom. Whoever I TRUST, I'll PM the info to, once I have the time to find it. I've been way too busy the past number of days to look for it, and I have it filed in one of my cabinets. Since I've made a major move, almost 4 months ago, it's a major chore to go through my cabinets, so when I have the time I'll look for it and only give the info to anyone I TRUST.

And, by the way... for the butt-crack, who is NOT in the "TRUST list," I haven't given the name of the printer because I don't outright remember it right now. I've had a lot of things on my mind and going through the crap I still have with the very few morons who still exist on here, doesn't help on that much.

J-Bolt, I'm never contray. If you knew the actual definition of most words you use instead of just pretending to know, you'd realize this.

I disagree and debate things that don't make sense. I question that which seems false to me and call anyone on outright lies. I demand integrity from people.

That's why you and I will always have issues. You lack integrity. The Bible says "let your yes be a yes and your no be a no." and that's part of my moral code. I don't think you know what the truth is anymore.

My best friend on this forum is Mac. Why? Because I trust Mac without question. I trust Mac enough to work with him on anything, to place my money at his disposal, and to offer him back stories in Honor Brigade. When Mac says something you can bank on it. That's the reason Mac is so loved here.

How did my friendship with Mac start? I saw that you stiffed him on posters and sent him some free ones to make up for it. Amazingly the posters survived the US Postal Service without insurance and found their way to Mac's house. I didn't even make him send a poster tube.

That's the thing, J-Bolt. No one trusts you, not even those you believe do.

Why is it any other creator can come on here and talk about their work without causing drama? Is it because secretly everyone hates you and wants you to fail as you've claimed time and time again? No. It's because no one trusts you.

From the start people have been trying to help you. You have no idea the discredit you've done to Gail in particular. She is your biggest cheerleader, which is huge. Not everyone has a DC pro on their side. But because she questioned some of your claims she became a basher along with everyone who would have supported you. All you needed to do was be a straight shooter with people to gain their trust.

Is the truth now so foreign to you now that anytime someone asks for it they become the enemy?

J-Bolt, I was done with this thread because of the huge waste of time it has become. You can't be honest with others if you can't be honest with yourself. But if you want to call me out, well, I'll step up to the plate. I wasn't your enemy but you're doing a fine job turning me into one.

Do yourself a favor and actually bury yourself in work instead of just claiming to be working. Then maybe you'll finish a comic before my daughter goes off to college.

[Roquefort Raider]

Why is it any other creator can come on here and talk about their work without causing drama?
Opinions may vary, but mine is that:

(a) Other creators actually produce and distribute comics instead of just talking (for years) about their eventual publication. Every other post of theirs isn't one of justification.

(b) Other creators claim to be simple creators. Such modesty inspires sympathy better than do outlandish claims of presidency or chairman-of-the-boardship of what is essentially a one-man operation.

(c) Other creators answer questions in a direct fashion instead of saying that it's too hard to to look for a crummy address in some file cabinet, or that providing the name of a printer might endanger one's business plans.

(d) Other creators don't react with outright hostility and vindictiveness to pretty normal and ordinary questions.

But of course, what do I know? Such remarks probably put me in the camp of those who
(...) are to be pitied because they are so stupid that special education students even look down upon them, slowly shaking their heads while making the "tsk tsk" sound.

In any case, good luck with Honor Brigade (a real book that we can buy in a shop and actually read). I wish the book a long and illustrious career.

And yes, I will wish the same to any of J-Bolt's books if they ever come out. I think everyone here agrees that self-publishing is a very diffcult task, and we would all love to see self-publishing attempts be crowned with success. But at the same time, I think that most people get irritated by poseurs and pretenders. Let's see them comics, and then we'll be able to talk about them!

[curefreak]

i dont think anyone is going to try and take on what image comics did with theyre publishing seeing the fiasco that business model turned out to be.

[Clement]

Concerning the detractors, you really might want to consider doing what I do and try your damndest to ignore them. I can name 4 of these morons right now, that I do everything possible to ignore. I can't convince them to get off of their little tirade, and I've come to peace with this. You won't either, Bub. Just ignore them, if at all possible, and only respond BRIEFLY if you absolutely, positively HAVE TO remark on it because the stupidity behind it has to be set straight to those who might be entertaining to those that follow such rederick (sp?). They are to be pitied because they are so stupid that special education students even look down upon them, slowly shaking their heads while making the "tsk tsk" sound. So, just do your best to ignore them and continue an intelligent conversation with those who deserve to have such with... as THEY are the only ones to talk with, on here.

J-;)

Damn I hope I'm one of those 4 people.

[J-Bolt]

Thanks, Gail...
You know... one of the things that are known about artists is that we're far more sensitive than people who aren't. So, we do tend to be much more prone to react to things more strongly. I'm sure anybody here would agree (except for those who don't agree with ANYTHING I say).

And thanks for the props.

J-:cool:

Yeah...you know, this is a thing most creative people I know, including me, and Mark Waid, and nearly all my pro friends do. It's just hard not to focus on the negative comments some time. A friend of mine, a very famous one, can read an entire thread of nothing but compliments about his work, but if, in the midst of all that praise, there's one negative comment, he will focus on that for the entire day. It's like the praise isn't as IMPORTANT somehow.

Like I say, I've done it myself. And for the most part I think J-bolt has taken the well-intended criticisms pretty well here lately, so props for that.

Gail

[J-Bolt]

Stuff like this is just uncalledfor and immature.:mad:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a309/Zapow21/churchsign.jpg

[J-Bolt]

I'm not going to come here more than once a week because I believe very strongly in responding to those who deserve such, but I'm not seeing much of that, in the past number of days since I read/responded to posts on here last. Most of the comments were from the jerky minority that don't deserve my time nor efforts. I hope the rest of you, the good majority, understand my position on that.

Hopefully, the next time I'm on here, I'll have some more to answer/respond to that are worth it. I just ignore the ones that aren't worth it anymore, not even reading ones that I can assure will be moronic, so that I don't go off as I did last time, since that does nothing but fuel their fires.

I'll find my printing verification whenever I have the time. It does exist, but I've already explained why I don't have easy access to it, at this time.

J-:cool:

[Matt Algren]

And, by the way... for the butt-crack, who is NOT in the "TRUST list," I haven't given the name of the printer because I don't outright remember it right now. I've had a lot of things on my mind and going through the crap I still have with the very few morons who still exist on here, doesn't help on that much.
Umm...

Did J-Bolt just call someone a 'butt-crack'?

[Roquefort Raider]

Umm...

Did J-Bolt just call someone a 'butt-crack'?

Only after being pushed beyond all measures by questions as mean-spirited and unimportant as "what might be the name of the printer who offers such great rates?"

There's a limit to what a man can take, after all.

[Gail Simone]

Well, it's not fun to have people jumping down your throat every post, I'm sure.

Gail

[curefreak]

gail when are you going to be up for sainthood?;)

[Clement]

Thanks, Gail...
You know... one of the things that are known about artists is that we're far more sensitive than people who aren't.
J-:cool:

You're far more sensitive than people who aren't sensitive ?

[Gail Simone]

gail when are you going to be up for sainthood?;)

Nothing saintly about it, it's just that we've been down this road a lot, and I think it's more interesting to hear what J-bolt's up to. He's making an effort to mend fences and I think that's nice, that's all.

Gail

[TomStillwell]

Stuff like this is just uncalledfor and immature.

You mean like comparing people to the developmentally challenged and thus turning those members of society who need special education into a derogatory?

They are to be pitied because they are so stupid that special education students even look down upon them, slowly shaking their heads while making the "tsk tsk" sound.

Yeah, that's not immature.

Gail, are you going to defend this too? This is the cross you want to take up?

J-Bolt and OMAR have been far more insulting in this thread than anybody else. At one point I was compared by OMAR to a Nazi sympathizer and J-Bolt just ignorantly slurred developmentally challenged people in order to insult those asking for the truth.

Why is it that J-Bolt is given carte blanche to insult folks but everyone else is jumping down his throat?

All of us, even those who think he's full of crap, have been respectful and supportive. Has that been reciprocated?

[curefreak]

Nothing saintly about it, it's just that we've been down this road a lot, and I think it's more interesting to hear what J-bolt's up to. He's making an effort to mend fences and I think that's nice, that's all.

Gail
yes but youre always so patient and nice and forgiving it makes me wonder if youre real.

[Crowley]

This is just freakin' hilarious because it's the worst case of 'pot calling the kettle black' that I've EVER seen.

After all... you're NEVER contrary, no matter what... right?

PAAAAAH-LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE!

Omar is not being contrary. He's just giving his opinion that I'm actually considering because there ARE still a couple of people on here who would thoroughly get off on ruining any business dealings I have, but on the other hand, it's also valid that others would want this same printing rate. Well, I'll take the advice of one of your earlier posts, Tom. Whoever I TRUST, I'll PM the info to, once I have the time to find it. I've been way too busy the past number of days to look for it, and I have it filed in one of my cabinets. Since I've made a major move, almost 4 months ago, it's a major chore to go through my cabinets, so when I have the time I'll look for it and only give the info to anyone I TRUST.

And, by the way... for the butt-crack, who is NOT in the "TRUST list," I haven't given the name of the printer because I don't outright remember it right now. I've had a lot of things on my mind and going through the crap I still have with the very few morons who still exist on here, doesn't help on that much.
off the top of your head you don't know the name of the company who's printing your book?

that's just staggering man. I'm pretty sure Tom knows who prints his books. I'm pretty sure I know who prints DDP's books.

J-Bolt,

I truly hope you suceed, but at this point If I was younger and had offered to do work for you and heard this... I would feel conned.

When and if you present proof of a printer... PM me and I will pop in and apologize for doubting you and soon hopefully after that you can get the script and the TIFF files together and send that puppy out. Until then, I wish you the best of luck with everything.

[howyadoin]

Well, it's not fun to have people jumping down your throat every post, I'm sure.I can think of a relatively easy way to avoid that.

[OMAR]

You mean like comparing people to the developmentally challenged and thus turning those members of society who need special education into a derogatory?

That sentence doesn't make much sense to me. You can't turn people into "a derogatory". If you mean that J-Bolt was implying that people in special education classes aren't very bright... well, they're not, are they? That's why they're in the class. Nothing in J-Bolt's comment says that he looks down on special ed students - other than to say that since they aren't very bright, and he thinks that they look down on an individual while slowly shaking their heads and making a "tsk tsk" sound, than that individual is even less smart than they are. What's the problem with that comment - are we supposed to believe you're outraged at the inference that special education students aren't smart?

J-Bolt and OMAR have been far more insulting in this thread than anybody else.

That's an outright lie. I believe a reading of the thread reveals that though we both have made some uncivil remarks in this thread it was only after being subject to page after page of personal insults.

I've already publicly apologized for adding more heat than light to the thread, and I've tried to be more positive since than. You, on the other hand, seem hellbent on this bizarre vendetta, despite the numerous requests of the forum host.

Gail, are you going to defend this too? This is the cross you want to take up?

And now you're getting all snide with her. What is this?!

At one point I was compared by OMAR to a Nazi sympathizer...

That makes it sound like I called you a Nazi or said you shared some of their views or something... that's far from the truth.

About that video, Tom. I can see the humor there, but I wish that your talents and time were devoted to a more deserving subject. Leni Reifenstahl, who's name I am almost certainly misspelling, was talented too. And like you, her films were enjoyed by their intended audience. But didn't they end up doing more harm than good in the long run? I see you on the path to becoming the YABS forum's answer to Leni Reifenstahl.

I stand by that comment. I complimented your talent and combined it with a warning about how such talents can be twisted to the wrong ends. I had clarified my position two posts later with this:

In any case, I didn't mean to say that he was being anti-semetic or was helping an evil dictator gain power, just that his filmmaking abilities could be channeled in a more positive direction. I certainly don't think Tom's a nazi for what he did, sorry if that was unclear.

...but I'm going to have to assume you missed that. Why else would you be so filled with righteous indignation, more than two months later, after not having referenced the issue in all that time? Well, I suppose it could be that you're scrambling for the moral high ground after realizing that week after week of beating up on two guys who are trying to mend fences is starting to make you look a heel, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt there.

...J-Bolt just ignorantly slurred developmentally challenged people in order to insult those asking for the truth.

That's another lie. He was insulting people who continue to badger and insult him and question his integrity (and do the same thing do LBC fans like me).

Though I'm still fascinated that you've decided to pretend that you think "special education" - that's the phrase J-Bolt used - students are being "slurred" by the implication that they are less than average intelligence. Whether it's due to a learning disability, a genetic problem, or just plain laziness, the kids in special education classes are there for a reason. That's not an unreasonable or offensive truth to reference and it doesn't mean they're good, bad, or indifferent as human beings - and I think you know that.

All of us, even those who think he's full of crap, have been respectful and supportive.

Ah, I see. Turns out you're totally insane.

Why can't we just end all this fussing and feuding? Who does it benefit? Not people who are interested in reading about "J-Bolt News". Not us LBC fans, that's for sure. Not people like Gail and Macquarrie, who may have reservations about J-Bolt but were hoping to engage him in a civil discourse. Just you and like two other guys who are more interested in scoring points than actually exchanging ideas.

Enough is enough. I'm going to take J-Bolt's advice - not going to contribute to your circus or respond to any more of your posts. You can take that as a victory if it helps.

[Gail Simone]

All right, look.

This is silly.



Let's pull back a little. I was enjoying hearing about the progress of the LBE stuff, and EVERYONE's being a little over-sensitive.

Just relax and start fresh. It's no big deal. There's a lot of fun to be had here if everyone would just unclench a little.

Gail

[Matt Algren]

All right, look.

This is silly.



Let's pull back a little. I was enjoying hearing about the progress of the LBE stuff, and EVERYONE's being a little over-sensitive.

Just relax and start fresh. It's no big deal. There's a lot of fun to be had here if everyone would just unclench a little.

Gail
I agree. (I know, I know, those were the words you were waiting for. Now you can make it through another day.)

Jim, I suggested a week or three ago that you hunker down and post less if this forum is getting in the way of your work. I still think that'd be a good idea.

However, if you're going to be here, you might think about taking a look at non-JBolt threads. If you come here and only look at the thread with your name on it, you're bound to find yourself under the microscope a bit. I mean, we've got one J-Bolt thread and literally tens of others that have nothing to do with your printer or the release date of your movie. It might be hard to believe, but whole conversations that have nothing to do with Bombshell are going on right now. How about taking a look around and posting in a few of them? I promise, it'll give you a more balanced view.

Just a few words of warning: 1) Stay away from the Ann Coulter thread. That thing's brutal and, depending on the time of night, sticky. 2) Yo-Go got shot in BoP. Don't mention it, that's his job. Finally, and most importantly, 3) FOR GOD'S SAKE DON'T MENTION ADRIAN PAUL AROUND LESTER! He goes nuts, and pretty soon it's bad acting and hairy chests all over the place.

[Carlton Donaghe]

Would anyone like me and/or J-Bolt to post his drawings of the characters from the comic we are doing for an Image submission?

[MacQuarrie]

Well, it's not fun to have people jumping down your throat every post, I'm sure.

Gail
I think that depends on whether or not one enjoys that sort of thing...

[Gail Simone]

Would anyone like me and/or J-Bolt to post his drawings of the characters from the comic we are doing for an Image submission?

I certainly would!

Gail

[Carlton Donaghe]

This is just a pencil sketch the J-Man has sent, but I like it. I reduced it in size for this board-- hope it's not too small.

http://www.zianet.com/donaghe/soldiers-sm.jpg

[SUPERECWFAN1]

This is just a pencil sketch the J-Man has sent, but I like it. I reduced it in size for this board-- hope it's not too small.

http://www.zianet.com/donaghe/soldiers-sm.jpg


That looks better than his WSL stuff. J-Bolt I think you should concentrate on the Image stuff man. As a fan that looks impressive and is way better than the LBS creations !

[Carlton Donaghe]

This is just a pencil sketch the J-Man has sent, but I like it. I reduced it in size for this board-- hope it's not too small.

http://www.zianet.com/donaghe/soldiers-sm.jpg

Sorry to quote myself, but...

In front, from left to right: Sgt. Jacob Padilla, Lieutenant Joseph "Golden Joe" Dunham, Jane Archer;
Back row: Levi and Zack Fitzsimmons.

Remember, this is just a preliminary sketch, without J-'s usual detailing... but I think it's fine the way it is.

I'm currently doing my third draft of the first script.

[Gail Simone]

Cool!

Who at Image are you talking with, Carlton?

Gail

[Carlton Donaghe]

Hey, Gail,

We aren't talking with anyone yet, because we don't have any comic pages done. I know that a lot of folks start warning Image early that they're sending a submission, but we're just going to follow the guidelines. Perhaps once we send the physical package in I might do some e-mail, but otherwise I'm holding off. My problem is that I don't want to promise something and not deliver.

Does this sound like good or bad policy to you? If I'm being too cautious, I'd like to know.

Thanks.

[Edit: To, too, two]

[Crowley]

now that looks really good...

[MacQuarrie]

Hey, Gail,

We aren't talking with anyone yet, because we don't have any comic pages done. I know that a lot of folks start warning Image early that they're sending a submission, but we're just going to follow the guidelines. Perhaps once we send the physical package in I might do some e-mail, but otherwise I'm holding off. My problem is that I don't want to promise something and not deliver.

Does this sound like good or bad policy to you? If I'm being to cautious, I'd like to know.

Thanks.
It's very good policy.

You know, if J-Bolt had followed the policy of not talking about a project until it was ready to show, he would have had a lot less hassle over the last few years. It's really good to see him transitioning to the "show, don't tell" model. This stuff looks good. I hope it goes well for the two of you.

[EdContradictory]

now that looks really good...
They all certainly have enough pockets to carry whatever they might need into battle.

[curefreak]

They all certainly have enough pockets to carry whatever they might need into battle.
it always amazes me when superheros were pockets just for fashion it seems a little pointless.

[Dreadstar]

It always amazes me when superheros wear pockets just for fashion. It seems a little pointless.

When I see pockets on a costume, I usually assume functionality. Not unlike Batman and his utility belt, for example.

[Gail Simone]

I think it looks fun, hope to see more.

Gail

[TCJohnson]

J-Bolt really does have a good dose of artistic talent. He really needs to push himself and be more critical of himself to become really great but...I always thought the potential was always there.

[Carlton Donaghe]

They all certainly have enough pockets to carry whatever they might need into battle.

I specifically asked the J-Man to give their costumes pockets. And weapons. Even though they're going to have powers, I want them to go into situations fully prepared for action.

Also, each person's uniform has the same design, but with different color schemes. The Fitzsimmons brothers have the same color scheme, just reversed one from the other.

And yeah, I hope we can pull it off.

[Crowley]

They all certainly have enough pockets to carry whatever they might need into battle.
they might need alot of Power Bars...

but you know... whatever. This is MILES above J-bolt's previous stuff.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

they might need alot of Power Bars...

but you know... whatever. This is MILES above J-bolt's previous stuff.


I agree.....thats pretty damn good right there. I'd say J-Bolt shopuld concentrate in getting his name exposed via the Image project here and then he'll have a wider fanbase for LBC.

[TomStillwell]

Nice sketch.

I'd like to see 20+ sequential pages of the same.

[Carlton Donaghe]

Tom,

I know-- some of the delay is my fault. As I said earlier, I'm on my third draft of the first script, even though I've got the first four issues roughed out in detail (like page and panel breakdowns).

The first draft, of course, I sent to Jim, then we talked about it, and based on that, I wrote a second. He liked it quite a bit, but I told him I wanted to do a third.

The third is a pretty significant rewrite, done solely to satisfy myself. I wanted to make sure I had the big revelation at the end of the first issue set up properly, I wanted to flesh out the characters a little more, and I wanted to portray what their lives were like previous to the change that takes place. I've done all that, and I'm pretty happy with it. I've got one scene left to write, and I'm having a little trouble with it. It's probably not a big deal, but it's mostly conversation, and I'm wanting the dialogue to reflect character (well, d'uh). Plus, I've been screwing around the last few days pretty heavily. I do that sometimes while my subconscious percolates an answer.

I don't want to spend this kind of time on every script... it's just that with this first one, I really want to make sure I've got all my ducks in a row, you know?

After I send the script to the J-Man, then we'll see.

[TomStillwell]

Drop me a line if you need some help on that last scene.

[curefreak]

the big guy on the left looks like the hulk.

[Carlton Donaghe]

Drop me a line if you need some help on that last scene.

Thanks, Tom, but really, I need to just quit fooling around and finish it.

[Wingnut]

J-

Hope everything is going well, and you're feeling better. The new sketches are looking good.

Take care, and best wishes!

[Gail Simone]

Yeah, this stuff looks entertaining. Hope it all works out for the best!

Gail

[J-Bolt]

Precisely, Gail...
I'm more than happy to have a friendly talk with people who aren't willing to 'jump down my throat' and find great joy in conversations with those people. Unfortunately, they aren't posting enough for me to converse with.

Sorry I've had to lessen my visits on here (Hell... I think it's been about 3 weeks since I last logged on, as a matter of fact), but I've been extremely busy.

Very soon, I might even be taking a trip to London to spend about a month with a buddy of mine who is a black metal star, talking about investing in my company, plus he wants to give me a vacation away from some personal problems I've had with my family, as of late. I still have the one investor-friend, that I'm doing the Vampirella painting of, but it never hurts to have a back-up plan on anything one does... right? And one thing I'm known for is having a back-up plan on everything possible, with exception of a recent situation that I mentioned here, and will address in another post.
J-:cool:

Well, it's not fun to have people jumping down your throat every post, I'm sure.

Gail

[J-Bolt]

Actually, I was far from slurring anybody with special needs, as they are the most unconditionally loving, bright people I've ever had contact with and do whatever I can to volunteer what I can for them, because I love them so much.

No... quite the contrary, people with axes to grind against anybody they choose to pick on (such as those who take shots on me) look down at the special education students. My remark what that those who THEY look down on, would most likely look down upon them... but their doing so would have validity to it.

When you get in a dispute with someone from special education, it is easy to stop and apologiz to each other and move on, never having to worry about the problem being re-hashed again. With the morons I was directing my remarks at, that couldn't be farthest from the truth, as they want to continually add fuel to the fire... as is their entertainment.

Kudos to you, Omar, for taking my advice and just letting these fools find a court which will be entertained by their jester.
J-:cool:

That sentence doesn't make much sense to me. You can't turn people into "a derogatory". If you mean that J-Bolt was implying that people in special education classes aren't very bright... well, they're not, are they? That's why they're in the class. Nothing in J-Bolt's comment says that he looks down on special ed students - other than to say that since they aren't very bright, and he thinks that they look down on an individual while slowly shaking their heads and making a "tsk tsk" sound, than that individual is even less smart than they are. What's the problem with that comment - are we supposed to believe you're outraged at the inference that special education students aren't smart?



That's an outright lie. I believe a reading of the thread reveals that though we both have made some uncivil remarks in this thread it was only after being subject to page after page of personal insults.

I've already publicly apologized for adding more heat than light to the thread, and I've tried to be more positive since than. You, on the other hand, seem hellbent on this bizarre vendetta, despite the numerous requests of the forum host.



And now you're getting all snide with her. What is this?!



That makes it sound like I called you a Nazi or said you shared some of their views or something... that's far from the truth.



I stand by that comment. I complimented your talent and combined it with a warning about how such talents can be twisted to the wrong ends. I had clarified my position two posts later with this:



...but I'm going to have to assume you missed that. Why else would you be so filled with righteous indignation, more than two months later, after not having referenced the issue in all that time? Well, I suppose it could be that you're scrambling for the moral high ground after realizing that week after week of beating up on two guys who are trying to mend fences is starting to make you look a heel, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt there.



That's another lie. He was insulting people who continue to badger and insult him and question his integrity (and do the same thing do LBC fans like me).

Though I'm still fascinated that you've decided to pretend that you think "special education" - that's the phrase J-Bolt used - students are being "slurred" by the implication that they are less than average intelligence. Whether it's due to a learning disability, a genetic problem, or just plain laziness, the kids in special education classes are there for a reason. That's not an unreasonable or offensive truth to reference and it doesn't mean they're good, bad, or indifferent as human beings - and I think you know that.



Ah, I see. Turns out you're totally insane.

Why can't we just end all this fussing and feuding? Who does it benefit? Not people who are interested in reading about "J-Bolt News". Not us LBC fans, that's for sure. Not people like Gail and Macquarrie, who may have reservations about J-Bolt but were hoping to engage him in a civil discourse. Just you and like two other guys who are more interested in scoring points than actually exchanging ideas.

Enough is enough. I'm going to take J-Bolt's advice - not going to contribute to your circus or respond to any more of your posts. You can take that as a victory if it helps.

[J-Bolt]

Here, here, Gail!:)

All right, look.

This is silly.



Let's pull back a little. I was enjoying hearing about the progress of the LBE stuff, and EVERYONE's being a little over-sensitive.

Just relax and start fresh. It's no big deal. There's a lot of fun to be had here if everyone would just unclench a little.

Gail

[J-Bolt]

LOL... I'd love to, but I just don't have the time right now. When everything is done and I have more free time, to myself, I just might do that, though.

Meanwhile, I have been looking into earlier suggestions of doing a J-Bolt MySpace, with Blog and everything involved. I'm toying around with it in my limited free time and could possibly have a good one up & running by January '07, where we can talk about many different subjects, concerning me, my company and the comic book industry in general.

If you're interested in that concept, register on the LBE Online site and start your own conversation of your opinions of me doing so and, while you're at it, suggest to me what I should put in there, that I might not know about (which, if that's the case, please also instruct me on how to do it because I'll be doing this project all on my lonesome).
Thanks,
J-:cool:

I agree. (I know, I know, those were the words you were waiting for. Now you can make it through another day.)

Jim, I suggested a week or three ago that you hunker down and post less if this forum is getting in the way of your work. I still think that'd be a good idea.

However, if you're going to be here, you might think about taking a look at non-JBolt threads. If you come here and only look at the thread with your name on it, you're bound to find yourself under the microscope a bit. I mean, we've got one J-Bolt thread and literally tens of others that have nothing to do with your printer or the release date of your movie. It might be hard to believe, but whole conversations that have nothing to do with Bombshell are going on right now. How about taking a look around and posting in a few of them? I promise, it'll give you a more balanced view.

Just a few words of warning: 1) Stay away from the Ann Coulter thread. That thing's brutal and, depending on the time of night, sticky. 2) Yo-Go got shot in BoP. Don't mention it, that's his job. Finally, and most importantly, 3) FOR GOD'S SAKE DON'T MENTION ADRIAN PAUL AROUND LESTER! He goes nuts, and pretty soon it's bad acting and hairy chests all over the place.

[J-Bolt]

Thanks, Wingnut...
My health is doing far better and I've been working my butt off... just having difficulties with family situations that cause some turmoil with keeping focused as no matter where I go, they follow to bother me some more, telling me they want me to give them money for nothing... typical of blood-relatives.
J-:cool:

J-

Hope everything is going well, and you're feeling better. The new sketches are looking good.

Take care, and best wishes!

[J-Bolt]

I know I'm going to end up gettting a bunch of flack, grunts and groans from this choice of mine, in hiring on a cast member that would guarantee the National publicity, but here goes...

I had spoken with Robert Blake's agent about playing the role of BombShell/Jen Layton's father in the film, mostly because he needed the work, after publicly telling everybody on the planet that he's now only making $27,500 a year as a stable boy, wanting SOME kind of acting role... so I offered this to him. It's a role that is seen quite a few times throughout the script and I even offered him the amount that the top cast are getting.

My doing this obviously would not only benefit him. With me, it was going to get MAJOR exposure as they get an interview on him Nationally, everytime the guy wants to talk. This is the kind of news everybody wanted to hear... that he finally got a 2nd chance and somebody wanted him in a role, no matter how big or small (Gail has the script, so she knows that it's a fairly good-sized role he'd have in it off and on in the film).

It would've helped me the best because he is such a controversial figure which half the world absolutely hates and the other half absolutely supports: both on a fanatical level. So, the half that hates him would come to see him in the film just to bash the Hell out of him some more, probably more than once, while the other half would all go just to support him as strongly, DEFINITELY going more than once. That would have granted me a possible $25-50million opening weekend alone: a blockbuster.

I'm agnostic on whether or not he actually committed the crime he was aquitted of, but lost in civil court, but I do know that his involvement would've definitely helped me and him in our careers.

Here's the funny thing... a few weeks ago, his agent contacted me back, sending back the script because Blake felt that his role wasn't big enough (coming from a guy who said he wanted ANY SIZE acting role) and that he felt I was exploiting him. Now, I don't 100% feel that I was exploiting him, but even if I was, if I were in his predicament and desperate to get a movie role, I wouldn't hesitate but to let somebody exploit me all to hell and back for just one film... would you?

So... either he's not as desperate as he seems to make himself out to be, or the rumors of him being crazy really are true in that he desperately wants a role, but only one that's BIG enough for him and will turn down anything else he feels his beneath his due of being on film. You be the judge.

Anyway, I did not have a back-up plan for that one considering that his agent assured me that he'd take the role, from the very first conversation for all the reasons stated. So, I'm back at the drawing board with that one and am just continuing my work, while I think of something else which could turn out just as monumental.
J-:confused:

[Matt Algren]

Nice to see you posting again, Jim. Quick tip---You might want to edit your last post to take out the amount you're expecting to pay your cast.

[J-Bolt]

Good idea... done.
Thanks,
J-:cool:

Nice to see you posting again, Jim. Quick tip---You might want to edit your last post to take out the amount you're expecting to pay your cast.

[Clement]

It would've helped me the best because he is such a controversial figure which half the world absolutely hates and the other half absolutely supports: both on a fanatical level. So, the half that hates him would come to see him in the film just to bash the Hell out of him some more, probably more than once, while the other half would all go just to support him as strongly, DEFINITELY going more than once. That would have granted me a possible $25-50million opening weekend alone: a blockbuster.

I'm agnostic on whether or not he actually committed the crime he was aquitted of, but lost in civil court, but I do know that his involvement would've definitely helped me and him in our careers.

J-:confused:



So having Robert Blake in a supporting role in a movie based on a comic book that nobody has ever heard of would have granted you a possible 25-50 million opening weekend alone.

Seriously dude, if a statement like THAT doesn't prove to everybody here how out of touch with reality you are, nothing will.

But you're right, who gives a fuck if he murdered a human being as long as that helps you get your name out there...

[MacQuarrie]

So having Robert Blake in a supporting role in a movie based on a comic book that nobody has ever heard of would have granted you a possible 25-50 million opening weekend alone.

Seriously dude, if a statement like THAT doesn't prove to everybody here how out of touch with reality you are, nothing will.

But you're right, who gives a fuck if he murdered a human being as long as that helps you get your name out there...
Be fair. He most likely paid to have a human being murdered. I doubt he actually did it himself.

[TomStillwell]

It would've helped me the best because he is such a controversial figure which half the world absolutely hates and the other half absolutely supports: both on a fanatical level. So, the half that hates him would come to see him in the film just to bash the Hell out of him some more, probably more than once, while the other half would all go just to support him as strongly, DEFINITELY going more than once. That would have granted me a possible $25-50million opening weekend alone: a blockbuster.

I know you're going to take this as an attack because frankly, you take everything I say as an attack no matter the intention, but I think you are grossly overestimating the drawing power of Robert Blake or anyone of such caliber.

Robert Blake is yesterday's new, and D-list news at that. Once out of the public eye he was out of their minds as well. There's a reason he's working as a stable boy: Nobody cares about him. They don't love him, they don't hate him, he's not even on their radar.

Batman Begins took in 48.7 million dollars its opening weekend. Superman Returns took in 52.4 million. Both movies had fairly big budgets, well known and respected directors, top rated actors, worldwide iconic themes, and Warner Brothers behind them with all the marketing & PR they could muster.

Robert Blake wasn't going to be your great equalizer.

You can't compete with the big boys. You aren't capable. Hype and controversy aren't going to bring you into their league, just as it won't in comics.

What you can do, what we've all been trying to make you realize, is to do the best you can with what you have. You can't be a big boy. Saying it doesn't make it true. But you can be a really good small guy doing really good things with comics and movies. But you can't do those things until you stop trying to be a faux big boy.

Before you make have a $50 million dollar box office you need to put out a movie that turns a profit. Before you sell 25,000 comics you need to sell one.

Start small and build up. I know you can do it if you try. You keep trying to build the house without a foundation...you won't have a house for long.

Despite what you think of me, I do have your best interest at heart and want you to succeed. Please take my advice in that spirit.

[Gail Simone]

That is bizarre...Robert Blake?


I'll confess, I always had some affection for him as an actor, since In Cold Blood and even enjoyed his Little Rascals stuff, and his other appearances.

Strange about his agent...maybe Robert didn't REALLY mean all that stuff he was saying (I saw it too) that he needed work really badly, any size role.

Weird stuff!

Gail

[SUPERECWFAN1]

That is bizarre...Robert Blake?


I'll confess, I always had some affection for him as an actor, since In Cold Blood and even enjoyed his Little Rascals stuff, and his other appearances.

Strange about his agent...maybe Robert didn't REALLY mean all that stuff he was saying (I saw it too) that he needed work really badly, any size role.

Weird stuff!

Gail

I believe its said Blake could sell his house or such and move in with his daughter and stay for free. And its not shocking because Robert Blake has showed he has a history where he doesn't like to work as much.

He had a hit show following Baretta in the 80's with Helltown which got renewed by NBC and Blake walked. Because he felt tired by being the writer , director and actor of the series. That it was too much work. Its said he told friends he perfered doing an odd movie role every few years and besides 1997's "Lost Highway " he has done no work.

Now J-Bolt , if you were banking $ 25 Million on Robert Blake I really am scared for you. Because again Blake's notieritey will only cash in so much. He's not gonna make you have a hit flick at all and thinking you could bank on him and his " supposed star power " is a huge laugh. And I'm supporting you on this.

Blake's big era is over. The 70's/80's were his key era. He's good for a suprise in the film as the father figure. But in no way do you think he's gonna land you $ 25 Million.

Maybe you should go with smaller expectations and go for a See No Evil situation. In that , WWE went with New Line Cinema to distribute the film to 1,200 screens and they went with a $ 8 Million Budget.

The WWE & New Line wanted $ 15 million back in Box Office recipts and the film did it in its run. Maybe you need to go with a smaller budget in the $ 8-10 Million range and do the best film you can with that type of budget.

Because again ...Robert Blake isn't gonna be the guy to carry a major budgeted film. Hell heres a suggestion.....go get Mike Farrell. The guy from M.A.S.H. He's played father figures on TV ( Providence ) and he's a 70's star as well. Farrell would likely do this film since he's not a huge A-List star and his salary could work with what you need.

[MacQuarrie]

Jim, Tom's got a point. You can't play in the same sandbox with the likes of Superman and Batman. Like it or not Bombshell is an unknown quantity with no public awareness or history, as opposed to Spider-Man (40+ years), Batman (60+ years), and Superman (damn near 70 years). The Superman logo is one of the best-known symbols in the world. They know who Superman is in Zambia. And they have a huge multinational entertainment conglomerate with very deep pockets. You don't. You can't compete with them.

But you know who you can compete with? Napoleon Dynamite. Not in terms of genre, but in terms of making a brilliant film with very little money. We are now at the point where very impressive special effects can be produced using consumer-level software and computer packages. Don't believe me? Check out some of the work being done using Hash's Animation: Master (http://amfilms.hash.com/).

Forget about big stars, or even d-list celebs. Who was the big-name draw in Napoleon Dynamite? Nobody, that's who. In the '70s, who was the big-name draw in "American Graffiti"? Wolfman Jack. That movie held the record for highest return on investment for decades.

My advice to you is to forget about casting. Focus on production values and ways of cutting the budget without impairing the project, and cast whoever you can find. You can make this movie for very little money if you stop trying to throw busloads of money at has-been actors. Just get it done.

Then show it to the studios and get one to sign on. Then reshoot it with a bigger budget and some higher-profile actors. That's what the makers of Napoleon Dynamite did.

[Gail Simone]

I actually think the cast J-bolt wants has some appeal simply because it IS so off-the-wall. I wouldn't bank on the entire cast to open individually for ten bucks each, but maybe with all of them there's a definite Rocky Horror vibe. Hell, I'd go see it.

Gail

[TomStillwell]

Here's your ticket, Gail. That will be $143,982. Hey, he's got to make that 25 million somehow.

Wait until you hit the concessions...

[Gail Simone]

I'm just saying that an oddball cast could have a curiosity appeal that the budget might not otherwise afford. I'd certainly rather go see a movie with the very off-beat cast J mentions than some of the typical yawn-a-thons cluttering up the video shelves these days.

Gail

[Ninja Kris]

Maybe Adrian Paul should be in the movie.

Kristin

[Gail Simone]

NUDE!

Gail

[EdContradictory]

So, the half that hates him would come to see him in the film just to bash the Hell out of him some more, probably more than once, while the other half would all go just to support him as strongly, DEFINITELY going more than once.
Neither of those things would happen.

[J-Bolt]

Precisely... I can't figure it out, either. But... that's his loss.
When I first spoke with his agent, he was so excited about it, he sounded like he wet himself.

When I got the contact info from the National news show, they had that same excitement, making me PROMISE to call them when he signed and they'd make tracks to get that story in, and Blake's agent said that he'd let the others know (who did the same interviews at the same time, whenever he's on). So, he shot himself, this time (no pun intended... well, maybe a little one).

Like I said... I'm agnostic on whether he did it or not because I saw evidence that suggests he did it, but then again, I saw timing that wouldn't allow for it to happen. So, I just don't know. All I was doing was offering a desperate, controversial actor a role as a lovable character in a film (with quite some screen time, at that) and he was crazy enough to turn it down. His agent even sounded pissed about him doing so. I foresee this agent quitting working with him because Blake has SERIOUSLY now made himself more unhirable than ever.

J-:cool:

That is bizarre...Robert Blake?


I'll confess, I always had some affection for him as an actor, since In Cold Blood and even enjoyed his Little Rascals stuff, and his other appearances.

Strange about his agent...maybe Robert didn't REALLY mean all that stuff he was saying (I saw it too) that he needed work really badly, any size role.

Weird stuff!

Gail

[J-Bolt]

I wasn't going for his "star power." I was going for his "controversial power." Half the people hate him so much, while the other half support him so much, they'd go see him just out of curiosity, and make even more controversy over it... and controversy in film definitely sells (just ask Mel Gibson).
By the way, my film is in the medium-range budget under the amount that you stated.
J-:cool:

I believe its said Blake could sell his house or such and move in with his daughter and stay for free. And its not shocking because Robert Blake has showed he has a history where he doesn't like to work as much.

He had a hit show following Baretta in the 80's with Helltown which got renewed by NBC and Blake walked. Because he felt tired by being the writer , director and actor of the series. That it was too much work. Its said he told friends he perfered doing an odd movie role every few years and besides 1997's "Lost Highway " he has done no work.

Now J-Bolt , if you were banking $ 25 Million on Robert Blake I really am scared for you. Because again Blake's notieritey will only cash in so much. He's not gonna make you have a hit flick at all and thinking you could bank on him and his " supposed star power " is a huge laugh. And I'm supporting you on this.

Blake's big era is over. The 70's/80's were his key era. He's good for a suprise in the film as the father figure. But in no way do you think he's gonna land you $ 25 Million.

Maybe you should go with smaller expectations and go for a See No Evil situation. In that , WWE went with New Line Cinema to distribute the film to 1,200 screens and they went with a $ 8 Million Budget.

The WWE & New Line wanted $ 15 million back in Box Office recipts and the film did it in its run. Maybe you need to go with a smaller budget in the $ 8-10 Million range and do the best film you can with that type of budget.

Because again ...Robert Blake isn't gonna be the guy to carry a major budgeted film. Hell heres a suggestion.....go get Mike Farrell. The guy from M.A.S.H. He's played father figures on TV ( Providence ) and he's a 70's star as well. Farrell would likely do this film since he's not a huge A-List star and his salary could work with what you need.

[J-Bolt]

Mac...
I'm quite familiar wth the Animation Master program, as I own it and update it every year.
I'm not trying to compete with the bigger budget films as is shown by the fact that I won't have mine come out anywhere other than a 2-month window from their's.
I have top people backing me up on getting it done right and have a small distributor contract, so that I have leverage when it's taken to the festivals before release. Trust me when I say I'm getting advice from all the top people I'm working with on this: Stewart Raffill, Jackson Bostwick, etc., who have produced, directed, etc. great films that had a lower budget but turned them into box-office smashes.
I don't want this sold to another studio as we didn't see eye-to-eye on how it should be done, hence, I'm doing it independantly.
J-:cool:

Jim, Tom's got a point. You can't play in the same sandbox with the likes of Superman and Batman. Like it or not Bombshell is an unknown quantity with no public awareness or history, as opposed to Spider-Man (40+ years), Batman (60+ years), and Superman (damn near 70 years). The Superman logo is one of the best-known symbols in the world. They know who Superman is in Zambia. And they have a huge multinational entertainment conglomerate with very deep pockets. You don't. You can't compete with them.

But you know who you can compete with? Napoleon Dynamite. Not in terms of genre, but in terms of making a brilliant film with very little money. We are now at the point where very impressive special effects can be produced using consumer-level software and computer packages. Don't believe me? Check out some of the work being done using Hash's Animation: Master (http://amfilms.hash.com/).

Forget about big stars, or even d-list celebs. Who was the big-name draw in Napoleon Dynamite? Nobody, that's who. In the '70s, who was the big-name draw in "American Graffiti"? Wolfman Jack. That movie held the record for highest return on investment for decades.

My advice to you is to forget about casting. Focus on production values and ways of cutting the budget without impairing the project, and cast whoever you can find. You can make this movie for very little money if you stop trying to throw busloads of money at has-been actors. Just get it done.

Then show it to the studios and get one to sign on. Then reshoot it with a bigger budget and some higher-profile actors. That's what the makers of Napoleon Dynamite did.

[J-Bolt]

They did with "The Last Temptation Of Christ" and not just because Mel Gibson did the movie... it was because of the strong controversial subject.

Neither of those things would happen.

[TomStillwell]

They did with "The Last Temptation Of Christ" and not just because Mel Gibson did the movie... it was because of the strong controversial subject.

Or maybe because the entire world knows about Jesus, whether they believe him to be God or not, and felt the story would be a compelling one worth seeing?

Do you really think the boring scandal of a has-been actor equates with the death/sacrifice of what a good portion of world believes to be the Son of God?

[Gail Simone]

Mac...
I'm quite familiar wth the Animation Master program, as I own it and update it every year.
I'm not trying to compete with the bigger budget films as is shown by the fact that I won't have mine come out anywhere other than a 2-month window from their's.
I have top people backing me up on getting it done right and have a small distributor contract, so that I have leverage when it's taken to the festivals before release. Trust me when I say I'm getting advice from all the top people I'm working with on this: Stewart Raffill, Jackson Bostwick, etc., who have produced, directed, etc. great films that had a lower budget but turned them into box-office smashes.
I don't want this sold to another studio as we didn't see eye-to-eye on how it should be done, hence, I'm doing it independantly.
J-:cool:


Wait...I love Jackson and think the world of him, but Jackson producing a 'box office smash"? What would that be? I've talked with him a lot, he's spoken at length of his career highlights, and much as I adore the guy (and think Hollywood gave him a raw deal), I can't see any box office smashes he's produced. IMDB has him as executive producing one film I've never heard of, and I know he had a couple other things he was working on but I don't believe they've come out, so it's hard to see them as box-office smashes.

Even as an actor, I wouldn't call most of that resume 'box office smashes,' would you?

I'm not being sarcastic, just don't understand. Maybe you can clarify your statement a little...perhaps I'm missing something.

Best,

Gail

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Do you really think the boring scandal of a has-been actor equates with the death/sacrifice of what a good portion of world believes to be the Son of God?


You know Robert Blake was crucified for our sins ! ( goin to Heck for that one )

[SUPERECWFAN1]

I wasn't going for his "star power." I was going for his "controversial power." Half the people hate him so much, while the other half support him so much, they'd go see him just out of curiosity, and make even more controversy over it... and controversy in film definitely sells (just ask Mel Gibson).
By the way, my film is in the medium-range budget under the amount that you stated.
J-:cool:

Your film wouldn't sell that much though. Because your film project is considered " a Sci-Fi Comic Book film " unlike Mel Gibson's movie. And Gibson had to self finiace his own film and it was a huge risk that paid off huge . The fact is theres a lot of Christians in the USA. And Churches filled those seats a lot of the weeks " Passion " was out.

Your film is starting a franchise you hope will translate to comic book sales. Of course your film is a bigger risk than Gibson's movie. We have no clue what your film will appeal to yet. Will it appeal to the sci-fi fans ? The fans who want a love story ? Or is it a comedic film in the vein of " Mystery Men " ?

If your casting Robert Blake trying to gasp at millions in controversy then your in trouble. Because Blake's " star power " isn't what it once was and your film is an unknown franchise at this point.

[J-Bolt]

Right... granted. As far as Jackson, he knows how to produce a high-concept film with a low-medium size budget.
Where my strength lies is Stewart Raffill backing me up 100% as Director and letting me use his name as Co-Executive Producer, even though he doesn't have time to produce. He stated that he wanted to lend his name to that title so that I could use his reputation to back up whatever I needed to do with the project.
J-:cool:

Wait...I love Jackson and think the world of him, but Jackson producing a 'box office smash"? What would that be? I've talked with him a lot, he's spoken at length of his career highlights, and much as I adore the guy (and think Hollywood gave him a raw deal), I can't see any box office smashes he's produced. IMDB has him as executive producing one film I've never heard of, and I know he had a couple other things he was working on but I don't believe they've come out, so it's hard to see them as box-office smashes.

Even as an actor, I wouldn't call most of that resume 'box office smashes,' would you?

I'm not being sarcastic, just don't understand. Maybe you can clarify your statement a little...perhaps I'm missing something.

Best,

Gail

[J-Bolt]

I wrote BombShell just as a good movie story with all different aspects of good films in it, so that there's something for everybody. It's definitely not a comical film, and it's definitely not a sci-fi film. I wrote it as just a deep story where 2 characters in it wear these outfits which are completely explained in the story, so that they come to be their motives more than costumes.
J-:cool:

Your film wouldn't sell that much though. Because your film project is considered " a Sci-Fi Comic Book film " unlike Mel Gibson's movie. And Gibson had to self finiace his own film and it was a huge risk that paid off huge . The fact is theres a lot of Christians in the USA. And Churches filled those seats a lot of the weeks " Passion " was out.

Your film is starting a franchise you hope will translate to comic book sales. Of course your film is a bigger risk than Gibson's movie. We have no clue what your film will appeal to yet. Will it appeal to the sci-fi fans ? The fans who want a love story ? Or is it a comedic film in the vein of " Mystery Men " ?

If your casting Robert Blake trying to gasp at millions in controversy then your in trouble. Because Blake's " star power " isn't what it once was and your film is an unknown franchise at this point.

[Gail Simone]

Right... granted. As far as Jackson, he knows how to produce a high-concept film with a low-medium size budget.
Where my strength lies is Stewart Raffill backing me up 100% as Director and letting me use his name as Co-Executive Producer, even though he doesn't have time to produce. He stated that he wanted to lend his name to that title so that I could use his reputation to back up whatever I needed to do with the project.
J-:cool:


Ah, okay, figured I was missing your point. Well, I wish you well, and it would be great to see Jackson in a film again.

Gail

[kcarroll]

They did with "The Last Temptation Of Christ" and not just because Mel Gibson did the movie... it was because of the strong controversial subject.

Just a quick point, Mel Gibson did the Passion of the Christ, not the Last Temptation. The Passion was successful because the believers felt it was a faithful retelling of the Passion.

The Last Temptation, directed by Martin Scorsese, was not a box office success primarily due to the controversy.

[EdContradictory]

They did with "The Last Temptation Of Christ" and not just because Mel Gibson did the movie... it was because of the strong controversial subject.
Martin Scorsese made "The Last Temptation of Christ".

There's nothing controversial about your subject.

You think casting Blake, in and of itself, is controversial.

It's not.

No one gives a crap about Robert Blake.

[Guapo Méndez]

I had to (well, going to) google Robert Blake to even see who he is and what he did.

[TomStillwell]

But now you passionately hate or love him and will run out to see whatever movie he's in twice for full price, right?

[SUPERECWFAN1]

I had to (well, going to) google Robert Blake to even see who he is and what he did.

Go to Imdb. The man did Baretta . He's pretty much winded down and not did anything except Helltown which he could have kept doing in the 80's but he walked away. That it was too much for him.

They claimed he killed his wife. But the case was a clusterfuck of crap. Blake had no gun eveidence on his hands. The gun used didn't match anything Blake owned or carried with him. In his story he parked 2 blocks away from a restraunt and carried a gun because he got in an arguement with someone who ate at the restraunt and he was too old to fight them.

The former stunt men/body guards became a silly thing to watch. One forgot the date of his meeting with Blake , another changed details on the stand. In all the case was a massive " He said he wanted her dead " with really no proof. Except for the eccentric living arrangement Blake had with her. He lived in the main house and she lived in his little guest home on his property since they had a little girl.

Even if Robert Blake did do the crime , with what they had they should have got more evidence. Because all they really had was some old eccentric guy who told all the people who used to work for him he wanted his new wife dead. The Jury contends he could have done it but they couldn'tr convict him with what they had presented to them.

Its not like Bonnie Lee Bakley was some innocent person in all this. She was a massive con artist who conned men all across the nation , leaving them broke. Hell she even got close to Jerry Lee Lewis at one point which was funny.

So when Blake's attorney's said that Bakley's past could have caught her , it was a reasonable doubt. Because there was along line of angry people there as well.

[J-Bolt]

I stand corrected.

Just a quick point, Mel Gibson did the Passion of the Christ, not the Last Temptation. The Passion was successful because the believers felt it was a faithful retelling of the Passion.

The Last Temptation, directed by Martin Scorsese, was not a box office success primarily due to the controversy.

[Gail Simone]

I stand corrected.


I don't know that it's fair to say the controversy was a big factor in the failure of Last Temptation, in any case. I think they knew it was a niche film at best, despite the quality.

Gail

[TomStillwell]

Well, Passion drew the Christians of the world to see it, sometimes more than once and to buy the DVD.

I know that my own church had several outtings to go see the movie with many return viewers. They sell the DVD in the church bookstore.

The very nature of Last drove those very same people away because they were offended by the portrayal of Jesus.

[Crowley]

Last Temptation is one of the best movies to inspire discussion in regards to the Bible.

Love that film... Love Keitel and Dafoe and love the Peter Gabriel soundtrack too.

as for Blake...

"Oh Yeah! Beretta did that shit!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u44GSvJIV3Y

[Guapo Méndez]

I saw parts of Temptation...pretty meh. I've yet to see Passion.
But after 5 years of hype, I'll damn well see Bombshell.

[kcarroll]

Perhaps you're right, Gail, the Last Temptation may have been seen as a niche film, but I do think that the backlash against the film kept many people away. Just as the support for Gibson's "faithful" portrayal had christians organizing bus trips to see it, as others have mentioned.

However, none of that is really pertinent when discussing a star, or a comic book movie about a comic book that has never been published. That controversy was over religion and the portrayal of Christ. I really fail to see much of a comparison to Bombshell.

J-bolt, if you want a controversial star, hire OJ. it won't make your movie better, but it sure will provide hype.

Otherwise, I suggest you follow some of the advice provided. Stop trying to impress anyone with stunt casting, and make a movie with actors that can get lost in the roles. Whoever heard of Hugh Jackman before X-Men? That movie made him a huge star. Cristian Bale, while a successful name, was not the household name that Clooney, Kilmer, and Keaton were, but I think most of us agree he was the best Batman. But I am not a creative professional, so feel free to disregard my advice as the pointless rantings of a wannabe.

[Wingnut]

J,

Hope everything is going well. Keep working hard, and keep working well with those who are trying to help you.

I know this board has dropped off, (beyond those who you call, "bashers"), due to you having to do work on the comics and producing the movie.

Do your best. Do it well. Do it with what is provided to you.

Take care, man.

[Gail Simone]

Let's bash WINGNUT!

Gail

[J-Bolt]

Thank you so very much, Wingnut...
I definitely do my best to work well with those who do intend on helping me.
I've also noticed the board dropping off... could be because those who are not against me don't post as much, leaving it to those who do to fill up space, and those who are against me not spouting their ills towards me the last number of weeks, or whatever the case. I just know that I miss talking with those that I enjoy talking to here.
I've been checking back every week or 2 to see if anything can be continued which wouldn't incite another flaming war. But, alas, we all see that there hasn't, as you profoundly stated. Maybe there will be some worthwhile conversation here again, as we've started this little communication.
Anyway... thank you again for your well wishes and know that I am working hard and am working with people who do have my, my company and the projects' best interests at heart.
J-:cool:

J,

Hope everything is going well. Keep working hard, and keep working well with those who are trying to help you.

I know this board has dropped off, (beyond those who you call, "bashers"), due to you having to do work on the comics and producing the movie.

Do your best. Do it well. Do it with what is provided to you.

Take care, man.

[Lester C.]

J-bolt I'd like to respectfully point out that the reason why the board has dropped off is because we have nothing to talk about. Once your books hit the comic shops then people should be flooding in here to speak with you.

Thank you so very much, Wingnut...
I definitely do my best to work well with those who do intend on helping me.
I've also noticed the board dropping off... could be because those who are not against me don't post as much, leaving it to those who do to fill up space, and those who are against me not spouting their ills towards me the last number of weeks, or whatever the case. I just know that I miss talking with those that I enjoy talking to here.
I've been checking back every week or 2 to see if anything can be continued which wouldn't incite another flaming war. But, alas, we all see that there hasn't, as you profoundly stated. Maybe there will be some worthwhile conversation here again, as we've started this little communication.
Anyway... thank you again for your well wishes and know that I am working hard and am working with people who do have my, my company and the projects' best interests at heart.
J-:cool:

[MacQuarrie]

What he said.

J, if you're looking for conversation, just join in some of the other threads and talk about those topics. Until you have something to show or some news to share, any further chat about what you plan to do is just an invitation for a new round of attacks. You don't need that.

My advice is to let this monster thread die. When you have something new to share about your projects, start a new thread, one unhampered by a couple thousand negative posts.

[Cam63]

Let's bash WINGNUT!

Gail

How do you bash a wingnut ?

[sk716]

How do you bash a wingnut ?

With a hammer, silly.

[Cam63]

With a hammer, silly.

That makes sense.

[howyadoin]

What he said.

J, if you're looking for conversation, just join in some of the other threads and talk about those topics.What? Talk about something other than himself?

[Cam63]

He could, with practice.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

What? Talk about something other than himself?


He could talk about me and my being a CBR Stallion. Or whethor he perfers the boxers or briefs.

[Cam63]

Loin cloths are coming back.

[Dreadstar]

10 months.

[TomStillwell]

The Dreadstar meter is running...

[J-Bolt]

Good point and most definitely noted. Thanks.
J-:cool:

J-bolt I'd like to respectfully point out that the reason why the board has dropped off is because we have nothing to talk about. Once your books hit the comic shops then people should be flooding in here to speak with you.

[J-Bolt]

I couldn't agree more, Mac. You're right.
J-:cool:

What he said.

J, if you're looking for conversation, just join in some of the other threads and talk about those topics. Until you have something to show or some news to share, any further chat about what you plan to do is just an invitation for a new round of attacks. You don't need that.

My advice is to let this monster thread die. When you have something new to share about your projects, start a new thread, one unhampered by a couple thousand negative posts.

[Crowley]

how far along is the book J?
when are you planning to solicit it for?
are you going through Diamond?

Just saying... because I mean Tom Stillwell sent me three Honor Brigade posters and TWO awesome signed books since the last time you posted here...

just saying.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Its been about 20 days since the last post here . So any new " News " J-Bolt ?

[Gail Simone]

We need more J-bolt!

Gail

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Damn it.....I thought he had returned. Where has thou gone thy J-Bolt ? :eek:

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Wow....its been over a month and no J-Bolt yet. I wonder if he's ok. I hope things are going ok and he comes back and updates us.

[TomStillwell]

He'd have to actually be working to update us, yes?

[Dreadstar]

Wow....its been over a month and no J-Bolt yet. I wonder if he's ok. I hope things are going ok and he comes back and updates us.

He fears the fact that I'm counting the days to his put up or shut up deadline.

Speaking of which:

263, and counting...

[SUPERECWFAN1]

He fears the fact that I'm counting the days to his put up or shut up deadline.

Speaking of which:

263, and counting...

LOL you put a deadline on him producing a LBC comic ? This should be fun to watch.

[Jared_Humpherys]

LOL you put a deadline on him producing a LBC comic ? This should be fun to watch.

It always has been. For me, at least.

[Dreadstar]

LOL you put a deadline on him producing a LBC comic ? This should be fun to watch.
No I think it had more to do with his cinematic project, but either way, I'm pretty sure he replied positively to my giving him a year.

[TomStillwell]

I think six years is a pretty good amount of time to create twenty two pages of a comic book.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

I think six years is a pretty good amount of time to create twenty two pages of a comic book.

Maybe J-Bolt's trying an Axl Rose approach. Get fans worked into a frenzy for Chinese Bombshell and watch it explode. ;)

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Now its been another month.With this Olney stuff going down wheres J-Bolt ? I mean its so unlike him to be gone 3+ months.

[Cam63]

I'd like him to post his views in the Olney thread.

[Papergirl]

DAMMIT!

You got my hopes up that J-Bolt had returned! :(

~Bev

[Cam63]

Give Jay time.

He'll return when he's ready.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

I'd like him to post his views in the Olney thread.

He hasn't been on since November 2nd. So thats pretty damn shocking.

[Cam63]

He hasn't been on since November 2nd. So thats pretty damn shocking.

Like the hunter, he be biding his time.

[sk716]

Like the hunter, he be biding his time.

Or maybe he's busy with his comic and movie. Let him be.

[Lester C.]

Now its been another month.With this Olney stuff going down wheres J-Bolt ? I mean its so unlike him to be gone 3+ months.

Dude what are you talking about. I was here a year and a half before he resurfaced.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Dude what are you talking about. I was here a year and a half before he resurfaced.

He usually posted somewhere though eithor on his site or elsewhere though . Maybe he'll return soon I suppose.

[Papergirl]

He usually posted somewhere though eithor on his site or elsewhere though . Maybe he'll return soon I suppose.

He's been gone far longer than this before, Super. With NO word ANYWHERE on the internet.

~Bev

[Crowley]

in comparison to Olney... I downright miss him...

[JsLady]

Since you're all wondering what J-Bolt has been doing, allow me to introduce myself. As you can see from the User ID, I'm J's Lady. We've been seeing each other and we now feel it's time for me to get to know you. I can assure you he spends lots of time working on the posters, merchandise, movie, comic book(s), etc. since I've had to share my time with the tools of the trade so to speak. I'm excited to be a part of his life and look forward to meeting all of you.

Jo (J's Lady) :)

[Matt Doc Martin]

Since you're all wondering what J-Bolt has been doing, allow me to introduce myself. As you can see from the User ID, I'm J's Lady. We've been seeing each other and we now feel it's time for me to get to know you. I can assure you he spends lots of time working on the posters, merchandise, movie, comic book(s), etc. since I've had to share my time with the tools of the trade so to speak. I'm excited to be a part of his life and look forward to meeting all of you.

Jo (J's Lady) :)


You are shitting us.

[JsLady]

I URGENTLY need your assistance with the LBE website. It's down and I need to reach someone (I'm told Shelly can help) as soon as possible to help me fix it.

Thanks all!
Jo (J's Lady) :)

[JsLady]

You are shitting us.

Nope. I'm quite serious.

Jo (J's Lady) :)

[J-Bolt]

Heya, Guys...
Sorry it's been a while since I've posted on here. I've been EXTREMELY busy working on LBE projects.
Jo told me that you guys were missin' me, so I figured I'd come back and say HI... HI!
Plus, the past couple days, Jo and I have been severely goin' nuts tryin' to figure out a problem with the site, for which we BADLY need sk716's help. It has to do with a password she programmed in and didn't let me know what it is. We're changing all the codes, passwords, etc. to be uniform on the site and when we went to change this one, the whole site completely shut down.
We need to get ahold of Shelly BADLY, so please help us get through to her? Tell her that she can e-mail either Jo or me. I've already sent her an e-mail, when this problem happened, but haven't heard back from her yet.
Thanks, Folks... I GREATLY appreciate it.
J-:cool:

[J-Bolt]

And why in the World would this surprise you, Doc?
J-:cool:

You are shitting us.

[J-Bolt]

Can somebody please explain what an "Olney" is??? That has me curious and I DEFINITELY don't have the time to go through another string of posts to find out for myself. How about just givin' me the Reader's Digest version?
Thanks,
J-:cool:

[Matt Doc Martin]

And why in the World would this surprise you, Doc?
J-:cool:

I got the feeling you were a jackass, is all.

[J-Bolt]

Heh! I guess it's true when they talk about breaking down the word "ASSUME." Happy to surprise ya', Doc.
J-:cool:

I got the feeling you were a jackass, is all.

[Matt Doc Martin]

Heh! I guess it's true when they talk about breaking down the word "ASSUME." Happy to surprise ya', Doc.
J-:cool:

You are "assuming" that I assumed the feeling. Now I am certain of the fact.

And I haven't been "surprised".

[Papergirl]

Can somebody please explain what an "Olney" is??? That has me curious and I DEFINITELY don't have the time to go through another string of posts to find out for myself. How about just givin' me the Reader's Digest version?
Thanks,
J-:cool:
Welcome back, JB!

As for Olney... I'll let someone else explain it in a Reader's Digest form. There's too much to it for me to pick just the most important highlights. But, I think you'll find the whole mess interesting. :)

~Bev

[TomStillwell]

Heya, Guys...
Sorry it's been a while since I've posted on here. I've been EXTREMELY busy working on LBE projects.
Jo told me that you guys were missin' me, so I figured I'd come back and say HI... HI!
Plus, the past couple days, Jo and I have been severely goin' nuts tryin' to figure out a problem with the site, for which we BADLY need sk716's help. It has to do with a password she programmed in and didn't let me know what it is. We're changing all the codes, passwords, etc. to be uniform on the site and when we went to change this one, the whole site completely shut down.
We need to get ahold of Shelly BADLY, so please help us get through to her? Tell her that she can e-mail either Jo or me. I've already sent her an e-mail, when this problem happened, but haven't heard back from her yet.
Thanks, Folks... I GREATLY appreciate it.
J-:cool:

Have you tried, I don't know, sending her a Private Message here?

[JsLady]

Doc, it's nice to meet you. An intro would've been nice compared to "You're shittin me". LOL

Jo (J's Lady)

[TomStillwell]

Can somebody please explain what an "Olney" is??? That has me curious and I DEFINITELY don't have the time to go through another string of posts to find out for myself. How about just givin' me the Reader's Digest version?
Thanks,
J-:cool:

He's you only more delusional (yes, it is possible) and with a massive criminal streak.

[JsLady]

Have you tried, I don't know, sending her a Private Message here?
Yes I did that. I thought perhaps she might be in another thread where you could reach her faster.

[J-Bolt]

Sounds like it, Bev...
Thanks,
J-:cool:

Welcome back, JB!

As for Olney... I'll let someone else explain it in a Reader's Digest form. There's too much to it for me to pick just the most important highlights. But, I think you'll find the whole mess interesting. :)

~Bev

[Matt Doc Martin]

He's you only more delusional (yes, it is possible) and with a massive criminal streak.

Spot on. .

[J-Bolt]

DUH! No kidding? I never woulda' thought of that! Oh... waitaminute... yes, I did, doing that first, but figuring that she might not be getting her messages, since she didn't respond to my e-mail from a few days ago, which is why I figured it would be even MORE helpful to publicly post it also!
Gosh... thanks, Tom!
J-:p

Have you tried, I don't know, sending her a Private Message here?

[Papergirl]

Doc, it's nice to meet you. An intro would've been nice compared to "You're shittin me". LOL

Jo (J's Lady)
Welcome to the YABS board, Jo!

As my sig implies, I am the moderator of the Vertigo board and co-moderator of the Image board, both here at CBR. :)


~Bev

[TomStillwell]

DUH! No kidding? I never woulda' thought of that! Oh... waitaminute... yes, I did, doing that first, but figuring that she might not be getting her messages, since she didn't respond to my e-mail from a few days ago, which is why I figured it would be even MORE helpful to publicly post it also!
Gosh... thanks, Tom!
J-:p

Then perhaps there is a reason she's not responding?

[Matt Doc Martin]

Then perhaps there is a reason she's not responding?

He couldn't catch a clue in clue mating season in a field full of clues if he was bathed in clue musk.

[Papergirl]

Sounds like it, Bev...
Thanks,
J-:cool:
You're welcome, J.

Most likely, Shel isn't able to respond right away. Life may have called her away from her computer.

~Bev

[J-Bolt]

Yer' gonna' be another fun one... aren't ya'?
That didn't even take you very long (about 15 minutes) to come up with such a mundane phrase! I'M IMPRESSED!
You and Tom musta' come from the same gene pool that doesn't know how to look for holes in a condom before the alcohol kicks in for the romantic evening, huh?
Nice to meet ya', Doc... leave a message.
J-:cool:

He couldn't catch a clue in clue mating season in a field full of clues if he was bathed in clue musk.

[JsLady]

Thanks Bev! I wouldn't want your job. LOL

Jo (J's Lady)

[J-Bolt]

That's kida' what I figured, PG...
That's why Jo and I figured that it might be an idea to post on here too, since some of the members here talk on the phone and such. I figured that she'd get the message even faster this way, as Jo and I are UBER panicking over this situation of the site being down.
Hugs,
J-:cool:

You're welcome, J.

Most likely, Shel isn't able to respond right away. Life may have called her away from her computer.

~Bev

[Papergirl]

Thanks Bev! I wouldn't want your job. LOL

Jo (J's Lady)
Hee! My boards aren't so tough, really. I have a good bunch of posters who behave themselves. (Okay, okay, so I had to threaten a few of them with a rolled up Sunday NY Times early on, but they ALL behave now!)

~Bev

[Papergirl]

That's kida' what I figured, PG...
That's why Jo and I figured that it might be an idea to post on here too, since some of the members here talk on the phone and such. I figured that she'd get the message even faster this way, as Jo and I are UBER panicking over this situation of the site being down.
Hugs,
J-:cool:
Don't panic, J. She WILL get the message, in one form or another! And, I'm sure she'll be in touch as soon as she can be. :)

*hugs to you too! BOTH of you!*

~Bev

[JsLady]

Hee! My boards aren't so tough, really. I have a good bunch of posters who behave themselves. (Okay, okay, so I had to threaten a few of them with a rolled up Sunday NY Times early on, but they ALL behave now!)

~Bev
I'll let you borrow my 2x4 should the need arise.

Jo

[sk716]

And Jim, seriously, don't come in here and get smart. We've spent the last several weeks dethroning a major asshole.

You broke the site. You're going to have to pay my hourly rate to get it fixed. If you had asked about making some "changes" beforehand, it might be a different story.