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Crowley
08-10-2006, 01:39 AM
wow... much inproved from poast work...
anatomy's still pretty weak... do you actively take life drawing classes?
that will help it...
J-Bolt
08-10-2006, 01:04 PM
LOL... Thanks, Emperor...
Actually, my work has been like this for quite some time. As I've explained to Mac, and everybody else: you're used to seeinf WLS0, which took me over 10 years to put out because it started out as a personal pet project, while I was trying to find my art-style self. I put it away for some years and then brought it back out, finishing it, when I had my style initiated, and knew what I wanted to do with it (hence issue #0).
Those first, poorer quality artwork pages are why I'd really like to just start with #1, for Patrick to edit. That way, nobody will gauge my work by that old work, forgetting that the last pages are a better representation of my current style.
For the record... remember that I used to teach comic book art at the Community College of Southern Nevada. And part of the lessons were in anatomy with drawing, but most of it was me preaching my students about finding their own style and protecting their work. I've always had the ability to draw life-like, but my comic drawing style was still 'under construction' for quite a few years, while I was creating my own signature style.
Thanks for the compliments, EC.
J-;)
wow... much inproved from poast work...
anatomy's still pretty weak... do you actively take life drawing classes?
that will help it...
J-Bolt
08-11-2006, 10:06 PM
There hasn't been apost in about 24 hours. This is unusual.
Wha' happened???
J-:eek:
Yeah, I noticed that too.
Gail Simone
08-12-2006, 08:27 PM
It's summer, people are busy frolicking.
Gail
PatrickG
08-12-2006, 08:51 PM
I've never licked a 'fro!
SUPERECWFAN1
08-12-2006, 08:56 PM
I've never licked a 'fro!
You should try it....the sideburns are tasty.
Gail Simone
08-13-2006, 01:53 AM
Bolt says, "Great blazing bags of crap!"
But it's a different Bolt!
Gail
Cam63
08-13-2006, 07:44 AM
Frolicking requires work.
From what I've heard, it's a tad too hot to frolick in the northern climes.
J-Bolt
08-13-2006, 01:52 PM
Hey, Guys...
Shelly and I have been working hard on the site. I'd love for you to come over and take a look at what we've gotten done so far. She's tutoring me on the new layout and I'm catching on.
I'm going through every, single LBE artwork and uploading them. I'm going to be going through the LBE disks now, to find more. Meanwhile, there's more pics in there, that even you guys haven't seen... like a submission Steve Carr did for a BombShell movie poster. Come check the gallery out so far and see what ya' think.
I successfully put new forum subjects into the new forums, but for some reason, they aren't showing up. As soon as Shelly gets back in town (tonight or tomorrow), I'll be asking about that, so that we can start a chatterbox on there.
Lemme' know what you guys think so far. Shelly has done a GREAT job with this new design and I LOVE IT!!! Let us know what you think of it so far. And be sure to let us know if you have any suggestions to put into it, which we haven't thought of. We could sure use your input and ideas.
Thanks,
J-:cool:
J-Bolt
08-13-2006, 01:53 PM
Which Bolt is that?:confused:
Bolt says, "Great blazing bags of crap!"
But it's a different Bolt!
Gail
J-Bolt
08-13-2006, 02:02 PM
You should try it....the sideburns are tasty.
I could never, ever taste a fro,
To that I sincerely have to say no.
I don't care if it is in the snow,
Or if it was served by the Alice waitress, Flo.
I wouldn't taste it with my toe,
I wouldn't taste it at a show.
If one comes to me fast or slow,
Out the freakin' window I will go.
The thought of tasting a big, fluffy fro,
Really makes my chunks want to blow.
Gail Simone
08-13-2006, 06:45 PM
Which Bolt is that?:confused:
DC's bolt made a brief cameo in the Villains United Crisis Special (to be blunt, he only showed up to get smashed in the head by Solomon GrundY). His appearance was due to his role in Identity Crisis, and had nothing to do with LBE's Bolt at all.
Was just makin' a passing joke, sorry for any confusion. To be honest, I didn't even realize the name similarity at the time I wrote it. DC Bolt's been around a long time and has always been a pretty good nasty villain.
Best,
Gail
Gail Simone
08-13-2006, 06:46 PM
I could never, ever taste a fro,
To that I sincerely have to say no.
I don't care if it is in the snow,
Or if it was served by the Alice waitress, Flo.
I wouldn't taste it with my toe,
I wouldn't taste it at a show.
If one comes to me fast or slow,
Out the freakin' window I will go.
The thought of tasting a big, fluffy fro,
Really makes my chunks want to blow.
But what if the fro was made of lobster?
Gail
J-Bolt
08-13-2006, 06:53 PM
OH! Now, I know who you're talking about. The first time I saw that Bolt was in a 1986 Blue Devil comic book.
That was actually what broke up the work relationship between mark/Steph Heike and me. The claimed to own the rights to a main character named Bolt with their 1984 copyrighted Bolt, but were upset when I proved that I owned a 1981 copyright of a Bolt main character. They told me that either I give up the rights to my Bolt name or they wouldn't work with me. So, I told 'em b'bye.
They said that they even had contact with DC about their Bolt but nothing ensued from it because they said that DC promised never to try and make their Bolt into a main character with the name on a comic book cover.
J-:cool:
DC's bolt made a brief cameo in the Villains United Crisis Special (to be blunt, he only showed up to get smashed in the head by Solomon GrundY). His appearance was due to his role in Identity Crisis, and had nothing to do with LBE's Bolt at all.
Was just makin' a passing joke, sorry for any confusion. To be honest, I didn't even realize the name similarity at the time I wrote it. DC Bolt's been around a long time and has always been a pretty good nasty villain.
Best,
Gail
J-Bolt
08-13-2006, 06:54 PM
I'd be afraid of any lobster with a fro.
But what if the fro was made of lobster?
Gail
Lester C.
08-13-2006, 08:14 PM
Jbolt I think you may want to rethink your prices in the product section of your Webpage. You're charging eighteen bucks for a stamp. A STAMP! For that kind of money you can purchase a lifetime of service from one of the Australians.
Matt Algren
08-13-2006, 08:21 PM
Jbolt I think you may want to rethink your prices in the product section of your Webpage. You're charging eighteen bucks for a stamp. A STAMP! For that kind of money you can purchase a lifetime of service from one of the Australians.
Well, to be fair, it's 20 STAMPS!
Still, though, that's quite a markup.
And where are these $18 Australians you speak of? Mine always cost at least $32.
J-Bolt
08-13-2006, 08:21 PM
LOL. Actually, that price is for a sheet of stamps. The cost is the base price I get charged plus $1 profit for me.
I'm sure you saw that in the description and you're just messing with me.
Thanks for checking it out.
J-:D
Jbolt I think you may want to rethink your prices in the product section of your Webpage. You're charging eighteen bucks for a stamp. A STAMP! For that kind of money you can purchase a lifetime of service from one of the Australians.
Gail Simone
08-13-2006, 08:24 PM
I like those big A STAMP letters.
Gail
SUPERECWFAN1
08-13-2006, 08:47 PM
A STAMP !!!
A STAMP DAMN IT!!
J-Bolt
08-13-2006, 08:50 PM
Somebody went to the William Shatner school of drama, I see.
A STAMP !!!
A STAMP DAMN IT!!
Lester C.
08-13-2006, 09:06 PM
Is this you?
http://imdb.com/name/nm0093335/bio
Gail Simone
08-13-2006, 09:09 PM
Well, I've been looking at the site, and I must say, it looks MUCH better, congrats to SK and J-bolt. It's much more readable and entertaining, I think.
I ALSO have to say that I think your artwork has grown considerably, J.
If the offer is still good to send the script, please send it to gailcbr@yahoo.com, okay?
But things are definitely looking up at the lbe site!
Gail
J-Bolt
08-13-2006, 09:10 PM
Yep. It just looks like it needs some updating badly.
J-
Is this you?
http://imdb.com/name/nm0093335/bio
Gail Simone
08-13-2006, 09:14 PM
Yep, this is more like it...actual stuff to see and enjoy. Definitely a step in the right direction.
I like the first two images in the character art gallery in particular.
Hey, if you don't mind me asking, J, how DID you meet Steve Carr, and why has he seemingly dropped out of the industry? He seems really, really talented!
Gail
J-Bolt
08-13-2006, 09:17 PM
Thank you very much, Gail...
But again, my artwork is the same as it has been for quite a while. You must still be thinking of the artwork in the first part of WLS#0, which doesn't reflect my style, as it has been for the past number of years. That first part was done a LOOOOOOOONG time ago, when I was still perfecting my own style. You just haven't seen more of my work, and keep thinking back to that first part of WLS#0. I'm not being defensive or anything... I'm just saying that my artwork 'grew' to what it is years ago.
I'll get the script to you later on.
Thanks again,
J-
Well, I've been looking at the site, and I must say, it looks MUCH better, congrats to SK and J-bolt. It's much more readable and entertaining, I think.
I ALSO have to say that I think your artwork has grown considerably, J.
If the offer is still good to send the script, please send it to gailcbr@yahoo.com, okay?
But things are definitely looking up at the lbe site!
Gail
Gail Simone
08-13-2006, 09:23 PM
"BASHERS NO MORE!
Sunday, August 13 2006 @ 08:15 PM MST
Contributed by: J-Bolt
Views: 0
On August 2nd, 2006, I received a belated birthday present that I've been asking for during a span of over six years... PEACE.
The members of the 'You'll All Be Sorry' (YABS) and I began to finally sit back and talk civil, when I agreed to an offer they made to include me in a group effort of creating comic pages and make it available at the next Comicon. This most recent development came about in their "J-Bolt News" string of posts. Their notice was caught when I announced on the Internet Movie Database (IMDb) website that I wanted for us all to have a sit down chat, using Yahoo Instant Messenger (YIM), so that any and all pertinent questions can be answered directly from me. This was the start of a long-awaited friendship, which I've worked for all this time. Before this relationship became real, both sides involved of course scrutinized it, but earnest offers on both sides prevailed to remove the doubts from all of us, over a short span.
As everybody who is familiar with the companies and projects of Lightning Bolt Entertainment knows, the YABSers and I have been at 'war' for over six years. Occasionally, I asked them to end this silly war, in attempts to be friends with what would be my greatest critics. This war has consumed the time, efforts, and costs all in many other various ways, of those involved. During the past year or so, I decided to give up on trying to make friends with them and even refused to watch over their posts against me, with exception of the IMDb posts. For this past, awful time, with them, they were given the title of "bashers," along with other titles, as they'd given me several choice names as well.
The war began joined with these members, and others, also on the Warren Ellis forum, but I haven't looked into that one since the YABS forums became my prominent opposition. Hence, I don't know what has transpired on those particular forums, since that time, but what was important to me was to mend the fences with the most involved soldiers of this war. Relief is such a small word that describes what I feel for our long-awaited 'cease fire' and, in the words of the immortal Bullwinkle, "now the healing can begin."
Though I kept my real name concealed, ever since the news of my company first hit the airwaves in 1987, Gail Simone was even able to find legal evidence of it, proving and announcing me to be Jim Fisher, which of course I could not dispute. In 2005, Gail was able to find the ‘Stars of Lightning Bolt Comics’ in my copyright registration information, on the Library of Congress website, revealing this information. It was an announcement that I could not deny.
The two people who were considered as the "ring-leaders" of the "bashers' were always felt to be James MacQuarrie and renowned comic book writer, Gail Simone, though other members did their part in continuing the 'war.' Likewise, it was James MacQuarrie (Mac) who helped me to end this long confrontation, which has most definitely consumed all those involved, in some way or another.
What has transpired as a result this positive move on both sides is that their members and I have worked together on making LBE even better than it ever was. The details of that have so far included: the welcomed invitation to join their plans for Comicon (first asked of me by OzBat!), this beautiful new site design (by sk716), an editing offer for When Lightning Strikes #0 and the Ashcan (by PatrickG), as well, as a new comic book collaboration, for submission to another publisher like Image (with Carlton Donaghe). In such a short time, we've all seen that we're much better friends/associates than enemies.
What first made the current healing of the war possible? After the YABSers got confirmation of LBE information by my former publicist, Judith Moose, they saw that what I've stated just might have truth to it. This was the monumental moment, which I took advantage of to finally cement the new relationship. It was a solid move on both our parts.
Unfortunately, there are still a couple of stragglers, who are not seemingly content with us all working together, instead of against each other, but they will either eventually come to their senses or will be very alone in their quest to keep a needless war continuing. Before, my supporters who joined in defending me were very few, on YABS, as they didn't want to be a target as well. This went on throughout the 6+ year war. Now, those who are still against me are very few and far between, as we all continue to "build some bridges."
In short, we're all working together to create everything anew between us all and working towards a better future. I personally give my thanks for this opportunity and look forward to what the next day brings, vowing to do my part in making sure that this great relationship continues. And nobody has need to suffer the ugliness of a war between us ever again.
Thanks guys! "
Just a small correction again, and this is not a big deal, but I had nothing to do with the copyright legal thingie being uncovered. I frankly am not smart enough to have thought to look.
Not a big deal, and I agree, it's more fun to have you posting here than not.
Best,
Gail
Gail Simone
08-13-2006, 09:30 PM
Thank you very much, Gail...
But again, my artwork is the same as it has been for quite a while. You must still be thinking of the artwork in the first part of WLS#0, which doesn't reflect my style, as it has been for the past number of years. That first part was done a LOOOOOOOONG time ago, when I was still perfecting my own style. You just haven't seen more of my work, and keep thinking back to that first part of WLS#0. I'm not being defensive or anything... I'm just saying that my artwork 'grew' to what it is years ago.
I'll get the script to you later on.
Thanks again,
J-
No, I'm not making any sort of judgment or accusation, I realize the older stuff didn't reflect your current abilities.
No worries, no insult was intended.
Gail
J-Bolt
08-13-2006, 09:55 PM
I was introduced to Steve in the early part of '99, by my nephew, who lived in the same apartment complex, since the year before. Obviously I knew who Steve was, even before my nephew told me, having my own copies of the introduction of the Kyle Rayner Green Lantern. I just didn't know that he was greatly responsible for that character's first costume creation (he especially takes pride in the unique mask design).
Anyway, we immediately hit it off and he wanted to work with me, but his spinal condition doesn't allow him to take the time to do an entire comic book anymore, unless he has several months to do one issue. Therefore, I made him my lead cover artist who does an occasional poster or pin-up. He was renting a room from me for almost a year to work easier on those projects together, along with doing the autograph sessions, of which the pictures you saw.
By the way... I don't know if you remember me telling you, but he thought it was hilarious when you guys asked "who is that corpse next to J-Bolt." His back condition is why he never made personal appearances and the like, because of how he looks, though he does have a good sense of humor about it. I convinced him to do the appearances with me and he was glad he agreed.
The past couple of years, I haven't had any new work for him and he's been taking back up on the reigns with some characters he created partly along with Darryl Banks. He has worked on these characters (I haven't asked his permission to say the details of the character, so I won't take the liberty), for quite a few years before I met him, even having trading cards and such printed of them. In his work on them, he always evolves the look and style of the character.
As soon as I'm ready to go into full print, I'll be calling on him to pick up his drawing utensils again to put that great style to LBE projects again.
Thanks,
J-:cool:
Yep, this is more like it...actual stuff to see and enjoy. Definitely a step in the right direction.
I like the first two images in the character art gallery in particular.
Hey, if you don't mind me asking, J, how DID you meet Steve Carr, and why has he seemingly dropped out of the industry? He seems really, really talented!
Gail
J-Bolt
08-13-2006, 09:58 PM
I'm glad you like my announced tribute to our friendship.
J-;)
"BASHERS NO MORE!
Sunday, August 13 2006 @ 08:15 PM MST
Contributed by: J-Bolt
Views: 0
On August 2nd, 2006, I received a belated birthday present that I've been asking for during a span of over six years... PEACE.
The members of the 'You'll All Be Sorry' (YABS) and I began to finally sit back and talk civil, when I agreed to an offer they made to include me in a group effort of creating comic pages and make it available at the next Comicon. This most recent development came about in their "J-Bolt News" string of posts. Their notice was caught when I announced on the Internet Movie Database (IMDb) website that I wanted for us all to have a sit down chat, using Yahoo Instant Messenger (YIM), so that any and all pertinent questions can be answered directly from me. This was the start of a long-awaited friendship, which I've worked for all this time. Before this relationship became real, both sides involved of course scrutinized it, but earnest offers on both sides prevailed to remove the doubts from all of us, over a short span.
As everybody who is familiar with the companies and projects of Lightning Bolt Entertainment knows, the YABSers and I have been at 'war' for over six years. Occasionally, I asked them to end this silly war, in attempts to be friends with what would be my greatest critics. This war has consumed the time, efforts, and costs all in many other various ways, of those involved. During the past year or so, I decided to give up on trying to make friends with them and even refused to watch over their posts against me, with exception of the IMDb posts. For this past, awful time, with them, they were given the title of "bashers," along with other titles, as they'd given me several choice names as well.
The war began joined with these members, and others, also on the Warren Ellis forum, but I haven't looked into that one since the YABS forums became my prominent opposition. Hence, I don't know what has transpired on those particular forums, since that time, but what was important to me was to mend the fences with the most involved soldiers of this war. Relief is such a small word that describes what I feel for our long-awaited 'cease fire' and, in the words of the immortal Bullwinkle, "now the healing can begin."
Though I kept my real name concealed, ever since the news of my company first hit the airwaves in 1987, Gail Simone was even able to find legal evidence of it, proving and announcing me to be Jim Fisher, which of course I could not dispute. In 2005, Gail was able to find the ‘Stars of Lightning Bolt Comics’ in my copyright registration information, on the Library of Congress website, revealing this information. It was an announcement that I could not deny.
The two people who were considered as the "ring-leaders" of the "bashers' were always felt to be James MacQuarrie and renowned comic book writer, Gail Simone, though other members did their part in continuing the 'war.' Likewise, it was James MacQuarrie (Mac) who helped me to end this long confrontation, which has most definitely consumed all those involved, in some way or another.
What has transpired as a result this positive move on both sides is that their members and I have worked together on making LBE even better than it ever was. The details of that have so far included: the welcomed invitation to join their plans for Comicon (first asked of me by OzBat!), this beautiful new site design (by sk716), an editing offer for When Lightning Strikes #0 and the Ashcan (by PatrickG), as well, as a new comic book collaboration, for submission to another publisher like Image (with Carlton Donaghe). In such a short time, we've all seen that we're much better friends/associates than enemies.
What first made the current healing of the war possible? After the YABSers got confirmation of LBE information by my former publicist, Judith Moose, they saw that what I've stated just might have truth to it. This was the monumental moment, which I took advantage of to finally cement the new relationship. It was a solid move on both our parts.
Unfortunately, there are still a couple of stragglers, who are not seemingly content with us all working together, instead of against each other, but they will either eventually come to their senses or will be very alone in their quest to keep a needless war continuing. Before, my supporters who joined in defending me were very few, on YABS, as they didn't want to be a target as well. This went on throughout the 6+ year war. Now, those who are still against me are very few and far between, as we all continue to "build some bridges."
In short, we're all working together to create everything anew between us all and working towards a better future. I personally give my thanks for this opportunity and look forward to what the next day brings, vowing to do my part in making sure that this great relationship continues. And nobody has need to suffer the ugliness of a war between us ever again.
Thanks guys! "
Just a small correction again, and this is not a big deal, but I had nothing to do with the copyright legal thingie being uncovered. I frankly am not smart enough to have thought to look.
Not a big deal, and I agree, it's more fun to have you posting here than not.
Best,
Gail
J-Bolt
08-13-2006, 10:10 PM
Gail...
I know that there were no insults intended. Please forgive me for seeming to be overly defensive.
Do me a favor... gimme' your YIM so that we can chat again, sometime.
I sent the BombShell script to ya'. Please make sure to keep it to yourself (please gimme' your word here), so that it won't accidentally get out over the Internet by some hacker getting access to it somehow.
Thanks,
J-;)
No, I'm not making any sort of judgment or accusation, I realize the older stuff didn't reflect your current abilities.
No worries, no insult was intended.
Gail
Gail Simone
08-13-2006, 11:24 PM
I was introduced to Steve in the early part of '99, by my nephew, who lived in the same apartment complex, since the year before. Obviously I knew who Steve was, even before my nephew told me, having my own copies of the introduction of the Kyle Rayner Green Lantern. I just didn't know that he was greatly responsible for that character's first costume creation (he especially takes pride in the unique mask design).
Anyway, we immediately hit it off and he wanted to work with me, but his spinal condition doesn't allow him to take the time to do an entire comic book anymore, unless he has several months to do one issue. Therefore, I made him my lead cover artist who does an occasional poster or pin-up. He was renting a room from me for almost a year to work easier on those projects together, along with doing the autograph sessions, of which the pictures you saw.
By the way... I don't know if you remember me telling you, but he thought it was hilarious when you guys asked "who is that corpse next to J-Bolt." His back condition is why he never made personal appearances and the like, because of how he looks, though he does have a good sense of humor about it. I convinced him to do the appearances with me and he was glad he agreed.
The past couple of years, I haven't had any new work for him and he's been taking back up on the reigns with some characters he created partly along with Darryl Banks. He has worked on these characters (I haven't asked his permission to say the details of the character, so I won't take the liberty), for quite a few years before I met him, even having trading cards and such printed of them. In his work on them, he always evolves the look and style of the character.
As soon as I'm ready to go into full print, I'll be calling on him to pick up his drawing utensils again to put that great style to LBE projects again.
Thanks,
J-:cool:
I'm very sorry to hear about his spinal condition. That's an awful thing to hear.
He's very talented, though. If he feels up to (and has the inclination) picking up some work at DC, I'd certainly be glad to let some editors know he's looking.
I wish him the best with his health issues. :(
Gail
MacQuarrie
08-13-2006, 11:50 PM
OH! Now, I know who you're talking about. The first time I saw that Bolt was in a 1986 Blue Devil comic book.
That was actually what broke up the work relationship between mark/Steph Heike and me. The claimed to own the rights to a main character named Bolt with their 1984 copyrighted Bolt, but were upset when I proved that I owned a 1981 copyright of a Bolt main character. They told me that either I give up the rights to my Bolt name or they wouldn't work with me. So, I told 'em b'bye.
They said that they even had contact with DC about their Bolt but nothing ensued from it because they said that DC promised never to try and make their Bolt into a main character with the name on a comic book cover.
J-:cool:
What you have here is a vary common misunderstanding. Most people don't really understand the difference between copyright and trademark, but your dispute with the Heikes is centered right on it.
It is impossible to copyright a name or an idea for a character. Copyright does not protect concepts; it only covers the specific exectution of those concepts. If you wanted to do a comic about a heroe called "Superman", there is nothing in copyright law that would prevent you from doing so, as long as the character didn't resemble any protected drawings.
Character names can be protected by trademark law, but only if they are currently being used and are registered. Even if the Heikes had done hteir Bolt character first, if they didn't register a trademark, it's fair game for you to use the name. On the other hand, if yours was first and you didn't register a trademark, they can still call their character by the same name.
That's why Marvel and DC can both have characters called "Captain Marvel."
As long as their character didn't look like yours or have a similar story, there was no need for a dispute. Legally, you could both use the name as long as nobody had trademarked it.
I was introduced to Steve in the early part of '99, by my nephew, who lived in the same apartment complex, since the year before. Obviously I knew who Steve was, even before my nephew told me, having my own copies of the introduction of the Kyle Rayner Green Lantern. I just didn't know that he was greatly responsible for that character's first costume creation (he especially takes pride in the unique mask design).
I can't remember a more universally disliked design element in a superhero costume that was created in my lifetime. No reflection on his other work, I don't know anything about the man, but I find that particular point of pride to be ridiculous.
I suppose they can't all be winners. Have the LBE characters gone through any redesigns over the years - any old sketches or rejected ideas that you could scan to give us a behind the scenes look at the J-Bolt creative process?
J-Bolt
08-14-2006, 12:13 AM
That would be great. Steve can't do large projects for them anymore, unless they want to give him the several months needed to do so, but I'm sure he'd love to do work with them again.
J-:cool:
I'm very sorry to hear about his spinal condition. That's an awful thing to hear.
He's very talented, though. If he feels up to (and has the inclination) picking up some work at DC, I'd certainly be glad to let some editors know he's looking.
I wish him the best with his health issues. :(
Gail
SUPERECWFAN1
08-14-2006, 12:22 AM
I can't remember a more universally disliked design element in a superhero costume that was created in my lifetime. No reflection on his other work, I don't know anything about the man, but I find that particular point of pride to be ridiculous.
I really don't see the anger towards it. When the right artists did Kyle Rayner and his mask Carr designed it clicked. The character has had worse looks like that fucking male dominatrix look he had as Green Lantern and his new Ion look.
But Carr should be proud of the job he did on the 1st GL Kyle Rayner costume. If only DC would incorporate some elements from it into Ion and I'd be a happy fan.
J-Bolt
08-14-2006, 12:23 AM
Right you are!
What you have here is a vary common misunderstanding. Most people don't really understand the difference between copyright and trademark, but your dispute with the Heikes is centered right on it.
It is impossible to copyright a name or an idea for a character. Copyright does not protect concepts; it only covers the specific exectution of those concepts. If you wanted to do a comic about a heroe called "Superman", there is nothing in copyright law that would prevent you from doing so, as long as the character didn't resemble any protected drawings.
Character names can be protected by trademark law, but only if they are currently being used and are registered. Even if the Heikes had done hteir Bolt character first, if they didn't register a trademark, it's fair game for you to use the name. On the other hand, if yours was first and you didn't register a trademark, they can still call their character by the same name.
That's why Marvel and DC can both have characters called "Captain Marvel."
As long as their character didn't look like yours or have a similar story, there was no need for a dispute. Legally, you could both use the name as long as nobody had trademarked it.
Gail Simone
08-14-2006, 12:30 AM
I really don't see the anger towards it. When the right artists did Kyle Rayner and his mask Carr designed it clicked. The character has had worse looks like that fucking male dominatrix look he had as Green Lantern and his new Ion look.
But Carr should be proud of the job he did on the 1st GL Kyle Rayner costume. If only DC would incorporate some elements from it into Ion and I'd be a happy fan.
I always liked it, but Omar's right, it was almost universally decried when it came out, seemingly.
Gail
J-Bolt
08-14-2006, 12:34 AM
Alex Ross said that he never really liked Kyle's costume either, but I liked the mask and insignia variant, since it was something unlike what we had seen before in a Green Lantern.
Oh yeah, my characters have gone through changes in evolving their look more for the times and such. Most of those changes were very small, but the biggest changes were with the Gargantua Team. Other than that, when I first created Bolt, he was a cartoony character with a rather simple costume, then I made him into a comic book (as opposed to comic strip) character. After that, I made his costume a bit more complex, but still not really enough to thoroughly satisfy me. In '86 is when I came up with the current design, with the only change in that look being the connection of his cape to the rest of his costume.
When I come across some of those old looks, I'll scan 'em and show ya' here... maybe even dedicate one of the graphics albums, on the LBE site, to that comparison. I've been working on an LBE calendar which the characters will have a picture now and a small corner one with how they looked at first creation, on the month pages that they were created. For example, Bolt was created in February 1981, so his would be on February's page, naturally.
J-:cool:
P.S. Is there a way to make LBE character smilies for here and/or the LBE site? I know one part of that question should be for Shelly, but I'm sure she'll come across this post eventually and answer that on her part.
I can't remember a more universally disliked design element in a superhero costume that was created in my lifetime. No reflection on his other work, I don't know anything about the man, but I find that particular point of pride to be ridiculous.
I suppose they can't all be winners. Have the LBE characters gone through any redesigns over the years - any old sketches or rejected ideas that you could scan to give us a behind the scenes look at the J-Bolt creative process?
SUPERECWFAN1
08-14-2006, 12:36 AM
I always liked it, but Omar's right, it was almost universally decried when it came out, seemingly.
Gail
We really have to think back , not only was it the look , it was him being the last Green Lantern though. Because as we saw people hated the character. I've seen some online tell me they hated the Peter Parkeresque treatment done to Green Lantern.
He could have had Hal Jordan's classic GL costume or Guy Gardner's and odds are some would have attacked it. He was a character that ala teen Tony Stark who had heat. Marvel got scared and backed off , DC didn't. :)
SUPERECWFAN1
08-14-2006, 12:39 AM
Alex Ross said that he never really liked Kyle's costume either, but I liked the mask and insignia variant, since it was something unlike what we had seen before in a Green Lantern.
.
See thats why I liked the costume as well. Like it was a totally different thing Green Lantern wise. That Rayner was the changing of the guard and he was the " New " .
Some online have told me artists hated the costume because the mask and detail to it all was a lot.
Oh, I could go on and on like a madman about my hatred for the character, make no mistake - I've done it many times. But even his supporters used to call him ol'Crab Face as I recall.
SUPERECWFAN1
08-14-2006, 12:45 AM
Oh, I could go on and on like a madman about my hatred for the character, make no mistake - I've done it many times. But even his supporters used to call him ol'Crab Face as I recall.
Odds are it was done with affection though. ;)
J-Bolt
08-14-2006, 12:49 AM
My theory on that would be because of what I said before: that is wasn't something we were used to seeing on a Green Lantern. I always did feel that the rest of the costume needed more work, and didn't like his gauntlets as I couldn't see how metallic gauntlets like that would enable him to bend his wrists adequately to effectively fight crime and such. I think that the insignia was great, but it needed much more flash about it... maybe using that green-pearlized white go all the way down, similar to the Eradicator's Superman suit. I think that would've looked sharp.
We can all find things we don't like about new costumes and such, but that's the whole thing: individual taste. If an artist pictures more of what kind of materials the costumes are made of, they could make any costume look better, because them drawing it like those certain materials would make it look good. I'm sure you guys remember me saying the same thing about making comic book costumes into movie costumes... there's always a way to do it without looking stupid (e.g. using spandex).
My perfect example of that was by saying that Wolverine's comic book costume (at the time the first X-Men movie came out) would've looked great if they would've substituted yellow spandex for a rugged, dull, maize-colored suede and the black parts out of the mid-grade leather. It would achieve his ferral (sp?) look while making him appear the way we know him. With Storm, they should've used the same material as they did on the inside of her cape.
That's the first thing I think of when I create a costume for a character: what materials would be used to make the costume and what use would each part have. The computer-painting I did of the movie BombShell costume is precisely what I had in mind for the comic book costume... except that I need to touch up the boots so they look golden instead of like yellow plastic.
J-:cool:
I always liked it, but Omar's right, it was almost universally decried when it came out, seemingly.
Gail
J-Bolt
08-14-2006, 12:53 AM
LOL. That's the thing... ya' just can't please everybody, no matter how hard ya' try.:rolleyes:
Oh, I could go on and on like a madman about my hatred for the character, make no mistake - I've done it many times. But even his supporters used to call him ol'Crab Face as I recall.
Lima Delta
08-14-2006, 12:54 AM
I've always liked you, J-Bolt.
Always.
When I come across some of those old looks, I'll scan 'em and show ya' here... maybe even dedicate one of the graphics albums, on the LBE site, to that comparison. I've been working on an LBE calendar which the characters will have a picture now and a small corner one with how they looked at first creation, on the month pages that they were created. For example, Bolt was created in February 1981, so his would be on February's page, naturally.
J-:cool:
Well there you go, that'd be great. People love that behind the scenes stuff these days. Or maybe they always did but now it's more available. I'd definitely buy that calendar!
J-Bolt
08-14-2006, 12:57 AM
Thank you very much, Lima. I don't think I've ever met ya'... but I like you too.
J-:D
I've always liked you, J-Bolt.
Always.
J-Bolt
08-14-2006, 01:00 AM
Thanks, Omar. I'll get to more sturdy work on finishing that project so that I can get it in the store before the new year.
I know I've always loved seeing the evolution of characters and such. That's why I buy accurate first appearance figures and special edition DVD's, so that I can learn more about what I'm looking at.
J-:cool:
Well there you go, that'd be great. People love that behind the scenes stuff these days. Or maybe they always did but now it's more available. I'd definitely buy that calendar!
Lima Delta
08-14-2006, 01:02 AM
Thank you very much, Lima. I don't think I've ever met ya'... but I like you too.
J-:D
I'm glad you like me! Like I said, I like you. I like you lots!
I like your work more than like should be allowed! HEE HEE.
:)
J-Bolt
08-14-2006, 01:06 AM
LOL. Thanks. I'm hoping you'll join us in that group chat, then... as soon as it gets scheduled, anyway. On the Yahoo Instant Messenger, my handle is J_Bolt_LBE.
J-:o
I'm glad you like me! Like I said, I like you. I like you lots!
I like your work more than like should be allowed! HEE HEE.
:)
J-Bolt
08-14-2006, 01:13 AM
What's ILS and where's PDX, by the way?
I'm still learning some of this stuff, ya' know.
J-:o
Gail Simone
08-14-2006, 05:52 AM
What's ILS and where's PDX, by the way?
I'm still learning some of this stuff, ya' know.
J-:o
Those are both sexually transmitted diseases that she has.
Icky ones.
Gail
Typo Lad
08-14-2006, 06:12 AM
VD: The gift that keeps on giving.
MacQuarrie
08-14-2006, 09:22 AM
What's ILS and where's PDX, by the way?
I'm still learning some of this stuff, ya' know.
J-:o
I'm gonna guess that ILS is "Information and Library Science" and PDX is the FAA abbreviation for Portland International Airport.
But I could be wrong.
EDIT: I probably am. I think ILS has something to do with instrument landings. And Google confirms it; ILS is "Instrument Landing System", so I guess that means Lima has qualified to land planes in low-visibility conditions.
Am I right?
sk716
08-14-2006, 12:05 PM
I moved a couple of the pages last night and I chopped out stuff and edited as I saw fit in an attempt to make the pages a little more professional. I don't really have the time to fully edit and re-write each page as I'm re building them. Does anybody feel up to the task?
Omigod this is still going on.
J-Bolt
08-14-2006, 01:02 PM
So, she has the VD known as PDS and its located in her ILS? WOW! That's gotta' hurt! If an ILS is her airplane runway, there's where the STD description is (think about it... "Hey, Baby... my sesna is coming in for a landing at you ILS <grin>") and the PDS must be the abbreviations of cusswords she said when she found out! OH... MY... GAWD!
I hope she knows that we're just making jokes and not capping on her. I'm sure, since she's followed what's going on, that she knows we're not serious. This is why we're friends.
The difference between friends and enemies: Friends make crude cracks at each other, grinning, waiting for a clever come-back, while enemies make cracks at each other, NOT grinning, and hope the other person doesn't come back.
LOL
J-:D
Those are both sexually transmitted diseases that she has.
Icky ones.
Gail
J-Bolt
08-14-2006, 01:04 PM
"Omigod"? You called me? Sorry... people say I have a mossiah complex... but I forgive them.
Of course this is still going on. Why don't you join us?
J-:rolleyes:
Omigod this is still going on.
J-Bolt
08-14-2006, 01:19 PM
One of the things I always instructed my students on creating character costumes is to make the costumes timeless; not one that resembles the fashions of the current era. For example: in the 1980's mini-series, "Legends," Black Canary had a new costume, which was short-lived. Why? Because it was way too '80's (i.e. the Olivia Newton John head band, hair style, etc.). To give a character a new costume that is "current with the times" is never a good idea because that costume won't last very long, if at all (again, i.e. I didn't see that costume on Black Canary again after that Legends series), but if you create a new character with a look of only the era you created them in, the character will not stick around... it'll only be a fad of that era, if at all. So, if a person wants to create a character, I always tell them to use a fashion sense that will fit whatever time the character is in. Certain looks never go out: leather, high boots (though that look is the artist's preference), the heavy metal look (it's remained the same since it first came out 35+ years ago), long hair that is 1 length, even layered, and stuff like that. To be a good character creator, one must know the fashion trends throughout all the current eras, noting what has stayed around and what will always stay around.
This is one of the things that made Kyle Rayner's GL costume good, besides it being original, was that it was timeless.
When the Flash came out with his new costume (reminiscent of the John Wesly Shipp TV show, I thought it was great, because they made it a dark, metallic look. I've been disappointed that they took that dark, metallic look away from it, though. Whenever I draw him, I like keeping it in, myself, because I thought it was timeless and innovative.
Anyway, I just needed to add that in from last night's conversation.
J-:cool:
stealthwise
08-14-2006, 01:25 PM
One of the things I always instructed my students on creating character costumes is to make the costumes timeless; not one that resembles the fashions of the current era. For example: in the 1980's mini-series, "Legends," Black Canary had a new costume, which was short-lived. Why? Because it was way too '80's (i.e. the Olivia Newton John head band, hair style, etc.). To give a character a new costume that is "current with the times" is never a good idea because that costume won't last very long, if at all (again, i.e. I didn't see that costume on Black Canary again after that Legends series), J-:cool:
She actually wore it for a while, at least in JLI. But yeah, it was a horrid costume.
Kyle Rayner's... ugh. I couldn't understand how an ARTIST could make such a horrible design (by that I mean the character, not Banks, who seemed willing to try something new).
J-Bolt
08-14-2006, 01:34 PM
Yeah... I should correct myself, there, concerning BC.
And Darryl was one half of the creative force behind Kyle's costume. Steve Carr was the other half that put in most of it. Darryl was the artist who was assigned the book, but he and Steve worked together. If I remember correctly, they basically just gave Steve a special thanks in the issue.
Then again, Steve's been no stranger to getting his credit taken from him, as he's created a few characters for different companies. One example is that he was completely ripped off by Malibu Comics, when he created N-M-E for them. He couldn't even stand looking at the toys in Toys R Us of that character without wanting to pick up a semi-automatic and want to go postal on the blatant action of Malibu, not even giving him creator credit for the character.
All that doesn't stop him from creating characters, but he's a helluva lot more careful about doing so now. That's another reason that I've always remained paranoid about protecting every character I create, besides the fact that I've had characters ripped off of me too (which I won't go into, as that would stir up trouble, here).
J-:rolleyes:
She actually wore it for a while, at least in JLI. But yeah, it was a horrid costume.
Kyle Rayner's... ugh. I couldn't understand how an ARTIST could make such a horrible design (by that I mean the character, not Banks, who seemed willing to try something new).
He couldn't even stand looking at the toys in Toys R Us of that character without wanting to pick up a semi-automatic and want to go postal on the blatant action of Malibu, not even giving him creator credit for the character.
Any chance of Steve joining this thread? He sounds like fun.
J-Bolt
08-14-2006, 02:14 PM
Steve doesn't own a computer because he just can't sit at them to operate them... not to mention the fact that he doesn't like 'em. I'm still working on finding an answer to that, though.
Sorry about that... but I'm afraid he won't be able to join us.
Thanks,
J-:cool:
Any chance of Steve joining this thread? He sounds like fun.
Lima Delta
08-14-2006, 04:19 PM
I'm gonna guess that ILS is "Information and Library Science" and PDX is the FAA abbreviation for Portland International Airport.
But I could be wrong.
EDIT: I probably am. I think ILS has something to do with instrument landings. And Google confirms it; ILS is "Instrument Landing System", so I guess that means Lima has qualified to land planes in low-visibility conditions.
Am I right?
You are correct.
The ILS is the most common precision approach used during instrument flight.
J-Bolt
08-14-2006, 05:37 PM
OOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooohhhh...
So that's it means. Good job, Mac! Get this guy on Jeopardy... or rather Who Wants To Be A Millionaire (where you could make much more money with such knowledge).
Hope to hear more back from ya', Lima!
J-:cool:
You are correct.
The ILS is the most common precision approach used during instrument flight.
Gail Simone
08-14-2006, 08:13 PM
You are correct.
The ILS is the most common precision approach used during instrument flight.
She loves to fly them big ol' STDs.
Gail
Lima Delta
08-14-2006, 09:44 PM
Hope to hear more back from ya', Lima!
J-:cool:
I still like you so much, Boltz. (Can I call you that? I LOVE adding z's to things. :) )
She loves to fly them big ol' STDs.
Gail
What's that thing you are again? Oh yeah. You're a skank.
Gail Simone
08-14-2006, 09:49 PM
I still like you so much, Boltz. (Can I call you that? I LOVE adding z's to things. :) )
What's that thing you are again? Oh yeah. You're a skank.
I looked in the dictionary under the word, "ho" and found a picture of you, which I thought was odd, because it was printed before you were born.
You are the prophesied ho!
Gail
Lima Delta
08-14-2006, 09:52 PM
I looked in the dictionary under the word, "ho" and found a picture of you, which I thought was odd, because it was printed before you were born.
You are the prophesied ho!
Gail
Remember that time you and I met that guy and he was like, "Gail, you have dignity to spare," and you were like, "Thanks."
Yeah, neither do I.
Gail Simone
08-14-2006, 09:59 PM
Remember that time you and I met that guy and he was like, "Gail, you have dignity to spare," and you were like, "Thanks."
Yeah, neither do I.
Many scientists are actually skeptical that one woman could contain such a gargantuan amount of skankitude. You're like the Loch Ness Monster of ho's!
Gail
Lima Delta
08-14-2006, 10:07 PM
Many scientists are actually skeptical that one woman could contain such a gargantuan amount of skankitude. You're like the Loch Ness Monster of ho's!
Gail
In aviation, it is common knowledge that the angle between the chord line and the relative wind is known as the "angle of attack." It is also common knowledge that you're a whore.
J-Bolt
08-15-2006, 01:24 AM
heheheh... I'm staying outta' the thing that you and Gail are having fun with, as I'm sure you 2 write these out an go with it.
Of course you can call me Boltz. It's cute.
Just in case you want to e-mail me, do so at lboltentertainment@sbcglobal.net and we'll see about communicatin'. And I already gave you and everybody my YIM chat handle: J_Bolt_LBE.
Thanks,
J-
Now... I'm getting' the hell outta' here before things go flyin'... and I'm not talking airplanes. LOL:D
I still like you so much, Boltz. (Can I call you that? I LOVE adding z's to things. :) )
J-Bolt
08-15-2006, 01:49 AM
By the way, Lima...
When are you going to join the LBE site? Just go to http://www.lightningboltentertainment.com and get yourself registered in.
Just wanted to ask.
J-;)
Lester C.
08-16-2006, 06:59 AM
...misspost.
Lester C.
08-17-2006, 01:43 PM
Have you considered making an avatar page of your characters?
J-Bolt
08-17-2006, 03:23 PM
Sure... Once the character heads are done, they can be used. Meanwhile, if you guys wanna' use the ones I've already put up, go for it.
J-:cool:
Have you considered making an avatar page of your characters?
J-Bolt, what's your speed in terms of how long it takes you to do pages of sequential art? Could you keep on a schedule that produces 22 pages of pencils a month like someone who is doing a monthly book at DC or Marvel (though few of them actually do these days). Have you ever penciled a story that someone else wrote?
Carlton Donaghe
08-17-2006, 10:53 PM
Well, Omar-- not that I'm intending to answer for him, but-- I'm just now about to send J-Bolt another script, though we'll have to bat it back and forth a bit, I'm sure. We've been talking alot about our Image submission idea, so maybe we'll find out. I'm betting that when we get the right script, J-Bolt's gonna hit it out of the park.
Carlton Donaghe
08-17-2006, 10:54 PM
Wait, does that sound right?
I-I don't mean he's literally going to take my script and hit it out...
oh, nevermind.
Gail Simone
08-17-2006, 11:13 PM
What Image pitch?
Gail
Carlton Donaghe
08-18-2006, 10:30 AM
I don't want to reply to this for him, but J-Bolt and I have been batting around ideas for something we can submit to Image. I realize he's got a lot of irons in the fire, but he seems genuinely excited about the idea.
sk716
08-18-2006, 05:46 PM
I've got a chatroom installed on the LBE Site and we need some testers. Everybody get over there throught the night so we can find out how many people it takes to crash the chat.
http://www.lightningboltentertainment.com/staticpages/index.php?page=chat
Night Swordsman
08-18-2006, 10:49 PM
I've got a chatroom installed on the LBE Site and we need some testers. Everybody get over there throught the night so we can find out how many people it takes to crash the chat.
http://www.lightningboltentertainment.com/staticpages/index.php?page=chat
Sitting here in the chat room,all alone =( .
No one wuvs me. :(
TomStillwell
08-18-2006, 11:07 PM
I went in earlier. There was no one else but me.
I'm surprised the legion of J-Bolt fans in Japan haven't crashed it yet.
Locke
08-18-2006, 11:18 PM
Is Omar now going to change his mind about J-Bolt? I mean if Omar takes the unpopular side if a given argument, and now every one agrees with him, isn't it time for him to switch sides?
Well I'm sure as hell not going to start bashing J-Bolt, if that's what you mean. I couldn't be happier with the way things have turned around.
Wingnut
08-19-2006, 02:32 AM
J-
First off, I am the one you've seen as, "ManicNole", on IMDB. I made this handle up as part of a joke that I don't feel like explaining now, but will at some point if you want me too. Also, I don't feel like going through the process of changing my avatar at this point. It was meant as a joke, but now it's sort of meant as a tribute. If you really want me to change it, I will when I can get around to it.
I was following the beginnings of this peace-process, before I went on vacation for a few weeks. I came back, and tried to catch up with it between things I had to do. I haven't read it all, but I think I've read enough to catch the gist of things.
I'm glad you finally have realized that the majority of, "the bashers", were not so much out to get you as upset with your unfounded hype. There is a point of trying to get people to notice your work, and then there is a point of going overboard. When you so tenaciously kept trying to defend the unfounded hype; that is where many had a problem.
I will lay down some truths about me for you. I'm not a comic book fan. I ONLY came here due to you, and the thread. I enjoy comic book movies that I know some backround about, and those that I don't. I do, however, have many friends who own comic shops and make movies. I pretty much haven't commented on this forum other than your thread.
I think you CAN do something. You can probably make a life's work out of it. I still think your business estimates are off, and even pie-in-the-sky.
BUT, as long as you are trying to be honest with people, not only will I refrain from, "bashing", you, but I will try to be positive.
I still have problems with what you said, (not personally, but actor choices, and such), but I will refrain from going into that due to the spirit of peace. I wish you only the BEST of luck. Whether you make the BEST movie in the world, or the worst, I will STILL go to see it, (if shown in SE, Florida), just to see it. I don't buy comics, but as a promise, I WILL buy yours if my friend's shop gets it.
In closing, J-, JUST BE YOURSELF AND TELL IT LIKE IT IS... Do you see how much support you've received here?!?!?!? Hell, it looks like you've really JUST founded your companies by all that are pitching in to do work! Keep being truthful, and you will have a bigger fan base than you ever tried to invent on-line.
Again...I've seen Mac's site, (loved it..beyond his piece on you), seen some of Gail's stuff, and talked to my comic shop friend about her, but if you get your stuff out....it WILL be the 1st comic I have bought since I was about 8.
(I'll also buy a titile that Gail did, since I'd feel guilty!)
Dude...if you do a showing at the Carefree in West Palm Beach, FL, we WILL have a party.
At least be truthful, and not make up hype with those that are trying to help you. .
Peace and Good Luck
ManicNole...Tom
J-Bolt
08-19-2006, 02:57 AM
Of course. On average, I pencil 1 page each day, sometimes les, iff there's less background and such that goes into it. When I pencil for myself to ink, I use a lot less pencils because I know the inks I'll be putting in.
I have penciled others, mostly for use of their own submissions to other companies. If ned be... test me.
J-:cool:
J-Bolt, what's your speed in terms of how long it takes you to do pages of sequential art? Could you keep on a schedule that produces 22 pages of pencils a month like someone who is doing a monthly book at DC or Marvel (though few of them actually do these days). Have you ever penciled a story that someone else wrote?
J-Bolt
08-19-2006, 03:03 AM
All I can say is thanks and I won't comment on ther things either, in the same spirit of peace.
J-:cool:
J-
First off, I am the one you've seen as, "ManicNole", on IMDB. I made this handle up as part of a joke that I don't feel like explaining now, but will at some point if you want me too. Also, I don't feel like going through the process of changing my avatar at this point. It was meant as a joke, but now it's sort of meant as a tribute. If you really want me to change it, I will when I can get around to it.
I was following the beginnings of this peace-process, before I went on vacation for a few weeks. I came back, and tried to catch up with it between things I had to do. I haven't read it all, but I think I've read enough to catch the gist of things.
I'm glad you finally have realized that the majority of, "the bashers", were not so much out to get you as upset with your unfounded hype. There is a point of trying to get people to notice your work, and then there is a point of going overboard. When you so tenaciously kept trying to defend the unfounded hype; that is where many had a problem.
I will lay down some truths about me for you. I'm not a comic book fan. I ONLY came here due to you, and the thread. I enjoy comic book movies that I know some backround about, and those that I don't. I do, however, have many friends who own comic shops and make movies. I pretty much haven't commented on this forum other than your thread.
I think you CAN do something. You can probably make a life's work out of it. I still think your business estimates are off, and even pie-in-the-sky.
BUT, as long as you are trying to be honest with people, not only will I refrain from, "bashing", you, but I will try to be positive.
I still have problems with what you said, (not personally, but actor choices, and such), but I will refrain from going into that due to the spirit of peace. I wish you only the BEST of luck. Whether you make the BEST movie in the world, or the worst, I will STILL go to see it, (if shown in SE, Florida), just to see it. I don't buy comics, but as a promise, I WILL buy yours if my friend's shop gets it.
In closing, J-, JUST BE YOURSELF AND TELL IT LIKE IT IS... Do you see how much support you've received here?!?!?!? Hell, it looks like you've really JUST founded your companies by all that are pitching in to do work! Keep being truthful, and you will have a bigger fan base than you ever tried to invent on-line.
Again...I've seen Mac's site, (loved it..beyond his piece on you), seen some of Gail's stuff, and talked to my comic shop friend about her, but if you get your stuff out....it WILL be the 1st comic I have bought since I was about 8.
(I'll also buy a titile that Gail did, since I'd feel guilty!)
Dude...if you do a showing at the Carefree in West Palm Beach, FL, we WILL have a party.
At least be truthful, and not make up hype with those that are trying to help you. .
Peace and Good Luck
ManicNole...Tom
Wingnut
08-19-2006, 03:46 AM
First PUI.
Wingnut
08-19-2006, 03:47 AM
Gosh DARNIT!!!! It didn't show the smilie face!!!!!!!!!!!!
:-)
Wingnut
08-19-2006, 03:49 AM
Sorry, J-...
PUI
Wingnut
08-19-2006, 03:53 AM
Another PUI..sorry.
MacQuarrie
08-19-2006, 07:09 AM
Is Omar now going to change his mind about J-Bolt? I mean if Omar takes the unpopular side if a given argument, and now every one agrees with him, isn't it time for him to switch sides?
"Everyone agrees with him"? No, not really. There's a whole bunch that I don't agree with J-Bolt on, just as there's a whole bunch I don't agree with Gail on. You don't have to agree with everything somebody says in order to respect them or like them or just be civil to them.
What's happened here is that those of us who chose to antagonize and challenge J-Bolt have decided instead to encourage and support him. Part of that encouragement and support involves telling him the truth. The difference is we will do it in a positive and courteous manner rather than ripping into him.
Just wanted to clarify that.
While we're at it, let's give OMAR his due. If he hadn't taken it upon himself to settle accounts on J-Bolt's behalf, none of this would be possible.
TomStillwell
08-19-2006, 08:04 AM
Keep being truthful, and you will have a bigger fan base than you ever tried to invent on-line.
I think "keep" in that statement is the key word. Personally I'd replace it with "start", as in he
needs to start being truthful.
Part of that encouragement and support involves telling him the truth.
Mac's got that right and it also needs to flow both ways. This new peace and friendship will never be real until that happens. There is deception on J-Bolt's part still hanging out there. Until the truth comes out all this is just play acting. The posters a YABS can't trust J-Bolt because they are never given the truth and J-Bolt doesn't trust people enough to come clean with the actual facts.
Not discussing these things doesn't magically make them fact or somehow acceptable. It sure as heck doesn't make someone trust a person.
True peace is the best thing in the world. However not fighting, flaming, or bashing people isn't true peace. That's just a cease fire. The problems each side had with one another are still there. This should be the period when those issues are worked out. Instead it's being hailed as true peace and that helps no one.
This is the last time I will post negatively in this thread for the sake of the cease fire currently being upheld. However, I knowingly can't support J-Bolt until the truth comes out.
J-Bolt
08-19-2006, 02:55 PM
I HAVE garnished a challenge for all to see and take me up on.... NAY! THREE CHALLENGES, yet not one have I gotten response back to (this kinda' pirate-like talk is pretty cool, ya' know) from any of ye!
First off: I asked for a group chat of... dare I say it... SUPER-CREATING-FRIENDS! Yet, it has not come to pass. All the while, I've been sitting here, in YIM chat, MOONING ALL 'O Y'ALL, AWAITING SUCH A MULTI-CHAT! After all... it is a weekend... and I'm sure a majority of you will be able to partake in this challenge right now, if not ALL 'O YE' BY THE END OF T'NIGHT!!!
ASK ME ANYTHING! If I can answer it, I will <long, maniacal cackle entered hear before I cough profusely from smoking 2 packas a day>; ask me to back up what I say and, if I have such media available, I'll scan it and post it right here! If not, I'll give the link to where you can get it, if I have access to that (since quite a bit of it, I didn't even find out about unt;l LOOOOONG after it appeared)! JUST ASK, ASK!, ASK!!! THE CHALLENGE HAS BEEN THERE, SO TAKE IT!
I'm online, on the Yahoo Instant Messenger, right now, under the handle of J_Bolt_LBE so let's get that group chat going! (I'm not yelling per se, by the way... just trying to win a drama award for my performance, here).
SECONDLY!: Ask me about all the "claims" I've made and I'll back them up with either actual news clippings, if I have them, and/or the dates, places they occurred from!
THIRDLY!: If you want to see that I can do the things I can do (or at least you feel that I've SAID I CAN DO, TEST ME! How about somebody starting a plot/character concept for a... say... 3-4 panel concept story that can be made interesting, everybody settle on it. It can be funny; action, peril, an origin of a character, etc... just something that'll hold for a good 3, maybe 4 panels (tops). Once that plot is created, we vote to see whose plot would be the good one to do it. From that plot, we all now create the 3-4 panel page in thumbnail art and again vote. From there, we all refine those pencils into something legible for the inkers to do their rendition of. After that vote has been cast, we all do our own reditions of inking it; after that, the color artists (or colorists (depending on your style)) takes their parts; then, we finish it with the letterer finishing our short creation for all to see.
HOW'S THAT FOR A CHALLENGE???
IT'S SOMETHING PERFECT FOR OUR WEEKEND(S) AND WOULD TAKE ONLY A FEW MINUTES EACH FOR EACH POSTION OF OUR CHALLEGE TO EACH OTHER: A FRIENDLY GAME TO SHOW THAT WE'RE NOTHING BUT PEERS AND NOT COMPETITIORS! The winning Letterer can create the title and make it stick, after we vote on it. If we like how it comes out, we can continue this as our own little thing to do each/every weekend... from there, we create a webpage to keep our uber-cool online series for all too see and decide what we want to do with it... maybe even start charging everyone else, who doesn't take place in it, to see it, once we give them some short episodes to whet their appetites for what we're doing!
NOW... ARE YOU GUYS GAME TO SEE WHO CAN ACTUALLY DO WHAT??? WE ALL KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO INDIVIDUALLY AND EVEN AS OUR OWN LITTLE CLIQUE'S! SHOW, LET'S MAKE THIS LITTLE SHOW OF POWER INTO SOMETHING MORE... SOMETHING WE CAN PROUDLY DISPLAY, WHICH EVEN HAS OUR OWN PERSONAL/PROFESSIONAL USES!
ONCE WE'VE FILLED OUT ENOUGH PAGES, WE CAN EVEN MAKE A COMIC BOOK WITH NO OVER-HEAD BY PUTTING IT IN A CAFESHOPS COMIC BOOK TO HAVE OUR OWN COPIES!
:evilsmile
I await your answer as I know you're online and waiting... considering if this is a challenge that you might have the walnuts to partake in. THROW IN YOUR WALNUTS AND SHOW WHAT YOU'RE MADE OF!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!:D
J:cool:
I think "keep" in that statement is the key word. Personally I'd replace it with "start", as in he
needs to start being truthful.
Mac's got that right and it also needs to flow both ways. This new peace and friendship will never be real until that happens. There is deception on J-Bolt's part still hanging out there. Until the truth comes out all this is just play acting. The posters a YABS can't trust J-Bolt because they are never given the truth and J-Bolt doesn't trust people enough to come clean with the actual facts.
Not discussing these things doesn't magically make them fact or somehow acceptable. It sure as heck doesn't make someone trust a person.
True peace is the best thing in the world. However not fighting, flaming, or bashing people isn't true peace. That's just a cease fire. The problems each side had with one another are still there. This should be the period when those issues are worked out. Instead it's being hailed as true peace and that helps no one.
This is the last time I will post negatively in this thread for the sake of the cease fire currently being upheld. However, I knowingly can't support J-Bolt until the truth comes out.
PatrickG
08-19-2006, 02:57 PM
Hey, Bolt. I'm just waiting on the WLS stuff so I can take a look at the dialogue and formatting...
sk716
08-19-2006, 03:03 PM
I'm too busy finishing your website to be concerned with any challenges.
J-Bolt
08-19-2006, 06:02 PM
Already uploaded to ya'.
J-
Hey, Bolt. I'm just waiting on the WLS stuff so I can take a look at the dialogue and formatting...
J-Bolt
08-19-2006, 06:09 PM
For the record... I've BEEN telling the truth and haven't stopped doing so. Take it as you wil. You ask me questions and I answer them. If you don't think you'll like the answers, don't ask the questions. Either way, once and for all, I'm BEING truthful. I'm sure that's the last time I'll have to defend myself in that regard or any other.
Apparently, it's time for me to stop posting, answering questions, etc., and get back to business uninterupted, as I thought we were through all this.
J-
I think "keep" in that statement is the key word. Personally I'd replace it with "start", as in he
needs to start being truthful.
Mac's got that right and it also needs to flow both ways. This new peace and friendship will never be real until that happens. There is deception on J-Bolt's part still hanging out there. Until the truth comes out all this is just play acting. The posters a YABS can't trust J-Bolt because they are never given the truth and J-Bolt doesn't trust people enough to come clean with the actual facts.
Not discussing these things doesn't magically make them fact or somehow acceptable. It sure as heck doesn't make someone trust a person.
True peace is the best thing in the world. However not fighting, flaming, or bashing people isn't true peace. That's just a cease fire. The problems each side had with one another are still there. This should be the period when those issues are worked out. Instead it's being hailed as true peace and that helps no one.
This is the last time I will post negatively in this thread for the sake of the cease fire currently being upheld. However, I knowingly can't support J-Bolt until the truth comes out.
TomStillwell
08-19-2006, 10:25 PM
The problem is I think you truthfully believe some of the things you say even though they are factually false. You've been caught in falsehoods before but yet you still are asking us to take all you say at face value without any kind of solid proof.
For example, you've claimed and still claim to have several decent sized companies staffed with many people, including a web design team. Yet it wasn't until a generous YABster offered her services for free that you've finally had a good website. Why is that? Why is it the one employee we know of, Heather Andes, doesn't seem to exist anywhere but on internet forums?
This is just one of the many things that people have called you on and never received a solid answer. It's not a matter of liking the answers you give. It's a matter of believing the answers you give.
I work for a fairly large law firm and part of my job is research. I find facts. I look for the truth. I'm coming up empty with pretty much all you claim.
Carlton Donaghe
08-19-2006, 11:15 PM
I tell you guys what... how about we back off of this for right now?
I just sent J- some script pages and suggested maybe he do some sketches, maybe a page or two of continuity and post them here for everyone to see.
I know that won't answer some of Tom's questions, but maybe it will do for right now to see J-Bolt do some artwork and give everyone a sense of what he's really capable of doing. Maybe it will also change the subject.
I don't want to see things slipping back into claims and counter-claims. I would rather you guys see J- do some great art. Encourage him on that.
Of course, if he doesn't like the pages I sent him, I'll have to scramble to come up with something better. But just hold off until we get something to show you guys here, okay?
Whatta ya say? Do it for me-- a stranger from out of nowhere that none of you know. I think it will pay off in the end.
Red Jack
08-20-2006, 12:18 AM
Y'all folks is crazy.
I love this thread.
Gail Simone
08-20-2006, 12:46 AM
Wait, who's throwing walnuts?
I'm lost.
Gail
Lester C.
08-20-2006, 06:06 AM
Wait, who's throwing walnuts?
I'm lost.
Gail
I am, but somehow they never reach my targets in Arkansas, California and Australia. I'm thinking of lifting weights.
TomStillwell
08-20-2006, 08:47 AM
I won't say anything more here. If you guys are content to let the elephant stay in the room then I guess that's your deal.
I don't doubt that J-Bolt has some talent. But there's more to working in comics than having talent.
Lester, throw me some walnuts here in Chicago.
Lester C.
08-20-2006, 09:03 AM
I won't say anything more here. If you guys are content to let the elephant stay in the room than I guess that's your deal.
I don't doubt that J-Bolt has some talent. But there's more to working in comics than having talent.
Lester, throw me some walnuts here in Chicago.
A much easier target to hit given the fact that I go to school there. I was even considering living downtown, in the univerisity center, untill I realized it was going to be 13,000 dollars a semester to live there.:eek:
Crowley
08-20-2006, 10:29 AM
I HAVE garnished a challenge for all to see and take me up on.... NAY! THREE CHALLENGES, yet not one have I gotten response back to (this kinda' pirate-like talk is pretty cool, ya' know) from any of ye!
First off: I asked for a group chat of... dare I say it... SUPER-CREATING-FRIENDS! Yet, it has not come to pass. All the while, I've been sitting here, in YIM chat, MOONING ALL 'O Y'ALL, AWAITING SUCH A MULTI-CHAT! After all... it is a weekend... and I'm sure a majority of you will be able to partake in this challenge right now, if not ALL 'O YE' BY THE END OF T'NIGHT!!!
ASK ME ANYTHING! If I can answer it, I will <long, maniacal cackle entered hear before I cough profusely from smoking 2 packas a day>; ask me to back up what I say and, if I have such media available, I'll scan it and post it right here! If not, I'll give the link to where you can get it, if I have access to that (since quite a bit of it, I didn't even find out about unt;l LOOOOONG after it appeared)! JUST ASK, ASK!, ASK!!! THE CHALLENGE HAS BEEN THERE, SO TAKE IT!
I'm online, on the Yahoo Instant Messenger, right now, under the handle of J_Bolt_LBE so let's get that group chat going! (I'm not yelling per se, by the way... just trying to win a drama award for my performance, here).
SECONDLY!: Ask me about all the "claims" I've made and I'll back them up with either actual news clippings, if I have them, and/or the dates, places they occurred from!
THIRDLY!: If you want to see that I can do the things I can do (or at least you feel that I've SAID I CAN DO, TEST ME! How about somebody starting a plot/character concept for a... say... 3-4 panel concept story that can be made interesting, everybody settle on it. It can be funny; action, peril, an origin of a character, etc... just something that'll hold for a good 3, maybe 4 panels (tops). Once that plot is created, we vote to see whose plot would be the good one to do it. From that plot, we all now create the 3-4 panel page in thumbnail art and again vote. From there, we all refine those pencils into something legible for the inkers to do their rendition of. After that vote has been cast, we all do our own reditions of inking it; after that, the color artists (or colorists (depending on your style)) takes their parts; then, we finish it with the letterer finishing our short creation for all to see.
HOW'S THAT FOR A CHALLENGE???
IT'S SOMETHING PERFECT FOR OUR WEEKEND(S) AND WOULD TAKE ONLY A FEW MINUTES EACH FOR EACH POSTION OF OUR CHALLEGE TO EACH OTHER: A FRIENDLY GAME TO SHOW THAT WE'RE NOTHING BUT PEERS AND NOT COMPETITIORS! The winning Letterer can create the title and make it stick, after we vote on it. If we like how it comes out, we can continue this as our own little thing to do each/every weekend... from there, we create a webpage to keep our uber-cool online series for all too see and decide what we want to do with it... maybe even start charging everyone else, who doesn't take place in it, to see it, once we give them some short episodes to whet their appetites for what we're doing!
NOW... ARE YOU GUYS GAME TO SEE WHO CAN ACTUALLY DO WHAT??? WE ALL KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO INDIVIDUALLY AND EVEN AS OUR OWN LITTLE CLIQUE'S! SHOW, LET'S MAKE THIS LITTLE SHOW OF POWER INTO SOMETHING MORE... SOMETHING WE CAN PROUDLY DISPLAY, WHICH EVEN HAS OUR OWN PERSONAL/PROFESSIONAL USES!
ONCE WE'VE FILLED OUT ENOUGH PAGES, WE CAN EVEN MAKE A COMIC BOOK WITH NO OVER-HEAD BY PUTTING IT IN A CAFESHOPS COMIC BOOK TO HAVE OUR OWN COPIES!
:evilsmile
I await your answer as I know you're online and waiting... considering if this is a challenge that you might have the walnuts to partake in. THROW IN YOUR WALNUTS AND SHOW WHAT YOU'RE MADE OF!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!:D
J:cool:
you had at one point Gail offering a script... if her offer still stands, I'm a staff letterer, I'll offer to letter the book.
I'll even throw in a painted cover if you get all this stuff lined up.
Gail Simone
08-20-2006, 10:54 AM
you had at one point Gail offering a script... if her offer still stands, I'm a staff letterer, I'll offer to letter the book.
I'll even throw in a painted cover if you get all this stuff lined up.
No offense to anyone and I'm sure J-bolt doesn't need it, but that's no longer possible for a number of reasons, not the least of which is that I'm way over-committed.
Gail
Crowley
08-20-2006, 11:16 AM
ah see... there goes my scam to get chance to catch a gander at your process.
Gail Simone
08-20-2006, 11:33 AM
I've got several scripts up online.
(Throws a walnut).
Gail
Night Swordsman
08-20-2006, 03:41 PM
I've got several scripts up online.
(Throws a walnut).
Gail
She does,one of which is on her blog website.
I check her blog constantly in vain hopes that she might one day UPDATE it...sigh :rolleyes:
http://happystains.blogspot.com/
One Day,Gail?
J-Bolt
08-20-2006, 05:22 PM
Precisely...
Now, I've already taken up Carlton's offer and am waiting for him to send me a package to do some work to show you guys guys... actually, it's for work that necessary for more than that.
I've been spending too much time on here and not getting the right work done for EVERYBODY'S satisfaction. So, just gimme' some time to get these things done and organized s that EVERYBODY is happy. Again, excuse me for not posting more lately, but I have work which needs to be done. The faster I'll be able to get it done will be the faster that Carlton will be able to get those items right back to me.
Thanks,
J-:cool:
I tell you guys what... how about we back off of this for right now?
I just sent J- some script pages and suggested maybe he do some sketches, maybe a page or two of continuity and post them here for everyone to see.
I know that won't answer some of Tom's questions, but maybe it will do for right now to see J-Bolt do some artwork and give everyone a sense of what he's really capable of doing. Maybe it will also change the subject.
I don't want to see things slipping back into claims and counter-claims. I would rather you guys see J- do some great art. Encourage him on that.
Of course, if he doesn't like the pages I sent him, I'll have to scramble to come up with something better. But just hold off until we get something to show you guys here, okay?
Whatta ya say? Do it for me-- a stranger from out of nowhere that none of you know. I think it will pay off in the end.
J-Bolt
08-20-2006, 05:29 PM
THERE'S ONE DOWN!!!:rolleyes:
you had at one point Gail offering a script... if her offer still stands, I'm a staff letterer, I'll offer to letter the book.
I'll even throw in a painted cover if you get all this stuff lined up.
Lester C.
08-20-2006, 05:36 PM
THERE'S ONE DOWN!!!:rolleyes:
J-Bolt can you post below whatever you are quoting? It's giving me a headache when you post this, and then quote what you are posting to.
Red Jack
08-20-2006, 06:16 PM
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http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=8433039
Matt Algren
08-20-2006, 06:22 PM
I won't say anything more here. If you guys are content to let the elephant stay in the room then I guess that's your deal.
I don't doubt that J-Bolt has some talent. But there's more to working in comics than having talent.
Lester, throw me some walnuts here in Chicago.
I find myself agreeing with Tom here. I've been pretty quiet of late, partly because people tend to ignore what I have to say anyway, but partly because I'm just no dang good at ignoring the elephant in the room.
I'm sorry, Jim, but other than the Batmite piece you put up, I just haven't been blown away by your stuff. You've said several times that people are making judgments based on the online ashcan thing and that the ashcan isn't indicative of what you would draw now. Well then, give people (not necessarily us) something that is what you would draw now. Not just pinups, but actual sequential art that effectively tells a story.
You said a few pages back that you average penciling a page a day. But you've never done that. According to you, you could have had twenty-odd issues out just since this thread started. But you didn't. Now you're throwing out a challenge that someone write a story for you to illustrate so people can see what you can really do. No offense, but that's your job. If you want people (again, not necessarily us) to take you seriously, stop talking and start doing. If you do a page a day, then you can have something up on your website next week.
As Tom said a day or so ago, you've claimed to have more than a few employees dedicated to producing your electronic media. But you had a mess with dead links all over it until sk176 offered to do it for free in her spare time. She's doing a darn fine job, but what happened to all those employees? Where is Heather?
Blarg. I know, I know, I'm not helping here. I'll just shut up now.
EDIT: And you kids stay out of my walnut trees! Dang kids...
J-Bolt
08-20-2006, 07:45 PM
I don't remember and I've got work to do. This going back to being challegend is getting to be a headache again.
J-:mad:
J-Bolt can you post below whatever you are quoting? It's giving me a headache when you post this, and then quote what you are posting to.
J-Bolt
08-20-2006, 07:46 PM
Have no idea who th' hell this is & if they want to contact me, they're welcome to do so.
J-
submitted without comment.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=8433039
J-Bolt
08-20-2006, 08:09 PM
People...
I offered to do something fun (this comic book group project), while doing my own work, so that you can see my work while we can have that cameraderie (sp?) without singin' freakin' "cumbaya." Mac knows I'm working, just as Carlton, Patrick, and others.
I was asked how many pages I can do a day, I though just as a general question (not knowing I was being set up for some work ethic quiz on my company work), which I asnwered that I can do 1 page a day, depending on what is entailed (without exactly quoting myself).
You're so right... I'll stop talking and start doing. You won't hear anymore from me here, so that I can get to my work (which, is what I said MANY posts previously, anyway).
Heather stopped doing the webmastering and I'm taking it over, letting the other 3 people go to other departments. And, before somebody asks, no, I'm not going to give an employee roster of who works for me). I never claimed anymore than 2 - 3 dozen worldwide, mostly in an independant contractor capacity, except for those on the film. Shelly did a fantastic job on the new site and now she's teaching me what changes were put into place, between both our busy schedules.
Now... excuse me but I have freakin' work to do and don't find it necessary to start defending myself again, when I thought we were all past that to begin with, which is why I spent so much time on here instead of my work, costing me valuable time, and got my hope up that this was past ALL of us, but I thought "friends" were worth that. I do have friends here. Those who are still in their own doubting mode will just have to watch what comes about next.
The offer to do a group chat wasn't taken up on by anybody here, which would've GREATLY kept all this crap from happening, but alas...
Back to work for me. I'm in the middle of a big project for someone who is giving me the $ needed for the last film money, then, I'll be taking the next 3 - 4 months to get WLS and BombShell issues drawn up for the filming to start and my planned schedule to commence.
If I misspelled anything in here, I'm sorry.
If there's anything urgent that needs me, Mac ONLY has my phone number and can gimme' a call to go over any necessary issues, or to lemme' know if I have to be here.
J-:cool:
I find myself agreeing with Tom here. I've been pretty quiet of late, partly because people tend to ignore what I have to say anyway, but partly because I'm just no dang good at ignoring the elephant in the room.
I'm sorry, Jim, but other than the Batmite piece you put up, I just haven't been blown away by your stuff. You've said several times that people are making judgments based on the online ashcan thing and that the ashcan isn't indicative of what you would draw now. Well then, give people (not necessarily us) something that is what you would draw now. Not just pinups, but actual sequential art that effectively tells a story.
You said a few pages back that you average penciling a page a day. But you've never done that. According to you, you could have had twenty-odd issues out just since this thread started. But you didn't. Now you're throwing out a challenge that someone write a story for you to illustrate so people can see what you can really do. No offense, but that's your job. If you want people (again, not necessarily us) to take you seriously, stop talking and start doing. If you do a page a day, then you can have something up on your website next week.
As Tom said a day or so ago, you've claimed to have more than a few employees dedicated to producing your electronic media. But you had a mess with dead links all over it until sk176 offered to do it for free in her spare time. She's doing a darn fine job, but what happened to all those employees? Where is Heather?
Blarg. I know, I know, I'm not helping here. I'll just shut up now.
EDIT: And you kids stay out of my walnut trees! Dang kids...
Matt Algren
08-20-2006, 08:20 PM
Just for clarity, so no one is confused:I was asked how many pages I can do a day, I though just as a general question (not knowing I was being set up for some work ethic quiz on my company work)...As far as I know, you weren't being 'set up' for anything. The question (from OMAR) was completely separate from my post, and I haven't interacted with him at all. It was not a set up, but an observation on my part.
I do hope to see good things from you, but frankly, there is an awful lot of water going under this bridge.
Lester C.
08-20-2006, 08:26 PM
In the intrest of peace I've removed this post... for now.:cool:
Matt Algren
08-20-2006, 08:30 PM
Mine doesn't make sense now that Lester deleted his. [insert frownyface]
Lester C.
08-20-2006, 08:36 PM
double post
J-Bolt
08-20-2006, 08:45 PM
Right... But Omar's question was turned into 'then why aren't you...?' type of situation. I'm working my ass off on many things, mostly with my company involved and shouldn't have to check in on what I'm doing anymore than anyone else here.
Just let me do my work. If you want me to join in conversation and/or group projects, then let's do so... but the grilling is completely unnecessary.
J-
Just for clarity, so no one is confused:As far as I know, you weren't being 'set up' for anything. The question (from OMAR) was completely separate from my post, and I haven't interacted with him at all. It was not a set up, but an observation on my part.
I do hope to see good things from you, but frankly, there is an awful lot of water going under this bridge.
Crowley
08-20-2006, 08:49 PM
THERE'S ONE DOWN!!!:rolleyes:
Dude, write the book, get an interior artist.
get me a Word file written in sentence case and I'll letter it.
If I have time I'll paint you a cover too.
I'm sure other people will help... just write the book.
Red Jack
08-20-2006, 09:31 PM
Have no idea who th' hell this is & if they want to contact me, they're welcome to do so.
J-
I enjoy cosmic weirdness. No intent behind it.
Carlton Donaghe
08-20-2006, 10:05 PM
As someone who is actually working with the J-Man (that's what I call the dude), I gotta say, he's very open and easy to work with. For at least a week or two now, we've been batting ideas back and forth, talking over the scripts I've been sending him, and basically, we've been having a creative blast.
J-Bolt is actually a very easy-going guy, very friendly, and honestly enthusiastic about doing comics.
We've decided on a concept, we've got a set of characters, and I've already sent him most of the script. I should probably be sending him the final version tomorrow, though I've asked him to talk it over with me one more time before he actually sets pencil to paper. Through all this, he's been very engaged, open, and excited about the project.
I've told him I'll take the lead in communicating with you guys about the project as we go along. I'd rather he stay chained to the drawing board rather than posting here, maybe he can take an occasional break for bread and water, but that should be it.
I've also asked him not to take on any outside projects until he gets the Image project done. I know he's talked to some of you about other stuff, but I'd rather he work solely with me outside of his regular LBE work.
So come on-- just for the fun of it, lay off the guy for the time being (I'm looking at you, Tom). I know people on some message boards like to pick and pick at people just to get satisfaction. I witnessed one poster (on another board) dealing with a John Byrne supporter. He was so aggravated at the fellow who was supporting Byrne that he began digging up all sorts of personal info on the poor guy, including his address, information on whether he was buying or renting, his mother's maiden name and all manner of stuff. It was very uncomfortable to see. Let's not do that. Let's just let the J-Man go off and draw my stuff. Let him do the project in peace. Okay?
[Edited to add the word "or."]
J-Bolt
08-20-2006, 10:36 PM
No problem. That's what I'm working on, amongst other things. Post up here some of your favorite painted covers... eh?
J-
Dude, write the book, get an interior artist.
get me a Word file written in sentence case and I'll letter it.
If I have time I'll paint you a cover too.
I'm sure other people will help... just write the book.
Gail Simone
08-20-2006, 10:40 PM
I don't even get what's so upsetting.
I don't see any reason to 'challenge' anyone at this point. People are basically waiting to see some work, which is a nice state for things to be in. I don't see any real hostility.
But it's up to you, J-bolt, post or not, it's your choice. I look forward to the story you guys come up with.
Gail
Gail Simone
08-20-2006, 10:47 PM
Honestly, not trying to be mean here, but I get worse than this every day and I can't think of a single pro who doesn't. It's just water on a duck's back. Or off. Or something.
Gail
You said a few pages back that you average penciling a page a day. But you've never done that. According to you, you could have had twenty-odd issues out just since this thread started. But you didn't. Now you're throwing out a challenge that someone write a story for you to illustrate so people can see what you can really do. No offense, but that's your job. If you want people (again, not necessarily us) to take you seriously, stop talking and start doing. If you do a page a day, then you can have something up on your website next week.
That doesn't read like a suggestion, it reads like a demand. Who are you to order J-Bolt around?
As Tom said a day or so ago, you've claimed to have more than a few employees dedicated to producing your electronic media. But you had a mess with dead links all over it until sk176 offered to do it for free in her spare time. She's doing a darn fine job, but what happened to all those employees? Where is Heather?
J-Bolt isn't here to answer those kind of intrusive questions and speculations about his operations or personnel. He's here to make friends and get some friendly advice. Not to take orders and not to jump through hoops. If you can't help but be confrontational, could you please just stop posting to or about him at all?
Blarg. I know, I know, I'm not helping here. I'll just shut up now.
That would be great, thanks.
SUPERECWFAN1
08-20-2006, 10:56 PM
So come on-- just for the fun of it, lay off the guy for the time being (I'm looking at you, Tom). I know people on some message boards like to pick and pick at people just to get satisfaction. I witnessed one poster (on another board) dealing with a John Byrne supporter. He was so aggravated at the fellow who was supporting Byrne that he began digging up all sorts of personal info on the poor guy, including his address, information on whether he was buying or renting, his mother's maiden name and all manner of stuff. It was very uncomfortable to see. Let's not do that. Let's just let the J-Man go off and draw my stuff. Let him do the project in peace. Okay?
[Edited to add the word "or."]
Well thats pretty damn errie to see. Even if the guy likes Byrne as a creator. I mean jesus....theres taking someone on , argueing a point or detailing a point that you disagree with and then theres what you posted. And thats pretty much going to far.
Some here will " challenge " J-Bolt on claims and all. But I just wanna say for the record , I have no intent on diggin up his mothers maiden name or whethor he rents or owns his house. Because it really has nothing to do with the " work " he does.
Clement
08-20-2006, 10:57 PM
I find myself agreeing with Tom here. I've been pretty quiet of late, partly because people tend to ignore what I have to say anyway, but partly because I'm just no dang good at ignoring the elephant in the room.
I'm sorry, Jim, but other than the Batmite piece you put up, I just haven't been blown away by your stuff. You've said several times that people are making judgments based on the online ashcan thing and that the ashcan isn't indicative of what you would draw now. Well then, give people (not necessarily us) something that is what you would draw now. Not just pinups, but actual sequential art that effectively tells a story.
You said a few pages back that you average penciling a page a day. But you've never done that. According to you, you could have had twenty-odd issues out just since this thread started. But you didn't. Now you're throwing out a challenge that someone write a story for you to illustrate so people can see what you can really do. No offense, but that's your job. If you want people (again, not necessarily us) to take you seriously, stop talking and start doing. If you do a page a day, then you can have something up on your website next week.
As Tom said a day or so ago, you've claimed to have more than a few employees dedicated to producing your electronic media. But you had a mess with dead links all over it until sk176 offered to do it for free in her spare time. She's doing a darn fine job, but what happened to all those employees? Where is Heather?
Blarg. I know, I know, I'm not helping here. I'll just shut up now.
EDIT: And you kids stay out of my walnut trees! Dang kids...
thank you for saying pretty much exactly what i wanted to say (but in nicer words)
what the hell happened here? did I turn 2 pages at once ? did J-Bolt suddenly put out all those comics he's been talking about for years ? did i miss bombshell's DVD release ?
I think the issues here are time and privacy. If J-Bolt had all the time in the world, and no concern for his own privacy, and that of his business partners and employees, I'm sure he could explain all his answers in sufficient detail to satisfy even the nosiest busybody fault-finders.
But since he does have a shortage of time, and privacy concerns, he can only give general, answers to some questions and this leads to more detailed and insistant questions from the Inquisitors.
Rather than lose out on J-Bolt's participation here entirely, I hope he'll just scan through and answer the questions, or discuss the topics, that he feels comfortable with and has time for, feeling free to ignore the rest of the thread, and that those who don't get their issues addressed will have the decency to stop asking rather than repeatedly chiming in.
J-Bolt
08-20-2006, 11:06 PM
Gail...
It's like many years ago, I used to do telemarketing salesman (yeah... you probably got the annoying phone calls from me too). Well, anyway, I was a good seller who would get my monthly quota within the first 2 weeks, pulling down about $5g's a month + bonus'. So, after that, the bosses started hassling me to do more, FASTER! These assholes would actually sit on my desk, bitching at me to take that sale call I'm on (right then and there) and take it NOW. Naturally, the person at the other end heard this and, besides the fact that my nerves were totally fried, it made my life a living hell, causing me to lose my sales, but growing bleeding ulcers. Hence... I got outta' that freakin' line of work, needless to say, even while the money was good.
Gail... I know that people here have just gotten some tastes of what I do and want more. And I plan on giving them more that even they canb freakin' handle! But, they gotta' lemme' do so, instead of constantly <sitting on my desk> tellin' me to give them drawings NOW! You know what I mean?
There's some really good people here who are being a great help to me (and hopefuly, I'm giving a little help back to some people). I'm just askin' to gimme' some breathin' room to do my art because it what feels good to me: what I was born to do: and you'll SEE results. After all... we're artists... not assembly-line workers. We're all used to working under pressure, but not THIS much pressure, MAN!
You won't be disappointed in what I'm doin' at all, so just gimme' some breathin' room. That's all I ask.
Thanks, Gail.
J-:cool:
Honestly, not trying to be mean here, but I get worse than this every day and I can't think of a single pro who doesn't. It's just water on a duck's back. Or off. Or something.
Gail
Clement
08-20-2006, 11:19 PM
You won't be disappointed in what I'm doin' at all, so just gimme' some breathin' room. That's all I ask.
J-:cool:
dude, You've had 3 or 4 years of breathing room.
Unless the people here who are asking to see something are also emailing you and calling you at home, which is what an editor would do, you're really under no pressure at all. In fact, just don't come back till you're done and you won't feel any pressure.
SUPERECWFAN1
08-20-2006, 11:19 PM
I just wanna say this....J-Bolt odds are you'll never meet some of us. I think ya have to get past the " demands " of us online. I mean your the one ultimately responsible for your work so I will say , were not your ex-bosses at your telemarketing firm sitting on your desk hassling you lol.
Just do what ya can and post when you want. No one here is forcing you not to. Thats just my 2 cents. Do what ya can. ;)
Gail Simone
08-20-2006, 11:27 PM
Gail...
It's like many years ago, I used to do telemarketing salesman (yeah... you probably got the annoying phone calls from me too). Well, anyway, I was a good seller who would get my monthly quota within the first 2 weeks, pulling down about $5g's a month + bonus'. So, after that, the bosses started hassling me to do more, FASTER! These assholes would actually sit on my desk, bitching at me to take that sale call I'm on (right then and there) and take it NOW. Naturally, the person at the other end heard this and, besides the fact that my nerves were totally fried, it made my life a living hell, causing me to lose my sales, but growing bleeding ulcers. Hence... I got outta' that freakin' line of work, needless to say, even while the money was good.
Gail... I know that people here have just gotten some tastes of what I do and want more. And I plan on giving them more that even they canb freakin' handle! But, they gotta' lemme' do so, instead of constantly <sitting on my desk> tellin' me to give them drawings NOW! You know what I mean?
There's some really good people here who are being a great help to me (and hopefuly, I'm giving a little help back to some people). I'm just askin' to gimme' some breathin' room to do my art because it what feels good to me: what I was born to do: and you'll SEE results. After all... we're artists... not assembly-line workers. We're all used to working under pressure, but not THIS much pressure, MAN!
You won't be disappointed in what I'm doin' at all, so just gimme' some breathin' room. That's all I ask.
Thanks, Gail.
J-:cool:
Like I say, it's your choice, nobody can make you do anything one way or the other. I'll be honest, I'm pretty ambivalent about grandiose claims of any kind even from the nicest people, until I see the work, and that has nothing to do with you, J-bolt. It's simply that