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Karl J. Barnes
06-26-2006, 01:32 PM
You know, when someone tells me that they are this or that, I'd like more than their word on it. Just like when someone tells you that they are 'honest','caring',etc...the proof is in the pudding, not in the telling.

MacQuarrie
06-26-2006, 01:34 PM
Your parody of the interview is unfair, because J-Bolt didn't try to steal credit for any of Moore's works. And it hinges on JB Fisher being a fiction, which remains unproven. From what I remember the man's retired, but that doesn't mean he never existed. I'd point you toward the fact that he exposed some crooked business dealing of his own family members, as I recall has been stated more than once. That's the kind of biographical detail I don't think you'd find written about an imaginary person!
He does not exist.

Here's the Clark County Library database (http://search3.webfeat.org/clients/lvccd/lvccldsearch.asp?inttype=a#dbs) which will allow you to search their entire collection. If J.B. Fisher has ever had a byline in any newspaper or magazine in Nevada, it will show up here.

Find him.

He. Does. Not. Exist.

Jim Fisher made him up. The J. B. stands for "J-Bolt."

Once more with feeling: put up or shut up.

OMAR
06-26-2006, 01:35 PM
OMAR: read the wiki link. He didn't "poison" them. He drugged them.

Both bad, but again, there's a difference.

The link you posted did say he poisoned them, actually:

"...involved the non-lethal poisoning of prostitutes with the supposed aphrodisiac spanish fly..."

but you're right that he didn't murder them. I'm left wondering why anyone would feel the need to use "Spanish Fly" on a prostitute of all people.

I don't trust wikipedia anymore, and won't use it as a reference personally, ever since they buckled to pressure and sanitized the entry of a comics creator who complained because too much of the truth was revealed in his entry.

If their entry for De Sade is to be believed, he has blood on his hands for taking a position with the government during the Reign of Terror, but not as directly as I had previously believed, so in that manner I stand corrected. But I've seen the argument advanced elsewhere that someone who knowingly serves in a murderous regime, even if they just sign paperwork and follow orders without killing anyone themselves, is still culpable for what goes on. So maybe he is a mass murderer in a way, but not the way I was thinking of originally.

TomStillwell
06-26-2006, 01:57 PM
I had thought that the subtext to your film was that by spreading his efforts too thin by working up such ancillary characters as Wolff, J-Bolt had put Bombshell in jeopardy of not getting to see her movie made. I didn't like that because of the implications for Draco. Bombshell is great, and I'm sure the movie will be too, but Draco is my personal favorite. When you had J-Bolt "kill" Wolff I was concerned that you were promoting the idea that Wolff and the others must (figuratively) die in order for the movie to be made. That was a big part of the reason I had a negative reaction to it, though it was certainly humorous. J-Bolt did misuse the word sentry in his postings, from what I can tell, and you played on some other humorous aspects of his situation quite well. At least you acknowledged Heather's existence.

Ah, a troll and his trolling. Not soon parted.

That representation of Heather is about as real as she comes.

MacQuarrie
06-26-2006, 02:21 PM
The link you posted did say he poisoned them, actually:

"...involved the non-lethal poisoning of prostitutes with the supposed aphrodisiac spanish fly..."

but you're right that he didn't murder them. I'm left wondering why anyone would feel the need to use "Spanish Fly" on a prostitute of all people.

I don't trust wikipedia anymore, and won't use it as a reference personally, ever since they buckled to pressure and sanitized the entry of a comics creator who complained because too much of the truth was revealed in his entry.

If their entry for De Sade is to be believed, he has blood on his hands for taking a position with the government during the Reign of Terror, but not as directly as I had previously believed, so in that manner I stand corrected. But I've seen the argument advanced elsewhere that someone who knowingly serves in a murderous regime, even if they just sign paperwork and follow orders without killing anyone themselves, is still culpable for what goes on. So maybe he is a mass murderer in a way, but not the way I was thinking of originally.Um, you do understand that Guapo was just making a throw-away joke based on the fact that "Who's Who" is published by Marquis (http://www.marquiswhoswho.com/), right? Please tell me you got that.

I mean, nice tangent, but it really has nothing to do with anything. It was just a pun.

OMAR
06-26-2006, 02:30 PM
No, I didn't get that. You could list internet references all day long that I haven't heard of and don't know how to use - or, more importantly, verify. In fact, it seems like you're going to.

That's why when you link to some site and say "search for yourself, so-and-so isn't there so that means they don't exist" it means nothing to me. I don't know anything about the accuracy of the sites in question, how complete they are, who created them, and what agenda the creators might have had.

MacQuarrie
06-26-2006, 02:57 PM
Ah, a troll and his trolling. Not soon parted.

That representation of Heather is about as real as she comes.
It's spring. The flowers begin to bud, the hills are green again, and the trolls come out to play.

As for Heather, well, let's see...

A quick search through www.Public-records-now.com gives us 23 hits, none in Nevada. Playing the elimination game:

Search Criteria: ANDES, HEATHER

1. ANDES, HEATHER B
Age: 67
Location: LOS ANGELES, CA
Not her. Too old.

2. ANDES-BANCROFT, HEATHER L
Age: 29
Location: MONTVALE, NJ
LOS ANGELES, CA
FORT LEE, NJ
Age might be okay, but she has no history in Nevada and she's apparently married, which J-Bolt told me she is not. Not her.

3. ANDES, HEATHER M
Age: 29
Location: OREM, UT
Probably not her. She has many relatives listed in the same town. Doubtful that she's ever lived elsewhere.

4. ANDES, HEATHER
Age: 69
Location: LOS ANGELES, CA
Based on secondary details, this appears to be a duplicate of #1. Not our girl.

5. ANDES, HEATHER L
Age: 28
Location: WINFIELD, KS
YUKON, OK
SAN DIEGO, CA
MUSTANG, OK
LEMON GROVE, CA
ARKANSAS CITY, KS
Possible.

6. ANDES, HEATHER L
Age: 26
Location: MIDDLE RIVER, MD
BALTIMORE, MD
Possible but unlikely.

7. ANDES, HEATHER L
Age: 26
Location: MIDDLE RIVER, MD
Same person as #6.

8. ANDES, HEATHER MARIE
Age: 30
Location: POWELL, OH
SHERMAN OAKS, CA
WOODLAND HILLS, CA
MOORPARK, CA
ENCINO, CA
AGOURA HILLS, CA
Possible, but I doubt it. All those locations, but no record in Nevada.

9. ANDES, HEATHER M
Age: 22
Location: AKRON, OH
Too young.

10. ANDES, HEATHER D
Age: 32
Location: MCPHERSON, KS
MC PHERSON, KS
GALVA, KS
Possible but unlikely.

11. ANDES, HEATHER M
Location: POWELL, OH
Most likely the same as #8

12. ANDES, HEATHER
Location: INDIANAPOLIS, IN
Possible.

13. ANDES, HEATHER L
Age: 28
Location: ARKANSAS CITY, KS
Possible.

14. ANDES, HEATHER L
Age: 28
Location: ARKANSAS CITY, KS
Associated names:
MUNSON, HEATHER
Same as #14. But look, she's married. Not our Heather.

15. ANDES, HEATHER
Location: DUBLIN, OH
Probably #8 again, based on relatives' names.

16. ANDES, HEATHER
Location: DUBLIN, OH
Ditto.

17. ANDES, HEATHER
Location: FLAGSTAFF, AZ
Possible.

18. ANDES, HEATHER
Location: ARKANSAS CITY, KS
Same as #13.

19. ANDES, HEATHER M
Age: 30
Location: POWELL, OH
Same as #8 again.

20. ANDES, HEATHER M
Age: 30
Location: COLUMBUS, OH
Based on age and possible relatives, probably another iteration of #8.

21. ANDES, HEATHER M
Age: 22
Location: AKRON, OH
#9 again

22. ANDES, HEATHER LEANN
Age: 28
OKLAHOMA CITY, OK
Possible.

23. ANDES, HEATHER M
Age: 29
Location: OREM, UT
#3 again.

So, what does that leave us?

No match, and seven "possible" candidates, none of which are particularly likely. According to what J-Bolt told me on the phone, she was from Las Vegas.

Without a middle initial or age, it's pretty much impossible to prove any of these are Heather, assuming that "Heather Andes" is J-Bolt's alleged employe's real name, which he said it was.

More likely, she does not exist.

MacQuarrie
06-26-2006, 03:06 PM
No, I didn't get that. You could list internet references all day long that I haven't heard of and don't know how to use - or, more importantly, verify. In fact, it seems like you're going to.

That's why when you link to some site and say "search for yourself, so-and-so isn't there so that means they don't exist" it means nothing to me. I don't know anything about the accuracy of the sites in question, how complete they are, who created them, and what agenda the creators might have had.
Are you referring to the Marquis link, or the Clark County Library link, or both?

The Marquis link is the same one J-Bolt posted when he announced his inclusion in Who's Who. I posted it here for informational purposes only.

If you're referring to the library one, don't take my word for it. Go to google, search for Las Vegas library and see what comes up. You obviously have money to burn, so spend half a buck on a phone call. Call the reference librarian at the LV library and ask her to search periodicals for author J. B. Fisher.
Oh. Wait. I forgot. You aren't interested in the truth. the only thing you're searching for is excuses to not look at any facts. Facts are the enemy. All you want are ways to dismiss unpleasant facts that would prevent your foolish verbal jousting.

I've put my facts up. Where are yours? I have the harder task. I'm trying to prove negatives; that J.B. Fisher doesn't exist, that Heather Andes doesn't exist. I'm asking you to do the easy part, find some shred of evidence that either of them exists. I've already done most of the hard work for you.

Come on, make an effort at something other than propaganda. Produce a fact, any fact.

This dancing is mildly entertaining, but it's losing its charm.

Gail Simone
06-26-2006, 03:42 PM
I had learned in a class once that he poisoned a bunch of women. If that's inaccurate than I guess I owe an apology to his family, though I'm sure they have bigger worries than me when it comes to defending that guy's reputation.

Well, he did drug them, and they almost died, but no death equals not a mass murderer, that's all. No biggie. A lot of people think he was a killer.

Oh, and here's an interesting factoid...I quoted him somewhere in the dialogue in Of Like Minds.

Gail

Guapo Méndez
06-26-2006, 04:34 PM
No, I didn't get that. You could list internet references all day long that I haven't heard of and don't know how to use - or, more importantly, verify. In fact, it seems like you're going to.

That's why when you link to some site and say "search for yourself, so-and-so isn't there so that means they don't exist" it means nothing to me. I don't know anything about the accuracy of the sites in question, how complete they are, who created them, and what agenda the creators might have had.

And yet you believe J-Bolt is playing it straight.
My mind boggles.

MacQuarrie
06-26-2006, 05:51 PM
And yet you believe J-Bolt is playing it straight.
My mind boggles.
The only way this game can continue is if we all agree to play with OMAR's stacked deck.

Anything that favors Fisher must be taken at face value with zero verification or evidence.

Anything that contradicts him must be verified and substantiated according to the most rigid legal standards of evidence. Eyewitness testimony is inadmissable. Statements from the people identified as being involved (Adam West, Samantha Fox, Ms Baskow, Ms Moose, Jackson Bostwick, Jason Pearson, etc.) are irrelevant or supsect.

Those are the ground rules. Now, do you want to play or not?

sk716
06-26-2006, 06:01 PM
Dude, it's a J-Bolt thread. We follow the Humpty Dumpty School of linguistics and semantics when J-Bolt is invoked:


God knows we're down the rabbit-hole anyway, we might as well have fun.

I declare this thread to be henceforth devoid of logic, reason or any of the dictates of reality. Let lunacy reign!

Mac, you're my hero.

Guapo Méndez
06-26-2006, 06:42 PM
The only way this game can continue is if we all agree to play with OMAR's stacked deck.

Anything that favors Fisher must be taken at face value with zero verification or evidence.

Anything that contradicts him must be verified and substantiated according to the most rigid legal standards of evidence. Eyewitness testimony is inadmissable. Statements from the people identified as being involved (Adam West, Samantha Fox, Ms Baskow, Ms Moose, Jackson Bostwick, Jason Pearson, etc.) are irrelevant or supsect.

Those are the ground rules. Now, do you want to play or not?

Even the stacked deck is imaginary. But like they say, it's the only game in town.

MacQuarrie
06-26-2006, 06:43 PM
Mac, you're my hero.
No, you're my hero.

You're the one who put in all those hundreds of hours building that fake Clark County Library website, with all those phony databases loaded with hundreds of thousands of carefully-screened files, all so that we could fool OMAR into believing that world-reknowned journalist J.B. Fisher doesn't exist.

And that fake Who's Who site, not to mention hacking into the US Copyright office and planting that fake registration for Jim "J-Bolt" Fisher.

When it comes to faking things on the internet, SK716 is the Wizard.

Guapo Méndez
06-26-2006, 06:49 PM
I bet sk716 has a mainframe to pull off those dastardly deeds.

matterconsumer
06-26-2006, 06:49 PM
Oh, and here's an interesting factoid...I quoted him somewhere in the dialogue in Of Like Minds.
Gail

Thought that was Moliere...

Cam63
06-26-2006, 06:58 PM
I bet sk716 has a mainframe to pull off those dastardly deeds.

...and dozens of ferrets working as underlings.

OzBat!
06-26-2006, 11:00 PM
Well, DUH. It takes a lot of ferrets on treadmills to make those mainframes work, y'know.

Gail Simone
06-26-2006, 11:57 PM
Captain Marvel doesn't lie.

End of story.

Gail

the4thpip
06-27-2006, 02:17 AM
Heather Andes is clearly just an anagram of "A REHASHED TEN".

Justin D.
06-27-2006, 03:47 AM
This is all well and good, but . . . can I have $28 too?

Send it here:

Justin Davis
9500 Jollyville Road Apt. 112
Austin, TX 78759

I have no children, elderly people, or invalids living with me so I'm not liable there. However, I am looking for a job again so anything's good. If you do this, I promise to stop popping into random threads on the YABS board to ask for $28.

TomStillwell
07-02-2006, 07:55 PM
Now we finally know what has become of J.B. Fisher.

http://movies.lionhead.com/movie/93504

sk716
07-02-2006, 09:23 PM
Tom, I think you're my new hero.

SUPERECWFAN1
07-02-2006, 10:51 PM
Now we finally know what has become of J.B. Fisher.

http://movies.lionhead.com/movie/93504



Now that was damn funny. " Old man.... its time to Ride the Lightening ! "

TCJohnson
07-02-2006, 10:52 PM
Captain Marvel doesn't lie.

End of story.

Gail


Well, with Winnick writing him you never know. By the end of the year he will be a drunken basher.

the4thpip
07-03-2006, 01:16 AM
I hope there'll be a DVD collection of the J-Bolt animated clips some day.

TomStillwell
07-03-2006, 07:37 AM
If Warner Bros. and Cartoon Network had control you'd see that DVD some time in 2011.

Weetomuncher
07-03-2006, 08:07 AM
I thought J-Bolt's life story was fully explained in the documentary film 'The Rise & Fall Of The Muppets'.

It was the bit just after they mentioned Kermit's sex change and Miss Piggy's cocaine habit.

the4thpip
07-03-2006, 08:41 AM
I thought J-Bolt's life story was fully explained in the documentary film 'The Rise & Fall Of The Muppets'.

It was the bit just after they mentioned Kermit's sex change and Miss Piggy's cocaine habit.
Didn't that win the Golden Burka at the 1999 Kabul film festival?

founder81
07-05-2006, 06:58 AM
To : TomStillwell

I thought the J-Bolt subject was dead. I was Wrong. Keep the Movies coming.

Your Fan
founder81

TomStillwell
07-05-2006, 07:40 AM
J-Bolt lives on in the hearts and minds of all of us.

Well, not really. I think I heard someone say that in a made for TV movie once.

Weetomuncher
07-05-2006, 07:49 AM
God, I hate those films.

They're always on Channel 5 and Hallmark.

Yuk.

They remind me of J-Bolt, cheap, tacky and in poor taste. :p

the4thpip
07-05-2006, 09:06 AM
God, I hate those films.

They're always on Channel 5 and Hallmark.

Yuk.

They remind me of J-Bolt, cheap, tacky and in poor taste. :p
Hey! Meredith Bexter-Birney needs to pay her rent!

EdContradictory
07-09-2006, 08:42 AM
Did J-Bolt move to Tennessee? (http://www.yourmomsbasement.com/LintTrap/)

TomStillwell
07-09-2006, 09:11 AM
I hope that title does well. Sisqo could use the money.

EdContradictory
07-20-2006, 07:39 AM
Is he back? Is it possible? (http://www.yourmomsbasement.com/LintTrap/#000236)

It's like Superman Returns, it is.

OzBat!
07-20-2006, 08:07 AM
ooooh! And MacQ away and missing that one, too!

TomStillwell
07-20-2006, 08:11 AM
My J-Bolt senses are tingling!

Matt Algren
07-20-2006, 08:32 AM
Posted for posterity, since it'll probably be deleted from comicon.com before long:



IF THIS IS THE REAL JUDY MOOSE, YOU'D BETTER IMMEDIATELY E-MAIL ME THROUGH THIS BOARD OR, SO HELP ME, I WILL EXPOSE WHY YOUR EMPLOYMENT FROM MY COMPANY WAS TERMINATED BY ME, IN 2000!!!
NO MORE LIES AND NO MORE COMMUNICATION WITH THESE BASHER MORONS OR I'LL EXPOSE THE TRUTH WITH DOCUMENTATION POSTED ON THE LIGHTNING BOLT ENTERTAINMENT WEBSITE CONCERNING YOUR DISMISSAL FROM MY COMPANY!!!
IS THIS UNDERSTOOD? I'VE NOT SAID THE GROUNDS OF YOUR DISMISSAL FROM MY COMPANY OUT OF PROFESSIONALISM, BUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING HERE NEGATES MY OWN PROFESSIONALISM CONCERNING YOU!!! WHILE YOU'RE AT IT, ADD THESE CONDITIONS TO MY KEEPING QUIET ABOUT YOUR TRANSGRETIONS: RETRACT YOUR STATEMENTS PUBLICLY ON THIS BOARD, WITH THE UNTRUTHS YOU HAVE WRITTEN ABOUT ME; AND TELL THE TRUTH OF JAKI BASKOW HAVING BEEN MY AGENT (SINCE YOU WERE THERE WHEN I SIGNED THE FREAKIN' CONTRACT, MAKING HER MY AGENT) UNTIL I TERMINATED HER INVOLVEMENT WITH ME/MY COMPANY DUE TO HER WANTING ME TO SELL THE BOMBSHELL MOVIE TO THE STUDIOS WHO WANTED AN ACTRESS TO PLAY THE ROLE THAT I DID NOT WANT!!!
I AM SO SICK AND TIRED OF YOU COWARDS WHO WORKED FOR ME USING THESE BRAINLESS MORONS TO MAKE YOURSELVES LOOK GOOD, AND I'LL BE DAMNED IF I'M GOING TO TAKE IT ANY LONGER!!!
RARELY EVER DO I TYPE POSTS IN CAPITAL LETTERS, BUT THIS IS JUST HOW FURIOUS YOUR LITTLE LYING TIRADE HAS MADE ME!!! I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT YOU'D DO THIS TO ME CONSIDERING THAT I COULD'VE HAD YOUR BUTT PUT IN JAIL FOR WHAT YOU DID TO MY COMPANY... BUT I DIDN'T! YOU'RE SOOOOOOO MAKING ME REGRET THAT NOW, BUT YOU KNOW THERE IS SO MUCH MORE THAT I *WILL* DO, WHICH WILL BE EVEN WORSE!!!
YOU KNOW BETTER THAN ANYONE THAT I DON'T MAKE IDLE THREATS, SO EITHER DO ALL THAT I HAVE SAID HERE OR YOU WILL PAY IN SPADES WITH YOUR REPUTATION, FINANCES, ALONG WITH OTHER THINGS LEGAL, DESTRUCTIVE AND IMMEDIATE!!!
IF THIS ISN'T JUDY, YOU BASHER PIECES-OF-GARBAGE ARE SO DAMNED DESPERATE THAT IT IS *YOU* WHO NEEDS THE SERIOUS PSYCHOLOGICAL HELP AND THIS TOO, SHALL BE EXPOSED! AS IT IS, I'M DOUBTING THE VALIDITY THAT THIS IS THE REAL JUDY MOOSE, SINCE SHE TAKES PRIDE IN PUTTING HER INFORMATION IN HER PROFILES... BUT, THERE'S NONE HERE!
LAY OFF, ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!!!
J-BOLT


quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Originally posted by Judith A. Moose:
I was wandering around on a search engine and ran across this message board. I'm not sure of when all of this drama was taking place but I can assure you that if he was telling anyone to contact Jaki Baskow or me in 2004 that there is definitely something wrong with this picture. Jaki does not represent him nor does she wish to and I dropped him from my client roster in January 2001.

Judith A. Moose
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Just for the record, and since none of you bashers have the civility to post anything other than crude vulgarities, here's a great wish for all of you: I SERIOUSLY hope that you all get jobs as TELLERS AT A FREAKIN' SPERM BANK!!!
Now, I freakin' feel better and will leave you to your endless, mindless, and spineless stupidity!

Thanks, Omar, for your endless support. E-mail me, please.

J-Bolt

Matt Algren
07-20-2006, 08:32 AM
I SERIOUSLY hope that you all get jobs as TELLERS AT A FREAKIN' SPERM BANK!!!
I just have to say, Mr. Fisher has to have been holding onto that little gem for awhile. I'm going to try to work that into conversation somehow.

TomStillwell
07-20-2006, 08:49 AM
I dunno about you guys but when I seriously threaten legal action upon someone I usually do it in a certified letter and not an internet post.

Matt Algren
07-20-2006, 09:01 AM
I dunno about you guys but when I seriously threaten legal action upon someone I usually do it in a certified letter and not an internet post.Oh, Jim's been threatening legal action on message boards for years. It's his thing that he does.

Shouldn't you be working on the final part of the J-Bolt trilogy, set in a sperm bank? You know, the one with Bombshell as the teller. It practically writes itself!

TomStillwell
07-20-2006, 09:41 AM
Oooo...but that will be the fourth part in my unending tribute to J-Bolt.

The next sequel is J-Bolt vs. The Simone Syndicate.

And then J-Bolt: From Spanks to Banks.

Sharpandpointies
07-20-2006, 10:01 AM
RARELY EVER DO I TYPE POSTS IN CAPITAL LETTERS, BUT THIS IS JUST HOW FURIOUS YOUR LITTLE LYING TIRADE HAS MADE ME!!!

For some odd reason, this little gem nearly made me cry laughing.

That's like saying 'I'm so angry I'm going to wave my arms frantically in the air! Right now! See?'

Matt Algren
07-20-2006, 10:04 AM
For some odd reason, this little gem nearly made me cry laughing.

That's like saying 'I'm so angry I'm going to wave my arms frantically in the air! Right now! See?'
That's going right into the sig.

Gail Simone
07-20-2006, 10:20 AM
Hmm.

Actually, the Omar/J-bolt Superman/Clark Kent thing is seeming more plausible all the time.

Gail

Matt Algren
07-20-2006, 10:48 AM
Okay, so on a hunch I checked out Fisher's site. Turns out it's closed for construction (http://lightningboltentertainment.com/), which is cool, cause at least he's trying.

The awesome part is this: "We're giving EVERYBODY access to the exclusive Lightning Bolt Comics MEMBERS STORE, as an appreciation of your patience while we're making this pain-in-the-butt transition. This is a great offer we're giving to even the non-members because you'll save a lot of $$$ on LBC merchandise..."

Hey, I'm even a non-member! And I like to save a lot of $$$! So again, good on Jim.

Then comes the awesomely surreal part. Are you ready? Seriously, sit down. Take a deep breath in...aaaaaaand out. That's it, again, in........don't hyperventilate, be careful.....out.*

There. Now you're ready. J-Bolt has released Bombshell postage stamps. And not just any postage stamps, these a) are real, and b) include text that...well, you have to see it to believe it. Click on the image to see a larger version of the stamp.
http://prodtn.cafepress.com/2/66463682_F_tn.jpg (http://www.cafepress.com/cp/moredetails.aspx?showBleed=false&ProductNo=66463682&pr=F)
I'm torn on whether to get postage stamps or a license plate frame. Maybe both?
http://images.cafepress.com/product/18799806_240x240_F.jpg



*Extra points to whoever gets the ridiculously obscure reference, which has nothing to do with J-Bolt.

Sharpandpointies
07-20-2006, 11:12 AM
That's going right into the sig.

Hey, my first sig! :)

TomStillwell
07-20-2006, 11:31 AM
That first item meets with my stamp of disapproval.

Gail Simone
07-20-2006, 12:14 PM
The whole thing is, Omar just isn't as dumb as people say. He's a smart guy.

So it makes me wonder, except that people I know and trust have met J.Bolt and have nothing but hilarious things to say about him.

Weird.

Gail

Typo Lad
07-20-2006, 12:17 PM
Maybe he's got MPD.

palaeomerus
07-20-2006, 03:45 PM
I don't want Bombshell postage stamps. I was Demon Dawn postage stamps.

Also I'm impressed that JB Fisher can do a gradient on a font. Jeez. The guy might give us a lens flare by next week at this rate.

sk716
07-20-2006, 04:18 PM
Posted for posterity, since it'll probably be deleted from comicon.com before long:



IF THIS IS THE REAL JUDY MOOSE, YOU'D BETTER IMMEDIATELY E-MAIL ME THROUGH THIS BOARD OR, SO HELP ME, I WILL EXPOSE WHY YOUR EMPLOYMENT FROM MY COMPANY WAS TERMINATED BY ME, IN 2000!!!
NO MORE LIES AND NO MORE COMMUNICATION WITH THESE BASHER MORONS OR I'LL EXPOSE THE TRUTH WITH DOCUMENTATION POSTED ON THE LIGHTNING BOLT ENTERTAINMENT WEBSITE CONCERNING YOUR DISMISSAL FROM MY COMPANY!!!
IS THIS UNDERSTOOD? I'VE NOT SAID THE GROUNDS OF YOUR DISMISSAL FROM MY COMPANY OUT OF PROFESSIONALISM, BUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING HERE NEGATES MY OWN PROFESSIONALISM CONCERNING YOU!!! WHILE YOU'RE AT IT, ADD THESE CONDITIONS TO MY KEEPING QUIET ABOUT YOUR TRANSGRETIONS: RETRACT YOUR STATEMENTS PUBLICLY ON THIS BOARD, WITH THE UNTRUTHS YOU HAVE WRITTEN ABOUT ME; AND TELL THE TRUTH OF JAKI BASKOW HAVING BEEN MY AGENT (SINCE YOU WERE THERE WHEN I SIGNED THE FREAKIN' CONTRACT, MAKING HER MY AGENT) UNTIL I TERMINATED HER INVOLVEMENT WITH ME/MY COMPANY DUE TO HER WANTING ME TO SELL THE BOMBSHELL MOVIE TO THE STUDIOS WHO WANTED AN ACTRESS TO PLAY THE ROLE THAT I DID NOT WANT!!!
I AM SO SICK AND TIRED OF YOU COWARDS WHO WORKED FOR ME USING THESE BRAINLESS MORONS TO MAKE YOURSELVES LOOK GOOD, AND I'LL BE DAMNED IF I'M GOING TO TAKE IT ANY LONGER!!!
RARELY EVER DO I TYPE POSTS IN CAPITAL LETTERS, BUT THIS IS JUST HOW FURIOUS YOUR LITTLE LYING TIRADE HAS MADE ME!!! I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT YOU'D DO THIS TO ME CONSIDERING THAT I COULD'VE HAD YOUR BUTT PUT IN JAIL FOR WHAT YOU DID TO MY COMPANY... BUT I DIDN'T! YOU'RE SOOOOOOO MAKING ME REGRET THAT NOW, BUT YOU KNOW THERE IS SO MUCH MORE THAT I *WILL* DO, WHICH WILL BE EVEN WORSE!!!
YOU KNOW BETTER THAN ANYONE THAT I DON'T MAKE IDLE THREATS, SO EITHER DO ALL THAT I HAVE SAID HERE OR YOU WILL PAY IN SPADES WITH YOUR REPUTATION, FINANCES, ALONG WITH OTHER THINGS LEGAL, DESTRUCTIVE AND IMMEDIATE!!!
IF THIS ISN'T JUDY, YOU BASHER PIECES-OF-GARBAGE ARE SO DAMNED DESPERATE THAT IT IS *YOU* WHO NEEDS THE SERIOUS PSYCHOLOGICAL HELP AND THIS TOO, SHALL BE EXPOSED! AS IT IS, I'M DOUBTING THE VALIDITY THAT THIS IS THE REAL JUDY MOOSE, SINCE SHE TAKES PRIDE IN PUTTING HER INFORMATION IN HER PROFILES... BUT, THERE'S NONE HERE!
LAY OFF, ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!!!
J-BOLT


quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Originally posted by Judith A. Moose:
I was wandering around on a search engine and ran across this message board. I'm not sure of when all of this drama was taking place but I can assure you that if he was telling anyone to contact Jaki Baskow or me in 2004 that there is definitely something wrong with this picture. Jaki does not represent him nor does she wish to and I dropped him from my client roster in January 2001.

Judith A. Moose
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Just for the record, and since none of you bashers have the civility to post anything other than crude vulgarities, here's a great wish for all of you: I SERIOUSLY hope that you all get jobs as TELLERS AT A FREAKIN' SPERM BANK!!!
Now, I freakin' feel better and will leave you to your endless, mindless, and spineless stupidity!

Thanks, Omar, for your endless support. E-mail me, please.

J-Bolt

That's can't be J-Bolt. There is only one misspelling and one misuse of grammer. J-Bolt, when infuriated can't even spell employment. And, I'm pretty sure FREAKIN' is not a word he uses with any frequency. And if he did, he wouldn't add the apostrophe in place of the 'g'.

Sabrinaset
07-20-2006, 04:20 PM
I AM SO SICK AND TIRED OF YOU COWARDS WHO WORKED FOR ME USING THESE BRAINLESS MORONS TO MAKE YOURSELVES LOOK GOOD, AND I'LL BE DAMNED IF I'M GOING TO TAKE IT ANY LONGER!!!

YOU KNOW BETTER THAN ANYONE THAT I DON'T MAKE IDLE THREATS, SO EITHER DO ALL THAT I HAVE SAID HERE OR YOU WILL PAY IN SPADES WITH YOUR REPUTATION, FINANCES, ALONG WITH OTHER THINGS LEGAL, DESTRUCTIVE AND IMMEDIATE!!!

YOU BASHER PIECES-OF-GARBAGE ARE SO DAMNED DESPERATE THAT IT IS *YOU* WHO NEEDS THE SERIOUS PSYCHOLOGICAL HELP AND THIS TOO, SHALL BE EXPOSED! LAY OFF, ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!!!

http://howardbeale.net/finch3.jpg

"I'M MAD AS HELL...AND I'M NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANY MORE!!!!"

OzBat!
07-20-2006, 05:14 PM
That's can't be J-Bolt. There is only one misspelling and one misuse of grammer. J-Bolt, when infuriated can't even spell employment. And, I'm pretty sure FREAKIN' is not a word he uses with any frequency. And if he did, he wouldn't add the apostrophe in place of the 'g'.I agree. Now that I've read the whole thing, it looks utterly unlike previous J-Bolt gems in terms of spelling and composition and control.

The spleen-venting and vitriol are good though!

Maybe he's had time to invent and copywrite the worlds' first automated spell-checkur?

Cam63
07-20-2006, 05:27 PM
I dunno about you guys but when I seriously threaten legal action upon someone I usually do it in a certified letter and not an internet post.

That's part of what makes Jimbo so speshall.

Cam63
07-20-2006, 05:29 PM
http://howardbeale.net/finch3.jpg

"I'M MAD AS HELL...AND I'M NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANY MORE!!!!"

I haven't seen that photo of Dad in ages !

*Wipes tear from eye*

Cam63
07-20-2006, 05:36 PM
The whole thing is, Omar just isn't as dumb as people say. He's a smart guy.

So it makes me wonder, except that people I know and trust have met J.Bolt and have nothing but hilarious things to say about him.

Weird.

Gail

He reminds me of the dorky villians from the early '70s Super Friends show.

Y'know, the type that spends millions of dollars on plans and equipment to rob a bank of ten thousand dollars.

...and they get tripped up by Marvin and Wendy.

Noah Johnson
07-20-2006, 06:56 PM
He reminds me of the dorky villians from the early '70s Super Friends show.

Y'know, the type that spends millions of dollars on plans and equipment to rob a bank of ten thousand dollars.

...and they get tripped up by Marvin and Wendy.
That is the best metaphor I've seen all day.

sk716
07-20-2006, 08:55 PM
Man, it's weird, I was just over at the LBC site and Googling for pages, he's taken almost all of the pages down.

I wonder if he took down the images, too...

Edit: Yup, he must have just gone in and deleted all of the directories. The Ashcan is gone, the coloring pages are gone, and the worst part... BombShell with Commentary is gone.

*cries*

Cam63
07-20-2006, 10:14 PM
There, there, my lebian friend...

Crowley
07-21-2006, 12:10 AM
Yeah honestly this J-bolt tirade somehow doesn't sound like him.

it smells of bad comedy.

Magneto_X
07-21-2006, 01:28 AM
Maybe he's got MPD.

He doesn't have a mental disorder (that was can confirm) J-Bolt just likes to use false aliases to make himself look like he has employees and also people to worship him on message boards---exspecially his own.

SUPERECWFAN1
07-21-2006, 05:19 PM
I wonder if that Catherine Ingham is for real ? Its over at comicon.

EdContradictory
07-21-2006, 06:07 PM
BombShell with Commentary is gone.

*cries*
I saved it. :)

TomStillwell
07-21-2006, 06:51 PM
I e-mailed the real Judith A. Moose directly to get the straight poop on all this stuff. Awaiting a reply if any.

SUPERECWFAN1
07-21-2006, 09:21 PM
I really sometimes wonder....how can this guy get this much attention. Its like the moment he says or does something INSTANT COVERAGE. He should really thank Gail and the others. Without really everyone , he would have faded into obscurity years ago.

Cam63
07-21-2006, 09:26 PM
But, Super...

He's speshall... Very speshall...

Cam63
07-21-2006, 09:27 PM
I e-mailed the real Judith A. Moose directly to get the straight poop on all this stuff. Awaiting a reply if any.

We await her reply with baited breath.

I hope she's not scarred.

sk716
07-21-2006, 09:40 PM
I saved it. :)

You da MAN, Ed!

Magneto_X
07-21-2006, 09:54 PM
I really sometimes wonder....how can this guy get this much attention. Its like the moment he says or does something INSTANT COVERAGE. He should really thank Gail and the others. Without really everyone , he would have faded into obscurity years ago.

It's like looking at a trainwreck. J-Bolt is said trainwreck. Only he provides hours of entertainment.

TomStillwell
07-21-2006, 10:49 PM
I really sometimes wonder....how can this guy get this much attention. Its like the moment he says or does something INSTANT COVERAGE. He should really thank Gail and the others. Without really everyone , he would have faded into obscurity years ago.

The sad thing is that if he actually produced a buyable comic it would sell better than anything any other YABer aside from Gail could put out.

We have more support for the trainwrecks than the true hard working joes.

TomStillwell
07-21-2006, 11:12 PM
Here is Judith A. Moose's response to my e-mail.

Hello Tom,

Thank you for your message. I had received one yesterday from another member of
your board pointing out the same item. Up until that point, I had no idea of my
supposedly posting on the forum and you may post this message as a reply if you
wish. An intern that I had in my office through the end of June had mentioned something
about seeing my name connected with a forum concerning J-Bolt stating that Jaki
Baskow and I are involved in his projects. Not having seen the forum or any of
its content, I commented to my intern that we both did work with him but that Jaki
didn't currently represent him and that I hadn't worked with him since around
the end of 2000 or beginning of 2001. I had no idea that he would take it upon
himself to impersonate me, much less create chaos in the process. As each day passes,
I'm becoming more pleased that I let him go last month as I have discovered
that this is not the first item he's lent my name to.

Catherine Ingham is indeed my assistant and while that's not exactly the message
I had dictated to her over the telephone yesterday, it's close enough to what
I wanted to convey. I personally have no problem with J-Bolt at all. As far as
I'm concerned, he's a talented artist who is simply trying to find his way
in an industry that he loves. We socialized quite often throughout the time we
worked together and I considered him to be a friend.

For the sake of knowledge, other than yesterday's message from Catherine, I
will not be posting on the forum as my business dealings with J-Bolt were over several
years ago. I wish him well with his current and future endeavors but honestly have
nothing to discuss. Any type of future discussion that I would possibly have with
him would be either over a telephone or face-to-face. I have two companies to run
on a daily basis and taking part in a smear campaign isn't something that I
would do. One of my companies is an Entertainment PR firm, at which my staff and
I protect people's reputations, not try to destroy them.

Once again, thank you for your message. I appreciate you bringing this issue to
my attention.

With all good wishes,
Judith A. Moose, President
JM Media Group / Signing Stars Publishing

Now here's an interesting tidbit. In my e-mail I referred to J-Bolt as Jim Fisher almost exclusively and only once as J-Bolt. Even then I referred to him as someone who also goes by the name J-Bolt.

She never corrected me and she herself called the man I named as Jim Fisher J-Bolt.

Crowley
07-21-2006, 11:25 PM
okay my bullshit detector is going crazy.


An intern decides to impersonate his boss online?
J-bolt is a talented artist?

yeah something smells here...

Cam63
07-21-2006, 11:40 PM
Fishier than a tuna trawler.

TomStillwell
07-22-2006, 08:15 AM
Here's the site that I got Judith Moose's contact information from. It looks legit.

[/URL]

Here's a copy of her reply e-mail to me, including my original e-mail to her.

From: Judith Moose <judithmoose@jmmediagroup.com> [Add to Address Book] Flag Message | Mark Unread
[This is spam]
To: Tom Stillwell <zapow@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Possible ID theft
Date: Jul 21, 2006 8:22 PM
Hello Tom,

Thank you for your message. I had received one yesterday from another member of
your board pointing out the same item. Up until that point, I had no idea of my
supposedly posting on the forum and you may post this message as a reply if you
wish. An intern that I had in my office through the end of June had mentioned something
about seeing my name connected with a forum concerning J-Bolt stating that Jaki
Baskow and I are involved in his projects. Not having seen the forum or any of
its content, I commented to my intern that we both did work with him but that Jaki
didn't currently represent him and that I hadn't worked with him since around
the end of 2000 or beginning of 2001. I had no idea that he would take it upon
himself to impersonate me, much less create chaos in the process. As each day passes,
I'm becoming more pleased that I let him go last month as I have discovered
that this is not the first item he's lent my name to.

Catherine Ingham is indeed my assistant and while that's not exactly the message
I had dictated to her over the telephone yesterday, it's close enough to what
I wanted to convey. I personally have no problem with J-Bolt at all. As far as
I'm concerned, he's a talented artist who is simply trying to find his way
in an industry that he loves. We socialized quite often throughout the time we
worked together and I considered him to be a friend.

For the sake of knowledge, other than yesterday's message from Catherine, I
will not be posting on the forum as my business dealings with J-Bolt were over several
years ago. I wish him well with his current and future endeavors but honestly have
nothing to discuss. Any type of future discussion that I would possibly have with
him would be either over a telephone or face-to-face. I have two companies to run
on a daily basis and taking part in a smear campaign isn't something that I
would do. One of my companies is an Entertainment PR firm, at which my staff and
I protect people's reputations, not try to destroy them.

Once again, thank you for your message. I appreciate you bringing this issue to
my attention.

With all good wishes,
Judith A. Moose, President
JM Media Group / Signing Stars Publishing

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Tom Stillwell <zapow@earthlink.net>
Reply-To: Tom Stillwell <zapow@earthlink.net>
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 18:41:38 -0500 (GMT-05:00)

>Miss Moose, you don't know me but I have reason to believe someone has been
using your name and/or posing as a member of your staff on the internet.
>
>A while back there was a person by the name of Jim Fisher claiming he was being
represented by your office on several different message boards. On one of these
message boards someone claiming to be Judith A. Moose refuted his claims and to
many people we took that as legit.
>
>Here's the actual post:
>
>Judith A. Moose
>Junior member
>Member # 18458
>
> posted 06-11-2006 01:36 PM
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>"Yes, and I know Mac, and I know how he asked, politely. You're missing
rather a crucial element, that J-Bolt constantly TELLS people to contact these people
involved with him. He TOLD us to contact a comics shop in Las Vegas, Judith Moose,
and Jaki Barstow, among several others. On top of that, many people who know him
emailed ME out of the blue."
>
>I was wandering around on a search engine and ran across this message board.
I'm not sure of when all of this drama was taking place but I can assure you
that if he was telling anyone to contact Jaki Baskow or me in 2004 that there is
definitely something wrong with this picture. Jaki does not represent him nor does
she wish to and I dropped him from my client roster in January 2001.
>
>Judith A. Moose
>
>Yesterday someone claiming to be your assistant contradicted the above post.
>
>Catherine
>Junior member
>Member # 18611
>
> posted 07-20-2006 03:02 PM
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Good afternoon.
>
>I'm Judith Moose's assistant and she has asked me to respond to J-Bolt's
post and offer an apology for the actions of one of her employees. She didn't
know anything about this board until someone sent her a message this morning regarding
your posts. One of our former interns had said something about seeing her name on
a forum last month connected with this topic. When asked about it, Judith said that
Jaki Baskow had been given a script for "Bombshell" but that Jaki wasn't
currently representing him and that he hadn't been a client of hers since around
2001 and that was all. We were unaware that he had posted anything regarding this
information.
>
>Judith has asked me to let you know that she has absolutely nothing against
J-Bolt and in fact, considered him a friend throughout their working relationship.
She wishes him nothing but the best in all of his projects and hopes that he and
his loved ones are well and happy.
>
>To those of you on this board as well as J-Bolt himself, please accept our apologies
on behalf of our intern. This and other items are serving as reminders of why this
intern is no longer with us.
>
>Best wishes,
>Catherine Ingham
>
>To many the above post seems manufactured. Jim Fisher, more commonly known as
J-Bolt, is not above passing himself off as other people in order to seem valid.
>
>The following posts can be found at this address.
>
>[url]http://www.comicon.com/panels/ (http://www.jmmediagroup.com/about_us.htm)
>
>
>It's under
>
>General Discussions » News, Announcements and Gossip » GOSSIP: Are Omar and
J-Bolt the same person?!
>
>
>I just wanted to give you a heads up on the situation. My wife had her ID stolen
years ago and it caused a number of problems. You've worked hard to make a name
for yourself. No one else should be using it.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Tom Stillwell

If it's bullshit than it's coming from her end. I don't have any reason to make stuff up about J-Bolt. He does enough of that himself.

Personally I think it's on the up and up.

Miss Moose is in the PR business. She's not about to break bad on a former client even if he's a scumbag loser like J-Bolt. One, that opens her up to legal action by said former client. Two, it's not a big draw for future clients if she talks trash about them once out of their employment.

Magneto_X
07-22-2006, 03:49 PM
The sad thing is that if he actually produced a buyable comic it would sell better than anything any other YABer aside from Gail could put out.

We have more support for the trainwrecks than the true hard working joes.

This is true.

He's YABS version of Liefeld, I guess. Only Liefeld actually has his stuff published.

Controvercy sells.

He really should go into marketing instead. That's where his real genius is.

SUPERECWFAN1
07-22-2006, 03:59 PM
Ok I can see Moose's point on this. She really can't discuss his business practices beyond what she said and no matter how bad J-Bolt's trying to provoke it. So she's being smart about it. Good luck Mrs.Moose ...and thanks for the answers.

Magneto_X
07-22-2006, 04:14 PM
okay my bullshit detector is going crazy.


An intern decides to impersonate his boss online?

It's J-Bolt. It wouldn't be out of character for him to impersonate a former employer that fired him, IMO. He's certainly used alisases online before.

J-bolt is a talented artist?

yeah something smells here...

My guess is that she wanted to be polite and professional. It's probaly a protocol to alwasy say every ex-employee, even ones as nutty as Fisher, are "talented". A little lie so no more bad blood gets spilled.

Crowley
07-23-2006, 02:07 PM
http://www.jmmediagroup.com/index.htm

okay found her website...

I don't doubt any of you... it's just that J-bolt's last post seemed uncharacteristically lucid.

OzBat!
07-23-2006, 06:24 PM
Maybe he's found better meds?

OMAR
07-23-2006, 08:22 PM
I personally have no problem with J-Bolt at all. As far as I'm concerned, he's a talented artist who is simply trying to find his way
in an industry that he loves. We socialized quite often throughout the time we worked together and I considered him to be a friend.


.... Wow.

This puts the lie to so many filthy insinuations that have been made in the past few years. There are definitely some folks out there who owe apologies to J-Bolt. It's as simple as that.

I called it, a few pages back in this thread and over in the comicon thread. That wasn't Judith Moose. It was all a lie.

There've been a lot of lies told, here and elsewhere. But lies tend to fall apart, eventually. I wonder how many more lies we've been told about J-Bolt's relationships with others in Hollywood.

I have a feeling we've only scratched the surface.

TomStillwell
07-23-2006, 08:50 PM
Um...Judith A. Moose is not in Hollywood. She has a PR firm running out of Nevada.

Her message also is contray to statesments J-Bolt has made about having Miss Moose as an agent when their association ended years earlier.

OMAR
07-23-2006, 09:13 PM
Um...Judith A. Moose is not in Hollywood. She has a PR firm running out of Nevada.



Oh, my bad. Rare for me to make a factual statment like that without having checked my facts yet, but that's what must have happened for me to make such an obvious, provable error. Huh. My sincerest apologies to all concerned.

Hmm... y'know, wait a minute. Let's Google her name and see what comes up.

"In January 2004 at the urging of her clients Judith moved from Las Vegas to Los Angeles and changed Stars In My Eyes to the JM Media Group. Her client base has grown to include 34 actors, a couple singers and a few old familiar faces. "

http://www.amazon.com/gp/blog/id/AVF13J54DK379/104-0893892-2324754

Maybe it isn't techically a lie, if you authoritatively state a fact about someone with being sure. I honestly don't know. But it's probably not good. Maybe it isn't just J-Bolt who has the right to expect some apologies.

SUPERECWFAN1
07-23-2006, 10:11 PM
Oh, my bad. Rare for me to make a factual statment like that without having checked my facts yet, but that's what must have happened for me to make such an obvious, provable error. Huh. My sincerest apologies to all concerned.

Hmm... y'know, wait a minute. Let's Google her name and see what comes up.

"In January 2004 at the urging of her clients Judith moved from Las Vegas to Los Angeles and changed Stars In My Eyes to the JM Media Group. Her client base has grown to include 34 actors, a couple singers and a few old familiar faces. "

http://www.amazon.com/gp/blog/id/AVF13J54DK379/104-0893892-2324754

Maybe it isn't techically a lie, if you authoritatively state a fact about someone with being sure. I honestly don't know. But it's probably not good. Maybe it isn't just J-Bolt who has the right to expect some apologies.

So....ya use google to find her name...but when people showed you that Jim Fisher owned the trademarks to his creatons ( LBC) you didn't believe them . Pretty wild....so why should we believe you ? ;)

Think about it like this Omar...without people learning of J-Bolt here...who would know him ? I came online in 1999 and for 2 to 3 years had no clue who or what he was til I found the link here. Then learned his story. Yes I shared some laughs and all. It was a funny tale made more funny with what I read of his ashcan.

But ya know what....I always said that if he put out a book I'd buy it. Others here have said the same things. If anything were the guys who would more than likely buy his work if it came to a LCS.

Good luck Omar supporting him. :)

Matt Algren
07-23-2006, 10:28 PM
So....you use google to find her name...but when people showed you that Jim Fisher owned the trademarks to his creatons (LBC) you didn't believe them . Pretty wild....so why should we believe you ?
...

Wait a minute.

Did SUPERE just make a really good point?

Back in the day we would have said "booyaa!!!" I think current terminology would be "pwned" or somesuch.

SUPERECWFAN1
07-23-2006, 10:33 PM
...

Wait a minute.

Did SUPERE just make a really good point?

Back in the day we would have said "booyaa!!!" I think current terminology would be "pwned" or somesuch.


I have my moments of pure clarity mixed in. Between the wrestling and the comics meltin my brains.

EdContradictory
07-23-2006, 10:39 PM
There are definitely some folks out there who owe apologies to J-Bolt. It's as simple as that.
Yes, everyone apologize for not believing the word of the delusional Internet weirdo with the giant sunglasses and mullet.

How could we have ever doubted him?

TomStillwell
07-23-2006, 10:45 PM
Oh, my bad. Rare for me to make a factual statment like that without having checked my facts yet, but that's what must have happened for me to make such an obvious, provable error. Huh. My sincerest apologies to all concerned.

Hmm... y'know, wait a minute. Let's Google her name and see what comes up.

"In January 2004 at the urging of her clients Judith moved from Las Vegas to Los Angeles and changed Stars In My Eyes to the JM Media Group. Her client base has grown to include 34 actors, a couple singers and a few old familiar faces. "

http://www.amazon.com/gp/blog/id/AVF...893892-2324754

Maybe it isn't techically a lie, if you authoritatively state a fact about someone with being sure. I honestly don't know. But it's probably not good. Maybe it isn't just J-Bolt who has the right to expect some apologies.

Damn, if it's on Amazon it must be factual!

Of course, if you look directly on JM Media Group's own website...the company website...

http://www.jmmediagroup.com/index.htm

Judith A. Moose
JM Media Group
701 Aspen Peak Loop, Suite 1712
Henderson, NV 89015
702.434.4261

But I guess Amazon is probably more up to date and factual than a company website. Of course if the link you provided went anywhere it would be helpful.

Gail Simone
07-24-2006, 01:18 AM
I take back what I said. Omar IS an idiot.

Jesus, even listening makes me feel stupid.

Gail

Gail Simone
07-24-2006, 01:19 AM
Damn, if it's on Amazon it must be factual!

Of course, if you look directly on JM Media Group's own website...the company website...

http://www.jmmediagroup.com/index.htm



But I guess Amazon is probably more up to date and factual than a company website. Of course if the link you provided went anywhere it would be helpful.


Tom, I give you full credit for making Omar look like a moron once again, except, let's be fair...

...how hard IS that to do? ;)

Gail

Gail Simone
07-24-2006, 01:23 AM
For the record, I have zero beef with Judith Moose, even though this intern thing seems like a huge steaming pile of...hmm...something. But I have no doubt she's a nice person with a legitimate business.

There was a post that fit in well with things she's said before, and Jaki has said before, then there was a very threatening post from J-Bolt, then there was a half-hearted retraction.

That's all we know. I frankly think the whole thing was bullshit, and not very GOOD bullshit, either.

Omar, I had no respect for you before, but I defended your intelligence. Now I, like everyone else on the net, think you're a goddamned dork with your head perpetually up your own ass.


Gail

Cam63
07-24-2006, 03:37 AM
For the record, I have zero beef with Judith Moose, even though this intern thing seems like a huge steaming pile of...hmm...something. But I have no doubt she's a nice person with a legitimate business.

There was a post that fit in well with things she's said before, and Jaki has said before, then there was a very threatening post from J-Bolt, then there was a half-hearted retraction.

That's all we know. I frankly think the whole thing was bullshit, and not very GOOD bullshit, either.

Omar, I had no respect for you before, but I defended your intelligence. Now I, like everyone else on the net, think you're a goddamned dork with your head perpetually up your own ass.


Gail

I'm starting to think Omar is one of Jim's personalities.

The one that can spell.

TomStillwell
07-24-2006, 08:01 AM
J-Bolt is like Dial S for Scumbags. Everytime he dials he becomes another entirely new jackass.

Gail Simone
07-24-2006, 08:30 AM
J-Bolt is like Dial S for Scumbags. Everytime he dials he becomes another entirely new jackass.


Dude, because of that, I now know your comics will be brilliant even without reading them.

Gail

Michael P
07-24-2006, 08:43 AM
Tom, I give you full credit for making Omar look like a moron once again, except, let's be fair...

...how hard IS that to do? ;)

Gail
Not very. I mean, if I can do it...

OMAR
07-24-2006, 11:39 AM
I take back what I said. Omar IS an idiot.

Jesus, even listening makes me feel stupid.

Gail

In January 2004 at the urging of her clients Judith moved from Las Vegas to Los Angeles and changed Stars In My Eyes to the JM Media Group. Her client base has grown to include 34 actors, a couple singers and a few old familiar faces. Judith Moose has assisted in the production of the A&E Network’s Biography episode on Joan Collins, the NBC 75th Anniversary Special, VH-1’s Where Are They Now, VH-1’s 25 Best Superstar Cameo Appearances, VH-1’s Super Secrets of TV Shows and is currently serving as the head of PR for the feature film Woman’s Story which premiered on September 10, 2004. In November 2004, Judith released her second book titled Another Time, Another Place: Quantum Leap with co-author Richie F. Levine.

2005 has been an equally productive year. Judith released her third book titled Glamour, Greed & Glory: Dynasty in August 2005 with co-author Paul D. Keylock, (personal assistant to Joan Collins) and launched a publishing division called Signing Stars. Next up on her list of things to do is her fourth book, tentatively titled Their Hobby is Murder, is a guide book for the hit series Hart To Hart starring Robert Wagner and Stefanie Powers. Their Hobby is Murder is slated for a Spring 2006 release.

http://www.jmmediagroup.com/about_us.htm

OMAR
07-24-2006, 11:42 AM
Damn, if it's on Amazon it must be factual!

Of course, if you look directly on JM Media Group's own website...the company website...

http://www.jmmediagroup.com/index.htm



But I guess Amazon is probably more up to date and factual than a company website. Of course if the link you provided went anywhere it would be helpful.

The company website says she's in LA. By continuing to spread this lie, even after being corrected, you could hurt her business. Potential clients might feel that if she's limited to Las Vegas she can't help them get work in Hollywood.

It's a lie, now, because you've been corrected and you're sticking with your story.

OMAR
07-24-2006, 11:50 AM
Tom, I give you full credit for making Omar look like a moron once again, except, let's be fair...

...how hard IS that to do? ;)

Gail

Well, and I'm sorry to have to say this, but I think you're looking more and more like a moron as this conversation continues. That emoticon sealed the deal.

Her website says she's in LA.

This is like trying to argue a factual case on the Byrne forum. You're so busy patting each other on the back that the truth doesn't have a chance. When I correct you, Gail/Byrne steps in to slam me with a personal insult, ignoring the truth.

Look, I'm trying to be respectful here but you're just plain wrong. And 30 seconds of research would have proven it, if you'd taken the time instead of relying on one of your bullettakers to get his facts straight.

EDIT: Just got off the phone with JM Media. They still have their office in Las Vegas but do most of their media work in Hollywood. Tom's statement - "Judith A. Moose is not in Hollywood" - is wrong.

EdContradictory
07-24-2006, 12:25 PM
The company website says she's in LA. By continuing to spread this lie, even after being corrected, you could hurt her business. Potential clients might feel that if she's limited to Las Vegas she can't help them get work in Hollywood.
I think you've bought into J-Bolt's hype too much.

You see, outside of us, in this thread, laughing at him, NO ONE CARES.

No one in the entire world.

Not a thing said in this thread will have any impact on the JM Media Group. At all. Ever.

EdContradictory
07-24-2006, 12:26 PM
EDIT: Just got off the phone with JM Media. They still have their office in Las Vegas but do most of their media work in Hollywood. Tom's statement - "Judith A. Moose is not in Hollywood" - is wrong.
That you actually called them is insane. You realize this, yes?

Matt Algren
07-24-2006, 12:27 PM
Well, and I'm sorry to have to say this, but I think you're looking more and more like a moron as this conversation continues. That emoticon sealed the deal.

Her website says she's in Hollywood.It also says she's in Vegas. Right there when you click on "Contact Us". Only when you dig into other areas do you find the LA office. This, of course, has nothing to do with anything and changes none of the arguments on either side. It's just an attempt at distraction from the silliness that is Jim Fisher. Nice try, though.This is like trying to argue a factual case on the Byrne forum. You're so busy patting each other on the back that the truth doesn't have a chance. When I correct you, Gail/Byrne steps in to slam me with a personal insult, ignoring the truth.Hail Gail!!!Look, I'm trying to be respectful here but you're just plain wrong. And 30 seconds of research would have proven it, if you'd taken the time instead of relying on one of your bullettakers to get his facts straight.To quote OMAR from last month, I don't know anything about the accuracy of the sites in question, how complete they are, who created them, and what agenda the creators might have had.Funny how your ability to do research and your trust of online resources change depending on the distance of the ancillary issue from the subject at hand. I could probably draw a neato graph of it if you'd like.EDIT: Just got off the phone with JM Media. They still have their office in Las Vegas but do most of their media work in Hollywood. Tom's statement - "Judith A. Moose is not in Hollywood" - is wrong.Can we all agree to stop calling people about our novelty act? It really sucks all the funny out of this and borders on interfering with her business.

Matt Algren
07-24-2006, 12:31 PM
The company website says she's in LA. By continuing to spread this lie, even after being corrected, you could hurt her business. Potential clients might feel that if she's limited to Las Vegas she can't help them get work in Hollywood.If that's all it takes to hurt her business, it was in trouble before we even heard of her.

TomStillwell
07-24-2006, 12:34 PM
EDIT: Just got off the phone with JM Media. They still have their office in Las Vegas but do most of their media work in Hollywood. Tom's statement - "Judith A. Moose is not in Hollywood" - is wrong.

The full statement: Um...Judith A. Moose is not in Hollywood. She has a PR firm running out of Nevada.

Taking stuff out of context is fun!

The company website says she's in LA. By continuing to spread this lie, even after being corrected, you could hurt her business. Potential clients might feel that if she's limited to Las Vegas she can't help them get work in Hollywood.

It's a lie, now, because you've been corrected and you're sticking with your story.

Well then, genius, Judy might want to change the contact information on her own website. For a firm that's based in Hollywood it might help to actually have a business phone and mailing address in, you know, California.

http://www.jmmediagroup.com/contact_us.htm

sk716
07-24-2006, 03:44 PM
Either OMAR really is another of J-Bolt's personalities, or he's been studying J-Bolt's rhetoric for too long.

Seriously OMAR, this is the point you choose to argue? Where Judith Moose's office is located. Have you recently had serious head trauma?

Michael P
07-24-2006, 03:53 PM
Either OMAR really is another of J-Bolt's personalities, or he's been studying J-Bolt's rhetoric for too long.

Seriously OMAR, this is the point you choose to argue? Where Judith Moose's office is located. Have you recently had serious head trauma?
I wouldn't call it recent, but you're on a good track.

Mike Smash!
07-24-2006, 03:55 PM
So if J-Bolt is as successful and legitimate as OMAR says he is, why is it that he's only released a SINGLE comic book -- and a bad one at that?

I mean, "experimental wolf blood"?

OMAR
07-24-2006, 04:44 PM
Either OMAR really is another of J-Bolt's personalities, or he's been studying J-Bolt's rhetoric for too long.

Seriously OMAR, this is the point you choose to argue?

No, check again. It was a reference I made. Tom seized on it, ignoring the point I was (arguably, I suppose) making.

OMAR
07-24-2006, 04:49 PM
That you actually called them is insane. You realize this, yes?

I saw someone was spreading misinformation about them, so I called the "contact us" number posted on their public website. I didn't mention anything about the internet, Gail, J-Bolt, or movies. I took 20 seconds of the receptionist's time to clarify whether they worked in Hollywood, thanked her for her time and hung up.

Didn't mess with anyone's business, didn't slander anyone, and was able to verify that they do work in Hollywood - the kind of information I'm sure they're glad to have desseminated.

OMAR
07-24-2006, 05:08 PM
Well then, genius, Judy might want to change the contact information on her own website. For a firm that's based in Hollywood it might help to actually have a business phone and mailing address in, you know, California.

http://www.jmmediagroup.com/contact_us.htm

Tom, I said:

"I wonder how many more lies we've been told about J-Bolt's relationships with others in Hollywood."

You countered with:
"Um...Judith A. Moose is not in Hollywood. She has a PR firm running out of Nevada."

And I restated that she is in Hollywood, providing an admittedly broken link to a statement about how she moved there in 2004.

Really wouldn't have been any big deal if you'd acknowledged your error, or even just ignored it. But instead you had to "prove" me wrong.

Then, in the space of 5 minutes, Gail made 3 posts. One calling me an idiot. Another saying I looked like a moron. And a third saying that I'm a Goddamn dork with my head up my ass (Gee, I wonder if she had some pent up hostility that she was waiting for an excuse to vent?). All based on the "fact" that I had been "proven" wrong on one small factual matter.

Now she may believe all those things about me, and maybe you all do to. But regardless of that, the truth is I was right to refer to Judith Moose as someone in Hollywood, Tom was wrong to correct me, and it's clear none of you will ever admit that.

Is it bizzare and pathetic that we're going back and forth over this minor point? Sure, this whole thread's an exercise in pathetic weirdness. But I didn't start that arguement over her location, and I was right in my position.

All the personal insults in the world can't change that.

OMAR
07-24-2006, 05:12 PM
So if J-Bolt is as successful and legitimate as OMAR says he is, why is it that he's only released a SINGLE comic book -- and a bad one at that?

I mean, "experimental wolf blood"?

I never said J-Bolt has been successful. That's what makes dumping on him for 5 years so pathetic and meanspirited. It's kind of my point - he's a guy working hard to fulfill his dreams, and having a hard time of it.

OzBat!
07-24-2006, 05:30 PM
But regardless of that, the truth is I was right to refer to Judith Moose as someone in Hollywood, Tom was wrong to correct me, and it's clear none of you will ever admit that.You're both playing semantics here. They have a presence in both Hollywood and Nevada. It's plain that that occurred so that she could better serve and develop growing links with Hollywood based clientel. Nothing you OR Tom has said contradicts this. It's ALSO plain that Jaqui let Fisher go years ago, while he continued to use her name after the end of the business relationship in his bid for maintaining an air of respectability.

That's very close to fraud, in my books.

OMAR
07-24-2006, 05:42 PM
You're both playing semantics here. They have a presence in both Hollywood and Nevada. It's plain that that occurred so that she could better serve and develop growing links with Hollywood based clientel. Nothing you OR Tom has said contradicts this.

Either this attempt at a compromise is more intellectual dishonesty, or you haven't been paying attention.

What Tom said - "Um...Judith A. Moose is not in Hollywood. She has a PR firm running out of Nevada." - does indeed contradict your explanation.


I never said she wasn't in Nevada. He said she wasn't in Hollywood. Only one of us is wrong.

McDonald's is in all 50 states. Moose's business is in Las Vegas, Hollywood and for all I know maybe somewhere else.

OzBat!
07-24-2006, 05:48 PM
You're right, I apologise. Tom DID say she was not in Hollywood. Then we have this little gem:The company website says she's in LA. By continuing to spread this lie, even after being corrected, you could hurt her business. Potential clients might feel that if she's limited to Las Vegas she can't help them get work in Hollywood.

It's a lie, now, because you've been corrected and you're sticking with your story.This was in direct response to Tom linking to the JM Media Group's own contact page (http://www.jmmediagroup.com/contact_us.htm), which has their primary contact as? Ooh look! Nevada! If this is "continuing to spread this lie", then it is the company that is lying.

So, as long as we're attempting "more intellectual dishonesty", lets make it equal opportunity, okay?

TomStillwell
07-24-2006, 05:53 PM
It's kind of my point - he's a guy working hard to fulfill his dreams, and having a hard time of it.

No, he's not. An actual hard working guy in five years would have produced some sellable work. No amount of "hard times" would have stopped that from happening.

Do you think any of the rest of us trying to break into the comic industry have smooth sailing and tons of support? What conditions has J-Bolt faced that no one else has endured to make it in the business?

An honest, hard working person with true talent and ambition makes it happen. Period. No excuses. They may not be Stan Lee but they come out and do the absolute best they can.

Guys who made it in comics years ago showed up in the bullpens day and day out looking for work, eager to get whatever they could. Working in comics is just that. Work.

I work a 9-5 job and have a family waiting for me when I get home. I write on lunch breaks, on the train, and when my four year old daughter is in bed. I suffer from a sleep disorder and I'm dead tired most of the time which makes it hard to write...but I do it. Aside from writing, I personally handle every aspect of marketing, selling, packaging, and shipping my comics & posters.

Gail's not at home eating bon-bons burning off a script every so often. She's working her tail off with BoP, Secret Six and The Atom. Those are monthly comics which take months to produce.

Nope, J-Bolt's never worked a hard day in comics. He wouldn't know hard work in comics if it wore a kilt and danced a jig for him. He came with a big mouth spouting off great claims but without the drive to back them up.

Instead of actual work he's handed out lies, scams, and false boasts. At best J-Bolt is a poser. At worst he's a slimy snake oil salesman who'd just as soon bilk you as earn an honest wage.

I vehemently resent you or anyone else claiming J-Bolt's just some poor schmuck having a hard time making his dream come true. That belittles the hard work and sacrifice everyone else in comics has gone through to make it work.

Bottom line, if J-Bolt had just shut his trap and worked like the rest of us his dream would be a whole lot closer to coming true.

OMAR
07-24-2006, 06:02 PM
You're right, I apologise. Tom DID say she was not in Hollywood. Then we have this little gem:This was in direct response to Tom linking to the JM Media Group's own contact page (http://www.jmmediagroup.com/contact_us.htm), which has their primary contact as? Ooh look! Nevada! If this is "continuing to spread this lie", then it is the company that is lying.

So, as long as we're attempting "more intellectual dishonesty", lets make it equal opportunity, okay?

The lie is that they aren't in Hollywood.

Where it says on the website that they can be contacted in Nevada, that's not a misstatement or a lie. They can be. None of that implies that they are not in Hollywood. When Tom says it does, he's wrong.

That's not semantics, it's 9th grade logic.

When he continues to claim that - and I haven't see him post a retraction, so I'm assuming he still doesn't believe they're in Hollywood - in my opinion it turns into a lie.

OMAR
07-24-2006, 06:07 PM
I work a 9-5 job and have a family waiting for me when I get home. I write on lunch breaks, on the train, and when my four year old daughter is in bed. I suffer from a sleep disorder and I'm dead tired most of the time which makes it hard to write...but I do it. Aside from writing, I personally handle every aspect of marketing, selling, packaging, and shipping my comics & posters.

Wow, it's hard to believe you have so much time to spend telling people that Judith A. Moose isn't in Hollywood. Look, I have nothing but respect for what you're doing, juggling all those things, but you're off-base here. She is in Hollywood. I realize it's not easy to be wrong about correcting someone in public, especially when it's done with such fervor. I've been there myself before.

Sabrinaset
07-24-2006, 06:15 PM
But the point he's making is that in the years J-Bolt has been around talking about how hard he's working, he hasn't backed it up with any amount of work, it's all talk.

I mean, just in the past month, I've made three drawings on YABS. One of the Black Canary, one of Karen El, and a third of the Sapphic Surfer. I bet I could get three YABSies to buy those pictures tonight, if I really wanted to. Okay, the Sapphic Surfer one would be the easiest, but still ... it seems that me doing a few sketches in a few minutes is more work that J-Bolt, with all his so-called connections everywhere, has accomplished in YEARS.

OzBat!
07-24-2006, 06:16 PM
The lie is that they aren't in Hollywood.

Where it says on the website that they can be contacted in Nevada, that's not a misstatement or a lie. They can be. None of that implies that they are not in Hollywood. When Tom says it does, he's wrong.

That's not semantics, it's 9th grade logic.

When he continues to claim that - and I haven't see him post a retraction, so I'm assuming he still doesn't believe they're in Hollywood - in my opinion it turns into a lie.Okay. So when Fisher lies that he was still being represented by them long after that representation ceased, that wasn't a lie?

OMAR
07-24-2006, 06:19 PM
But the point he's making is that in the years J-Bolt has been around talking about how hard he's working, he hasn't backed it up with any amount of work, it's all talk.

I mean, just in the past month, I've made three drawings on YABS. One of the Black Canary, one of Karen El, and a third of the Sapphic Surfer. I bet I could get three YABSies to buy those pictures tonight, if I really wanted to. Okay, the Sapphic Surfer one would be the easiest, but still ... it seems that me doing a few sketches in a few minutes is more work that J-Bolt, with all his so-called connections everywhere, has accomplished in YEARS.

Well, we know he's done some work at some point, given the ashcan. But if you're saying - or if Tom is - that he could have done more, that he hasn't done enough recently, I won't dispute that. He's said the movie takes up most of his time. Obviously there is no finished movie to judge, yet, but I join those who wish he'd spend more time at the drawing board.

sk716
07-24-2006, 06:27 PM
Well, we know he's done some work at some point, given the ashcan. But if you're saying - or if Tom is - that he could have done more, that he hasn't done enough recently, I won't dispute that. He's said the movie takes up most of his time. Obviously there is no finished movie to judge, yet, but I join those who wish he'd spend more time at the drawing board.

There's not even..

Oh nevermind, I have better things to waste my breath on.

OzBat!
07-24-2006, 06:42 PM
There's not even..

Oh nevermind, I have better things to waste my breath on.Yeah, I'm washing my hands of this one.

TomStillwell
07-24-2006, 06:49 PM
I'll say it very clearly so it's not misunderstood.

When I said Miss Moose wasn't in Hollywood that was because given the contact information off her site I had no reason to think she was anywhere but Nevada. I was wrong based off Miss Moose's own information.

When you confirmed she was indeed in Hollywood I never said that was wrong. I just pointed out that they may want to put that somewhere in their contact information especially when you contended that it might hurt her business otherwise.

So, no lies involved. Just unclarified information.

Now, let's talk about lies.

He's said the movie takes up most of his time.

Which movie would that be?

JeffreyWKramer
07-24-2006, 06:52 PM
People, really...

Arguing about J-Bolt... with Omar...

What next? Taking drawing classes from Rob Liefeld?

TomStillwell
07-24-2006, 06:55 PM
Liefeld makes the best damn pouches in the business!

Michael P
07-24-2006, 06:58 PM
Liefeld makes the best damn pouches in the business!
The accessories design industry lost a genius.

JeffreyWKramer
07-24-2006, 07:02 PM
The accessories design industry lost a genius.

They're welcome to have him back at any time.

the4thpip
07-25-2006, 02:08 AM
Liefeld makes the best damn pouches in the business!
But enough about his 7-inch shaft.

MacQuarrie
07-25-2006, 02:08 AM
The lie is that they aren't in Hollywood.

Where it says on the website that they can be contacted in Nevada, that's not a misstatement or a lie. They can be. None of that implies that they are not in Hollywood. When Tom says it does, he's wrong.

That's not semantics, it's 9th grade logic.

When he continues to claim that - and I haven't see him post a retraction, so I'm assuming he still doesn't believe they're in Hollywood - in my opinion it turns into a lie.
The correct answer is "who gives a shit?"

You're playing distraction games to avoid the fact that Jim Fisher lied about being represented by Judith Moose and Jaki Baskow for a couple of years after their relationships ended.

MacQuarrie
07-25-2006, 02:21 AM
Here is Judith A. Moose's response to my e-mail.



Now here's an interesting tidbit. In my e-mail I referred to J-Bolt as Jim Fisher almost exclusively and only once as J-Bolt. Even then I referred to him as someone who also goes by the name J-Bolt.

She never corrected me and she herself called the man I named as Jim Fisher J-Bolt.
Here's a more interesting tidbit. I e-mailed Judith Moose when that first post appeared a couple of months ago, and I got a reply from her.

I'll post it tomorrow.

Curiouser and curiouser.

Cam63
07-25-2006, 02:43 AM
I hope it explains why Z grade famous wankers ( I can't call them celebrities anymore ) earn more per annum than some countries.

...or something like that.

founder81
07-25-2006, 09:01 AM
Did anyone else notice that the reply letter contradicted itself:


Hello Tom,

Thank you for your message. I had received one yesterday from another member of
your board pointing out the same item. Up until that point, I had no idea of my
supposedly posting on the forum and you may post this message as a reply if you
wish. An intern that I had in my office through the end of June had mentioned something
about seeing my name connected with a forum concerning J-Bolt stating that Jaki
Baskow and I are involved in his projects. Not having seen the forum or any of
its content, I commented to my intern that we both did work with him but that Jaki
didn't currently represent him and that I hadn't worked with him since around
the end of 2000 or beginning of 2001. I had no idea that he would take it upon
himself to impersonate me, much less create chaos in the process. As each day passes,
I'm becoming more pleased that I let him go last month as I have discovered
that this is not the first item he's lent my name to.

Catherine Ingham is indeed my assistant and while that's not exactly the message
I had dictated to her over the telephone yesterday, it's close enough to what
I wanted to convey. I personally have no problem with J-Bolt at all. As far as
I'm concerned, he's a talented artist who is simply trying to find his way
in an industry that he loves. We socialized quite often throughout the time we
worked together and I considered him to be a friend.

For the sake of knowledge, other than yesterday's message from Catherine, I
will not be posting on the forum as my business dealings with J-Bolt were over several
years ago. I wish him well with his current and future endeavors but honestly have
nothing to discuss. Any type of future discussion that I would possibly have with
him would be either over a telephone or face-to-face. I have two companies to run
on a daily basis and taking part in a smear campaign isn't something that I
would do. One of my companies is an Entertainment PR firm, at which my staff and
I protect people's reputations, not try to destroy them.

Once again, thank you for your message. I appreciate you bringing this issue to
my attention.

With all good wishes,
Judith A. Moose, President
JM Media Group / Signing Stars Publishing


bolded statements mine. Seems a big error to confuse months with years.

who ever called BS, i gotta agree.

MacQuarrie
07-25-2006, 09:06 AM
Did anyone else notice that the reply letter contradicted itself:



bolded statements mine. Seems a big error to confuse months with years.

who ever called BS, i gotta agree.
Pronoun trouble.

The "him" that Moose hadn't worked with since 2000-2001 is J-Bolt.
The "him" that she let go last month is her intern.

TomStillwell
07-25-2006, 09:15 AM
I thought the same thing when I first read the e-mail. She jumped around a bit making it a little confusing.

founder81
07-25-2006, 11:18 AM
Your both right. I can see it now that's its pointed out. Guess J-bolt leaves bad grammer behind where ever he goes.

**gulp** Am i next?

Sharpandpointies
07-25-2006, 11:44 AM
Your both right. I can see it now that's its pointed out. Guess J-bolt leaves bad grammer behind where ever he goes.

**gulp** Am i next?

Yes. */irony*

Sorry. I couldn't resist. :D

the4thpip
07-25-2006, 11:49 AM
Your both right. I can see it now that's its pointed out. Guess J-bolt leaves bad grammer behind where ever he goes.

**gulp** Am i next?
Well... it should have been "you're" you know...
And "grammar."

MacQuarrie
07-25-2006, 12:00 PM
Hurm. I e-mailed Ms. Moose on June 20 and specifically mentioned her post at comicon.com, and she referred to it herself in her reply on June 21. Something's fishy here.

{Deleted. If you want to read it, e-mail me at macq@monkeyspit.net}

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "MacQ@monkeyspit" <macq@monkeyspit.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 18:14:45 -0700

>Ms Moose,
>
>I saw your recent post on the comicon.com message boards concerning J-Bolt
>and his "Bombshell" project. As you may have surmised, I have been following
>this project for a long time, so I had to google up your site and contact
>you. Would you mind sharing your experience and impressions of J-Bolt with
>me? It's purely to satisfy my own curiosity, and need not be posted anywhere
>publicly if you'd prefer to avoid any further involvement.
>
>Thanks,
>Jim MacQ.
>
>Jim MacQuarrie
>Writer, Rant-Man’s Notebook:
> http://www.monkeyspit.net/rantman/
>Artist, The Fourth Wall:
> http://www.monkeyspit.net/4thwall/
>Occasional fact-checker, Suspension of Disbelief:
> http://comicfacts.blogspot.com

Crowley
07-25-2006, 04:52 PM
yeah... this shit makes no sense.

OMAR
07-25-2006, 07:44 PM
I think Ms. Moose explained it all pretty clearly. It's telling that the only one of us to actually have met the man - and to have been involved in business with him - seems to be quite a J-Bolt fan!

Magneto_X
07-25-2006, 07:54 PM
Omar:

"MacQuacky" isn't a fan of J-Bolt!

SUPERECWFAN1
07-25-2006, 07:56 PM
I still can't believe that you expect me to believe all your research Omar. I mean seriously , a few pages back I did say that when people showed you proof of things ( copyrights) ya dimissed them and all.

I will not fall for your tricks. :p

Crowley
07-25-2006, 08:03 PM
I think Ms. Moose explained it all pretty clearly. It's telling that the only one of us to actually have met the man - and to have been involved in business with him - seems to be quite a J-Bolt fan!
right... so there's her and you.

Cam63
07-25-2006, 11:51 PM
This thread needs some lebian lurve.

MacQuarrie
07-25-2006, 11:51 PM
I think Ms. Moose explained it all pretty clearly. It's telling that the only one of us to actually have met the man - and to have been involved in business with him - seems to be quite a J-Bolt fan!
My e-mail conversation with Ms. Moose is not for public posting, but I was left with the distinct impression that she was simply refusing to say anything negative about him. That's her job, to protect people's reputations rather than to tear them down, and she does her job well, but I do not see anything to indicate that she is "a fan."

But even if she is "quite a fan," that does not change the fact that Fisher was falsely claiming she represented him a good three years after their professional relationsship ended.

A fact which you continue to ignore.

PatrickG
07-26-2006, 12:17 AM
I wish I had a Mr. Moose.

founder81
07-26-2006, 06:36 AM
**gulp** Am i next?

Well... it should have been "you're" you know...
And "grammar."

Yes. */irony*

Sorry. I couldn't resist. :D


hmmm... yes I am.

**covers self with orange jello, puts potato salad down my pants, lights hair on fire and goes plays on the swing sets.**

Matt Algren
07-26-2006, 07:44 AM
A fact which you continue to ignore.
But she has an office in Los Angeles!!! Los Angeles!!! Take that, MacQuackie!

OMAR
07-26-2006, 12:14 PM
But even if she is "quite a fan," that does not change the fact that Fisher was falsely claiming she represented him a good three years after their professional relationsship ended.

A fact which you continue to ignore.

I don't understand how that became a "fact". You're saying that they gave differing accounts of when their professional relationship ended? Even if that's true, one of them could have been honestly mistaken - and how are we to tell which of the two parties were wrong (or lying)?

PatrickG
07-26-2006, 12:23 PM
Well, you could go based on credibility.

I don't know Moose's background but J-Bolt's lack of credibility is a known commodity.

I know you perceive this as an underdog situation, Omar... But why do you think we picked on J-Bolt instead of Kirkman or Bendis, who were both fairly indy around the same time J-Bolt showed up.

And nobody has jumped me or Tom Stillwell or Typo Lad or any number of "underpublished" creators on these boards.

And if anybody DID jump us, our reaction would be an honest "Yeah. I'd like to do more" and NOT "I am president of a multinational corporation with international fanclubs and I'm a great humanitarian who will be remembered in history books for a five page ashcan".

Typo Lad
07-26-2006, 12:27 PM
I wish someone would jump on me. I could use the free publicity.

EdContradictory
07-26-2006, 12:28 PM
I don't understand how that became a "fact". You're saying that they gave differing accounts of when their professional relationship ended? Even if that's true, one of them could have been honestly mistaken - and how are we to tell which of the two parties were wrong (or lying)?
Do you realize how insane it is to just come onto a comic book message board to only defend a comic "creator" that you've never met, never bought anything from, and never will be able to buy anything from? (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/search.php?searchid=1743635)

MacQuarrie
07-26-2006, 12:39 PM
But she has an office in Los Angeles!!! Los Angeles!!! Take that, MacQuackie!
SO DO I!!!! Take THAT!

TomStillwell
07-26-2006, 01:10 PM
I'm hoping my wife jumps on me tonight.

Typo Lad
07-26-2006, 01:11 PM
I don't even have that to look forward to. Mine's having a ladies night out.

SUPERECWFAN1
07-26-2006, 01:19 PM
I want Natasha to jump me. I mean look at her. Their always looking for Moose and Squirrel. ;)

Forsaken_One
07-26-2006, 01:30 PM
SO DO I!!!! Take THAT!
You poor bastard. I woudln't wish living in LA on my worst enemy. :p

By the way... why are ya'll still talking about J-bolt two years after he was banned?

MacQuarrie
07-26-2006, 01:33 PM
I don't understand how that became a "fact". You're saying that they gave differing accounts of when their professional relationship ended? Even if that's true, one of them could have been honestly mistaken - and how are we to tell which of the two parties were wrong (or lying)?
I was there in 2004 when J-Bolt referred to Judith Moose as his publicist.

Now he publicly admits that their relationship was terminated in 2000 or 2001. She also says their professional relationship ended around that time. The only thing she retracted was the implied negative attitude toward Fisher in the earlier post. Both participants agree that she has not represented him for at least five years. Yet Fisher claimed her as his publicist two years ago.

That means that it is a fact, admitted by Jim Fisher himself in his frothing ALL CAPS rant at comicon.com, that he lied about her representing him, and he did so for three years.

You are defending a chronic and habitual liar.

MacQuarrie
07-26-2006, 01:36 PM
You poor bastard. I woudln't wish living in LA on my worst enemy. :p

By the way... why are ya'll still talking about J-bolt two years after he was banned?
As far as I know, he's not banned.

Forsaken_One
07-26-2006, 01:46 PM
Really? From the beginning of this thread (Gail saying "Well, looks like the fun is over.") I assumed he was banned. Then again I didn't exactly do... any research on it. ;)

EdContradictory
07-26-2006, 01:47 PM
You are defending a chronic and habitual liar.
Which is an insane thing to do.

Which means that OMAR is either insane or a troll of the highest order getting weird-ass jollies off of this. Which, I should also mention, would be insane.

OMAR
07-26-2006, 01:51 PM
"I was there in 2004 when J-Bolt referred to Judith Moose as his publicist."

In an online statement or in person? I'd like to see some evidence of that happening (and that it wasn't a reference to their past business relationship). If it's in the present tense, and was a statement made in 2004, then by all means let's see it in it's original context.

Brandon Hanvey
07-26-2006, 05:02 PM
As far as I know, he's not banned.

There is no J-Bolt account in the current system. And I do not believe he was ever banned on the last forum set-up.

OzBat!
07-26-2006, 05:31 PM
There is no J-Bolt account in the current system. And I do not believe he was ever banned on the last forum set-up.Of course not... the entertainment value was just too great!

MacQuarrie
07-26-2006, 06:18 PM
"I was there in 2004 when J-Bolt referred to Judith Moose as his publicist."

In an online statement or in person? I'd like to see some evidence of that happening (and that it wasn't a reference to their past business relationship). If it's in the present tense, and was a statement made in 2004, then by all means let's see it in it's original context.
Of course it was online. I've only dealt with Fisher online and on the phone.

You might find evidence via the Wayback machine, but I doubt it. Given that Fisher can't keep a domain name or website active for more than about six months at a time, and given that he completely wipes and restarts his website about every 3 or 4 years (whenever he gets caught in enough lies to have to start over), and given that he had had all the posts at IMDB wiped numerous times, you'll have a hard time finding that evidence.

Though Gail mentioned it in one of the earlier posts on Comicon.com. You could look over there for her comment.

MacQuarrie
07-26-2006, 06:20 PM
Really? From the beginning of this thread (Gail saying "Well, looks like the fun is over.") I assumed he was banned. Then again I didn't exactly do... any research on it. ;)
She was referring to one of the many times Fisher's website was suspended or deactivated, most likely due to non-payment.

Sabrinaset
07-26-2006, 06:27 PM
This thread needs some lebian lurve.

...you rang?

MacQuarrie
07-26-2006, 06:42 PM
...you rang?
We have a rather ... unique assignment for you. You are to derail this thread by means of Bombshell/Marrina slashfic.

Bombshell is a blonde psychopath with gigantic pontoons, even bigger metal wristbands, and a thong. She blows crap up.

Marrina is a water-breather whose origin I forget, but she comes from the ocean. You might find a description at http://jboltmania.jbolted.com if you're lucky.

You may, if you choose, do a Mary Sue and cast yourself and Kris as the characters, taking either part.

Go!

sk716
07-26-2006, 06:44 PM
Oh, come on. I'd hate to derail a perfectly good J-Bolt thread. There's a lot of great memories in this thread.

Lets all just ignore Omar and he'll go away again.

Sabrinaset
07-26-2006, 07:22 PM
Well, I'll let you two work it out. Kris is here now, we're both in the treehouse and about to make love. I'll be back in a couple hours.

Never done ... don't think I'd ever READ...slashfic. I'll do enough slashing when I'm a surgeon, not something I wanna enjoy later. Why take my job home with me?

MacQuarrie
07-26-2006, 07:28 PM
It seems Fisher has finally noticed this li'l thread here. Check it out at IMDB...

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0093335/board/thread/48666008

sk716
07-26-2006, 07:44 PM
It seems Fisher has finally noticed this li'l thread here. Check it out at IMDB...

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0093335/board/thread/48666008


Final Proof...
by - j-bolt (Wed Jul 19 2006 15:22:58)
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Folks...
As everybody knows, I ABSOLUTELY ABHORE continuing any conversation which entails the known bashers of me, my company, and the projects involved with both. But, once or twice a year, I'll check on their rantings, especially in their comic book resources bulletin boards, to see what their latest harrassments are.
What I've found, as of today, will show everybody just how much these people desire to strike against me and everything involved with me. This is directly connected with IMDb because they have plotted how to harrass me through this site. If you go to http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=2784&page=150 and look near the bottom of that page of posts, you'll find a post from one of their ilk, named "OzBat!" This is what that post entails, concerning their libelous and untrue posts they've placed here, on IMDb, involving me and the removal of those posts by IMDb: "I'd keep reposting it exactly as is, every single day. Just to piss him off. OzBat!" When you read the posts that follow in the pages afterwards, you'll see how the other members give kudos to OzBat! for such an idea.
Now, would you also like to see what I've had to endure (as well as you, on IMDb) from these people for far too long, now? Start from page 1 and read all the way through the 169 pages of posts (to date so far, anyway, as I'm sure there will be even more after this IMDb post from me) and you'll see just what I've been forced to endure and ignore, as of late.
Once again, the only reason I'm even mentioning them again now is so that everybody can finally see what's been going on and maybe the bashers can get lost once and for all. On the same note, I'm sure that IMDb will be reading this post and make their own judgements on the situation, especially if any of the bashers attempt to have this post removed, whereas it exposes them for what they truly are, in THEIR OWN WORDS.
I apologize for breaking my own rule of not talking about these miscreants, but this info needed to be outed. I'll now go back to ignoring this sort of thing and let all of you be the judge. If there's something you want to know about firsthand, I'm welcome to relevant/intelligent questions in my e-mail.
Thanks for everyone's support,
J-Bolt
President/CEO
Lightning Bolt Entertainment family of companies
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Hmmmmm....

sk716
07-26-2006, 07:45 PM
Let's see that post that J-Bolt is so worked up over:

I'd keep reposting it exactly as is, every single day. Just to piss him off.

Now, what could Oz be referring to, oh it's a J-Bolt Archive from Mac, let's read it shall we:

J-

Nice to see you're finally back to work on your site. You may want to fire whichever sock puppet replaced "Heather" for abuse of the "blink" tag. My god that's ugly.


Anyway, in the interest of accuracy, you may want to edit that news page a little...

> Unprofessional people such as Gail Simone and James MacQuarrie (who both
> havce association with other comic publishing compnies along with their
> accomplices of similar backgrounds and associations)

I have no association with any other comic publishing companies. Back in 1996, I worked for Electric Crayon, a now-defunct company that colored comics for Marvel, DC, Image, Wildstorm, Verotik and others, but that was a long time ago. I have associations with a lot of freelancers, but not any companies.

> have spent a great deal of time, effort, and money in libelously knocking down
> trees in the LBE forrest. Though the damage they have caused has been minor,
> in comparison, nonetheless, they have committed both legal and civil crimes
> including plagiarism, public personality stalking, harassment as well as a
> laundry list of other broken laws., which are being dealt with in varied
> Courts of Law.

I've spent very little time and no money doing anything of the sort. I also have not committed any of the alleged crimes you mention. I also haven't been served with any court papers yet. If you aren't going to sue, stop talking about it.

> This is the last time that the LBE fans, friends, cast/crew will hear about it
> from us because the subject is just as profane as the