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MacQuarrie
03-27-2006, 06:28 PM
I'd keep reposting it exactly as is, every single day. Just to piss him off.
hah.

I might do that.

Ah, spring! The new buds are appearing ont eh trees, the sun is shining again, and J-Bolt returns from his long hibernation. All is right with the world.

Magneto_X
03-27-2006, 07:01 PM
NightSwordsman is not J-Bolt. If he was he would have never played CoH/CoV with Gail or the rest of us, ahem, 'bashers'.

Then I apologise to Night Swordsman.

Cam63
03-27-2006, 07:29 PM
I reckon J-Bolt could've at least made the Hulk movie more entertaining.

Magneto_X
03-27-2006, 07:31 PM
Mac:

That was great! :D

Cam:

I liked the Hulk movie.

Cam63
03-27-2006, 07:34 PM
Vive la differance.

founder81
03-28-2006, 07:25 AM
I'd keep reposting it exactly as is, every single day. Just to piss him off.

That's so simple, so elequant, it's PERFECT.

MacQuarrie
03-28-2006, 09:43 PM
He won't come out and play.

Wingnut
03-28-2006, 10:02 PM
Well, I posted something just a few hours ago, and he's already had it tossed by the admins. Part of it said how it was funny that he was getting factual posts tossed, but his threat of charges against Mac remain.

I almost want to report his comment as abuse, and have it tossed, just to piss him off. Then again, it being there serves as continual proof of what an idiot he is.

The 2nd thread you started, Mac, has also been deleted, but the re-post of your original point-by-point message is still up there.

Wingnut
03-28-2006, 10:21 PM
He JUST got done posting a little note basically saying that he's taking his toys and going home again. I guess he thought everyone had forgotten about him, and he was ready to start his hype-fest again, but since there are too many people that know the truth that is Jim "J-Bolt" Fisher, he's decided to take his ball, and crawl back under his rock. He's probably sucking his thumb as I type this.

Too bad. Although, he's had his taste of being out and about again, so I'm sure he'll pop again quite soon.

Wingnut
03-28-2006, 11:12 PM
Well, now he's had Mac's re-post deleted, and my reply to his goodbye note deleted.

Con-men really don't like when the truth gets out.

MacQuarrie
03-29-2006, 02:18 AM
Well, now he's had Mac's re-post deleted, and my reply to his goodbye note deleted.

Con-men really don't like when the truth gets out.
You have to repost everything here so we can archive it.

OzBat!
03-29-2006, 04:36 AM
Okay, none of my old links work anymore... could somebody post the links to the IMDB and J-Bolt board threads, wherever they may now lurk?

MacQuarrie
03-29-2006, 11:09 AM
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0093335/board/threads/

But you better hurry. I just reported every post in which he mentions me to the administrators as libellous. I wouldn't be surprised if he gets banned soon.

Guapo Méndez
03-29-2006, 11:25 AM
Did someone save his last, eyesore of an answer? It's already been deleted.

MacQuarrie
03-29-2006, 12:14 PM
Nope. I couldn't even wade through it.

Does it bother anyone else that J-Bolt, Bombshell, and Lightning Bolt Entertainment have no entry in Wikipedia?

It's enough to make one register an account.

Typo Lad
03-29-2006, 12:22 PM
Don't fall off the wagon Jim. Be the better man. It's really not that hard.

Guapo Méndez
03-29-2006, 12:26 PM
I agree with Typo. It's not worth the hassle.

Magneto_X
03-29-2006, 12:39 PM
Nope. I couldn't even wade through it.

Does it bother anyone else that J-Bolt, Bombshell, and Lightning Bolt Entertainment have no entry in Wikipedia?

It's enough to make one register an account.

Someone has to do this! :D

MacQuarrie
03-29-2006, 12:45 PM
I agree with Typo. It's not worth the hassle.
Are you kidding? Do you not remember the delightful time we had when Bolty thought JBolted.com was real?

Typo Lad
03-29-2006, 01:02 PM
Jim, I already said this to you in IM, but I would like to say it again, and address all of the YABites at once.

This is no longer a good thing by any stretch of the imagination. J-Bolt is not a good person, no. He is not an honest person. He is, by all appearances, not a terribly sane person. To be blunt, I would not be surprised to discover that he suffers from a serious mental imbalance of some sort, diagnosed or not.

This does not excuse his behavior, obviously. Nor, however, does it excuse ours.

J-Bolt is obviously living in another reality. We all know that Jim’s a good guy. We all know that Jim’s not trying to steal $20, and really didn’t get his posters. We all know that Gail was serious her initial offer of help and advice. He doesn’t. And he never will. He’s not capable of it.

By doing things like creating sites to mock his behaviors, posting in IMDB, or going so far as to write a wiki entry? You’re taking things too far.

When pressed to describe the entire Torah, Written and Oral, in a single sentence, the sage Hillel responded “Do not do to your fellow man what is hateful to you; the rest is details”.

All of us have fallen very, very short of that.

Let’s just ignore him gang. Just like you would an autistic child having a fit in a public place.

MacQuarrie
03-29-2006, 01:04 PM
You know what? It's not fun anymore. Jim Fisher is a frigging headcase, and taunting him is just mocking the handicapped.

Walking away (again).

I just sent him an e-mail:


SUBJECT: Okay, I'm done. That's enough for me.

Fisher,

I ignored you for the last nine months. I ignored you for months before that, until you put up that ridiculous tirade about me on your cobweb page.

I'm going back to ignoring you.

I've reported every IMDb post in which you mention me or allude to me to the administrators as libelous. And now I'm done. I won't be posting there anymore, but I will be reading, and I will report every post in which you lie about me.

Go find yourself another nemesis. I am not the source of all your problems, and I have not in any way interfered in anything except your attempts to defraud and lie to people. And I'm not even going to bother to do that anymore.

Dealing with you is like kicking a retarded kid. It's just mean.

Bye.

Jim

I've been told that this e-mail is "a stupid attempt to get last licks, childish, and unworthy" of me. It probably is. But there it is.

He can go ahead and have the last word.

Typo Lad
03-29-2006, 01:07 PM
I fully fess up as the person who told Jim he was being childish.

I'm sorry but "I'm IGNORING YOU, you CRAZYHEAD", strikes me as such.

kcarroll
03-29-2006, 02:15 PM
I'm sorry, but I still love me some J-Bolt craziness.

I recognize that there are those of you that are concerned that he is unstable, but I still think it's really funny.

I have not gone out of my way anymore than to post occasional questions, but I read everything he posts with a borderline obsession. Those of you that believe this enjoyment as mean-spirited or insensitive toward the psychologically handicapped, I hope you can find it in your hearts to make up some psychological excuse for me as well.

I think he's a con-man. I think he's not a very bright con-man, but he's a con-man nonetheless. I equate the interraction with J-Bolt to that of the spam-baiter. Every moment spent distracting him with questions is a moment he's not actually stealing money from someone else.

MacQuarrie
03-29-2006, 03:24 PM
Not that he ever successfully stole much money in the first place.

Magneto_X
03-29-2006, 03:27 PM
Disregard post.

kcarroll
03-29-2006, 03:31 PM
"Not that he ever successfully stole much money in the first place."

true, but not for lack of trying.

I was growing weary of the defense of j-bolt. There is no evidence that he is mentally challenged. There is evidence that he's a lying tool that interviews himself and tries to pass it off as independent journalism.

That's not insanity. It's stupidity, and it's funny. But maybe just to Mac and his ilk.

sk716
03-29-2006, 04:08 PM
"Not that he ever successfully stole much money in the first place."

true, but not for lack of trying.

I was growing weary of the defense of j-bolt. There is no evidence that he is mentally challenged. There is evidence that he's a lying tool that interviews himself and tries to pass it off as independent journalism.

That's not insanity. It's stupidity, and it's funny. But maybe just to Mac and his ilk.

I don't believe he's unbalanced, either. I think he's a liar, a con-man, and a self-aggrandizing dumb-ass, but not unbalanced. He also occasionally behaves as a child who has had his toy taken away. And I know many other adult males who behave like children when they don't get their way.

I'm not going to actively mess with him, but I am going to keep the ongoing record in the same place I've kept it since J-Bolted. So, don't go looking at me if a Wikipedia entry appears.

Cam63
03-29-2006, 04:56 PM
I missed some of the J-Bolt goodness due to the admins' at imdb.com having deleted a batch of posts.

MacQuarrie
03-30-2006, 02:57 AM
Did someone save his last, eyesore of an answer? It's already been deleted.
It's back up. Somebody should copy it.

Somebody should also tell him that "whereas" does not mean what he thinks it does.

Cam63
03-30-2006, 04:00 AM
He probably thinks " whereas " means " where's my ass ? "

MacQuarrie
03-30-2006, 04:20 AM
He probably thinks " whereas " means " where's my ass ? "
He obviously doesn't know that it means "because."

It does crack me up when he describes his borderline illiteracy as bad spelling, when he habitually misuses words and clearly does not know their meaning.

Cam63
03-30-2006, 04:57 AM
I'd be surprised if he knew how to operate the zipper on his dacks.

MacQuarrie
06-20-2006, 04:54 PM
I guess J-Bolt managed to collect enough recyclables to pay his GoDaddy bill, because his site is back up. Unchanged, but back.

Apparently I am still his bete noir. Cool.

TomStillwell
06-20-2006, 05:46 PM
Wow. This was my first chance to look at his site. That guy is all kinds of crazy.

I especially liked the About section.

sk716
06-20-2006, 05:53 PM
*sigh*

Another false alarm...

Lester C.
06-20-2006, 05:56 PM
It sucks I missed the whole J-bolt thing.

MacQuarrie
06-20-2006, 06:39 PM
*sigh*

Another false alarm...

Sorry, SK. I was hoping for something new too. But meanwhile, I found this:
http://reelmind.com/asfroot/j-bolt/default.php?movie_id=&speed=&ck=21065
Nothing new here, but it's still fun.

sk716
06-20-2006, 06:46 PM
*sigh*

And when is he ever going to finish remodelling that site. I vote we introduce him to Geeklog and then make him a special LBE layout!

He'll never use it, but it would sure irritate him into coming out long enough to call us bashers and insist he's not Jim Fisher.

MacQuarrie
06-20-2006, 07:15 PM
Okay, here's some actual J-Bolt news.

http://www.comicon.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=010442&p=2#000058

One of the people that J-Bolt claimed was involved in his project is a publicist named Judith A. Moose. She recently posted at Comicon.com in the J-Bolt thread, saying:

"Yes, and I know Mac, and I know how he asked, politely. You're missing rather a crucial element, that J-Bolt constantly TELLS people to contact these people involved with him. He TOLD us to contact a comics shop in Las Vegas, Judith Moose, and Jaki Barstow, among several others. On top of that, many people who know him emailed ME out of the blue."

I was wandering around on a search engine and ran across this message board. I'm not sure of when all of this drama was taking place but I can assure you that if he was telling anyone to contact Jaki Baskow or me in 2004 that there is definitely something wrong with this picture. Jaki does not represent him nor does she wish to and I dropped him from my client roster in January 2001.
To which useless deluded troll OMAR replies:
Wow, they just keep crawling out from under the rocks to revive this thread, don't they? Real fans of LBC know what the score is - and all the cheap, easy lies in the world can't change that!
No wonder people thought they were the same person.

MacQuarrie
06-20-2006, 07:17 PM
*sigh*

And when is he ever going to finish remodelling that site. I vote we introduce him to Geeklog and then make him a special LBE layout!

He'll never use it, but it would sure irritate him into coming out long enough to call us bashers and insist he's not Jim Fisher.
I've offered. Many times. I've offered to host his site, to build him a new one, to set up real forums for him so he could dump that cheesy BraveNet setup... he doesn't love me anymore.

sk716
06-20-2006, 09:14 PM
I've offered. Many times. I've offered to host his site, to build him a new one, to set up real forums for him so he could dump that cheesy BraveNet setup... he doesn't love me anymore.

Doesn't matter, we should do it anyway to amuse ourselves!

Now, let's see, we're gonna need a black background with some lightning....

TomStillwell
06-20-2006, 09:18 PM
If I understand everything I've read correctly this "publisher" never actually published anything? Twenty years ago he decided to make a comic and never actually made it? He went around and talked all this stuff and never created anything?

Lame.

What exactly is this OMAR guy a fan of? Delusional fantasties?

I'm boggled here. He puts Bill Brasky to shame.

MacQuarrie
06-20-2006, 11:03 PM
You correctly understand everything you've read.

It's Pathology on Parade. I miss the guy.

PatrickG
06-20-2006, 11:38 PM
Well... This is a better synopsis.

A guy out in Nevada made up a bunch of characters in high school. He became convinced that they were golden, that pros were stealing his ideas.

He gets married, has a kid, teaches some non-credit community college classes (including one with an actual soon-to-be-name artist).

He writes some crank editorial pieces for a local publication on how the mall discriminates by not letting people smoke inside.

In 2001, this guy creates a five page ashcan along with a section where he interviews himself. He begins trying to build up buzz for a movie. Concocts the story that he has dozens of employees. Tries to market his ashcan in a variety of formats. Prestends to have a staff. Starts refering to his sunglasses as a "mask" and goes by a pseudonym.

He lies about a bunch of famous actors who are "rumored" to be involved. Pressured by online fans, he starts posting fake casting lists.

Gail investigates him and discovers something she never revealed to us. Mac orders posters which he never gets, leading to threats. He responds with a threat to sue, small claims. J-Bolt flips.

Along the way, J-Bolt gets a real publicist which he quickly loses and Jackson Bostwick (TV's Captain Marvel) as a co-producer.

More chaos. Some people here create a fake fansite. J-Bolt flips out at IMDB after the fansite is revealed as fake, takes his toys and goes home.

Oh. And I had an e-mail conversation with Bruce Campbell about him.

PatrickG
06-20-2006, 11:42 PM
Oh. Speaking of shamelessly plugging ashcans, I've been very unJolt worthy in my (lack of) self-promotion for my own ashcan:

http://www.comixpress.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=533

No plans for a special edition hardcover. I use no pseudonyms. I have an op-ed piece but no self-interview. No movie plans.

I'll admit this book is on hold. No fibs. No nothing. I'll get back to it eventually, time and money permitting.

Gail Simone
06-21-2006, 12:08 AM
He did also produce one 'finished' comic, that I don't believe was ever actually printed anywhere but on his website, and claimed that he was supporting his dozens of staff with sales from his website, even though the links to buy anything at his site were broken for a year.

Gail

OzBat!
06-21-2006, 12:19 AM
Was that the one you had to sign up for to access the "exclusive" portion of his website? That somebody went and provided all the direct links to each page anyway?

That was fun! I wonder how much he paid his extensive staff of web designers for THAT little cock-up in basic server security... :D

MacQuarrie
06-21-2006, 01:57 AM
Oh. And I had an e-mail conversation with Bruce Campbell about him.
Oh, so you're the one that was running around contacting celebrities and scaring them off the project. And all this time I thought he was falsely accusing me....

Forsaken_One
06-21-2006, 07:07 AM
Y'all are still talking about this guy? Jesus...

OzBat!
06-21-2006, 08:05 AM
Nonono, we're talking about Jesus in the three or four religious threads on the community board!

TomStillwell
06-21-2006, 08:28 AM
We as humans can't look away from slow train wrecks. It's our nature.

This guy clearly has some mental/emotional problems that he's ignoring.

What gets me is the ease of actually making his "dream" come true if he had just taken the proper steps.

I'm a guy who had my own characters and thought they'd make a good superhero comic book. I found out a friend of mine was a damn good artist with his light under a bushel. He did a nice treatment of my designs and improved on them. I learned to script and plot, we learned together how to make a comic.

Neither of us had any experience beforehand. Just a will to create and the drive to learn the ins and outs.

I got involved in groups about making comics. I talked to creators. I networked at shows. When the book was finally available for purchase I did a few shows myself.

I'm the one-man show that runs my site. I handle all the sales from my store. I work on the marketing, PR, deal with the printer, different shops across the country who I consign to...I handle all this so my artist can just work on what he does best.

When you get that book in the mail from Spinner Rack Comics, I'm the guy who bagged and boarded it.

Self publishing costs money but not a whole lot, otherwise my wife would be quite as supportive as she's been.

So it's possible to make the dream of creating and selling a book a reality. J-Bolt wasn't some dreamer denied his dream by impossible factors.

He's just some loser who started of his quest for comic book fame by lying as much as possible and not putting as much work into creating as he did into fabrication.

What a pathetic person. A failure and fraud by his own hand who has done nothing but blame those who would have helped . Gail deserves a halo for treating him was as much class and compassion as humanly possible.

Some people here create a fake fansite.

That's gold. I wish I had been around to see it.

Pat, I'm going to pick up your book with my next order to comixpress. It looks good.

Shade
06-21-2006, 08:37 AM
Was that the one you had to sign up for to access the "exclusive" portion of his website? That somebody went and provided all the direct links to each page anyway?

That was fun! I wonder how much he paid his extensive staff of web designers for THAT little cock-up in basic server security... :D

Well you know, they did have those "mainframe" issues there for a while....so the security breach probably came about during that time.

the4thpip
06-21-2006, 08:40 AM
That's gold. I wish I had been around to see it.


You missed out on the4thbolt asking J-Bolt who his greated influence as a humanitarian was... And getting a straight-faced answer! :eek:

Jared_Humpherys
06-21-2006, 10:07 AM
You missed out on the4thbolt asking J-Bolt who his greated influence as a humanitarian was... And getting a straight-faced answer! :eek:


IIRC, wasn't the answer himself?

MacQuarrie
06-21-2006, 10:10 AM
Tom, there are a whole bunch of simple rules to life that J-Bolt never learned:

"You can't learn anything you think you already know."

"You can't get out of a hole by digging."

"Some things are hard; if they were easy, everyone would do them. Those are the things worth doing."

"If you spend a lot of time talking aobut what you're going to do, you burn up all the energy and excitement that you could have used to actually do those things. Don't talk about what you're going to do; do what you're going to do, and then talk about what you did."

"It's easier to stand on the ground to tell the truth than to climb a tree to lie."

Most mature people have at least an instinctive grasp of these concepts. J-Bolt doesn't. He's more interested in finding people to blame for his failures than being honest with people who can help him succeed.

And yes, you missed some hilarity with the JBolted site. I wish I had the archives.

I DO have some transcripts from his own message forums. They're a bit incoherent since they're just text-grabs and not threaded properly, but you can find them at http://www.monkeyspit.net/jbolt.txt

Lester C.
06-21-2006, 10:14 AM
Tom, there are a whole bunch of simple rules to life that J-Bolt never learned:

"You can't learn anything you think you already know."

"You can't get out of a hole by digging."

"Some things are hard; if they were easy, everyone would do them. Those are the things worth doing."

"If you spend a lot of time talking aobut what you're going to do, you burn up all the energy and excitement that you could have used to actually do those things. Don't talk about what you're going to do; do what you're going to do, and then talk about what you did."

"It's easier to stand on the ground to tell the truth than to climb a tree to lie."

Most mature people have at least an instinctive grasp of these concepts. J-Bolt doesn't. He's more interested in finding people to blame for his failures than being honest with people who can help him succeed.

And yes, you missed some hilarity with the JBolted site. I wish I had the archives.

I DO have some transcripts from his own message forums. They're a bit incoherent since they're just text-grabs and not threaded properly, but you can find them at http://www.monkeyspit.net/jbolt.txt

Thank you for that post Jim. The rules of life have been copied and pasted on my computer.

Sabrinaset
06-21-2006, 10:27 AM
One of the people that J-Bolt claimed was involved in his project is a publicist named Judith A. Moose.

AHA! NOW we know why Mac joined the Bull Moose Party!

TomStillwell
06-21-2006, 10:30 AM
If only we could copy those rules into the heads of everyone on the planet.

Thanks for the link, MacQuarrie. Good times.

Spackling Compound
06-21-2006, 10:30 AM
Another rule of life:

"If you want to kick a bent man, you have to bend a little lower."

I thought it was decided many months ago that J was suffering from some illness.

Spackling Compound
06-21-2006, 10:32 AM
If only we could copy those rules into the heads of everyone on the planet.

Thanks for the link, MacQuarrie. Good times.
http://www.personal.psu.edu/faculty/k/x/kxk30/laws.htm

Red Jack
06-21-2006, 10:34 AM
"It's easier to stand on the ground to tell the truth than to climb a tree to lie."

This one took me a minute, I admit. I enjoy a good tree climb.

Part of the reason J-Bolt comes back is because people like me, new to the forum, stumble on the old discussion and, in my case at least, become fascinated.

It's like watching the effect of a black hole's gravity well without actually being able to see the hole itself.

Or, like a religious faith in a way, there are those who have interacted with J-Bolt, read his words, seen his wisdom, and those, like me, who can only hear the tales and marvel and the sheer incredulous bullet train momentum of what seems to be a particularly and deliciously delusional person.

Even if the whole thing is just a complex and beautifully executed hoax, it's a marvelous example of the internet's version of the roadside attraction.

Either way J-Bolt lives. He will outlive all of us. Just like the world's biggest ball of rubberbands or The Thing or Hitler's Staff Car.

As long as there is a nethead anywhere willing to do a spit take over bogus claims and lunatic ravings, J-Bolt will live. And that makes me feel strangely comforted somehow.

There's a little J-Bolt in all of us after all.

Okay. There really isn't. But it sounded good.

TomStillwell
06-21-2006, 11:50 AM
Mac (if I may be so informal), that link was a trip.

You guys did a great job of asking pointed questions yet hiding it behind being the fans of LBC he so desperately wanted to believe existed.

Whoever played the part of Ariel, my hat is off to you.

Did you ever find out if Heather was real or not?

The whole Bolt thing...hilarious.

He used Stillwell as the last name for one of his characters. I'm suing, me and all the Stillwells are going to bring a class action.

Boy, that thing sucked me in. I better get back to work.

Gail Simone
06-21-2006, 12:30 PM
Heather will always be real as long as we all clap our hands and shout, I DO believe in fairies!

Gail

TomStillwell
06-21-2006, 12:39 PM
Fairies? Are you saying Heather is a Lebian?

Damn bashers!

the4thpip
06-21-2006, 12:54 PM
IIRC, wasn't the answer himself?
Nah, I seem to remember he went for the usual suspects... Gandhi, Mother Terry, Hay-sus...

Gail Simone
06-21-2006, 01:22 PM
I think he mostly felt there weren't many real humanitarians.

Gail

TomStillwell
06-21-2006, 01:59 PM
Did anyone actually see the ashcan or #0 comics he had online? If so was it any good?

I can't really tell much from the few graphics on the site.

It would be a shame if J-Bolt had real talent that was hindered by his other issues.

Sorry if I'm drudging up ancient history for some of you folks. This whole thing has me fascinated. I have a degree in psychology and this is a great case study of delusional behavior turned up to 11.

Gail Simone
06-21-2006, 02:21 PM
The ashcan was hilarious. He pretended to be an investigative reporter and interviewed himself. It sounds like a joke, but he was dead serious.

The comic...eh. The writing was hideous. A true abomination. He makes Ed Wood look like a genius. The art...if he had an editor and some discipline, I think he could be a pro, but there's a lot of lazy, sloppy work covered by too much color and effects. It's a fun read, but for the wrong reasons.

Gail

MacQuarrie
06-21-2006, 02:33 PM
Did anyone actually see the ashcan or #0 comics he had online? If so was it any good?
It's there. You just have to manually change all the links from teh old domain URL to the new one.

Example:

http://www.lightning-bolt-comics.com/Comics/Ashcan/WLS0ashcan1.html
is a dead link. Change it to

http://www.lightningboltentertainment.com/Comics/Ashcan/WLS0ashcan1.html
And there's the ashcan.

Enjoy.

You can also find a lot of other interesting J-Bolt art at http://jboltmania.jbolted.com

TomStillwell
06-21-2006, 02:34 PM
The ashcan was hilarious. He pretended to be an investigative reporter and interviewed himself. It sounds like a joke, but he was dead serious.

Oh my. That's gold. Gold!!! I'll remember to use that trick for my next issue.

From what I can tell, this guy probably would have sold a bunch of comics if he had actually made something and delivered the goods. I know I'd pay to read his book after all the bread and circuses. I'm betting many people here would have too.

It's like people buying a Paris Hilton CD. You know it will suck badly but you just have to hear the suckitude yourself.

MacQuarrie
06-21-2006, 02:39 PM
If I had a dollar for every person who looked at a J-Bolt post and said "that's gold" I'd be filthy rich. I won't torment him anymore, but he's still the gift that keeps on giving.

AndrewCrossett
06-21-2006, 02:44 PM
Hmmm...Lightning Bolt Comics sounded familiar to me. But upon further investigation I seem to have been remembering this (http://www.misterkitty.org/extras/stupidcovers/stupidcomics50.html).

Or maybe this (http://www.misterkitty.org/extras/stupidcovers/stupidcomics48.html).

No, wait, I was thinking of Lightning Comics (http://www.misterkitty.org/extras/stupidcovers/stupidcomics36.html).

Red Jack
06-21-2006, 03:12 PM
I STILL haven't seen any physical example of his product. You all keep alluding to the fact that he actually had talent but was just too delusional to apply it properly.

Does any art exist anywhere? edit: aside from the cover of the ashcan.

sk716
06-21-2006, 03:55 PM
Tom, there are a whole bunch of simple rules to life that J-Bolt never learned:

"You can't learn anything you think you already know."

"You can't get out of a hole by digging."

"Some things are hard; if they were easy, everyone would do them. Those are the things worth doing."

"If you spend a lot of time talking aobut what you're going to do, you burn up all the energy and excitement that you could have used to actually do those things. Don't talk about what you're going to do; do what you're going to do, and then talk about what you did."

"It's easier to stand on the ground to tell the truth than to climb a tree to lie."

Most mature people have at least an instinctive grasp of these concepts. J-Bolt doesn't. He's more interested in finding people to blame for his failures than being honest with people who can help him succeed.

And yes, you missed some hilarity with the JBolted site. I wish I had the archives.

I DO have some transcripts from his own message forums. They're a bit incoherent since they're just text-grabs and not threaded properly, but you can find them at http://www.monkeyspit.net/jbolt.txt

There are some archives. The forums (http://www.jbolted.com/originalforum/index.php) are preserved just as they we're they are just shifted so noone can use them. I'm sure I still have the original HTML pages on my PC. Maybe it's been long enough I can put them back up.

And don't forget J-Bolt Mania (http://jboltmania.jbolted.com), the official repository for all of the J-Bolt goodness.

There is more tucked away here (http://www.jbolted.com/protected/). I don't remember the username and password anymore so I'll have to unprotect the directory.

sk716
06-21-2006, 04:01 PM
I STILL haven't seen any physical example of his product. You all keep alluding to the fact that he actually had talent but was just too delusional to apply it properly.

Does any art exist anywhere? edit: aside from the cover of the ashcan.

Visit J-Bolt Mania (http://jboltmania.jbolted.com/article.php?story=20050501014543573). There are full instructions to see every page of his comics. I can't believe even after all of that he still didn't have the sense to password protect the directory.

Red Jack
06-21-2006, 05:06 PM
Visit J-Bolt Mania (http://jboltmania.jbolted.com/article.php?story=20050501014543573). There are full instructions to see every page of his comics. I can't believe even after all of that he still didn't have the sense to password protect the directory.

Thanks.........

edit: Dear god.

edit: Dear god.

edit: You guys are brutal. Clearly this is the work of a child. Have you no pity?

sk716
06-21-2006, 05:28 PM
Thanks.........

edit: Dear god.

edit: Dear god.

edit: You guys are brutal. Clearly this is the work of a child. Have you no pity?

None whatsoever.

palaeomerus
06-21-2006, 06:23 PM
The ashcan was hilarious. He pretended to be an investigative reporter and interviewed himself. It sounds like a joke, but he was dead serious.

The comic...eh. The writing was hideous. A true abomination. He makes Ed Wood look like a genius. The art...if he had an editor and some discipline, I think he could be a pro, but there's a lot of lazy, sloppy work covered by too much color and effects. It's a fun read, but for the wrong reasons.

Gail

Demon Dawn is the single greatest piece of art ever created and probably represents the absolute pinnacle of human achievement for the next two thousand years.

Other than that you are quite correct.

By the way Gail, since you are a well known Lebian I'd really like to know just who the hell Lebes was what the hell is so special about him/her? Sociologist? Political Scientist? Philosopher? Artist? Film Director? Poet? Fiction Writer? Ornithologist?

If Lebes fought Hegel who would win? How about Lebes vs. Audobon?
I searched Wikipedia and found nothing.

TomStillwell
06-21-2006, 07:00 PM
You guys have a whole website devoted to this joker. That's beautiful.

I want you all to bear my children. You have my undying regard.

Red Jack
06-21-2006, 07:15 PM
You guys have a whole website devoted to this joker. That's beautiful.

I want you all to bear my children. You have my undying regard.

Hey. I checked out HONOR BRIGADE. Nice work.

How do you do the code for the web comic version?

Image has something like it on their site as well.

Crowley
06-21-2006, 07:18 PM
you guys...

we CREATED his FAN FORUM!

tricked him and OMAR into thinking it was genuine for 2 MONTHS and then pulled the rug out from under the bastard...

http://www.jbolted.com/originalforum/index.php

it was awesome!

Crowley
06-21-2006, 07:24 PM
ah memories... my final post to J-Dolt:
http://www.jbolted.com/originalforum/viewtopic.php?t=87

TomStillwell
06-21-2006, 08:03 PM
Thanks Jack.

How do you do the code for the web comic version?

Actually, you'd have to talk to my website dude. I'm clueless on how all that stuff work. A good friend of mine handles it. He's in design school and I let him use it as a project for his classes.

If you e-mail the admin addy on the site he might even answer. He's a bit anti-social. I'm not even sure he likes me.

I'm sure you're all amazed to find that my site doesn't have a web design team who I spend thousands of dollars on in conjunction with a mainframe.

My friend works for free comics/posters and a chance to practice. The whole thing doesn't cost me $20 per month.

Yet believe it or not all the links work.;)

Red Jack
06-21-2006, 08:14 PM
ah memories... my final post to J-Dolt:
http://www.jbolted.com/originalforum/viewtopic.php?t=87


What I don't get is what this guy did to get this– I hesitate to call it a feud– started?

This is a lot of work put in.

Granted he's clearly a raving loon but did he come out, guns blazing? What was his beef with Gail?

TomStillwell
06-21-2006, 09:02 PM
Just from the stuff I've read in the last day or two it he's come off as a major jerk, liar, and thief.

I just finished reading through J-Bolted, That's awesome. The guy goes off pretty well on his own...but give him a forum where he thinks he's god? Lordy!

I don't know how you contained yourselves.

It reminds me of a time some friends of mine and I decided to create a fictional anime series called Ninja Demonicron to illustrate how some manga fans will buy into anything. Someone started to talk about it and we followed up adding our own ad lib posts.

"I really liked when Big Teno used the Solar Hammer to defeat Master Sai of the Temple of The Four Lotus."

"I like Teno but he has no idea Sishi is in love with him!"

On we went, flaming each at points of disagreement even. Finally we had people looking all over for ND bootlegs. We felt it was cruel by then and admitted our prank.

The funny thing is...our made up stuff sounded pretty cool.

I need to find that thread.

sk716
06-21-2006, 09:09 PM
Just from the stuff I've read in the last day or two it he's come off as a major jerk, liar, and thief.

I just finished reading through J-Bolted, That's awesome. The guy goes off pretty well on his own...but give him a forum where he thinks he's god? Lordy!

I don't know how you contained yourselves.

Barely. The good news is, you can't hear someone laughing over the internet. There was a special Mods Section on the J-Bolted forum so we could communicate and otherwise plan our next moves. For a couple of weeks only a handful of us knew that J-Bolted was not the real thing.

It reminds me of a time some friends of mine and I decided to create a fictional anime series called Ninja Demonicron to illustrate how some manga fans will buy into anything. Someone started to talk about it and we followed up adding our own ad lib posts.

"I really liked when Big Teno used the Solar Hammer to defeat Master Sai of the Temple of The Four Lotus."

"I like Teno but he has no idea Sishi is in love with him!"

On we went, flaming each at points of disagreement even. Finally we had people looking all over for ND bootlegs. We felt it was cruel by then and admitted our prank.

The funny thing is...our made up stuff sounded pretty cool.

I need to find that thread.

Good one.

sk716
06-21-2006, 09:24 PM
What I don't get is what this guy did to get this– I hesitate to call it a feud– started?

There is nothing like a little belligerency (That's not even a real word, see you have to make up words when J-Bolt is involved.) to incite someone to do mean things. Once you've sifted through all of the evidence(?) you'll understand a little better.

This is a lot of work put in.

No, not really. I slapped together J-Bolted in a couple of days making it as sloppy and amaturish as possible. When it first went up, I even had a bad link. I wrote a few lines of b.s. embellished by an unnamed little blue duck and another guy with a royal handle. Even a drunken Australian was in on the gag. I don't even think we told Mac it was us until we were already in full swing (plausable deniabiliy).

Granted he's clearly a raving loon but did he come out, guns blazing?

Yes, apparently, that's his style.

What was his beef with Gail?

I think it's because she offered to help him.

Red Jack
06-21-2006, 11:10 PM
There is nothing like a little belligerency (That's not even a real word, see you have to make up words when J-Bolt is involved.) to incite someone to do mean things. Once you've sifted through all of the evidence(?) you'll understand a little better.

Yeah. I'm still on on page 60 of the big thread.

I think it's because she offered to help him.

Damn.

Pardon me.

Daaaaaaaaaaaaamn.

Crowley
06-21-2006, 11:33 PM
you should both know that SK is an Internet Goddess.

She KICKS sooooo much ass!

Magneto_X
06-21-2006, 11:46 PM
What I don't get is what this guy did to get this– I hesitate to call it a feud– started?

This is a lot of work put in.

Granted he's clearly a raving loon but did he come out, guns blazing? What was his beef with Gail?

If anything J-Bolt should be *thanking* Gail. She has put in plenty of time and gave him advice when she didn't have to! She evn offered to write a script for him! Naturally he turned her down. :confused:

I don't know about you, but if Gail offered to write something for a comic series I made I'd jump at the chance.

Plus she interview him once.

the4thpip
06-22-2006, 01:38 AM
IIRC, wasn't the answer himself?
Wow, I remembered wrong and you were right:

-humanitarian acts: I haven't seen too many people actually DO Humanitarian acts that have influenced me. Oprah makes BILLIONS but will start a charity, then take credit for it, Maury Povich has done a few good deeds, but those get over-shadowed by his tendancy to make his show more like Jerry Springer. I've seen a few good deeds, in my time, but I've never really seen a good "humanitarian." So, I guess, I'll just have to influence myself and make sure that I keep doing what's right, on my own merit. I don't mean to sound boastful with that answer, but can anyone really think of a GOOD HUMANITARIAN to be influenced by? I was raised in the days when comics gave us hope and REAL heroes, not heroes that we're almost as afraid of, as the villain. Therefore, I modelled my sense of humanitarianism based on those comic book morals: "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few," "save whoever you can, no matter what the risk/cost to yourself," etc. Stuff like that is what I grew up with and it was a hard fall down when I grew up and learned that the Police, Fire Departments, Politicians, News Industry, all the people that we grew up believing in,... we're, in actuality,... as corrupt as the crooks, if not more. Now, in comics, characters, who had the highest morals, go nuts and start killing people, they don't show the reality of corruption in the World, as it should be...so that kids won't grow up, thinking they're safe, when the truth is quite the opposite. The "Humanitarians" do what they do for tax write-offs, even if they, personally, don't do it. So, I guesss I'm just gonna' have to keep an eye out on myself and make sure MY values don't get twisted... maybe keep looking up the word "humanitarian," once in a while... just to remind myself what I want to be. Then be it.
I guess that would have to stand as my answer, as confusing as it sounds.
J- Cool

PatrickG
06-22-2006, 02:24 AM
I find it peculiar that Oprah Winfrey and Maury Povich come up as the first two names in a discussion about humanitarians.

Maybe Oprah, I guess. But it's interesting he picks two day time personalities.

The names that come to mind for me are:

Andrew Carnegie, Martin Luther King, Jerry Lewis, Bono, Bill Gates, Ted Turner, Albert Einstein.

MacQuarrie
06-22-2006, 02:37 AM
What I don't get is what this guy did to get this– I hesitate to call it a feud– started?

This is a lot of work put in.

Granted he's clearly a raving loon but did he come out, guns blazing? What was his beef with Gail?
Short answer:

J-Bolt showed up here, and on the Ellis forum and a few other comics sites, tooting his horn and announcing the opening of his new website promoting his comics and soon-to-start-production major motion picture. So we all went and looked at his site, in which he solicited monthly subscriptions to access his content, which has not changed in 5 years.

Anyway, the original version of his site included a lot of grandiose claims, such as that "early critics and fans" believe this will be the first comics-based film to win the Academy Award. (When it was pointed out to him that several comics-based films had already won Oscars, that claim disappeared.) You can see some of the early site at the Wayback Machine.

For me it became personal when he went on the attack. He had listed several individuals on the site as beign participants in the project, including his publicist and agent. Curious, and having seen him already called out by other for various untruths and factual errors, I googled up his agent's website and sent a polite e-mail enquiring about her involvement with J-Bolt. She replied with an e-mail asking me to call her, so I did. We chatted for a few minutes, and she stated that she was not representing him at all, had only met him once, and her total involvement was putting him in touch with the man who is allegedly directing this film. I reported the conversation here.

J-Bolt fired back with a transcript of a supposed phone call of his own, in which the publicist called him up and said that I was a crazy loon who was harassing her with all my questions and attacks.

There are a lot of things I will put up with, but being called a liar and accused of doing things I did not do are sure ways to put me on the warpath. Being irish/scot, I have very little aversion to fighting to the death against impossible odds. My primary concern is not winning, it's inflicting as much pain on the other guy as I possibly can. J-Bolt chose to screw with the wrong guy that day. It's been war ever since.

Eventually, after a protracted scorched-earth battle here and on his own forums, J-Bolt waved the white flag, asked forgiveness, and posted a "can we start over?" message here. We all buried the hatchet and gave him a second chance. People offered helpful advice which he accepted gracefully. People answered his questions and explained the realities of comic publishing to him. It went pretty well for a couple of weeks. Then the ego came creeping back in, followed by the psychotic refusal to ever admit an error and the arrogant attitude we thought he had overcome. In a very short time, J-Bolt was worse than ever. Finally he took his ball and went home.

Months passed. Eventually we settled into a cycle, which I think may follow his bipolar cycle (some people have suggested that he may be bi-polar or schizophrenic; I've spoken to him on the phone for several hours, and I do not see any disconnect from reality, what I see is a bullshit artist) in which he goes silent for long periods of time, then pops up and starts some new scheme, like peddling shares of the film's profits on Ebay or listing the project on IMDB in an attempt to create the illusion of legitimacy.

If your web-fu is strong, you can find hints of items he's posted on various film and investment sites seeking backers. He's not crazy, he's gloriously incompetent. But he also has such a raging ego that he thinks he's smarter than everyone else and can bluff and hype his way past everyone. See my bit about inept people: http://www.monkeyspit.net/rantman/inept.php J-Bolt is inept, and the skills he would need in order to be competent are the same skills necessary to assess competence. He's too dumb to know he's dumb.

Fos ome of us, J-Bolt is a freak show. For others, a horrible slow-motion train wreck guaranteed to end badly. For others, he's street theater. For me, keeping an eye on him is just plain old prudence. He's determined to rip somebody off, and I'm not going to let him.

TomStillwell
06-22-2006, 08:43 AM
it was a hard fall down when I grew up and learned that the Police, Fire Departments, Politicians, News Industry,...all the people that we grew up believing in,... we're, in actuality,... as corrupt as the crooks, if not more.

I surely hate those damn corrupt firemen. Taking bribes to look the other way when arsonists start fires and whatnot. The system is rampant with those bastards! Lazing about in their plush firehouses on their La-Z-Boy recliners with all that sweet, sweet arsonist payoff money in their bank accounts. Bastards!!!

Yeah, corrupt firemen. Unbelievable.

AndrewCrossett
06-22-2006, 08:49 AM
I surely hate those damn corrupt firemen. Taking bribes to look the other way when arsonists start fires and whatnot. The system is rampant with those bastards! Lazing about in their plush firehouses on their La-Z-Boy recliners with all that sweet, sweet arsonist payoff money in their bank accounts. Bastards!!!

Yeah, corrupt firemen. Unbelievable.

Those corrupt garbagemen are even worse. One time I forgot to separate my recyclables. Next day I find a corsage hanging on my front door with a note on it saying "for your grieving widow."

And I'm not even married.

Gail Simone
06-22-2006, 08:55 AM
I surely hate those damn corrupt firemen. Taking bribes to look the other way when arsonists start fires and whatnot. The system is rampant with those bastards! Lazing about in their plush firehouses on their La-Z-Boy recliners with all that sweet, sweet arsonist payoff money in their bank accounts. Bastards!!!

Yeah, corrupt firemen. Unbelievable.

He had a long story at one point about how some corrupt firemen had left some old person to die or some such, while he bravely fought the fire.

It was awesome.

Gail

OMAR
06-22-2006, 09:17 AM
The ashcan was hilarious. He pretended to be an investigative reporter and interviewed himself. It sounds like a joke, but he was dead serious.

The comic...eh. The writing was hideous. A true abomination. He makes Ed Wood look like a genius. The art...if he had an editor and some discipline, I think he could be a pro, but there's a lot of lazy, sloppy work covered by too much color and effects. It's a fun read, but for the wrong reasons.

Gail

Personal taste will differ, of course - I found the ashcan to be exciting and gripping, but I wasn't viewing it through the eyes of a professional writer, just a long-time comics fan. I found it to be very comparable to the early Valiant titles, in that it was a promising set up with some new twists on familiar concepts.

But this business with the interview was clarified by J-Bolt himself some time ago, and settled once and for all:

"Omar...
Your question has been asked and answered several times, but the forum has been taken down from my company site and it sounds as though the bash forums have taken the answer off of their forums: most likely because it showed them to be the fools they are, which they just won't allow.
Jim Fisher: he is an artist/color artist/SFX designer that I've known for quite a long time. He's very shy and doesn't like for his picture to be taken, which means he doesn't like personal exposure. Rather, he prefers that his work be what he's known as, instead of his image.
J.B. Fisher: he is an expose' reporter that I met when I did a little bit of journalism a number of years back, who keeps trying to retire but is asked by different newspapers to do stories for them because he has no problem about making enemies, no matter who they are, when he does his research and writes the stories. When the Ashcan was being put together, I knew that the best way for the interview to be done was by getting the toughest expose' reporter I could think of in order to make the interview a little more spicy. So, I gave him that job. He did his research on me/my company/ the comic that the Ashcan was promoting and we conducted the interview. To give example of how unbiased this guy is, he's even made enemies out of some of his own family members who ran crooked businesses. By the way, the name similarities, between the 2 Fishers, is what caught my attention about him, when we met. That could be construed as coincidence, but it's what opened up conversation between us, when we met.
I hope this helps you and I appreciate your sentry of my interests. I won't forget it."

EdContradictory
06-22-2006, 09:33 AM
He signed his name "J-Cool"?

Something like a J-Bolt only comes across once in a lifetime.

Blessed, YABS is.

TomStillwell
06-22-2006, 09:39 AM
I found the ashcan to be pretty bad. I guess the best thing about it was the art and even that was awful.

The characters...oooo...so bad.

It's like the kind of stuff you create at 13 and think it's awesome. If that took more then a week of work to make I'd be astonished.

J-Bolts seems like the classic munchkin. The guy in D&D who always has to have the most powerful character or the dude writing a fanfic that writes character (based on himself of course) with god-like powers.

He doesn't have a computer. He has a mainframe.

He doesn't self publish. He has a multitude of companies.

He doesn't just have talent. He's a genius mastermind running a vast empire while ducking the jealous powers of the comic industry and saving old people.

OMAR, you seem sort of intelligent. Can't you see through the fabrication? I'm an outsider reading everything and it's pretty clear.

It's good to see you still sentry his interests, though.

TCJohnson
06-22-2006, 09:47 AM
I found the ashcan to be pretty bad. I guess the best thing about it was the art and even that was awful.

The characters...oooo...so bad.

It's like the kind of stuff you create at 13 and think it's awesome. If that took more then a week of work to make I'd be astonished.

That is the thing about him. J-Bolt was told in highschool that he had some talent, which he does, but decided that it was perfect the way it was and didn't try to push it anymore. these are characters he created when he was in high school.

Red Jack
06-22-2006, 10:37 AM
Short answer: cut for length


So it's gladitorial and he keeps coming up short.

I can work with that.

And the blazing incompetence speaks for itself. I think Gail was generous on many fronts, not the least of which was the talent assessment.

MacQuarrie
06-22-2006, 11:43 AM
For those playing at home, OMAR is a contrarian. What that means is, he will automatically take the unpopular side in any dispute and attempt to defend it to the bitter end. Not because he believes it, but because it's all just internet jousting to him, and he thinks he's so smart and so articulate and such a brilliant debater that he has to handicap himself by taking the underdog position just to make it interesting.

Sadly, he's not anywhere near as smart as he thinks he is (see my "inept" piece again), and has no persoanl integrity and does not stand behind his own words when caught in one of his constant falsehoods, equivocations, evasions or other such truth-substitutes. He never concedes a point and never admits it when he's been misled.

His primary goal is not to fight for his cause, it is to stir up random people and try to provoke them to rage.

He is, in short, a troll.

Engage him if you must, but don't take him seriously.

MacQuarrie
06-22-2006, 11:48 AM
Oh, what the hell...
But this business with the interview was clarified by J-Bolt himself some time ago, and settled once and for all:

"Omar...
Your question has been asked and answered several times, but the forum has been taken down from my company site and it sounds as though the bash forums have taken the answer off of their forums: most likely because it showed them to be the fools they are, which they just won't allow.
Jim Fisher: he is an artist/color artist/SFX designer that I've known for quite a long time. He's very shy and doesn't like for his picture to be taken, which means he doesn't like personal exposure. Rather, he prefers that his work be what he's known as, instead of his image.
J.B. Fisher: he is an expose' reporter that I met when I did a little bit of journalism a number of years back, who keeps trying to retire but is asked by different newspapers to do stories for them because he has no problem about making enemies, no matter who they are, when he does his research and writes the stories. When the Ashcan was being put together, I knew that the best way for the interview to be done was by getting the toughest expose' reporter I could think of in order to make the interview a little more spicy. So, I gave him that job. He did his research on me/my company/ the comic that the Ashcan was promoting and we conducted the interview. To give example of how unbiased this guy is, he's even made enemies out of some of his own family members who ran crooked businesses. By the way, the name similarities, between the 2 Fishers, is what caught my attention about him, when we met. That could be construed as coincidence, but it's what opened up conversation between us, when we met.
I hope this helps you and I appreciate your sentry of my interests. I won't forget it."
Okay, Omar, a challenge:

Find one, just one, article or reference to an article by this J.B. Fisher, in any publication, online or off. Prove he exists.

We've already proven by US Copyright records that Jim Fisher is not "artist/color artist/SFX designer that [J-Bolt has] known for quite a long time", but is in fact J-Bolt himself. This is an indisputable fact. I submit that J. B(olt) Fisher is also J-Bolt.

Put up or shut up.

Gail Simone
06-22-2006, 11:49 AM
Hey, Omar!

If J-bolt's not Jim Fisher, which he is and people close to him have told me so including his producer and ex-girlfriend, then why are his creations registered and copyrighted under the name Jim Fisher?

Gail

Typo Lad
06-22-2006, 11:53 AM
Why oh why are we feeding Omar?

Gail Simone
06-22-2006, 11:57 AM
Hey, Omar!

If J-bolt's not Jim Fisher, which he is and people close to him have told me so including his producer and ex-girlfriend, then why are his creations registered and copyrighted under the name Jim Fisher?

Gail

Unless of course, you want to call Captain Marvel a liar... ;-)

As for Image and Valiant comparisons, yes, it's true that the early image stuff broke a lot of promises and had terrible grammar and spelling throughout. However, all of those people also had bodies of work that they HAD produced that they could point at. J-bolt consistantly talks about it, but neither he, nor 'Jim Fisher' have ever been able to show or even point out a single piece of professional work produced for anyone other than LBC.

Gail

TomStillwell
06-22-2006, 11:59 AM
Maybe Jim Fisher is symbolic, like the spirit of America or something.

<stands up>

I AM JIM FISHER!

No, I AM JIM FISHER!!!

Gail Simone
06-22-2006, 12:00 PM
Omar's just playing along. He doesn't believe any of this stuff. It's funny.

Gail

Red Jack
06-22-2006, 12:24 PM
I'm still grappling with how one can "sentry" a post.

TomStillwell
06-22-2006, 12:33 PM
Me too. Every definition of the word is a noun.

Magneto_X
06-22-2006, 12:38 PM
Why oh why are we feeding Omar?

Because J-Bolt isn't around, of course!

the4thpip
06-22-2006, 12:41 PM
For those playing at home, OMAR is a contrarian. What that means is, he will automatically take the unpopular side in any dispute and attempt to defend it to the bitter end. Not because he believes it, but because it's all just internet jousting to him, and he thinks he's so smart and so articulate and such a brilliant debater that he has to handicap himself by taking the underdog position just to make it interesting.

Sadly, he's not anywhere near as smart as he thinks he is (see my "inept" piece again), and has no persoanl integrity and does not stand behind his own words when caught in one of his constant falsehoods, equivocations, evasions or other such truth-substitutes. He never concedes a point and never admits it when he's been misled.

His primary goal is not to fight for his cause, it is to stir up random people and try to provoke them to rage.

He is, in short, a troll.

Engage him if you must, but don't take him seriously.
Ah, that would explain the discussion I had with him about the vocal qualities of Aretha Franklin versus those of Yoko Ono.

PatrickG
06-22-2006, 01:53 PM
Ah, that would explain the discussion I had with him about the vocal qualities of Aretha Franklin versus those of Yoko Ono.

Hey!

Don't blame it on Yokey!

OMAR
06-22-2006, 01:53 PM
Hey, Omar!

If J-bolt's not Jim Fisher, which he is and people close to him have told me so including his producer and ex-girlfriend, then why are his creations registered and copyrighted under the name Jim Fisher?

Gail

I don't know. Look, I'm nobody's idea of an internet detective. I asked J-Bolt about this Fisher fellow who worked on his books, and about the expose reporter who did the interview, and you can read his answer for yourself. Seems pretty straightforward to me. Why would he lie?!

As to the specifics of whatever deal J-Bolt and Fisher worked out regarding ownership of the characters or books they worked on together, I have no inside information. Sounds to me, if what you say is true, like they must have some sort of understanding and to me it just points out Bolt's willingness to share the pie with his collaborators. Good for him, as far as I'm concerned. Too bad the man himself doesn't have much of an online presence these days or we could ask him directly and I'm sure he could elaborate. That a 5-year campaign of hatred and derision was enough to turn him off such interactions is hardly surprising, though.

PatrickG
06-22-2006, 02:01 PM
Y'Know what, OMAR...

You should be J-Bolt's publicist.

You seem to enjoy defending him. You have better spelling and grammer than he does and you don't melt down.

I think you'd be an asset to his family of companies. Why don't you call him up and have him put your resume in his corporate mainframe?

TomStillwell
06-22-2006, 02:09 PM
What, and put Heather Andes out of a job?!!!

Gail Simone
06-22-2006, 02:22 PM
I don't know. Look, I'm nobody's idea of an internet detective. I asked J-Bolt about this Fisher fellow who worked on his books, and about the expose reporter who did the interview, and you can read his answer for yourself. Seems pretty straightforward to me. Why would he lie?!

As to the specifics of whatever deal J-Bolt and Fisher worked out regarding ownership of the characters or books they worked on together, I have no inside information. Sounds to me, if what you say is true, like they must have some sort of understanding and to me it just points out Bolt's willingness to share the pie with his collaborators. Good for him, as far as I'm concerned. Too bad the man himself doesn't have much of an online presence these days or we could ask him directly and I'm sure he could elaborate. That a 5-year campaign of hatred and derision was enough to turn him off such interactions is hardly surprising, though.


See?

Omar's in on the gag. He just has a different approach.

Gail

MacQuarrie
06-22-2006, 02:25 PM
I don't know. Look, I'm nobody's idea of an internet detective. I asked J-Bolt about this Fisher fellow who worked on his books....
And he lied to you.

He told you flat out that he is not Jim Fisher. He told the US Copyright office that the LBC characters were created and owned by Jim "J-Bolt" Fisher. You can keep trying to claim that he told you the truth and lied to Uncle Sam, but Occam is waving his razor and laughing at you.

You are defending a habitual and chronic liar. I refuse to believe you are doing so because you believe him. Nobody who can type is that gullible. (If you do believe him, you can invest in his movie with the money you're getting from that nigerian prince.)

Please. You're not that stupid. Pretending to be in order to stick to you ill-advised defense of this clown is just making you look as foolish as he is. You can't get out of a hole by digging.

Jim Fisher is, by his own admission, J-Bolt. J.B. Fisher, according to Lexis-Nexus, Google, and many other public and private information services, does not exist. Heather Andes, according to those same sources, does not exist.

You are defending a liar and making yourself look like an idiot. Please stop.

Then, once you've conceded that you were conned, you can get around to that apology you owe me for the lies you posted about me at Comicon.com.

OMAR
06-22-2006, 03:21 PM
Unless of course, you want to call Captain Marvel a liar... ;-)

As for Image and Valiant comparisons, yes, it's true that the early image stuff broke a lot of promises and had terrible grammar and spelling throughout. However, all of those people also had bodies of work that they HAD produced that they could point at. J-bolt consistantly talks about it, but neither he, nor 'Jim Fisher' have ever been able to show or even point out a single piece of professional work produced for anyone other than LBC.

Gail

I wasn't thinking of Image but Valiant came to mind because of the new twists that LBC was able to put on some old familiar concepts. Draco and Wolff are both great examples of that - I'm looking forward to following their adventures when the time is right and they are available.

I wasn't aware that J-Bolt had other professional experience at all.

OMAR
06-22-2006, 03:31 PM
Omar's just playing along. He doesn't believe any of this stuff. It's funny.

Gail

Well it would be easy to pretend I believed it, but I've never been a "go along to get along" guy and I don't jump on bandwagons. My interactions with J-Bolt were consistantly pleasant and amiable. Why should I believe all the bashing, just to be accepted? I'll prefer to judge him on his work and how he treats people, including his staff and his customer base.

I wonder how many of the people in this thread really gave the LBC characters and stories fair consideration? I'll put the WLS ashcan up against LAB RATS or FABLES any day of the week. Just because it doesn't have a big marketing machine shoving the books down our throats doesn't mean the LBC books are somehow inferior.

Kyuubi
06-22-2006, 03:34 PM
OMAR is the best kind of troll.



If that's at all possible.

the4thpip
06-22-2006, 03:44 PM
What kind of benchmark is Lab Rats supposed to be? :confused:

Red Jack
06-22-2006, 03:45 PM
I'll put the WLS ashcan up against LAB RATS or FABLES any day of the week.

You're kidding. You honestly can't tell the difference?

Mike Smash!
06-22-2006, 04:10 PM
Thanks.........

edit: Dear god.

edit: Dear god.

edit: You guys are brutal. Clearly this is the work of a child. Have you no pity?

I just read it. Why the fuck does a hospital have an IV bag of "experimental wolf blood"?

Why does Wolff scream about wanting to left alone after he picked a fight?

Why did I waste time reading it??

Did J-Bolt commission a 12 year old to write this?

The Beast Of Yucca Flats
06-22-2006, 04:44 PM
"J-Bolt once accused Warren Ellis of being an agent of DC Comics out to destroy Lightning Bolt Comics."

And to think I joined the internet like, 2, 3 years after all this. I feel so... so incomplete. :(

MacQuarrie
06-22-2006, 04:48 PM
I just read it. Why the fuck does a hospital have an IV bag of "experimental wolf blood"?

Why does Wolff scream about wanting to left alone after he picked a fight?

Why did I waste time reading it??

Did J-Bolt commission a 12 year old to write this?
You missed the best one.

If "pure instinct" has taken over, why does he take his pants when he leaves?

MacQuarrie
06-22-2006, 05:02 PM
Well it would be easy to pretend I believed it, but I've never been a "go along to get along" guy and I don't jump on bandwagons. My interactions with J-Bolt were consistantly pleasant and amiable. Why should I believe all the bashing, just to be accepted? I'll prefer to judge him on his work and how he treats people, including his staff and his customer base.
You know, while "going along to get along" is foolish, obstinately doing the opposite is equally foolish.

Of course your interactions with him were pleasant and amiable; you never questioned his blatant falsehoods, never asked for any proof of his extraordinary claims, never behaved as anything other than a bootlicking toady to him. Of course he'd be pleasant and amiable. He lied right to your face and you believed it unquestioningly.

How he treats people? Well, since he obviously does not have a staff, we can't judge this based on how he treats his sock-puppets. Everyone who has ever posted on behalf of LBC is Jim Fisher. Heather is Jim. J.B. is Jim. J-Bolt is Jim. Lightning Bolt Comics is Jim Fisher and nobody else.

Since I am his entire customer base (the only person who has ever bought anything from him), I think it's pretty clear how he treats his customers.

Wha tyou call bashing is nothing more than demanding honesty. The "bashers" could not have harmed his project if he wasn't lying about it. Telling Samantha Fox's agent that J-Bolt is claiming she signed a contract that she didn't is not "bashing." It's preventing fraud.
I wonder how many of the people in this thread really gave the LBC characters and stories fair consideration? I'll put the WLS ashcan up against LAB RATS or FABLES any day of the week. Just because it doesn't have a big marketing machine shoving the books down our throats doesn't mean the LBC books are somehow inferior.
We'd LOVE to give it a chance. All we've seen so far is a couple of promo pages. If he puts out an actual comic, we will all buy it. We can't be fans of something that doesn't exist.

He keeps asking what we think of Marina, but nobody knows what she looks like, what her origin is, what her abilities are, where she comes from... We're all supposed to accept the hype at face value and pretend we've actually seen something to get excited about.

So far all we have to go on is 5 year old promises and mangled english.

sk716
06-22-2006, 05:41 PM
Hey, Omar!

If J-bolt's not Jim Fisher, which he is and people close to him have told me so including his producer and ex-girlfriend, then why are his creations registered and copyrighted under the name Jim Fisher?

Gail

Henceforth, I demand a cookie everytime someone mentions the copyright.

I think I'll post the screencap again and have a cookie...

http://jboltmania.jbolted.com/images/jboltcopyright.JPG

TomStillwell
06-22-2006, 05:46 PM
I wonder how many of the people in this thread really gave the LBC characters and stories fair consideration? I'll put the WLS ashcan up against LAB RATS or FABLES any day of the week. Just because it doesn't have a big marketing machine shoving the books down our throats doesn't mean the LBC books are somehow inferior.

Well, as someone who wasn't around for all the "bashing", I was willing to give J-Bolt the benefit of doubt when it concerned talent. It was very possible that despite being a loon he could create comics.

Then I looked at what little work is available.

Gail is kind when she says he has talent as an artist, IMHO.

I've said it before that the art was as good as a decently talented junior high student could manage. Unfortunately this was a grown man claiming it was critically acclaimed work he perfected over decades and trying to sell it to people.

The writing was worse than the art, much worse. Again, junior high level. The plot, the characters are all things a young teen would think of as being cool. I would expect a little more from a self proclaimed comic genius.

If my comic partner Brad and I put out such work we'd be ashamed of ourselves. I would burn it.

His "books" aren't inferior because he doesn't have a large marketing department pushing them. They are inferior because of their poor quality.

There are dozens upon dozens of small press and indie books out on in the stores today that are a million times better in quality. Funny, at one point J-Bolt showed his distain for those very books because he thought that they were inferior in quality.

Pot. Kettle. Black.

OMAR
06-22-2006, 05:50 PM
Y'know, I think it all comes down to unfullfilled dreams. A lot of us out there - I'm particularly thinking of those of us who have the time or inclination to post to internet message boards - have some unfillfilled dreams. I know I do. I'm 32, so I don't feel too bad about that.

What we have in J-Bolt is an example of someone who has gone to great lengths to pursue his lifelong dream. He's made a name for himself by teaching others who went on to success (such as Jason Pearson). He's made a character out of himself by choosing the name "J-Bolt" and wearing his mask/sunglasses. He has developed a web presence, by all accounts he has a staff who are loyal, he is developing a major motion picture deal based on one of his more popular characters. But he hasn't quite been able to carry the ball into the endzone yet, his dreams remain unfullfilled.

What I've learned from watching his online experience is that different people react differently toward someone who is close to realizing a dream. It wouldn't in a million years occur to me to kick at a person like that, belittle their intelligence, call their supposed business associates for any reason. No amount of envy would drive me toward that. If I thought they were exaggerating their success, pretending to be more of a player than they really were - well, what of it? Maybe I'd make a sarcastic comment, maybe go back and forth for a couple of days.

But how many hours, over how many years, have some of you spent in anti-J-Bolt activities? I'm talking about post after post. On message board after message board. Making phone calls. Filling out order forms and sending away for things. Creating fake fansites to humiliate J-Bolt and waste his time. Time that could have been spent productively, working toward actualizing his dreams. He spent time on that message board you people created because he thought he was developing his fanbase but you tricked him. I guess we're supposed to think that makes him pathetic.

Would it be an exageration to say that some of you have spent 100 hours of the limited time you were given on this earth in anti-J-Bolt activity? I think we all know that there's probably at least one of you who has easily racked up 100 hours. To what end?

Do you have children? That's time you could have spent with them.
"I already spend time with my kids" - but you could have spent more with them. Or you could have been promoting a book or creator that you actually like.
"But he cheated me of $15". - Wah. It's $15 F#$%ing dollars. Get over it already. Or better yet, I will mail you the money myself. Send an address to me in a pm and I'll send you a money order tomorrow. Add your shipping on too. If you'll agree to shut up about the f@#$ing poster it'll be the best $20 I ever spent.

Red Jack
06-22-2006, 06:01 PM
You missed the best one.

If "pure instinct" has taken over, why does he take his pants when he leaves?

::SPIT TAKE!::

Guapo Méndez
06-22-2006, 06:03 PM
"But he cheated me of $15". - Wah. It's $15 F#$%ing dollars. Get over it already. Or better yet, I will mail you the money myself. Send an address to me in a pm and I'll send you a money order tomorrow. Add your shipping on too. If you'll agree to shut up about the f@#$ing poster it'll be the best $20 I ever spent.


Cool. Do you plan to reimburse everyone J-Bolt swindled?

So far, we only know of MacQuarrie (and IIRC, he bought posters for himself and 1 or 2 others, no?), but we could do a "Did you ever subscribe to J-Bolt" page and see how many fell. If the numbers are as massive as Bolty claims, you're gonna be out of a lot of money.

Red Jack
06-22-2006, 06:09 PM
Y'know, I think it all comes down to unfullfilled dreams. A lot of us out there - I'm particularly thinking of those of us who have the time or inclination to post to internet message boards - have some unfillfilled dreams. I know I do. I'm 32, so I don't feel too bad about that.

ETC.

I agree with your sentiment, Omar, and I wasn't around for the actual festivities but, if all accounts are to be believed, this guy was given the benefit of the doubt, offered assistance and even cash on several occassions.

To which he responded with unprofessionalism (a word?) lies and hostility.

I am a HUGE fan of people pursuing their dreams, even the crazy ones, (provided no one gets hurt in the process) but, at least according to the meticulously compiled catalogue of transcripts, emails and posts by Mr. Bolt himself, he opened the can.

If I have a concern it is that this person may be truly delusional, therefore psychotic, and capable of all manner of retalitory behaviors.

To this latecomer the whole thing seems to be PAST TENSE. If the guy someday puts out an awesome product, God Bless. I'll buy it. The same as i would if Rob liefeld did so.

i'm just not holding my breath.
















Wait a minute. Did you say he wears a mask AND sunglasses?

MacQuarrie
06-22-2006, 06:41 PM
Y'know, I think it all comes down to unfullfilled dreams. A lot of us out there - I'm particularly thinking of those of us who have the time or inclination to post to internet message boards - have some unfillfilled dreams. I know I do. I'm 32, so I don't feel too bad about that.
I'm 47 and I'm working on my dreams. The difference is, I don't run around announcing that I've fulfilled them as soon as the first step is completed. Mark Twain once said, "most people don't want to read good books; they want to have read good books." In othr words, they want the payoff, but not the effort to get it.

J-Bolt doesn't want to fulfill his dreams, he wants to have them fulfilled. He doesn't want to create a great comic, he wants the acclaim of having done so, but without actually working at it.

As Joe Hardy said in "Damn Yankees", "there's nothing to it but to do it." J-Bolt is a poseur. It's more important to look successful than to actually succeed.

What we have in J-Bolt is an example of someone who has gone to great lengths to pursue his lifelong dream. He's made a name for himself by teaching others who went on to success (such as Jason Pearson). He's made a character out of himself by choosing the name "J-Bolt" and wearing his mask/sunglasses. He has developed a web presence, by all accounts he has a staff who are loyal, he is developing a major motion picture deal based on one of his more popular characters. But he hasn't quite been able to carry the ball into the endzone yet, his dreams remain unfullfilled.
Unfortunately, those "great lengths" include an awful lot of lying.

Have you asked Jason Pearson about his experience with J-Bolt's class? I have. It's a great story. Ask him.

"By all accounts"??? By HIS account, and an account that's easily refuted. Why did his loyal staff allow his website to sit untouched, with all the links broken, for over two years? All the links on his site still point to his old domain name, which he lost due to non-payment. Where is his loyal staff?

What I've learned from watching his online experience is that different people react differently toward someone who is close to realizing a dream. It wouldn't in a million years occur to me to kick at a person like that, belittle their intelligence, call their supposed business associates for any reason. No amount of envy would drive me toward that. If I thought they were exaggerating their success, pretending to be more of a player than they really were - well, what of it? Maybe I'd make a sarcastic comment, maybe go back and forth for a couple of days.
If they tried to swindle money out of you, would you be so sanguine?

But how many hours, over how many years, have some of you spent in anti-J-Bolt activities? I'm talking about post after post. On message board after message board. Making phone calls. Filling out order forms and sending away for things. Creating fake fansites to humiliate J-Bolt and waste his time. Time that could have been spent productively, working toward actualizing his dreams. He spent time on that message board you people created because he thought he was developing his fanbase but you tricked him. I guess we're supposed to think that makes him pathetic.

Would it be an exageration to say that some of you have spent 100 hours of the limited time you were given on this earth in anti-J-Bolt activity? I think we all know that there's probably at least one of you who has easily racked up 100 hours. To what end?

Do you have children? That's time you could have spent with them.
"I already spend time with my kids" - but you could have spent more with them. Or you could have been promoting a book or creator that you actually like.
Every hour spent with J-Bolt has been endlessly entertaining. My kids find him hilarious. We spend time laughing at him together.
"But he cheated me of $15". - Wah. It's $15 F#$%ing dollars. Get over it already. Or better yet, I will mail you the money myself. Send an address to me in a pm and I'll send you a money order tomorrow. Add your shipping on too. If you'll agree to shut up about the f@#$ing poster it'll be the best $20 I ever spent.
It was $20, plus shipping, plus the mailing tube that I had to buy and mail to him because they evidently don't have Office Depot in Nevada. All told, about $28. But it's not the money, it's the principle. For over a year, he has had a page of lies about me posted at his site, despite the fact that I have e-mailed him corrections a couple of times. But he amuses me to no end, and I have gotten at least $28 worth of entertainment out of him, so you need not worry about me.

But I'll take you up on your offer, just to prove you're as full of shit as he is. I won't put it in a PM, because I prefer to do my dealings right out here in the open, as I have nothing to hide. I post under my real name, and my address is easily accessible to anyone with 30 seconds to kill. But to save you those 30 seconds, I'll post it.

Jim MacQuarrie
676 N. Raymond Ave.
Pasadena, CA 91103

Do you also need the phone number? Its listed. Try Superpages.com.

EdContradictory
06-22-2006, 07:01 PM
OMAR's joking, right?

And wasn't he banned at some point?

Internet message board histories confuse me.

J-Bolt is one of the three great Internet comic book messageboard douchebags I've had the pleasure of encountering online.

Crowley
06-22-2006, 07:34 PM
hey OMAR,

here's another hint... Journalists don't get hired by interviewees...

MacQuarrie
06-22-2006, 07:46 PM
Omar, since you're evidently ignoring my challenge, here, I'll help you out.

Google search for "J. B. Fisher"+"Las Vegas" (ttp://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22J.+B.+Fisher%22%2B%22Las+Vegas%22&btnG=Google+Search)

According to J-Bolt, J. B. Fisher is an exposé reporter at or near retirement age who worked in the Las Vegas area. So why is there no mention of him anywhere online except in J-Bolt's ashcan interview?

Probably because he is fictional.

Hey, let's expand the parameters. Find me any evidence at all that a reporter named J.B. Fisher has ever worked in Nevada OR that a woman named Heather Andes has ever lived there between 2000 and the present. I'll accept either one. Produce any evidence at all of the existence of either of these people (apart from LBC-related sources, of course) and I'll concede the point and apologize.

sk716
06-22-2006, 08:16 PM
Omar, since you're evidently ignoring my challenge, here, I'll help you out.

Google search for "J. B. Fisher"+"Las Vegas" (ttp://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22J.+B.+Fisher%22%2B%22Las+Vegas%22&btnG=Google+Search)

According to J-Bolt, J. B. Fisher is an exposé reporter at or near retirement age who worked in the Las Vegas area. So why is there no mention of him anywhere online except in J-Bolt's ashcan interview?

Probably because he is fictional.

Hey, let's expand the parameters. Find me any evidence at all that a reporter named J.B. Fisher has ever worked in Nevada OR that a woman named Heather Andes has ever lived there between 2000 and the present. I'll accept either one. Produce any evidence at all of the existence of either of these people (apart from LBC-related sources, of course) and I'll concede the point and apologize.


Mac, I know we all have a lot of pent up feelings due to J-Bolt's failure to re-appear and be a dip-shit for our amusement, but you're feeding OMAR. Stop it, it just makes him post more.

hey OMAR,

here's another hint... Journalists don't get hired by interviewees...

That goes triple for you.

Crowley
06-22-2006, 08:20 PM
OH YEAH!!!

well it goes Quadruple plus INFINITYfor you!!!

sk716
06-22-2006, 08:43 PM
OH YEAH!!!

well it goes Quadruple plus INFINITYfor you!!!

And you'll notice I'm not feeding this particular poster, now am I?:p

OMAR
06-22-2006, 09:03 PM
Cool. Do you plan to reimburse everyone J-Bolt swindled?

So far, we only know of MacQuarrie (and IIRC, he bought posters for himself and 1 or 2 others, no?), but we could do a "Did you ever subscribe to J-Bolt" page and see how many fell. If the numbers are as massive as Bolty claims, you're gonna be out of a lot of money.

I don't know if anyone was swindled at all. To be honest I kind of doubt it. At worst perhaps the poster sent to MacQuarrie was lost in the mail. If there were others reading this forum who had been unsatisfied with their purchases from LBC, I strongly suspect they would have brought it up before now.

steeler80
06-22-2006, 09:09 PM
And to think I joined the internet like, 2, 3 years after all this. I feel so... so incomplete. :(


I missed it too, which is very odd, as I seem to have a sixth sense for stumbling onto such stuff.

MacQuarrie
06-22-2006, 09:50 PM
Mac, I know we all have a lot of pent up feelings due to J-Bolt's failure to re-appear and be a dip-shit for our amusement, but you're feeding OMAR. Stop it, it just makes him post more.
Ah, but see, I have put out a simple challenge that depends on him coming up with a fact or two. If OMAR continues to post here without addressing that challenge, then everybody can see for themselves that he is exactly what I said he is. Like I said, it's time to put up or shut up.

Repeating J-Bolt's lies will not work anymore, just like it won't work at Comicon .com anymore, which is why he dropped that thread like a hot rock. He called Judith Moose a liar to her face and hasn't had the guts to go back and face that.

My posters did not get "lost in the mail," because they were never mailed. J-Bolt knows it, I know it, OMAR knows it, but his insane urge to always be the opposition compels him to stick to his irrational and absurd statements in the face of The Great Wall of Fact.

"I must fight him left-handed, otherwise there is no challenge in it."

MacQuarrie
06-22-2006, 09:51 PM
I don't know if anyone was swindled at all. To be honest I kind of doubt it. At worst perhaps the poster sent to MacQuarrie was lost in the mail. If there were others reading this forum who had been unsatisfied with their purchases from LBC, I strongly suspect they would have brought it up before now.
How about the inkers and colorists he stiffed? Do they count? The celebrities whose reputations he misappropriated?

Crowley
06-22-2006, 09:56 PM
Plus he never made the BOMBSHELL movie!


Pat Morita died of a BROKEN HEART!

Magneto_X
06-22-2006, 10:24 PM
hey OMAR,

here's another hint... Journalists don't get hired by interviewees...

It's rare but it can happen. IIRC Heidi MacDonald (from The Beat [?]) has done at least been hired once to interview comic creator/s* for the "back-up section" of their indy comic.

* don't remember the title, unfortunately

OMAR
06-22-2006, 11:09 PM
I'm not impressed by you putting your home address and the fact that you have kids on a public forum. I think it's reckless and irresponsible, and will continue to think so after you assure me that you're a well armed Navy Seal with a pack of pitbulls, like every other internet tough guy is. Not cool.

What is the challenge that I'm ignoring or avoiding? What are you challenging me to do? Prove that someone exists? When the hell did I ever claim to be able to do that? I freely admit here and now that I can't prove that any of the LBC staff exist. I never said I could.

I really don't like interacting with you, and this is why. You have this way of flinging out waves of increasingly aggressive questions and challenges in post after post and if I miss one, you start crowing that I'm avoiding you until I have to go back, figure out what the hell you're referring to, and address it.

OK, so here we are. No, I do not claim to be able to use the various internet stalker sites to track anyone down and prove their existence. When I read the various posts I made regarding the staff, I don't see where I ever claimed that.

You state that I know your posters were not lost in the mail. That's an obvious lie. How could I know that?

You state that I "dropped the Comicon thread like a hot rock". Here's a chonology for anyone who might have been tempted to believe you:

09-04-2005 02:16 AM - poster iangould makes what most sane people would have believed to have been the last in the discussion.

06-11-2006 01:36 PM - nine months later, someone claiming to be "Judith A. Moose" posts in a hilariously transparent attempt to portray theselves as one of the agents that once represented J-Bolt. Do I strongly suspect that it was either you or a confederate? Yes, yes I do. But I can't prove it and don't claim to have any proof other than my own common sense.

06-12-2006 05:14 PM - 28 hour later, I notice that the thread has been bumped and I post a response.

06-20-2006 09:03 PM - 8 days and 4 hours later, you post a message to the thread, bumping it back to the top from whatever page it was on with another long, angry tirade that included the question

"Are you calling Judith Moose a liar?"

and ended with the following:

"Now, are you going to finally be a man and admit you were wrong and retract the accusations and lies that you repeated about me, or are you just going to continue to be a pathetic little weasel?"

06-22-2006 11:50 PM - 2 days and 4 hours later, you post here that:

"Repeating J-Bolt's lies will not work anymore, just like it won't work at Comicon .com anymore, which is why he dropped that thread like a hot rock. He called Judith Moose a liar to her face and hasn't had the guts to go back and face that."

I see you've gone from asking whether I called her a liar to saying I did it to her face.

How can you look at those dates and times and claim that I dropped that thread like a hot rock? But yeah, once it becomes about who is a pathetic little weasel and who's an angry, embittered, hate-filled bully who is warping his children by exposing them to embarrassing displays of immaturity, I'm pretty much done with the conversation. I always try to make it about something that can be discussed objectively. By the time I'm down to slinging shit back and forth I usually lose interest and I try to tear myself away or at least ignore the bullies and the namecallers but it's tough. Here I am addressing you directly when I really, really meant to never do it again. I don't think you bring anything interesting or positive to the table, but now I've invited another couple of paragraphs of hysterical, indignant questions peppered with personal insults and schoolyard tough talk. And I'll probably respond to it tomorrow, unless I wind up somehow waking up with a whole lot more self control than I'm going to sleep with.

But to be honest, though I never thought you were particularly clever, tonight you proved to me that you really don't know what you're talking about. In reference to my pledge to send your the $28 in exchange for never having to hear about that f#$%ing poster again, you made the following comment:

"But I'll take you up on your offer, just to prove you're as full of shit as he is."

Heidi MacDonald, over on The Pulse, once defended the use of the word "retarded" as a putdown. I took great umbrage at that, as is my wont, and went back and forth with her, making a big deal about how offensive it was - a genuinely held opinion. Heidi took it all with her usual good humor and I don't think my ramblings did anyhing to change her mind.

And now I'm embarassed. I take it all back, Heidi - sorry about that.

You, sir, are retarded. You haven't picked up on the most basic characteristic of my personality, one that I wear on my sleeve and that you would understand if you knew the slightest thing about human nature. If you had a conscience or any integrity, you'd have the innate ability to recognize those characteristics, even in someone you disagree with. But no, I wasn't counting on that. Just the slightest bit of intelligence, enough to think about what it would mean to me to NOT send the money now. In what F-ed up, parallel universe must you live to think that, even if I was the total scumbag you imagine me to be, I would have made that offer without being committed to send the money. That you think for a second that I'd be willing to let you strut around bragging that you didn't get your handout - that shows me what you're really all about.

Just last week I was laughing to a friend that I had bought a new CD and it was the first I had ever bought out of spite. I don't usually do things out of spite but now I'm sending money out of spite which has to be the topper. I'm not even sure I've typed the word spite this many times before.

You'll get your money, and soon.

Gail Simone
06-22-2006, 11:45 PM
Well it would be easy to pretend I believed it, but I've never been a "go along to get along" guy and I don't jump on bandwagons. My interactions with J-Bolt were consistantly pleasant and amiable. Why should I believe all the bashing, just to be accepted? I'll prefer to judge him on his work and how he treats people, including his staff and his customer base.

I wonder how many of the people in this thread really gave the LBC characters and stories fair consideration? I'll put the WLS ashcan up against LAB RATS or FABLES any day of the week. Just because it doesn't have a big marketing machine shoving the books down our throats doesn't mean the LBC books are somehow inferior.


It's good stuff, Omar, but I ain't buyin'. Sorry. I know you're not stupid.

Gail

Crowley
06-22-2006, 11:47 PM
OMAR,
I think you're coo-coo for cocoa puffs.

One of these days when I have lots of money I think I'll pay you, iwarrior, mwm1331 and Baker_Baker to enter Thunderdome and have a nerdoff to the death.

TomStillwell
06-22-2006, 11:48 PM
Wow. That was rather long.

Now I'm wondering...if you know Mac pushes your buttons then why are you here?

Does he somehow make you look at the forum? Is it possession? Mental manipulation?

No? Hmmm.

If no one is forcing you to be here and respond then it's all on you, buddy.

You walk away and no one...not Mac...not Gail...no one can push your buttons.

Is it pride? Will your pride be hurt if you don't get a response in or defend your yourself?

Be honest with yourself. Don't blame Mac for making you post. You're an adult. Take responsibility for your actions.

If you don't like what is being said here then just walk away and don't hold to some silly notion about pride.

Otherwise, if you stay, then it just proves you are indeed a troll.

Gail Simone
06-22-2006, 11:50 PM
Y'know, I think it all comes down to unfullfilled dreams. A lot of us out there - I'm particularly thinking of those of us who have the time or inclination to post to internet message boards - have some unfillfilled dreams. I know I do. I'm 32, so I don't feel too bad about that.

What we have in J-Bolt is an example of someone who has gone to great lengths to pursue his lifelong dream. He's made a name for himself by teaching others who went on to success (such as Jason Pearson). He's made a character out of himself by choosing the name "J-Bolt" and wearing his mask/sunglasses. He has developed a web presence, by all accounts he has a staff who are loyal, he is developing a major motion picture deal based on one of his more popular characters. But he hasn't quite been able to carry the ball into the endzone yet, his dreams remain unfullfilled.

What I've learned from watching his online experience is that different people react differently toward someone who is close to realizing a dream. It wouldn't in a million years occur to me to kick at a person like that, belittle their intelligence, call their supposed business associates for any reason. No amount of envy would drive me toward that. If I thought they were exaggerating their success, pretending to be more of a player than they really were - well, what of it? Maybe I'd make a sarcastic comment, maybe go back and forth for a couple of days.

But how many hours, over how many years, have some of you spent in anti-J-Bolt activities? I'm talking about post after post. On message board after message board. Making phone calls. Filling out order forms and sending away for things. Creating fake fansites to humiliate J-Bolt and waste his time. Time that could have been spent productively, working toward actualizing his dreams. He spent time on that message board you people created because he thought he was developing his fanbase but you tricked him. I guess we're supposed to think that makes him pathetic.

Would it be an exageration to say that some of you have spent 100 hours of the limited time you were given on this earth in anti-J-Bolt activity? I think we all know that there's probably at least one of you who has easily racked up 100 hours. To what end?

Do you have children? That's time you could have spent with them.
"I already spend time with my kids" - but you could have spent more with them. Or you could have been promoting a book or creator that you actually like.
"But he cheated me of $15". - Wah. It's $15 F#$%ing dollars. Get over it already. Or better yet, I will mail you the money myself. Send an address to me in a pm and I'll send you a money order tomorrow. Add your shipping on too. If you'll agree to shut up about the f@#$ing poster it'll be the best $20 I ever spent.



Oh, my god, I almost had an irony fit, being lectured about proper use of time by Omar, quite possibly the industry's most obsessed troll.


Good one, O!

How many stupid fucking threads have you started about John Byrne again?

Sheesh.

Gail

Gail Simone
06-22-2006, 11:53 PM
I don't know if anyone was swindled at all. To be honest I kind of doubt it. At worst perhaps the poster sent to MacQuarrie was lost in the mail. If there were others reading this forum who had been unsatisfied with their purchases from LBC, I strongly suspect they would have brought it up before now.

Except that J-bolt had his ebay account suspended after numerous complaints, and not by him, but by ebay.

Get over it, Omar. I know you're not this dumb.

Gail

Gail Simone
06-22-2006, 11:57 PM
Wow. That was rather long.

Now I'm wondering...if you know Mac pushes your buttons then why are you here?

Does he somehow make you look at the forum? Is it possession? Mental manipulation?

No? Hmmm.

If no one is forcing you to be here and respond then it's all on you, buddy.

You walk away and no one...not Mac...not Gail...no one can push your buttons.

Is it pride? Will your pride be hurt if you don't get a response in or defend your yourself?

Be honest with yourself. Don't blame Mac for making you post. You're an adult. Take responsibility for your actions.

If you don't like what is being said here then just walk away and don't hold to some silly notion about pride.

Otherwise, if you stay, then it just proves you are indeed a troll.


No troll in the industry has been as obsessive and long-winded as Omar, so his speech about it is hilariously J-boltish in its avoidance of any real facts.

I still think you're just playing, Omar. I've seen you post intelligently more than once, making it impossible for you to ignore the hard evidence we've provided over and over.

Gail

OzBat!
06-23-2006, 12:15 AM
Button pushing at twenty paces!

WHO. WILL. WIN??

MacQuarrie
06-23-2006, 12:44 AM
I'm not impressed by you putting your home address and the fact that you have kids on a public forum. I think it's reckless and irresponsible, and will continue to think so after you assure me that you're a well armed Navy Seal with a pack of pitbulls, like every other internet tough guy is. Not cool.
See, I don't think it's a big deal at all. My address is freely available to anyone who knows my name. It's listed in the Phone book. It has been for the last 29 years. It's listed on the registry information for the websites that I own, and it's a matter of public record, since I own the property. Anyone who wants to find me can do so, and that's the way it's been since I got on the internet under my real name 13 years ago. Big whoop, so a handful of other comic geeks know where I live. So far, only the telemarketers and junk mail producers seem to care.

One can choose to live a paranoid fearful life, or live a normal one. I pick normal.

What is the challenge that I'm ignoring or avoiding? What are you challenging me to do? Prove that someone exists? When the hell did I ever claim to be able to do that? I freely admit here and now that I can't prove that any of the LBC staff exist. I never said I could.
The challenge you are avoiding is simply this: back up any of your claims with a fact.

You accept all of J-Bolt's claims at face value and happily repeat them on various forums without any regard to their veracity, even when those claims are slanderous. The ones that aren't slanderous are generally self-evidently false to anyone with a lick of common sense, but you parrot them anyway.

Yet, you demand an absurdly high standard of proof from anyone who would contradict J-Bolt's lunatic nonsense, and disregard any evidence put forth. When we presented the copyright registration, you accused us of faking it in photoshop; once we gave you the step-by-step process for accessing the information yourself, you suddenly dropped that line of discussion. You have yet to admit that Jim "J-Bolt" Fisher filed a copyright registration for Lightning Bolt Comics characters in 1989, and have not come up with any rational explanation for that filing. Because you can't ever admit you are wrong. Which you are all the time.

I really don't like interacting with you, and this is why. You have this way of flinging out waves of increasingly aggressive questions and challenges in post after post and if I miss one, you start crowing that I'm avoiding you until I have to go back, figure out what the hell you're referring to, and address it.
Dude, you repeated slanderous lies about me on the comicon boards and have yet to retract them. I don't give a flying rat's ass how you feel about me. I've flung out precisely one aggressive question and challenge, and it is this: prove one damn claim that you have made. You have repeatedly accepted J-Bolt's claim to have a loyal staff that he is paying with the proceeds from a non-functioning website that sells nonexistent product.

OK, so here we are. No, I do not claim to be able to use the various internet stalker sites to track anyone down and prove their existence. When I read the various posts I made regarding the staff, I don't see where I ever claimed that.
You claimed that they exist. Referring to the staff is tacitly claiming that they exist. Prove it. Get proof from your pal Fisher. Find a Classmates registration for Heather or J.B., or one of the award-winning columns that J.B. wrote. Your library's periodicals section should be able to locate that within 15 minutes if such a thing exists.

You state that I know your posters were not lost in the mail. That's an obvious lie. How could I know that?
You know it because it has been repeatedly proven that J-Bolt is a chronic liar. Chronic liars lie. But then you know that.

You state that I "dropped the Comicon thread like a hot rock". Here's a chonology for anyone who might have been tempted to believe you:

09-04-2005 02:16 AM - poster iangould makes what most sane people would have believed to have been the last in the discussion.

06-11-2006 01:36 PM - nine months later, someone claiming to be "Judith A. Moose" posts in a hilariously transparent attempt to portray theselves as one of the agents that once represented J-Bolt. Do I strongly suspect that it was either you or a confederate? Yes, yes I do. But I can't prove it and don't claim to have any proof other than my own common sense.

06-12-2006 05:14 PM - 28 hour later, I notice that the thread has been bumped and I post a response.

06-20-2006 09:03 PM - 8 days and 4 hours later, you post a message to the thread, bumping it back to the top from whatever page it was on with another long, angry tirade that included the question

"Are you calling Judith Moose a liar?"

and ended with the following:

"Now, are you going to finally be a man and admit you were wrong and retract the accusations and lies that you repeated about me, or are you just going to continue to be a pathetic little weasel?"

06-22-2006 11:50 PM - 2 days and 4 hours later, you post here that:

"Repeating J-Bolt's lies will not work anymore, just like it won't work at Comicon .com anymore, which is why he dropped that thread like a hot rock. He called Judith Moose a liar to her face and hasn't had the guts to go back and face that."

I see you've gone from asking whether I called her a liar to saying I did it to her face.
I was being polite when I asked if that's what you were doing. It's self-evident that it is exactly what you were doing. She said she dropped Fisher in 2001 and you called her a liar.

How can you look at those dates and times and claim that I dropped that thread like a hot rock? But yeah, once it becomes about who is a pathetic little weasel and who's an angry, embittered, hate-filled bully who is warping his children by exposing them to embarrassing displays of immaturity, I'm pretty much done with the conversation. I always try to make it about something that can be discussed objectively. By the time I'm down to slinging shit back and forth I usually lose interest and I try to tear myself away or at least ignore the bullies and the namecallers but it's tough.
You mean once you run out of shit to sling and you've been called on all the shit you slung, you run away like the gutless turd you are.

Here I am addressing you directly when I really, really meant to never do it again. I don't think you bring anything interesting or positive to the table, but now I've invited another couple of paragraphs of hysterical, indignant questions peppered with personal insults and schoolyard tough talk. And I'll probably respond to it tomorrow, unless I wind up somehow waking up with a whole lot more self control than I'm going to sleep with.
Screw self-control. Wake up with a frigging shred of common sense, will you? If you believe J-Bolt's bullshit, you would believe the nigerian prince who promised to give you 20 million dollars in that e-mail. If you don't believe it and are pretending to do so, then you are a troll and more pathetic than J-Bolt.

MacQuarrie
06-23-2006, 12:44 AM
But to be honest, though I never thought you were particularly clever, tonight you proved to me that you really don't know what you're talking about. In reference to my pledge to send your the $28 in exchange for never having to hear about that f#$%ing poster again, you made the following comment:

"But I'll take you up on your offer, just to prove you're as full of shit as he is."

Heidi MacDonald, over on The Pulse, once defended the use of the word "retarded" as a putdown. I took great umbrage at that, as is my wont, and went back and forth with her, making a big deal about how offensive it was - a genuinely held opinion. Heidi took it all with her usual good humor and I don't think my ramblings did anyhing to change her mind.

And now I'm embarassed. I take it all back, Heidi - sorry about that.

You, sir, are retarded. You haven't picked up on the most basic characteristic of my personality, one that I wear on my sleeve and that you would understand if you knew the slightest thing about human nature. If you had a conscience or any integrity, you'd have the innate ability to recognize those characteristics, even in someone you disagree with. But no, I wasn't counting on that. Just the slightest bit of intelligence, enough to think about what it would mean to me to NOT send the money now. In what F-ed up, parallel universe must you live to think that, even if I was the total scumbag you imagine me to be, I would have made that offer without being committed to send the money. That you think for a second that I'd be willing to let you strut around bragging that you didn't get your handout - that shows me what you're really all about.
The most basic characteristic of your personality is the neurotic compulsion to be on the unpopular side of every argument, no matter how idiotic and dishonest that side is, and to continue to dig yourself in deeper and deeper into whatever position you have chosen to adopt, regardless of how irrational and morally bankrupt that position is. I have no doubt you'll send me the money, because you have locked yourself into being J-Bolt's bitch here for god knows what reason, and you will do whatever stupid thing it takes to maintain that position. If you send me that money, you are an idiot.

Just last week I was laughing to a friend that I had bought a new CD and it was the first I had ever bought out of spite. I don't usually do things out of spite but now I'm sending money out of spite which has to be the topper. I'm not even sure I've typed the word spite this many times before.
Cervantes said "make it thy business to know thyself; and this is the hardest lesson of all."

If you think you aren't spiteful, you don't know yourself at all. Take an honest look at your posting history here and elsewhere; every word you have ever typed at comicon.com is steeped in spite, up to and including is, and and the. You are the most spiteful person I've ever encountered, and also the least self-aware. You can't even see yourself. It's absurd. You should change your user name to Spite Boy.

You'll get your money, and soon.
If I do, it's because you can't honestly face yourself. You were conned by J-Bolt and can't admit it. You chose to defend a lying loser, and you can't retreat. You'd rather throw money away than admit you were wrong. That's pathetic. If my son turned out like you, I'd smother him in his sleep. It would be a mercy to himself and the world.

Mike Smash!
06-23-2006, 12:49 AM
Where can I get a link to the history of the Legend of J-Bolt?

MacQuarrie
06-23-2006, 12:52 AM
Where can I get a link to the history of the Legend of J-Bolt?
http://jboltmania.jbolted.com
http://www.monkeyspit.net/rantman/jbolt.php

Also check the Wayback Machine for earlier version of www.lightning-bolt-comics.com and www.lightningboltentertainment.com

And be sure to read the news page at his current site. It's hilarious.

Cam63
06-23-2006, 01:23 AM
This is comedy gold.

Gold-ish at least !

Typo Lad
06-23-2006, 05:13 AM
Sigh.

I love you all (well, except the people I don't really know) but I really, really loath this thread.

Why are we beating on the mentally slow?

SUPERECWFAN1
06-23-2006, 05:22 AM
Sigh.

I love you all (well, except the people I don't really know) but I really, really loath this thread.

Why are we beating on the mentally slow?


You know...it took me awhile but last year I think I realized how sad it really was. I let it go. Yes he's a funny guy to watch and learn about but alas things will never change. You can only kick someone so much before it gets sad to see.

If he ever gets material out I'd buy it. I mean what more can you want ? If he is reading this....J-Bolt I'd buy your books if thier in my LCS. Thats a deal. If thier good I'll praise them if not I'll swear at them like I do Judd Winick's " Green Arrow " on a constant basis and I don't buy it.

Good luck to whatever you decide to do. :)

Gail Simone
06-23-2006, 05:25 AM
Sigh.

I love you all (well, except the people I don't really know) but I really, really loath this thread.

Why are we beating on the mentally slow?

It's not the moron that's offensive to me, it's the liar.

Gail

Typo Lad
06-23-2006, 05:28 AM
Wait, which one is which again? It's hard to tell.

Dman it, now I'm doing it.

You're a bad influence Ms. Simone.

EdContradictory
06-23-2006, 05:35 AM
Wasn't OMAR banned? How is he even posting now?

Gail Simone
06-23-2006, 05:36 AM
I never banned him, did I?

I don't remember banning anyone. Did someone else?

Gail

EdContradictory
06-23-2006, 05:37 AM
Not you. I thought he was just banned from CBR.

His post count is very low, which says "new account created from a new un-banned ip" to me.

Typo Lad
06-23-2006, 05:39 AM
Whent he board has a reboot, old bans are occasionally pardoned. My guess is OMAR was one of those bans.

EdContradictory
06-23-2006, 06:12 AM
Hurray for us, then.

Does this mean MOTA's back, too?

MacQuarrie
06-23-2006, 09:50 AM
Hurray for us, then.

Does this mean MOTA's back, too?
shhhhh!

He doesn't know it yet!

MacQuarrie
06-23-2006, 09:55 AM
Sigh.

I love you all (well, except the people I don't really know) but I really, really loath this thread.

Why are we beating on the mentally slow?
We're not. J-Bolt's history is being dragged up because OMAR has chosen to appoint himself guardian of the LBC reputation. We have to review the events in order to refute his idiotic arguments.

Oh. Wait. You're referring to OMAR as mentally slow. I disagree. He's not stupid, just incredibly stubborn. I don't really understand why he would defend the ethically bankrupt, but here we are.

And anyway, my opinion is that if J-Bolt is mentally slow, it's self-inflicted. But I don't think he is, I think he's a bullshit artist.

Cam63
06-23-2006, 06:31 PM
Button pushing at twenty paces!

WHO. WILL. WIN??

I favour the lebian.

Gail Simone
06-23-2006, 06:39 PM
Omar will never, ever admit a black and white fact that destroys his fanciful bullshit, which is why I lost all patience with him.

But I still think he's full of it, here. He's a lot of things, but not dumb enough to fall for J-bolt's horseshit.

Gail

PatrickG
06-23-2006, 07:23 PM
It was $20, plus shipping, plus the mailing tube that I had to buy and mail to him because they evidently don't have Office Depot in Nevada. All told, about $28. But it's not the money, it's the principle. For over a year, he has had a page of lies about me posted at his site, despite the fact that I have e-mailed him corrections a couple of times. But he amuses me to no end, and I have gotten at least $28 worth of entertainment out of him, so you need not worry about me.

.

I'll be the next J-Bolt for $28.

PatrickG
06-23-2006, 07:28 PM
Oh. And while we're at it, OMAR, I'll never bring up MacQuarrie's missing posters in exchange for $28 also.

sk716
06-23-2006, 09:36 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you the Official YABS Ho:

PatrickG



:p

Gail Simone
06-23-2006, 10:07 PM
For 28 dollars you could buy both J-bolt's and Omar's entire contribution to comics and still have money left over for a chimichanga.

Gail

EdContradictory
06-23-2006, 10:11 PM
For 28 dollars you could buy both J-bolt's and Omar's entire contribution to comics and still have money left over for a chimichanga.

Gail
Chimichangas are AWESOME.

kcarroll
06-23-2006, 10:32 PM
i just read through 10 pages of new postings on this thread, and you know what? no j-bolt.

for those of you that want to enjoy the bolt (i call him the bolt, we're tight) go over to the imdb listing for him. he somehow has an imdb listing because he was an extra in Rat Race.

He was answering posts over there for a while. I stopped posting, and none of his other fans came forward.

I know that many of the posters here at YABS believe the bolt to be unwell, and that we are taking advantage of the mentally unstable. the fact of the matter is that when he's in full hype mode, he's really funny, and deep down, you all know it.

now stop getting my hopes up that there's been some kind of Bombshell breakthrough with this nonsense rehashing the old stuff.

Gail Simone
06-23-2006, 10:41 PM
YOU'RE J-bolt!

Gail

MacQuarrie
06-24-2006, 12:30 AM
He didn't make up his own punctuation, create his own definitions for words, make up new words of his very own, perpetrate any malaprops, write in Yoda's syntax, or prop up his own ego at all. How can you say he's J-Bolt?

TomStillwell
06-24-2006, 12:51 AM
chimichanga

Thems good eating!

Magneto_X
06-24-2006, 12:53 AM
For 28 dollars you could buy both J-bolt's and Omar's entire contribution to comics and still have money left over for a chimichanga.

Gail

Um...what's a "chimichanga"? :confused:

Magneto_X
06-24-2006, 12:54 AM
i just read through 10 pages of new postings on this thread, and you know what? no j-bolt.

for those of you that want to enjoy the bolt (i call him the bolt, we're tight) go over to the imdb listing for him. he somehow has an imdb listing because he was an extra in Rat Race.

He was answering posts over there for a while. I stopped posting, and none of his other fans came forward.

I know that many of the posters here at YABS believe the bolt to be unwell, and that we are taking advantage of the mentally unstable. the fact of the matter is that when he's in full hype mode, he's really funny, and deep down, you all know it.

now stop getting my hopes up that there's been some kind of Bombshell breakthrough with this nonsense rehashing the old stuff.


He would make a great comedian. But he'd never go to any gigs. :(

sk716
06-24-2006, 07:59 AM
Um...what's a "chimichanga"? :confused:

A Mexican dish.

CHICKEN CHIMICHANGAS

1/4 c. bacon grease
2 c. chopped or shredded cooked chicken
1 med. onion, diced
2 cloves garlic, minced
2 med. tomatoes, chopped
2 cans (4 oz.) chopped green chilies
1 lg. peeled, boiled potato, diced
1 tsp. salt
1 1/2 tsp. oregano
1 to 2 tsp. chili powder
2 tbsp. minced, fresh cilantro
12 lg. flour tortillas, warmed
Vegetable oil
Shredded cheddar
Sour cream
Guacamole
Salsa
Shredded lettuce, chopped tomatoes, sliced black olives

In skillet, melt bacon grease over medium heat. Saute meat, onion, garlic, tomatoes, chilies and potatoes; until onion softens. Add salt, oregano, chili powder and cilantro; simmer 2 to 3 minutes.

Place 1/2 cup meat filling on each tortilla. Fold envelope style (like a burrito). Fry, seam side down, in 1/2 inch of hot oil, until crispy and brown. Turn and brown other side. Drain briefly on paper towels.

Place on plate and top with shredded cheese, sour cream, guacamole and salsa. Place shredded lettuce around chimichanga and top lettuce with chopped tomatoes and sliced black olives. 12 servings.

Can substitute cooked beef or pork for chicken.

http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/recipereview/data/13/49365chimichanga.gif

MacQuarrie
06-24-2006, 05:41 PM
I just got home from the Oddball luncheon and discovered that I had received an Express Mail package; a money order for $28 from OMAR.

OMAR, I think you're nuts for wasting the money this way, but then people think I'm probably nuts for sending J-Bolt money, so I guess it all works out. Thank you for your gift. You're defending a guy who lacks your integrity, and I don't understand why, but there it is.

J-Bolt, OMAR has paid your bill for you. We're even. I will shut up about the fact that you stiffed me. That book is closed.

Any new idiocy that may come up remains fair game.

Carry on.

Crowley
06-24-2006, 05:59 PM
okay OMAR gets points for keeping his word.

his wacky, wacky word.

Gail Simone
06-24-2006, 06:36 PM
I just got home from the Oddball luncheon and discovered that I had received an Express Mail package; a money order for $28 from OMAR.

OMAR, I think you're nuts for wasting the money this way, but then people think I'm probably nuts for sending J-Bolt money, so I guess it all works out. Thank you for your gift. You're defending a guy who lacks your integrity, and I don't understand why, but there it is.

J-Bolt, OMAR has paid your bill for you. We're even. I will shut up about the fact that you stiffed me. That book is closed.

Any new idiocy that may come up remains fair game.

Carry on.

I'm sending Omar a chimichanga.

Gail

Gaz
06-24-2006, 06:40 PM
I'm sending Omar a chimichanga.

Gail
Won't it get smooshed in the mail?

Red Jack
06-24-2006, 07:01 PM
I just got home from the Oddball luncheon and discovered that I had received an Express Mail package; a money order for $28 from OMAR.

OMAR, I think you're nuts for wasting the money this way, but then people think I'm probably nuts for sending J-Bolt money, so I guess it all works out. Thank you for your gift. You're defending a guy who lacks your integrity, and I don't understand why, but there it is.

J-Bolt, OMAR has paid your bill for you. We're even. I will shut up about the fact that you stiffed me. That book is closed.

:eek: No WAY!:eek:

SUPERECWFAN1
06-24-2006, 07:04 PM
Well if anyone else ordered posters you might as well tell Omar since he's settleing J-Bolts debts. This is like the new wierd term of Bankruptcy Court I'm seeing.

TomStillwell
06-24-2006, 07:11 PM
I'm sending Omar a chimichanga.

He deserves not such ambrosia!!!

Crowley
06-24-2006, 09:06 PM
I gave J-Bolt 12k to finance his movie.

PAY UP OMAR!

Gail Simone
06-24-2006, 11:21 PM
Ugh, how chicken is it to come in, say bullshit, and run when black and white evidence proves you wrong?

Jeez.

Gail

TomStillwell
06-25-2006, 07:29 AM
Guys! Now I know why J-Bolt has been so quiet. He finished up the BombShell movie!!!

Someone leaked it unto the net. Check it out.

http://movies.lionhead.com/movie/91254

Cam63
06-25-2006, 07:35 AM
...and I'm drinkin' Fosters !

MacQuarrie
06-25-2006, 10:40 AM
Guys! Now I know why J-Bolt has been so quiet. He finished up the BombShell movie!!!

Someone leaked it unto the net. Check it out.

http://movies.lionhead.com/movie/91254
Tom, I'm naming my child after you.

No, I'm not having another one. I'm changing Kate's name to Tom. She's not happy about it. But after that film, you earned it.

Kate just hit me.

YoGo
06-25-2006, 02:03 PM
omg that was great.

Typo Lad
06-25-2006, 02:16 PM
It's like YaBS, the movie.

PatrickG
06-25-2006, 02:27 PM
Dammit. This makes CoH demo editting look primitive.

I'd heard of this "Movies" game but now I know I must have it.

Hey, Jim... Put that $28 towards a copy of the movies. There needs to be a YABS site lisence for that game.

We need to be making movies on that thing!

Crowley
06-25-2006, 02:58 PM
Guys! Now I know why J-Bolt has been so quiet. He finished up the BombShell movie!!!

Someone leaked it unto the net. Check it out.

http://movies.lionhead.com/movie/91254
BEST THING EVER!

MacQuarrie
06-25-2006, 03:22 PM
Dammit. This makes CoH demo editting look primitive.

I'd heard of this "Movies" game but now I know I must have it.

Hey, Jim... Put that $28 towards a copy of the movies. There needs to be a YABS site lisence for that game.

We need to be making movies on that thing!
If the game ran on my mac, I would absolutely go for it.

I guess that means I have to squander the money on booze or something.

the4thpip
06-25-2006, 03:36 PM
:p
You had me at "he's a creature of pure instincts - and pants!"

sk716
06-25-2006, 03:40 PM
Dammit. This makes CoH demo editting look primitive.

I'd heard of this "Movies" game but now I know I must have it.

Hey, Jim... Put that $28 towards a copy of the movies. There needs to be a YABS site lisence for that game.

We need to be making movies on that thing!

How mad are you gonna be if I tell you I have it and I have never played it?



Oops, guess I just told...

Red Jack
06-25-2006, 03:55 PM
Can't wait for them to make a mac version of THE MOVIES.

Sweet.

"Pure instinct and pants."

Awesome.

PatrickG
06-25-2006, 04:20 PM
How mad are you gonna be if I tell you I have it and I have never played it?



Oops, guess I just told...

Eh. I will get it someday. Meanwhile, this thread inspires me to review the demo editing/recording stuff we talked about.

sk716
06-25-2006, 08:38 PM
Eh. I will get it someday. Meanwhile, this thread inspires me to review the demo editing/recording stuff we talked about.

All the files I collected are still up.

Cream Filled Taco
06-25-2006, 08:58 PM
If the game ran on my mac, I would absolutely go for it.


Someday, you're going to have to upgrade to an Intel Mac. Then you can run all the games!

OMAR
06-25-2006, 11:55 PM
First:
Wasn't OMAR banned? How is he even posting now?

Then:
Not you. I thought he was just banned from CBR. His post count is very low, which says "new account created from a new un-banned ip" to me.

Then:
Whent he board has a reboot, old bans are occasionally pardoned. My guess is OMAR was one of those bans.

The truth is that to my knowledge, I've never been banned. If there was a ban it was repealed before I tried to post again. However my last visit was no more popular than this one, so it might have occurred for all I know. But it wasn't done in a public, direct response to any one post in particular or I'm sure I'd remember.

OMAR
06-26-2006, 12:06 AM
I just got home from the Oddball luncheon and discovered that I had received an Express Mail package; a money order for $28 from OMAR.

OMAR, I think you're nuts for wasting the money this way, but then people think I'm probably nuts for sending J-Bolt money, so I guess it all works out. Thank you for your gift. You're defending a guy who lacks your integrity, and I don't understand why, but there it is.

J-Bolt, OMAR has paid your bill for you. We're even. I will shut up about the fact that you stiffed me. That book is closed.

Any new idiocy that may come up remains fair game.

Carry on.

Thank you MacQuarrie for acknowledging reciept of the money. I like to keep my word as quickly as possible. I do regret that my last few posts in this thread were getting so vehement. After spending the weekend at the lake I've come back to the internet with a more positive frame of mind. I won't stop jumping in when I see a decent, hardworking, talented guy's dreams getting dumped on, but I will go back to my usual standard of not making it personal. I shouldn't have called you retarded. I'm the one who sent money to a stranger in the fastest way I could possibly do it - after reading him state that if I did send it, it would be because I honestly can't face myself. I can face myself fine though.

OMAR
06-26-2006, 12:14 AM
Ugh, how chicken is it to come in, say bullshit, and run when black and white evidence proves you wrong?

Jeez.

Gail

At first it was unclear but this seems to be about me? If it is, I didn't run, I was out of town for the weekend. I didn't post anywhere or go online on Friday or Saturday. And I don't think that I've been proven wrong by "black and white evidence" but I may misunderstand what you mean by that term.

In any case I don't think a two-day (if it is me you're talking about) posting gap in an discussion that's been going on for years now should be cause for declaring a forfeit.

Gail Simone
06-26-2006, 01:10 AM
At first it was unclear but this seems to be about me? If it is, I didn't run, I was out of town for the weekend. I didn't post anywhere or go online on Friday or Saturday. And I don't think that I've been proven wrong by "black and white evidence" but I may misunderstand what you mean by that term.

In any case I don't think a two-day (if it is me you're talking about) posting gap in an discussion that's been going on for years now should be cause for declaring a forfeit.


You are right, I am wrong, and I apologize.

Gail

MacQuarrie
06-26-2006, 02:13 AM
Thank you MacQuarrie for acknowledging reciept of the money. I like to keep my word as quickly as possible. I do regret that my last few posts in this thread were getting so vehement. After spending the weekend at the lake I've come back to the internet with a more positive frame of mind. I won't stop jumping in when I see a decent, hardworking, talented guy's dreams getting dumped on, but I will go back to my usual standard of not making it personal. I shouldn't have called you retarded. I'm the one who sent money to a stranger in the fastest way I could possibly do it - after reading him state that if I did send it, it would be because I honestly can't face myself. I can face myself fine though.
I'll totally back you up if a decent, hardworking, talented guy's dreams are getting dumped on. Sadly, that's not the case here, and you know it.

Decent:
The man committed a few felonies when he tried to auction a percentage of the profits to his "movie" on Ebay.
He committed acts of fraud when he publicly claimed to have signed contracts with celebrities who had never heard of him and attempted to use those nonexistent associations to solicit funds.
He committed acts of libel when he tried to establish an appearance of legitimacy by claiming to be represented by people who either never represented him or had dropped him years prior, and committed further acts of libel when he claimed to have "fired" those same people.

Hardworking:
There has not been one new bit of work completed on the comics in five years.
The LBE website has not been updated in about two years, and most of the links still point to the domain name that he lost a long time prior to the most recent update.

Talented:
This is a matter of opinion, but the majority (everybody but you) says that his work is far below professional standards.

Do you know J-Bolt? Have you ever spoken to him on the phone or in any form other than message boards? I have. He is not at all the guy you think he is. Have you spoken to any of the people he has claimed are involved in his project? I have.

"Decent, hardworking, talented guy"? Jim Fisher is the antithesis of this description. And you know it. Please, please, please, stop this obvious trolling. You can't possibly believe this. You're not that stupid. Are you really going to let your stubbornness and ego force you to continue to defend the indefensible?

TomStillwell
06-26-2006, 09:06 AM
Dammit. This makes CoH demo editting look primitive.

You can do some amazing stuff with COH's demo record feature and some edit work.

Check out the video my friend did for the our supergroup.

Click on the link. It's near the bottom of our gallery page and its titled The Founders.

http://www.freedomreborn-coh.com/gallery.php

Kid Dynamo is my character in the video.

Sorry to threadjack.

OMAR
06-26-2006, 09:26 AM
Well I appreciate you saying that Gail. Look, at the end of the day I think I'd qualify as a Gail Simone fan. Though I droppped Birds of Prey when Chuck left, it eventually became obvious that you were doing good things there, what with all the buzz. It wasn't anything personal, I was just really bummed out by Chuck's leaving as I was when he left Robin, Nightwing and before all that Detective. I used to love reading all those books every month but they all went to shit so fast. BOP was the only one I didn't even try after him and that turned out to be the only one worth it. After VU turned out to be so good I bought and read all the BOP tpbs at once, ending with the appearance of Lady Blackhawk and I look forward to the next one. The only serious mistep was (presumably) not your fault - the status quo changing in another book due to a crossover.

And more importantly, I've bought and used nothing but Nioxin shampoo and conditioner since you recommended it one day on the Warren Ellis forum. The only good reading that forum ever brought me, or, quite possibly, anyone. It's been years now, and though the only regular store near my house is Wal-Mart and I've never bought anything there and I never will, I go through the extra effort to get the Nioxin at a store further away or online.

All of this is by way of saying that my general feelings toward you are not negative, and I don't mean to pick a fight with you or your guests. Obviously J-Bolt is an incidiary creator, along the lines of a Dave Sim (without any of the misogyny of course). Though tempers have flared before and I'm sure they will again as J-Bolt's various artistic and commercial accomplishments are analyzed and dissected, I will make an effort, as I said last night, not to let my own contributions to such discussions be as heated as they got a few pages ago.

Cam63
06-26-2006, 09:33 AM
...and I'm drinking luke warm Fosters.

OMAR
06-26-2006, 09:35 AM
About that video, Tom. I can see the humor there, but I wish that your talents and time were devoted to a more deserving subject. Leni Reifenstahl, who's name I am almost certainly misspelling, was talented too. And like you, her films were enjoyed by their intended audience. But didn't they end up doing more harm than good in the long run? I see you on the path to becoming the YABS forum's answer to Leni Reifenstahl.

SUPERECWFAN1
06-26-2006, 09:39 AM
Once Chuck Dixon left Robin the heart of that character went with him. I will at least agree with Omar on that.

Guapo Méndez
06-26-2006, 09:43 AM
Not touching the Leni implications:

Omar, at least he's doing something. J-Bolt has sat on his cloud for 5 years now and there is nothing to show us that he's working on anything.

Don't forget J-Bolt claimed Marvel had moved Daredevil's premiere to be on Feb. 14th because that's when Bombshell was going to be premiered.

He didn't have stars signed up, equipment rented, film purchased
(or digital cameras ready), but Marvel had dared steal his release date.

So he pushed it one year forward. And that was when? 2 years ago?

Not too mention that his is the only production stars are not allowed to say they are in the role/run/lead. You keep plot points hush-hush, but you let people know the stars are there to guarantee box office.

He may very well be decent, hardworking and talented, but so far, he hasn't shown an iota of that.

Gail Simone
06-26-2006, 09:57 AM
And again, not to belabor the point, but the CO-PRODUCER says no film exists or ever will exist.

I mean, that says something, doesn't it?

Gail

Typo Lad
06-26-2006, 09:58 AM
Did... did Omar just break Godwin's law?

TomStillwell
06-26-2006, 10:25 AM
About that video, Tom. I can see the humor there, but I wish that your talents and time were devoted to a more deserving subject. Leni Reifenstahl, who's name I am almost certainly misspelling, was talented too. And like you, her films were enjoyed by their intended audience. But didn't they end up doing more harm than good in the long run? I see you on the path to becoming the YABS forum's answer to Leni Reifenstahl.

If the implications of all that means I spent an hour or so of my free time playing with a game I enjoy to bring a free smile to the faces of the folks here at YABS, then yeah, consider me Leni.

That's about three more minutes of film than J-Bolt ever brought into existence without me committing any acts of fraud or out right deception.

OMAR
06-26-2006, 10:35 AM
Did... did Omar just break Godwin's law?

No. Godwin's law is:

"As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one."

There's an argument to be made that I "proved" it in some way, but not that I broke it. If the thread had gone on forever, and no such reference was ever made, that would have broken it.

Some people say that anyone who proves Godwin's Law automatically loses the debate, but I've never believed that. It makes no sense to me. Hitler and Nazis are a part of history and life on earth. I won't shy away from referencing them.

In any case, I didn't mean to say that he was being anti-semetic or was helping an evil dictator gain power, just that his filmmaking abilities could be channeled in a more positive direction. I certainly don't think Tom's a nazi for what he did, sorry if that was unclear.

Typo Lad
06-26-2006, 10:38 AM
On behalf of all my family who died in the camps, I'll tell you that yes, it's offensive. Yeah, reference, but to compare someone to a Nazi sympathizer? That cheapens what they did to my people.

Edit: but you're right... prove, not break.

TomStillwell
06-26-2006, 10:54 AM
I let the Nazi comparison go without taking umberage with it. You're a troll.

That kind of stuff is expected and it's something you need to be prepared to deal with when dealing with trolls.

But this sticks in my craw. Which is probably why you posted it.

Hitler and Nazis are a part of history and life on earth. I won't shy away from referencing them.

Well bully for you! It's amazing the courage you display by not shying away from what was a horrible time in the history of our world and something a whole race of people would rather not be discussed let alone used as reference to "prove" some pathetic internet troll's supposed point.

Huzzah for you sirrah as you boldly use the slaughter of a generation as fodder in your debates.

That material is a bit dated though. I hear there's a treasure trove of tragedy to be netted from the genocide going on in Africa. Have at it, ye of unfaltering bravery!!!

Guapo Méndez
06-26-2006, 10:55 AM
Omar: you spewed a completely idiotic comment.

Then again, it's you. Why are we surprised?

Tell me, does J-Bolt pay you in franks or monopoly money?

Cam63
06-26-2006, 10:57 AM
He possibly sees your post as a compliment, Tom.

Cam63
06-26-2006, 10:59 AM
Omar: you spewed a completely idiotic comment.

Then again, it's you. Why are we surprised?

Tell me, does J-Bolt pay you in franks or monopoly money?

In beef jerky.

Red Jack
06-26-2006, 11:08 AM
Sorry to threadjack.


That's "Redjack!" Get it right!

Guapo Méndez
06-26-2006, 11:11 AM
In beef jerky.

Or they jerk beef. It be a strange friendship those two have.

I wonder which one of them is the lebian.

TomStillwell
06-26-2006, 11:11 AM
In beef jerky.

In Slim Jims. Get it?! Jim...Jim Fisher!!! See, that's...ah forget it. Tough room.

Guapo Méndez
06-26-2006, 11:17 AM
Are you kidding? The Slim Jim joke killed!

I wonder if they updated the Marquis De Sade's Who's Who to include him as the creator of Slim Jims, back when he was in grammar school.

OMAR
06-26-2006, 12:13 PM
I let the Nazi comparison go without taking umberage with it. You're a troll.

That kind of stuff is expected and it's something you need to be prepared to deal with when dealing with trolls.

But this sticks in my craw. Which is probably why you posted it.



Well bully for you! It's amazing the courage you display by not shying away from what was a horrible time in the history of our world and something a whole race of people would rather not be discussed let alone used as reference to "prove" some pathetic internet troll's supposed point.

Huzzah for you sirrah as you boldly use the slaughter of a generation as fodder in your debates.

That material is a bit dated though. I hear there's a treasure trove of tragedy to be netted from the genocide going on in Africa. Have at it, ye of unfaltering bravery!!!

Nazi victims would rather Hitler and Nazis not be discussed? That hasn't been my experience at all.

In any case, it was a word of caution on my part. I didn't make light of nazism or make a joke about it or "discuss" it.

I made a reference to the only fimmaker that I am aware of who, though viewed as talented, used that talent for propaganda and was judged harshly by history for it. I make no apologies for my intent.

If anything you should apologize for trying to score some cheap points, and you should take my warning to heart - don't head down the path of jumping on bandwagons and making films against people instead of for them.

OMAR
06-26-2006, 12:15 PM
Are you kidding? The Slim Jim joke killed!

I wonder if they updated the Marquis De Sade's Who's Who to include him as the creator of Slim Jims, back when he was in grammar school.

Ah, now there's a humorous reference to a mass murderer we can all get behind!

Gail Simone
06-26-2006, 12:30 PM
Ah, now there's a humorous reference to a mass murderer we can all get behind!

I may be dense, but what mass murderer? Are you talking about De Sade?

Gail

Typo Lad
06-26-2006, 12:30 PM
Nazi victims would rather Hitler and Nazis not be discussed? That hasn't been my experience at all.

As someone who lost family and grew up in a synagogue populated by Holocaust survivers, the issue isn't "discussing" - the issue is having their suffering cheapened.

Think of it this way: the Nazi's killed millions of Jews, Homosexuals, and others. Tom made fun of someone. Now, was what Tom did right? Maybe not. However, there's a big difference between mocking someone and genocide.

If you can't see that, than frankly, I don't think I can discuss this issue anymore.

Gail Simone
06-26-2006, 12:31 PM
Ah, now there's a humorous reference to a mass murderer we can all get behind!

I may be dense, but what mass murderer? Are you talking about De Sade?

Gail

Karl J. Barnes
06-26-2006, 12:46 PM
Tell me, does J-Bolt pay you in franks or monopoly money?

Bolt Bills, perhaps?

Lubichev
06-26-2006, 12:50 PM
I may be dense, but what mass murderer? Are you talking about De Sade?

Gail
Maybe he's talking about all the paper deSade destroyed with all that shitty writing.

Typo Lad
06-26-2006, 12:52 PM
Yeah, on the De Sade thing:

OMAR, you may be thinking of the DC character Desad. De Sade never actually killed anyone.

Here, read wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marquis_De_Sade

TomStillwell
06-26-2006, 12:54 PM
If anything you should apologize for trying to score some cheap points, and you should take my warning to heart - don't head down the path of jumping on bandwagons and making films against people instead of for them.

Apologize? No way. I made J-Bolt into a stud in that movie. He got to make out with a hawt chick and he killed a werewolf. J-Cool.

Yep, that's me. All about the cheap points. What's next? Maybe I'll interview myself to make me look inportant.

TStillwell: So when did you realize you were a gifted comic prodigy?

T-Bolt: It must have been right after I invented the wheel. I was pretty bored and I decided to write a comic book. That comic? Watchmen.

TStillwell: Watchmen? I thought Alan Moore wrote that?

T-Bolt: That's what DC Comics wants you think. It was all me. Superman too.

TStillwell: Impressive.

Lubichev
06-26-2006, 12:54 PM
on the nazi thing......
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c368/Lubichev/dk_nazipunks.jpg

OMAR
06-26-2006, 12:55 PM
I may be dense, but what mass murderer? Are you talking about De Sade?

Gail

I had learned in a class once that he poisoned a bunch of women. If that's inaccurate than I guess I owe an apology to his family, though I'm sure they have bigger worries than me when it comes to defending that guy's reputation.

Typo Lad
06-26-2006, 12:58 PM
OMAR: read the wiki link. He didn't "poison" them. He drugged them.

Both bad, but again, there's a difference.

OMAR
06-26-2006, 01:03 PM
As someone who lost family and grew up in a synagogue populated by Holocaust survivers, the issue isn't "discussing" - the issue is having their suffering cheapened.

Think of it this way: the Nazi's killed millions of Jews, Homosexuals, and others. Tom made fun of someone. Now, was what Tom did right? Maybe not. However, there's a big difference between mocking someone and genocide.

If you can't see that, than frankly, I don't think I can discuss this issue anymore.

Well to close out the subject I can only say that I in no way meant to cheapen the suffering of any victims of Nazism, and I'm sorry if that comparison disturbed you.

Typo Lad
06-26-2006, 01:07 PM
Not disturbed, insulted.

There's a difference.

OMAR
06-26-2006, 01:16 PM
Apologize? No way. I made J-Bolt into a stud in that movie. He got to make out with a hawt chick and he killed a werewolf. J-Cool.

Yep, that's me. All about the cheap points. What's next? Maybe I'll interview myself to make me look inportant.

TStillwell: So when did you realize you were a gifted comic prodigy?

T-Bolt: It must have been right after I invented the wheel. I was pretty bored and I decided to write a comic book. That comic? Watchmen.

TStillwell: Watchmen? I thought Alan Moore wrote that?

T-Bolt: That's what DC Comics wants you think. It was all me. Superman too.

TStillwell: Impressive.

I had thought that the subtext to your film was that by spreading his efforts too thin by working up such ancillary characters as Wolff, J-Bolt had put Bombshell in jeopardy of not getting to see her movie made. I didn't like that because of the implications for Draco. Bombshell is great, and I'm sure the movie will be too, but Draco is my personal favorite. When you had J-Bolt "kill" Wolff I was concerned that you were promoting the idea that Wolff and the others must (figuratively) die in order for the movie to be made. That was a big part of the reason I had a negative reaction to it, though it was certainly humorous. J-Bolt did misuse the word sentry in his postings, from what I can tell, and you played on some other humorous aspects of his situation quite well. At least you acknowledged Heather's existence.

Your parody of the interview is unfair, because J-Bolt didn't try to steal credit for any of Moore's works. And it hinges on JB Fisher being a fiction, which remains unproven. From what I remember the man's retired, but that doesn't mean he never existed. I'd point you toward the fact that he exposed some crooked business dealing of his own family members, as I recall has been stated more than once. That's the kind of biographical detail I don't think you'd find written about an imaginary person!

MacQuarrie
06-26-2006, 01:23 PM
Not disturbed, insulted.

There's a difference.
Dude, it's a J-Bolt thread. We follow the Humpty Dumpty School of linguistics and semantics when J-Bolt is invoked:

`When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, `it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less.'

`The question is,' said Alice, `whether you can make words mean so many different things.'

`The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, `which is to be master -- that's all.'

Alice was too much puzzled to say anything; so after a minute Humpty Dumpty began again. `They've a temper, some of them -- particularly verbs: they're the proudest -- adjectives you can do anything with, but not verbs -- however, I can manage the whole lot of them! Impenetrability! That's what I say!'

`Would you tell me please,' said Alice, `what that means?'

`Now you talk like a reasonable child,' said Humpty Dumpty, looking very much pleased. `I meant by "impenetrability" that we've had enough of that subject, and it would be just as well if you'd mention what you mean to do next, as I suppose you don't mean to stop here all the rest of your life.'

`That's a great deal to make one word mean,' Alice said in a thoughtful tone.

`When I make a word do a lot of work like that,' said Humpty Dumpty, `I always pay it extra.'

`Oh!' said Alice. She was too much puzzled to make any other remark.
God knows we're down the rabbit-hole anyway, we might as well have fun.

I declare this thread to be henceforth devoid of logic, reason or any of the dictates of reality. Let lunacy reign!

Karl J. Barnes
06-26-2006, 01:26 PM
I declare this thread to be henceforth devoid of logic, reason or any of the dictates of reality. Let lunacy reign!

NOW?!?! I thought that was when the post was posted on this thread?

Typo Lad
06-26-2006, 01:26 PM
Jim darling, while that was a very good use of a very good book, lets not pretend you're all logical on this topic.

thewn agian, you're man enough to admit that. I give you that.

oh and OMAR: way, way to over-analize. Now I know you're pulling my appendage.

Guapo Méndez
06-26-2006, 01:30 PM
I'd point you toward the fact that he exposed some crooked business dealing of his own family members, as I recall has been stated more than once. That's the kind of biographical detail I don't think you'd find written about an imaginary person!

He claims he did. Where's the newspaper article? Judicial transcript? Court date? Court appearance? Proof of Purchase? Sticker?