Is Namor becoming the new Wolverine?

[Seraphex]

Dark X-Men, Agents of Atlas, Fantastic Four, etc...

It seems as though Namor is the new "cameo of the week" character in Marvel comics. WTF? Namor? Green speedo and wings on his ankles NAMOR?

[Tracks]

I thought the new wolverine was deadpool....followed by punisher

[Grapeweasel]

I don't think I've bought a comic in the last 3 months that didn't have Norman Osborn in it....

[Tracks]

I don't think I've bought a comic in the last 3 months that didn't have Norman Osborn in it....

well that's different, he's pretty much leader of the entire marvel earth, however characters like deadpool and punisher appear in many series to try and boost sales

[pharoahe22]

Yeah I'd say if anybody it would be Norman Osborn if we're talking about appearances. before that it was Iron Man. I can't believe Deadpool has two books right now though...seems unnecessary even though I like DP a lot.

[Shyft]

Uh, Namor's awesome.

[XPac]

I'm glad Namor is being used more.

He's arguably marvel's first superhero. That deserves a bit of special treatment.

[daveageallen]

namor is badass, he needs a good on going. i loved depths. it was like the thing or someother sweet older horror film.

deadpool is so overused. i am tired of him in everything! seriously cut it out, he is in thunderbolts,hawkeye, cable. x-force, merc with a mouth, suicide king, his own series. ms marvel, punisher. it is so lame.

punisher used to be in everything, now its deadpool and untill the last few months wolverine.\

to be honest spiderman is in a lotof comics also, probally about 5 a month. i dont see why they cant use any other of their 4000000 characters in the U

[Shellhead]

Namor was the old "Wolverine" back when the real Wolverine was a C-lister that just joined the All-New, All-Different X-Men. At that time, Namor was regularly appearing in:

Sub-Mariner
Defenders
Invaders
Super-Villain Team-Up

and also making numerous guest appearances in comics like:

Fantastic Four
Marvel Spotlight
Marvel Two-in-One
Marvel Team-Up
Avengers

[ThisMortalSoil]

While I like Namor's current place in the Marvel universe, I could never get into the whole Atlantis thing. I like what he's doing now

[myslead]

I've always loved Namor, I'm thrilled that he's being used more.

[Omega Alpha]

I wouldn't mind if he wasn't being used poorly, which he was with Fraction (both in Iron Man and UXM). Though he was fine in AoA. But when did he appear last in FF? Has to be a few years at least.

[Iron Maiden]

Namor is a big part of this year's 70th Anniversary celebration for Marvel so it is only natural that he appears a lot this year, in addition to being in the Cabal. He doesn't have an ongoing title so these multiple appearances are one way to keep him a prominent character in the MU.

I think the last time he appeared in the FF itself was back in the Pacheco/Marin/Loeb run when he teamed up with Johnny, She-Hulk, Ant-Man and Namorita as a sort of temporary FF in #42-44 (vol 3).

[Blackhawkk]

You ever notice the only time Namor wears his green speedo is when Sue Richards is around?

[Hrist]

A lot of it just has to do with the Dark Reign status quo. See: his thing with Emma Frost. Loki and Doom and the rest of the cabal are showing up in more places too. Namor showing up in books like Agents of Atlas, which stars Namora, or the Invaders team-up in Captain America, seem like normal acts of guest-starring for him, because he does have ties to many sections of the Marvel Universe. He is like, the oldest character they have. I don't think Namor guest appearances help sales that much.

[Tracks]

namor is badass, he needs a good on going. i loved depths. it was like the thing or someother sweet older horror film.

deadpool is so overused. i am tired of him in everything! seriously cut it out, he is in thunderbolts,hawkeye, cable. x-force, merc with a mouth, suicide king, his own series. ms marvel, punisher. it is so lame.

punisher used to be in everything, now its deadpool and untill the last few months wolverine.\

to be honest spiderman is in a lotof comics also, probally about 5 a month. i dont see why they cant use any other of their 4000000 characters in the U have you seen punisher lately though? In suicide kings (with deadpool), his own ongoing, his own ongoing max series, he's due to appear in hulk (alongside deadpool and others), and he's also soon to be in anti-venoms story as well as the dark reign one-shot.

[Make Mine Mar-Vell]

I dunno...I love Wolverine, don't get me wrong, but when I see the thread title "Is Namor becoming the new Wolverine?" I stop for a second, and think to myself...

"Have we let Wolverine become the new Namor?"

[Mechano]

I dunno...I love Wolverine, don't get me wrong, but when I see the thread title "Is Namor becoming the new Wolverine?" I stop for a second, and think to myself...

"Have we let Wolverine become the new Namor?"

namor was the badass antihero loooong before it was even popular. as a matter of fact, he was probably first.... and i think that is how he is at his most interesting. OFF TOPIC... i hate it when people compare namor and aquaman...aquaman is one of the biggest ripoffs of a character ever.. END OFF TOPIC.

[coconutphone]

You ever notice the only time Namor wears his green speedo is when Sue Richards is around?

LOL Very true.

He is one of Marvel's first and best and deserves to be spread around. His histoyr gives him the ability to have great stories with tons of characters.

[Make Mine Mar-Vell]

namor was the badass antihero loooong before it was even popular. as a matter of fact, he was probably first.... and i think that is how he is at his most interesting. OFF TOPIC... i hate it when people compare namor and aquaman...aquaman is one of the biggest ripoffs of a character ever.. END OFF TOPIC.

Dude, me to. I with you on that. I completely agree he's not even in the same league, problem is, somebody thought so. Always kinda bothered me.

Anyways, seeing as how the character is one of the original anti-heros in comics, not to mention one of the original Marvel characters, he'd be treated better in the big picture. I always thought Captain America and Namor should have won in Marvel vs. DC. At the time, they needed the win more among other obvious reasons. Imagine the Rock as Namor.

[Libaax]

Namor cant become like Wolverine.... you dont care if there was a 10 Wolverine ongoings. You dont care not near enough to even read one of them.

Namor i wish there was an ongoing where you saw everything from his POV,narrative. He is awesome.

I could never get into the Atlantis thing,it seemed lame until i read him in Bru's Captain America where he is so interesting.

Now i wonder where can i read more of him !! Does he star or does he have supporting role in Agents of Atlas ?

Before i try to track down his more classic stories i wanted a current story where you can read Namor.

[Omega Alpha]

Problem is that a Namor ongoing would have to necessarily focus on his kingdom and his role as a king, which means being isolated from Earth and other superheroes, which means poor sales.

Unless Marvel had the guts of simply removing him from power for good, but that's not gonna happen.

[Libaax]

Problem is that a Namor ongoing would have to necessarily focus on his kingdom and his role as a king, which means being isolated from Earth and other superheroes, which means poor sales.

Unless Marvel had the guts of simply removing him from power for good, but that's not gonna happen.

A writer of the quality of Brubaker,Aaron etc would do that.

No character in superhero is interesting only as a king of alien kingdom or another powerful role.

He could do both. I mean he could like i have seen Cap America. Take interest in issues outside his kingdom.

[Bolebeau]

He could do both. I mean he could like i have seen Cap America. Take interest in issues outside his kingdom.

Does he even have a kingdom nowadays? I thought Nitro blew it to bits.

With Namor's current situation, an ongoing could work better for him now than it ever has.

[Make Mine Mar-Vell]

Namor cant become like Wolverine.... you dont care if there was a 10 Wolverine ongoings. You dont care not near enough to even read one of them.

Namor i wish there was an ongoing where you saw everything from his POV,narrative. He is awesome.

I could never get into the Atlantis thing,it seemed lame until i read him in Bru's Captain America where he is so interesting.

Now i wonder where can i read more of him !! Does he star or does he have supporting role in Agents of Atlas ?

Before i try to track down his more classic stories i wanted a current story where you can read Namor.

You know as much as I hate to admit it, because I like Namor and his "anti-hero" factor is so before it's time (and still relevant now as the thread title suggests), I can see what you're saying here.

"Underwater" type of characters are hard to write, and if it isn't just right, it becomes unrelatable to the reader no matter how cool the character is.

However, this could be changed with the right story and approach IMHO.

Personally I still love the Namor who takes out Nazi subs by simply swimming right through them, but there should be a modern way of approaching it.

I mean, think about it, the world is 3/4 water or something like that, right?

There's got to be a way of approaching it.

I'm thinking of the film "Abyss" for some reason, and the outerspace like implications theories of Egyptian time, the Aztecs, all of that stuff, and so forth....Do you see where I'm going with this?

A friend of mine and I were talking about it for years.

I'm just throwing out scenarios here to stir your imagination, I don't know if that's the right way to go or not, but my point being that there's a way to capitilize off of the character's noterity and edge while approaching the stories differently and utilizing what you have in the character to give it a more appealing comic series.

I think Duane Johnson (The Rock) would be an awesome Namor. I dunno, I guess you have to see it in my head.

I could see it as a film.

Just my two cents, thanks for listening.
*

[Libaax]

Does he even have a kingdom nowadays? I thought Nitro blew it to bits.

With Namor's current situation, an ongoing could work better for him now than it ever has.


Thats why i wondered where i can read Namor these days. I dont know where he is at currently in MU. Where do you find his story.

[Willow616]

The John Byrne 90's series was one of the very few things from that decade that didnt suck fish heads.

Namor has always been an incredible character as far as I'm concerned, cant believe its taken the X-Title's so long to claim him as their own!

[asdlkgh]

Namor is cool as shit. He's like Aquaman, except you know...not terrible. Definitely don't mind seeing more of Namor, especially when I think the attention he's getting is both well deserved and well done and makes sense.

I didn't think his Iron Man appearances was bad. Maybe a little bit shoe-horned, but I think the whole point of this World's Most Wanted arc is that Tony is getting assaulted by all of his enemies at the worst possible moment. The arc is just as much about Tony's supporting cast and rogues as it is himself. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Hulk making an appearance in the arc.

[Ziggy Stardust]

I don't think I've bought a comic in the last 3 months that didn't have Norman Osborn in it....

And dude should still be dead.

[Chief Jon]

Namor was the old "Wolverine" back when the real Wolverine was a C-lister that just joined the All-New, All-Different X-Men. At that time, Namor was regularly appearing in:

Sub-Mariner
Defenders
Invaders
Super-Villain Team-Up

and also making numerous guest appearances in comics like:

Fantastic Four
Marvel Spotlight
Marvel Two-in-One
Marvel Team-Up
Avengers

Exactly, Namor is reclaiming his title as Marvel's first and best flawed hero.

[psm]

i hate it when people compare namor and aquaman...aquaman is one of the biggest ripoffs of a character ever.. END OFF TOPIC.

Honestly, I find the current incarnation of Black Adam as a much bigger rip off of Namor. Worse part is how few people realize it.

[namor]

Thank You.....

[Robodojo]

Honestly, I find the current incarnation of Black Adam as a much bigger rip off of Namor. Worse part is how few people realize it.Don't agree. There are some similarities, but BA is very much his own character, and portrayed much darker & villainous than Namor.

They are both basically pricks, though. And we're all the better for it.

[Make Mine Mar-Vell]

If you're referring to my suggestion as The Rock as Namor in hypothetical film that capitilizes on Atlantis, "The Abyss", and all the hypothetical space related theories we've all heard about the Aztecs, and all of that stuff, let me explain...As a former wrestling journalist, I was suggesting Johnson long before the DC Shazam film ever came up (They should make a Mar-Vell movie, but that's another topic).

I don't mistake the characters, I just think there's a way of presenting Namor that hasn't been done, or done right yet. Meaning the situation's portrayal, the underwater aspect itself, because we all know the character has "it". I think Johnson, would be awesome as Namor, but I've been saying that since I was a kid.

[LiefeldFanatiX]

Problem is that a Namor ongoing would have to necessarily focus on his kingdom and his role as a king, which means being isolated from Earth and other superheroes, which means poor sales.

Unless Marvel had the guts of simply removing him from power for good, but that's not gonna happen.
Byrne did that in the '90s and it worked great. He proved you don't have to keep Namor in Atlantis to make him sell.

[Mick]

Uh, Namor's awesome.

Pretty much.

[coconutphone]

Byrne did that in the '90s and it worked great. He proved you don't have to keep Namor in Atlantis to make him sell.

Yep. Got most of that entire run. Just missing about 10 or so issues. Going to get those at the next bi-mon sci-fi con in August.

[spiderwire]

Is Namor hittin Emma? Will Cykes man up or move on? He can easily set up an underwater condo in the bay area.

[mikekerr3]

Does he even have a kingdom nowadays? I thought Nitro blew it to bits.

With Namor's current situation, an ongoing could work better for him now than it ever has.

He's got a new one, he only blew up a city, the kingdom was always there.

[mikekerr3]

Thats why i wondered where i can read Namor these days. I dont know where he is at currently in MU. Where do you find his story.
The last two issues of Agents of Atlas.

[Omega Alpha]

[QUOTE=spiderwire;9236540]Is Namor hittin Emma?/QUOTE]

He ain't got a chance. He thinks he will though, but Emma fooled him into thinking he had a shot and used that to her advantage, including manipulating his mind.

[lou-bert vs. q-bert]

Namor also has a very cool theme song:

Stronger than a whale,
He can swim anywhere.
He can breathe under water
And go flying through the air.

The noble Sub-Mariner
Prince of the Deep
So beware you deadly demons...

Lord Namor of Atlantis is the Prince of the Deep.