Exiles #4 Mini Review + Spoilers + Polaris! [Archive]

Daken Akihiro

07-01-2009, 11:30 PM

Didn't see a thread...

Loved the art, Polaris and the Witch have some great moments, great interactions, great dialogue. Panther got put in his place. Not all is as it first seems with these robots. And the ending made my eyes bulge. I hope "she" is okay...

Polaris chopped, dissected, rib cage exposed, head off, tubes attached?? WHA?? Noooooooo she rocked this issue!!

I need the next issue NOW!

9/10

CmX

07-01-2009, 11:38 PM

I was surprised to not see a thread for this issue already. This is probably the best issue so far IMO. I'm afraid the sales for this new volume are bad. But I don't blame the readers for being turned off from Exiles thanks to CC's shitty New Exiles.

The last page was HORRIBLE! I hope everything turns out okay next issue!

justinkos91

07-02-2009, 12:03 AM

Polaris chopped, dissected, rib cage exposed, head off, tubes attached?? WHA?? Noooooooo she rocked this issue!!

NO! :frown:

otipep_90

07-02-2009, 12:21 AM

pariah-1972

07-02-2009, 12:37 AM

WHAT?! thats just crazy man. Hopefully she doesn't become the first casualty of this new exiles team. More people need to read this book for sure. Its been just as good as the classic issues.

What if she becomes a cyborg after this?:confused:I just read an interview with Jeff who thinks death is a pretty dead concept to him(excuse the pun), so i don't think she's going to be totally dead.

Drey

07-02-2009, 12:42 AM

I flipped through it at the comic shop. I was a bit sad. I've been wishy washy with the series lately. I picked up the first issue then decided to drop it. A friend let me borrow the second issue and the story was interesting so I picked up the third issue (not to mention my friend dropped it after #2 so I had to buy it if I wanted to find out the ending). Now I'm dropping it again lol.

I'm streamlining my comics and right now Exiles isn't a must read for me. Too many one-shots/minis coming out right now. I thought I was cool dropping T-Bolts, Cable, and Exiles but I think I'm right back where I started but with different titles!

otipep_90

07-02-2009, 12:42 AM

I just read an interview with Jeff who thinks death is a pretty dead concept to him(excuse the pun), so i don't think she's going to be totally dead.

Well I wasn't hoping for her to die but I hope we do eventually have new members coming in some how. It would be different and refreshing if we had two exiles team going on at the same time and see how they would react to one another since thery are fairly new at this. Or an anti-exiles team that blunders the mutliverse like pirates/mercenaries.

CmX

07-02-2009, 12:43 AM

She's on future covers so I'm assuming she survives.

pariah-1972

07-02-2009, 12:44 AM

Well I wasn't hoping for her to die but I hope we do eventually have new members coming in some how. It would be different and refreshing if we had two exiles team going on at the same time and see how they would react to one another since thery are fairly new at this. Or an anti-exiles team that blunders the mutliverse like pirates/mercenaries.I'm sure you don't need deaths to rotate members in and out.

Flâneur

07-02-2009, 12:48 AM

otipep_90

07-02-2009, 12:51 AM

I'm sure you don't need deaths to rotate members in and out.

Yeah I know there doesn't need to be deaths for characters to come in and out. At least half of the members from previous incarnations left for new worlds they that became their homes. What I liked about the Exiles to begin with was the sence of danger, which that last page provides but I want to see sojme heroic sacrifices and tragic deaths too. I just hope the cats changes a bit after the first year.

timbox

07-02-2009, 05:11 AM

Dead Polaris corpse scans, please.

just another user

07-02-2009, 05:15 AM

Isn't one of the main points about Exiles that anyone can die at any time?

Also, lol at people blaming bad sales for this series on CC.

Optic Rage!

07-02-2009, 05:23 AM

Dead Polaris corpse scans, please.

As per your request

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/5762/exilesv40040024.jpg

The Sword Is Drawn

07-02-2009, 05:25 AM

I've had to drop this one. It's not bad, it's just that I can't afford to buy as many books as Marvel drive the prices up. I put it off for a while, but this one just isn't shining.

I realised it was the second series by Parker I've dropped this month. Agents of Atlas has gone for a similar reason. Not bad, just not brilliant.

timbox

07-02-2009, 05:30 AM

As per your request

Nice! It looks like her heart is being preserved in that tube. Maybe Polaris will be the next No-Girl, heart instead of brain.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/58/Martha.PNG

just another user

07-02-2009, 05:30 AM

Polaris is a robot? Where's all the blood and organs? I don't think she's dead after all. :frown:

worstblogever

07-02-2009, 05:40 AM

Polaris is a robot? Where's all the blood and organs? I don't think she's dead after all. :frown:

I was telling my friend who works at my LCS, the same thing. And I thought, well, Lorna's origin story involved her finding out she had a daddy, and it was Magneto, sort of. It was a robot duplicate made my Machinesmith.

Maybe on her Earth, she also was replaced with a robot by Machinesmith? Or maybe, she's been replaced by one just now, here, by Jocasta?

Or maybe the artist here was asked to tone down the gore, in a big way, and make her dissection look sanitized. Tough call. I could go either way, at this point.

Good issue. Looking forward to when the Exiles all give Blink hell for vanishing at such a critical moment.

Optic Rage!

07-02-2009, 06:02 AM

Doubt Lorna is dead, i figure they are just going to remake her into a robot. That's still a brilliant picture though.

Also, good issue, but not much happend.

Sandy Hausler

07-02-2009, 06:03 AM

Dead Polaris corpse scans, please.

Uh, why don't you just buy the book. Sheesh!

Sandy Hausler

Optic Rage!

07-02-2009, 06:04 AM

Uh, why don't you just buy the book. Sheesh!

Sandy Hausler

Yeah Timbox, GOD. Why don't you just go out and buy the book??

Sandy Hausler

07-02-2009, 06:04 AM

Isn't one of the main points about Exiles that anyone can die at any time?

Also, lol at people blaming bad sales for this series on CC.

Who do you want to blame? The artist? The editor. Claremont's run was just bad.

Sandy Hausler

timbox

07-02-2009, 06:06 AM

Uh, why don't you just buy the book. Sheesh!

Sandy Hausler

I’m still waiting for my disability check to come in.

Twisted Bliss

07-02-2009, 06:37 AM

Robo-Lorna and Sage = Binary Orgasm

just another user

07-02-2009, 06:41 AM

Who do you want to blame? The artist? The editor. Claremont's run was just bad.

Sandy Hausler

I don't particularly need to blame anyone. But saying it is due to a writer who isn't even connected to the book is a bit strange.

blinkinrogue

07-02-2009, 07:18 AM

my impression too was that lorna was a robot, or maybe a cyborg? there should have been some hint of blood though.

could it also be possible this is not the exiles' lorna, but the lorna of this reality?

timbox

07-02-2009, 07:21 AM

my impression too was that lorna was a robot, or maybe a cyborg? there should have been some hint of blood though.

Jocasta is the Ice Truck killer. The only robots that have hearts are the brand new terminators. Lorna has been around too long to be one of those.

Josef F.

07-02-2009, 07:24 AM

jocasta Will Cut You Up With Her Knife.

frog

07-02-2009, 07:25 AM

I just read an interview with Jeff who thinks death is a pretty dead concept to him(excuse the pun), so i don't think she's going to be totally dead.

I wish more writers would adopt this attitude. You shouldn't have to kill someone off for your writing to make an impact.

Flâneur

07-02-2009, 08:02 AM

Isn't one of the main points about Exiles that anyone can die at any time?

Also, lol at people blaming bad sales for this series on CC.
Quesada explained that Claremont is radioactive. Accept it, jau.

I've had to drop this one. It's not bad, it's just that I can't afford to buy as many books as Marvel drive the prices up. I put it off for a while, but this one just isn't shining.

I realised it was the second series by Parker I've dropped this month. Agents of Atlas has gone for a similar reason. Not bad, just not brilliant.
Thank you for your contribution.

You should totes come back to this book though, it looks like it's going places!

Beast

07-02-2009, 08:05 AM

I wish more writers would adopt this attitude. You shouldn't have to kill someone off for your writing to make an impact.
Yeah, that's why Jeff is one of my favorite writers. He's just awesome sauce.

Siddon

07-02-2009, 09:38 AM

Yeah I'm not so sure that Jocasta isn't just building a robot Lorna or robot dupes of Exiles.

Somebody

07-02-2009, 10:18 AM

Three points about the Polaris reveal:
1) She's clearly not dead, given the tubes going into her head, including from the heart-in-a-jar. Now, that certainly doesn't mean she's in a good place, but still...
2) If this was a robot-double Jocasta was constructing... why WOULD there be tubes going into her head or a heart in a jar?
3) The tranquilliser dart worked on her earlier in the issue. If she was 100% robot, it wouldn't have done so.

What this all adds up to... not sure. The only possibilities seem to involve her being a cyborg though - first, she may have been a cyborg all along. Second, all the newbies may have been turned into cyborgs as part of saving them from their "deaths" (no, I don't think this is the case, but it's still worth mentioning as a possibility). Third, Jocasta could be turning her into a cyborg now.

Perhaps more important though... the reveal that Blink doesn't know who they're working for, and has precious little detail in general. Odds that they're ACTUALLY being sent "to make things wrong that once went right", anyone...?

Flâneur

07-02-2009, 10:32 AM

I've decided that Lorna must come out of this as just a head, still with powers, that the others must carry around.

alf_to_the_rescue

07-02-2009, 12:11 PM

I don't particularly need to blame anyone. But saying it is due to a writer who isn't even connected to the book is a bit strange.

Some of my friends weren't picking this up because they thought Claremont was still attached to it. I had to explain that it was pure and free of his taint this time.

AcesX1X

07-02-2009, 12:16 PM

do you guys think that sage has orchestrated this recent development with lorna? now that she is a part of the crystal palace, has she decided that others need to become like her too?

is she having jacosta turn lorna into a robot on purpose?!

Personamanx

07-02-2009, 12:20 PM

I'll be picking this up.

Beast

07-02-2009, 12:23 PM

I've decided that Lorna must come out of this as just a head, still with powers, that the others must carry around.
If she had her powers, she wouldn't need to be carried. She could just fly around.

Sean Walsh

07-02-2009, 12:31 PM

Polaris chopped, dissected, rib cage exposed, head off, tubes attached?? WHA?? Noooooooo she rocked this issue!!

Good lord! I've never seen a CBR spoiler tag hide such a spew-worthy line of text in my CBR-posting days! :eek:

Beast

07-02-2009, 01:22 PM

Finally got around to getting this week's books....

Very good issue. Certainly looks like Ultron, Jocasta, Machine Man, and Vision are good guys.

Since they don't want to uplink with Cerebro and claimed not to be attacking in the desert.

Can't wait for the next issue. This one was just great.

Excelsior

07-02-2009, 01:48 PM

Some of my friends weren't picking this up because they thought Claremont was still attached to it. I had to explain that it was pure and free of his taint this time.

Maybe Parker should have his name replace the logo for an Issue.

JEFF PARKER'S
eXiles

enhanced for those who cant read small print. :tongue:

alf_to_the_rescue

07-02-2009, 01:50 PM

Maybe Parker should have his name replace the logo for an Issue.

JEFF PARKER'S
eXiles

enhanced for those who cant read small print. :tongue:

Possibly, they just didn't realise it was being relaunched with a new writer. They assumed it was the same old shit.

Waterlily

07-02-2009, 01:53 PM

I was AGHAST at the final page, wondering how Polly would get out of that situation but then I went OH NO! because this was Exiles and so maybe she doesn't.

This is pretty much the best the Exiles have been since their AoA crossover in like, #60 of the original issues.

I may be getting this.

As per your request

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/5762/exilesv40040024.jpg

Okay, I will be getting this.

Excelsior

07-02-2009, 01:53 PM

Possibly, they just didn't realise it was being relaunched with a new writer. They assumed it was the same old shit.

We should spread the word then..How about an eXiles X-week???

alf_to_the_rescue

07-02-2009, 01:58 PM

We should spread the word then..How about an eXiles X-week???

We would need billboards and full page spreads in newspapers.

Sandy Hausler

07-02-2009, 03:02 PM

I don't particularly need to blame anyone. But saying it is due to a writer who isn't even connected to the book is a bit strange.

My comment dealt with Claremont's run on New Exiles. He certainly WAS connected to that. I like the new book just fine. More than fine, in fact.

Sandy Hausler

otipep_90

07-02-2009, 03:10 PM

Yeah I think an exiles-week is in store. :biggrin:

CrimsonComedian

07-02-2009, 08:00 PM

What was with the panther and the exiles as a whole aside from polaris. Gosh they sucked especially panther. Gets one kick in then does nothing the whole book. Polaris is showing why she gets underused in the mu. She's too powerful to be just a lackey or team member but isn't well respected enough yet to be a leader or have her own solo.

Faded

07-04-2009, 02:01 PM

I was wondering where the thread for this was...

Three points about the Polaris reveal:
1) She's clearly not dead, given the tubes going into her head, including from the heart-in-a-jar. Now, that certainly doesn't mean she's in a good place, but still...
2) If this was a robot-double Jocasta was constructing... why WOULD there be tubes going into her head or a heart in a jar?
3) The tranquilliser dart worked on her earlier in the issue. If she was 100% robot, it wouldn't have done so.

What this all adds up to... not sure. The only possibilities seem to involve her being a cyborg though - first, she may have been a cyborg all along. Second, all the newbies may have been turned into cyborgs as part of saving them from their "deaths" (no, I don't think this is the case, but it's still worth mentioning as a possibility). Third, Jocasta could be turning her into a cyborg now.

Perhaps more important though... the reveal that Blink doesn't know who they're working for, and has precious little detail in general. Odds that they're ACTUALLY being sent "to make things wrong that once went right", anyone...?

I think she was a robot all along.

If you recall when Ultron, Vision, and Stack were watching the Exiles, he mentioned only four of them were mutants.

Having not read the first issue, I presumed it was Black Panther and maybe Forge, but now I'm guessing it would be Polaris.

I think its a pretty cool twist.

Seikun21

07-04-2009, 03:32 PM

If you recall when Ultron, Vision, and Stack were watching the Exiles, he mentioned only four of them were mutants.

I thought they were saying that at their "Cleansing" they had destroyed the last 4 mutants in North America. And they wanted to know how these 6 had survived the Cleansing.

Beast

07-04-2009, 03:57 PM

Actually, what Cerebro says is...

Cerebro: "There are still Homo-Superior at large. This does not correspond -- visual matching shows four mutants who were at ground zero during the clensing."

So four of the mutants who are there, were in America when everyone was wiped out.

That doesn't mean that there is only 4 mutants in the group.

My guess, Jocasta was just taking Polaris apart to figure out how to evolve their machine life into organic life forms. Or how to create a hybrid organism. Since Ultron, Vision, and Machine Man appear to possibly be disgusted by what Cerebro has become. Since there's no actual parts of Lorna that look robotic, everything metallic on her body seems to have been attached during the examination.

Faded

07-04-2009, 03:57 PM

I thought they were saying that at their "Cleansing" they had destroyed the last 4 mutants in North America. And they wanted to know how these 6 had survived the Cleansing.

Ohhhh maybe lol.

I was iffy about that line, but figured it referred to them being four mutants because of the last page reveal.

quillero

07-04-2009, 04:01 PM

scouse mouse

07-06-2009, 11:08 AM

I love this book! Its just like the classic Exiles with a real sense of fun and adventure. Parkers script is funny to boot. The artwork wasn't as good as the first three issues but was still nice and bright. I'm just gutted the sales are so low already! Its doubtful we will get another hundred issue run this time:frown:

blinkinrogue

07-06-2009, 12:04 PM

is the artist from the first arc coming back? sales i think are not that bad, almost all the comics out are not selling as high as, say, a couple of months ago. just keep supporting exiles and it will reach #100 :cool:

scouse mouse

07-06-2009, 01:17 PM

Espin is coming back for issue 6 (Yay). I'm definitely not giving up on this Exiles. Only the return of Claremont could drive me away now!

sschroeder

07-10-2009, 04:20 PM

Just read this issue today. Liked it. Really solid all around, as expected. I dig all the robots. Maybe L10 would have been handy on this mission! And that last page brings to mind a certain issue of Byrne's West Coast Avengers. So that was cool.

sales i think are not that bad, almost all the comics out are not selling as high as, say, a couple of months ago. just keep supporting exiles and it will reach #100 :cool:

I noticed the estimated/relative sales for issue # 2 on The Beat (http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/07/07/marvel-month-to-month-sales-may-2009/) last night. This sells lower than I expected or hoped it would at least. But then, as you say, all comics seem to sell less lately.

Perhaps it will stabilize there, so we can enjoy it for a while yet. I expect to continue reading, and it would be nice to enjoy Parker's efforts on this (and Atlas) long into the future yet.

jmc247

07-10-2009, 04:55 PM

I noticed the estimated/relative sales for issue # 2 on The Beat (http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/2009/07/07/marvel-month-to-month-sales-may-2009/) last night. This sells lower than I expected or hoped it would at least. But then, as you say, all comics seem to sell less lately.

Perhaps it will stabilize there, so we can enjoy it for a while yet. I expect to continue reading, and it would be nice to enjoy Parker's efforts on this (and Atlas) long into the future yet.

According to the prelim numbers for June sales did stabilize for the 3rd issue. It looks like it pulled about the same as the second issue.... possibly even a bit more, but we will have to wait for the final numbers to be sure.

103 Exiles 3: 22.34

http://www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales/2009/2009-06.html