Red Robin #2 Discussion+preview+Spoilers [Archive]

Jorriss

07-01-2009, 12:47 PM

Aghh, that's so many pages. I feel like I should wait and just read the entire issue at once. That being said, I already failed and read them. Looks good, it's a nice parallel with the world noticing that this new Batman is different, and that the new Robin is also different. In addition, to just civilians wondering, where the hell is tim?

Alexx1

07-01-2009, 01:47 PM

I'm liking the direction of the story. Just wish DC had giving Yost a better artist.

CMBMOOL

07-01-2009, 01:47 PM

I got to admit It was nice to see Alfred within this preview, but I wonder how he would take Tim's leaving. :frown:

Alexx1

07-01-2009, 01:52 PM

^^And I guess Detective Harper hasn't left Gotham for Metropolis yet.

Will.S

07-01-2009, 07:57 PM

Well at least the art looks much cleaner thanks to Art Thibert being on inks.

Honestly I would prefer a better artist but given DC's slowly dwindling talent pool they seem to be having to make with what they've got.

Grievous

07-01-2009, 08:02 PM

I really enjoyed the first issue and this preview was great as well.
I'm so glad to have Yost at DC, and writing Tim to boot.

Seraku

07-01-2009, 08:37 PM

anyone else take delight in seeing Tim Drake go completely insane?

nepenthes

07-01-2009, 08:55 PM

I'm geting this next week instead of Batman

I hope Yost continues to use lots of familiar supporting characters i.e Dick, Ra's, Spoiler, Alfred. Just so it still feels like a batman book. This is the most I've ever liked Tim Drake

in particular he really should use HUNTRESS

Psavell2

07-01-2009, 10:04 PM

I'm geting this next week instead of Batman

I'm still getting both, but this one's my favorite right now.

Personamanx

07-02-2009, 11:47 AM

I'll be getting this I enjoyed the first issue.

Karl O'Neill

07-02-2009, 11:53 AM

anyone else take delight in seeing Tim Drake go completely insane?

Yes! He will do well in the end.

Tim is a survivor!:cool:

zur en arrh

07-02-2009, 12:08 PM

This is my second favorite Batman book as it stands so far, so I'm really looking forward to it. I browsed the pages, but didn't read anything, as I like to read the entire book at once instead of a preview before it comes out. Looks good though.

Karl O'Neill

07-02-2009, 12:14 PM

This book is more popular than I though.

I liked the first issue and i like yost's writing so i reckon it will do pretty well.

I wish the art was better all the same.

Bat_Fan2232

07-02-2009, 12:15 PM

didnt read the pages but i flipped through them and I CANT WAIT!!!

This is by far my favorite of all the batman stuff right now. Im glad to see alfred appearing but im curious to see how he reacts to Tim leaving?

Alexx1

07-02-2009, 04:23 PM

I'm geting this next week instead of Batman

in particular he really should use HUNTRESS

I totally agree!

carloshll726

07-08-2009, 10:12 AM

How did RR's secret identity go from Jason Bard to Tim Drake? :eek:

IvCNuB4

07-08-2009, 12:42 PM

I hope Yost continues to use lots of familiar supporting characters i.e ... Ra's ..

Then you'll love the last 2 pages of this issue :biggrin:

Karl O'Neill

07-08-2009, 12:47 PM

So was this issue as good as the first one? I was quite suprized with how much I enjoyed this first issue.

I think i will get this instead of gotham city sirens.

zur en arrh

07-08-2009, 01:06 PM

I didn't enjoy this one quite as much as Red Robin #1, but I did enjoy it. Tim is starting to grow on me as a character.

The Lucky One

07-08-2009, 01:55 PM

The emotional, overinvested Robin fan in me frowned on Tim's treatment of Ives(!) and Steph. (Although huge kudos to Yost for, oh, remembering Ives exists instead of pretending Tim never had a best friend until Kon came along.) Ives, at least, certainly deserves better, and while Steph has made her share of mistakes, she's at least doing it out of concern for his well-being. Kicking a girl so hard she almost vomits and then not offering her a hand up is stone cold, Tim.

But stepping out of the fanboy mold for a second, I'm definitely enjoying the book (something I was very unsure of) and its portrayal of Tim. Anytime Tim is shown as the professional badass he is instead of being portrayed as an inexperienced chump because we need to make Jason or Dick or someone else look comparatively more experienced, it's a good thing. Tim's running analysis of the battle was particularly welcome, a nice reminder that he's the most intellectual of all the Robins and the one most likely to inherit Bruce's title of "world's greatest detective."

Bonus points for mentally referring to Barry as "Mr. Allen." :wink:

-D

asdlkgh

07-08-2009, 02:39 PM

I like this book! A lot fo the reviews seem to be pretty "meh" but I think it had a rpetty strong opening issue. Insane Tim is awesome, love the new direction. I'm really loving the entire direction the Batuniverse is going actually.

I think the Red Robin costume looks cool.. but the name is kind of lame. He should change it to "Cardinal" makes more sense with the color scheme, doesn't have him named after a food chain, separates him from Robin and keeps the bird theme.

KuwabaraTheMan

07-08-2009, 05:17 PM

The emotional, overinvested Robin fan in me frowned on Tim's treatment of Ives(!) and Steph. (Although huge kudos to Yost for, oh, remembering Ives exists instead of pretending Tim never had a best friend until Kon came along.) Ives, at least, certainly deserves better, and while Steph has made her share of mistakes, she's at least doing it out of concern for his well-being. Kicking a girl so hard she almost vomits and then not offering her a hand up is stone cold, Tim.

Yeah, but I think that's kind of the point. We're seeing Tim broken down, paranoid, and cutting himself off from everyone who cares about him. I doubt it will last permanently, but it's an interesting direction to take the character in and see where he goes.

But stepping out of the fanboy mold for a second, I'm definitely enjoying the book (something I was very unsure of) and its portrayal of Tim. Anytime Tim is shown as the professional badass he is instead of being portrayed as an inexperienced chump because we need to make Jason or Dick or someone else look comparatively more experienced, it's a good thing. Tim's running analysis of the battle was particularly welcome, a nice reminder that he's the most intellectual of all the Robins and the one most likely to inherit Bruce's title of "world's greatest detective."

Bonus points for mentally referring to Barry as "Mr. Allen." :wink:

-D

Agreed. Yost really showed just how smart and on the ball Tim is in this issue. I like how he was able to keep track of everything during the fight and look badass while doing it.

agentofthebat

07-08-2009, 06:21 PM

i really really really enjoyed this issue! I cant wait for the next issue. The ending has got me hooked.

Quinnhop

07-08-2009, 06:23 PM

I love Chris Yost.

I like Tim Drake.

I love the Red Robin costume.

I liked this issue.

BloodOps

07-08-2009, 07:13 PM

Really enjoyed this issue and enjoying the series so far as a whole. They really are starting to make Tim a huge badass. Wasn't the biggest fan of him treating Steph like crap but I can kinda understand him.

CMBMOOL

07-08-2009, 07:44 PM

Quick question...

Even though some of us are disappointed in Tim's treatment to Spoiler, can't anyone see that in a way he's right about Bruce being alive ?

I mean if Spoiler can have her own death fake and Connor and Bart can come back via the Future, who to say that Bruce "the Freaking Batman" Wayne is to remain dead ?

The same Bruce Wayne who escaped hundreds of Deathtraps all his life, and that what this one is...Another "deathtrap" but lately it's one where he can't find a way out... yet. :tongue:

I wonder how Dick would feel if he found some evidence showing Bruce is alive, but is lost in time ?

How would Dick and everyone else feel when they see that Tim is right ? :tongue:

pressdarlings

07-08-2009, 08:11 PM

I think the Red Robin costume looks cool.. but the name is kind of lame. He should change it to "Cardinal" makes more sense with the color scheme, doesn't have him named after a food chain, separates him from Robin and keeps the bird theme.

My vote for Cardinal. Red Robin is a terrible, terrible name.

Redrumbin

07-08-2009, 08:20 PM

It was surprisingly better than the first issue. I was hoping Tim would be talking to himself more like in the old Robin days. Pretty good. I like how he refers to other people in the DC ( Redwing, awww :) ).

Kiryu

07-08-2009, 10:23 PM

I liked this issue more then I liked the first, which I didn't really care for. The best non-B&R/Detective Comics offering is still the Manhunter back-up in Streets Of Gotham, but this is alright too.

numberONE

07-09-2009, 01:18 AM

First off, I agree, Red Robin is a lame name. Why not Dark Robin or something?

I liked this issue, but I found the time shifts confusing. Mind you, I'm not feeling very well today, and I'm a bit brain dead, so that could have something to do with it.

I wasn't sure what to make of this darker Tim Drake, sorry, I mean, Tim Wayne. But it makes sense, since both Tim's parents have died, and now, even his adoptive father. Look what happened to Bruce when his parents died...and he still had Alfred.

nepenthes

07-09-2009, 01:32 AM

another great issue. I'm on board

Can someone tell me what the problem is between Steph and Tim recently ? short version is ok

I't be funny if this book had a different title every couple of months as Tim tries on new codenames ha

really looking forward to see where this goes.

agentofthebat

07-09-2009, 05:03 AM

I just read it again. I liked it better the second time threw even more. Im sold. Just give me more Red Robin!

Still dreaming of a Red Robin Azrael Crossover!

AiyokuSama

07-09-2009, 06:39 AM

Can someone tell me what the problem is between Steph and Tim recently ?

The most recent is that shes' still in the spoiler costume after he told her to give up the life. before that, she'd been asked by Batman to help make Tim a "better Robin" so to hired Scarab and tried to get other b-list villains to help her challenge Tim. And before that, she hid evidence of Batman seeming to go nuts on the streets during RIP.

IvCNuB4

07-09-2009, 06:46 AM

How did RR's secret identity go from Jason Bard to Tim Drake? :eek:

Big Batman fan are ya ? Jason Bard is The Demon, Etrigan.
I think you mean Jason Todd :biggrin:

AiyokuSama

07-09-2009, 06:52 AM

Big Batman fan are ya ? Jason Bard is The Demon, Etrigan.
I think you mean Jason Todd :biggrin:

I think YOU me Jason Blood, not Bard :wink: Bard is the PI that Babs dated briefly and who was the daylight operative for Batman.

The Lucky One

07-09-2009, 07:18 AM

The most recent is that shes' still in the spoiler costume after he told her to give up the life. before that, she'd been asked by Batman to help make Tim a "better Robin" so to hired Scarab and tried to get other b-list villains to help her challenge Tim. And before that, she hid evidence of Batman seeming to go nuts on the streets during RIP.

...plus she had the temerity to visit Tim at Dick's behest to see if he was alright. :wink:

I understand where Tim's coming from, and it's not like Steph hasn't earned some distrust, but it is a bit amusing the stuff he now considers to be a betrayal. I can see it now:

"Tim... Tim, I'm sorry, I know you asked for Cocoa Pebbles but the store didn't have them, I had to get Cocoa Puffs instead."
"WHAT?!! OH, HOW SHARPER THAN A SERPENT'S STING YOUR BETRAYAL, STEPHANIE!"
"But I-"
"NO MORE, JUDAS! BEGONE FROM MY SIGHT, AND WEAR NOT THAT SPOILER COSTUME ANY LONGER!"
"....okay."

-D

IvCNuB4

07-09-2009, 08:06 AM

I think YOU me Jason Blood, not Bard :wink: Bard is the PI that Babs dated briefly and who was the daylight operative for Batman.

LOL - I stand corrected ! :biggrin:

Jimmy'sFriend

07-09-2009, 10:14 AM

Here's my review of Red Robin #2

With the reshuffling of all Bat-titles, Tim Drake, no longer a sidekick, is on his own with an attitude and Red Robin tights. Drake is in Paris, searching for proof that Bruce Wayne is alive. He successfully dodges an assassination attempt and learns who is behind it. He discovers that a foe from Batman’s past is also convinced that the Caped Crusader is not dead.

Author Chris Yost falls into the trap of writing cheesy dialogue and predictable plot points. His attempt to make Drake a badass is laughable. His interior monologues are sadly moronic – if that’s really what’s going on inside his head, poor Bruce Wayne will never be found! Please Chris, keep Tim’s thoughts to himself. His “torrid” relationship with the Spoiler is comic book writing at its worst!

Ramon Bachs delivers stronger pencils than Yost’s writing. The two- page panel of Red Robin swinging into a villain on a Parisian rooftop is pretty cool. There are weak moments in some of the smaller panels, but overall, the art is good.

At the end of this issue, Red Robin gets a lead and it holds some promise for a more exciting future. After two issues, Tim is proving to be a better sidekick and than solo hero.

2 out of 5

WorstThingUS

07-09-2009, 10:53 AM

Author Chris Yost falls into the trap of writing cheesy dialogue and predictable plot points. His attempt to make Drake a badass is laughable. His interior monologues are sadly moronic – if that’s really what’s going on inside his head, poor Bruce Wayne will never be found! Please Chris, keep Tim’s thoughts to himself. His “torrid” relationship with the Spoiler is comic book writing at its worst!

I'm not a fan of this book either. It may be the first to go for me and I hate saying that because I love both Robin and Tim Drake...however, how'd we get from Tim dressing up as Batman because he cared so much about having a Batman in Gotham to this guy? I can't see a fight over Damien causing this unless Dick outright kicked him out and he wouldn't do that, knowing Tim had just lost is "second father." Speaking of which, this "Tim Wayne" stuff isn't flying with me either. I don't see Tim doing that to his dad. And while if anyone deserves the right to flip out, it's Tim at least two of the reasons are gone now that Connor and Bart are back. And while their return does justify his hope that Bruce can be found, he'd be in a much healthier state of mind about it.

Bachs delivers stronger pencils than Yost’s writing.

I find them both equally sub-par. I'll stick with the first arc, but if it doesn't improve, I'm gone.

The Lucky One

07-09-2009, 11:00 AM

After two issues, Tim is proving to be a better sidekick and than solo hero.

Wouldn't that be "After one hundred and eighty-five issues"? :confused:

-D

Abeja

07-09-2009, 11:44 AM

I think Dick is gonna have a problem with Tim and Ras teaming up. Ras could be using Tims detective skills to find the REAL remains of Bruce to put in a laz pit. But I could be way off.

Seraku

07-09-2009, 12:10 PM

don't know about you guys, but the only thing keeping me around is my schadenfreude of how badly Tim's life has become and his plummet down the elevator shaft of crazy

jbwbubba

07-10-2009, 01:43 PM

First off, I agree, Red Robin is a lame name. Why not Dark Robin or something?

I .

I agree about the name, funny that Yost even plays with it in this issue. Including the name 'Red Wing'. Be interesting if by the end of the series Tim is no longer 'Red Robin'.

Karl O'Neill

07-10-2009, 01:44 PM

Don't know. i think this comic is pretty good so far. I am pleasently surprized how much more I am enjoying this. I prefer this than Gotham city sirens and streets of gotham so far.

nepenthes

07-10-2009, 05:25 PM

Characters I want to see appear in Red Robin:
Huntress
Azrael
more Damian
Henri Ducard! (European, detective, featured in Robin Hero is Born, it makes sense)

The most recent is that shes' still in the spoiler costume after he told her to give up the life. before that, she'd been asked by Batman to help make Tim a "better Robin" so to hired Scarab and tried to get other b-list villains to help her challenge Tim. And before that, she hid evidence of Batman seeming to go nuts on the streets during RIP.

thanks

Author Chris Yost falls into the trap of writing cheesy dialogue and predictable plot points

such as?

how cheesy is it compared to the majority of hero comics you'd find on the stands

pariah-1972

07-10-2009, 06:08 PM

This issue was so boring to me i was excited about the short Spoiler cameo and i'm not even that crazy about her.

I'm kind of hoping she sticks around but since she was only in the flashback and not in the present i don't have much faith.

Lupek

07-10-2009, 09:07 PM

I liked this. I had planned to drop all the Bat books but this one is keeping my interest. Please no Redwing! lol.

Psavell2

07-10-2009, 09:41 PM

Characters I want to see appear in Red Robin:
Henri Ducard! (European, detective, featured in Robin Hero is Born, it makes sense)

I like this idea. It does make perfect sense in the present arc, especially since Tim is in Paris again. Has he encountered Ducard since that first mini, by the way?

RunningWithJuanPablo

07-16-2009, 06:20 PM

So IS it Red Robin that's hurting(killing?) the assassins? The first book had a baddy appear to bite the dust, as did this one, so now I wonder if that's Red Robin, but the ambiguity present makes it unclear to me.

Valhalla

07-22-2009, 10:49 PM

What was Tim refering to about Lady Shiva being after him for something he did. Only just got back in to it.

n2doop5u

07-23-2009, 06:57 AM

AiyokuSama

07-23-2009, 07:11 AM

What was Tim refering to about Lady Shiva being after him for something he did. Only just got back in to it.

He drugged her when she challenged him instead of fighting 'fair.'

dumbstruck

07-23-2009, 10:13 AM

I'm a little behind as my BOC was delayed by the post office, but I just read #1 last night. While I enjoyed the read, I'm not a fan of the "darkening-up" of Tim Drake. It just seemed to be a characterization U-Turn for Tim. I like the angle that he's the only who believes Bruce is still alive, and that he's obsessed with finding him, but it just seems he's gone too far away from what really made Tim Drake the character he was.

nepenthes

07-23-2009, 03:14 PM

Jae Namkyoung

07-23-2009, 03:17 PM

The art and writing are good.

TIM IS SUCH A DOUCHE TO STEPH!

>.> frakkn boy wonders.

Melfice

07-26-2009, 01:29 PM

The art and writing are good.

TIM IS SUCH A DOUCHE TO STEPH!

>.> frakkn boy wonders.

Yeah I do agree here. I thought Tim wen overboard with Steph. It seems like Tim Drake is going to lose it soon

AiyokuSama

07-26-2009, 02:09 PM

Yeah I do agree here. I thought Tim wen overboard with Steph. It seems like Tim Drake is going to lose it soon

He already did in BftC. It's one of the reasons I really didn't like it.

David Walton

07-27-2009, 07:00 AM

Another great issue and the conclusion leaves us with an exciting premise that could carry this series for the foreseeable future.

I can see Tim identifying with Ra's al Ghul right now more than he wants to. Having Ra's "believe" in him is like the next best thing to getting Bruce's seal of approval, since Ra's always believed in him, too. That opens the door for a really compelling (and authentic) temptation.

_Move

07-28-2009, 12:48 AM

They planted the seed for that way back in Ra's resurrection arc, good of Chris (or editorial) to pick that thread up.

nepenthes

07-28-2009, 01:00 AM

They planted the seed for that way back in Ra's resurrection arc, good of Chris (or editorial) to pick that thread up.

intresting what exactly are you reffering to? i don't own those issues

_Move

07-28-2009, 06:17 AM

Ra's kidnaps and tempts Tim into using the pits to revive his parents, Conner and Steph (presumed dead at the time). he seriously considers it, Nightwing tries to talk some sense into him, they throw down (with I-Ching as the "referee" so to speak), Tim collects a small sample of the Pit liquid, but makes the right decision to pour it out.

Takes place in 'tec 838, Robin 169, Nightwing 139.

The idea of Ra's seeing Tim as a more malleable heir than Bruce is an appealing one, as Ra's always admired Bruce's intelligence more than his martial prowress. (Although that gets his attention, too). Tim, being the cereberal cat that he is,seems to inspire the same admiration in Ra's, as Damien is yet to show anything but arrogance and petulence. Ra's I imagine senses the sibling rivalry and entitlement struggles between Tim and damien as Bruce's sons, and decides to act on the "weaker" of the two. Glad they followed this up in RR, as Tim is now coming into his own. He no doubt will deal much better with Ra's scheming this time around.

Also, Resurrection, is a very, very underrated crossover. Lot of fun to be had in those issues.

Samy

08-06-2009, 09:15 PM

So Tim Drake is the new Hank Pym?

I wonder if we're going to get twenty years of "beater" criticism about this issue.

RonnieThunderbolts

08-06-2009, 09:33 PM

So Tim Drake is the new Hank Pym?

I wonder if we're going to get twenty years of "beater" criticism about this issue.

He kicked a female colleague who was spying on him using invisibility technology to force her to reveal herself, it isn't spousal abuse. It is much more like Batman hitting Catwoman when she breaks into the Batcave, and really, nothing at all like Hank Pym slapping Janet in the face.

Samy

08-06-2009, 09:46 PM

He kicked a female colleague who was spying on him using invisibility technology to force her to reveal herselfAs opposed to, for example, saying, "I know you're here"?

it isn't spousal abuseNo, but it's still physical abuse. It's more okay to hit people you're not married to?

nothing at all like Hank Pym slapping Janet in the face.Yeah, a slap is physically weaker than a kick that makes you vomit.

RonnieThunderbolts

08-06-2009, 09:52 PM

As opposed to, for example, saying, "I know you're here"?

No, but it's still physical abuse. It's more okay to hit people you're not married to?

Yeah, a slap is physically weaker than a kick that makes you vomit.

A kick to an intruder in your home is completely different than a unprovoked slap. It doesn't matter if they were married, exes, or strangers, she used invisibility tech to break into his headquarters. He didn't start attack her for knocking on his front door, and as unreasonable as you feel his actions may be, it is not the same as abuse, and from the story there is no evidence to the contrary. This is a world where heroes fight one another from time to time. Stephanie has recently worked with both the Penguin and Shiva to attack Tim, his actions are no different than any of the other times they have fought, or that Tim has fought with Dick or Bruce.

Samy

08-06-2009, 09:57 PM

RonnieThunderbolts

08-06-2009, 10:07 PM

We'll just have to agree to disagree then. As far as I see it, it's in both cases a situation of a good guy choosing in a non-combat setting to physically abuse another good guy who trusts him.

In Tim's case it's worse as he doesn't have the insanity defense.

I can't see how you can interpret another hero who has broken into his property to spy on him, and has not revealed themselves, as abuse of someone who trusts them. Unwarranted response, improperly mitigated, sure, but abuse? Tim had no advantage/power over Stephanie to make him the abuser in this situation. He didn't attack someone in a non-combat setting. She broke in, that cannot simply be ignored. She committed the first act of aggression, she had the unfair advantage of invisibility, but he was the abuser? As far as I know, he didn't have any power/trust/or advantage to abuse against her, and she trusted him to what, know that she was there, though she was there with the apparent intention of spying on him secretly? She trusted him to not kick him, when she presented herself as an anonymous intruder in his residence/headquarters? I will gladly agree to disagree. I do feel Tim is acting more aggressive and reactionary, but I hardly see anything that can paint him as an abuser of any kind at this point in time.

Samy

08-06-2009, 10:13 PM

as abuse of someone who trusts them

1) It's physical abuse.
2) Stephanie trusts Tim

Ergo, it's physical abuse of someone who trusts them.

Tim had no advantage/power over Stephanie to make him the abuser in this situation.He had as much advantage/power as Hank did over Jan. Which is to say, I agree it isn't much, or even any, but if Hank gets crucified over it, so should Tim.

She broke in, that cannot simply be ignored.You know, there are other ways of "not ignoring" than a kick. Like saying, "Hello, Stephanie."

She committed the first act of aggressionShe did what now? Watching is aggression now? Watching somebody merits a kick to the gut?

RonnieThunderbolts

08-06-2009, 10:29 PM

1) It's physical abuse.
2) Stephanie trusts Tim

Ergo, it's physical abuse of someone who trusts them.

Again, I disagree. It was violent, but it was in no way abuse, any more than the times that Tim and Dick have come to blows. Also, she and Tim are estranged and have been since the end of the Robin series. They are not on good terms, she was not in any position to be trusted, and Tim was not presenting himself as someone who trusted her, or showing that he wanted her to trust him. What exactly did she trust him to do? You haven't mentioned that. It is meaningless "she trusts him," to do what? To not attack her when she breaks into his home? I don't think that is any breach of any trust.

He had as much advantage/power as Hank did over Jan. Which is to say, I agree it isn't much, or even any, but if Hank gets crucified over it, so should Tim.

No, he didn't. Hank turned around in anger in an ACTUAL non-combat situation, and Tim attacking an intruder in his home. That is legal, even if it is an ex of the opposite sex.

You know, there are other ways of "not ignoring" than a kick. Like saying, "Hello, Stephanie."

She did what now? Watching is aggression now? Watching somebody merits a kick to the gut?

Breaking and entering is a an act of aggression, and a breach of trust, so is spying on someone. She didn't say "knock, knock, hey Tim, Stephanie here!" That would warrant a 'hello,' but in a world where the Penguin supplied Stephanie with invisibility technology, Tim is in no way out of line to use violence to subdue an intruder.

Tim attacked someone who broke into his home, Hank slapped his wife in their home. In these two situations, Stephanie and Hank are the criminals and Tim and Janet are not.

Samy

08-06-2009, 10:34 PM

We'll just have to agree to disagree then. As far as I'm concerned, this was every bit an ACTUAL non-combat situation and Tim's response was just as bad as Hank's, since he's the one who initiated the violence.

Sixa

08-06-2009, 11:23 PM

Love these new comic(just bought issue 1 and 2),finally Tim's gonna be as dark,violent,near insane,complex as Bruce lol:biggrin: .

I found it interesting that he said something about his identity(Red Robin) how he doesn't see himself as a hero.He did break a few bones here and there but not to the extent of killing yet.

Oh man,how I hate Damien's pompous bastard attitude:redface: .The more he talks,the more I hate him.He's an interesting character nonetheless,cant wait to see how Batman gonna handle him.

It was kind of plot twist to see him forcing himself to believe that Bruce is still alive(even though he knows that he's self-denial).

That was one awesome sport bike he got there I have to say(My favorite bike brand,Ducati:cool: )