Who 's your top five most underused and underrated mutants [Archive]

visi

06-30-2009, 05:46 PM

We all have our favs, but who would you say are your top 5 mutants who have been tragically underused, undervalued, and all around mistreated. Here's mine:

Wither: Rogue has been one of the X worlds most enduring and interesting characters, in that same vein it would make sense that, if handled correctly, Kevin could be like Rogue squared

Icarus: Never was a death more tragic to me than that of the wonderfully zen young Guthrie brother.

Cypher: Poor Doug, ridiculed for his powers while living and thrown away in a less than impressive death. Let's hope Zeb Wells has bigger plans for him.

Dazzler: Such a rabid fan base deserves to be rewarded and I'm not talking about a few scenes as glorified wallpaper.

Husk: The fairer of this list's Guthries was and still could be a Clarmozonian in the making, a wonderfully complex character who, in the wrong hands, was reduced to sky sex and discarded. What a shame.

marvell2100

06-30-2009, 06:06 PM

Any five mutants appearing in a comic with Scott and Emma right now.

Faded

06-30-2009, 06:14 PM

Johnny Kitano (http://www.comicvine.com/johnny-kitano/29-4283/) - Japanese mutant who is strongly opposed to mutant terrorism in a way that's kind of ironic and rather extreme. Has a thing against Mystique. And not another white face, so Fraction would like him.
Gloria Muñoz (http://www.comicvine.com/risque/29-15551/) - Sexy, sassy, and provocative, she's a carefree spirit who just wants to go clubbing with her gays. Isn't that something we can all relate to?
Robin Vega (http://www.comicvine.com/robin-vega/29-15448/) - A cool, troubled Spider-Man-related mutant whose story was about the trials of being a mutant and having to change identities and constantly move, despite rarely using her powers. And she can read! (A grad student, actually).
Simon Hall (http://www.comicvine.com/neophyte/29-15066/) - An unsure kind spirit who got mixed up in the wrong crowd (Acolytes), but really has nowhere else to turn.
Clement Wilson (http://www.comicvine.com/ruckus/29-13350/) - Flamboyant fashion icon with the voice of an angel, he served as a Nasty Boy although his luscious curls are anything but.

Novaya Havoc

06-30-2009, 06:16 PM

Dazzler: Such a rabid fan base deserves to be rewarded and I'm not talking about a few scenes as glorified wallpaper.

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

justinkos91

06-30-2009, 06:17 PM

- Miss Steed: She's in jail, and I loved her AoA counterpart. Her lust for Nightcrawler was fun to see.
- Tarot: She's no longer a mutant, but a former mutant who should be used again. Retcon her depowering and bring her back, they did that with Sunfire.
- Martinique Jason: She was wallpaper in the sisterhood arc and made a clone of her sister. I want her to be a good villain again.
- Outlaw: Where is that cowgirl? She needs to do something cool.
- Husk: She's powered, was a member of Gen X and was an X-man, she needs to do something dammit!

yanapryde

06-30-2009, 06:22 PM

Leech-where did he go??
Husk- potential. so much potential
Cypher- okay he's dead but ya.
Dazzler -to be used legitimately
Karma -again needs to DO something. yay for New Mutants.

Nyssane

06-30-2009, 06:24 PM

Thumbelina -- She's one of the most unique characters visually and has a pretty cool powerset. She lacks the confidence to be a menacing, threatening X-Villain and I think that works in her favor because there's not many villains that the X-Men have faced who realize their incompetence.
Kleinstock Brothers -- Why they weren't in Messiah CompleX and losers like Gargouille and Vindaloo were, I'll never know. The Kleinstocks have one of the most interesting powers... add on to that their plasma bursts and their Fenris-like twincestuality, you've got greatly underrated characters.
Ruckus - He was one of the major villains of the animated series, you'd think a writer would want to use him after his display in the cartoon. He's so over-the-top and fun, it's a shame he goes as underused as he is.
Siena Blaze -- This chick made a name for herself in the 90's by nearly killing the three leaders of the X-Men with one blast. Her powers are excrutiatingly deadly and the fact that she doesn't care if she destroys the world is an interesting take on a villain.
Risque -- Because Faded loves her, so we should all. Seriously, she's a unique character and sexy without being the typical American view of sexy (aka blonde and big titted, a playboy bunny). Bring her back!

Faded

06-30-2009, 06:30 PM

Thumbelina -- She's one of the most unique characters visually and has a pretty cool powerset. She lacks the confidence to be a menacing, threatening X-Villain and I think that works in her favor because there's not many villains that the X-Men have faced who realize their incompetence.

Thumbelina is from Detroit.
X-Factor is in Detroit.

I think we need to write a letter.

Kleinstock Brothers -- Why they weren't in Messiah CompleX and losers like Gargouille and Vindaloo were, I'll never know. The Kleinstocks have one of the most interesting powers... add on to that their plasma bursts and their Fenris-like twincestuality, you've got greatly underrated characters.

And they predate Basilisk with their charming stupidity!!!

Risque -- Because Faded loves her, so we should all. Seriously, she's a unique character and sexy without being the typical American view of sexy (aka blonde and big titted, a playboy bunny). Bring her back!

<3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

pryde15

06-30-2009, 06:34 PM

Cypher (http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/19940/709915-douglas_ramsey_01_super.jpg)- one of my all-time favorite characters, and even though his powers weren't the most flashy (or at all) he was still a viable mutant.

Tarot (http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/3347/704576-000000_super.jpg)- Ok she could create psionic constructs and then later on take on the abilities of her tarot cards, why was she never seen? I mean honestly she could've been such a great character if Fitzroy didn't take a huge dump on the Hellions.

Magik (http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/6799/824443-ilyana_mind_games_2_super.jpg)- I wouldn't say she is underrated, but definetly underused. I loved her and I always wished that Claremont added Illyana to the team.

Mirage (http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/36894/735938-moonstar1_super.jpg)- Another character I wished had been become a full-fledged member, Dani totally deserved it. She had an interesting power set and personality, of course that was completely destroyed (power wise).

Paul730

06-30-2009, 06:44 PM

New X-Men: Legacy is a beacon in the darkness, but these past few years have been rough. :frown:

Northstar: Historically important character with a great personality to boot. The X-Men lack a truly iconic gay character and I think he deserves more exposure than he gets.

Jubilee: I don't really like this character, but I could if she was handled right. Repower her, update her costume, and give her a decent role.

Magma: Again, I don't really like her, but that's because I barely know her. She has cool powers, why is she not used more? :confused:

Husk: I'm quite fond of Husk, even though I only really know her from Austen's run. Like others have said, she has potential.

As for Dazzler, I'm not a fan, but I know other people are. If it was up to me, she'd have her own, low-rent comedy series.

yanapryde

06-30-2009, 06:46 PM

pryde15

06-30-2009, 06:48 PM

I fully agree with all of these. Fortunately 2 out of the 4 FOR SURE will get their dues in New Mutants thanks to Zeb Wells.

At some point I am going to get sick of them always being lumped into the New Mutants, though, even if Wells is doing a great job so far. I would love if a writer gave a few of them the push they need to join the flagship title.

yanapryde

06-30-2009, 06:54 PM

At some point I am going to get sick of them always being lumped into the New Mutants, though, even if Wells is doing a great job so far. I would love if a writer gave a few of them the push they need to join the flagship title.

My hope is that with further character progression and TLC over in the New Mutants title that some of them will be given guest cameos (of importance/relevance) in the flag ship titles to allow for 'non-fans' to enjoy them and appreciate them and thus increase their demand and appearances throughout the x titles.

Especially Magik. shocker.

XaviersMisprint

06-30-2009, 06:58 PM

Magma- Arguably one of the most powerful or potentially powerful mutants the X-Men have on their side. The girl can not only reshape the entire Earth with a wave of her hand, she can cause tremors, open fissures, control the Earth's plates... plus, she could potentially use her abilities like Quake and make hearts quiver in the enemy's chests, etc. However, more than just earthquakes, the girl can create volcanoes from the ground. She can manipulate flame and lava, and make her entire body covered in magma and molten rock. And apprently she can fly as well. She is ridiculously powerful, but since her history is sort of confusing, no one will come near her! I could imagine Magma being one of the more iconic X-Characters given the proper usage. In my opinion, an iconic X-Men lineup should look something like Wolverine, Cyclops, Storm, Iceman, Rogue, Magma, Nightcrawler, Colossus, Angel, Jean Grey.

And I don't say that just because I really like Magma and she's my ABS FAV. She's definitely Top 20 in my book, but I don't understand why she isn't Top 10 in the X-Books.

Also: Dazzler, Northstar, Domino, Karma, Cannonball, Wolfsbane, Madrox, Siryn, Sunspot, Magik, Avalanche, Toad, Blob, Outlaw, Frenzy, Wild Child, Leech, Chamber, Husk, Aurora, Firestar, DARKSTAR, Boom Boom.

XaviersMisprint

06-30-2009, 07:01 PM

At some point I am going to get sick of them always being lumped into the New Mutants, though, even if Wells is doing a great job so far. I would love if a writer gave a few of them the push they need to join the flagship title.

I agree. I used to always picture Rogue's team as the team that should be the "young, but not too young" squad. I figured she'd eventually pick up some of Sam's friends to hang out with but Gambit is tying her down again. At least we get some of the Lil Guys on her team now.

An ideal team of X-Men that ISN'T Cyclops and Emma would be something like Rogue, Cannonball, Sunspot, Magma, Iceman, Warpath, Siryn, Magik, Karma.

Paul730

06-30-2009, 07:06 PM

Madrox

:confused:

Madrox is the main character of X-Factor and is being written better than most of the Marvel Universe.

XaviersMisprint

06-30-2009, 07:08 PM

:confused:

Madrox is the main character of X-Factor and is being written better than most of the Marvel Universe.

True, right now. But he is still B-List. He should be guest starring everywhere, and he should have been used over the past 20 years as well. He is ICONIC, but no one realized until now.

Paul730

06-30-2009, 07:14 PM

True, right now. But he is still B-List. He should be guest starring everywhere, and he should have been used over the past 20 years as well. He is ICONIC, but no one realized until now.

Well, he had a prominent role in Messiah Complex that likely boosted his status somewhat. Plus he has minor roles in most X-Men adaptations, like the films and cartoons. As X-characters go, he doesn't do too badly.

I'd rather he was written well in a spin-off book than reduced to a scary grinning cameo in Uncanny.

The Thunderbird

06-30-2009, 07:14 PM

Jean Grey- Still dead and teased about too much
Nightcrawler- Wallpaper nowadays
Gambit- Not many writers besides Carey like him I think.
Pyro/Blob- Dead and depowered respectively
Jubilee - Depowered

psycwave

06-30-2009, 07:22 PM

Bedlam (http://www.comicvine.com/jesse-bedlam/29-15329/)- a fantastic man who never got to live up to his potential. Black ops, martial arts, a smartass, cool powers, and he wasn't afraid to run
Risque (http://www.comicvine.com/risque/29-15551/)-sassy and cool. She was everything the other girls wanted to be. Totally fabulous
Toad (http://www.comicvine.com/toad/29-1470/)-one of the original members of the Brotherhood. He has been a lackey. hero, leader, jester, and a serious threat. Toad is so underrated it doesn''t make sense.
Empath (http://www.comicvine.com/empath/29-2173/)-He could so be such a devious little bastard. But he got stuck being the Red Queen's bitch and being blinded by Pixie

Faded

06-30-2009, 07:26 PM

Less obscure, but still cool:
Chamber - Undeniably one of the most awesome visuals ANY of the junior teams have sported, I like Chamber's charming demeanor (although everytime he mentioned Paige, he was incredibly annoying). I also like how he's a jerk when he's not feeling a situation, but he's also fun-loving and makes popcorn with his powers.

Frenzy - Unlike a lot of the mainstay villainesses, Frenzy is a loyal character and not someone who always have to assume is working for someone else. She's a down ass bitch, ready to get down to business.

Boom Boom - Did she coin ZOMG? Anyway, Boom Boom is the voice of the internet generation. HILARIOUS and STUPID, and when it comes to the X-Men and their overcapable members, this is quite refreshing.

Dazzler - Especially with the mutant culture boom, I'm surprised there hasn't been more Dazzler in the 00's apart from brief mentions to her concerts and music. I'm interested in seeing how her career has benefitted and suffered through the everchanging public mutant opinion. There were once "celebrities" and pop/alternative culture icons, then superheroes, now a dangerous endangered species. What does one do when she just wants to sing?

And since we're apparently still listing people who are part of a cast in a current X-Title,
Monet.

I truly think she could be the bee's knee's as an X-Man, pushing buttons, kicking ass, and bringing some awesome energy to the main team dynamic. She's consistently fun in X-Factor, but I also feel like she's the character that would benefit most from more super-heroing.

OH
and fuck tl;dr.
lulz

alf_to_the_rescue

06-30-2009, 07:26 PM

Husk - From Generation X to the X-Men, I just wish she could be in a main book but not written by Austen.

Iceman - Yeah Carey uses him a lot but really I'd like him to be used in a main team again. It's been a while.

Polaris - Dare I say it... I think she should really have some larger role, especially with her being the daughter of Magneto.

Synch - He's a bit dead, but I'm sure that can be overcome

Chamber - Same as Husk really, (ok, I just want Generation X back)

Monty_Cristo

06-30-2009, 07:29 PM

Shortpack ................

Paul730

06-30-2009, 07:33 PM

Toad (http://www.comicvine.com/toad/29-1470/)-one of the original members of the Brotherhood. He has been a lackey. hero, leader, jester, and a serious threat. Toad is so underrated it doesn''t make sense.

Oh, I forgot about Toad. And Avalanche. I actually think the entire Brotherhood is horribly underused in 616 continuity. In the films, cartoons, video games, and Ultimate universe, they're a full-fledged organization with a serious political agenda. The yin to the X-Men's yang. I especially like the X-Men: Evolution version (even though it's a bit juvenile) because the characters are real people with relationships to each other and the X-Men. But in 616, they just seem to be a rotating cast of one-dimensional villains who pop up every few years for a single storyline, then disband into limbo...

What a waste of potential. :frown:

Faded

06-30-2009, 07:34 PM

Shortpack ................

YES.

Shortpack + Johnny Kitano + THE HOST

RoguishGurl

06-30-2009, 07:35 PM

Mary Margaret: She is connected to one of the most established X-men and she has powers that could give Blindfold a run for her money.

Gentle: He was proving to be a very promising character and he is one of the most interesting of the New X-men. His story could be really great

Mercury: She was one of the major New X-men and now she is in the background. Her powers give her great potential.

Husk: She has hardly been around and she could make a good supporting character in some book.

Nightcrawler: He was recently shown realizing he has a place in the X-men but he then he just dropped. It was like that one shot was purposely. Show him doing something more as an X-man please.

XaviersMisprint

06-30-2009, 07:35 PM

Well, he had a prominent role in Messiah Complex that likely boosted his status somewhat. Plus he has minor roles in most X-Men adaptations, like the films and cartoons. As X-characters go, he doesn't do too badly.

I'd rather he was written well in a spin-off book than reduced to a scary grinning cameo in Uncanny.

Ew, Landrox. Well put.

Monty_Cristo

06-30-2009, 07:35 PM

YES.

Shortpack + Johnny Kitano + THE HOST

where is Kitano? did they fire him? has he given up his vendetta against Mystique? he was all about personally executing her. and i definately want to see Host again. she was hawt even if she didn't know how to cover her mouth.

Prodigy55

06-30-2009, 07:38 PM

Husk because she's smart and cute! And someone needs to retcon that Austen sluttiness she showed!

Faded

06-30-2009, 07:42 PM

where is Kitano? did they fire him? has he given up his vendetta against Mystique? he was all about personally executing her. and i definately want to see Host again. she was hawt even if she didn't know how to cover her mouth.

LOL I don't know I don't have the later issues of Mystique yet.

The Host is so effing weird, didn't she think she think of herself as a germ first and a mutant second or something??? I only recall that and the sexy fight scene with Mystique. <3

Hi-Fi

06-30-2009, 07:48 PM

Right now, I'd say Chamber, Husk Jubilee (once a mutant, always a mutant!), Iceman and Loa.

CrimsonComedian

06-30-2009, 07:50 PM

Kitty
Polaris
Jubilee
Iceman
aaaaaaaaaannnnnnddddd... Gambit really needs to step their foot back up Uncanny X-Men's arses right now!

prince_nightcrawler

06-30-2009, 07:53 PM

1. Polaris - um hi, Magneto's daughter, same powers? duh.
2. Magma - volcano girl w/ a tude.
3. Husk - such a fun concept. she needs to come back.
4. Toad - Magneto's sidekick, totally creepy great villian.
5. Jubilee - baby come back *sob*

Monty_Cristo

06-30-2009, 07:56 PM

LOL I don't know I don't have the later issues of Mystique yet.

The Host is so effing weird, didn't she think she think of herself as a germ first and a mutant second or something??? I only recall that and the sexy fight scene with Mystique. <3

yeah, she treated germs as her "babies." girl was effed up in the head. but she was strong enough to give Mystique the fight of her life. i liked when Raven hit her with a motorcycle.

7thangel

06-30-2009, 08:03 PM

alf_to_the_rescue

06-30-2009, 08:03 PM

Right now, I'd say Chamber, Husk Jubilee (once a mutant, always a mutant!), Iceman and Loa.

You're back on the nice list

justinkos91

06-30-2009, 08:07 PM

Ew, Landrox. Well put.

Madrox can live up to the name Multiple Man at least
Convenient for Land too. I imagine it being something like this:

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/36512/807145-cucus_super.jpg

Firebaton

06-30-2009, 08:10 PM

Skids- Something about her is interesting to me. I wonder where she is now that Shield is no more, did she join Hammer? Is she in San Fran waiting for Magneto? Plus she has a great power.

Dazzler-I'm a fan and want more than wallpaper with the occasional face nuking. I want some sort of character arc, even if its she taught the russian hookers how to sing Like A Virgin a la Bridget Jones.

Firestar- I would actually welcome her coming into an X-Book. It was hinted at last year but I guess the Marvel Divas ruined that plan. It would be interesting to see her take on Emma being head lady and a good guy.

Catseye- Just cause she always made me smile. She could come back from the dead in some contrived way and rock!

Husk- She was my favorite Gen Xer.

AdamYJ

06-30-2009, 08:21 PM

Oh, I forgot about Toad. And Avalanche. I actually think the entire Brotherhood is horribly underused in 616 continuity. In the films, cartoons, video games, and Ultimate universe, they're a full-fledged organization with a serious political agenda. The yin to the X-Men's yang. I especially like the X-Men: Evolution version (even though it's a bit juvenile) because the characters are real people with relationships to each other and the X-Men. But in 616, they just seem to be a rotating cast of one-dimensional villains who pop up every few years for a single storyline, then disband into limbo...

What a waste of potential. :frown:

Agree. The whole Brotherhood thing just kind of fell apart after Freedom Force. I've been hoping that someone would someday remake the Brotherhood into a group that's on par with the modern X-Men. They were conceived as the X-Men's opposite number, but while the X-Men grew and flourished, the Brotherhood floundered. The one problem with getting together a Brotherhood nowadays is that most of the characters that really stand out and say "this is the Brotherhood" are either depowered or dead.

Anyway, my opinion on the Brotherhood is now known. I also figure people know my feelings on Jubilee. So, let's see who else I can come up with.

1) Skin- People were always down on Angelo for some reason. They'd call him a stereotype and talk about his weak powers. However, he had some real personality, which is more than what a lot of X-Men characters can claim. Also, in a world where everyone seems so hypercapable, it's cool to have a character who has to work twice as hard for stuff that most people take for granted. But, they killed him off. :frown:

2) Mondo- He's still out there somewhere. It would be interesting to follow up on him.

3) Neophyte- He always seemed like the Acolyte with the least amount of blind loyalty to Magneto. It always made it seem like there was more coming from him, but there never was.

4) Slipstream- He could have been cool. He had the potential to be one of the next light-hearted, fun mutants among the X-Men. A laid-back surfer. But Claremont angsted him up and then shipped him out at the last second.

5) Sketch- She was an artist who could make her drawings become real. Come on, how cool is that power? So many powers in superhero comics are destructive. There need to be more that have a creative aspect.

Monty_Cristo

06-30-2009, 08:25 PM

Agree. The whole Brotherhood thing just kind of fell apart after Freedom Force. I've been hoping that someone would someday remake the Brotherhood into a group that's on par with the modern X-Men. They were conceived as the X-Men's opposite number, but while the X-Men grew and flourished, the Brotherhood floundered. The one problem with getting together a Brotherhood nowadays is that most of the characters that really stand out and say "this is the Brotherhood" are either depowered or dead.

Anyway, my opinion on the Brotherhood is now known. I also figure people know my feelings on Jubilee. So, let's see who else I can come up with.

1) Skin- People were always down on Angelo for some reason. They'd call him a stereotype and talk about his weak powers. However, he had some real personality, which is more than what a lot of X-Men characters can claim. Also, in a world where everyone seems so hypercapable, it's cool to have a character who has to work twice as hard for stuff that most people take for granted. But, they killed him off. :frown:

whuh? i don't remember that. who called Skin a stereotype? i didn't think he generated any discussion.

NewMutant

06-30-2009, 08:29 PM

1) The Cast of Generation X - This series has basically been ignored. Aside from Emma and M everyone else has been sidelined. Jubilee was the best Wolverine sidekick. Synch shouldn't have been killed and Prodigy is just a little too similar. Chamber went all apocalypse. Husk and Angel is gross. Banshee randomly dies. Its a bummer. This was a great X-team.

2) Northstar - As someone pointed out early he is historic figure. They should actually use him. He was the best thing Austens run and a postive thing in Fractions. But those are both not high points in X-history.

3) Cannonball - While Cannonball has basically been used since creation its time for him to be on the flagship team. (Iceman and Gambit kind fit here too. They just need to be used properly)

4) Ceila Reyes - Great character. Lots of potential, especially since Moria (another wasted character) is gone.

5) Marrow - Was an X-Man for awhile. She was the original X-23 as far as I'm concerned.

justinkos91

06-30-2009, 08:32 PM

- Cordelia Frost: Appeared in generation X, only to disappear. She doesn't seem to be depowered, where could she be?
- Avalanche: Barely appears in comics anymore, but seems to be big in the cartoons. A guy who got defeated by a depowered Wolfsbane can do better.
- Threnody: She's gotta be out there doing something...
- Gentle: He shined in Storm's mini, but other than that, a smiley cameo in Uncanny. He has potential
- Ernst and Martha: Haven't seen them a lot since Morrison's run.

ermac

06-30-2009, 08:35 PM

Banshee
Solaris
Toad
Chamber
Cecy Reyes
:frown:

(Gee, would like to say Polaris, Sunspot, Magma too... hehe)

Jack Flash

06-30-2009, 08:38 PM

1. Vincente
2. Mondo
3. Cordelia Frost
4. Rusty & Skids
5. Flex

Josef F.

06-30-2009, 08:51 PM

Ruckus - Screechy and fantastic. Only one to ever make pink hair work.
Gorgeous George - Rucky's purple counterpart. And fantastic
Chamber - He's egyptian now. And Boring.
Toad - Although he is now ginger. Saywhuuuuuuuuuuuut
BoomBoom - She will join X-force shortly. Do not worry.

XaviersMisprint

06-30-2009, 08:52 PM

OH I FORGOT POLARIS. That just goes to show how underused she is if I forget her...

fortyseven

06-30-2009, 08:53 PM

I dunno if i have five yet, but...

Marrow - I absolutely love her. She was incredibly badass, snarky and rude, but soo good too. She grew so much as a character personality wise and power wise and actually got redemption for her past deeds and learnt her mistakes. It's unfortunate that other writers had her falling back into her old ways (either going evil, or loosing control of her powers continuously).

Cece Reyes - Loved her too. She was snarky and wise-cracking, and even though she probably doesn't want to be an X-Men still, it'd be nice to have her around.

Husk - She deserves waaay more than what she got during Austen's run. She's smart and passionate and always wanted to be (and deserves to be) an X-Man... Warren's underage gf.

Polaris - She's the second X-Woman for pete's sake!!! Nuff said.

EDIT: AHHHHHHHH I completely forgot Banshee!!!!

Jack Flash

06-30-2009, 08:55 PM

LOL. I think alot of ya'll need to learn the meaning of underused/underrated.

XaviersMisprint

06-30-2009, 08:57 PM

LOL. I think alot of ya'll need to learn the meaning of underused/underrated.

It could mean a lot of things.. they don't all HAVE to be D-List to be "underused". A lot of the characters that are B-List still get pushed to the side when they should be getting spotlight and major attention.

Josef F.

06-30-2009, 08:58 PM

LOL. I think alot of ya'll need to learn the meaning of underused/underrated.

LOL I KNOW RIGHT?
what are these people with appearances in the double digits?

ermac

06-30-2009, 08:59 PM

It could mean a lot of things.. they don't all HAVE to be D-List to be "underused". A lot of the characters that are B-List still get pushed to the side when they should be getting spotlight and major attention.

TODAY Nightcrawler needs some direction. Can say he's underused? (I almost put him on my list...)

Psychic Illusion

06-30-2009, 09:00 PM

Dazzler - I want ali to be an a-lister or even a b lister again.
Wondra - the x-men is missing something from the mall rat. Come back jubilee!
Banshee - I really miss sean and his death was so stupid.
Magik - could I really add the most popular (female) new mutant on this list?after all, its been 16 years after her death.
Chimera - totally bad ass and could be a major she-villian.
Madylene pryor/red queen/goblin queen/ black rook/ jean grey/ phoenix/ anodyne -
poor maddy will never get her due.
Havok - the bonly worth summers. Die cyclops!
Tag - coulda been a worthy future x-man.
Wallflower - same as tag.
Mastermind - very unique villian.
Polaris - being just magneto's daughter isn't enough.

And..........
Psylocke. im shocked betsy wasn't on the list.I really believe psylocke is an important character in the x-verse to me and would like to see her being front row and center again, written right, and reclaim her icon status.

ermac

06-30-2009, 09:01 PM

And..........
Psylocke. im shocked betsy wasn't on the list.I really believe psylocke is an important character in the x-verse to me and would like to see her being front row and center again, written right, and reclaim her icon status.

Just give the X-writes some time. Even tought, I don't really trust them that much. But she'll get a mini soon. Hope things get better. I'm also her fan :tongue:

XaviersMisprint

06-30-2009, 09:06 PM

TODAY Nightcrawler needs some direction. Can say he's underused? (I almost put him on my list...)

I was under the impression that since this thread was created AT PRESENT, then the idea was to discuss who should be used more AT PRESENT that has been kicked to the side lately. I guess it could also mean "who has only ever appeared 3 times but SHOULD HAVE appeared at least 4 or 5 times?"

So yeah, Nightcrawler kind of works. He is just on the outskirts of being used, but he is still underused and underrated for the moment.

Psychic Illusion

06-30-2009, 09:17 PM

Just give the X-writes some time. Even tought, I don't really trust them that much. But she'll get a mini soon. Hope things get better. I'm also her fan :tongue:

Yay for betsy fans!

Others:

Petra and sway - they killed them in favor of vulcan's wack ass? Meh
Dr. Reyes - I never saw what cecilia could or would do if she stayed awhile.
Chamber - jonoathan is very unique and could be iconic.
Jean grey - the only reason I put jean on here was because she dies way too much for an a-lister. I really miss her and kitty.
I would like to add my girl blink, but she is vaulable, just not to 616.
Sebastion shaw - something about him is very interesting.

And a/b listers who are just underused:
Storm
Iceman
Gambit
Multiple
Nightcrawler
Colossus

7thangel

06-30-2009, 09:37 PM

Alpha the Ultimate Mutant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_the_Ultimate_Mutant)

i remember reading the handbook about this guy and wondered why they mothballed him, other than his ridiculous appearance

Faded

06-30-2009, 09:44 PM

Right now, I'd say Chamber, Husk Jubilee (once a mutant, always a mutant!), Iceman and Loa.

Someone (well almost everyone, except darknessatnoon) seems to be diggin' Generation X right now.

But I feel like a pariah as I don't have much love anymore for Paige. She was fun in Gen X, but my candle has gone meltymelt for her.

Excelsior

06-30-2009, 09:49 PM

Gateway
Storm
Franklin Richards
Aardwolf (Chon Li)

Amalgam aka Bishop's last hope----

First appearance Uncanny X-Men Annual #16
Created by Stan Lee
Steve Ditko

Amalgam can absorb the mutant abilities and memories of someone with a touch, and can then shape-shift into their likeness and let their personality come to the forefront to interact with others. Amalgam possesses the abilities of numerous mutants who have accepted her offer of "The Choice." She has precognitive abilities similar to those of the blind mutant Destiny, but Amalgam's control of power appears to be much more focused. She also can enter herself into the timestream, allowing her to travel through time and cause unlikely changes.

Little is known about Amalgam's origins, but it is known that she comes from the future to absorb the traits of dying mutants. She has come to Cyclops (who died in a Sentinel attack), Beast, Nightcrawler, Mystique, and Destiny. She has come to Archangel twice, though. The first was after an event known as the "Morlock Massacre" in which she also received the powers of many of the Morlocks. Nightcrawler refused "The Choice," despite many attempts made by Amalgam to disguise as Archangel's fellow X-Men. She went into the future and discovered he was not destined to die yet, and she also found that she had fallen in love with him. She returned to him during a battle where the X-Men where fighting terrorists, where she saved him from a fatal death (though he was still knocked unconscious). When Archangel woke, his fellow X-Men teammates explained that an "Angel of Death" had saved him

Volk1

06-30-2009, 09:52 PM

I only have 2 for now but I have a lot.

1. Jessica ("Jesse") ("Jess") ("J-BOMB" ) Vale. - aka PREVIEW.

Cute little nihilist who could predict your death and would be BORED about it.

Her role was SIDESWIPED by that jailbait LAYLAKNOWSSTUFFMILLER!!:evilangry: BOOOO

BRING HER BACK!!!! SHE CAN SAVE THE MUTANTZ!!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ec/Preview_(NXM_12).jpg

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/d/d4/Preview_cant_see.jpg

jubilees_boyfriend

06-30-2009, 10:00 PM

1) Jubilee- powers or de-powered, the young woman definately needs a comeback, either X-Men related or in the main Marvel Universe. She has the star potential to do so, in my opinion. Wolverine's 'daughter' and arguably the most iconic Marvel teen of the 90s... need I say more?
2) Husk- she used to be the brains of Generation X, as well as the over-achiever. Paige always tried to outdo the others. Where has she been, and where is that old spark of hers?
3) Penance (from Generation X)- her character was just so different than the normal superhero... she must've had so much angst due to her powers and her body that was basically a prison in itself. She needs to be explored more.
4) Chamber- nothing more was explored of his Apocalypse-based powers. He was last seen being one of the two powerhouses of New Warriors (the other being Jubilee.) The same can be said for his role in Generation X. The guy knows how to make the best out of his abilities.
5) Banshee/Skin/Synch... lets just say that I love Generation X and get it over with.

Faded

06-30-2009, 10:02 PM

I only have 2 for now but I have a lot.

1. Jessica ("Jesse") ("Jess") ("J-BOMB" ) Vale. - aka PREVIEW.

Cute little nihilist who could predict your death and would be BORED about it.

Her role was SIDESWIPED by that jailbait LAYLAKNOWSSTUFFMILLER!!:evilangry: BOOOO

BRING HER BACK!!!! SHE CAN SAVE THE MUTANTZ!!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ec/Preview_%28NXM_12%29.jpg

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/d/d4/Preview_cant_see.jpg

LOL Volk.

You always knew how to make Preview seem like the coolest background character ever. <3

Prodigy55

06-30-2009, 10:03 PM

Preview <3 <3 <3 <3!

Mike Carey knows that she's alive and he said he wanted to use some depowered students :D

But no official confirmation

pryde15

06-30-2009, 10:04 PM

My hope is that with further character progression and TLC over in the New Mutants title that some of them will be given guest cameos (of importance/relevance) in the flag ship titles to allow for 'non-fans' to enjoy them and appreciate them and thus increase their demand and appearances throughout the x titles.

Especially Magik. shocker.

But they have been brought into Uncanny, and all of their appearances have been pointless and forgettable. Unless you are Emma Frost or Scott Summers don't expect to be getting any development.

Yogaflame

06-30-2009, 10:08 PM

Simon Hall (http://www.comicvine.com/neophyte/29-15066/) - An unsure kind spirit who got mixed up in the wrong crowd (Acolytes), but really has nowhere else to turn.

Can someone explain this guy's powers a bit more? The link says something about phasing into rain and then jumping out, which I don't exactly understand.

Faded

06-30-2009, 10:25 PM

Can someone explain this guy's powers a bit more? The link says something about phasing into rain and then jumping out, which I don't exactly understand.

Yeah its hard to explain.

To put it simply, he phases like Kitty Pryde.

But I think they explained it as he basically teleports through matter.

JACK FLASH OR NYSSANE TAKE THE WHEEL.

Bronze Badger

06-30-2009, 10:32 PM

My five:

1. Mondo
2. Flubber
3. Random
4. Lifeguard
5. Kiwi Black

pryde15

06-30-2009, 10:35 PM

Yeah its hard to explain.

To put it simply, he phases like Kitty Pryde.

But I think they explained it as he basically teleports through matter.

JACK FLASH OR NYSSANE TAKE THE WHEEL.

I don't appreciate Kitty Pryde substitutes.

The Escapist

06-30-2009, 10:41 PM

1) Cannonball - You could argue he's hardly been underused, but he's definitely been underrated. He's probably one of the first "young mutants with potential" that we've seen so many of in the past two decades, yet he's never really fulfilled that potential we saw way back in the original New Mutants.
I thought he was finally gonna make the jump when he joined the X-Men back in the mid 90s (and scored that one hit on Gladiator), but other than the post-Pete Wisdom X-Force period, he's hardly shown that early potential and pretty much been a background character who's just there to fill the roster most of the time.
Not to mention all he does nowadays is basically briefly fly-tackle an enemy out of a fight before being overpowered like a chump.
In an ideal scenario, they'd establish his status as an External once and for all, and consequently write him as one of the major characters in the X-books.

2) Taskmaster - I'm not 100% sure if he's actually a mutant (don't recall it being confirmed or otherwise), but I've always thought he's got one of the coolest powers around and should be utilized more in the X-books, especially if they want some badass fighter-type enemy, rather than creating a new - and inevitably lame - one (like Vargas for example).
With his powers he should be firmly established as one of the better fighters in Marvel based on actual fights, not some generic claim with little real evidence. Having his butt kicked by a shackled Deadpool is certainly no way to do it.

3) Maverick - Always liked the character and costume, and his origin as the third member of Team X. Quite enjoyed his short-lived series back in the late 90s too. (His partner in that series, Elena Ivanova, deserves mention too.) Too bad he hasn't really been around since that brief appearance in Origins, but at least he didn't die back at the start of the whole Weapon X thing.

4) Exodus - Another supposedly powerful villain from the 90s who just fell along the wayside and shows up every now and then with some half-baked plan and never demonstrates the incredible power he's purported to have.
I thought it was awesome how even Magneto's right-hand man was powerful enough to wipe the floor with all the X-Men, and that all-out battle with Holocaust just cemented his status back then. Or so I thought. Sadly he's been pretty much neglected in every aspect since then.

5) Fever Pitch - Speaking of Holocaust, I was considering him as my final choice, but since he's already dead, I figured his possible 616 counterpart would be the next best choice. Nothing much to him actually, but he looks cool aesthetically and would make a great regular x-villain.

justinkos91

06-30-2009, 10:44 PM

5) Fever Pitch - Speaking of Holocaust, I was considering him as my final choice, but since he's already dead, I figured his possible 616 counterpart would be the next best choice.

Fever Pitch is dead...

Faded

06-30-2009, 10:46 PM

I don't appreciate Kitty Pryde substitutes.

YO
its not a substitute if they're on opposite sides!

If anything, you should give the side-eye to Armor...andI'mnotjustdivertingattentionawayfromCip herandLoa

pryde15

06-30-2009, 10:51 PM

YO
its not a substitute if they're on opposite sides!

If anything, you should give the side-eye to Armor...andI'mnotjustdivertingattentionawayfromCip herandLoa

LOL. I don't mind Loa, Cipher I never really cared for, but I can't bad mouth a character you enjoy. It feels wrong.

Faded

06-30-2009, 11:28 PM

LOL. I don't mind Loa, Cipher I never really cared for, but I can't bad mouth a character you enjoy. It feels wrong.

LOL!

You don't have to tippy-toe around my feelings!

The Escapist

06-30-2009, 11:30 PM

Fever Pitch is dead...

Yeah, I kinda realised that too late. But he's not as surely dead as Holocaust is, and he's been back from the supposed dead before too if I recall correctly. :tongue:

Hi-Fi

06-30-2009, 11:31 PM

Someone (well almost everyone, except darknessatnoon) seems to be diggin' Generation X right now.

But I feel like a pariah as I don't have much love anymore for Paige. She was fun in Gen X, but my candle has gone meltymelt for her.
I've been rereading Gen X and now I really miss her. And Jono. And Jubes. And Skin. And Monet being a bitch to all of them.

justinkos91

06-30-2009, 11:35 PM

I've been rereading Gen X and now I really miss her. And Jono. And Jubes. And Skin. And Monet being a bitch to all of them.

Speaking of Gen X, another under-rated mutant was GAIA

Faded

06-30-2009, 11:40 PM

I've been rereading Gen X and now I really miss her. And Jono. And Jubes. And Skin. And Monet being a bitch to all of them.

I find myself constantly re-reading Gen X. And not just the Bachalo stuff, either!

Paige really shined in the beginning and towards the end. I should probably remind myself why I once liked her.

I'm actually liking Skin a lot less this time around!!! Maybe its my annoyance at the persistence in reminding us that he's Mexican, though, and I'm a bit more conscious of it now.

justinkos91

06-30-2009, 11:49 PM

I find myself constantly re-reading Gen X. And not just the Bachalo stuff, either!

Paige really shined in the beginning and towards the end. I should probably remind myself why I once liked her.

I'm actually liking Skin a lot less this time around!!! Maybe its my annoyance at the persistence in reminding us that he's Mexican, though, and I'm a bit more conscious of it now.

I got sympathy for Skin. I mean from Jono and Paige dating, to the whole M, Jubilee and Synch love triangle, poor guy just can't catch a break with the ladies, except for escorting M out that one night, that's about it.

Fatguy

06-30-2009, 11:54 PM

UGH I never read Gen X, you guys are really making me want to go get it. But it's not in trade form which means I have to go through the annoying process of floppy hunting.

digitalways

06-30-2009, 11:55 PM

I'm so stoked to see so many people mention Mondo! I thought his powers were so unique and I was really sad with what his story turned into (aka, a piece of crap).

I should probably read some old skool Excalibur, but I was always intrigued by whatever the hell Cerise was. I got that she was all Shi'ar, but the powers? It was cool to see her in a few panels back in The End... does that mean she's around?

Along those lines, what about Micromax? Last time I saw him was during Civil War, what's his deal now? Kind of not-amazing powers, but we never knew ye.

Husk. She was amazing, point blank, and her powers were so cool! She was awesome in AoA, and up until she was in that awful anime-inspired run of Uncanny, was a total badass. Someone please use her! She'd be kind of cool in the current run of X-Factor.

Last and certainly not least, KIDEN. NIXON. I nearly wet my pants to see her pop up in Messiah War. For reals. I love her character, and I kind of like that she's in an almost completely different mutant universe outside of the X-Men, but I really feel that we need to see more of her on a monthly basis. I don't know that she'd fit into what's going on anyway, or how she could go from being practically homeless to living it up in some schwanky joint in Marin with the mutant Models, Inc. She's almost a carbon copy of Layla (personality wise), else I'd sacrifice my mother to get her to be a part of the X-Factor cast. Okay, maybe not sacrifice, but still.

Faded

06-30-2009, 11:57 PM

I got sympathy for Skin. I mean from Jono and Paige dating, to the whole M, Jubilee and Synch love triangle, poor guy just can't catch a break with the ladies, except for escorting M out that one night, that's about it.

That's true...and he was always the life of the party, especially if Jubes was having a brat moment.

UGH I never read Gen X, you guys are really making me want to go get it. But it's not in trade form which means I have to go through the annoying process of floppy hunting.

You should feel really bad.

If I had a dunce cap, I'd crown you right now and escort you to your rightful throne in corner.

Fatguy

06-30-2009, 11:58 PM

You should feel really bad.

If I had a dunce cap, I'd crown you right now and escort you to your rightful throne in corner.

I do, I feel awful.

I read the AoA version of Gen X though...does that count for anything?

Faded

07-01-2009, 12:05 AM

I do, I feel awful.

I read the AoA version of Gen X though...does that count for anything?

Its a start!

Now get crackin'!

Josef F.

07-01-2009, 12:34 AM

I don't appreciate Kitty Pryde substitutes.

OH HELL NO.

Neophyte joins with the matter.
If he touches the mountain he can reappear at any part of the mountain. He is quick at transporting.
If he touches the Ocean he can just be anywhere he wishes in the ocean.
Or if he does not wish to climb all dem stairs, he can just touch his house and pop up to his room.

He is amazing.

Azure

07-01-2009, 02:05 AM

Josef! Two lists, and no Hepzibah? WTF.

YES.

Shortpack + Johnny Kitano + THE HOST

And who else???

Yogaflame

07-01-2009, 02:15 AM

OH HELL NO.

Neophyte joins with the matter.
If he touches the mountain he can reappear at any part of the mountain. He is quick at transporting.
If he touches the Ocean he can just be anywhere he wishes in the ocean.
Or if he does not wish to climb all dem stairs, he can just touch his house and pop up to his room.

He is amazing.

Wow, that is an awesome power!

Perfection/Emma 2

07-01-2009, 04:38 AM

Martinique Jason- I can NEVER forgive rhe crap her character was given during "Women Done Wrong Arc'....unless Carey starts writing her:biggrin:

Husk- Marvel WHERE IS HUSK AND WHY ISN'T SHE DOING ANYTHING?!:evilangry:

Miss Sinister- I demand more Claudine

Pulse- Rogue's true love needs to return and beat up Gambit:evilsmile:

Ms. Jake-Gambit's true love, this man/woman or Whoa Man needs to make a comeback

4sake

07-01-2009, 04:51 AM

A/B-C list (underused & underrated)

Jubilee
Synch
Polaris
Dust
Omega (Q.Q.)

D-Z list (underused & underrated)

Cecilia Reyes
Shane Shooter
Erista
Prodigy
Tildie Soames/Evangeline Whedon

HulkSmash666

07-01-2009, 05:22 AM

I'd like to see more of the Nasty Boys.

If written properly, these guys could go toe to toe with the Avengers (minus Sentry of course), and certainly good enough to take on the X-Men these days.

Ruckus- On par with Banshee in terms of sheer destructive sonic powers, he actually absorbs sound and redirects it back as concussive force.

Slag- Not many evil mutant bricks left after M-Day, so having Slag back, nastier than ever and stronger than ever, would be a nice addition.

Hairbag- Who doesn't like a savage, bloodthirsty gorilla-man? The savagery of Sabretooth in the body of Beast.

Gorgeous George- The teams heavy hitter, George has so much potential. Practically indestructible, his liquid-tar body is impervious to physical damage, and his shape shifting is can be a highly potent offensive tool as well as a defensive one.

Christopher O

07-01-2009, 06:49 AM

Storm
Emma
Cyclops
Wolverine
Beast

I wish somebody would pick them up.

Jack Flash

07-01-2009, 06:51 AM

Storm
Emma
Cyclops
Wolverine
Beast

I wish somebody would pick them up.

I am comfortably numb.

Bolebeau

07-01-2009, 06:54 AM

All the Husk mentions in here warm up my widdle heart. She's my number 1 pick for the most underused and underrated mutant. She was awesome in Generation X, and has so much potential to be even more awesome in a major X-Title.

Christopher O

07-01-2009, 06:54 AM

I am comfortably numb.
I'm filthy and gorgeous.

Naira K

07-01-2009, 08:36 AM

Pyro - everybody in the non-book verses realized that Pyro is a great character. He had the best moment in X2, he was hilarious in X-men Evolution, and he was seen in WATXM. Pyro's been dead for too long now, I say if you can bring Jean Grey back every freaking year, bring St. John back!
Dust - a unique character. Dust needs more spotlight and a better uniform. She is beautiful, yet innocent, and the only Muslim mainstream character that comes to my mind. Interesting background and personality.
Icarus - once again, been dead for too long. C'mon, Marvel, if you really need to kill someone, get Pixie. Icarus was way too beautiful to die like that.
Gambit - My second favorite character. Ruined by Milligan, picked up by Carey. We'll see. I'm watching you, Mike.
Serafina - I'm a Cannonball/Serafina (Sarah) shipper. She is mean enough to deserve a comeback. Thank you Mike Carey for the Children of the Vault.

Hey, what about a list of overused X-people? I have names.

Azure

07-01-2009, 08:39 AM

Gambit - My second favorite character. Ruined by Milligan, picked up by Carey. We'll see. I'm watching you, Mike.

He may have broken Gambit, but Milligan fixed him afterwards!

CrimsonComedian

07-01-2009, 08:43 AM

Hopefully Scott dies + Emma leaves the X-Men in this Dark Avengers/Uncanny X-Men crossover with Professor X coming back and taking on a leadership role. The professor doesn't draw too much screen time so we can see some character development again of the other characters. That would provide room for some of these other characters to come back too that have been gone for a while.

Naira K

07-01-2009, 09:12 AM

He may have broken Gambit, but Milligan fixed him afterwards! How did he fix him?

Hopefully Scott dies + Emma leaves the X-Men in this Dark Avengers/Uncanny X-Men crossover with Professor X coming back and taking on a leadership role. The professor doesn't draw too much screen time so we can see some character development again of the other characters. That would provide room for some of these other characters to come back too that have been gone for a while.

I like the way you think, CrimsonComedian.

CrimsonComedian

07-01-2009, 09:13 AM

^ Its not like he brings anything besides wasted paper anyway. And hopefully Beast stays locked up in jail.

Azure

07-01-2009, 09:16 AM

How did he fix him?

He sent him off to Sinister, so when Gambit next reappeared (under Carey), he could be the same guy he used to be.

I think some of the most underused characters are The Winter Guard - simply because they are in exactly the same situation as The X-Men/ You have Ursa Major and Vanguard and Sibercat and Darkstar II in Russia, running a superhero team, and presumably they're trying to counter M-Day too, but we never get to see anything of them. When they do turn up, they generally get beaten up by whoever the American character is and then vanish again for an unspecified length of time. I like the idea of having another mutant team over on the opposite end of the world, who have no interest at all in being a part of the X-Men.

Jack Flash

07-01-2009, 09:18 AM

I think some of the most underused characters are The Winter Guard - simply because they are in exactly the same situation as The X-Men/ You have Ursa Major and Vanguard and Sibercat and Darkstar II in Russia, running a superhero team, and presumably they're trying to counter M-Day too, but we never get to see anything of them. When they do turn up, they generally get beaten up by whoever the American character is and then vanish again for an unspecified length of time. I like the idea of having another mutant team over on the opposite end of the world, who have no interest at all in being a part of the X-Men.

I've always dug on the Winter Guard.

wolvie616

07-01-2009, 09:23 AM

Dazzler: Such a rabid fan base deserves to be rewarded

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA:biggrin:

Azure

07-01-2009, 09:25 AM

I've always dug on the Winter Guard.

Even Sibercat?

I love that there have been about fifteen different Crimson Dynamos, and ten Red Guardians over the years. They get killed off so quickly, the poor wee things.

Jack Flash

07-01-2009, 09:30 AM

Even Sibercat?

I love that there have been about fifteen different Crimson Dynamos, and ten Red Guardians over the years. They get killed off so quickly, the poor wee things.

My faves are Ursa Major, Vanguard, and Darkstar. Gremlin was also really cute in his little robot suit.

Azure

07-01-2009, 09:37 AM

My faves are Ursa Major, Vanguard, and Darkstar. Gremlin was also really cute in his little robot suit.

I think everyone likes those three, they're impossible to hate. Gremlin... has gone right over my head, you have out D-Listed me once more.

It'd be great to see - maybe more than the others - Vanguard making more of a name for himself in the MU. There's a good bit of story could be told with him.

He could team up with Skids!

FeminineMystique

07-01-2009, 09:42 AM

Marrow: She was bad ass, had a great visual and unique powers. And she managed to be the biggest loose cannon on a team that included WOLVERINE. That's hardcore. Give her her powers back and do something with her Marvel!

Zaladane: Daring to have ridiculous hair and dress like a chicken-woman is already impressive. But given she was apparently Polaris's sister making her Magneto's DAUGHTER you can't tell me there aren't a few stories to get out of this character still. Especially as Magneto is all set to be a major player in the MU again.

Siena Blaze: For all the reasons other posters here have mentioned. She needs to be brought back NOW.

Rachel Summers: She's awesome, her outfits are sexy as hell and incredible and she's easily the best of the Summer's many alternate timeline kids. She deaserves better than to be stuck in outer space indefinitely.

Sunfire: Where is this guy right now? Has he appeared at all since the whole "Blinded by the Light" story arc? Last we saw he'd gone crazy from being a Horsemen of Apocalypse and was working for Mr Sinister.

ermac

07-01-2009, 09:59 AM

The entire Alpha Flight! (except Northstar)

FeminineMystique

07-01-2009, 10:03 AM

Naira K

07-01-2009, 10:20 AM

He sent him off to Sinister, so when Gambit next reappeared (under Carey), he could be the same guy he used to be.

Hmmm. True but I'll still think it was an accident.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA:biggrin:

Aw. You're mean. If my favorite character was in limbo for years, and then simply appeared as a wallpaper with some bad music lyrics, I'd be mad.

Sunfire: Where is this guy right now? Has he appeared at all since the whole "Blinded by the Light" story arc? Last we saw he'd gone crazy from being a Horsemen of Apocalypse and was working for Mr Sinister.

Shiro is awesome. I love this sociopath.

Jack Flash

07-01-2009, 10:22 AM

Gremlin... has gone right over my head, you have out D-Listed me once more.

He was a midget mutant with supra intelligence and a knack for technology!

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/5586/748317-gr3_super.jpg

He got killed by Stark I think.

FeminineMystique

07-01-2009, 10:28 AM

Hmmm. True but I'll still think it was an accident.

Aw. You're mean. If my favorite character was in limbo for years, and then simply appeared as a wallpaper with some bad music lyrics, I'd be mad.

Shiro is awesome. I love this sociopath.

As you should:biggrin:

CrimsonComedian

07-01-2009, 10:29 AM

We need Sinister and the Marauders (with Gambit, Sunfire, Polaris, etc) in tow. That would solve a lot of the problems here.

Excelsior

07-01-2009, 10:43 AM

Prodigy (David Alleyne)

Prodigy initially had the telepathic ability to absorb and mimic the knowledge and skills from the minds of the people in close proximity to him. This power only let him absorb other's abilities and not their powers. His power also granted him the ability to predict his opponents moves, allowing him to take on both Wolverine[3] and Santo (Rockslide)[4] in hand to hand combat. A side effect however was David's self-imposed mental blocks. These blocks prevented him from retaining the knowledge he absorbs, forgetting whatever he has learned after a short period of time.

Too quote, Marvin Hagler, "I was robbed"

Agent_Torpor

07-01-2009, 10:46 AM

I've not read about the character before darling but she sounds fantastic. :biggrin:

The X-Books need more cute nihilists.

She's the Disney mall preteen version of Negasonic Teenage Warhead.

FeminineMystique

07-01-2009, 10:48 AM

She's the Disney mall preteen version of Negasonic Teenage Warhead.

They could have a team up!

Back from the dead nihilists with minimal panel time need to stick together. :biggrin:

Each issue would be them screwing with peoples heads by telling them when they were going to die and generally being awesome.

Jack Flash

07-01-2009, 10:49 AM

She's the Disney mall preteen version of Negasonic Teenage Warhead.

i always liked Volk, but I always hated Preview.

Dave13

07-01-2009, 10:51 AM

Has the Elixir man been mentioned yet?

He's so underused he deserves all 5 places

ermac

07-01-2009, 10:53 AM

Has the Elixir man been mentioned yet?

He's so underused he deserves all 5 places

He was at Uncanny last month and has been on Messiah War too!

Dave13

07-01-2009, 11:04 AM

He was at Uncanny last month and has been on Messiah War too!

I'm talking about Page time and Character development and Character involvment

I wasn't counting Zen erotics and being used as a Cable double in messieh war

ermac

07-01-2009, 11:09 AM

I'm talking about Page time and Character development and Character involvment

I wasn't counting Zen erotics and being used as a Cable double in messieh war

I agree with you about Fraction.
But I also think Kyle&Yost are doing very well on the character development over the years. His actions on X-Force show to me that he's growing as a character. Even with that big-crossover-that-changes-nothing.

Waterlily

07-01-2009, 11:11 AM

I'm talking about Page time and Character development and Character involvment

I wasn't counting Zen erotics and being used as a Cable double in messieh war

Well, the Zen erotics are for relaxing after taking part in black ops mission. It may not be the page time you want, but it's still page time.

So we've got the Cuckoos using him
+
Loa using him
=
4

You're saying four isn't enough, he should go for five?

Disco Jess Minge

07-01-2009, 11:11 AM

I'm talking about Page time and Character development and Character involvment

I wasn't counting Zen erotics and being used as a Cable double in messieh war

You are quite fussy, aren't you? You and Iceman fans.:tongue:

Chief Jon

07-01-2009, 11:23 AM

1) Match - Looks awesome. Allegedly is a natural leader and led the paragons squad pre-M-Day, but we've never really gotten to see much in the way of character moments that would display this.

2) Toro - An on fire guy. Immensely powerful and posseses a lot of military experience that the X-Men could really use right now. Also has a pretty light-hearted attitude in spite of all the terrible things he's seen. Would probably get along with Nightcrawler and Iceman and has a connection with Dr. Nemesis through Jim "The Torch" Hammond.

3) Kid Omega - What happened to Quentin when the X-Mansion was destroyed anyhow. A truly interesting character. I'd like to see more.

4) Mercury - I like Cessily quite a bit. The part she played in World War Hulk: X-Men was phenomenal and she had some really interesting character arcs back in New X-Men. I guess she may have had something to do in X-Infernus, but I missed that and would like to see her be featured elsewhere.

5) Firestar - I know she's "retired" but as a mutant and a non-registered super powered being Angel isn't going to be able to help but be pulled back into things eventually.

Dave13

07-01-2009, 11:24 AM

I agree with you about Fraction.
But I also think Kyle&Yost are doing very well on the character development over the years. His actions on X-Force show to me that he's growing as a character. Even with that big-crossover-that-changes-nothing.

Yea Kyle and Yost are doing good, it's the Cable artist that deserves to get beaten

Well, the Zen erotics are for relaxing after taking part in black ops mission. It may not be the page time you want, but it's still page time.

So we've got the Cuckoos using him
+
Loa using him
=
4

You're saying four isn't enough, he should go for five?

Since when does Loa count as 1? maybe 0.5 but an entire one

You are quite fussy, aren't you? You and Iceman fans.:tongue:

How else would i reach the spot of Elixir's no. 1 fanboy?

Disco Jess Minge

07-01-2009, 01:32 PM

How else would i reach the spot of Elixir's no. 1 fanboy?
I've seen more rabid Elixir fans than you on this board alone. Their fanatical heights make me look like that I hate Dazzler in comparison.

Demondaze

07-01-2009, 01:35 PM

blinkinrogue

07-01-2009, 02:03 PM

definitely husk and penance. penance was actually a "claw mutant" who had incredibly unique powers, and what did marvel do? they wasted her. I should also mention diamond lil and firestar.

fortyseven

07-01-2009, 02:06 PM

4. Marrow
This way to a dark ride. I liked Sarah. She was vulgar, rude and got on everyone's nerves. And before she was shunted off to parts unknown for an inexplicable (and stupid) power regression/return to villainy, I thought I saw a potentially interesting plot developing with her starting to have a crush on Gambit, not knowing he was the guy responsible for the Morlock massacre. In a very short time on the book she had a lot of character growth and development. Unfortunately, they threw all that aside and all her appearances since then have just had her going around in circles.

Completely agree!!!!!! :biggrin:

blinkinrogue

07-01-2009, 02:13 PM

diamond lil could have been a good codename for penance if it wasnt already used, the two could team up with emma as the diamond mutants.

marvel seems to show no love at all for gen x characters who are IMO far better characters than the current young mutants.

pryde15

07-01-2009, 06:13 PM

How else would i reach the spot of Elixir's no. 1 fanboy?

You haven't been around long enough to be elevated to #1 fanboy, trust me. Honestly, even though he doesn't post anymore, I would say Butters.

GoodClone

07-01-2009, 06:24 PM

1.Forge - a character that is only picked up for a little while - when the X-Men need a deus ex machina. He has a lot of ptoential, though, with his ability to create any kind of machine.

2.Havok - always in his brother's shadow. I really liked his Mutant X series that gave him the limelight for a while.

3.Strong Guy - one of the best comic relief guys in funny books. Although he has been in X-Factor he is barely used, and let us not forget when he was in comic limbo for about a decade.

4.Warlock (the one from the New Mutants) - great looking visual character, having quite a few endearing moments in the 1st New Mutants title. He's barely been seen since his 1st death in like NM #95.

5. Boom-Boom - I've liked this character a lot since her 1st app in Fallen Angels. Recently killed in X-Force; I thought her death was cheap and unnecessary.

GoodClone

07-01-2009, 06:24 PM

GoodClone

07-01-2009, 06:25 PM

Volk1

07-01-2009, 10:24 PM

LOL Volk.

You always knew how to make Preview seem like the coolest background character ever. <3

If I had your Photoshop skillz, I'd be all over this site with PREVIEW-addictive images!:smile:

I've not read about the character before darling but she sounds fantastic.

The X-Books need more cute nihilists.

She's the best and cutest and and she is super FANTASTIC and I wish I could tell her so because she's always so down. Rahne tried to cheer her up but Rahne is kind of whiny herself plus her accent probably got in the way lol.

She's the Disney mall preteen version of Negasonic Teenage Warhead. HOW DARE YOU?!:evilangry:

Jesse Vale has never watched the Disney channel!

And please that pale ho Warhead was the eptiome of Goth Cliche!!! :rolleyes:

i always liked Volk, but I always hated Preview. i can live with that BUT i'd like to know why you HATE her. Kinda makes me want to cry a lil' bit.:frown:

Volk1

07-01-2009, 10:33 PM

1. Cordelia Frost
She's the perfect character to bring to San Fran. Someone to rattle and rile up Emma, with legitimate reasons to hate her sister ("You killed Adrienne! ... and Daddy preferred you. And Adrienne left me nothing in her will.") and to cause trouble. She's younger, and could flit around with the teen X-Men causing all sorts of mischief. There's potential for this very undefined character, given the large role Emma has these days.

YES! It's almost the perfect setup for her return. It would be awesome of her to hook up with Hellion and lead young rebellion X- team! It's almost surreal that she has't been involved at all during Emma's meteoric rise to X-Stardom. She's such a loose thread and a future thorn in Emma's ass and an unbelievable character waiting to cause havoc for Emma. If they go at it i hope Emma loses and Cordelia wins!

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3. Exodus
A supposedly Terribly Powerful centuries old ex-Crusader who is usually a bit too whiney for my liking. Slightly more interesting in the AoA where he was a good guy. Have a writer take him on and grow a pair/stop living in Magneto's shadow/develop his own perspective to fight for and he could be a very good villain or X-man.

You're right, his schtick is so old. Get out of Magneto's shadow or he'll never grow into a multi-layered character. He could definitely be an ally to the X-Men these days. I always tohught his freaky red skin was weird. It reminds me of these brutal fake tans some fake people get and it looks weird. :frown:

4. Marrow
This way to a dark ride. I liked Sarah. She was vulgar, rude and got on everyone's nerves. And before she was shunted off to parts unknown for an inexplicable (and stupid) power regression/return to villainy, I thought I saw a potentially interesting plot developing with her starting to have a crush on Gambit, not knowing he was the guy responsible for the Morlock massacre. In a very short time on the book she had a lot of character growth and development. Unfortunately, they threw all that aside and all her appearances since then have just had her going around in circles.

Marrow deserves her own mini-series. With love/hate letters to Gambit. She still has her powers. I'm sure she's DONE with the X-Cell. Time to move on girl! Get with the times!

It's funny how no one seems to want to use her. Wasn't in refreshing when she was in Uncanny? Everyone so beautiful and yet there's fugly little Marrow doing her thing. You go SARA!:smile:

Jack Flash

07-02-2009, 06:22 AM

I guess hated is a strong term. I didn't like her as much as other background characters. Her hair is terrrible. Her power set bland. I always dug Trance or Loa or Spectre or insert name of random background New X-Man more. Her hair is terrible. It's really bad.

I totally support Cordelia Frost! She was in my list too! Sassy and unpredictable, selfish and full of avarice, but not completely evil. She's perfect.

speaking of the rest of my list:
I'd also support Mondo! He's got the best powerset ever. and I'd love to see him still in love/hate with Cordy.

Flex is ripe for a return! Especially with Daken exploding at the moment. The bisexual twisted soul that is Dark Wolverine needs to see his sweet innocent gay brother join the fold. I think it'd be interesting to see the dynamics between Wolvie and Daken over Adrian's arrival. Wolvie has two LGBT kids. I find that awesome.

Vincente is also ready for a resurgence. Emplate's returning. I pray to Mike Carey for him to utilize him and then free him from his thrall!

Others that almost made the cut:

Artie Maddicks: He is simply awesome. Grown up with the X-Folks. Always shunted from one place to another. Him and Leech need to come back.

Forearm: His relationship with Danielle was fantastic. Such pain/heart break. Please someone use him. I am talking to you Zeb Wells.