Le Diable Blanc: Amour et Appréciation de Gambit

[witness]

Hi guys quick question, do you think Gambits about to disappear again? Am worried they are setting it up for him to vanish off the radar once again. Am I being paranoid?

[eggie]

Hi guys quick question, do you think Gambits about to disappear again? Am worried they are setting it up for him to vanish off the radar once again. Am I being paranoid?

Before I can confirm you are being paranoid, I need to know what is making you think that Gambit is going away again?

[Washout]

I like the Sinister/Cyclops clone thing. I think it is an interesting, yet believable twist on the character. Also, if anyone other than Claremont thought of it, people would be in love with it.

[4sake]

I like the Sinister/Cyclops clone thing. I think it is an interesting, yet believable twist on the character. Also, if anyone other than Claremont thought of it, people would be in love with it.

NO, I'd still HATE it no matter who thought of it. :biggrin:

[Nathan]

Hi guys quick question, do you think Gambits about to disappear again? Am worried they are setting it up for him to vanish off the radar once again. Am I being paranoid?

Yes he is going away again, but it wont be for long, Carey is writeing him out of the book, but he's going on his own terms this time and itll be a plot point in Jan or Feb,

[MichaelChen]

Isn't he supposed to be Acadian? It would be kind of hard to be Acadian and the clone of a wasp at the same time. Impossible, in fact.

[witness]

Before I can confirm you are being paranoid, I need to know what is making you think that Gambit is going away again?

Well the fact that he's going to something dark that will "rock the X-men" in Legacy soon makes me think that after that Issue he's going to disappear for a year or two again (If anyone knows for a fact he's staying in legacy then let me know).

[witness]

Yes he is going away again, but it wont be for long, Carey is writeing him out of the book, but he's going on his own terms this time and itll be a plot point in Jan or Feb,

Hooray. Excellent news. Now where do we think he's going to end up next?

[Fionnuala]

Now where do we think he's going to end up next?

Nowhere.

The Deathbit 'revelation' in the Annual seems like Carey's setting up a way to get him out of the title so he doesn't have to address any outstanding issues between him and the Legacy's star- Rogue. If he stayed the fact that she can now touch people, and would maybe want to touch people and have normal human relationships couldn't be avoided forever and would probably interfere with whatever he wants to do with her. To be honest I've no idea why Carey put Gambit in the title at all if he was just going to be 'someone to be there' for Rogue and then written out again at a point at which there's a lot of wasted story potential- given his past with Rogue and the recent developments with her powers and status with the X-men. It's pointless and it annoys me.

I'm also very disappointed from the follow through on Rogue's big power development- it was three issues ago and she's barely said anything about it. This is the biggest development in her whole life! C'mon- she should be dancing on tabletops and crowing about it to everyone she's ever met.

[witness]

Nowhere.

The Deathbit 'revelation' in the Annual seems like Carey's setting up a way to get him out of the title so he doesn't have to address any outstanding issues between him and the Legacy's star- Rogue. If he stayed the fact that she can now touch people, and would maybe want to touch people and have normal human relationships couldn't be avoided forever and would probably interfere with whatever he wants to do with her. To be honest I've no idea why Carey put Gambit in the title at all if he was just going to be 'someone to be there' for Rogue and then written out again at a point at which there's a lot of wasted story potential- given his past with Rogue and the recent developments with her powers and status with the X-men. It's pointless and it annoys me.

I'm also very disappointed from the follow through on Rogue's big power development- it was three issues ago and she's barely said anything about it. This is the biggest development in her whole life! C'mon- she should be dancing on tabletops and crowing about it to everyone she's ever met.

Agreed that he's been little more than Rogue's Lackey in Legacy (Though I liked the Xavier/Gambit Issues). The problem with the Rogue thing is that their relationship has been at a S**t or get off the pot stage for an age now and mostly their relationship has stayed constipated. I think both characters would probably benefit from moving on to pastures new (and I say that with a heavy heart as I always liked their "tragic" relationship at first but it's just gone on and on)

[Fionnuala]

Agreed that he's been little more than Rogue's Lackey in Legacy (Though I liked the Xavier/Gambit Issues). The problem with the Rogue thing is that their relationship has been at a S**t or get off the pot stage for an age now and mostly their relationship has stayed constipated. I think both characters would probably benefit from moving on to pastures new (and I say that with a heavy heart as I always liked their "tragic" relationship at first but it's just gone on and on)

It seems like their relationship, either in a positive or negative way, hasn't been addressed at all- which, like I said, is kind of odd given that Rogue's had the most significant development in her powers in decades which means she can now, if she chose to, have a normal relationship either with Gambit or someone else. But... nobody's talked about it. She hasn't really talked to anyone about what's just happened apart from in the issue in which it happened. And it kind of seems like Gambit's being written out of the title to avoid dealing with their relationship at all. Gambit has been mostly a character crutch for her, but their relationship is pretty much at the same place it was two years ago- there's been no development there.

[eggie]

Agreed that he's been little more than Rogue's Lackey in Legacy (Though I liked the Xavier/Gambit Issues). The problem with the Rogue thing is that their relationship has been at a S**t or get off the pot stage for an age now and mostly their relationship has stayed constipated. I think both characters would probably benefit from moving on to pastures new (and I say that with a heavy heart as I always liked their "tragic" relationship at first but it's just gone on and on)

Agreed. When Gambit and Rogue first got together it was interesting...she couldn't touch him, he would sometimes do shady things (like an issue of X-Men where she is blindfolded and standing on the edge of a roof of diving board and he tells her to take more steps and she should "trust" him). I am a Gambit fan first and foremost, and became a Rogue fan mainly due to their relationship, which is now stale and moldy. It's time that these characters move on from their relationship or nonrelationship...I really don't want Gambit in the same book as Rogue...they each need to go their own way so that their characters can grow and change...I think their relationship definetely hurt them as individual characters because writers stopped writing Gambit or Rogue and began writing Gambit & Rogue.

My hope is that Gambit will be an X-Man but stay on the fringe, walk that line between is he a good guy or not which made me love the character in the first place..and the X-writers had the perfect opportunity to do just that when they brought him back into the fold after he had been one of Sinister's Mauraders. I've said it before and will say it again, I think Gambit would work best guest-starring in various X-titles...X-Force needs help only Gambit can provide so Gambit helps them out on a mission...X-Factor begins investigating robberies and suspect Gambit , so he appears in X-Factor for a few issues and helps them catch the real thief in the process. That's just my opinion, we will just have to wait and see would becomes of our beloved Ragin' Cajun!!

[witness]

All the bi-sexual threads got me thinking. If Gambits next relationship was with a man, who in the Marvel universe would you want him to be with?

[4sake]

All the bi-sexual threads got me thinking. If Gambits next relationship was with a man, who in the Marvel universe would you want him to be with?

I never really thought about it, but I would like to see him date Polaris or Cecilia Reyes or Black Cat.

[Red Lotus]

All the bi-sexual threads got me thinking. If Gambits next relationship was with a man, who in the Marvel universe would you want him to be with?

If the issue is drawn by Simone Bianchi then I would say Storm.

[witness]

Hmmm...I agree. but when did the problems start around what period. Back in the late 90s. was he damaged by the time Onslaught happened?

I've been mulling on this for a while and I think you can actually pinpoint the misjudged Trial of Gambit as where it started to go wrong. I think it was a mistake not having key members present when Gambit's secret was revealed ( I wanted to see Cyclops and Jeans reaction to the news Gambit had worked for Sinister not to mention Storm's and Bishop's as well but no we got to see how Maggot and Trish felt about Gambit being a traitor). Also the way he was re-introduced to the X-men without them ever (Issue 2 of Gambit's solo series when he discusses it with Storm aside) really addressing the issues that the aftermath of the trial would have caused.I really liked the Trial of Gambit in some ways but it had the wrong cast (similarly OZT would have been far better had all the X-men been involved). Splitting the teams between outer space and America was a big mistake as far as both OZT and Gambits "come-uppance" were concerned.

[witness]

okay this thread is dropping so I have a question. Do you want to see Gambit become the Witness eventually or would you prefer it if they just quietly swept the "Witness" thing under a carpet?

[Washout]

okay this thread is dropping so I have a question. Do you want to see Gambit become the Witness eventually or would you prefer it if they just quietly swept the "Witness" thing under a carpet?

I can't say I'm a huge Bishop fan, so I'd like to just stay away from his future if we can.

[4sake]

okay this thread is dropping so I have a question. Do you want to see Gambit become the Witness eventually or would you prefer it if they just quietly swept the "Witness" thing under a carpet?

I'll like to see it happen for a story line or 2. For his powers to get Witness like. Maybe that how he can find out about his past, parents & etc.

Maybe he could get that piece of his brain put back in that Sinister took out. Then maybe he has his powers some where in between Him currently, Witness & New Sun. Where he kind of powerful, but not Phoenix level.

Also I would like to him more of him & Bishop relationship explored

[witness]

I'll like to see it happen for a story line or 2. For his powers to get Witness like. Maybe that how he can find out about his past, parents & etc.

Maybe he could get that piece of his brain put back in that Sinister took out. Then maybe he has his powers some where in between Him currently, Witness & New Sun. Where he kind of powerful, but not Phoenix level.

Also I would like to him more of him & Bishop relationship explored

Totally agree that we don't need another phoenix level powered mutant running around (Pretty soon they're going to have to come up with a new "Omega plus" class there are that many Omega's running around). He did get the piece of his brain put back in the New son/sun storyline but also "supposedly" burnt his powers out. (this was contradicted later by Sage who told him his power levels were going back up and we know he can now charge living tissue so it would be easy from a plot point of view to give him some but not all of his power back). I wasn't really thinking mutant power-wise to be honest more that I'd like to see some steps to hint how he might become the business man/crime lord that he was in Bishops future (Witness powers have already been explained in the Gambit Solo to a degree anyway). Even just little hints here and there (Gambit buying shares in stark enterprises for example) would be a nice touch I feel.
The Gambit/Bishop relationship has been all but ignored in recent years and I actually felt the Confrontation they had in Messiah complex was out of character for Gambit. I think he more than most of the other X-men would have some sympathy for Bishop and the "...nice to see your true colours after all these years" line felt out of character to me. Considering everything that has gone down with Bishop it amazes me they haven't involved Gambit more in the plot in some ways (But then none of the current writers know how to write Gambit so perhaps it's not such a surprise).

[Slant]

Actually, I think Gambit would be the first to point out the irony in Bishop being a traitor. I thought that bit was perfect. He did wonder why Bishop would do it afterwards, but the first line was totally Gambit.

[4sake]

Totally agree that we don't need another phoenix level powered mutant running around (Pretty soon they're going to have to come up with a new "Omega plus" class there are that many Omega's running around). He did get the piece of his brain put back in the New son/sun storyline but also "supposedly" burnt his powers out. (this was contradicted later by Sage who told him his power levels were going back up and we know he can now charge living tissue so it would be easy from a plot point of view to give him some but not all of his power back). I wasn't really thinking mutant power-wise to be honest more that I'd like to see some steps to hint how he might become the business man/crime lord that he was in Bishops future (Witness powers have already been explained in the Gambit Solo to a degree anyway). Even just little hints here and there (Gambit buying shares in stark enterprises for example) would be a nice touch I feel.
The Gambit/Bishop relationship has been all but ignored in recent years and I actually felt the Confrontation they had in Messiah complex was out of character for Gambit. I think he more than most of the other X-men would have some sympathy for Bishop and the "...nice to see your true colours after all these years" line felt out of character to me. Considering everything that has gone down with Bishop it amazes me they haven't involved Gambit more in the plot in some ways (But then none of the current writers know how to write Gambit so perhaps it's not such a surprise).

I don't want him to become Crime lord or a villain, but business man would be both interesting & weird to me. lol (I'd read it)
I also thought it was out of character. But then you have to remember them seem to be making it up on the fly with certain characters during MC.

I Think I remember reading in one of those Millennial Visions book that Bishop was protecting Two mutant messiah kids or something like that in a mess up world/future. So I was shocked to say the least when I saw what they did (& continue to do to Bishop) in MC.

Also I find it interesting & troubling that Deadpool has 3 ongoing (maybe 4 book right now) & Gambit can't even get 1. If he does get a book they should can it Gambit or Gambit and The X-Ternals (give him cast or a team. Also things with X in the title usually sale well.. So I'd put an X-men or a X in it some where)

Maybe have Scott or Beast ask him to follow of on the call that Cecilia Reyes made about The NYX kids/characters. That could be the 1st arc right there. Maybe have him show inserted in Cecilia & or something. I think he will work best as a active X-men who doesn't live with the X-men or work with them all the time.

I forgot about both the Sage statement & getting the piece of the brain back. lol

It doesn't amaze me to be honest, I don't think really has anything to do with Gambit being hated & etc. Because he not the only character getting the brush off in story lines that they really should be in.

Nation X : Both Polaris & Havok should have role in this story, but they won't
Messiah Trilogy: Rachel, Gambit, Shard, X-Man & all the other mutants former Bishop time line should have a role in this story, but they probably won't.

[4sake]

This is something I've been wondering.

The name of Gambit's jr x-men team/squad was never revealed (at least it has it yet) So what do you think Gambit would have named them? (If you didn't read NM vol.2/New X-Men: Academy X/New X-men) All the older X-Men named there jr teams (after something important to them) & gave the members code names (some advisors let the students pick their on code names)

Moonstar - New Mutants
Frost - Hellions
Cyclops - Corsairs
Northstar (later led by Karma) - Alpha Squadron
Wolfsbane (later led by Magma) - Paragons
Storm- like Gambit had a unnamed squad
Rouge - like Gambit had a unnamed squad
Kitty - was Wing advisor (also maybe Armor & Blindfold advisor )

Iceman - unlike Gambit his squad was name either the Excelsiors or the Exemplars, but the members were never revealed (maybe because of M-day .. just my guess)

Beast - unlike Gambit his squad was name either the Excelsiors or the Exemplars, but the members were never revealed (maybe because of M-day &. just my guess)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_X-Men#Squads

So any ideas of what would be important enough to him (in your opinion) to name them after?

[Midnightblue]

So any ideas of what would be important enough to him (in your opinion) to name them after?

The first thing that came to my mind after reading your question was Thieves Guild, but on the second thought, he probably would'n choose something that obvious. So, maybe X-ternals?

[witness]

Actually, I think Gambit would be the first to point out the irony in Bishop being a traitor. I thought that bit was perfect. He did wonder why Bishop would do it afterwards, but the first line was totally Gambit.

Thing is he didn't so much as point out the irony, more openly gloated. Gambit might gloat about frivolous things all the time but not when its about something serious.

[witness]

A team for Gambit would be good. But I'd hope they put more thought in it than in AOA. I loved the Age of Apocalypse but I did think the X-ternals was the weak link. They seemed to be thrown together without much thought as if it was almost like "okay these are the 616 characters we have left where are we going to put them?".

[Slant]

Thing is he didn't so much as point out the irony, more openly gloated. Gambit might gloat about frivolous things all the time but not when its about something serious.

It didn't seem out of character for me really. I thought it was his best moment of MC.

[4sake]

The first thing that came to my mind after reading your question was Thieves Guild, but on the second thought, he probably would'n choose something that obvious. So, maybe X-ternals?

That what I was thinking also... Maybe the Guild or the X-ternals or X-Guild.

[4sake]

A team for Gambit would be good. But I'd hope they put more thought in it than in AOA. I loved the Age of Apocalypse but I did think the X-ternals was the weak link. They seemed to be thrown together without much thought as if it was almost like "okay these are the 616 characters we have left where are we going to put them?".

I agree on a team would be good (If & when he gets a book again),but I haven't read AoA X-ternals so I can't really speak on that.

[witness]

It didn't seem out of character for me really. I thought it was his best moment of MC.

The actual confrontation with Bishop was his best moment in MC (though that says more about the criminal under-use of him than anything else), I just thought that line didn't sit right.

[witness]

I agree on a team would be good (If & when he gets a book again),but I haven't read AoA X-ternals so I can't really speak on that.

I suspect rather cynically that the best chance of Gambit getting a book again are if its a Wolverine and Gambit on-going (I know they already had the Jack the Ripper-esque LS in which weirdly, Gambit's Mutant energies were blue rather than Magenta). :biggrin:

[4sake]

I suspect rather cynically that the best chance of Gambit getting a book again are if its a Wolverine and Gambit on-going (I know they already had the Jack the Ripper-esque LS in which weirdly, Gambit's Mutant energies were blue rather than Magenta). :biggrin:

Well we can hope lol.. :biggrin: Btw who do you think would be a good team/cast for Gambit to work with or lead or etc.

[witness]

Well we can hope lol.. :biggrin: Btw who do you think would be a good team/cast for Gambit to work with or lead or etc.

Right I've been struggling with this for days (part of me feels the solo book had the right idea with "guest" appearances) so my answer comes in three parts.

X-men (and other teams) characters I'd like to see him work with.

Domino- I want to avoid women who could be "charmed". She wouldn't take any s**t from Remy

Polaris-Considering how much they have in common (Sinister, Apocalypse, being considered outsiders in the X-family), we've never seen enough interaction between these two.

Storm- Maybe she could seek refuge in a friend after a messy divorce (just please god get her out of Wakandan purgatory).

Cannonball-The team/cast needs a conscience, Sam would provide that.

Pete Wisdom-Just always thought he and Remy would get on.

X-man-I always liked him ( less po-faced and warrior worn than Cable).

Jean Grey-When they bring her back, I'd like them to further explore the flirtation these characters have always had. (Cyclops is out the way with Emma and Rogue-Gambit is a car crash relationship)

Mercury- he could train her up as a thief.

other characters

Courier-Always loved Courier in Gambit's solo. He's worth a bigger role as part of a team.

Fontanelle- see above

Gateway- They are practically related anyway and it would be fun to see them bitch about Bishop together

Scalphunter- He's just been done over by "bouncing betty" and her friends.So maybe he could decide it would be prudent to work with Remy again. Plus i've always thought it would be nice to explore his relationship with Gambit further. (hey if Mystique, Juggernaut, Magneto etc can change sides for a bit why not Scalphunter? Its not as if "Mr" Sinister is around at the moment)

Lady Mastermind- I've always thought she was the sort of woman Gambit would actually go for (fun-loving but dangerous).

Bella-donna- More as a bit part player than an actual "member"

Spat and Grovel- I'm kidding of course.

Characters they should avoid.

Rogue- These two are just so tired together.

Wolverine- There is too much of him about as it is.

Bishop- Pre- nutso Bishop I'd of liked in the team. The nutso version can stay away.

Cyclops-see Wolverine entry

Emma Frost-see Wolverine entry

X-23-see Wolverine entry

Jubilee/Kitty Pryde/Any other "kid" sister type-Just avoid "young girl" characters altogether, They made Wolverine look like a paedo and with Gambits "flirting", this would only be worse for him.

Angel/Psylocke/Marrow-We don't really want to get bogged down in the "Mutant Massacre" stuff again.

I'm still not really satisfied with this list yet so I shall edit later when I've mulled on it some more.

[Justin K.]

Storm- Maybe she could seek refuge in a friend after a messy divorce (just please god get her out of Wakandan purgatory).

Not only that, but they were close friends at a time. He found her when she was reverted to a child and was important to her. It's a shame though a friendship like this was forgotten. I actually read Uncanny X-men 326 last night and after seeing the two interact, I miss how they got along. It was a while ago, but it would be nice to see their friendship acknowledged in some way. I don't think Storm though would go to Gambit as a shoulder to cry on, but she would be frustrated, he'd talk with her and calm her down, like she has with him, and it would all be good.

[witness]

Not only that, but they were close friends at a time. He found her when she was reverted to a child and was important to her. It's a shame though a friendship like this was forgotten. I actually read Uncanny X-men 326 last night and after seeing the two interact, I miss how they got along. It was a while ago, but it would be nice to see their friendship acknowledged in some way. I don't think Storm though would go to Gambit as a shoulder to cry on, but she would be frustrated, he'd talk with her and calm her down, like she has with him, and it would all be good.

Lets be honest. She's been arguably the ONLY friend Gambit has had in the X-men. I too really miss this friendship as it was a relationship that enhanced both characters. "True" friendships are truly rare amongst the X-men. I didn't mean so much as Gambit being a shoulder to cry on for Storm. More thinking that she might want to cut loose for a bit when she becomes single again. I can't think of a better X-man to cut loose with than Remy.

[4sake]

Right I've been struggling with this for days (part of me feels the solo book had the right idea with "guest" appearances) so my answer comes in three parts.

X-men (and other teams) characters I'd like to see him work with.

Domino- I want to avoid women who could be "charmed". She wouldn't take any s**t from Remy

Polaris-Considering how much they have in common (Sinister, Apocalypse, being considered outsiders in the X-family), we've never seen enough interaction between these two.

Storm- Maybe she could seek refuge in a friend after a messy divorce (just please god get her out of Wakandan purgatory).

Cannonball-The team/cast needs a conscience, Sam would provide that.

Pete Wisdom-Just always thought he and Remy would get on.

X-man-I always liked him ( less po-faced and warrior worn than Cable).

Jean Grey-When they bring her back, I'd like them to further explore the flirtation these characters have always had. (Cyclops is out the way with Emma and Rogue-Gambit is a car crash relationship)

other characters

Courier-Always loved Courier in Gambit's solo. He's worth a bigger role as part of a team.

Fontanelle- see above

Gateway- They are practically related anyway and it would be fun to see them bitch about Bishop together

Scalphunter- He's just been done over by "bouncing betty" and her friends.So maybe he could decide it would be prudent to work with Remy again. Plus i've always thought it would be nice to explore his relationship with Gambit further. (hey if Mystique, Juggernaut, Magneto etc can change sides for a bit why not Scalphunter? Its not as if "Mr" Sinister is around at the moment)

Lady Mastermind- I've always thought she was the sort of woman Gambit would actually go for (fun-loving but dangerous).

Bella-donna- More as a bit part player than an actual "member"

Spat and Grovel- I'm kidding of course.

Characters they should avoid.

Rogue- These two are just so tired together.

Wolverine- There is too much of him about as it is.

Bishop- Pre- nutso Bishop I'd of liked in the team. The nutso version can stay away.

Cyclops-see Wolverine entry

Emma Frost-see Wolverine entry

X-23-see Wolverine entry

Jubilee/Kitty Pryde/Any other "kid" sister type-Just avoid "young girl" characters altogether, They made Wolverine look like a paedo and with Gambits "flirting", this would only be worse for him.

Angel/Psylocke/Marrow-We don't really want to get bogged down in the "Mutant Massacre" stuff again.

I'm still not really satisfied with this list yet so I shall edit later when I've mulled on it some more.

Domino - would be interesting I agree..

Polaris -Also would be interesting I agree..

Storm- agree I'd like to see them team up.. I disagree about purgatory/divorce bs & nonsense.

I'm really indifferent to him teaming up with Jean Grey & Cannonball, Emma Frost, Psylocke, Fontanelle, Lady Mastermind, Bella-donna, Courier, X-23 & Scalphunter.

Pete Wisdom - Ive never cared for Pete he just seemed like english-like Gambit to me. Also no (IMO) to Deadpool, Longshot, Gateway & Shatterstar.

X-man - would be interesting I agree.

Jubilee & or Kitty Pryde - I really don't see the prob. Jubes is at least 20 now & Kitty is about 22.. Also neither of them act like or written like kid sisters or kids anymore (by writers who research & etc.)

Marrow, Cyclops, Bishop, Angel - I'd like to see him team up & talk with them.

Spat and Grovel - I think i these action figures.. So why not.

Rogue & Logan- I'd like to see him talk & team up with them for one last time (at least for a few years that is.)

I think Cecilia Reyes (maybe as a a new interest), NyX kids & Flubber (they never said if he was depowered or not) would be a guy cast/ team.

Cecilia was a X-man like Gambit & also works better (IMO) not as a full time X-Man like Gambit.

NyX (cast)- all have had hard lives and didn't get to go live in a mansion. So I think it be interesting mentor 16-17 like that. He be a good & bad example of what do all at the same time lol.

Flubber - he just had a interesting design & I'd like to see him again.

[witness]

Okay Gambit fans (I know you're out there somewhere) here's my latest theory (and not at all just a means to bump the thread).

Is Gambit being primed to join X-force?
Just a thought really, but with Death-bit returning in the legacy annual do you think the writers are setting him up to become a member of X-force. It seems to me that out of all the X-teams "force" is the one he'd "fit" best and short of turning him "evil" again (which lets face it would be a mistake) I can't see where they are going to take him with this.

[witness]

Domino - would be interesting I agree..

Polaris -Also would be interesting I agree..

Storm- agree I'd like to see them team up.. I disagree about purgatory/divorce bs & nonsense.

I'm really indifferent to him teaming up with Jean Grey & Cannonball, Emma Frost, Psylocke, Fontanelle, Lady Mastermind, Bella-donna, Courier, X-23 & Scalphunter.

Pete Wisdom - Ive never cared for Pete he just seemed like english-like Gambit to me. Also no (IMO) to Deadpool, Longshot, Gateway & Shatterstar.

X-man - would be interesting I agree.

Jubilee & or Kitty Pryde - I really don't see the prob. Jubes is at least 20 now & Kitty is about 22.. Also neither of them act like or written like kid sisters or kids anymore (by writers who research & etc.)

Marrow, Cyclops, Bishop, Angel - I'd like to see him team up & talk with them.

Spat and Grovel - I think i these action figures.. So why not.

Rogue & Logan- I'd like to see him talk & team up with them for one last time (at least for a few years that is.)

I think Cecilia Reyes (maybe as a a new interest), NyX kids & Flubber (they never said if he was depowered or not) would be a guy cast/ team.

Cecilia was a X-man like Gambit & also works better (IMO) not as a full time X-Man like Gambit.

NyX (cast)- all have had hard lives and didn't get to go live in a mansion. So I think it be interesting mentor 16-17 like that. He be a good & bad example of what do all at the same time lol.

Flubber - he just had a interesting design & I'd like to see him again.

Did you ever read any Spat and Grovel? They truly were the "Jar Jar binks" of the Marvel Universe.

Cecilia is an excellent choice I have to admit (I just completely forgot about her when I was considering X-men) and she would fit perfectly into the "Women who wouldn't be swayed by Remy's charm" bracket.

The problem with Rogue, Bishop and Wolverine is they've already been done with Gambit quite a lot over the years and I fear the writers would just end up re-treading old ground.

r.e. Storm- Just to clarify my position on this. Seeking refuge was a poor choice of words. When a relationship breaks down I think most of us seek the company of friends (if anything just to cut loose and have some fun with), I was not hinting at Storm "needing a shoulder to cry on" as I've never considered her to be that type (lets face it she's quite an emotionally controlled individual).

r.e. Jean- I've never been that bothered about her as a character so I think the only reason I included her was to wind up Cyclops (sure, he's with Emma now, but It would still wind him up)

[4sake]

Did you ever read any Spat and Grovel? They truly were the "Jar Jar binks" of the Marvel Universe.

Cecilia is an excellent choice I have to admit (I just completely forgot about her when I was considering X-men) and she would fit perfectly into the "Women who wouldn't be swayed by Remy's charm" bracket.

The problem with Rogue, Bishop and Wolverine is they've already been done with Gambit quite a lot over the years and I fear the writers would just end up re-treading old ground.

r.e. Storm- Just to clarify my position on this. Seeking refuge was a poor choice of words. When a relationship breaks down I think most of us seek the company of friends (if anything just to cut loose and have some fun with), I was not hinting at Storm "needing a shoulder to cry on" as I've never considered her to be that type (lets face it she's quite an emotionally controlled individual).

r.e. Jean- I've never been that bothered about her as a character so I think the only reason I included her was to wind up Cyclops (sure, he's with Emma now, but It would still wind him up)

No I hadn't read Spat and Grovel lol, I don't even know which ones which lol. but I saw a picture of the action figures posted in another thread on here & remember I had them as toys a kid. I was had Image version of Shatterstar.

Yeah that why I picked Cecilia.

Well it's always nice to hope for a better Gambit- Rouge Story, Gambit-Bishop story & Gambit-Logan story.

An Jean & him would be interesting.

[Nathan]

Okay Gambit fans (I know you're out there somewhere) here's my latest theory (and not at all just a means to bump the thread).

Is Gambit being primed to join X-force?
Just a thought really, but with Death-bit returning in the legacy annual do you think the writers are setting him up to become a member of X-force. It seems to me that out of all the X-teams "force" is the one he'd "fit" best and short of turning him "evil" again (which lets face it would be a mistake) I can't see where they are going to take him with this.

No i don think Gambit will be joining X-Force , everything he is going through now is a set up for the third and last chapter in the Messia Complex, when Poccy and Stryf return, Gambit will be becoming a villian again i think

[witness]

No I hadn't read Spat and Grovel lol, I don't even know which ones which lol. but I saw a picture of the action figures posted in another thread on here & remember I had them as toys a kid. I was had Image version of Shatterstar.

Yeah that why I picked Cecilia.

Well it's always nice to hope for a better Gambit- Rouge Story, Gambit-Bishop story & Gambit-Logan story.

An Jean & him would be interesting.

Spat is the little blonde girl and Grovel is the Lizard type alien.

I'd love a decent Gambit/Bishop or Gambit/Rogue story (to be fair the Gambit/Wolverine LS was actually quite good), As things stand with Bishop (gone nuts) and Rogue (now in charge of the kids) however it seems increasingly unlikely.

Still as the last caller (post) pointed out it looks like he's going to become a Villain again.

[witness]

No i don think Gambit will be joining X-Force , everything he is going through now is a set up for the third and last chapter in the Messia Complex, when Poccy and Stryf return, Gambit will be becoming a villian again i think

I suspect you are right (lets just hope they do it properly this time as Blood of Apocalypse was underwhelming, to say the least).

[streator]

Okay Gambit fans (I know you're out there somewhere) here's my latest theory (and not at all just a means to bump the thread).

Is Gambit being primed to join X-force?
Just a thought really, but with Death-bit returning in the legacy annual do you think the writers are setting him up to become a member of X-force. It seems to me that out of all the X-teams "force" is the one he'd "fit" best and short of turning him "evil" again (which lets face it would be a mistake) I can't see where they are going to take him with this.

i don't think gambit will join x-force but i wouldn't mind seeing him as a supporting character in the book. angel already fills the whole "transforming into death" role; having two team members doing it might be a bit much.

an all-horseman squad could be kind of interesting, though. gambit, wolverine, archangel, polaris, sunfire... there could be a fun story involving those characters together.

[4sake]

Okay Gambit fans (I know you're out there somewhere) here's my latest theory (and not at all just a means to bump the thread).

Is Gambit being primed to join X-force?
Just a thought really, but with Death-bit returning in the legacy annual do you think the writers are setting him up to become a member of X-force. It seems to me that out of all the X-teams "force" is the one he'd "fit" best and short of turning him "evil" again (which lets face it would be a mistake) I can't see where they are going to take him with this.

Is Gambit being primed to join X-force?

Both Yes & No :cool:

I can see him joining for a arc/storyline

No i don think Gambit will be joining X-Force , everything he is going through now is a set up for the third and last chapter in the Messia Complex, when Poccy and Stryf return, Gambit will be becoming a villian again i think

I don't think they will make him a villian again..

[4sake]

Spat is the little blonde girl and Grovel is the Lizard type alien.

I'd love a decent Gambit/Bishop or Gambit/Rogue story (to be fair the Gambit/Wolverine LS was actually quite good), As things stand with Bishop (gone nuts) and Rogue (now in charge of the kids) however it seems increasingly unlikely.

Still as the last caller (post) pointed out it looks like he's going to become a Villain again.

Spat is the little blonde girl and Grovel is the Lizard type alien.


Thanks for the info

I'd love a decent Gambit/Bishop or Gambit/Rogue story

As would I..

Still as the last caller (post) pointed out it looks like he's going to become a Villain again.

I don't see it happing...

[Naira K]

Know what would make me happy? Gambit in Second Coming.

[4sake]

Know what would make me happy? Gambit in Second Coming.


I think he'll be there & throw some cards, but that's about it...

[witness]

I think he'll be there & throw some cards, but that's about it...

I suspect you're right. It'll be a token appearance at best.

Until X-men Legacy 229 it'll be hard to gauge what role Gambit will play (if any) in the final part of the Messiah trilogy.

[4sake]

I suspect you're right. It'll be a token appearance at best.

Until X-men Legacy 229 it'll be hard to gauge what role Gambit will play (if any) in the final part of the Messiah trilogy.

Yeah he'll more than likely be in the background.. Which has it points (less chance of being written badly or killed or turn into a villain or etc).. when they star given him to many lines... That's when I'm going to start worrying lol..(See Bishop)

Also I really want him in the Doctor Voodoo: Avenger of the Supernatural book.

[witness]

Yeah he'll more than likely be in the background.. Which has it points (less chance of being written badly or killed or turn into a villain or etc).. when they star given him to many lines... That's when I'm going to start worrying lol..(See Bishop)

Also I really want him in the Doctor Voodoo: Avenger of the Supernatural book.

I think the example of Bishop is a sober reminder that things could be a lot worse for Gambit fans. :biggrin:

[4sake]

I think the example of Bishop is a sober reminder that things could be a lot worse for Gambit fans. :biggrin:

Very true... I'm also a Bishop fan (not matter how hard marvel want it to be)

[witness]

Very true... I'm also a Bishop fan (not matter how hard marvel want it to be)

I like to pretend the current Bishop isn't the real one. Hopefully he'll turn out to be an evil clone or something.

[streator]

Know what would make me happy? Gambit in Second Coming.

I think he'll be there & throw some cards, but that's about it...

he had a fairly large role in messiah complex, i think it's safe to assume that he'll at least be involved in second coming somehow.

[4sake]

he had a fairly large role in messiah complex, i think it's safe to assume that he'll at least be involved in second coming somehow.

Very true, but I don't think it will be the same this time.

[4sake]

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h318/BLOODMONEY_2006/NATION_X_2.jpg


NATION X #2 (of 4)
Written by C.B. CEBULSKI, BECKY CLOONAN, TIM FISH & JOHN BARBER
Penciled by BECKY CLOONAN, TIM FISH & MORE
Cover by DUSTIN WEAVER
IN THIS ISSUE: Jubilee returns to the X-Men, Gambit has trouble adjusting to life on Utopia, Northstar deals with the distance that island living necessitates and No-Girl has to save all the X-Men from a foe living right under their noses. Part 2 (of 4)
48 PGS./Rated A …$3.99

[eggie]

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h318/BLOODMONEY_2006/NATION_X_2.jpg


NATION X #2 (of 4)
Written by C.B. CEBULSKI, BECKY CLOONAN, TIM FISH & JOHN BARBER
Penciled by BECKY CLOONAN, TIM FISH & MORE
Cover by DUSTIN WEAVER
IN THIS ISSUE: Jubilee returns to the X-Men, Gambit has trouble adjusting to life on Utopia, Northstar deals with the distance that island living necessitates and No-Girl has to save all the X-Men from a foe living right under their noses. Part 2 (of 4)
48 PGS./Rated A …$3.99

At least Remy is still featured in an X-book in 2010, that means he doesn't fall completely off the radar (like a lot of us Gambit fans suspect) until after January 2010. AND, did anyone see that Legacy cover with Magneto and Rogue all over each other? I am all for that relationship because it means that Gambit won't be with Rogue...I like a single Gambit that can play the field!

Another thing, when did Jubilee get her powers back?!?! Her right hand is glowing and her glove looks like it was blown off!

[4sake]

At least Remy is still featured in an X-book in 2010, that means he doesn't fall completely off the radar (like a lot of us Gambit fans suspect) until after January 2010. AND, did anyone see that Legacy cover with Magneto and Rogue all over each other? I am all for that relationship because it means that Gambit won't be with Rogue...I like a single Gambit that can play the field!

Another thing, when did Jubilee get her powers back?!?! Her right hand is glowing and her glove looks like it was blown off!

Yeah it does look like that & to my knowledge she hasn't got them back yet. but I hope she did. (I don't really care how she did lol)

[Midnightblue]

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h318/BLOODMONEY_2006/NATION_X_2.jpg



That's so beautiful!!

[Naira K]

I really dig Dustin Weaver's art.
I'm lucky the book will star such great characters as Gambit, Northstar, and Jubilee. So good to know Gambit's still getting panel time.
Oh, and that Legacy cover is as sick as the whole Magneto/Rogue thing is. But it's all good. :smile: I'm just disappointed that Romy gets tossed aside.

[Fionnuala]

I hope Becky Cloonan is writing and drawing the Gambit one.

[streator]

Very true, but I don't think it will be the same this time.

i guess we'll have to see where things go with this death transformation stuff & remy's place in utopia.

the solict for nation x 2 has me interested, but i wasn't planning on picking up the mini and am kind of assuming that the gambit story will be mostly filler. i still haven't made up my mind about that series yet. the cover art is nice, though.

[Fionnuala]

If it's Becky Cloonan writing Gambit, I don't care if it's filler, continuity wise. She's a huge Gambit fan-girl and has been talking about writing him for years.

ETA: She is writing the Gambit bit. (http://inkandthunder.blogspot.com/) It ought to be worth a buy.

[Midnightblue]

If it's Becky Cloonan writing Gambit, I don't care if it's filler, continuity wise. She's a huge Gambit fan-girl and has been talking about writing him for years.

ETA: She is writing the Gambit bit. (http://inkandthunder.blogspot.com/) It ought to be worth a buy.

I've never heard of her. What has she written?

[Fionnuala]

I've never heard of her. What has she written?

She worked with Brian Wood on Demo and penciled American Virgin.

[Pixie_Solanas]

lol @ Jubilee still stuck in her late 90s raver gear. Whatever works for you, sweetheart.

Bare midriff? So faux pas.

[Fionnuala]

She's being ironic, duh.

[Pixie_Solanas]

She's being ironic, duh.

ironic in that she's a mid 90s relic that's been relegated to limbo and is now just beginning to see the light of day like a constipated dog turd stretched out of a taut hole?

[4sake]

http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=23387

[streator]

http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=23387

i guess it's fair that carey's bringing up the death stuff again, considering it was him who swept it under the rug in the first place. i was happy with ignoring it, though.

i'm glad to hear that gambit is still an integral part of legacy's cast in carey's mind.

[4sake]

i guess it's fair that carey's bringing up the death stuff again, considering it was him who swept it under the rug in the first place. i was happy with ignoring it, though.

i'm glad to hear that gambit is still an integral part of legacy's cast in carey's mind.

I agree.. :cool:

[eggie]

If given a choice I would vote to ignore the death-bit (thanks Milligan!) altogether. I was horrified when I saw Gambit change back into his horseman person...guess I'll just have to trust in Carey (who I have enjoyed very much during his entire X-Men run and have faith in because he is the guy who brought Gambit back) and wait and see what happens.

The only thing I liked about Carey's take on Death-bit was he didn't use gas powers. He had Gambit use his regular powers but instead of the charged card just exploding it was capable of killing...that is a much better twist for Horseman Gambit than what was done to him originally.

[witness]

If given a choice I would vote to ignore the death-bit (thanks Milligan!) altogether. I was horrified when I saw Gambit change back into his horseman person...guess I'll just have to trust in Carey (who I have enjoyed very much during his entire X-Men run and have faith in because he is the guy who brought Gambit back) and wait and see what happens.

The only thing I liked about Carey's take on Death-bit was he didn't use gas powers. He had Gambit use his regular powers but instead of the charged card just exploding it was capable of killing...that is a much better twist for Horseman Gambit than what was done to him originally.

I must admit that I was horrified at first as well. His new Death powers though have at least opened up a new vein of interest for me in Death-bit. Was it me or did the guy seem to get "Absorbed" into the playing card when he was killed? It's definitely much cooler than the rubbish "Gas" powers anyway.

As a Gambit fan I feel mildly happy for the first time in ages, I just got back from holiday and the bits of news I've missed out on (such as the Carey interview) have heartened me to say the least. At least it feels like he'll be playing a part somewhere (I had suspected he'd disappear again soon).

[eggie]

I must admit that I was horrified at first as well. His new Death powers though have at least opened up a new vein of interest for me in Death-bit. Was it me or did the guy seem to get "Absorbed" into the playing card when he was killed? It's definitely much cooler than the rubbish "Gas" powers anyway.

As a Gambit fan I feel mildly happy for the first time in ages, I just got back from holiday and the bits of news I've missed out on (such as the Carey interview) have heartened me to say the least. At least it feels like he'll be playing a part somewhere (I had suspected he'd disappear again soon).

It did look like the person was absorbed into the card when they were killed...interesting.

[eggie]

I would love for Steve Skroce to come back to comics and draw a Gambit one-shot or an issue of Legacy that only featured Gambit...that would make me very happy!!!

[Midnightblue]

I would love for Steve Skroce to come back to comics and draw a Gambit one-shot or an issue of Legacy that only featured Gambit...that would make me very happy!!!

if anyone drew a Gambit one-shot or an issue of Legacy that only featured him it would make me happy:smile:

[witness]

I would love for Steve Skroce to come back to comics and draw a Gambit one-shot or an issue of Legacy that only featured Gambit...that would make me very happy!!!

I'm all for this idea. Just Make Fabian Nicenza the writer and I'd be in comic book heaven.

[witness]

if anyone drew a Gambit one-shot or an issue of Legacy that only featured him it would make me happy:smile:

Amen to that :biggrin:

[eggie]

I'm all for this idea. Just Make Fabian Nicenza the writer and I'd be in comic book heaven.

Quoted for truth!

Fabe and Steve were a great team on the Gambit on-going! I still get those issues out all the time and re-read them...aaawww memories!

[witness]

Quoted for truth!

Fabe and Steve were a great team on the Gambit on-going! I still get those issues out all the time and re-read them...aaawww memories!

Yeah I'm "guilty" of that too (I've actually tried to get 2 copies of each issue of that run, 1 for reading and one for preservation). It's not just his work on Gambit on-going either. My favourite X-men comic of all time is from his stint. I've mentioned it on this forum before (Adjectiveless X-men vol 2 issue 45 the one in Seattle where Gambit's "Sinister" connection is first revealed), happy days. :biggrin:

[eggie]

Yeah I'm "guilty" of that too (I've actually tried to get 2 copies of each issue of that run, 1 for reading and one for preservation). It's not just his work on Gambit on-going either. My favourite X-men comic of all time is from his stint. I've mentioned it on this forum before (Adjectiveless X-men vol 2 issue 45 the one in Seattle where Gambit's "Sinister" connection is first revealed), happy days. :biggrin:

Yeah issue 45 is a superb issue and I totally love and read it regularly as well!

[Nikto]

I would love for Steve Skroce to come back to comics and draw a Gambit one-shot or an issue of Legacy that only featured Gambit...that would make me very happy!!!

+ Nicieza to that equation=my all time favorite Gambit creative team.

[witness]

+ Nicieza to that equation=my all time favorite Gambit creative team.

As I stated earlier, no one writes Gambit like the "Fabster"* :biggrin:

Out of interest (to the forum in general) , What is Steve Skroce working on at the moment?




*I can't believe I Just called him that. I think I'm turning into David Brent.

[eggie]

As I stated earlier, no one writes Gambit like the "Fabster" :biggrin:

Out of interest (to the forum in general) , What is Steve Skroce working on at the moment?

Not a clue. I know he did work on the Matrix sequels and then I remember a comic book about Frankenstein (I think?) and then nothing...I wish he would come back to the wonderful world of comics. Good luck to him in whatever he is doing though.

[Fionnuala]

I think Skroce's now working in the movies in some capacity.

On another note, has it ever been acknowledge in print anywhere that Gambit's Dad was dead? I really like what Fabian did with his as a character- he was sort of a sugar-daddy version of Gambit. He seemed to be implying that a lot of Remy's personality was influence by his Pop. It's such a waste if he's been killed off panel.

[Nathan]

I think Skroce's now working in the movies in some capacity.

On another note, has it ever been acknowledge in print anywhere that Gambit's Dad was dead? I really like what Fabian did with his as a character- he was sort of a sugar-daddy version of Gambit. He seemed to be implying that a lot of Remy's personality was influence by his Pop. It's such a waste if he's been killed off panel.


well in all the hand books it say's he is deceased but in Gambits second on-going Bella mentioned him being alive and head of the guilds and not being happy about her relationship with Bandit, and before that series he was said to be dead on all bio's and hand books

[witness]

well in all the hand books it say's he is deceased but in Gambits second on-going Bella mentioned him being alive and head of the guilds and not being happy about her relationship with Bandit, and before that series he was said to be dead on all bio's and hand books

It does seem strange that it barely got a mention. Jean luc has hade more page time than some of the (admittedly obscure) "X-men".

Here's hoping it gets examined in flashback in a limited series (or preferably new on-going, but I won't hold my breath).

[witness]

This is probably just another tragic attempt to bump this thread but I'll continue.

Who would you like Gambit's mother and father to be? (and for the sake of originality lets pretend Sinister is out of the running for some reason)

[4sake]

This is probably just another tragic attempt to bump this thread but I'll continue.

Who would you like Gambit's mother and father to be? (and for the sake of originality lets pretend Sinister is out of the running for some reason)

Dad: Jean-Luc Lebeau or or his (Jean-Luc) newly created/introduced brother.

Mom: a newly created/introduced woman from The Assassins Guild of New Orleans or Jean-Luc newly created/introduced sister.

[Midnightblue]

This is probably just another tragic attempt to bump this thread but I'll continue.

Who would you like Gambit's mother and father to be? (and for the sake of originality lets pretend Sinister is out of the running for some reason)

If they are some real people and he isn't a clone or in any way connected to Scott's family I'm ok with it. (Well, if he was another Magneto's kid it would not be original either, I guess)

[eggie]

I've always wanted it to turn out that Jean-Luc is Remy's real father. As for his mother, it would be fun if it was Mystique!

[witness]

Dad: Jean-Luc Lebeau or or his (Jean-Luc) newly created/introduced brother.

Mom: a newly created/introduced woman from The Assassins Guild of New Orleans or Jean-Luc newly created/introduced sister.

So the Uncle he didn't know he had turns out to be his dad. That would be fun.

Would you want either of them to be mutants?

[witness]

If they are some real people and he isn't a clone or in any way connected to Scott's family I'm ok with it. (Well, if he was another Magneto's kid it would not be original either, I guess)

How about if he was Apocalypse's (Assuming Apocalypse was using misdirection in "Blood of Apocalypse" as he didn't want Remy to know for some reason)?

(Not a serious suggestion just we've had Sinister and Magneto mentioned so why not Apoc)

[witness]

I've always wanted it to turn out that Jean-Luc is Remy's real father. As for his mother, it would be fun if it was Mystique!

I laughed so hard I spilt my coffee at the thought of Mystique being Gambit's real mother. Do you think it would affect Rogue n Remy's relationship? :biggrin:

[witness]

On the heritage subject it's been hinted that Amanda Mueller could be Gambit's mother. Seeing as she is the great great grandmother of Cyclops, Havok and Vulcan, wouldn't that make Gambit their great grandfather? (Cyclops already has a son whose older than him, why not a great grandfather who is younger).

If he is related to the Summers in any way I'm resigning as a Gambit Fan-boy.

[eggie]

I laughed so hard I spilt my coffee at the thought of Mystique being Gambit's real mother. Do you think it would affect Rogue n Remy's relationship? :biggrin:

God I hope so!!! :biggrin:

Plus I thought having Kurt for a brother would give him even more of a connection to the X-Men and a reason to stay around in some capacity.

Witness, I'm glad you liked it! :smile:

[eggie]

On the heritage subject it's been hinted that Amanda Mueller could be Gambit's mother. Seeing as she is the great great grandmother of Cyclops, Havok and Vulcan, wouldn't that make Gambit their great grandfather? (Cyclops already has a son whose older than him, why not a great grandfather who is younger).

If he is related to the Summers in any way I'm resigning as a Gambit Fan-boy.

I agree, keep Remy's heritage away from the Summers family! There are too many of them running around already!

[Midnightblue]

On the heritage subject it's been hinted that Amanda Mueller could be Gambit's mother. Seeing as she is the great great grandmother of Cyclops, Havok and Vulcan, wouldn't that make Gambit their great grandfather? (Cyclops already has a son whose older than him, why not a great grandfather who is younger).

If he is related to the Summers in any way I'm resigning as a Gambit Fan-boy.

Actually that would be great granduncle.
But it would still be horrible

[Midnightblue]

I've always wanted it to turn out that Jean-Luc is Remy's real father. As for his mother, it would be fun if it was Mystique!

Maybe if Milligan didn't leave, he would actually write something like that:biggrin:

[eggie]

Maybe if Milligan didn't leave, he would actually write something like that:biggrin:

Double post!

See below for actual post.

[eggie]

Maybe if Milligan didn't leave, he would actually write something like that:biggrin:

First, I love your avatar Midnightblue!

I think Chuck Austen would do it too (I actually enjoyed his run on Adjectiveless)!

No offense to any of his fans, I have only read his work on Adjectiveless, but I am not a fan of Peter Milligan's writing. His stories started out interesting enough and then petered (no pun intended) out by the end...and what he did to Remy is unforgivable!!!

I chose Mystique because I was trying to think of a woman who already exists and who would be old enough to be Remy's mother. Plus, this would guarantee no future Gambit/Rogue reunion because they would be brother and sister (I know Mystiqus isn't Rogue's biological mother, but it would still be weird and icky).

If they had let Gambit keep the power he had while he was blind to see into the future by looking at one of his charged cards, I would have pick Destiny to be his mother...kinda similar abilities, think that would be cool.

[Midnightblue]

First, I love your avatar Midnightblue!



Thanks, I like it too

[Midnightblue]

No offense to any of his fans, I have only read his work on Adjectiveless, but I am not a fan of Peter Milligan's writing. His stories started out interesting enough and then petered (no pun intended) out by the end...and what he did to Remy is unforgivable!!!



He had some really good ideas but he wasn't using them properly and after some time it just became a mess. But maybe it was only in X-men, I didn't read anything else from him either.

[4sake]

On the heritage subject it's been hinted that Amanda Mueller could be Gambit's mother. Seeing as she is the great great grandmother of Cyclops, Havok and Vulcan, wouldn't that make Gambit their great grandfather? (Cyclops already has a son whose older than him, why not a great grandfather who is younger).

If he is related to the Summers in any way I'm resigning as a Gambit Fan-boy.
:confused:

If he has to be a Summers, I say make him a cousin or something like that.

[witness]

Actually that would be great granduncle.
But it would still be horrible

My mistake your right it would be great granduncle.

Your also right that it would be horrible.

[witness]

:confused:

If he has to be a Summers, I say make him a cousin or something like that.

Marvel law practically dictates that he has to be a Summers :biggrin:

[Dr-Strange]

I chose Mystique because I was trying to think of a woman who already exists and who would be old enough to be Remy's mother. Plus, this would guarantee no future Gambit/Rogue reunion because they would be brother and sister (I know Mystiqus isn't Rogue's biological mother, but it would still be weird and icky)

I hope Gambit didn't sleep with Mystique in Milligan's run if you want her to be his mother!

[eggie]

I hope Gambit didn't sleep with Mystique in Milligan's run if you want her to be his mother!

That just adds to the creepy factor. I don't think they slept together tho, but who knows what Milligan had planned.

The more I think about the more I like Destiny as her mother...just bring back those visions in the charged cards...he still could've had them when his sight came back.

[Midnightblue]

Here's a new question!
How did you guys like Gambit's appearences in TV series?

I liked him most in X-men TAS. It was the first time I saw anything X-men related and Gambit became quickly my favorite character. He was the best looking guy (no big contest, though:wink: ) and he was cool with his mysterious past and witty comments.

In Evolution I didn't like that they made him a villain and it was strange to see him working for Magneto, because they never went well in comics. But I liked the episode when he and Rogue went to save his father, their relationship was nice.

In WatXm we really didn't see much of him. I hope he will get more time in season 2. I liked his episode in Genosha. I never thought of him and Lorna together before, but they were really cute here.

[Havok83]

Ive loved the idea of Gambit and Lorna for a long time and was pleasantly surprised to see that actually played with in WatXM. I hope it makes its way into the books eventually bc they'd make one hot pairing

[4sake]

Here's a new question!
How did you guys like Gambit's appearences in TV series?

I liked him most in X-men TAS. It was the first time I saw anything X-men related and Gambit became quickly my favorite character. He was the best looking guy (no big contest, though:wink: ) and he was cool with his mysterious past and witty comments.

In Evolution I didn't like that they made him a villain and it was strange to see him working for Magneto, because they never went well in comics. But I liked the episode when he and Rogue went to save his father, their relationship was nice.

In WatXm we really didn't see much of him. I hope he will get more time in season 2. I liked his episode in Genosha. I never thought of him and Lorna together before, but they were really cute here.

I like them all. but X-men TAS was the best IMO.. :cool:

Ive loved the idea of Gambit and Lorna for a long time and was pleasantly surprised to see that actually played with in WatXM. I hope it makes its way into the books eventually bc they'd make one hot pairing

I agree.. :cool:

[Naira K]

I liked all Gambit's TV versions actually! They all have their strengths and weaknesses, but they are all remarkable and very different! His character is not at all simple, they showed him going to the darker side in TAS, turning to the good in Evolution and having self-reflection in WATXM. Brilliant.

[witness]

Here's a new question!
How did you guys like Gambit's appearences in TV series?

I liked him most in X-men TAS. It was the first time I saw anything X-men related and Gambit became quickly my favorite character. He was the best looking guy (no big contest, though:wink: ) and he was cool with his mysterious past and witty comments.

In Evolution I didn't like that they made him a villain and it was strange to see him working for Magneto, because they never went well in comics. But I liked the episode when he and Rogue went to save his father, their relationship was nice.

In WatXm we really didn't see much of him. I hope he will get more time in season 2. I liked his episode in Genosha. I never thought of him and Lorna together before, but they were really cute here.

X-men TAS was probably my favourite.
I could live with him as a villain in evolution, but that cartoon was just wrong on so many levels (the saved by the bell stereotypes, Emo Rogue).
WatXm was better (except the title, I didn't realise they were Wolverine's X-men now) and I loved that they put him and Lorna together (to me these two have so much in common that it amazes me the comics have never explored that relationship).

[Castel]

I liked all Gambit's TV versions actually!

Hmm, me too, the evolution one was definitely the less interesting IMO but well, always a pleasure to see the ragin' cajun in action.

[Midnightblue]

Ive loved the idea of Gambit and Lorna for a long time and was pleasantly surprised to see that actually played with in WatXM. I hope it makes its way into the books eventually bc they'd make one hot pairing

yes, they would be great together, I would like to see Lorna with someone else than Alex or Bobby.

[Havok83]

yes, they would be great together, I would like to see Lorna with someone else than Alex or Bobby.
She did find him hot at her batchlerotte party. I was hoping for some interaction when they were on the same squad when Milligan and Austen were writing, but we didnt really get that

[eggie]

She did find him hot at her batchlerotte party. I was hoping for some interaction when they were on the same squad when Milligan and Austen were writing, but we didnt really get that

I forgot all about that! lol

I too think they could make for an interesting coupling. Gambit needs to get away from Rogue (no offense Rogue fans, I like her too, just don't want to see the two of them together anymore) and Polaris needs a new love interest too. I wish the writers would explore this relationship a little bit.

[f4faith]

I too think they could make for an interesting coupling. Gambit needs to get away from Rogue (no offense Rogue fans, I like her too, just don't want to see the two of them together anymore) and Polaris needs a new love interest too. I wish the writers would explore this relationship a little bit.

I don't. Polaris while I love her is even more messed up than Rogue. Outside of PAD's writing, she's mostly been batcrazy or hanging onto Havok. There is no way Gambit would get involved with her without being involved with Havok and having to compete in a triangle with a Summers if not right off then eventually and like Bobby be dumped for him because he's a Summers.

More Gambit and Polaris did not exist in WATXM. Polaris crushed on him and he used her only to show how she ended up crazy in Xaiver's future. There was nothing interesting about their interaction but to use WATXM Gambit as a prop. WATXM is without a doubt the least interesting and most poorly developed cartoon Gambit - his motivation so far has been simplistic and only showed up to look "bad". At least as a villain in Evolution, he had brains and some conflicting motivations as should be in a character called Gambit. Actually Evolution wasn't even that good until the Acolytes showed up. It was way too teeny bopper the two seasons before. Evo Gambit improved the cartoon as did interestingly Evo Colossus - a character that usually isn't interesting. On the other hand, WATXM Gambit was a throw away character - totally irrelevant to the main story of the season.

[4sake]

http://comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=3821&disp=table

[Midnightblue]

http://comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=3821&disp=table

looks great

[eggie]

http://comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=3821&disp=table

Make the purple parts fuscia (sp?) and I'ld like it more. Also not sure how I feel about a green trenchcoat on Remy...it makes me think of Grifter. Overall it is a pretty good design, I like all the black because that makes more sense for a thief.

I don't know, maybe they should have just put him back in his X-Treme X-Men costume as it was the BOMB!!!

[witness]

Not keen on the green trenchcoat (not keen actually on the art in general). Body armour is ok. Worst of all is his haircut. He's starting to look like a 1970's Football (Soccer for the U.S.) player.

[4sake]

Remy LeBeau & Cecilia Reyes make it happen Marvel!!!!!!!!!

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/2532/153684-60596-gambit_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/60596-gambit/105-153684/)

[4sake]

Fan art from comicvine & what I think would be cool looks for Gambit.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/7075/167833-145731-gambit_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/145731-gambit/105-167833/)

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/7075/167806-180798-gambit_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/180798-gambit/105-167806/)

[witness]

Fan art from comicvine & what I think would be cool looks for Gambit.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/7075/167833-145731-gambit_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/145731-gambit/105-167833/)

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/7075/167806-180798-gambit_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/180798-gambit/105-167806/)

I Love the red body armour on the first one and both of them would be preferable to his actual new costume.

[eggie]

Fan art from comicvine & what I think would be cool looks for Gambit.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/7075/167833-145731-gambit_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/145731-gambit/105-167833/)

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/7075/167806-180798-gambit_large.jpg (http://www.comicvine.com/180798-gambit/105-167806/)

I vote for the bottom right one! The chestpiece is like the one he wore when the X-Men stopped wearing the day-glo Morrison/Quietly leather...I like them all, but that one on the bottom right is my fave!

The top one is his original costume with different coloring, and the bottom left would be a good movie Gambit. These are all good desings tho!

[witness]

I vote for the bottom right one! The chestpiece is like the one he wore when the X-Men stopped wearing the day-glo Morrison/Quietly leather...I like them all, but that one on the bottom right is my fave!

The top one is his original costume with different coloring, and the bottom left would be a good movie Gambit. These are all good desings tho!

The red and silver works so much better than the normal colours in my humble opinion (and I do like his normal body armour).

[eggie]

The red and silver works so much better than the normal colours in my humble opinion (and I do like his normal body armour).

I too like the red and silver, but part of Gambit's flair and bravado is him wearing the pink/fuscia (?) chest piece...takes a real man to wear pink! :smile:

Honestly, anything is better then what they have him in now. I originally thought it was okay, but after having the issue in hand and really looking over Gambit's new duds, I don't care for the outfit at all. If they changed the trench color to brown and made the suit all black or change the purple parts to pink/fuscia from his original costume it might be okay.

[streator]

i read the legacy annual last night, the gambit story was just so-so.

are we to assume that the h.a.m.m.e.r. agent was sucked into the death card and is stuck there somehow? that's what it looked like to me. if that guy could see the apocalypse bits in remy's head, why couldn't any of the x-men's telepath's also pick up on it? the h.a.m.m.e.r. agent event mentioned that his telepathy wasn't as developed as some of the x-men's.

[witness]

I too like the red and silver, but part of Gambit's flair and bravado is him wearing the pink/fuscia (?) chest piece...takes a real man to wear pink! :smile:

Honestly, anything is better then what they have him in now. I originally thought it was okay, but after having the issue in hand and really looking over Gambit's new duds, I don't care for the outfit at all. If they changed the trench color to brown and made the suit all black or change the purple parts to pink/fuscia from his original costume it might be okay.

You make an excellent point about the pink, I never thought about it but you're right it does take a man who is confident in their own sexuality to wear the colour. :biggrin:

Agreed about the new look, aside from the aforementioned barnet problems I too HATE the trench coat.

[witness]

i read the legacy annual last night, the gambit story was just so-so.

are we to assume that the h.a.m.m.e.r. agent was sucked into the death card and is stuck there somehow? that's what it looked like to me. if that guy could see the apocalypse bits in remy's head, why couldn't any of the x-men's telepath's also pick up on it? the h.a.m.m.e.r. agent event mentioned that his telepathy wasn't as developed as some of the x-men's.

Its funny cause I came to the exact same conclusion myself when I read it. It did look like he was absorbed into the card.

It was odd about the telepathy. For a mind that both Jean Grey and Xavier couldn't scan properly it's amazing this two-bit telepath has no problems.

[Swashbuckler]

It's Gambit, he's not important enough for the telepaths to focus on.

[streator]

Its funny cause I came to the exact same conclusion myself when I read it. It did look like he was absorbed into the card.

do other people think something else happened in that scene? has carey commented on it one way or another?

here's something else i was thinking about: i'm older than gambit, the character. i was six when he first appeared. kind of strange to think about it. i would say that gambit was one of marvel's more popular characters in the 90s, definitely a staple of the x-books & related merchandise. this decade hasn't been as kind to the character but he's still here and still has fans. i would guess that most gambit fans grew up with the character as i did, but are there any fans who discovered the character more recently/were first exposed to gambit in this decade? i'd be interested to see how their opinions of the character might differ from what i think. how do others compare in age to gambit?

[eggie]

Its funny cause I came to the exact same conclusion myself when I read it. It did look like he was absorbed into the card.

It was odd about the telepathy. For a mind that both Jean Grey and Xavier couldn't scan properly it's amazing this two-bit telepath has no problems.

Yeah that bothered me too...the X-Men telepaths, who we are told are some of the most powerful, can't read Remy's mind by that H.A.M.M.E.R. agent could? I just don't get it, seems like a big slip considering Remy's history with telepaths, I mean, he lived with them in the X-Mansion for years and they always had problems when they attempted to scan his mind...ugh!

[eggie]

do other people think something else happened in that scene? has carey commented on it one way or another?

here's something else i was thinking about: i'm older than gambit, the character. i was six when he first appeared. kind of strange to think about it. i would say that gambit was one of marvel's more popular characters in the 90s, definitely a staple of the x-books & related merchandise. this decade hasn't been as kind to the character but he's still here and still has fans. i would guess that most gambit fans grew up with the character as i did, but are there any fans who discovered the character more recently/were first exposed to gambit in this decade? i'd be interested to see how their opinions of the character might differ from what i think. how do others compare in age to gambit?

Like you, I've been a Gambit fan since his first appearance and have grown-up with the character. But you make a good point about fans who were exposed to Gambit in the 2000's. His best ongoing by Fabe & Skroce had its best issues in 1999 so hopefully any new Gambit fans have tracked down those issues...heck, I crack those first 12 issues or so out a couple times a year to re-read just because I love the stories and art so much.

[eggie]

You make an excellent point about the pink, I never thought about it but you're right it does take a man who is confident in their own sexuality to wear the colour. :biggrin:

Agreed about the new look, aside from the aforementioned barnet problems I too HATE the trench coat.

I like when people can have different opinions and both can express their reasons without being mean or rude and having the other poster getting mad...I have left some forums because of that type of behaviour. There was a poll recently about "which X-character has the nicest fans" and I was going to vote for us Gambit fans, but then I figured that would be too self-serving so, I think, I voted for Nightcrawler fans...but Gambit really does have some of the nicest, friendliest fans...we can disagree about certain things but we don't resort to name calling or being trolls or anything like that.

Thanks witness!! You have restored my faith in comic book fan posters!!!! :biggrin:

P.S. Remy rules!!!!!

[4sake]

do other people think something else happened in that scene? has carey commented on it one way or another?

here's something else i was thinking about: i'm older than gambit, the character. i was six when he first appeared. kind of strange to think about it. i would say that gambit was one of marvel's more popular characters in the 90s, definitely a staple of the x-books & related merchandise. this decade hasn't been as kind to the character but he's still here and still has fans. i would guess that most gambit fans grew up with the character as i did, but are there any fans who discovered the character more recently/were first exposed to gambit in this decade? i'd be interested to see how their opinions of the character might differ from what i think. how do others compare in age to gambit?


I the 1st time I saw him was in the 90s cartoon & I started reading about him regularly( & comics regularly) around X-Men #157 (2004-2005ish), but I read a few back issues of both (the 90s one & the 04 one) Gambit series..

[witness]

do other people think something else happened in that scene? has carey commented on it one way or another?

here's something else i was thinking about: i'm older than gambit, the character. i was six when he first appeared. kind of strange to think about it. i would say that gambit was one of marvel's more popular characters in the 90s, definitely a staple of the x-books & related merchandise. this decade hasn't been as kind to the character but he's still here and still has fans. i would guess that most gambit fans grew up with the character as i did, but are there any fans who discovered the character more recently/were first exposed to gambit in this decade? i'd be interested to see how their opinions of the character might differ from what i think. how do others compare in age to gambit?

I started following the X-men properly in about 1989 so I too am older than Gambit.
I'd have to agree with eggie that the best Gambit stuff was pre-2000 so it would be very interesting to get a perspective from someone who's only experience of Gambit was 2000 onwards. (I do wonder though if I had started with say Messiah complex, whether I'd have the same fervour for him)

[witness]

I like when people can have different opinions and both can express their reasons without being mean or rude and having the other poster getting mad...I have left some forums because of that type of behaviour. There was a poll recently about "which X-character has the nicest fans" and I was going to vote for us Gambit fans, but then I figured that would be too self-serving so, I think, I voted for Nightcrawler fans...but Gambit really does have some of the nicest, friendliest fans...we can disagree about certain things but we don't resort to name calling or being trolls or anything like that.

Thanks witness!! You have restored my faith in comic book fan posters!!!! :biggrin:

P.S. Remy rules!!!!!

In fairness to cbr, in the short time I've been posting it's definitely one of the more civil forums I've been on. A few idiots but you will always get that and most of the regulars seem cool.

I actually posted on that poll but didn't put Gambit fans as the thread poster (I forget who it was now) asked us not to vote for our favourite characters fans. I opted for Magneto fans on the basis of a (admittedly tongue in cheek) "Bring back Joseph thread. Expecting hatred and vitriol from "Mags" fans, I actually got an informed intelligent debate.

Your absolutely right about Gambit fans, we do seem a generally good humoured bunch. Just watch out for Cyclops fans they are as uptight as they come.:wink: (This is a Joke Cyclops fans)

Eggie, as always It's been a pleasure. :smile:

[witness]

Hey folks It's blatant thread bump time. What is your favourite thing that Gambit has charged up? (I was originally going to list my ten favourite, but thought I'd end up naming all the good one's, before anyone else had a chance, so I settled after much deliberation on one)

I think I'd have to go for when he charged up a speeding train in x-men 51 (second series), I realise that Freud would have a field day with my choice but I thought it was cool nonetheless.

[eggie]

I liked when he charged a ship's anchor in Uncanny (it was drawn by Joe Mad and featured Gambit, Storm and Yukio) and then it dropped on the bad guys.

Good call Witness, that train one he did with Bishop was really great!

[witness]

I liked when he charged a ship's anchor in Uncanny (it was drawn by Joe Mad and featured Gambit, Storm and Yukio) and then it dropped on the bad guys.

Good call Witness, that train one he did with Bishop was really great!

Yeah the Anchor was cool wasn't it. That was a quality issue, I personally loved Joe Mad's art (Though I know a lot of people moaned about the exaggerated muscular look of the characters, I say, it's comics, if I want realism I'll watch the news).

[eggie]

Yeah the Anchor was cool wasn't it. That was a quality issue, I personally loved Joe Mad's art (Though I know a lot of people moaned about the exaggerated muscular look of the characters, I say, it's comics, if I want realism I'll watch the news).

Right! I like a lot of different artists and usually their style varies from one to the other. I'm not stick in the mindset that the X-Men should look like Jim Lee was drawing them...that is unless he was drawing them, then I would be all about it!! Bachalo's art is exactly conventional but people love, love, love him (myself included)! I really enjoy Mad's art and thought his run on Uncanny was pectacular! And, he drew a killer Gambit!

[Fionnuala]

Joe Mad's Gambit was hot to trot. He drew his hair great, too- not too long, not too short, and stylishly disheveled.

[witness]

Joe Mad's Gambit was hot to trot. He drew his hair great, too- not too long, not too short, and stylishly disheveled.

This is so true. (take note, whoever it was who did Gambit's recent re-design, this is how his hair should be)

(Incidentally we're on a new thread page now but the question of what's your favourite thing that Gambit has charged up? is still open)

[streator]

Hey folks It's blatant thread bump time. What is your favourite thing that Gambit has charged up? (I was originally going to list my ten favourite, but thought I'd end up naming all the good one's, before anyone else had a chance, so I settled after much deliberation on one)

I think I'd have to go for when he charged up a speeding train in x-men 51 (second series), I realise that Freud would have a field day with my choice but I thought it was cool nonetheless.

the charged gum he spit at x-cutioner was pretty clever.

[Fionnuala]

the charged gum he spit at x-cutioner was pretty clever.

I was going to say that.

I read the Gambit Origins that Mike Carey did. It's pretty flavourless, but rekindled my love for Gambit's Dad. He's such a fancy guy.

[eggie]

the charged gum he spit at x-cutioner was pretty clever.

So simple and yet so perfect in execution...great pick!!

[Nathan]

I was going to say that.

I read the Gambit Origins that Mike Carey did. It's pretty flavourless, but rekindled my love for Gambit's Dad. He's such a fancy guy.


Carey lost Jean luc's voice IMO and where was the dudes poney tail, also missing from Origins was the fact Gambit killed Julien with his sword not a charged dagger
the Maurders were not in the church originaly when Sinister gave Remy the vial of brain tisue and Sinister somehow managed to get Gambit to lead the Maurders remember 350 " every man has a price to charge and a price to pay ,i think i know your's LeBeau" Carey retconed/fucked it up and where was he New Sun powers, so now were made to belive Remy went to Sinister because he couldnt predict the detonation of his charges.

and the spiting the gum or chargeing up the x mansion floor during the onslaught saga were pretty cool

[witness]

the charged gum he spit at x-cutioner was pretty clever.

It was pretty stylish, It made my top 3.

[witness]

Carey lost Jean luc's voice IMO and where was the dudes poney tail, also missing from Origins was the fact Gambit killed Julien with his sword not a charged dagger
the Maurders were not in the church originaly when Sinister gave Remy the vial of brain tisue and Sinister somehow managed to get Gambit to lead the Maurders remember 350 " every man has a price to charge and a price to pay ,i think i know your's LeBeau" Carey retconed/fucked it up and where was he New Sun powers, so now were made to belive Remy went to Sinister because he couldnt predict the detonation of his charges.

and the spiting the gum or chargeing up the x mansion floor during the onslaught saga were pretty cool

Yeah the floor was cool. You're absolutely right about the Holes in origins. I've started ignoring retcons as they are pure laziness from a writing point of view. (Another one for the Fabian was right box)

[Fionnuala]

Carey lost Jean luc's voice IMO and where was the dudes poney tail, also missing from Origins was the fact Gambit killed Julien with his sword not a charged dagger
l

To be honest, there's a certain type of character type that Carey seems to have real problems with- a sort of more subdued shrewdness, or a non-manic manipulativeness. Crazy-nuts like Mystique and Lady M he can do; salt of the earth rough and tumble like Rogue and Sam he can do. Gambit? Jean-Luc? Not really. I find his Magneto, Prof. X and Karima all very colourless as well. They can do stuff physically once in a while that's interesting, but their dialogue is always dull, dull dull. Especially compared with the flavour people like Rogue have. Having said that, his Dr Nemesis is a hoot. But he's kind of more fruit-cakey than those other guys.

I don't miss Jean-Luc's ponytail. The entire Thieves Guild needs a haircut. I really wish he'd get mentioned more on panel. One of my favourite things about the Gambit series was their relationship, and the pattern of behaviour he inherited from his Dad- it was cute. Even a phone call, I'd settle for that...

[Nathan]

To be honest, there's a certain type of character type that Carey seems to have real problems with- a sort of more subdued shrewdness, or a non-manic manipulativeness. Crazy-nuts like Mystique and Lady M he can do; salt of the earth rough and tumble like Rogue and Sam he can do. Gambit? Jean-Luc? Not really. I find his Magneto, Prof. X and Karima all very colourless as well. They can do stuff physically once in a while that's interesting, but their dialogue is always dull, dull dull. Especially compared with the flavour people like Rogue have. Having said that, his Dr Nemesis is a hoot. But he's kind of more fruit-cakey than those other guys.

I don't miss Jean-Luc's ponytail. The entire Thieves Guild needs a haircut. I really wish he'd get mentioned more on panel. One of my favourite things about the Gambit series was their relationship, and the pattern of behaviour he inherited from his Dad- it was cute. Even a phone call, I'd settle for that...

but i dont think Remy and Jean luc get on all that much i mean Jean Luc has wronged Remy and knows he has yet he wont apoligise and Remy worships his father yet at the same time doesnt contact him or drop a line to say "hey dad im still alive" there is so much a writer can get out of a conversation from those two. the supporting cast in the first on-going were solid gold aswell im surprised someone hasnt written a book on the Guilds either , you wouldnt even need Gambit in it with Bella,Mercey, Lapin, Gris Gris, Fifolt the list goes on and im dreaming again :)

[Midnightblue]

the supporting cast in the first on-going were solid gold aswell im surprised someone hasnt written a book on the Guilds either , you wouldnt even need Gambit in it with Bella,Mercey, Lapin, Gris Gris, Fifolt the list goes on and im dreaming again :)

That's actually a good idea. I would love to see a thieves' guild miniseries, especially if it was written by Mackie or Nicieza. Too bad Marvel editors don't think the same:frown:

[Nathan]

That's actually a good idea. I would love to see a thieves' guild miniseries, especially if it was written by Mackie or Nicieza. Too bad Marvel editors don't think the same:frown:

thats because the x-office are idiots they have the same 20 charracters they push all the time its sickening

[MagnetoIzRight]

he was awesome in the wolverine movie

[Nathan]

he was awesome in the wolverine movie


he was ok but where was the accent, and why does Taylor run like a girl no offence to the women out there

[eggie]

he was ok but where was the accent, and why does Taylor run like a girl no offence to the women out there

Nathan you crack me up!!!! lol Then when I thought about I realized you are right, he does run weired!

Your wording is perfect!!

[Midnightblue]

he was awesome in the wolverine movie

Yes, he was good. I didn't quite like how Wolverine beat him in the fight, but as it was Wolverine's movie I could live with it. And the way they introduced him was very cool.

[witness]

It has to be said that he was one of the best things about the Wolverine movie. I'm not surprised by the lack of accent though, given the trouble the writers have had with it over the years the capacity for a balls up would have been a high one. (In fact he turned out to be far better in the movie than I could have hoped for all things considered)

[Blood Witch]

What was up with Gambit in the latest Legacy? It looked like he was talking to the card/death him?

Found an online post of the page at this blog:
http://soulkiller-rebel-rogue.blogspot.com/2009/12/x-men-legacy-230-rogues-pages.html

[The_green_listener]

THREAD BUMP. Going back to the best thing Gambit has charged, how about Hammerhead in Ultimate when he was saving the wee girl. That was awesome. I don't see the problem with just having Romy work for a long spell. There doesn't have to be any drama in that aspect, just give them genuine happiness with each other. I feel everybody who dislikes the characters relationship are annoyed with all the drama but just having them together as a couple without any problems would settle the characters down and let them focus on missions together without added complications. It's about time this happened. Also it's nice to among so many Gambit fans

[witness]

THREAD BUMP. Going back to the best thing Gambit has charged, how about Hammerhead in Ultimate when he was saving the wee girl. That was awesome. I don't see the problem with just having Romy work for a long spell. There doesn't have to be any drama in that aspect, just give them genuine happiness with each other. I feel everybody who dislikes the characters relationship are annoyed with all the drama but just having them together as a couple without any problems would settle the characters down and let them focus on missions together without added complications. It's about time this happened. Also it's nice to among so many Gambit fans

Hammerhead was a classic charge (it was arguably my favourite moment in the whole of the Ultimate universe), For another of my favourite charges I'd have to nominate the gold zippo he charges in the first Gambit limited series to take out a group of candra's "heavies".

[The_green_listener]

Yea I just reread that miniseries the other day. That was certainly a cool scene. I've heard a lot of people complain about ultimate Gambit. The way I see it, it was short and sweet. He wasn't in it long enough to be completely messed up, there was a flash romance with Rogue that wasn't all angst ridden and on off. The story with the wee girl was superb and the last panel where he turns the card into a heart for her summed up what Gambit should be, mysterious but full of heart

[witness]

What was up with Gambit in the latest Legacy? It looked like he was talking to the card/death him?

Found an online post of the page at this blog:
http://soulkiller-rebel-rogue.blogspot.com/2009/12/x-men-legacy-230-rogues-pages.html

It's a mystery at the moment. Presumably apoc's transformation awoke part of Gambit's subconcious that had previously been locked away. Memories of his Mother or Father perhaps (the lips on the card looked suspiciously like Amanda Muellers) but I grant you, I'm grasping at straws. The fact that Gambit appeared to absorb his victim into the card at the end of the X-men annual throw up some interesting questions about his new "Death" powers. (What's you're betting they pretend his gas powers never happened?) :biggrin:

[eggie]

It's a mystery at the moment. Presumably apoc's transformation awoke part of Gambit's subconcious that had previously been locked away. Memories of his Mother or Father perhaps (the lips on the card looked suspiciously like Amanda Muellers) but I grant you, I'm grasping at straws. The fact that Gambit appeared to absorb his victim into the card at the end of the X-men annual throw up some interesting questions about his new "Death" powers. (What's you're betting they pretend his gas powers never happened?) :biggrin:

I think Carey is just ignoring the Gas-bit and making Death-bit interesting and cool imo. Carey just tweaked Remy's powers to create what Death-bit should've been from the beginning. Although I wish Carey would just ignore Death-bit altogether, I am happy he is at least making it interesting this time around.

I thought he was talking to that guy that got sucked into his card in the Annual, but I am wrong based on the dialogue...I'm very interested in seeing where they are takin' my favorite Ragin' Cajun with this storyline!

[Midnightblue]

Although I wish Carey would just ignore Death-bit altogether, I am happy he is at least making it interesting this time around.


Exactly what I think

[witness]

I think Carey is just ignoring the Gas-bit and making Death-bit interesting and cool imo. Carey just tweaked Remy's powers to create what Death-bit should've been from the beginning. Although I wish Carey would just ignore Death-bit altogether, I am happy he is at least making it interesting this time around.

I thought he was talking to that guy that got sucked into his card in the Annual, but I am wrong based on the dialogue...I'm very interested in seeing where they are takin' my favorite Ragin' Cajun with this storyline!

Believe me I'm not complaining. His gas powers are a rare example, where I'm happy they are brushing it under the carpet. :biggrin:

[streator]

What was up with Gambit in the latest Legacy? It looked like he was talking to the card/death him?

Found an online post of the page at this blog:
http://soulkiller-rebel-rogue.blogspot.com/2009/12/x-men-legacy-230-rogues-pages.html

it definitely seems like something... sinister, although i kind of hope not as we already went through this in legacy last year.

[Midnightblue]

I like the idea that it has something to do with Sinister. The card said yes and no when he asked if it's something that awoke in him when Apocalypse changed him so it could be something that awoke when Sinister was changing him back.

[Fionnuala]

I like the idea that it has something to do with Sinister. The card said yes and no when he asked if it's something that awoke in him when Apocalypse changed him so it could be something that awoke when Sinister was changing him back.

I think maybe it was something Sinister put there when he was changing him back, as a present to himself.

[Nathan]

Carey mentioned years ago that he wanted to explore Gambits powers, does seeing a vision in the card not ring a bell ,it smells of Austin era blind Gambit, maybe Carey is combinig Austin and Milligans ideas.......

[Fionnuala]

Carey mentioned years ago that he wanted to explore Gambits powers, does seeing a vision in the card not ring a bell ,it smells of Austin era blind Gambit, maybe Carey is combinig Austin and Milligans ideas.......

I'd prefer it if he didn't. I really don't like the idea of mystic!Gambit. Blowing things up remotely, blowing up people, dissolving things- things that seems like natural extensions of his existing powerset I'm down with. I guess I see Gambit as a more practical type of person and 'seeing things' doesn't really fit with that.

[4sake]

Carey mentioned years ago that he wanted to explore Gambits powers, does seeing a vision in the card not ring a bell ,it smells of Austin era blind Gambit, maybe Carey is combinig Austin and Milligans ideas.......

BOO... Austin Gambit didn't suck (imo), but just wasn't great..

[eggie]

Carey mentioned years ago that he wanted to explore Gambits powers, does seeing a vision in the card not ring a bell ,it smells of Austin era blind Gambit, maybe Carey is combinig Austin and Milligans ideas.......

I loved Austen's development of blind Gambit being able to see the future in his charged cards...I thought that was a great new power for Remy...then Austen left and the next issue Claremont had Sage restore Remy's sight.

But, this is not the same thing. He is not seeing visions in his charged cards, he is talking to someone, or something, thats living in him or the cards or its the guy that got absorbed in the card.

Or, maybe Carey is using Austen's idea, but tweaking it a bit to go along with Remy's new Death-bit powers...idk >:( . Guess I'll just have to wait and see how this develops.

Eggie

**I am so happy we have had over 400 posts and almost 30 pages in a Gambit appreciation thread!!! It's nice to know that so many people care enough about him to post in this thread, and to see that Gambit is finally being featured in an X-Book again...thank you Mike Carey! :) **

[Shaid O Gray]

I'd prefer it if he didn't. I really don't like the idea of mystic!Gambit. Blowing things up remotely, blowing up people, dissolving things- things that seems like natural extensions of his existing powerset I'm down with. I guess I see Gambit as a more practical type of person and 'seeing things' doesn't really fit with that.

I agree. On the upside though, at least Carey doesn't want to go for the amazing powers of green fart clouds that Deathbit used to have. Who did that ever look like a good idea to anyway?

'Gambit expertly throws glowing cards that explode on impact' - vs - 'Deathbit sorta tosses stinky clouds that are not good for you.'

Seriously...

[witness]

If he has the "pre-cog" thing. I'd like to see him with multiple visions of the future, maybe have all the odds and probabilities of a situation played out in his mind leaving him to weigh up what the best course of action would be to take in any given situation.

[eggie]

If he has the "pre-cog" thing. I'd like to see him with multiple visions of the future, maybe have all the odds and probabilities of a situation played out in his mind leaving him to weigh up what the best course of action would be to take in any given situation.

Oooh, I like that. Kinda like Midnighter, expect with possible futures that depend on Gambit making the make moves/choices/decisions!!!

Marvel, make it so!!!

Great idea Witness!

[Nathan]

Gambit should get his New Sun Powers back cause thats a great story a Man being the most powerful being in the Universe and not wanting the power or being able to controll it properly

[Fionnuala]

The conclusion to the New Sun thing was really rushed, I kind of liked his more amped up but not-yet-Godlike powers better. Would it even be possible to go back to those powers after he burned them away?

Anyway, on random musings: if the X-books were in any way reflective of how people behave in real life, there'd be a queue of girls waiting for Gambit on Utopia. Lovesick, recently dumped or heartbroken men are automatically 100% more appealing to women.

Actually, if the X-books were true-to-life there'd be a baby conceived on Utopia daily.

[witness]

The conclusion to the New Sun thing was really rushed, I kind of liked his more amped up but not-yet-Godlike powers better. Would it even be possible to go back to those powers after he burned them away?

Anyway, on random musings: if the X-books were in any way reflective of how people behave in real life, there'd be a queue of girls waiting for Gambit on Utopia. Lovesick, recently dumped or heartbroken men are automatically 100% more appealing to women.

Actually, if the X-books were true-to-life there'd be a baby conceived on Utopia daily.

If you remember Sage said at one point that his power levels were going back up so it would be possible to give him them back.

[witness]

Oooh, I like that. Kinda like Midnighter, expect with possible futures that depend on Gambit making the make moves/choices/decisions!!!

Marvel, make it so!!!

Great idea Witness!

Thanks eggie, I just thought it would be a nice twist on the precog powers and would tie in with the Remy/gambler image nicely.

Just in case I don't get a chance to post in later, Merry Christmas (to those that celebrate it) Gambit fans.

[Midnightblue]

Actually, I don't like the precog powers. They just didn't work well with him. His classic kinetic and charming powers are cool enough. But that death/into card absorbing power/thing in the annual was kinda interesting. I'm curious where is that going.

[Midnightblue]

and Merry Christmas to everyone!:cool:

[The_green_listener]

Whatever happened to his charm power anyway. As lame as it was it was still fun. I think the last time I saw it used with any humour was in the Rogue solo series from 2004 when he was blind and needed to get across the country to her hotel. That was just amusing, old school fun Gambit

[streator]

Whatever happened to his charm power anyway. As lame as it was it was still fun. I think the last time I saw it used with any humour was in the Rogue solo series from 2004 when he was blind and needed to get across the country to her hotel. That was just amusing, old school fun Gambit

it was more or less written as being part of his personality and not part of his mutation.

[The_green_listener]

Exactly, which made it way less fun. He just became a guy with charm rather than a guy who could use it to devastating effect. I don't know it just seemed a lot more fun back then. He seems to have lost his humour for the larger part of this decade

[eggie]

Merry Christmas to all Gambit fans!

[eggie]

Any new Death-bit developments that I've missed (don't get to my LCS on a weekly basis anymore)?

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I really miss the Nicieza & Skroce Gambit series :frown: . That was the last time Gambit was written well imo...don't get me wrong, I love Mike Carey and am glad that he is using Gambit and giving him screentime and approve of what he is doing with Gambit's death powers a million percent more than what Milligan did, but its just not the same as that great ongoing he had. The first 12 issues with Fabe and Steve was pure magic imo. I love issue 3 where Remy fights the Mengo brothers for the first time, issue 4 where Gambit and Blade work together, and 6 and 7 where he fights The Pig and we get a glimpse at Remy's past and his first encounter with this new villian...these are my favorite issues, but they are all great and I like to re-read them on a fairly regular basis.

I also enjoyed Remy in X-Treme X-Men, I thought Claremont used him in a good way...he was back to being a thief and suspected murderer being hooking back up with Rogue and the rest of the team.

Ahh, memories.

[witness]

Any new Death-bit developments that I've missed (don't get to my LCS on a weekly basis anymore)?

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I really miss the Nicieza & Skroce Gambit series :frown: . That was the last time Gambit was written well imo...don't get me wrong, I love Mike Carey and am glad that he is using Gambit and giving him screentime and approve of what he is doing with Gambit's death powers a million percent more than what Milligan did, but its just not the same as that great ongoing he had. The first 12 issues with Fabe and Steve was pure magic imo. I love issue 3 where Remy fights the Mengo brothers for the first time, issue 4 where Gambit and Blade work together, and 6 and 7 where he fights The Pig and we get a glimpse at Remy's past and his first encounter with this new villian...these are my favorite issues, but they are all great and I like to re-read them on a fairly regular basis.

I also enjoyed Remy in X-Treme X-Men, I thought Claremont used him in a good way...he was back to being a thief and suspected murderer being hooking back up with Rogue and the rest of the team.

Ahh, memories.

I couldn't agree more. In fact I'd go a step further and say the first 24 issues (basically till fabian left) were great (occasionally the artwork suffered when they had guest pencilers, not always though). It was criminal it got cancelled.

[eggie]

I couldn't agree more. In fact I'd go a step further and say the first 24 issues (basically till fabian left) were great (occasionally the artwork suffered when they had guest pencilers, not always though). It was criminal it got cancelled.

Yeah, the stories were still good, but the art wasn't my cup of tea after Skroce left the book after issue 12. It was one of the best comic books on the racks at the time, imo.

[4sake]

http://www.comicbookresources.com/prev_img.php?pid=4180&pg=9

http://www.comicbookresources.com/prev_img.php?pid=4180&pg=10

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=4180&disp=table

[witness]

http://www.comicbookresources.com/prev_img.php?pid=4180&pg=9

http://www.comicbookresources.com/prev_img.php?pid=4180&pg=10

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=4180&disp=table

Thanks for the links 4sake, For the first time of the new year, I am officially excited :biggrin:

Who's the image in red supposed to be? (I've got a feeling I'm being really thick here)

Logan can suck my balls, it's not like he's whiter than white. (To paraphrase Eric Cartman)

lastly (and I'll admit rather pettily) his trench coat isn't long enough for my liking.

[MartinRedmond]

Yeah, the stories were still good, but the art wasn't my cup of tea after Skroce left the book after issue 12. It was one of the best comic books on the racks at the time, imo.

Skroce was such the right choice for Gambit. I liked when Remy threw a super charged piece of gum. Even the quiet scenes were exciting.

[Naira K]

http://www.comicbookresources.com/prev_img.php?pid=4180&pg=9

http://www.comicbookresources.com/prev_img.php?pid=4180&pg=10

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=4180&disp=table

Thank you, 4sake! What do y'all think about the art? It's weird, yet interesting. Very fresh.


Thanks for the links 4sake, For the first time of the new year, I am officially excited :biggrin:

Who's the image in red supposed to be? (I've got a feeling I'm being really thick here)

Logan can suck my balls, it's not like he's whiter than white. (To paraphrase Eric Cartman)

lastly (and I'll admit rather pettily) his trench coat isn't long enough for my liking.

I figure the image in red is Mr. Sinister, non? Well, Logan does mean good, but hey, that's Logan. He's such a meanie, I still can't forget how he cut Remy in MC. Though I think he trusts Gambit, but blames him for switching sides.
Hmm, actually I'd digging Gambit's outfit, both the trench coat and the black pants (thank God normal casual clothes are showing up).

[witness]

Yeah, the stories were still good, but the art wasn't my cup of tea after Skroce left the book after issue 12. It was one of the best comic books on the racks at the time, imo.

Yeah the art wasn't as good it is true, it's testament to the storytelling that this didn't bother me as much as it should have.

[witness]

Thank you, 4sake! What do y'all think about the art? It's weird, yet interesting. Very fresh.




I figure the image in red is Mr. Sinister, non? Well, Logan does mean good, but hey, that's Logan. He's such a meanie, I still can't forget how he cut Remy in MC. Though I think he trusts Gambit, but blames him for switching sides.
Hmm, actually I'd digging Gambit's outfit, both the trench coat and the black pants (thank God normal casual clothes are showing up).

It would make the most sense, but it doesn't LOOK like Mr Sinister. (though it is hard to tell)

Still as I said earlier I'm excited about this.

[4sake]

Thank you, 4sake! What do y'all think about the art? It's weird, yet interesting. Very fresh.


No prob, I agree about the art

Thanks for the links 4sake, For the first time of the new year, I am officially excited :biggrin:

Who's the image in red supposed to be? (I've got a feeling I'm being really thick here)

Logan can suck my balls, it's not like he's whiter than white. (To paraphrase Eric Cartman)

lastly (and I'll admit rather pettily) his trench coat isn't long enough for my liking.

No prob...

[Fionnuala]

lastly (and I'll admit rather pettily) his trench coat isn't long enough for my liking.

I like it- it's stylish.

[witness]

I like it- it's stylish.

I'm sure it is (I don't pretend to know anything about style), but I prefer a longer trench coat. (though it's just details, and I'm just happy to have any Gambit action)

[eggie]

http://www.comicbookresources.com/prev_img.php?pid=4180&pg=9

http://www.comicbookresources.com/prev_img.php?pid=4180&pg=10

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=4180&disp=table

Very exciting!! Looks great and the writing was good too! I like how Logan threw the "Maurader" thing in Remy's face, it creates tension and acknowledges that the X-Men are still suspicious of Remy, which is how it should be.

Can't wait to see how this turns out for our Remy!

[Midnightblue]

http://www.comicbookresources.com/prev_img.php?pid=4180&pg=9

http://www.comicbookresources.com/prev_img.php?pid=4180&pg=10

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=4180&disp=table

I don't like the art much but I'm really excited for this. Remy finally gets some spotlight!

[eggie]

Relly? I kind of dig the art in the Gambit section...its different.

[Fionnuala]

There's another inked panel on Cloonan's blog (http://inkandthunder.blogspot.com/2010/01/nation-x-2-jan-13-2010.html).

[eggie]

Gambit rules!!!! I just wanted to get this thread back on the first page.

Bump!!

[4sake]

http://marvel.com/news/toystories.11034.sideshow_bets_on_gambit

[Sylarmax]

Gambit rules!!!! I just wanted to get this thread back on the first page.

Bump!!

yea. :cool:

[eggie]

http://marvel.com/news/toystories.11034.sideshow_bets_on_gambit

That is sweet!! I like the one with the shorter hair personally...looks like classic Gambit!!

Thanks for posting 4sake!!

[witness]

http://marvel.com/news/toystories.11034.sideshow_bets_on_gambit

I'm quite impressed, they even got his eye's right (a rarity in figurines).

Nice link 4sake.

[witness]

Gambit rules!!!! I just wanted to get this thread back on the first page.

Bump!!

A noble cause if ever there was one. :biggrin:

[Fionnuala]

I always think it those statues are going to come with proper fabric clothing they should provide a change of outfit, like Barbie.

[eggie]

I always think it those statues are going to come with proper fabric clothing they should provide a change of outfit, like Barbie.

Yeah, we should be able to dress Gambit in the street clothes Jim Lee gave him in Adjectiveless #4 when he was taking Rogue on their first date! That would be cool with me! lol

[Sylarmax]

Gambit is amazing.

[natejoseph09]

Does anyone know if Gambit is appearing in any comic soon?

[Sylarmax]

I am sure Carey would use it as center of attention, once finished second coming.:cool:

[RickyD410]

Does anyone know if Gambit is appearing in any comic soon?

Look for him in Legacy. Maybe not this week, but he's got ongoing plot threads that will be seen in X-Men Legacy.

[Fionnuala]

Look for him in Legacy. Maybe not this week, but he's got ongoing plot threads that will be seen in X-Men Legacy.

He'll be in 234 for sure.

[eggie]

He'll be in 234 for sure.

Yea!!!!!!!!!!

[natejoseph09]

jus wanted to bump this thread. Any remy appearences?

[thjan]

mythog posted this news on the Marvel forums Gambit thread, and I thought I might as well post it here. On his facebook page, Carey said- "No, Gambit doesn't play a big role in SC, but he does feature, very prominently, in another event that's coming up soon."

http://soulkiller-rebel-rogue.blogspot.com/2010/02/gambit-news.html

This sounds good to me. It’s nice to hear that Gambit will actually have role in a event(since he so rarely does). I’m wondering if the event is the return of Apocalypse. If it is, this could be either good or bad for Gambit. On the one hand, it would be awesome if Gambit could resolve the whole Death thing, and also be instrumental in Apocalypse’s defeat. But on the other hand I’m worried that they might make Apocalypse have too much of an influence over Gambit. I don’t want Gambit’s prominent role to be struggling with his loyalties yet again. It’s too soon for that. He needs some time to rebuild some of the trust that he lost. I prefer the Gambit that is trying to make up for what he has done, and is seeking redemption in the X-Men.

[4sake]

mythog posted this news on the Marvel forums Gambit thread, and I thought I might as well post it here. On his facebook page, Carey said- "No, Gambit doesn't play a big role in SC, but he does feature, very prominently, in another event that's coming up soon."

http://soulkiller-rebel-rogue.blogspot.com/2010/02/gambit-news.html

Thanks for the info..


This sounds good to me. It’s nice to hear that Gambit will actually have role in a event(since he so rarely does). I’m wondering if the event is the return of Apocalypse. If it is, this could be either good or bad for Gambit. On the one hand, it would be awesome if Gambit could resolve the whole Death thing, and also be instrumental in Apocalypse’s defeat. But on the other hand I’m worried that they might make Apocalypse have too much of an influence over Gambit. I don’t want Gambit’s prominent role to be struggling with his loyalties yet again. It’s too soon for that. He needs some time to rebuild some of the trust that he lost. I prefer the Gambit that is trying to make up for what he has done, and is seeking redemption in the X-Men.

I agree..

[natejoseph09]

i doubt he'll have a big role probs jus used as a horseman

[damage_inc]

I am truly at a lost for what shall be done with Gambit. I certainly would have kept Deathbit buried, but Mike Carey thought it was too much to sweep under the rug. Seems like it will be about who Gambit essentially is though.

Wait and see approaches suck but hopefully this will be worthwhile for Gambit fans, who want to see Gambit as stable and adding to the story of the x-men regularly.

[Red Lotus]

mythog posted this news on the Marvel forums Gambit thread, and I thought I might as well post it here. On his facebook page, Carey said- "No, Gambit doesn't play a big role in SC, but he does feature, very prominently, in another event that's coming up soon."

http://soulkiller-rebel-rogue.blogspot.com/2010/02/gambit-news.html

This sounds good to me. It’s nice to hear that Gambit will actually have role in a event(since he so rarely does). I’m wondering if the event is the return of Apocalypse. If it is, this could be either good or bad for Gambit. On the one hand, it would be awesome if Gambit could resolve the whole Death thing, and also be instrumental in Apocalypse’s defeat. But on the other hand I’m worried that they might make Apocalypse have too much of an influence over Gambit. I don’t want Gambit’s prominent role to be struggling with his loyalties yet again. It’s too soon for that. He needs some time to rebuild some of the trust that he lost. I prefer the Gambit that is trying to make up for what he has done, and is seeking redemption in the X-Men.

I'm thinking its some thing to do with Apocalypse too. But I hope it would be that Gambit is one of Apocalypse descendants. Which would explain Apocalypse comment about Gambit's heritage.

[natejoseph09]

what do you think Gambit will do in second coming, if anything?

[Nathan]

what do you think Gambit will do in second coming, if anything?

probably get his ass kicked and be saved by Rogue

[teddyeatsyourface]

probably get his ass kicked and be saved by RogueThen turn into his Death persona and try to kill her again...

[Fionnuala]

I'd really prefer Gambit to be the son of a couple of nobodies rather than the son/clone of Mr Sinister or some descendant of Apocalypse. I believe FabNic always intended his parents to be inconsequential. His origin is so over convoluted anyway (Thieves Guild?!), why add more crap?

If he has to be related to anyone we've seen on panel my choice would be Fontanelle, because then she might appear again. Also, she's a filthy minded, grotesque old woman and I can see her having a kid, abandoning it and then not giving a shit when it turns up in her life again. She'd be the perfect Mother for him.

[Slant]

The longer the identities of his parents remains a mystery, the more likely its going to be a known character. Its just seems that way, since the only thing holding off on it accomplishes is allow for more vague comments from Sinister and/or Apocalypse, which pretty much seals the deal.

ah, oh well.

[Red Lotus]

what do you think Gambit will do in second coming, if anything?


Didn't some one ask Carey that question and he said Gambit wouldn't do anything in, but he was going to have a role in the next x-men event.

I'd really prefer Gambit to be the son of a couple of nobodies rather than the son/clone of Mr Sinister or some descendant of Apocalypse. I believe FabNic always intended his parents to be inconsequential. His origin is so over convoluted anyway (Thieves Guild?!), why add more crap?

If he has to be related to anyone we've seen on panel my choice would be Fontanelle, because then she might appear again. Also, she's a filthy minded, grotesque old woman and I can see her having a kid, abandoning it and then not giving a shit when it turns up in her life again. She'd be the perfect Mother for him.

That pretty much make him a Summers.

[4sake]

What The--?! Winter Games Day 5

http://marvel.com/news/comicstories.11333.msh~colon~_what_the--%3f~excl~_winter_games_day_5

[Fionnuala]

That pretty much make him a Summers.

But only distantly related to Cyclops, which is an improvement over closely related to Cyclops.

[witness]

mythog posted this news on the Marvel forums Gambit thread, and I thought I might as well post it here. On his facebook page, Carey said- "No, Gambit doesn't play a big role in SC, but he does feature, very prominently, in another event that's coming up soon."

http://soulkiller-rebel-rogue.blogspot.com/2010/02/gambit-news.html

This sounds good to me. It’s nice to hear that Gambit will actually have role in a event(since he so rarely does). I’m wondering if the event is the return of Apocalypse. If it is, this could be either good or bad for Gambit. On the one hand, it would be awesome if Gambit could resolve the whole Death thing, and also be instrumental in Apocalypse’s defeat. But on the other hand I’m worried that they might make Apocalypse have too much of an influence over Gambit. I don’t want Gambit’s prominent role to be struggling with his loyalties yet again. It’s too soon for that. He needs some time to rebuild some of the trust that he lost. I prefer the Gambit that is trying to make up for what he has done, and is seeking redemption in the X-Men.

Personally I'm just glad he's going to be featured prominently in something again. Thank you for the info thjan, you made my year.

[DeathMasque]

Hi y'all. I went on sabbatical after Remy had his little Death experience, and I'm getting back the X-books only to find out he's still having issues with it. I have to say, like the idea of Gambit-as-Death, but only if they use the story to make him awesome, not whiny. No gas powers. That was stupid.

Who else out there thinks Gambit should finally move on and let Rogue go (and vice versa)???

I liked Rogue and Gambit together - I did - but its getting painful to watch. Rogue needs to go on a few dates and Remy needs to go get a different, equally cool girlfriend for a while. Then the writers can get in there and mess it all up again.

[witness]

Hi y'all. I went on sabbatical after Remy had his little Death experience, and I'm getting back the X-books only to find out he's still having issues with it. I have to say, like the idea of Gambit-as-Death, but only if they use the story to make him awesome, not whiny. No gas powers. That was stupid.

Who else out there thinks Gambit should finally move on and let Rogue go (and vice versa)???

I liked Rogue and Gambit together - I did - but its getting painful to watch. Rogue needs to go on a few dates and Remy needs to go get a different, equally cool girlfriend for a while. Then the writers can get in there and mess it all up again.

Thankfully it looks like we've seen the last of the Gas powers. Gambit and Rogue is a dead horse they've been flogging for years now, thankfully it looks like they are moving away from it with Rogue. Totally agree he needs a new cool girlfriend, do you have anyone in mind? I've always thought Polaris and Gambit would make an interesting couple (both been messed with by Sinny, both outsider X-men who have never really been accepted.

Anyway welcome back to the fold. (as far as Gambit is concerned you haven't really missed much, Marvel still seemingly don't have a clue what to do with him)

[eggie]

I always thought Gambit and Psylocke would make a cool couple! The thief and the ninja! :D

[Red Lotus]

Totally agree he needs a new cool girlfriend, do you have anyone in mind? I've always thought Polaris and Gambit would make an interesting couple (both been messed with by Sinny, both outsider X-men who have never really been accepted.


Regan Wyngarde. They both seem to be at their best when you are wondering what their real motives are. Besides who makes a better partner for a thief then some who is a master of illusions.

[carlyquin]

i'm sadly still a sucker for gambit and rouge

[teddyeatsyourface]

Regan Wyngarde. They both seem to be at their best when you are wondering what their real motives are. Besides who makes a better partner for a thief then some who is a master of illusions.
She's too much woman for him. He should date someone who won't completely upstage him in the relationship. He needs someone mellow, but still can kick some serious ass when necessary... I have no idea who that person is but i'm sure he/she exist out there somewhere. :wink:

[DeathMasque]

I'm think Remy needs a with a woman who 'gets' him, and maybe 'atypical' morals (that way they could really have some fun on the page!).

Polaris might be okay for Remy, since they share the whole Horseman thing.

Or Sage. Since she was a spy for so many years, she and Gambit could go out and do some aweful things in the name of Good. :evilsmile:

[eggie]

Regan Wyngarde. They both seem to be at their best when you are wondering what their real motives are. Besides who makes a better partner for a thief then some who is a master of illusions.

Ooooh, I like this idea...good suggestion Red Lotus.

P.S. What ever happened to Red Lotus? I liked him during that X-Treme arc he was in and then he just disappeared into limbo...Marvel should bring him back as a member of the X-Men post 'Second Coming'!!!!! I thought he and Gambit made a cool team, kinda like Gambit and Bishop did post-Onslaught!

[SynthesisNY]

Gambit and Roulette, perfect couple

[Fionnuala]

i'm sadly still a sucker for gambit and rouge

Me too. Rogue/Gambit covers must still shift comics, going by how often they use them.

Polaris and Regan would be even harder work than Rogue. I always liked Belladonna, but that's as dead as a doornail.

[Fionnuala]

So Gambit's going to be up front centre but not in Legacy, eh? I'm stumped as to what title he will be in- it won't be Uncanny or X-Factor and I was under the impression that X-Force was winding up post-Kyle and Yost. I hope he isn't being written out of Legacy entirely- it's not the best version of Gambit ever but at least Carey doesn't actively loathe the character and want to humiliate him.

[natejoseph09]

So Gambit's going to be up front centre but not in Legacy, eh? I'm stumped as to what title he will be in- it won't be Uncanny or X-Factor and I was under the impression that X-Force was winding up post-Kyle and Yost. I hope he isn't being written out of Legacy entirely- it's not the best version of Gambit ever but at least Carey doesn't actively loathe the character and want to humiliate him.

why can't he be in Uncanny or X factor?

[Fionnuala]

Fraction doesn't like him, or just can't be bothered acknowledging he's alive, and he isn't a good fit for X-Factor. I can't see PAD taking him on, and I can't see Gambit living in X-Factor HQ taking instructions from Madrox.

[teddyeatsyourface]

That's IF he even bothers to stay with the X-men. :/ I could see him being possessed by Mr Sinister or whoever the hell is inside his head.

[Slant]

Thats so tired at this point.

[Uncanny Madman]

I couldn't find this thread to put the Mike Carey facebook tidbit in, stupid useless search function!

But yeah, I do wonder what "front and center" will entail and where it will occur. "About to be" would suggest Second Coming to me. Either that or some sort of Apocalypse centric thing that may include Archangel (Husk, Jubilee, Chamber?).

[teddyeatsyourface]

I know, but it's the only thing that the writer's know what to do with him.

[Fionnuala]

Either that or some sort of Apocalypse centric thing that may include Archangel (Husk, Jubilee, Chamber?).

That looks like the most obvious thing. Would the return of Apocalypse be mini-material or would this fit into any of the core titles?