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AN0LE
06-29-2009, 01:05 PM
http://comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=2958&disp=table

justinkos91
06-29-2009, 01:24 PM
OMG, I have been waiting for this, and Siryn has her hot Jacket back
Part of me is glad DeLandro's drawing this fight though.
Can't wait for this to come out...

Hi-Fi
06-29-2009, 01:25 PM
Art looks gorgeous. DeLandro is amazing.

AN0LE
06-29-2009, 01:45 PM
Art looks gorgeous. DeLandro is amazing.

Agreed! He is doing a stellar job on this book!!

Trississ
06-29-2009, 02:00 PM
Who's the purple chick? Is that someone we're supposed to know?

AN0LE
06-29-2009, 02:01 PM
Who's the purple chick? Is that someone we're supposed to know?

Monet after being taken over by Cortex.

eurazn
06-29-2009, 02:04 PM
OMG, I have been waiting for this, and Siryn has her hot Jacket back

That jacket is fantastic! I hope she keeps it this time around.

As for the preview, I'm still not feeling Ruby. There really are too many Summers spawn and her aesthetic is just ... off-putting. M looks crazy scary; I can't wait for the battle, too!

FeminineMystique
06-29-2009, 02:20 PM
That jacket is fantastic! I hope she keeps it this time around.

As for the preview, I'm still not feeling Ruby. There really are too many Summers spawn and her aesthetic is just ... off-putting. M looks crazy scary; I can't wait for the battle, too!

I like Ruby's look. It's funky and a little different. :biggrin:

And I hope M is alright by the end of this story arc. She's one of my favourite characters in the series

eurazn
06-29-2009, 02:24 PM
I like Ruby's look. It's funky and a little different. :biggrin:

I just ... can't ...! I'm sorry! lol

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/15/Ruby_Summers.jpg/285px-Ruby_Summers.jpg http://makingcentsintexas.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/kool-aid.jpg

SayOcean
06-29-2009, 02:50 PM
I agree with what everyone else said....this preview looks pretty cool, and it would be awesome to see knock out old fashioned catfight between Siryn and M.... but would thersa even stand a chance???? and does anyone know what PAD have planned for the 5oth issue

NewMutant
06-29-2009, 03:01 PM
Where is the morning after scene where Shatterstar is worried he might be pregnant?

eurazn
06-29-2009, 03:06 PM
Where is the morning after scene where Shatterstar is worried he might be pregnant?

He's fine, don't worry. Even while being mind-controlled, he had the foresight to bring RU486 with him.

7thangel
06-29-2009, 03:09 PM
As for the preview, I'm still not feeling Ruby. There really are too many Summers spawn and her aesthetic is just ... off-putting.

I just ... can't ...! I'm sorry! lol

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/15/Ruby_Summers.jpg/285px-Ruby_Summers.jpg http://makingcentsintexas.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/kool-aid.jpg
co- muthfu*kin'-sign x 1000

Terry121
06-29-2009, 03:11 PM
Where is the morning after scene where Shatterstar is worried he might be pregnant?

Probably in X-Factor 47....

Ever since Jamies future jaunt they have giving the story lines in rotations: one issue Guido, Rictor, Priest Madrox and future story then Darvin, M, Syrin and future story etc.

Speaking of which can't wait for it!!!!

twbasketcase
06-29-2009, 03:20 PM
Man I hope Siryn wins this. She's long overdue to win one :biggrin:

Pugfugly
06-29-2009, 04:06 PM
Is it just me, or has X-Factor been on a bi-weekly schedule as of late? Don't get me wrong, the shorter the wait the better, but it seems a little odd.

Michael P
06-29-2009, 04:10 PM
Is it just me, or has X-Factor been on a bi-weekly schedule as of late? Don't get me wrong, the shorter the wait the better, but it seems a little odd.

For whatever reason, they decided to ship two issues in June. I'm not complaining, mind you.

Somebody
06-29-2009, 04:14 PM
Where's Siryn's caesarian scar? It should be visible on the fifth page, surely.

timbox
06-29-2009, 04:15 PM
Where is Rictor slapping Shatterstar's gay face?

Peter David
06-29-2009, 04:17 PM
Yeah, we're bi-weekly for a little while. Don't think THAT hasn't been exciting.

And by the way, on a side note (since the relevant thread was locked down), for those who think that I'm oversensitive to criticism: If I felt the need to produce a 3000 word screed every time someone took issue with something I've written, I'd never have time to do anything else. Just sayin'--some folks can dish it out, but...boy.

PAD

Bronze Badger
06-29-2009, 04:21 PM
Yeah, we're bi-weekly for a little while. Don't think THAT hasn't been exciting.

And by the way, on a side note (since the relevant thread was locked down), for those who think that I'm oversensitive to criticism: If I felt the need to produce a 3000 word screed every time someone took issue with something I've written, I'd never have time to do anything else. Just sayin'--some folks can dish it out, but...boy.

PAD

Hey PAD, I love X-Factor, but lately it's been a little stale. Do you think the book would benefit from some better villians? I know you're focusing on more intimate stories, but with the firepower on the team, it would be great to see a big throwdown with a big time villian. Just my two cents.

Michael P
06-29-2009, 04:26 PM
Where's Siryn's caesarian scar? It should be visible on the fifth page, surely.

No-Prize: She's covering it with makeup.

twbasketcase
06-29-2009, 04:27 PM
Where's Siryn's caesarian scar? It should be visible on the fifth page, surely.

Man I was wondering that way back in issue 41 :|

That JonoGuy
06-29-2009, 04:30 PM
I think mutants are supposed to heal quicker or something. That might explain it.

justinkos91
06-29-2009, 04:48 PM
Man I hope Siryn wins this. She's long overdue to win one :biggrin:

As do I. Siryn can do so many things with her powers, I hope those aren't forgotten.
I hope we see more than just her usual sonic scream and get creative with her powers.

Azure
06-29-2009, 04:58 PM
Hey PAD, I love X-Factor, but lately it's been a little stale. Do you think the book would benefit from some better villians? I know you're focusing on more intimate stories, but with the firepower on the team, it would be great to see a big throwdown with a big time villian. Just my two cents.

Please re-evaluate the question you just asked.

Somebody
06-29-2009, 05:02 PM
I think mutants are supposed to heal quicker or something. That might explain it.

It's not "quicker" - c-section scars never disappear. Plus, if you recall, she *ripped it back open* after it had originally been sewed up. That can't have helped.

SayOcean
06-29-2009, 05:04 PM
I think mutants are supposed to heal quicker or something. That might explain it.I dont thinkso

As do I. Siryn can do so many things with her powers, I hope those aren't forgotten.
I hope we see more than just her usual sonic scream and get creative with her powers.uhhhh either way its still just coming from her voice M can totally whup up on her, not that i dont like Siryn.....but seriously M is prefect

justinkos91
06-29-2009, 05:06 PM
I dont thinkso

uhhhh either way its still just coming from her voice M can totally whup up on her, not that i dont like Siryn.....but seriously M is prefect

Don't be so doubtful, M has enhanced senses, if you saw, she had to cover her ears when Siryn let loose in the hospital.
M may have strength, flight and speed, but it doesn't necessarily make her the automatic winner.
Nobody's perfect...

twbasketcase
06-29-2009, 05:07 PM
As do I. Siryn can do so many things with her powers, I hope those aren't forgotten.
I hope we see more than just her usual sonic scream and get creative with her powers.

IAWTC. Especially since Monet has super hearing, I'm sure Terry could do a million different things to take advantage of that. Monet would be pretty damn hard to beat with all the defenses she has, but to take advantage of one of those powers and just amplify it to the point of turning it around on her would be exciting to see.

Plus Terry just kicks so much ass, so that's reason enough.

twbasketcase
06-29-2009, 05:09 PM
I think mutants are supposed to heal quicker or something. That might explain it.

It's a surgical scar though. :/ Terry has no healing factor of any sort, so a wound of that size would not heal up that quickly in just five-ish weeks.

justinkos91
06-29-2009, 05:11 PM
It's a surgical scar though. :/ Terry has no healing factor of any sort, so a wound of that size would not heal up that quickly in just five-ish weeks.

Superheroes don't scar, it's canon. Havok had that face scar, gone.
and that's just one example...

That JonoGuy
06-29-2009, 05:12 PM
It's a surgical scar though. :/ Terry has no healing factor of any sort, so a wound of that size would not heal up that quickly in just five-ish weeks.

Hey, i think it's a pretty crappy excuse too. Blame chuck austen. I believe he is the one who wrote that around the same time he also said they couldn't get AIDS. The same thing happened with Havok's scar. PRESTO! No more scar.

twbasketcase
06-29-2009, 05:18 PM
Superheroes don't scar, it's canon. Havok had that face scar, gone.
and that's just one example...

Hey, i think it's a pretty crappy excuse too. Blame chuck austen. I believe he is the one who wrote that around the same time he also said they couldn't get AIDS. The same thing happened with Havok's scar. PRESTO! No more scar.

LMFAO and here we are reading a book with Jamie and Layla having permanent scars on their faces.

And lord Chuck Austen logic should never be used as a valid excuse for anything D:

justinkos91
06-29-2009, 05:19 PM
LMFAO and here we are reading a book with Jamie and Layla having permanent scars on their faces.

And lord Chuck Austen logic should never be used as a valid excuse for anything D:

Those are tattoos on their faces, written into their DNA.

SayOcean
06-29-2009, 05:22 PM
Don't be so doubtful, M has enhanced senses, if you saw, she had to cover her ears when Siryn let loose in the hospital.
M may have strength, flight and speed, but it doesn't necessarily make her the automatic winner.
Nobody's perfect...M probably has designer ear plugs

twbasketcase
06-29-2009, 05:27 PM
Those are tattoos on their faces, written into their DNA.

And the scratches in Jamie's chest? lol

Bronze Badger
06-29-2009, 06:17 PM
Please re-evaluate the question you just asked.

What do you mean?

Azure
06-29-2009, 06:18 PM
What do you mean?

Which A-List villain only just appeared in X-Factor this month? I'm just saying!

Bronze Badger
06-29-2009, 06:23 PM
Which A-List villain only just appeared in X-Factor this month? I'm just saying!

One A-Lister in 38 issues? Mr.Maru, X-Cell, Cortex, Arcade, and the Isolationist don't scare anyone. I mean Mr. Tryp was great, but the heroes are only as good as the villians.

Azure
06-29-2009, 06:31 PM
One A-Lister in 38 issues? Mr.Maru, X-Cell, Cortex, Arcade, and the Isolationist don't scare anyone. I mean Mr. Tryp was great, but the heroes are only as good as the villians.

Quicksilver? X-Factor spend more time fighting each other than they ever do fighting villains. It's why people like Arcade were able to pose such a threat: the team can hardly stay on-side for half an issue. That's the fun!

I think, given this, that a good villain for #50 would be Swarm.

twbasketcase
06-29-2009, 06:34 PM
One A-Lister in 38 issues? Mr.Maru, X-Cell, Cortex, Arcade, and the Isolationist don't scare anyone. I mean Mr. Tryp was great, but the heroes are only as good as the villians.

They also faced off with the Astonishing X-Men team in issue #9.

Bronze Badger
06-29-2009, 06:38 PM
Quicksilver? X-Factor spend more time fighting each other than they ever do fighting villains. It's why people like Arcade were able to pose such a threat: the team can hardly stay on-side for half an issue. That's the fun!

I think, given this, that a good villain for #50 would be Swarm.

Quicksilver really didn't do much. I would really like to see X-Factor evolve into a government sanctioned team. (Maybe with members of the Dark X-Men) The cast is too large for the intimate noir type stories that PAD wants to tell. And for the love of God, get rid of Longshot. I wouldn't mind seeing Strong Guy go away either. I used to like him but Rockslide does a better job as the sarcastic muscle and has a better visual and powerset. I would keep the conflict level high (between X-Factor and Val Cooper) while giving them the opportunity to take on bigger threats.

justinkos91
06-29-2009, 06:40 PM
Quicksilver really didn't do much. I would really like to see X-Factor evolve into a government sanctioned team. (Maybe with members of the Dark X-Men) The cast is too large for the intimate noir type stories that PAD wants to tell. And for the love of God, get rid of Longshot. I wouldn't mind seeing Strong Guy go away either. I used to like him but Rockslide does a better job as the sarcastic muscle and has a better visual and powerset. I would keep the conflict level high (between X-Factor and Val Cooper) while giving them the opportunity to take on bigger threats.

More Val Cooper would be better. I love the tension between her and Madrox
Madrox and Val together = Greatness! Move over Layla...

Bronze Badger
06-29-2009, 06:42 PM
They also faced off with the Astonishing X-Men team in issue #9.

A verbal standoff doesn't count.

Michael P
06-29-2009, 06:42 PM
I would really like to see X-Factor evolve into a government sanctioned team.

Been there, done that.

Bronze Badger
06-29-2009, 06:45 PM
Been there, done that.

But it was good. And it distinguished it from being just another X-Book. Comics are all about been there done that.

Prodigy55
06-29-2009, 06:45 PM
I think this book needs some exciting villains like Nimrod, or The Purifiers, or The Facility, or Belasco.

Bronze Badger
06-29-2009, 06:45 PM
I think this book needs some exciting villains like Nimrod, or The Purifiers, or The Facility, or Belasco.

Don't try to seduce me with your X-Force ways.

Prodigy55
06-29-2009, 06:46 PM
Don't try to seduce me with your X-Force ways.

New X-Men. Pay attention.

Bronze Badger
06-29-2009, 06:47 PM
New X-Men. Pay attention.

I'm quite ashamed of myself.

Faded
06-29-2009, 06:49 PM
Been there, done that.

I've been spotty in picking up X-Factor since Stroman arrived, but I thought it was kinda headed toward that?

Anyway, I think more than anything the Nasty Boys and the Hell's Belles should return in X-Factor.

BUT I think all but one of Hell's Belles was depowered, so I guess that's notgood.

But I want to see more colorful and fun and quirky villains like them in addition to the ominous threats and stuff.

Prodigy55
06-29-2009, 06:51 PM
I'm quite ashamed of myself.

Don't be, just list X-Force villains too. Or pretty much any real threat.

Hi-Fi
06-29-2009, 07:04 PM
Anyway, I think more than anything the Nasty Boys and the Hell's Belles should return in X-Factor.
I agree with this. It's been forever since they last appeared.

justinkos91
06-29-2009, 07:06 PM
New X-Men. Pay attention.

It's not like Wind Dancer's gonna join...

AcesX1X
06-29-2009, 07:37 PM
i do really miss the nasty boys.

Somebody
06-29-2009, 07:50 PM
If we're talking about villains from PAD's first run, Rhapsody was on the 198 list, wasn't she?

Victorious
06-29-2009, 07:56 PM
One A-Lister in 38 issues? Mr.Maru, X-Cell, Cortex, Arcade, and the Isolationist don't scare anyone. I mean Mr. Tryp was great, but the heroes are only as good as the villians.

Personally I love X-Factor the way it is. If you like to read about big known villains and big battles you already have X-Force. And don't get me wrong, I love both bookS, but they are two very different type of books and that's great.

X-Factor is more about team dynamics, character developments, real and adults characterizations and conflicts and new villains. X-Factor is the perfect combination of humor, development, action, great dialogues and characterizations. Which is PAD style and he is amazing at it.

X-Force is more about battles, blood, big known villains comebacks, killings and darker missions. Which K&Y are excellent at.

They are two different books, and i'm glad they are and hope they stay that way. So when I want known villians and bloody battles I read X-Force and when I want some good character development and some new villians faces I read X-Factor. Plus, PAD villains are great and originals (not everyone can do that).

Faded
06-29-2009, 08:15 PM
X-Factor is more about team dynamics, character developments, real and adults characterizations and conflicts and new villains. X-Factor is the perfect combination of humor, development, action, great dialogues and characterizations. Which is PAD style and he is amazing at it.

That's true and although I thoroughly enjoyed X-Factor from numbah one to approximately numbah thirty with few if any exceptions, I think it would have been even better if the villains were a bit more fun and a bit more exciting (exception being the awesome Quicksilver character arc and X-Cell because I enjoyed the concept, love Marrow and Blobby, and even Fatale was surprisingly alotta fun).

Joe Franklin
06-29-2009, 08:35 PM
X-Factor is the perfect combination of humor, development, action, great dialogues and characterizations. Which is PAD style and he is amazing at it.


In PAD's 1991 run this would be true.

But in 2009, it's not.:frown:

otipep_90
06-29-2009, 08:43 PM
I have to say that I agree with many of the comments on here about the lack of major villians. I was re-reading Morrison's new x-men last night and what really made those issues shin was the villians. They Canssandra Nova and the U-Men/Sublime really brought out the best in the x-men. Those two brought a overall direction to those issues which help solidify the characterizations/ interactions of the cast. Each issues didn't have to be about Nova or the U-Men but they allowed for sub-plots to be created and interwoven into eachother and propel the over story of the x-men. It had and epic feel and great characterization.

X-Factor had this going on in the beginning, with Tryp and his agency. Those early issues goes to show new villians can be as epic as old favorites like Magneto, Apocalypse, etc. The cast is great, and the characterization/interaction amongst them haven't lost its touch. PAD if you are reading this I love your work but think as readers we need strong villians like Tryp or even the US government/ Hammer that will but x-factor to the test. Oh and I'm glad x-factor is not going to be heavily involved in the up coming x-crossover.

Keep making X-Factor great:biggrin:

orkoni1
06-29-2009, 08:52 PM
Hey PAD!!!

I love X-Force, I only wish that maybe Ruby wasn't so limited with her powers as to how long it takes for them to recharge, maybe if the time depended on how much energy she used at a time, like maybe b/c she has been using her powers more than she had before it take 90 secs for them to recharge. I don't know.

I love you for introducing Ruby, I love her. as you can tell from my sig.

No, Im not obsessed :smile: LOL

nightw1ng
06-29-2009, 08:56 PM
while i enjoy x-factor and the character interactions, i feel like the pacing has become way too slow, to the detriment of the dramatic tension and a sense of urgency.

orkoni1
06-29-2009, 09:26 PM
while i enjoy x-factor and the character interactions, i feel like the pacing has become way too slow, to the detriment of the dramatic tension and a sense of urgency.

B/c it has been spread into 4 stories (Syrin n Val, Guido n Rictor, Monet n Darwin and finally Jamie n Layla in the future w Ruby n Scott), but I think that nxt issue as we saw in those previews Syrin will join Monet n Darwin, then I believe they will be joining GuidoRictor n Shatterstar. Then I believe PAD will have the two major story lines, then One. IMO

twbasketcase
06-29-2009, 09:35 PM
I am in the minority. I personally enjoy the original villains.

Perfection/Emma 2
06-29-2009, 10:07 PM
I pray I get this book when it comes out two weeks from now and I hope X-Factor starts being affected by Dark Reign soon or get's a new member on their team besides Shatterstar

Waterlily
06-29-2009, 10:19 PM
I just ... can't ...! I'm sorry! lol

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/15/Ruby_Summers.jpg/285px-Ruby_Summers.jpg http://makingcentsintexas.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/kool-aid.jpg

See, this comparison makes me think she would taste delicious and, thus, it makes me like her. Plus, it's funny.

thawrecka
06-30-2009, 02:21 AM
I love X-Factor but they would be completely outmatched by any competent major villians.

Bolebeau
06-30-2009, 02:28 AM
Preview's looking good, I am definitely loving the current artist. Can't wait to see how things go down between M and Syrin.

Hey PAD!!!

I love X-Force

*cough*

worstblogever
06-30-2009, 02:35 AM
See, this comparison makes me think she would taste delicious and, thus, it makes me like her. Plus, it's funny.

Totally. I wish more women would taste like Kool Aid flavors when I go down on them.


OH YEAH!

justinkos91
06-30-2009, 03:07 AM
Totally. I wish more women would taste like Kool Aid flavors when I go down on them.

Do you think Ruby is Tropical Punch or Cherry?
EDIT: Nevermind, the answer's obvious

worstblogever
06-30-2009, 03:12 AM
Do you think Ruby is Tropical Punch or Cherry?
EDIT: Nevermind, the answer's obvious

At her age? I doubt Cherry.

Michael P
06-30-2009, 07:44 AM
But it was good.

And so is this. Just in a different way.

And it distinguished it from being just another X-Book.

See above.

Comics are all about been there done that.

Jesus Christ, you couldn't have said something more wrong if you'd announced the sky was neon orange.

Pugfugly
06-30-2009, 08:27 AM
In response to X-Factor's current "stagnancy" and lack of super villains.

While i'm enjoying the current story arc, I must admit that i'm developing a bit of future fatigue. Just recently three of the X-Books (Factor, Force, and Wolverine) were dabbling with three different possible futures. For a while it seemed like future stories were the heir apparent to the zombie and monkey craze of the last few years. I sorely hope that Maddrox and Layla can travel back soon and get back to the roots of the team.

On that note, the "team" is not a team, they're a business. They shouldn't have to fight super villains because they're no longer super heroes. However, it seems more and more apparent that certain members of the team prefer the more proactive approach and don't fit the detective mold. Maybe we'll see this play out with Siryn forming her own team under Val's supervision, while Jamie struggles to hold onto what very little he has left.

I realize that as of late the book's big ideas have been primarily sales driven. In the current Marvel economy it seems like anything without the words Dark, Reign, Bendis, Loeb, or any combination of them on the cover are on the bubble. Hopefully people wouldn't abandon a quality book such as X-Factor if it were to take a step back, abandon crazy plot points and focus back on their original mission; protecting and finding justice for the dwindling mutant population. For a price, of course.

Pugfugly
06-30-2009, 08:40 AM
Maybe we'll see this play out with Siryn forming her own team under Val's supervision, while Jamie struggles to hold onto what very little he has left.

I just realized that i'm basically pitching a Dark X-Factor, something that a Bendis or Loeb would gobble up. *Hanging head in shame*

Quinnhop
06-30-2009, 11:16 AM
At her age? I doubt Cherry.

I love you.

otipep_90
06-30-2009, 12:42 PM
In response to X-Factor's current "stagnancy" and lack of super villains.

While i'm enjoying the current story arc, I must admit that i'm developing a bit of future fatigue. Just recently three of the X-Books (Factor, Force, and Wolverine) were dabbling with three different possible futures. For a while it seemed like future stories were the heir apparent to the zombie and monkey craze of the last few years. I sorely hope that Maddrox and Layla can travel back soon and get back to the roots of the team.

On that note, the "team" is not a team, they're a business. They shouldn't have to fight super villains because they're no longer super heroes. However, it seems more and more apparent that certain members of the team prefer the more proactive approach and don't fit the detective mold. Maybe we'll see this play out with Siryn forming her own team under Val's supervision, while Jamie struggles to hold onto what very little he has left.

I realize that as of late the book's big ideas have been primarily sales driven. In the current Marvel economy it seems like anything without the words Dark, Reign, Bendis, Loeb, or any combination of them on the cover are on the bubble. Hopefully people wouldn't abandon a quality book such as X-Factor if it were to take a step back, abandon crazy plot points and focus back on their original mission; protecting and finding justice for the dwindling mutant population. For a price, of course.

Pugfugly, I too hope sales would not fall down if the book went back to their original mission, because its now more relevant then before, with porposition x and Hammer in control. You can never trust a villian even if they spout peacefull co-existence. This is no to say that Osborn should be the main villian to X-Factor or anything, but definitely the government is a large antaginist, send all sorts of traps and pplz after them. Ms. Copper can definitely fit that roll and she has but I want to see her get her hands dirty.

Also if the book where to go back to its original mission then the quality would surely go up, its the what made the book such a fit. Damn events they can just ruin books.