RicStar: Add two more names to the list of gay superheroes

[Puunk]

Full article here (http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2009/06/add-two-more-names-to-the-list-of-gay-superheroes/), on CBR's Robot 6.

What do you think? Most fans seem to be glad - but do you think people are actually jumping to the conclusion fast?

[Flâneur]

Rictor isn't gay, though.

[ZNOP]

Rictor isn't gay, though.

It's kind of hard to draw any other conclusion based on that pic/scan... It seems that -- what was highly rumored for years will now become cannon.

[Flâneur]

It's kind of hard to draw any other conclusion based on that pic/scan... It seems that -- what was highly rumored for years will now become cannon.

LOL

Don't be so dim. He's bisexual. It's rather insulting to just label him gay, just because he's bisexual, bisexuals suffer enough discrimination from both straights and other queers who often see them as dirty, pretenders or whores.

[ZNOP]

LOL

Don't be so dim. He's bisexual. It's rather insulting to just label him gay, just because he's bisexual, bisexuals suffer enough discrimination from both straights and other queers who often see them as dirty, pretenders or whores.

:redface: Thanks, I stand corrected.

[tetragene]

LOL

Don't be so dim. He's bisexual. It's rather insulting to just label him gay, just because he's bisexual, bisexuals suffer enough discrimination from both straights and other queers who often see them as dirty, pretenders or whores.

hey, if the shoe fits...

I kid :tongue:

I think this is a cool development/revealtion if it is actually what everyone is assuming it will be. I wouldn't hold my breath just yet, but it would be cool. And as much as I loathe the whole "Dazzler is Shatterstar's mom" crap it at least makes perfect logical sense for Dazz's hoo-ha to spit out a queen :tongue:

[Chief Jon]

LOL

Don't be so dim. He's bisexual. It's rather insulting to just label him gay, just because he's bisexual, bisexuals suffer enough discrimination from both straights and other queers who often see them as dirty, pretenders or whores.

It's true. My wife had to put up with a lot of BS and hate from her local queer community when she was younger and tried to be more involved with queer issues as a bisexual.

[Puunk]

LOL

Don't be so dim. He's bisexual. It's rather insulting to just label him gay, just because he's bisexual, bisexuals suffer enough discrimination from both straights and other queers who often see them as dirty, pretenders or whores.

Dude .. you totally understood my teenage life. :biggrin: Heh.

But I understand. I do think people are actually jumping to conclusions right now - I do want a RicStar to exist, but I think we should just wait until the next issue for more info.

[Grapeweasel]

Rictor isn't gay, though.

Actually I was going to point out he's not a superhero....

[Seikun21]

Who is that in your avatar Puunk?
Pro X?
Some other bald dude?

It's Wolverine's bisexual son Daken.

[twbasketcase]

I saw some interesting arguments about this going down on PAD's blog, and I'm quite certain we'll be seeing a relationship after reading that.

Interesting article! And thank you, CBR, for referencing/quoting my site. :biggrin:

[Puunk]

Who is that in your avatar Puunk?
Pro X?
Some other bald dude?

As mentioned ^, it's Daken, Wolverine's bisexual son. Or so we presume. But it's obvious he's bisexual.

I saw some interesting arguments about this going down on PAD's blog, and I'm quite certain we'll be seeing a relationship after reading that.

Interesting article! And thank you, CBR, for referencing/quoting my site. :biggrin:

Finally, something in-topic x). Your site is (http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2009/06/add-two-more-names-to-the-list-of-gay-superheroes/) referenced? I am hoping something happens with the duo.

[NewMutant]

Why do people think Daken is bi?

[Puunk]

Why do people think Daken is bi?

In Dark Wolverine #75, a man is asked where and who he was with that night. Daken walks by and smirks a cocky smirk and walks off. The man (pitifully) lies and tells the people questioning him he was alone, due to fear of getting caught.

That was one of the reasons people think Daken's bi, though I only think he's bi because ... well, I want him to be LOL! x)

[Hi-Fi]

Why do people think Daken is bi?
Because he is attracted by both men and women.


From PAD's blog:

And no, it’s not a fake out. A number of people seem to be concerned that Star is still under Cortex’s control. Or that Rictor is going to freak out the next panel and say, “Dude, what the hell?”

That would be cheap. I don’t do cheap. Okay, sometimes I do, but not this time. I’m not interested in having people say, “Peter David introduced this and then chickened out.”

[Puunk]

Because he is attracted by both men and women.


From PAD's blog:

:O
Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[twbasketcase]

Finally, something in-topic x). Your site is (http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2009/06/add-two-more-names-to-the-list-of-gay-superheroes/) referenced? I am hoping something happens with the duo.

Yup, Shattering the Earth (http://www.shatteringtheearth.com). :)

[twbasketcase]

Also, I have to say that I'm very impressed with PAD's blog thing. What he revealed just got me a million times more excited for the next issues.

total win

[Puunk]

Yup, Shattering the Earth (http://www.shatteringtheearth.com). :)

That's your site? Add it to your signature! I would have hit it up long ago! Awh .. mann .. your honestly the coolest. :biggrin: I'm gushing over it.

Also, I have to say that I'm very impressed with PAD's blog thing. What he revealed just got me a million times more excited for the next issues.

total win

Yes!

[coconutphone]

Because he is attracted by both men and women.

LOL

You're literal. I like that.

[twbasketcase]

That's your site? Add it to your signature! I would have hit it up long ago! Awh .. mann .. your honestly the coolest. :biggrin: I'm gushing over it.

HEE. Aw :redface:

I will add it to my sig! I'm new and figuring this stuff out still. XD But hey, I'm glad you like it! And that it is finally actually relevant to something going on in current continuity.

X-Factor is my happy place right now. :smile:

[Monty_Cristo]

Shortpack
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/8134/183435-51900-shortpack_super.jpg

[Quinnhop]

Full article here (http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2009/06/add-two-more-names-to-the-list-of-gay-superheroes/), on CBR's Robot 6.

What do you think? Most fans seem to be glad - but do you think people are actually jumping to the conclusion fast?

lol

I like that they got the image from a gay porn blog.

<3

[Sighphi]

In Dark Wolverine #75, a man is asked where and who he was with that night. Daken walks by and smirks a cocky smirk and walks off. The man (pitifully) lies and tells the people questioning him he was alone, due to fear of getting caught.

That was one of the reasons people think Daken's bi, though I only think he's bi because ... well, I want him to be LOL! x)

No. Daken used his pheromones to mess with the guy to get some files. That doesnt make him gay.

And how is Shatterstar gay? He was genetically engineered, why would some one genetically engineer a gay soldier! That doesnt make sense!

[twbasketcase]

And how is Shatterstar gay? He was genetically engineered, why would some one genetically engineer a gay soldier! That doesnt make sense!

Shatterstar stated that he and his fellow slaves were created to fully assimilate human behaviour. The action, but not the feelings. He learned of his feelings on Earth while spending time with Rictor. It wasn't a matter of him being built to be gay, but rather discovering that about himself... which actually makes a lot of sense, really. There are a lot of gay/bi people that don't realize that part of themselves until later on in life.

You also have to keep in mind that Shatterstar is from 100 years in the future. I'm willing to bet by then that sexual preferences aren't that big of a deal anyways.

[RoguefanAM]

No. Daken used his pheromones to mess with the guy to get some files. That doesnt make him gay.

And how is Shatterstar gay? He was genetically engineered, why would some one genetically engineer a gay soldier! That doesnt make sense!

You're right. It makes him a bisexual willing to use sex to get what he wants.

Maybe the people who genetically engineered him didn't care what sexual orientation they put, or who even says they messed with that part of his genetics anyway (or knew how)? Regardless, we have things as ridiculous as androids and robots falling in love - a gay genetically engineered soldier should hardly seem out there in comparison.

[Sighphi]

Shatterstar stated that he and his fellow slaves were created to fully assimilate human behaviour. The action, but not the feelings. He learned of his feelings on Earth while spending time with Rictor. It wasn't a matter of him being built to be gay, but rather discovering that about himself... which actually makes a lot of sense, really. There are a lot of gay/bi people that don't realize that part of themselves until later on in life.

You also have to keep in mind that Shatterstar is from 100 years in the future. I'm willing to bet by then that sexual preferences aren't that big of a deal anyways.

Oh right i forgot. SS didnt have feeling and stuff.
That makes sense.

[twbasketcase]

You're right. It makes him a bisexual willing to use sex to get what he wants.

Maybe the people who genetically engineered him didn't care what sexual orientation they put, or who even says they messed with that part of his genetics anyway (or knew how)? Regardless, we have things as ridiculous as androids and robots falling in love - a gay genetically engineered soldier should hardly seem out there in comparison.

We can also keep in mind the fact that Spiral said Shatterstar is technically half human/half Arize-spawn. So if he was born from two parents, and not 'built' like he orginally thought, then his sexuality would be just as natural as any other human who was conceived.

[Puunk]

No. Daken used his pheromones to mess with the guy to get some files. That doesnt make him gay.


I said bisexual. Bisexual, not gay.

[Puunk]

lol

I like that they got the image from a gay porn blog.

<3

LOLOL I didn't even realize xD

[Sighphi]

I said bisexual. Bisexual, not gay.

The point is that we dont know there was any sort of sexual encounter.
All we know is that Daken USED his pheromone powers because he was explaining them as he was walking by. Hell, he could've used them on the guy as he passed by.

[RoguefanAM]

The point is that we dont know there was any sort of sexual encounter.
All we know is that Daken USED his pheromone powers because he was explaining them as he was walking by. Hell, he could've used them on the guy as he passed by.

Then why is the guy all flustered and not willing to tell the cops who is with and what he was doing? That's what the cops were questioning him about.

If it wasn't sexual, I don't see what he has to be embarrassed about.

Plus, it's not just that scene. There's another one where Daken is seen with a guy (killing him) and the man's half-naked. The commentary in that scene leads us to believe it was also sexual.

...But, wouldn't all this talk be better suited in the Wolverine thread?

[Puunk]

Then why is the guy all flustered and not willing to tell the cops who is with and what he was doing? That's what the cops were questioning him about.

If it wasn't sexual, I don't see what he has to be embarrassed about.

Plus, it's not just that scene. There's another one where Daken is seen with a guy (killing him) and the man's half-naked. The commentary in that scene leads us to believe it was also sexual.

...But, wouldn't all this talk be better suited in the Wolverine thread?

And where he was last night.

Daken totally seems like the type of person who'll have sex with anyone. Which scene were you referring to? The other scene, I mean.

[Hi-Fi]

The point is that we dont know there was any sort of sexual encounter.
All we know is that Daken USED his pheromone powers because he was explaining them as he was walking by. Hell, he could've used them on the guy as he passed by.
You need everything to be spelled to you in order to understand? I'd love to punch you in the face with a Daken/random guy sex scene printed so that you'd get the intention behind the writing, but super-heroes comics hardly have any sex scenes on panel.

[RoguefanAM]

And where he was last night.

Daken totally seems like the type of person who'll have sex with anyone. Which scene were you referring to? The other scene, I mean.

I don't have it, but I'm sure it's in the Wolverine thread somewhere. Or someone who has it on hand (file) could be kind enough to post again...? *waits*

[eurazn]

You need everything to be spelled to you in order to understand? I'd love to punch you in the face with a Daken/random guy sex scene printed so that you'd get the intention behind the writing, but super-heroes comics hardly have any sex scenes on panel.

Just because Emma showed Scott her new underwear while they were both half-naked in the bedroom doesn't REALLY mean they had sex, either. I demand to see thrusting on panel as PROOF.

[Hi-Fi]

Just because Emma showed Scott her new underwear while they were both half-naked in the bedroom doesn't REALLY mean they had sex, either. I demand to see thrusting on panel as PROOF.
If I don't see penetration, it didn't happen!

[Sighphi]

Then why is the guy all flustered and not willing to tell the cops who is with and what he was doing? That's what the cops were questioning him about.

If it wasn't sexual, I don't see what he has to be embarrassed about.

Plus, it's not just that scene. There's another one where Daken is seen with a guy (killing him) and the man's half-naked. The commentary in that scene leads us to believe it was also sexual.

...But, wouldn't all this talk be better suited in the Wolverine thread?

If it was sexual why would he be embarrassed?
the dude just had sex with WOLVERINE!

Hell, it's Daken for god's sake, he could've simply said that if he said anything his head gets chopped off.

[RoguefanAM]

Nevermind, found the scene!

http://media.photobucket.com/image/daken%20bisexual/surrealmonkey_wedding/worstblogever/bidaken.jpg

credit to worstblogever (sorry, it was the first thing I found on google!).

Really, there are very few ways you can misinterpret this...

[Hi-Fi]

If it was sexual why would he be embarrassed?
the dude just had sex with WOLVERINE!

Hell, it's Daken for god's sake, he could've simply said if you say anything i chop your head off.
He was embarrassed because he had a wife and kids.

[Puunk]

Nevermind, found the scene!

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa262/surrealmonkey_wedding/worstblogever/bidaken.jpg

Your amazing! Thanks, Roguefan!

Daken's awesome ...

[Faded]

If I don't see penetration, it didn't happen!

That line didn't work eight-and-a-half months ago, and its not going to work in this thread, Hi-Fi.

He was embarrassed because he had a wife and kids.

And he got used.

[Sighphi]

He was embarrassed because he had a wife and kids.

What does begging for his job have to do with anything sexual?
He also says he bought an apartment..... so what?

[Faded]

lol

I like that they got the image from a gay porn blog.

<3

Wasn't it good? :biggrin:

[samhalliwell]

I'd really appreciate more RicStar, and PAD just confirmed it so I'm happy.

Continue digging on Hi-Fi's sex life. That's, like, the fun part of being in CBR forums :biggrin:

[Naela]

Nevermind, found the scene!

http://media.photobucket.com/image/daken%20bisexual/surrealmonkey_wedding/worstblogever/bidaken.jpg

credit to worstblogever (sorry, it was the first thing I found on google!).

Really, there are very few ways you can misinterpret this...

Holy crap where is this from?

[samhalliwell]

Holy crap where is this from?

Wolverine: Origins 11-15, I think.

[Monty_Cristo]

No. Daken used his pheromones to mess with the guy to get some files. That doesnt make him gay.

And how is Shatterstar gay? He was genetically engineered, why would some one genetically engineer a gay soldier! That doesnt make sense!

sure it does. imagine how much harder a gladiator would fight if they were attracted to their fellow gladiators. to put it in perspective, imagine if you were put into a situation where you had to protect not only yourself but a girl you're attracted to. plus, the guy who genetically engineered them very well might have been gay.

[Flâneur]

If it was sexual why would he be embarrassed?
the dude just had sex with WOLVERINE!

Hell, it's Daken for god's sake, he could've simply said that if he said anything his head gets chopped off.

If you have such an issue with how things are then prove irrevocably that the character is completely hetero. Until then, stop bitching.

[ChaZ X]

sure it does. imagine how much harder a gladiator would fight if they were attracted to their fellow gladiators. to put it in perspective, imagine if you were put into a situation where you had to protect not only yourself but a girl you're attracted to. plus, the guy who genetically engineered them very well might have been gay.

Historically the Spartan Culture used this type of model for thier society. The Men had sex with pleasure with other men, the women with the women, and generally only had straight sex to make babies. At least I think I'm remembering that right

Although the Gladiator thing doesn't work because they all eventually would have to fight each other

[Mr. Earl Brooks]

Isn't Rictor bi-sexual? Or is that the same thing?

[twbasketcase]

Isn't Rictor bi-sexual? Or is that the same thing?

It is not the same thing, but it is still often grouped together in the LGBT category.

[ReturnOfTheComeback]

plus, the guy who genetically engineered them very well might have been gay.

http://www.catskillcomics.com/fleming/mojo2.jpg

THAT DOES MAKE SENSE.

[Waterlily]

No. Daken used his pheromones to mess with the guy to get some files. That doesnt make him gay.

And how is Shatterstar gay? He was genetically engineered, why would some one genetically engineer a gay soldier! That doesnt make sense!

Why would someone genetically engineer a straight soldier.

The point is that we dont know there was any sort of sexual encounter.
All we know is that Daken USED his pheromone powers because he was explaining them as he was walking by. Hell, he could've used them on the guy as he passed by.

He was using them on Barry as he walked by. He also was pheromones when he seduced him.

If it was sexual why would he be embarrassed?
the dude just had sex with WOLVERINE!

Hell, it's Daken for god's sake, he could've simply said that if he said anything his head gets chopped off.

Yes, he could've, but that is very boring. Daken also could've simply mugged the guy in #11, but he seduced him instead.

He was embarrassed because he had a wife and kids.

What does begging for his job have to do with anything sexual?
He also says he bought an apartment..... so what?

http://www.comicbookresources.com/assets/images/preview/2876/prv2876_pg7.jpg

http://www.comicbookresources.com/assets/images/preview/2876/prv2876_pg8.jpg

"Were you with anyone last night?"

So you think Barry went and had pizza and beer with Daken. While Barry wasn't looking Daken stole his security card. That's very unexciting.

[coconutphone]

Wow after seeing it for myself how can anyone NOT get what that means?

Seriously.

[Phoenix_Force]

RicStar FTW!!!!!!

The one thing I've ever contributed to this board. Yay me.

[Dagger]

What does begging for his job have to do with anything sexual?
He also says he bought an apartment..... so what?
It must be nice living like you do...
http://buelahman.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/blinders.jpg

[Disco Jess Minge]

Maybe Sighphi was saying that he didn't think Dakken should be a gay superhero. He's more like a gay supervillain.:tongue:

[Slung]

If it was sexual why would he be embarrassed?
the dude just had sex with WOLVERINE!

Hell, it's Daken for god's sake, he could've simply said that if he said anything his head gets chopped off.

He wasn't embarrassed - he was terrified of having his secret sexual romp with a dude exposed and losing his family to scandal.

[Sighphi]

If you have such an issue with how things are then prove irrevocably that the character is completely hetero. Until then, stop bitching.

You dont have prove that he isnt.
He has a power that lets him control the way people feel, just because he uses them on both male and female doesnt make him immediately anything.

[Puunk]

If it was sexual why would he be embarrassed?
the dude just had sex with WOLVERINE!

Hell, it's Daken for god's sake, he could've simply said that if he said anything his head gets chopped off.

Clinton and Lewinsky.

[Slung]

You dont have prove that he isnt.
He has a power that lets him control the way people feel, just because he uses them on both male and female doesnt make him immediately anything.

The fact that he had sex with Barry should be enough.

They way the writer juxtaposed the words "[Norman] can rub anything he wants in my face. I'll take it with a smile" with Barry manhandled about who he was with the night before, makes it more than obvious that Daken and Barry had a sexual encounter.

The writer revealed Barry has a family, that he is afraid to say who he was with the night before and then makes us realize he was with Daken through the brilliant art. Its pretty basic reading to connect the dots.

[Sighphi]

"Were you with anyone last night?"

So you think Barry went and had pizza and beer with Daken. While Barry wasn't looking Daken stole his security card. That's very unexciting.

So that means that just about every investigation on the face of this planet involves sexual conduct because that is a standard question to ask. If you DIDNT do the actions in question then some one else must've so who else was with you that could've gotten you involve in this?

I mean.... this in every cop/detective show on TV as well, man.

[Sighphi]

The fact that he had sex with Barry should be enough.

They way the writer juxtaposed the words "[Norman] can rub anything he wants in my face. I'll take it with a smile" with Barry manhandled about who he was with the night before, makes it more than obvious that Daken and Barry had a sexual encounter.

The writer revealed Barry has a family, that he is afraid to say who he was with the night before and then makes us realize he was with Daken through the brilliant art. Its pretty basic reading to connect the dots.

You are picking and choose what evidence to bring forth just like i am.
So in the end the only conclusion is that no one is right and this question is still left up in there air.

[Slung]

So that means that just about every investigation on the face of this planet involves sexual conduct because that is a standard question to ask. If you DIDNT do the actions in question then some one else must've so who else was with you that could've gotten you involve in this?


What do you not get? Barry was asked "who were you with?" Barry looked at Daken all scared and Daken smiles deviously. Barry suddenly realizes that if he says he was having sex with Daken he will lose his family and his reputation (not to mention a gay guy married to a woman has some extreme internal homophobia) so instead of coming out and losing his family and friends, he decides to take the blame for something he didn't do. Its all right there in the story.

[Seres]

So you think Barry went and had pizza and beer with Daken. While Barry wasn't looking Daken stole his security card. That's very unexciting.

If we ever had a beer and pizza together, Waterlily, it would be very exciting.

[Agent_Torpor]

So you think Barry went and had pizza and beer with Daken. While Barry wasn't looking Daken stole his security card. That's very unexciting.

Barry played powerbottom that night to a grunting Daken.

[Slung]

You are picking and choose what evidence to bring forth just like i am.
So in the end the only conclusion is that no one is right and this question is still left up in there air.

There is no question as to the author's intent. I'm not picking and choosing any evidence. There is only what is right there on the page. I'm not really sure why you are having so much difficulty with this. It seems really really obvious just from those two scans on this page.

[Waterlily]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2566/3675224693_bdecf30405_b.jpg

"And I saw you kiss him!"

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2562/3675224987_070344f878_b.jpg

"...I had my way with him."

If you kissed a guy to lure him to a seedy motel there is a good chance that you might be, you know, into guys. There were other, less sexual ways Daken could've gotten himself a passport + tricking the girl into killing herself.

[Slung]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2566/3675224693_bdecf30405_b.jpg

"And I saw you kiss him!"

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2562/3675224987_070344f878_b.jpg

"...I had my way with him."

If you kissed a guy to lure him to a seedy motel there is a good chance that you might be, you know, into guys. There were other, less sexual ways Daken could've gotten himself a passport + tricking the girl into killing herself.

And the nail polish. Don't forget the nail polish.

[Agent_Torpor]

And the nail polish. Don't forget the nail polish.

On second thought, Daken may be the powerbottom.

[Waterlily]

So that means that just about every investigation on the face of this planet involves sexual conduct because that is a standard question to ask. If you DIDNT do the actions in question then some one else must've so who else was with you that could've gotten you involve in this?

I mean.... this in every cop/detective show on TV as well, man.

I like how you didn't answer my question. If you don't think Daken seduced Barry, then what do you think they did together?

If we ever had a beer and pizza together, Waterlily, it would be very exciting.

Oh absolutely. I would probably burst from happiness, as well.

Barry played powerbottom that night to a grunting Daken.

Thank you, that's much better.

ps: I miss the nailpolish. Camuncoli + Marte Gracia with SotoColor's A Street needs to bring them back.

[Sighphi]

What do you not get? Barry was asked "who were you with?" Barry looked at Daken all scared and Daken smiles deviously. Barry suddenly realizes that if he says he was having sex with Daken he will lose his family and his reputation (not to mention a gay guy married to a woman has some extreme internal homophobia) so instead of coming out and losing his family and friends, he decides to take the blame for something he didn't do. Its all right there in the story.

What do you not get that nothing like that is implied outside of your head?
Because he was with some one that equals sex? Two people can't be with each other without having sex?

[Puunk]

On second thought, Daken may be the powerbottom.

LOLOL I LOVE YOU AHAHAH ohmg xD

[Seres]

Oh absolutely. I would probably burst from happiness, as well.

Which of us would be the 'powerbottom'? And what is a 'powerbottom'?

WHY ISN'T THIS THREAD APPRECIATING KARMA.

[Puunk]

WHY ISN'T THIS THREAD APPRECIATING KARMA.

LMAO! AHAHA ohmg so random LOLOL

[Sighphi]

I like how you didn't answer my question. If you don't think Daken seduced Barry, then what do you think they did together?


I like how you are ignoring my answer.
One more time, one of the security people asks the guy who were you with BECAUSE he is denying doing anything. So asking that and apparently at some point actually coming in contact with Daken means sex exactly how?

[Slung]

What do you not get that nothing like that is implied outside of your head?
Because he was with some one that equals sex? Two people can't be with each other without having sex?

Let me try again:

1) Scene begins with an extremely homoerotic narrative box about rubbing things in faces and taking it with a smile.

2) Barry cries about how he has a wife and kids. "I didn't do anything! WAAHH!"

3) Good cop/Bad cop "Who were you with, Barry!"

4) Barry sees a smirking Daken "No one, I did it all - I take the blame!"

5) More Daken narrative boxes about being able to control emotions and making people's bodies follow through. We see a crushed Barry in the background.

Sure, it doesn't hit you over-the-head and show Daken having sex with Barry in a flashback - but logical the only reason Barry takes the blame is to save himself the shame of admitting to having sex with a dude. Why else does he admit to something he didn't do? Why else does the author let us find out that he has a family and a new apartment (if he loses his job he'll lose the new place - but then he admits to the crime!). How do you not see this?

[Waterlily]

Which of us would be the 'powerbottom'? And what is a 'powerbottom'?

WHY ISN'T THIS THREAD APPRECIATING KARMA.

I normally take the bottom, but for you I would be a top. We could take turns.

jarrod can be the gimp.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/8669/214800-125069-karma_super.jpg

Karma ♥

[Sighphi]

There is no question as to the author's intent. I'm not picking and choosing any evidence. There is only what is right there on the page. I'm not really sure why you are having so much difficulty with this. It seems really really obvious just from those two scans on this page.

You are since you mention his family but ignore what other things he mentions he is worrying about loosing, you are placing the emphasis solely on what you want to prove your theory.

Is as clear as day, man.

[Seres]

LMAO! AHAHA ohmg so random LOLOL

There's more to homosexuality than boys! Karma is better than any other gay or bi character you can think of. So is Polaris. Lesbian Pride.

I normally take the bottom, but for you I would be a top. We could take turns.

jarrod can be the gimp.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/8669/214800-125069-karma_super.jpg

Karma ♥

*faints*

[Waterlily]

Let me try again:

1) Scene begins with an extremely homoerotic narrative box about rubbing things in faces and taking it with a smile.

2) Barry cries about how he has a wife and kids. "I didn't do anything! WAAHH!"

3) Good cop/Bad cop "Who were you with, Barry!"

4) Barry sees a smirking Daken "No one, I did it all - I take the blame!"

5) More Daken narrative boxes about being able to control emotions and making people's bodies follow through. We see a crushed Barry in the background.

Sure, it doesn't hit you over-the-head and show Daken having sex with Barry in a flashback - but logical the only reason Barry takes the blame is to save himself the shame of admitting to having sex with a dude. Why else does he admit to something he didn't do? Why else does the author let us find out that he has a family and a new apartment (if he loses his job he'll lose the new place - but then he admits to the crime!). How do you not see this?

He does get it. He's trolling us but I'm going with it because I have an excuse to post fun pictures.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2471/3582777624_94fe9d95c2_o.jpg

[Dagger]

Which of us would be the 'powerbottom'? And what is a 'powerbottom'?
Me.
WHY ISN'T THIS THREAD APPRECIATING KARMA.
That's what I'm saying!!!

[widdershins]

Sighphi maintained that Lockjaw was always meant to be a mutated inhuman, because Lee and Kirby never outright stated he was a dog. When someone posted the very panel in which he was introduced, in which he was licking Crystal in the face like there's no tomorrow, he still argued that it could be the way inhumans do formal greetings.

Just to say that this can go on forever with very slim chances of a satisfying solution for the parties involved.

[darknessatnoon]

He does get it. He's trolling us but I'm going with it because I have an excuse to post fun pictures.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2471/3582777624_94fe9d95c2_o.jpg

Sigphi is obviously a couple of frat guys with half a brain between each of them.

[tetragene]

How do you not see this?

Apparently he thinks its a logical and plausible leap for a guy to risk his job and jail for nothing more than pizza and a beer with a 'buddy' ...and that the narrative boxes about controlling emotions (and bodies) means he controlled the man's arm to reach in his own wallet and pay for the pizza and beer, thus sparing Daken from any expenses

Denial is also a river in Egypt, allegedly

[Slung]

You are since you mention his family but ignore what other things he mentions he is worrying about loosing, you are placing the emphasis solely on what you want to prove your theory.

Is as clear as day, man.

Dude, are you just joking around? He talks about his family and his new apartment? What else does he mention? I have no idea what you are talking about at this point. I don't have a theory. I have what the story lays out in a very straightforward manner.

Please explain for me why Barry admits to something he didn't do? Why?

What do you think he was doing with Daken last night that he is willing to lose his job (and his new apartment) over?

[Puunk]

{image}

LOLOL AHAH nice x)

[psycwave]

Shatterstar is gay
Rictor is Bi
Greymalkin is gay
Northstar is gay
Anole is gay
Mystique is bi
Daken is Bi
Karma is gay
Gypsy moth is gay.
Iceman is bi-curious

[Seres]

Me.

That's what I'm saying!!!

Ew! Boys. Karma could POSSESS DAKEN AND MAKE HIM A LESBIAN.

Karma is the best.

[Puunk]

Shatterstar is gay
Rictor is Bi
Greymalkin is gay
Northstar is gay
Anole is gay
Mystique is bi
Daken is Bi
Karma is gay
Gypsy moth is gay.
Iceman is bi-curious

Bling!? ???

[Slung]

He does get it. He's trolling us but I'm going with it because I have an excuse to post fun pictures.


You think? Maybe he's just really young and these sorts of subtle storylines are too advanced for him? I sometimes forget that we can have kids on these boards.

[Dagger]

Ew! Boys. Karma could POSSESS DAKEN AND MAKE HIM A LESBIAN.

Karma is the best.
We should make some gay babies together. They'll have my fashion sense and your awesome ability to handle power tools.

[Puunk]

We should make some gay babies together. They'll have my fashion sense and your awesome ability to handle power tools.

Can I be integrated into this family?

[Seres]

We should make some gay babies together. They'll have my fashion sense and your awesome ability to handle power tools.

You wanna date me, get naked.

Can I be integrated into this family?

Maybe. What are you?

[psycwave]

Bling!? ???

Oh yeah.
Bling! is gay.


Karma should hook up with Gypsy Moth or Skein or whatever she is calling herself.

[Slung]

Maybe. What are you?

He is an omnisexual inter-sexed individual. Very progressive!

[Dagger]

Can I be integrated into this family?
Yum! Wait, what's your stats? I'm a GWM 5'10" 185 lbs. blah blah blah. lol
You wanna date me, get naked.



Maybe. What are you?
Baby, I've been naked for a while.

[Sighphi]

Sighphi maintained that Lockjaw was always meant to be a mutated inhuman, because Lee and Kirby never outright stated he was a dog. When someone posted the very panel in which he was introduced, in which he was licking Crystal in the face like there's no tomorrow, he still argued that it could be the way inhumans do formal greetings.

Just to say that this can go on forever with very slim chances of a satisfying solution for the parties involved.

Yes, i also said that I am an inner space alien that came to earth to slowing defeat it by posting in comic book board, right?

[Puunk]

Maybe. What are you?
He is an omnisexual inter-sexed individual. Very progressive!

LOL! Heh, what Slung said! x)

Yum! Wait, what's your stats? I'm a GWM 5'10" 185 lbs. blah blah blah. lol

LOL your just like me! 'Cept I'm a little less than 6.

Baby, I've been naked for a while.

You honestly have no idea how loudly I laughed when I saw that LOLOLOL

[Seres]

He is an omnisexual inter-sexed individual. Very progressive!

I need girls. If I wanted omnisexual masochist robots, I'd call up timbox (I have timbox's phone number)

Baby, I've been naked for a while.

You're just like Hi-Fi, aren't you? You can't seduce me, MALE.

[Excelsior]

LOL

Don't be so dim. He's bisexual. It's rather insulting to just label him gay, just because he's bisexual, bisexuals suffer enough discrimination from both straights and other queers who often see them as dirty, pretenders or whores.


[mock snark] If its good for Storm.


Hell, he should get the same treatment. [/mock snark]

[Waterlily]

I like how you are ignoring my answer.
One more time, one of the security people asks the guy who were you with BECAUSE he is denying doing anything. So asking that and apparently at some point actually coming in contact with Daken means sex exactly how?

Yes, when you've had sex with someone and you're asked, "Who were you with?" it means you've had sex with someone and someone is being nosy. That's my answer.

Now, if you're caught kissing a guy are you or are you not in fact kissing a guy? And when a guy kisses another guy, isn't that a little not on the heterosexual path?

Sighphi maintained that Lockjaw was always meant to be a mutated inhuman, because Lee and Kirby never outright stated he was a dog. When someone posted the very panel in which he was introduced, in which he was licking Crystal in the face like there's no tomorrow, he still argued that it could be the way inhumans do formal greetings.

Just to say that this can go on forever with very slim chances of a satisfying solution for the parties involved.

omglol

Sigphi is obviously a couple of frat guys with half a brain between each of them.

That explains a lot.

Ew! Boys. Karma could POSSESS DAKEN AND MAKE HIM A LESBIAN.

Karma is the best.

LOL

[Slung]

Yes, i also said that I am an inner space alien that came to earth to slowing defeat it by posting in comic book board, right?

That would explain the difficulty in grasping human sequential storytelling.

[psycwave]

If Northstar and Black Boyfriend breakup he should totally call Daken.

[Sighphi]

Let me try again:

1) Scene begins with an extremely homoerotic narrative box about rubbing things in faces and taking it with a smile.

Oh i missed the memo that said rubbing means homosexual stuff. Sorry folks. . .

2) Barry cries about how he has a wife and kids. "I didn't do anything! WAAHH!"

continues to focus one the wife and kids and ignores every else said. Good show.

3) Good cop/Bad cop "Who were you with, Barry!"

So the cops thinks Barry is gay? Man them are some good coppers.

4) Barry sees a smirking Daken "No one, I did it all - I take the blame!"

Wait some one giving the evil eye to some one else means also gay stuff?
How big is that memo i missed?!?!??!

5) More Daken narrative boxes about being able to control emotions and making people's bodies follow through. We see a crushed Barry in the background.

Which of course means that the only emotions men have is sex, right?

Sure, it doesn't hit you over-the-head and show Daken having sex with Barry in a flashback - but logical the only reason Barry takes the blame is to save himself the shame of admitting to having sex with a dude. Why else does he admit to something he didn't do? Why else does the author let us find out that he has a family and a new apartment (if he loses his job he'll lose the new place - but then he admits to the crime!). How do you not see this?

Because there is NO other reason that doesnt involve sex. . . . yes ok.

[Puunk]

If Northstar and Black Boyfriend breakup he should totally call Daken.

Oh please.

Daken's involved with Bullseye.
LetItBeLetItBeLetItBeLetItBe...

[Vic Vega]

Which of us would be the 'powerbottom'? And what is a 'powerbottom'?

I think you need to ask those questions in reverse order.:biggrin:

P.S.: Kudos to PAD for for clearly defining something that nobody else at Marvel would have bothered to.

[Nyssane]

Sick, who would be the top in Bullsken? They're both nelly bottoms.

[psycwave]

Oh please.

Daken's involved with Bullseye.
LetItBeLetItBeLetItBeLetItBe...

Thats just a grudge fuck.

[Seres]

I think you need to ask those questions in reverse order.:biggrin:

Waterlily knows what she's doing.

[Puunk]

Oh i missed the memo that said rubbing means homosexual stuff. Sorry folks. . .



continues to focus one the wife and kids and ignores every else said. Good show.



So the cops thinks Barry is gay? Man them are some good coppers.



Wait some one giving the evil eye to some one else means also gay stuff?
How big is that memo i missed?!?!??!



Which of course means that the only emotions men have is sex, right?



Because there is NO other reason that doesnt involve sex. . . . yes ok.

Sighphi, while I won't disagree with your reasoning -> what other option is there? No, seriously. What do you think they could have done? That's actually someting I'm asking.

The fact there was a sexual encounter with Barry is something we all immediately assume mainly because we all got the strong impression Daken was bisexual - he did, after all, seduce a man instead of easily beating him up.

[Puunk]

Sick, who would be the top in Bullsken? They're both nelly bottoms.

Well duh, Daken. Oh yeah. Daken. Daken's a real man. Daken's always in charge. Daken's a bad boy.

Thats just a grudge fuck.

A perfect grudge fuck.

[FeminineMystique]

Oh i missed the memo that said rubbing means homosexual stuff. Sorry folks. . .



continues to focus one the wife and kids and ignores every else said. Good show.



So the cops thinks Barry is gay? Man them are some good coppers.



Wait some one giving the evil eye to some one else means also gay stuff?
How big is that memo i missed?!?!??!



Which of course means that the only emotions men have is sex, right?



Because there is NO other reason that doesnt involve sex. . . . yes ok.

I'm curious, why are you so desperate to claim that Daken can't possibly be bisexual? Can't you just admit that there are published stories that hint that he is?

No it hasn't been stated outright but not everything has to be spelled out in eight foot high burning letters:biggrin:

[Slung]

Oh i missed the memo that said rubbing means homosexual stuff. Sorry folks. . .
He was talking about Norman rubbing it in his face and taking it with a smile. That is homosexual subtext right there.


continues to focus one the wife and kids and ignores every else said. Good show.
What else did he talk about other than the apartment?



So the cops thinks Barry is gay? Man them are some good coppers.
No the "cops" (security) want to know if he has an alibi. And also give him an out if someone could have stolen the security card.


Wait some one giving the evil eye to some one else means also gay stuff?
How big is that memo i missed?!?!??!
You don't get out much do you?


Which of course means that the only emotions men have is sex, right?
What are you talking about? The writer and artist were using juxtaposition in their storytelling to talk about two different things at once.


Because there is NO other reason that doesnt involve sex. . . . yes ok.

Then WHAT IS IT? What is the other reason that Barry decides to take blame for something he didn't do? If he wasn't having sex with Daken why doesn't he just say: "that dude there was hanging out with me last night and I think he stole my security card". You aren't making sense.
Sighphi, while I won't disagree with your reasoning -> what other option is there? No, seriously. What do you think they could have done? That's actually someting I'm asking.

The fact there was a sexual encounter with Barry is something we all immediately assume mainly because we all got the strong impression Daken was bisexual - he did, after all, seduce a man instead of easily beating him up.
Exactly.

[Sighphi]

Sighphi, while I won't disagree with your reasoning -> what other option is there? No, seriously. What do you think they could have done? That's actually someting I'm asking.

The fact there was a sexual encounter with Barry is something we all immediately assume mainly because we all got the strong impression Daken was bisexual - he did, after all, seduce a man instead of easily beating him up.

You are actually asking this? How does this scenario play out without it involving sex? Daken said he controls emotions......... how many different type of things can emotions affect? The dude could be depressed, lonely, was greedy, wanted excitement.
Come on man.

[Slung]

You are actually asking this? How does this scenario play out without it involving sex? Daken said he controls emotions......... how many different type of things can emotions affect? The dude could be depressed, lonely, greed, excitement.
Come on man.

And what does that have to do with not wanting to admit he was with Daken the night before?

[psycwave]

You are actually asking this? How does this scenario play out without it involving sex? Daken said he controls emotions......... how many different type of things can emotions affect? The dude could be depressed, lonely, was greedy, wanted excitement.
Come on man.

Thats not answering the question....

[Sighphi]

And what does that have to do with not wanting to admit he was with Daken the night before?

Ignoring that first two pages with Osborn asking him to tone it down with the slaughtering, are we?

[Puunk]

You are actually asking this? How does this scenario play out without it involving sex? Daken said he controls emotions......... how many different type of things can emotions affect? The dude could be depressed, lonely, greed, excitement.
Come on man.

Err I'll try and be more clearer - I don't think I explained it right last time. =\

Why did Daken have to seduce the guy? Daken's strong, he could have easily just punched the dude and he'd be set.

[Sighphi]

Err I'll try and be more clearer - I don't think I explained it right last time. =\

Why did Daken have to seduce the guy? Daken's strong, he could have easily just punched the dude and he'd be set.

Th..... the whole book is about how Daken is playing his game on everyone there and you are actually asking "Why didn't he just punch him."

[Puunk]

Th..... the whole book is about how Daken is playing his game on everyone there and you are actually asking "Why didn't he just punch him."

Way to avoid answering my question. =_.

[Waterlily]

Ignoring that first two pages with Osborn asking him to tone it down with the slaughtering, are we?

Th..... the whole book is about how Daken is playing his game on everyone there and you are actually asking "Why didn't he just punch him."

So you think he took him out for pizza and beer then? And then the guy was all like, "Oh snap, I had pizza and a beer with a psychopath and he might come and kill me, my wife, my kids, and steal my apartment if I give him up?"

That's not how I read it, but if that's how you want to read it, okay.

Now please explain how Daken kissing a guy is heterosexual.

[Sighphi]

Way to avoid answering my question. =_.


Way to avoid my my answer.

The book clearly shows that Daken is playing all these people, so why would he punch the dude which will OF COURSE leave an opened investigation when he could control the dude into giving himself up which OF COURSE closes the investigation and lets Daken continue on with his game unhindered.

Do you get it now?
What this better?

[Sighphi]

So you think he took him out for pizza and beer then? And then the guy was all like, "Oh snap, I had pizza and a beer with a psychopath and he might come and kill me, my wife, my kids, and steal my apartment if I give him up?"

That's not how I read it, but if that's how you want to read it, okay.

Now please explain how Daken kissing a guy is heterosexual.

So we are forgetting now that the dude has the power to affects people's emotions?

[alf_to_the_rescue]

I enjoy heterosexuals kissing

[Puunk]

Way to avoid my my answer.

How on Earth am I supposed to answer an answer?

[Astonishing!]

So we are forgetting now that the dude has the power to affects people's emotions?

What does controlling emotions have to do with kissing someone? Surely that would suggest that Daken wanted to kiss the guy?

[RoguefanAM]

So we are forgetting now that the dude has the power to affects people's emotions?

There are easier ways to kill someone then manipulating their emotions, especially if you're Daken. He's proven time and time again if he really wants to kill you, he's won't shy away from the direct method. No, he seduces people because he wants to. Not because it's his only option.

He does what he does because he get's off on it. In fact, I don't think he really cares about either sex. To label him as heterosexual, or even homosexual is just plain wrong. Bisexual is not completely correct either, but it's close enough.

[Waterlily]

So we are forgetting now that the dude has the power to affects people's emotions?


I admit it, I forgot.

So, how is Daken kissing a guy in Wolverine Origins #11 heterosexual?

[Slung]

There are easier ways to kill someone then manipulate their emotions. He does what he does because he get's off on it. In fact, I don't think he really cares about either sex. He just get's a high on manipulating others. But to label him as heterosexual, or even homosexual is just plain wrong. Bisexual is not completely correct either, but it's close enough.

"pansexual (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pansexuality)" is the correct term.

[Sighphi]

How on Earth am I supposed to answer an answer?

i didnt asked you to answer anything.
You declared that i didnt answer your question which i did.
That's when i replied saying that i didnt avoid answering your question you just avoided my answer. Which you just did again when i further explained my answer in the post you decided to only quote the first sentence.

In conclusion. Because it seems like i have to repeat stuff twice so it can be understood.

You asked a question.
I answered.
You ignored answer.
I point this out and answer further.
You ignored this as well and went on to ask something else.

[RoguefanAM]

"pansexual (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pansexuality)" is the correct term.

There we go. :smile:

[alf_to_the_rescue]

i didnt asked you to answer anything.
You declared that i didnt answer your question which i did.
That's when i replied saying that i didnt avoid answering your question you just avoided my answer. Which you just did again when i further explained my answer in the post you decided to only quote the first sentence.

In conclusion. Because it seems like i have to repeat stuff twice to it can be understood.

You asked a question.
I answered.
You ignored answer.
I point this out and answer further.
You ignored this as well and went on to ask something else.

Ignorance is horrible isn't it

[darknessatnoon]

"pansexual (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pansexuality)" is the correct term.

Please.

The following are your options:

Drag queens, size queens, shrimp queens (toe-sucking), rice queens (Orientals), potato queens (Occidentals), Fire Island queens, circuit queens (Fire Island/gym/disco circuit), cha-cha queens (Latinos), rice-and-bean queens (Mexicans), Queens for a Day (married men from New Jersey who go to the baths), face-sitting queens, fist queens, dish queens, Astoria Queens, dinge queens, beanie-boy queens (OrthodoxJews), salami queens (Italians), salami-casing queens (uncut Italians), leather queens, opera queens, tearoom queens, smoke queens, popper queens, enema queens, personals queens ("likes long walks on beaches"), glory-hole queens, tattoo queens, butt-hole queens, Studio queens (Studio 54--similarly, disco dollies), snow queens (cocaine, or blacks who like whites), fag-hag queens, hyphenate queens (actor-model-dancer-waiters~, stress queens, roller-derby queens (wheelchairs, etc.), alfalfa queens (macrobiotic), diesel queens (men who dress up like dykes), chicken queens, diva queens, screen queens, seafood queens (sailors), souvlaki queens (Greek action), crepesuzette queens (French action), Perils-of-Pauline queens (thrill-seekers), blue-jean queens (Calvin K/ein, Gloria Vanderbilt), teddy-bear queens, cherry queens (deflowering virgins), Crisco queens, smut queens, ice queens (diamond-stud earrings), banana queens (curved dicks), Jimmy Dean queens (Levi's, Elizabeth Taylor, and rebels without a cause), Lean Cuisine queens (perpetual dieters), mean queens (S&M), twisted queens (deranged), pee queens (water sports), teen queens, unweaned queens (sucking on tits--also known as Dairy Queens), magazine queens (addicted to glossies andpress releases), railroad queens, locker-room queens, Mile High Club queens (making it in airplane johns), rubber queens, dildo queens, beet queens (Future Farmers of America back in high school--see also "yam queens"), dream queens (GQ types), scream queens ( "Faaabulous! !!!"), Palace queens (Leona Helmsley), tuna queens (male lesbians), pesto queens (into garlic), egg-cream queens, fashion-vlctlm/style-police queens (beyond therapy), hostage queens (fantasies of being taken hostage in a foreign American embassy and being brutalized by idealistic young university-student revolutionaries), vanilla queens (into vanilla sex: basic sucking and fucking, no fantasies allowed), matzo-meal queens (ReformJews), Wuthering Heights queens (hopeless romantics), skin queens (uncircumcised), peeled queens (cut), designer queens, steroid queens, beach queens, smack queens, Ma Bell queens (phone sex), Tom Thumb queens (small dicks), uniform queens, piano-bar queens, salad queens (rimming), bottle queens (alcoholics), flea queens (sex in run-down hotels), bullhorn queens (politicos), flab queens (a.k.a. chubby-chasers), evil queens (approximately ninety percent of the above), therapy queens (electroshock queens, Bellevue queens, couch queens, Valium queens, etc.), condo and co-op queens (the landed gentry in Manhattan), and closet queens.

[Sighphi]

I admit it, I forgot.

So, how is Daken kissing a guy in Wolverine Origins #11 heterosexual?

Is that the pages people keep posting?

If it is the dude obviously wanted to kill this dude silently and leave him in such a way people would not suspect anything but what seemed like the obvious. Which is basically what he did in 75, he did something and left it so no one would dig too deep.

It seems to be his MO....

[Astonishing!]

Please.

The following are your options:

Drag queens, size queens, shrimp queens (toe-sucking), rice queens (Orientals), potato queens (Occidentals), Fire Island queens, circuit queens (Fire Island/gym/disco circuit), cha-cha queens (Latinos), rice-and-bean queens (Mexicans), Queens for a Day (married men from New Jersey who go to the baths), face-sitting queens, fist queens, dish queens, Astoria Queens, dinge queens, beanie-boy queens (OrthodoxJews), salami queens (Italians), salami-casing queens (uncut Italians), leather queens, opera queens, tearoom queens, smoke queens, popper queens, enema queens, personals queens ("likes long walks on beaches"), glory-hole queens, tattoo queens, butt-hole queens, Studio queens (Studio 54--similarly, disco dollies), snow queens (cocaine, or blacks who like whites), fag-hag queens, hyphenate queens (actor-model-dancer-waiters~, stress queens, roller-derby queens (wheelchairs, etc.), alfalfa queens (macrobiotic), diesel queens (men who dress up like dykes), chicken queens, diva queens, screen queens, seafood queens (sailors), souvlaki queens (Greek action), crepesuzette queens (French action), Perils-of-Pauline queens (thrill-seekers), blue-jean queens (Calvin K/ein, Gloria Vanderbilt), teddy-bear queens, cherry queens (deflowering virgins), Crisco queens, smut queens, ice queens (diamond-stud earrings), banana queens (curved dicks), Jimmy Dean queens (Levi's, Elizabeth Taylor, and rebels without a cause), Lean Cuisine queens (perpetual dieters), mean queens (S&M), twisted queens (deranged), pee queens (water sports), teen queens, unweaned queens (sucking on tits--also known as Dairy Queens), magazine queens (addicted to glossies andpress releases), railroad queens, locker-room queens, Mile High Club queens (making it in airplane johns), rubber queens, dildo queens, beet queens (Future Farmers of America back in high school--see also "yam queens"), dream queens (GQ types), scream queens ( "Faaabulous! !!!"), Palace queens (Leona Helmsley), tuna queens (male lesbians), pesto queens (into garlic), egg-cream queens, fashion-vlctlm/style-police queens (beyond therapy), hostage queens (fantasies of being taken hostage in a foreign American embassy and being brutalized by idealistic young university-student revolutionaries), vanilla queens (into vanilla sex: basic sucking and fucking, no fantasies allowed), matzo-meal queens (ReformJews), Wuthering Heights queens (hopeless romantics), skin queens (uncircumcised), peeled queens (cut), designer queens, steroid queens, beach queens, smack queens, Ma Bell queens (phone sex), Tom Thumb queens (small dicks), uniform queens, piano-bar queens, salad queens (rimming), bottle queens (alcoholics), flea queens (sex in run-down hotels), bullhorn queens (politicos), flab queens (a.k.a. chubby-chasers), evil queens (approximately ninety percent of the above), therapy queens (electroshock queens, Bellevue queens, couch queens, Valium queens, etc.), condo and co-op queens (the landed gentry in Manhattan), and closet queens.

Oh my. :eek:

[Fatguy]

Please.

The following are your options:

Drag queens, size queens, shrimp queens (toe-sucking), rice queens (Orientals), potato queens (Occidentals), Fire Island queens, circuit queens (Fire Island/gym/disco circuit), cha-cha queens (Latinos), rice-and-bean queens (Mexicans), Queens for a Day (married men from New Jersey who go to the baths), face-sitting queens, fist queens, dish queens, Astoria Queens, dinge queens, beanie-boy queens (OrthodoxJews), salami queens (Italians), salami-casing queens (uncut Italians), leather queens, opera queens, tearoom queens, smoke queens, popper queens, enema queens, personals queens ("likes long walks on beaches"), glory-hole queens, tattoo queens, butt-hole queens, Studio queens (Studio 54--similarly, disco dollies), snow queens (cocaine, or blacks who like whites), fag-hag queens, hyphenate queens (actor-model-dancer-waiters~, stress queens, roller-derby queens (wheelchairs, etc.), alfalfa queens (macrobiotic), diesel queens (men who dress up like dykes), chicken queens, diva queens, screen queens, seafood queens (sailors), souvlaki queens (Greek action), crepesuzette queens (French action), Perils-of-Pauline queens (thrill-seekers), blue-jean queens (Calvin K/ein, Gloria Vanderbilt), teddy-bear queens, cherry queens (deflowering virgins), Crisco queens, smut queens, ice queens (diamond-stud earrings), banana queens (curved dicks), Jimmy Dean queens (Levi's, Elizabeth Taylor, and rebels without a cause), Lean Cuisine queens (perpetual dieters), mean queens (S&M), twisted queens (deranged), pee queens (water sports), teen queens, unweaned queens (sucking on tits--also known as Dairy Queens), magazine queens (addicted to glossies andpress releases), railroad queens, locker-room queens, Mile High Club queens (making it in airplane johns), rubber queens, dildo queens, beet queens (Future Farmers of America back in high school--see also "yam queens"), dream queens (GQ types), scream queens ( "Faaabulous! !!!"), Palace queens (Leona Helmsley), tuna queens (male lesbians), pesto queens (into garlic), egg-cream queens, fashion-vlctlm/style-police queens (beyond therapy), hostage queens (fantasies of being taken hostage in a foreign American embassy and being brutalized by idealistic young university-student revolutionaries), vanilla queens (into vanilla sex: basic sucking and fucking, no fantasies allowed), matzo-meal queens (ReformJews), Wuthering Heights queens (hopeless romantics), skin queens (uncircumcised), peeled queens (cut), designer queens, steroid queens, beach queens, smack queens, Ma Bell queens (phone sex), Tom Thumb queens (small dicks), uniform queens, piano-bar queens, salad queens (rimming), bottle queens (alcoholics), flea queens (sex in run-down hotels), bullhorn queens (politicos), flab queens (a.k.a. chubby-chasers), evil queens (approximately ninety percent of the above), therapy queens (electroshock queens, Bellevue queens, couch queens, Valium queens, etc.), condo and co-op queens (the landed gentry in Manhattan), and closet queens.

LMAO! lolol

[Slung]

Please.

The following are your options:

Drag queens, size queens, shrimp queens (toe-sucking), rice queens (Orientals), potato queens (Occidentals), Fire Island queens, circuit queens (Fire Island/gym/disco circuit), cha-cha queens (Latinos), rice-and-bean queens (Mexicans), Queens for a Day (married men from New Jersey who go to the baths), face-sitting queens, fist queens, dish queens, Astoria Queens, dinge queens, beanie-boy queens (OrthodoxJews), salami queens (Italians), salami-casing queens (uncut Italians), leather queens, opera queens, tearoom queens, smoke queens, popper queens, enema queens, personals queens ("likes long walks on beaches"), glory-hole queens, tattoo queens, butt-hole queens, Studio queens (Studio 54--similarly, disco dollies), snow queens (cocaine, or blacks who like whites), fag-hag queens, hyphenate queens (actor-model-dancer-waiters~, stress queens, roller-derby queens (wheelchairs, etc.), alfalfa queens (macrobiotic), diesel queens (men who dress up like dykes), chicken queens, diva queens, screen queens, seafood queens (sailors), souvlaki queens (Greek action), crepesuzette queens (French action), Perils-of-Pauline queens (thrill-seekers), blue-jean queens (Calvin K/ein, Gloria Vanderbilt), teddy-bear queens, cherry queens (deflowering virgins), Crisco queens, smut queens, ice queens (diamond-stud earrings), banana queens (curved dicks), Jimmy Dean queens (Levi's, Elizabeth Taylor, and rebels without a cause), Lean Cuisine queens (perpetual dieters), mean queens (S&M), twisted queens (deranged), pee queens (water sports), teen queens, unweaned queens (sucking on tits--also known as Dairy Queens), magazine queens (addicted to glossies andpress releases), railroad queens, locker-room queens, Mile High Club queens (making it in airplane johns), rubber queens, dildo queens, beet queens (Future Farmers of America back in high school--see also "yam queens"), dream queens (GQ types), scream queens ( "Faaabulous! !!!"), Palace queens (Leona Helmsley), tuna queens (male lesbians), pesto queens (into garlic), egg-cream queens, fashion-vlctlm/style-police queens (beyond therapy), hostage queens (fantasies of being taken hostage in a foreign American embassy and being brutalized by idealistic young university-student revolutionaries), vanilla queens (into vanilla sex: basic sucking and fucking, no fantasies allowed), matzo-meal queens (ReformJews), Wuthering Heights queens (hopeless romantics), skin queens (uncircumcised), peeled queens (cut), designer queens, steroid queens, beach queens, smack queens, Ma Bell queens (phone sex), Tom Thumb queens (small dicks), uniform queens, piano-bar queens, salad queens (rimming), bottle queens (alcoholics), flea queens (sex in run-down hotels), bullhorn queens (politicos), flab queens (a.k.a. chubby-chasers), evil queens (approximately ninety percent of the above), therapy queens (electroshock queens, Bellevue queens, couch queens, Valium queens, etc.), condo and co-op queens (the landed gentry in Manhattan), and closet queens.

You are so provincial.

[Vic Vega]

So we are forgetting now that the dude has the power to affects people's emotions?

Would a straight guy use his emotion affecting powers on a man if that would going to be the likely result?

Starfox had the same power and only used it on females.

There is a reason for that.

[darknessatnoon]

You are so provincial.

Don't pretend you're not a Wuthering Heights Queen.

[Puunk]

i didnt asked you to answer anything.
You declared that i didnt answer your question which i did.
That's when i replied saying that i didnt avoid answering your question you just avoided my answer. Which you just did again when i further explained my answer in the post you decided to only quote the first sentence.

In conclusion. Because it seems like i have to repeat stuff twice so it can be understood.

You asked a question.
I answered.
You ignored answer.
I point this out and answer further.
You ignored this as well and went on to ask something else.

How is "way to avoid my answer" an answer? Your incredible. If you had read what I wrote a page earlier, you'd know that I wasn't avoiding an answer. I don't feel the need to press onto the 'Daken is a bi' topic because frankly, I used up all my points and your evidently someone who refuses to believe the obvious points. Hence why I said that a page earlier.

"I pointed this out and answer further.
You ignored this as well and went on to ask something else."

That makes absolutely no sense. The first three are correct, but the last two are entirely bull you just made up on the spot. But frankly, I'm enjoying it. :biggrin: Your like this one guy I know that doesn't give up on something.

[Slung]

Don't pretend you're not a Wuthering Heights Queen.

You've got my number.

(but you never call)

[RoguefanAM]

Is that the pages people keep posting?

If it is the dude obviously wanted to kill this dude silently and leave him in such a way people would not suspect anything but what seemed like the obvious. Which is basically what he did in 75, he did something and left it so no one would dig too deep.

It seems to be his MO....

Except it's obvious that if he really wanted to kill the guy (even undetected) that certainly wasn't his only option. He does what he does because he enjoys it.

Heck, if he really wanted to leave the case undetected - kissing the guy outside a restaurant (where obviously people saw him) only harmed his inconspicuousness. It wasn't necessary, he did it because he wanted to.

[Dagger]

Don't pretend you're not a Wuthering Heights Queen.
What kind of queen would I be?

[Sighphi]

Except it's obvious that if he really wanted to kill the guy (even undetected) that certainly wasn't his only option. He does what he does because he enjoys it.

Heck, if he really wanted to leave the case undetected - kissing the guy outside a restaurant (where obviously people saw him) only harmed his inconspicuousness. It wasn't necessary, he did it because he wanted to.

It's not about being undetected it's about leaving it in such a way where no further questions would be asked.

[RoguefanAM]

It's not about being undetected it's about leaving it in such a way where no further questions would be asked.

A guy killed in a (seedy) hotel wouldn't prompt questions?

Isn't that standard plot material for a FBI/investigation TV series/book?

If Daken didn't want questions, he should've made it look like an accident - while steering clear away and having a alibi. Getting caught interacting with the victim on the day the guy died is going to spring questions...

[Waterlily]

Is that the pages people keep posting?

If it is the dude obviously wanted to kill this dude silently and leave him in such a way people would not suspect anything but what seemed like the obvious. Which is basically what he did in 75, he did something and left it so no one would dig too deep.

It seems to be his MO....

So he falls in this wonderful trope (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DepravedBisexual). I'm glad we came to an agreement. :smile:

[Waterlily]

A guy killed in a (seedy) hotel wouldn't prompt questions?

Isn't that standard plot material for a FBI/investigation TV series/book?

It would raise questions, but there would be no witnesses and no way to track him down.

[RoguefanAM]

It would raise questions, but there would be no witnesses and no way to track him down.

He was caught kissing the guy in public. I would understand simply taking him to a hotel and killing him there (and thus no witnesses). But that's not what Daken did.

Furthermore, Daken's got a very distinct look. Making it even easier for anybody asked to draw two and two.

[Sighphi]

A guy killed in a (seedy) hotel wouldn't prompt questions?

Isn't that standard plot material for a FBI/investigation TV series/book?

If Daken didn't want questions, he should've made it look like an accident - while steering clear away and having a alibi. Getting caught interacting with the victim on the day the guy died is going to spring questions...

I'm going to answer with a sentence i already wrote down to answer this

the dude obviously wanted to kill this dude silently and leave him in such a way people would not suspect anything but what seemed like the obvious.

Of course there would be questions but in the state the guy was left it would probably end up as some sort sexual encounter that went wrong instead of an assassination.

[RoguefanAM]

I'm going to answer with a sentence i already wrote down to answer this



Of course there would be questions but in the state the guy was left it would probably end up as some sort sexual encounter that went wrong instead of an assassination.

It'd still prompt the cops to go after him as the prime suspect though...

All that changes is the severity of the charges (manslaughter). Not that Daken is less of a killer.

[Sighphi]

It'd still prompt the cops to go after him as the prime suspect though...

All that changes is the severity of the charges. Not that Daken is less of a killer.

He would be a suspect if some one mentions that he was seen with him but he still can say that he backed out and left. So that would probably end up with the dude just picking up any bum off the street cause he was still horny and that bum ended up killing him.

[Dagger]

I'm going to answer with a sentence i already wrote down to answer this



Of course there would be questions but in the state the guy was left it would probably end up as some sort sexual encounter that went wrong instead of an assassination.
That doesn't make sense, though. Just because someone dies in a sexual encounter gone wrong, it still doesn't let the other person get off on a technicality. It's still an offense the police will try to apprehend the suspect.

[Dagger]

He would be a suspect if some one mentions that he was seen with him but he still can say that he backed out and left. So that would probably end up with the dude just picking up any bum off the street cause he was still horny and that bum ended up killing him.
His DNA would still be on the scene, so they wouldn't rule him out of the list of suspects. If all it took was the suspect saying, I didn't do it, then we'd never have people convicted of murder/manslaughter. That's a silly rationalization.

[darknessatnoon]

That doesn't make sense, though. Just because someone dies in a sexual encounter gone wrong, it still doesn't let the other person get off on a technicality. It's still an offense the police will try to apprehend the suspect.

As if Daken wouldn't gut anyone who tried to arrest him.

[RoguefanAM]

He would be a suspect if some one mentions that he was seen with him but he still can say that he backed out and left. So that would probably end up with the dude just picking up any bum off the street cause he was still horny and that bum ended up killing him.

People did see him. The cafe that the woman saw him at for one.

And also the hotel owner. He wouldn't of asked any questions about two males coming into his establishment and asking for a single. But if the cops asked him why only one of them walked out of that room - then what?

[Dagger]

As if Daken wouldn't gut anyone who tried to arrest him.
That still wouldn't stop police from trying to arrest him.

[Sighphi]

His DNA would still be on the scene, so they wouldn't rule him out of the list of suspects. If all it took was the suspect saying, I didn't do it, then we'd never have people convicted of murder/manslaughter. That's a silly rationalization.

It's Daken, man, you think he went running around rubbing every surface?
And even with that i did mention that he could say he backed out which lead the dude into getting some one else that ended up killing him.

[RoguefanAM]

It's Daken, man, you think he went running around rubbing every surface?
And even with that i did mention that he could say he backed out which lead the dude into getting some one else that ended up killing him.

The hotel owner saw him. He can't use that as a alibi.

Plus even then, they could just assume he was lying. They don't have to believe that 'he just backed out and maybe someone else killed the guy'. Unless they witness backing him up that he really was somewhere else, they're going to poke and investigate further. And Daken wasn't being all that sneaky.

[Sighphi]

People did see him. The cafe that the woman saw him at for one.

And also the hotel owner. He wouldn't of asked any questions about two males coming into his establishment and asking for a single. But if the cops asked him why only one of them walked out of that room - then what?

Daken said that he took him to a seedy hotel where no one look each other in the face. Sooo.....there.

As for the chick, he could've control her emotionally to be tremendously scare of him and that would make her not say anything.

This last part of the thread needs to be move to some sort new thread discussing CSI/L&O-like reason how all these heroes get away with all the stuff they do.

[pryde15]

Daken said that he took him to a seedy hotel where no one look each other in the face. Sooo.....there.
As for the chick, he could've control her emotionally to be tremendously scare of him and that would make her not say anything.

This last part of the thread needs to be move to some sort new thread discussing CSI/L&O-like reason how all these heroes get away with all the stuff they do.

Doesn't that line make it blatantly obvious that they were there to have sex, though? Seedy Hotels are usually associated with hook-ups.

[RoguefanAM]

Daken said that he took him to a seedy hotel where no one look each other in the face. Sooo.....there.

As for the chick, he could've control her emotionally to be tremendously scare of him and that would make her not say anything.

This last part of the thread needs to be move to some sort new thread discussing CSI/L&O-like reason how all these heroes get away with all the stuff they do.

"Looks you in the face." It's a phrase, it's not literal. It's not like they can cover up their eyes and not look at their profile or face. Or else the money exchange would be pretty difficult to manage. They just don't pay too much attention to that sort of thing because of the type of establishment it is.

I'm betting the cops would drill him and get something. Or use blackmail. Whatever works. Again, someone like Daken is memorable.

As for the Cafe lady. I doubt she was really the only one who saw him there. Two guys kissing publicly is not a common thing. Even in Berlin.

[Sighphi]

Doesn't that line make it blatantly obvious that they were there to have sex, though? Seedy Hotels are usually associated with hook-ups.

All we see is the dude with the shirt of and Daken fully clothed.
So my theory of events is that he just took him there so the murder didnt look like a murder but as something that went wrong.

Because if he did have sex and all of that.......there would be plenty of evidence that would lead to Daken. More than the dudes kissing somewhere and walking into a hotel.

[Sighphi]

"Looks you in the face." It's a phrase, it's not literal. It's not like they can cover up their eyes and not look at their profile or face. Or else the money exchange would be pretty difficult to manage. They just don't pay too much attention to that sort of thing because of the type of establishment it is.

Sigh.... come on man of course NO ONE is taking this literal and is FULLY understanding the meaning this type of places. The types of places where no questions are asked and nobody saw anything. Come on, man.

I'm betting the cops would drill him and get something. Or use blackmail. Whatever works. Again, someone like Daken is memorable.

As for the Cafe lady. I doubt she was really the only one who saw him there. Two guys kissing publicly is not a common thing. Even in Berlin.

I'm betting when the cops where drilling him he used his jedi mind trick to make it seems like he isnt the droid they are looking for.

[Waterlily]

You would be surprised at what people DON'T notice or fail to report.




I the situation in issue #11 works for me. I'm more curious to see how he aquired the SHIELD uniform he was wearing. Did he get it from the coffee shop guy or someone else along the way?

[RoguefanAM]

Sigh.... come on man of course NO ONE is taking this literal and is FULLY understanding the meaning this type of places. The types of places where no questions are asked and nobody saw anything. Come on, man.

Except when you find a dead body in your room and the cops are at your office asking why there is a dead body on your establishment...that's when people start saying they DID see something. If they don't give the police something, it's their ass that's going to have problems.

For smaller things, like an affair or drugs they can sweep it under the rug but a murder? At least with that they can screw with the evidence a bit and not have the cops on their door. But a dead body...

I'm betting when the cops where drilling him he used his jedi mind trick to make it seems like he isnt the droid they are looking for.

Even so. Isn't that just proof of his depraved bisexuality, pansexuality? If he can get away with murder so easily, why play these games at all? He doesn't need to jump through these hoops to cover his tracks if all it requires is some pheromones. He manipulates and seduces because to him it's fun. Not because it's required for his assassinations/random evil plots.

Just look at Bullseye and other random villains. They kill and get away with it all the time. They don't need to resort to seduction or manipulation to get the job done or cover their tracks.

[Sighphi]

Except when you find a dead body in your room and the cops are at your office asking why there is a dead body on your establishment...that's when people start saying they DID see something. If they don't give the police something, it's their ass that's going to have problems.

For smaller things, like an affair or drugs they can sweep it under the rug but a murder? At least with that they can screw with the evidence a bit and not have the cops on their door. But a dead body...

I dont know how it is in Berlin but here Cops cant do anything to you if you are not doing anything wrong. If have all your permits, health stuff, fire safety, etc, etc, in working order they can't do anything to push you for info.

And again, all they have if they get anything is Daken with the dude.



Even so. Isn't that just proof of his depraved bisexuality, pansexuality? If he can get away with murder so easily, why play these games at all? He doesn't need to jump through these hoops to accomplish his goal. He does it because he wants to.

What? What's proof of what?
He made a murder look like something else, the end.
How is that proof of anything?


Just look at Bullseye and other random villains. They kill and get away with it all the time. They don't need to resort to seduction or manipulation to get the job done or cover their tracks.

Yeah, that's because they dont want to cover their tracks. They want reputations as killers.
Has it been shown that Daken wants the reputation of one of the greatest killers in the world?

[RoguefanAM]

I dont know how it is in Berlin but here Cops cant do anything to do if you are not doing anything wrong. If have all your permits, health stuff, fire safety, etc, etc, in working order they can't do anything to push you for info.

And again, all they have if they get anything is Daken with the dude.

They can if they're trying to pressure the hotel. For example, they get them as abetting a criminal if they're not willing to submit information. They can also get them with a bunch of other stuff that a 'seedy' hotel probably doesn't have to make it seem more private. Lack of security cameras, not checking for divers license, not keeping information on a computer (or some type of record), etc...

What? What's proof of what?
He made a murder look like something else, the end.
How is that proof of anything?

The point I was trying to make is if his pheromones can really make the cops think he's innocent, then why try to cover it up so much?

Bullseye and other criminals accomplish the same thing without resorting to such measures. Daken purposely goes out of his way to manipulate and seduce not because it makes him look innocent, but because he enjoys it.

Yeah, that's because they dont want to cover their tracks. They want reputations as killers.
Has it been shown that Daken wants the reputation of one of the greatest killers in the world?

He's part of the DA. That pretty much reveals to the superhero world, SHIELD, HAMMER, and other such organizations that he's not good news. He was also caught on camera telling a old lady to "move bitch!" as well as chopped an arm off. He knows that Osborn's plan is going to blow up in his face, yet his sticks around anyway?

I also don't remember him being too subtle about killing Wolverine.

[Disco Jess Minge]

This thread is supposed to be about Rictor and Shattybuns. Don't Micheal Jack this Farrah thread with this useless troll baiting all of you.

[RoguefanAM]

This thread is supposed to be about Rictor and Shattybuns. Don't Micheal Jack this Farrah thread with this useless troll baiting all of you.

This is eleven pages too late. But...I wouldn't mind moving this to the Dark Wolverine thread, I remember suggesting that pages ago but was ignored.

[Shafcrawler]

Totally. I mean, it's pretty clear Sighphi is just a Daken fan who likes all his superheroes/heroines straight (and who is currently in denial.bigtime). Or maybe he just likes annoying others.

I think the Shatterstar and Rictor relationship opens windows to many-a moments not regularly seen in Marvel comics. I'd love to see some of the women Ric's slept with confronting him about Shatty.

[coconutphone]

Oh I don't mind at all. Even though I can't see any of the troll's posts.

I can't wait to see some of the others reactions to them especially Syrin (who should have known) and Monet.

[justinkos91]

Totally. I mean, it's pretty clear Sighphi is just a Daken fan who likes all his superheroes/heroines straight (and who is currently in denial.bigtime). Or maybe he just likes annoying others.

I think the Shatterstar and Rictor relationship opens windows to many-a moments not regularly seen in Marvel comics. I'd love to see some of the women Ric's slept with confronting him about Shatty.

Having Shatterstar come with Rictor would be a good idea and interesting. Siryn and Shatterstar were pretty good friends in the X-Force days, it would possibly change how the three interact with each other.

[Sighphi]

They can if they're trying to pressure the hotel. For example, they get them as abetting a criminal if they're not willing to submit information. They can also get them with a bunch of other stuff that a 'seedy' hotel probably doesn't have to make it seem more private. Lack of security cameras, not checking for divers license, not keeping information on a computer (or some type of record), etc...

Ok i am not going to continue with this because this is all extremely theoretical and in the end , just like i said before, the only info they can here is that Daken walked in with the dude.


The point I was trying to make is if his pheromones can really make the cops think he's innocent, then why try to cover it up so much?

As far as i know Daken doesnt have unlimited range with his pheromones so he has to practice a certain amount of discretion.

Bullseye and other criminals accomplish the same thing without resorting to such measures. Daken purposely goes out of his way to manipulate and seduce not because it makes him look innocent, but because he enjoys it.

I dont know why you keep comparing Daken to Bullseye.
I already mentioned that Bull is a crazy killer that wants that reputation.


He's part of the DA. That pretty much reveals to the superhero world, at least, that he's not good news. He was also caught on camera telling a old lady to "move bitch!" as well as chopped an arm off. He knows that Osborn's plan going to blow up in his face, yet his sticks around anyway?

I also don't remember him being too subtle about killing Wolverine.

He apparently has a new plan going?

[twbasketcase]

Totally. I mean, it's pretty clear Sighphi is just a Daken fan who likes all his superheroes/heroines straight (and who is currently in denial.bigtime). Or maybe he just likes annoying others.

I think the Shatterstar and Rictor relationship opens windows to many-a moments not regularly seen in Marvel comics. I'd love to see some of the women Ric's slept with confronting him about Shatty.

He's only ever slept with Rahne, as far as women go. At least on panel, anyways.

[RoguefanAM]

@Sighphi and whoever else if following this discussion:

I moved this discussion to the Wolverine thread. This way, the Ricstar thread can stay a Ricstar thread and people don't have to muddle through our off-topic posts.

[Phoenix_Force]

THANK YOU.

One fan's idiocy de-railed a thread for 10 or so pages. :rolleyes:

So back to RicStar. *squee!*

Do you think they'll get apartment furniture at IKEA or Target?

[FeminineMystique]

THANK YOU.

One fan's idiocy de-railed a thread for 10 or so pages. :rolleyes:

So back to RicStar. *squee!*

Do you think they'll get apartment furniture at IKEA or Target?

Target would be a better choice. Some who enter the IKEA store...NEVER LEAVE:eek:
(Seriously. It's like the labyrinth. The bad one, not the one with David Bowie in sexy tight pants:biggrin: ) I was lost in IKEA for an HOUR.

[Phoenix_Force]

hahaha me too! I seriously had a head ache after leaving. I told my boyfriend that the next time we go, it'll be with our hiking gear and a food supply.

Actually knowing Ric, I bet they go to Urban Outfitters for their random chachkis.

[Agent_Torpor]

Target would be a better choice. Some who enter the IKEA store...NEVER LEAVE:eek:
(Seriously. It's like the labyrinth. The bad one, not the one with David Bowie in sexy tight pants:biggrin: ) I was lost in IKEA for an HOUR.

That's why they lay down the path with arrows! Follow 'em!

[FeminineMystique]

That's why they lay down the path with arrows! Follow 'em!

Those arrows are misleading! :frown:

I'm convinced the store itself was plotting to trap me

[Phoenix_Force]

OMG RicStar v. an evil, sentient hip furniture store!!!!

Write it, Peter David!

Please?

[twbasketcase]

It would have to be hideous furniture though because it's Ric and Star. They have bad taste in everything <3

[justinkos91]

It would have to be hideous furniture though because it's Ric and Star. They have bad taste in everything <3

At east Shattybuns lost the weird headgear and the bad ponytail.
Rictor's not tacky, just plain. He likes jeans, wife-beater shirt, Jacket, sometimes a sweater...

[Puunk]

"Shattybuns".

That makes me love the character more.

A whole LOT MORE. LIKE OHMG SHATTYBUNS! FREAKING .. OHMG. <33<33<33<33<333

[twbasketcase]

At east Shattybuns lost the weird headgear and the bad ponytail.
Rictor's not tacky, just plain. He likes jeans, wife-beater shirt, Jacket, sometimes a sweater...

Dude used to attach his shoulders pads with CHAINS. XD Plus he had every bad haircut ever, an endless supply of funky bandannas, and leg warmers.

It constitutes as hideous taste.

[FeminineMystique]

"Shattybuns".

That makes me love the character more.

A whole LOT MORE. LIKE OHMG SHATTYBUNS! FREAKING .. OHMG. <33<33<33<33<333

I'll have a joy-gasm if this becomes Rictor's pet name for him:biggrin:

[Quinnhop]

PAD, if you're listening, I LOOOOVE the Shatterstar redesign. Tell whoever did it, on my behalf, pls.

[coconutphone]

Ha I was re-reading an old issue of X-Force and it included the bit where Shatty revealed to Ric he learned Spanish so that they could communicate in a way others wouldn't understand in both battle and PERSONAL situations :)

[samhalliwell]

Dude used to attach his shoulders pads with CHAINS. XD Plus he had every bad haircut ever, an endless supply of funky bandannas, and leg warmers.

It constitutes as hideous taste.

Isn't this, like, the textbook definition of 'Bad-Ass' imagery from the 90's? I think most people would agree with that.

I'll have a joy-gasm if this becomes Rictor's pet name for him :biggrin:

We can always hope PAD listens to us in this particular aspect. It'd be hilarious, make every single team member uncomfortable and give Shattybuns the chance to provide a Death Glare for the ages.

Make it happen , PAD!

[FeminineMystique]

Isn't this, like, the textbook definition of 'Bad-Ass' imagery from the 90's? I think most people would agree with that.



We can always hope PAD listens to us in this particular aspect. It'd be hilarious, make every single team member uncomfortable and give Shattybuns the chance to provide a Death Glare for the ages.

Make it happen , PAD!

I guess it's just changing attitudes. What was "In" in the nineties often looks kind of ridiculous now.

Doubly so if it was drawn by Rob Liefield:biggrin:

[twbasketcase]

Ha I was re-reading an old issue of X-Force and it included the bit where Shatty revealed to Ric he learned Spanish so that they could communicate in a way others wouldn't understand in both battle and PERSONAL situations :)

Rictor also learned Shatterstar's language - Cadre - for the same reason. :biggrin:

[coconutphone]

They're so cute :)


I liked Shatty's matter of fact explanation as to how he learned Spanish (from watching TV).

[twbasketcase]

They're so cute :)


I liked Shatty's matter of fact explanation as to how he learned Spanish (from watching TV).

Agreed. For them it's like having a secret language that no one else is allowed to know. XD

[Drey]

(Seriously. It's like the labyrinth. The bad one, not the one with David Bowie in sexy tight pants:biggrin: )

I haven't watched Labyrinth since I was like 5, but I remember being scared of David Bowie in that movie lol. Then again I was scared of everything back then.

I agree about Shatty's new look. So much better than the headgear and ponytail.

[Sighphi]

THANK YOU.

One fan's idiocy de-railed a thread for 10 or so pages. :rolleyes:

So back to RicStar. *squee!*

Do you think they'll get apartment furniture at IKEA or Target?

Thanks for the continued insults.

[Phoenix_Force]

You're welcome.

[angelsjule]

Sigphi, for the record, pheromones influence sexual desire and corresponding behaviors. That is why, in conjuction with the Wolverine: Origins issue in which Daken admits to kissing another man, most people would leap to the conclusion that the scene referenced in Dark Wolverine implies that Daken had a sexual encounter with Barry. But I suppose that's why Daniel Way and Margaret Liu wrote it as they did. It allows people who are not comfortable with the idea of homo- or bisexuality to continue in ignorance, if they so choose.

However, getting back to the point of this thread, as soon as I saw Shatterstar, I knew that PAD was going to reward us with some RicStar action. It was like introducing a loaded gun at the beginning of a movie. If he didn't follow through, then what would have been the point? Can't wait to see where this goes. All I can hope for is that 'Star is allowed to stay on as a cast member, or at the very least,a frequent guest star.

[twbasketcase]

All I can hope for is that 'Star is allowed to stay on as a cast member, or at the very least,a frequent guest star.

I would love to see him stay too, even if its just mostly background stuff.

[Sighphi]

Sigphi, for the record, pheromones influence sexual desire and corresponding behaviors. That is why, in conjuction with the Wolverine: Origins issue in which Daken admits to kissing another man, most people would leap to the conclusion that the scene referenced in Dark Wolverine implies that Daken had a sexual encounter with Barry. But I suppose that's why Daniel Way and Margaret Liu wrote it as they did. It allows people who are not comfortable with the idea of homo- or bisexuality to continue in ignorance, if they so choose.



And what i have said from the start is how does having the ability to move people to act a certain way and using it mean you follow a certain sexual preference?

And for the record ..... there are bunch of different types pheromones.

[Puunk]

All I can hope for is that 'Star is allowed to stay on as a cast member, or at the very least,a frequent guest star.
I would love to see him stay too, even if its just mostly background stuff.

Couldn't agree anymore. :biggrin: