Disney tracers

[Eliseu Gouveia]

I´ll never look at Snow White the same way again (http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1906578)

[Pink Bat Maxine]

I´ll never look at Snow White the same way again (http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1906578)

Oh, I thought Disney Tracers were when you dropped acid and started seeing Mickey Mouse.....

[K-DoG7p7]

I´ll never look at Snow White the same way again (http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1906578)

thats actually not even half of it...

and there are even parts of the new movie that are stolen from the old ..

[Ghost]

I didn't know about this, but in retrospect, it's not really surprised.

Little John was just Baloo with clothes on, for crying out loud.

thats actually not even half of it...

and there are even parts of the new movie that are stolen from the old ..

Is it really stealing if they take stuff from their own movies, though?

[section 8]

Oh, I thought Disney Tracers were when you dropped acid and started seeing Mickey Mouse.....

Remember: Never watch "Fantasia" without a buddy

[JTPencils]

I'm not at all surprised, but then again, the Disney studios were famous for filming (in those days... today it would be called something ridiculous like frame capture hi rez digital movement study) for reference of action sequences of all types. If you've got the reference source, why not use it again?

[Eliseu Gouveia]

I'm not at all surprised, but then again, the Disney studios were famous for filming (in those days... today it would be called something ridiculous like frame capture hi rez digital movement study) for reference of action sequences of all types. If you've got the reference source, why not use it again?


Rotoscoping (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotoscoping) :tongue:

[Village Idiot]

Is it really stealing if they take stuff from their own movies, though?

It's no different than what Marvel has done a few times recently. There was a Hulk issue within the last 2 years or so that was mostly copied art.

[MacQuarrie]

I talked to a veteran Disney animator about this (he started at Disney on Sleeping Beauty and still does work for them occasionally).

His response?
"Oh, that's Woolie Reitherman. He always did that. I don't know why; it's actually more work for the animators than just drawing a new scene, but he always did that."

If you check the credits, you'll find that Wolfgang Reitherman directed all the movies using traced scenes.

The Rescuers (1977)
Robin Hood (1973)
The AristoCats (1970)
The Jungle Book (1967)
The Sword in the Stone (1963)
One Hundred and One Dalmatians (1961)

[Typo Lad]

Wasn't there some Great Mouse Detective in there too?

[MPagar]

Wow. At least it looked limited to the older films.

[Chiroptera]

I talked to a veteran Disney animator about this (he started at Disney on Sleeping Beauty and still does work for them occasionally).

His response?
"Oh, that's Woolie Reitherman. He always did that. I don't know why; it's actually more work for the animators than just drawing a new scene, but he always did that."

If you check the credits, you'll find that Wolfgang Reitherman directed all the movies using traced scenes.

The Rescuers (1977)
Robin Hood (1973)
The AristoCats (1970)
The Jungle Book (1967)
The Sword in the Stone (1963)
One Hundred and One Dalmatians (1961)

This!
Though it wasn't just his movies that did it; the tendency seemed to spill over and affect other animators and directors in Disney. As mentioned, it's odd because it's far more challenging to replicate a precious scene than it is to create an entirely new one... I wonder what possessed these guys to do it? Were they just trying to create a truly signature style and method that was consistent throughout all their films, or what?
It can't have been laziness, we already covered that it's actually more work than creating something from scratch.

[Gail Simone]

This video officially creeps me out.

[scout1279]

Wasn't it always pretty standard for animation studios to canabalize their own material? Filmation did a great deal of it.

It's not like Pixar comes up with a new program for how to do the same thing they did in one movie in any new movie they make.

[Eliseu Gouveia]

Wasn't it always pretty standard for animation studios to canabalize their own material? Filmation did a great deal of it.

It's not like Pixar comes up with a new program for how to do the same thing they did in one movie in any new movie they make.That´s like day and night.

Using the same program to do various movies is like using the same pencil to draw different comics.

[CutterMike]

Wasn't it always pretty standard for animation studios to canabalize their own material? Filmation did a great deal of it.

It's not like Pixar comes up with a new program for how to do the same thing they did in one movie in any new movie they make.

The difference is that Pixar uses different kinematics (routines that define how a character moves -- how much "bounce" in a step, for instance) for, at the very least, its main characters.

The equivalent to what the film-clip shows would be using the same kinematics routines for every character -- making Captain McCrea from Wall-E, Woody from Toy Story, and Mr. Incredible all walk and gesture the same way.

[scout1279]

The difference is that Pixar uses different kinematics (routines that define how a character moves -- how much "bounce" in a step, for instance) for, at the very least, its main characters.

The equivalent to what the film-clip shows would be using the same kinematics routines for every character -- making Captain McCrea from Wall-E, Woody from Toy Story, and Mr. Incredible all walk and gesture the same way.

True, but does it really inhibit your enjoyment? Disney has always used the same character types in their movies. they have a formula that's been pretty successful for them, and they rarely stray to far from it. this is just more evidence of that.

I guess I just don't see how it changes anything.