View Full Version : My speculation on Red Robin...(Includes Spoilers)
CMBMOOL
06-10-2009, 06:44 PM
One thing that bugs me about Red Robin is his mission statement, I mean suppose he does find evidence that Bruce Wayne is alive....My question is who going to believe him after all that's happen ? :frown:
nepenthes
06-10-2009, 06:46 PM
as a detective he'll have too find *proof* of his claims. that's what sleuthing is about after all
lepeos
06-10-2009, 06:50 PM
Judging from the spoilers I read about Issue 1, I'd take a guess Ra's will believe him
CMBMOOL
06-10-2009, 06:54 PM
Judging from the spoilers I read about Issue 1, I'd take a guess Ra's will believe him
But how far will he go t trust Ra and vice versa is the question ?
lepeos
06-10-2009, 07:00 PM
But how far will he go t trust Ra and vice versa is the question ?
I dunno I'd say there could be a fledgling partnership there, didn't he get on well with Ra's as part of the Resurrection of Ra's Al Ghul arc?
And because Ra's has got the whole, being alive for ages thing going on, I'd say it'll fit nicely with Bruce in the past
One thing that bugs me about Red Robin is his mission statement, I mean suppose he does find evidence that Bruce Wayne is alive....My question is who going to believe him after all that's happen ? :frown:
Somehow I don't think Superman, Flash, Green Lantern, Green Arrow or Wonder Woman would find the idea of Bruce coming back to life all that far fetched.
F1uke
06-10-2009, 09:47 PM
Despite the whole book being about Tim Drake trying to find Bruce, I don't think the way Bruce comes back will have anything to do with this book
Name Already Taken
06-10-2009, 11:02 PM
One thing that bugs me about Red Robin is his mission statement, I mean suppose he does find evidence that Bruce Wayne is alive....My question is who going to believe him after all that's happen ? :frown:
It depends on how the other spinoff titles play out and whether Hush is running around looking like Bruce. My guess is that Bruce won't know who he really is after whatever ordeals he has been through, and might look younger than when he was last seen and some combination of a Lazurus Pit thrown in for good measure. This will make even long time associates doubt his identity. From Catwoman to even Dick or Alfred.
His mind won't be his own for a time, and he will likely be dazed and confused for a spell until he 'snaps out of it,' likely through a tragic event in the bigger Batman titles to make him remember who he is and what he exists for.
That is just how I see it playing out.
Quinnhop
06-10-2009, 11:23 PM
Despite the whole book being about Tim Drake trying to find Bruce, I don't think the way Bruce comes back will have anything to do with this book
Same. Why would Morrison/DC let Yost -- the least veteran Batman writer of the group -- handle something as important/potentially epic as Bruce Wayne's return from the "dead".
Nope, I have a feeling that Red Robin's mission statement will end up changing as the series progresses. The Batman's still alive thing is just something to get him started. But once he's convinced that Bruce is alive, something'll happen to turn his attention. Then, satisfied knowing he'll see Bruce again someday -- and secure in his new role -- Tim will move on to that something new.
nepenthes
06-11-2009, 02:29 AM
Same. Why would Morrison/DC let Yost -- the least veteran Batman writer of the group -- handle something as important/potentially epic as Bruce Wayne's return from the "dead".
they wouldn't though. Morrison will create the method and story outline for Bruce's return and it will be Yost's job to make Red Robin lead up to that point. Yost would be going from Morrisons plan
IvCNuB4
06-11-2009, 09:04 AM
Vandal Savage was alive back in prehistoric times. This could lead to some interesting never-before revealed first meetings between him and Cave-Bat :cool:
Kylun123
06-11-2009, 09:14 AM
Same. Why would Morrison/DC let Yost -- the least veteran Batman writer of the group -- handle something as important/potentially epic as Bruce Wayne's return from the "dead".
Well, I don't think Bruce's actual return would happen in his book, that would be the main title/an event style book. But I like the idea of Tim Drake playing a large role in figuring it all out. Gives him a much larger role within this newly insulated Bat-Universe, instead of just being a fringe guy with no place whose going ons are separate and unrelated.
Karl O'Neill
06-11-2009, 09:17 AM
Morrison will bring back bruce. You watch.
gocryemokid
06-11-2009, 09:35 AM
The way I see it from RR#1 is that Tim doesn't really care who believes him. He's searchimg for Bruce really for himself because he feels that's all he has left. He's not looking for Bruce for everyone else, all he needs to convince is himself.
Scott Taylor
06-11-2009, 12:08 PM
Is it wrong to want to see a Cave Bat series with a Cave-batmobile that runs on foot power? :biggrin:
Quinnhop
06-11-2009, 12:28 PM
Is it wrong to want to see a Cave Bat series with a Cave-batmobile that runs on foot power? :biggrin:
I think it would be amazing. Have it written by Morrison. Hell, it could be a co-feature in B&R.
lulz
Captain Jim
06-11-2009, 06:55 PM
I have a feeling that Red Robin's mission statement will end up changing as the series progresses. The Batman's still alive thing is just something to get him started. But once he's convinced that Bruce is alive, something'll happen to turn his attention. Then, satisfied knowing he'll see Bruce again someday -- and secure in his new role -- Tim will move on to that something new.
Actually, Yost said in an earlier interview that this would be RR's mission for the first year.
nepenthes
06-12-2009, 02:16 AM
The way I see it from RR#1 is that Tim doesn't really care who believes him. He's searchimg for Bruce really for himself because he feels that's all he has left. He's not looking for Bruce for everyone else, all he needs to convince is himself.
this is a good point. it's clear that the search for Bruce is also about Tim trying to keep his life spiraling out of control any more than it has
CMBMOOL
09-11-2009, 09:25 PM
Now thanks to the events of Red Robin #4, it seems that Tim as found the Cave-bat drawings, but does he believe that this is a clue to Bruce being alive or not s the question.:frown:
CMBMOOL
10-17-2009, 10:25 AM
this is a good point. it's clear that the search for Bruce is also about Tim trying to keep his life spiraling out of control any more than it has
Yeah because what does Tim have left to go on anyway ?:frown:
MTL76
10-17-2009, 11:45 AM
Actually, Yost said in an earlier interview that this would be RR's mission for the first year.
Yeah, but I can't see Bruce's return happening in RR; it's kind of a "peripheral" title, and Bruce's return is affects the entire DCU. I would think it would be more likely to happen in B&R (although it doesn't fit the tone) or in a special.
dreyga2000
10-17-2009, 01:13 PM
Well, do believe the answers obvious at this point Tim Drake will now devote himself to bringing down the League of Assassins from the inside out...
Which is a really awesome premise IMO...
BruceWayne
10-18-2009, 10:48 PM
i think when tim finds proof, it should be very easy for someone like superman to believe it..
besides when bruce wayne returns it will most likely be in another bat book
CMBMOOL
11-28-2009, 06:56 PM
Well it seems that coming in March that Tim returns to Gotham with evidence of Bruce Wayne being lost in time, but the question still remains....Who is going to believe in Tim's story, especially after the events of Blackest Night ? :confused:
Well it seems that coming in March that Tim returns to Gotham with evidence of Bruce Wayne being lost in time, but the question still remains....Who is going to believe in Tim's story, especially after the events of Blackest Night ? :confused:
Well something's gonna have to happen that will make people realize that Bruce is still alive somewhere. And doesn't Tim have evidence from the cave with the writing on the wall along with the stone batarang?
Mat001
11-29-2009, 01:31 PM
Well it seems that coming in March that Tim returns to Gotham with evidence of Bruce Wayne being lost in time, but the question still remains....Who is going to believe in Tim's story, especially after the events of Blackest Night ? :confused:
Well, there's what's going on in "Batman: Blackest Knight" which is issues seven through nine of B&R.
Angelo2113
11-30-2009, 12:38 AM
I like to think that Batman and Robin is Dick Grayson and the superhero world are moving on from the fact that Batman is really "dead."
And in Red Robin, it's starting to make connections and ongoing story telling about Batman being sent back in time, and his journey through it.
So I like how they're connecting the end of Final Crisis, yet also moving on from Final Crisis.
Angelo2113
12-02-2009, 11:29 PM
Well it seems that coming in March that Tim returns to Gotham with evidence of Bruce Wayne being lost in time, but the question still remains....Who is going to believe in Tim's story, especially after the events of Blackest Night ? :confused:
Well the events of Blackest Night already happen by issue #6. So I'm sure it's going to be awhile after Blackest Night where people will start to believe him.
Mulbard
12-03-2009, 10:13 AM
I think there could be a crossover between Red Robin, Batman and Robin and Batman (including #700, perhaps written or co-written by Morrisson?), which leads to the return of Bruce Wayne (and possible death of Dick or Damien?)
BrightestDay
12-06-2009, 12:36 PM
I think there could be a crossover between Red Robin, Batman and Robin and Batman (including #700, perhaps written or co-written by Morrisson?), which leads to the return of Bruce Wayne (and possible death of Dick or Damien?)
I think this is the most likely scenario. Bruce's return is obviously going to be a big deal with an event story spanning over all of the Bat books, I'd imagine.
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