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the Hornet
06-10-2009, 06:11 PM
Just out of curiousity what is the primary reason you are interested in this book?

Gitaroo_Dude
06-10-2009, 06:13 PM
Creative team, which is the major deciding factor for me.

Quitely is one of my Top 3 artists, and everything he does with Morrison is about perfect.

And it's a good jumping on point, which I also like.

T Hedge Coke
06-10-2009, 06:20 PM
Morrison. Quitely. Dick. Damian. Alfred. Batman. Pyg and Toad were pretty good.

Hypothetically, I'd buy any issue where Batman and Robin interrupt Mr. Toad's wild ride with a flying Batmobile. Being written and drawn by quality folks only makes it better.

Kiryu
06-10-2009, 06:20 PM
Because I loved Grant Morrison's previous Bat-run and want to read the next chapter. That's what got me to pick it up.

What has me yearning for issue 2 is the incredible storytelling prowess the duo of Morrison and Quietly gave me a fun new take on the dynamic duo. It's fast and fun, opening with really spectacular action and highlighting Dick's more casual and laid back method of being Batman. For the five pages Dick spends without the cowl Morrison and Quietly convey what's gone down after Battle for the Cowl and establish the new Batcave. And rather then wax on about the reasoning with boring and forced exposition they do it simply. Leaving room for the reader to infer reasons why Dick left the Manor and set up shop in the Penthouse.

And with something as simple as Dick eating while on the job they establish that Dick is his own man, his own Batman. And that he isn't Bruce. Damian is turned around by a few lines about his father and thanking Alfred for dinner.

Then Pyg shows up and he represents the high concept insanity I love about Morrison's stories. A new and interesting villain with a sick and deranged MO.

I'm reading it because it's easily the best comic on the stands now.

carabas
06-10-2009, 06:21 PM
How about all of the above?

nepenthes
06-10-2009, 06:23 PM
It's Morrison
on Batman
with Frank Quitely
in a fun new style and direction
featuring Damian Wayne
and Dick Grayson in the main roles


all in that order

the Hornet
06-10-2009, 06:24 PM
How about all of the above?

nah I want to know the very main reason.....I like Dick and Morrison, but I Dick is the reason I am buying it, otherwise I would have waited for the trade.

BloodOps
06-10-2009, 06:28 PM
To be honest as a big Batman fan I was going to pick it up but for the sake of the poll, Dick Grayson as Batman.

carabas
06-10-2009, 06:47 PM
nah I want to know the very main reason.....I like Dick and Morrison, but I Dick is the reason I am buying it, otherwise I would have waited for the trade.
Hard to say.
It's arguably the main Batman book right now; more so than Batman or any of the others. That makes it pretty much an automatic buy.
And it's Morrison. Which also makes it an automatic buy.
And Dick Grayson being written properly. Again, an automatic buy.

Frank Quitely is amazing, but as far as I am concerned, there is no such thing as automatic buy artwork.

Kylun123
06-10-2009, 07:02 PM
Wanted to see the stories Morrison has to tell. So far so good.

Mia
06-10-2009, 07:14 PM
Because I loved Grant Morrison's previous Bat-run and want to read the next chapter. That's what got me to pick it up.



This my reason too. Besides, I'm curious to see how Damian fares as a member of the bat clan and what Dick does with him,

zur en arrh
06-10-2009, 07:57 PM
01. It's Grant Morrison
02. It's Dick under the Cowl
03. Damian is Robin
04. I'm a big Batman fan, and this is a flagship title.

Quinnhop
06-10-2009, 08:29 PM
1) Morrison
2) Quitely
3) Damian
4) Dick
5) Economy

Captain Jim
06-10-2009, 09:01 PM
None of the above. I'm buying it because I'm a Batman fan and because it's a quality product.

Jim Thompson
06-10-2009, 09:08 PM
None of the above. I'm buying it because I'm a Batman fan and because it's a quality product.Very much agreed. Well said.

F1uke
06-10-2009, 09:45 PM
All reasons, besides Damian as Robin (though that is neutral to me)

TheAmazingSpidey
06-10-2009, 10:08 PM
Where's the "I love Batman" option? :biggrin:

Brother Justin Crowe
06-10-2009, 10:45 PM
No "because it's freakin' awesome" option?

marvelprince
06-10-2009, 11:01 PM
Hmm, I'm not buying solely for any one reason listed (though I am leaning towards Dick Grayson as Batman)

40footwolf
06-10-2009, 11:02 PM
Grant Morrison! I'll pretty much read anything by that dude at this point. Hate to be one of "those guys", but that's the God's honest.

Name Already Taken
06-11-2009, 12:50 AM
I voted Dick Grayson as Batman. He has always been a solid character in his own right, but him carrying the torch for his mentor while gone has always held my interest. The contrasts and differences between the two are promising. The former Batman was always grim and foreboding when wearing the cowl, balanced by a Robin who was more light hearted and wise cracking, even in the face of adversity.

The current dynamic is flipped, with the former wise cracking protege trying to fill the shoes of the latter in B&R, with his own smart ass Robin filling in on the practical & cynical angle, very much like his father, while the current Batman (Dick) attempts to undue and counter influence what someone so young has been brainwashed to believe from his own upbringing, and right the wrongs Bruce was faced with as a child in regards to a much broader context and definition of what a 'hero' really is, and what he could be, under the right guidance.

Bottomline, no matter the specific reasoning in the poll above for this thread, or what conclusions that may be made, we get an optimistic Batman in overall outlook who struggles with the shadow left from his own forebearer, and how he deals with the bastard-punk-son as a sidekick while trying to teach him the 'right's vs 'wrongs' from his own upbringing to make certain that the new Robin doesn't wind up as skrewed up as the second one.

Plenty of ways it could pan out. Grayson as the primary mentor holds a lot of promise storywise, since he has seen both the rights and wrongs from Bruce, and is the quintessential pickup guy to carry out things as Batman, even though he will always be in Bruce's shadow.

the Hornet
06-11-2009, 01:31 AM
I voted Dick Grayson as Batman. He has always been a solid character in his own right, but him carrying the torch for his mentor while gone has always held my interest. The contrasts and differences between the two are promising. The former Batman was always grim and foreboding when wearing the cowl, balanced by a Robin who was more light hearted and wise cracking, even in the face of adversity.

The current dynamic is flipped, with the former wise cracking protege trying to fill the shoes of the latter in B&R, with his own smart ass Robin filling in on the practical & cynical angle, very much like his father, while the current Batman (Dick) attempts to undue and counter influence what someone so young has been brainwashed to believe from his own upbringing, and right the wrongs Bruce was faced with as a child in regards to a much broader context and definition of what a 'hero' really is, and what he could be, under the right guidance.

Bottomline, no matter the specific reasoning in the poll above for this thread, or what conclusions that may be made, we get an optimistic Batman in overall outlook who struggles with the shadow left from his own forebearer, and how he deals with the bastard-punk-son as a sidekick while trying to teach him the 'right's vs 'wrongs' from his own upbringing to make certain that the new Robin doesn't wind up as skrewed up as the second one.

Plenty of ways it could pan out. Grayson as the primary mentor holds a lot of promise storywise, since he has seen both the rights and wrongs from Bruce, and is the quintessential pickup guy to carry out things as Batman, even though he will always be in Bruce's shadow.

Cool thoughts buddy. Also, lets remember that Dick is recognized as the best field leader in DC. It will be interesting to see how his influence on Damian will work out in the latter's character development. His leadership (and mentoring as a result) would be better than Bruce's and I hope the writers show this by the time Bruce returns.

Zeraze
06-11-2009, 08:08 AM
It's Grant Morrison for me.

I rarely buy any Batman-family books outside of the main two that feature Batman, so Dick becoming Batman wouldn't have been enough to draw me in. Damian, written by most writers certainly wouldn't have been enough.

Grant Morrison's track record for writing comics I love is astonishingly good. If he writes it, I will buy it.

NickFury90
06-11-2009, 08:13 AM
Its the greatest creative team in the industry working on my favorite comic book character.

Why the hell WOULDN'T I buy it?

Karl O'Neill
06-11-2009, 08:39 AM
Honestly. You should have put multiple voting options.

I want it for two reasons.

Dick as batman and grant writing it.

Sn4tcH
06-11-2009, 08:46 AM
Yeah seriously, I would have picked, Morrison, Quitely, and there should have been "Because it's a Batman comic" option.

gocryemokid
06-11-2009, 08:49 AM
This is an odd poll. The choices are kind of weird if you ask me. If the only reason people liked B&R is because either dick or damian is batman/robin then obviously you are getting all the books with them? If that's solely what your basing your answer on (and due to the poll that's as specific as you can get) than there is no reason not to. Dick is Batman in a variety of titles. Where are the options like "Because its the flagship title" or "Because it's an interesting and compelling premise."

The only actual valid answer one can give from these options are if they are buying it solely because of GM/FQ, because this is the only book they are doing.

The real reason 90% of us are reading it is because its the main Batman book and we are all Batman fans. Not just because Dick is under the cowl, because like I said, this is not the only book he is under the cowl. There are many more, better, specific reasons to like this book.

Kylun123
06-11-2009, 08:56 AM
Cool thoughts buddy. Also, lets remember that Dick is recognized as the best field leader in DC. It will be interesting to see how his influence on Damian will work out in the latter's character development. His leadership (and mentoring as a result) would be better than Bruce's and I hope the writers show this by the time Bruce returns.

How long would you expect that learning/teaching/transition to take?

I am, as many are, eager to see Damian pull the reigns in and earn the title of Batman's Heir. But I'm curious how long a change like that should take over the course of a comic series.
A year from now would we expect to see that growth out of Damian, or at that point will he still be the snotty brat that gets under your skin?

Just excited to see how Morrison handles everything.

Kylun123
06-11-2009, 09:03 AM
"Because it's an interesting and compelling premise."

Personally I think that's covered by Dick or Damian, if that's what you find to be the interesting premise that's compellign you to purchase the book.

The real reason 90% of us are reading it is because its the main Batman book and we are all Batman fans. Not just because Dick is under the cowl, because like I said, this is not the only book he is under the cowl. There are many more, better, specific reasons to like this book.

I dunno, I feel like the Poll-Taker isn't really asking those who subscribe to all Bat-titles all the time, but rather asking those who jumped onto Batman to pick up this book, what drew them in.

Obviously, somebody who religiously reads Batman month in and month out isn't reading it (exclusively) for any of these reasons . . .

Karl O'Neill
06-11-2009, 09:06 AM
The Poll should have had more options.

Nobody buys any one comic solely for one reason.

Except marvel fans. Because they are part of stan lee's fanclub and feel the need to be loyal.

Kylun123
06-11-2009, 09:11 AM
Let's say you had 3 "reasons" for buying a book, you couldn't rank which one was pulling you in more than the others?

Should the poll read "The Biggest Reason you are buying" . . . why are people being so critical, if you don't see your reason don't vote in the poll . . .

Karl O'Neill
06-11-2009, 09:21 AM
I love nightwing, But say if somebody like daniel way or mark millar was writing it I wouldn't have bought it.

So the writer is important too. Just as much as the character. The art is just a bonus.

people clicking just nightwing/dick grayson option, is losing a vote on the other options and thus badly representing the overall why of why people will pick this issue up.

ONE OPTION IS NOT ENOUGH.

I voted because I like participating in these things. Moaning is just ME conforming to internet sensebilities.

Lemurion
06-11-2009, 12:11 PM
I love nightwing, But say if somebody like daniel way or mark millar was writing it I wouldn't have bought it.

So the writer is important too. Just as much as the character. The art is just a bonus.

people clicking just nightwing/dick grayson option, is losing a vote on the other options and thus badly representing the overall why of why people will pick this issue up.

ONE OPTION IS NOT ENOUGH.

I voted because I like participating in these things. Moaning is just ME conforming to internet sensebilities.

I agree because my real reason wasn't there either.

I tried it for Dick Grayson, but the main reason I'm buying it is because It's a damn good comic.

FanboyStranger
06-11-2009, 12:56 PM
I'm buying it for the combination of Morrison and Quitely. Although I haven't been impressed with Morrison's Batman run thus far, I think this is a step in right direction, especially with Quitely on art. I'm also looking forward to Frazier Irving's run, but not all that enthused about Tan after Quitely. (Not that I find Tan to be a bad artist, just that they've lined up such unique artists in Quitely and Frazier that Tan seems a tad too generic.)

Dirkner
06-11-2009, 01:06 PM
I am getting it because I want to start getting into the bat universe. I'm picking up all the new batman stuff right now and will see what I keep with after a few issues.

So far Batman and Robin was great in my thought. This suprised me because its Grant, and half the time I really dont know what the hell he is doing with his books. This though was a great story and I really liked the art and color job on it. Overall it was a 9/10 for me and anything that scores that high is worth keeping around.

In a side now, after reading it I wanted to go play Bioshock. The ending made me think of that game.

The Curtain
06-11-2009, 01:09 PM
I'm buying it because I checked out the first issue and I found that it was a great comic. It's really weird to me that "because it's good" isn't an option.

NickGuy
06-11-2009, 01:52 PM
havent bought it yet...if i ever do flip through the trade, it will be for quietlys art. hope hes stopped making everyone look like old men with kissy faces.

Luisa444
06-11-2009, 06:59 PM
I actually like the idea of Damian as The Boy Wonder. But, let's get serious: Bruce is Batman! I love Dick, but he's totally not Bats! :frown:

mgs
06-11-2009, 09:42 PM
normally, it would be due to Frank's art, but after checking it out, it didn't seem like enough for me to pick it up. :frown:

marvelprince
06-11-2009, 10:06 PM
I voted Dick Grayson as Batman. He has always been a solid character in his own right, but him carrying the torch for his mentor while gone has always held my interest. The contrasts and differences between the two are promising. The former Batman was always grim and foreboding when wearing the cowl, balanced by a Robin who was more light hearted and wise cracking, even in the face of adversity.

The current dynamic is flipped, with the former wise cracking protege trying to fill the shoes of the latter in B&R, with his own smart ass Robin filling in on the practical & cynical angle, very much like his father, while the current Batman (Dick) attempts to undue and counter influence what someone so young has been brainwashed to believe from his own upbringing, and right the wrongs Bruce was faced with as a child in regards to a much broader context and definition of what a 'hero' really is, and what he could be, under the right guidance.

Bottomline, no matter the specific reasoning in the poll above for this thread, or what conclusions that may be made, we get an optimistic Batman in overall outlook who struggles with the shadow left from his own forebearer, and how he deals with the bastard-punk-son as a sidekick while trying to teach him the 'right's vs 'wrongs' from his own upbringing to make certain that the new Robin doesn't wind up as skrewed up as the second one.

Plenty of ways it could pan out. Grayson as the primary mentor holds a lot of promise storywise, since he has seen both the rights and wrongs from Bruce, and is the quintessential pickup guy to carry out things as Batman, even though he will always be in Bruce's shadow.

Very well said. Completely agree.

The Poll should have had more options.

Nobody buys any one comic solely for one reason.

Except marvel fans. Because they are part of stan lee's fanclub and feel the need to be loyal.

ONLY because I don't want this to descend into a Marvel vs DC thread will I shrug this off with an lol :biggrin:

dupersuper
06-12-2009, 03:54 AM
I voted Morrison...I mean, come on! This is the All-Star Superman team.