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06-09-2009, 11:17 AM
"Marvel Divas" writer Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa sees the personal lives of four Marvel heroines to be just as crazy as their costumed adventures. We spoke with him about the new miniseries.


Full article here (http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=21520).

ExodusCloak
06-09-2009, 11:35 AM
So would these be considered Marvels A-list females:

http://comicbookresources.com/news/preview2.php?image=previews/marvelcomics/divas/MARVDIVAS001004_col.jpg

ThunderWolf!!!
06-09-2009, 11:35 AM
Looks cool.

protege
06-09-2009, 11:36 AM
Well, shoot- i may have to pick this up, if brother Voodoo's involved..

Will.S
06-09-2009, 11:39 AM
You know, I love the characters, I love the art, and Roberto is a really good writer but I have to wonder who exactly is Marvel's target audience here.

The premise of the "Sex in the city" with superheroes I suppose is for more of the female demographic but that's assuming that the book will thrive on those types of fans. I also think that putting these female characters into such a role is kind of lame considering that there could be better uses for them outside of this.

But given that its a limited series its probably not that big of a deal and maybe it'll be fun but this just seems like a very odd book to release, especially during the rougher economic climate.

kcekada
06-09-2009, 11:44 AM
Campbell's cover to issue 1 isn't his best work -- looks kinda phoned in.

The artwork to issue 2 is a noticeable improvement. This looks like it could be a fun read -- all of the characters are interesting -- and I like that there will be some character development instead of just slam bang action.

4sake
06-09-2009, 12:02 PM
I think I will get this now, It does seem/sound horrible any more plus it has few characters I like & always wanted to read about.

strong guy79
06-09-2009, 12:09 PM
Emma Frost is a celebrity?

There are two Catwomans. Where's Tigra? They should have just made it all catgirls.

GeorgiaUnity
06-09-2009, 12:09 PM
Everything RAS has done prior has been incredible, so I am all over this!

(I was actually astonished that he was 'bumped' from the regular FF book in favor of doing '4', since his was the freshest and most spot-on depiction I had read in many years. But, I figure in retrospect he wouldn't have gotten away with
half of his stories in the 'regular' book, so...)

And BIG LOVE rocks too!

I always find it funny when people question everything about a book ahead of time. Wasn't Robinson on STARMAN enough, instead of worrying that the character was brand new and the title would also feature a 3rd tier character with about 4 prior appearances (David)? There are lots of projects whose premises might
not have the perceived chops on paper, but if you know the writer or artist does quality work (which, in this case, he does) why quibble?

I always say that ANY characters can be interesting in the right hands. Just look to Dan Slott, Alan Moore, John Ostrander, and others for proof.

Captain Fur
06-09-2009, 12:15 PM
When i first saw Campbell's cover I thought Marvel had gone all chauvinist, but after reading this inteview and seeing some preview (and spoiling) art on Tom Brevoorts blog I realise I should have known better.

Marvel has a tradition of spotlighting its female charaters in a good way (to my mind come Dazzler, Spider-Woman, Ms. Marvel and She-Hulk series, all published for a considerable span of time, from 25 to 50 issues, and respectful to the characters and gender), and whereas they don't have any Wonder Woman analogue (really, they don't) they respect their heroines more than DC (IMHO).

I'm really looking forward to this limited series, my only regret is that it's only four issues long, and being a TPB collector as I am, this is gonna be a thin one.

Bevbos
06-09-2009, 12:17 PM
I wasn't crazy about his "Nightcrawler," but RAS' Spider-Man and Fantastic Four were both two of the best iterations in years, and received no acclaim (for the life of me I cannot figure out WHY), so I would read this series if it were called "Marvel Interns" about about failed superheroes velobinding documents in a basement somewhere. Seriously. RAS = Two thumbs up.

Sillia
06-09-2009, 12:19 PM
"Strong Female Characters" who each have a story focusing on their relationships with men?

... This doesn't sound promising. The real question is whether it will pass the Bechdel test.

Does it have:

1. At least two women who (at some point)...
2. Talk to each other about...
3. Something that isn't a man?

It's a pretty interesting test.

--S

ExodusCloak
06-09-2009, 12:22 PM
Emma Frost is a celebrity?

There are two Catwomans. Where's Tigra? They should have just made it all catgirls.

Lately the X-Men are Celebs the good looking ones anyway. Warren Worthington seems to think so, he was trying to persuade Scott to get Emma to drive one of his Worthington Cars because having her photographed behind the wheel is advertising you can't pay for.

Gitaroo_Dude
06-09-2009, 12:24 PM
That first cover is awful. And the author does a really bad job of defending it.

I'll probably pick this up in trade though, the art looks pretty good.

7thangel
06-09-2009, 12:27 PM
personally, i think the mu needs more of these type's of stories, the shit between the fights. the stories you get from indies, certain manga, etc but in the mu.

Dave H
06-09-2009, 12:46 PM
That first cover is awful. And the author does a really bad job of defending it.

I'll probably pick this up in trade though, the art looks pretty good.
I'd be sending Campbell a huge fruit basket or something for that cover.
Totally helped put this book on the map.

TF_loki
06-09-2009, 01:43 PM
That first cover is awful. And the author does a really bad job of defending it.

I'll probably pick this up in trade though, the art looks pretty good.

Awful? How is it different to any other JSC art? And in turn how is it worse thanto 75% of good girl cheesecake style covers from the big 2? I just don't see it....

spikethedragon
06-09-2009, 01:57 PM
I dunno I have better ways of spending my money like on a two Ralley's bacon crunch cheeseburgers, fries, and icy coke.

HeckBoy
06-09-2009, 02:09 PM
I hope they dont backtrack on Firestar's powers harming her b/c they already seemingly cured her back during Busiek's run on the Avengers (I remember Pym made her an undersuit to wear to help treat her, but I don't know if they ever explicitly said she was cured after that).

mattbib
06-09-2009, 02:17 PM
Dude, since when can Monica fly while solid, much less carry passengers?

kalorama
06-09-2009, 02:48 PM
Awful? How is it different to any other JSC art?

Well, no one actually said it was.

I'll probably get this in trade. I really like the streamline art style, though I wonder how it'll look in color. The cover is standard issue Campbell (take that as you like). It's also (A) a blatant bait-and-switch ploy meant to, essentially, trick fanboys into at least picking it up and checking it out in the store and (B) almost certainly going to work.

Corey W
06-09-2009, 03:03 PM
I think it looks interesting. I will probably check it out. Spider-man and his Amazing Friends was my favorite cartoon as a kid, so anything with Firestar is sure to draw my attention.

Andrew T
06-09-2009, 03:32 PM
I'll pick it up just to see if there are any Cat/Spidey references before she comes back into the fold in ASM.

Cayman
06-09-2009, 03:43 PM
Looks great.

Dermie
06-09-2009, 03:53 PM
Dude, since when can Monica fly while solid, much less carry passengers?

She's been doing it for a while now, actually. She has developed a bunch of new tricks with her energy powers over the years, since she regained them. Plus there was that whole period where she could fly (and had super-strength) when she lost her energy powers--so perhaps she still has some trace of those powers as well?

The earliest occassion I can think of her carrying someone in her energy form was in Avengers Unplugged #5--she knocked Genis out and carried him. Granted, Unplugged was not great for getting its facts right, but we've seen Monica carry things in energy form since then too. During Geoff Johns' Avengers run Monica was seen carrying a crate of medical supplies while flying in her energy form, and she was also carrying things in energy form during the Busiek/Perez Avengers/JLA crossover.

Frisky Dingo
06-09-2009, 04:16 PM
I wanna pick this up because I love Black Cat... but the art by Tonci Zonjic just isn't doing it for me. Felt the same way about his work on Immortal Iron Fist, but at least there it seemed to fit better.

Blade X
06-09-2009, 04:30 PM
This has "sales flop" written all over it. And if one or more of the characters end up getting married and/or pregnant, then it deserves to flop.

OMT, the fact that this book has a "PARENTAL ADVISORY" label on the cover is pretty clear who this stupid series is aimed at (Horny fanboys). Which is another reason why I hope and think this books deserves to flop.

Cayman
06-09-2009, 04:39 PM
This has "sales flop" written all over it. And if one or more of the characters end up getting married and/or pregnant, then it deserves to flop.

OMT, the fact that this book has a "PARENTAL ADVISORY" label on the cover is pretty clear who this stupid series is aimed at (Horny fanboys). Which is another reason why I hope and think this books deserves to flop.

RAS address your preconceptions in the interview, did you not read it?

“I really encourage people to check out the book with an open mind. I didn't write this series with any specific audience in mind. I wasn't writing it to court female readers or to appeal to guys who are after the T&A stuff. I wrote it to tell a good story about four really strong characters who don't get as much of the spotlight in the Marvel Universe as they should.”

Gitaroo_Dude
06-09-2009, 04:51 PM
This has "sales flop" written all over it. And if one or more of the characters end up getting married and/or pregnant, then it deserves to flop.

OMT, the fact that this book has a "PARENTAL ADVISORY" label on the cover is pretty clear who this stupid series is aimed at (Horny fanboys). Which is another reason why I hope and think this books deserves to flop.

Not that I disagree with the gist of your post, but what's wrong if a character gets married in principle?

kalorama
06-09-2009, 05:22 PM
This has "sales flop" written all over it. And if one or more of the characters end up getting married and/or pregnant, then it deserves to flop.

Yeah, because women getting married and pregnant is just wrong.

OMT, the fact that this book has a "PARENTAL ADVISORY" label on the cover is pretty clear who this stupid series is aimed at (Horny fanboys). Which is another reason why I hope and think this books deserves to flop.

If it were really directed at "horny fanboys" they'd have had J. Scott Campbell (or some other artist who specializes in drinking straw waisted, balloon-boobed Barbie dolls) drawing the interiors (instead of just using him as a lure on the cover).

Anthony W
06-09-2009, 07:39 PM
'Black Panther,' that she was part of a team that went down to New Orleans to help with Post-Katrina reconstruction, which led to a run-in with vampires and an interaction with Brother Voodoo. I have a real fondness for Marvel's supernatural characters, so I started imagining, what if Monica and Voodoo had a fling in the Big Easy? And what if it wasn’t 100% over?”



Dear God no....Just when you thought Marvel comics couldn't handle Katrina in a more half-assed way. Ask yourself this, would any writer at Marvel attempt to use 911 as an excuse for a hook-up?

7thangel
06-09-2009, 07:43 PM
Dear God no....Just when you thought Marvel comics couldn't handle Katrina in a more half-assed way. Ask yourself this, would any writer at Marvel attempt to use 911 as an excuse for a hook-up?why not? irl it was

Greg Anderson
06-09-2009, 07:46 PM
I don't get it. So the fact that Monica and Voodoo were possibly interested with each other after working together during a disaster is a problem? :confused:

Anywho, I was just planning on picking this up for Voodoo, but I like RAS' writing and I felt he did a good job with the interview. The art looks fantastic.

Blade X
06-09-2009, 09:14 PM
Not that I disagree with the gist of your post, but what's wrong if a character gets married in principle?

It ruins the characters by (a) aging them and (b) tieing them down with a spouse and kid.

Blade X
06-09-2009, 09:17 PM
Yeah, because women getting married and pregnant is just wrong.



If it were really directed at "horny fanboys" they'd have had J. Scott Campbell (or some other artist who specializes in drinking straw waisted, balloon-boobed Barbie dolls) drawing the interiors (instead of just using him as a lure on the cover).

See my previous post.

And the fact that they got Campbell doing the covers and the fact that they have described the book as "SEX IN THE CITY set in the Marvel Universe" is pretty clear that this book is aimed at horny fanboys.

Greg Anderson
06-09-2009, 09:23 PM
The only thing I've ever seen of Sex in the City was the movie and I thought it wasn't too bad. I'd be interested to see how they do that for this book.

Dave H
06-09-2009, 09:25 PM
See my previous post.

And the fact that they got Campbell doing the covers and the fact that they have described the book as "SEX IN THE CITY set in the Marvel Universe" is pretty clear that this book is aimed at horny fanboys.
So you didn't read the interview, or look at the interior art then?

Babylon23
06-09-2009, 10:31 PM
Can't say I'm sold on this book even though Hellcat and Firestar are in it. I'll approach it with an open mind but I'm not really expecting much. This interview hasn't really convinced me although I do like the artwork.

pariah-1972
06-09-2009, 10:42 PM
Looks interesting.

robnettle78
06-09-2009, 10:46 PM
Thank you very much was very interesting i am trying to do research on marvel charcters if u have any ideas????



http://www.mikojo.com/

jester1436
06-09-2009, 11:51 PM
See my previous post.

And the fact that they got Campbell doing the covers and the fact that they have described the book as "SEX IN THE CITY set in the Marvel Universe" is pretty clear that this book is aimed at horny fanboys.

Except Campbell only did the first cover and "Sex In The City" primarily appealed to women and gay men.

Bathawk1
06-10-2009, 12:08 AM
wow umm not sure what to say, so Firestar is going back to her plain yellow suit?

waitaminute

two plain yellow outfits
one plain black outfit
and one plain white outfit

looks like the gals will be about as "costumed" as the average aerobic workout class at gold's

and I'm guessing with Monica Rambeau we've officialy dropped the "Pulsar" name?

jester1436
06-10-2009, 12:15 AM
and I'm guessing with Monica Rambeau we've officialy dropped the "Pulsar" name?

I believe the article refers to her by her earlier codename of "Photon."

Pyro
06-10-2009, 12:52 AM
Well let's see. Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa, Photon, Black Cat? I am officially excited. :-D

I don't know why some people aren't expecting this to be good and fun.

Rurik
06-10-2009, 01:43 AM
Well I dig Black Cat, Monica is okay, but Machine Manwoman would've been a better choice in my opinion, and Elsa Bloodstone over Firestar. (I can't help but think of Spiderman and his Amazing Friends when I think of her and Iceman) Can't say I'm terribly familiar with, Hell Cat is it? But I'm willing to give her a shot.

Vic Vega
06-10-2009, 08:37 AM
I REALLY like the idea of a M.U. "Sex In The City"-like book. The Marvel characters lend themselves to this kind of storytelling as they are so down to Earth (most of them anyway).

But this is a really weird grouping they have got for themselves.

Can't see any reason why these four would be friends at all.

Also, how do you do a book like this and NOT have She-Hulk in it? She's practially Miranda with Super-Powers.

I'm going to have to pick this one up to see how they pull this off.

Dermie
06-10-2009, 09:46 AM
Dear God no....Just when you thought Marvel comics couldn't handle Katrina in a more half-assed way. Ask yourself this, would any writer at Marvel attempt to use 911 as an excuse for a hook-up?

I don't think that's fair. The Katrina-related story was already told, in another series. This book is just picking up on the meeting between the two characters there, and using it as a starting point. Its not like the writer did a Katrina story to get the two together for a romance--he was simply taking advantage of a meeting between them that was already established on-panel.

But this is a really weird grouping they have got for themselves.

Can't see any reason why these four would be friends at all.

Also, how do you do a book like this and NOT have She-Hulk in it? She's practially Miranda with Super-Powers.

Its true it is an odd grouping. If someone said "Sex in the City in the Marvel Universe" to me, my first thoughts would be She-Hulk and the Wasp...and then possibly Tigra, Dazzler or Ms Marvel. I do think its kinda cool that Aquirre-Sacasa chose to go in a different direction and highlight some other characters who are more under-used.

As for the four of them being friends...as you said, it isn't the most natural grouping in the world, but three of them are former Avengers, so that at least has given them some opportunity to meet and bond.

kalorama
06-10-2009, 05:17 PM
It ruins the characters by (a) aging them and (b) tieing them down with a spouse and kid.

You mean like Sue Storm? She's sure got downhill since gettin' hitched and knocked up.

And the fact that they got Campbell doing the covers and the fact that they have described the book as "SEX IN THE CITY set in the Marvel Universe" is pretty clear that this book is aimed at horny fanboys.

Yeah, because young male nerds were the rock solid core of the Sex and the City show's audience demographics.

chastmastr
06-10-2009, 10:46 PM
You know, I love the characters, I love the art, and Roberto is a really good writer but I have to wonder who exactly is Marvel's target audience here.

Well... if you love the characters, and the art, and Roberto's writing... then the target audience is you. :)

(And me...)

Though I personally would prefer it to be out of current continuity (well, at least it doesn't have a "DARK REIGN!" banner on the cover), I'm definitely picking this up.

pariah-1972
06-10-2009, 10:52 PM
I liked R.A.S on his Nightcrawler solo series haven't read anything else of his.

Have to admit it's a pretty interesting idea, so i'm willing to try it out, i can't see this lasting very long tho to be honest it will probably go down in history as a silly idea like NFL Superpro.

Gitaroo_Dude
06-10-2009, 11:23 PM
I liked R.A.S on his Nightcrawler solo series haven't read anything else of his.

Have to admit it's a pretty interesting idea, so i'm willing to try it out, i can't see this lasting very long tho to be honest it will probably go down in history as a silly idea like NFL Superpro.

Well, it's a 4 issue mini, so I don't think that'll be a problem.

I'll probably pick up the trade for this, because even though the marketing is awful and I hate the first cover, it won't affect the writing or interior art.

pariah-1972
06-10-2009, 11:24 PM
Well, it's a 4 issue mini, so I don't think that'll be a problem.

I'll probably pick up the trade for this, because even though the marketing is awful and I hate the first cover, it won't affect the writing or interior art.Who is doing the interiors? the pages looked kind of bland from what i saw.

Babylon23
06-10-2009, 11:34 PM
My biggest concern is that the characters will be shoehorned into new personality types to accomodate the story. This happened already with Photon in Next Wave. I'm a big fan of Hellcat and Firestar but I wonder if they'll still seem like the same characters that I grew to love.

Rurik
06-10-2009, 11:37 PM
Monica's Nextwave personality was better anyway.

Dermie
06-10-2009, 11:43 PM
Monica's Nextwave personality was better anyway.

I completely disagree. Thankfully, it has since been revealed that the Monica in Nextwave was an alternate reality doppelganger (at least part of the time, if not for the entire series), so that gives the "old-school" Monica fans their version of the character back, while still letting the doppelganger exist for the fans of the Nextwave version.

pariah-1972
06-10-2009, 11:56 PM
I could never really get into Nextwave i don't know why i mean i've only read two issues but it was maybe too weird for me i guess none of the characters acted or looked the way i'm used to them.

Babylon23
06-11-2009, 12:08 AM
Monica's Nextwave personality was better anyway.

Then they should have just created a new character and left it at that.

Rurik
06-11-2009, 12:55 AM
Technically they DID, Nextwave was intended to be a stand alone universe separate from 616. And when, in recent memory, can you recall Marvel deciding to create a new character instead of just taking an old established character, and twisting them somehow? (Illuminati anyone? I certainly remember a time when Iron Man, and especially Reed Richards would've been the first ones to stand up and say "We can't trick the Hulk into a spaceship and exile him into space! If we do that we'd be no better than the likes of Doctor Doom!") Personally, I sincerely hope this is going to be like Nextwave, a stand alone story, not connected to any Dark Secret World Civil War Crisis Super Mega Ultra Cross-over We're Only Doing This To Try To Squeeze As Much Money Out Of You As Possible By Making You Buy A Dozen Comics You'd Otherwise Never Read Just To Understand What's Going On Events.

Greg Anderson
06-11-2009, 07:40 AM
Technically they DID, Nextwave was intended to be a stand alone universe separate from 616. And when, in recent memory, can you recall Marvel deciding to create a new character instead of just taking an old established character, and twisting them somehow? (Illuminati anyone? I certainly remember a time when Iron Man, and especially Reed Richards would've been the first ones to stand up and say "We can't trick the Hulk into a spaceship and exile him into space! If we do that we'd be no better than the likes of Doctor Doom!") Personally, I sincerely hope this is going to be like Nextwave, a stand alone story, not connected to any Dark Secret World Civil War Crisis Super Mega Ultra Cross-over We're Only Doing This To Try To Squeeze As Much Money Out Of You As Possible By Making You Buy A Dozen Comics You'd Otherwise Never Read Just To Understand What's Going On Events.

If you said at the end, "Can I get an amen?" I woulda replied, "Amen."

chastmastr
06-11-2009, 08:33 AM
I, too, will add my own "Amen" to that.

Hypestyle
06-11-2009, 10:43 AM
something not explained yet.. apparently Monica's powers have evolved.. the preview art shows her carrying people while flying. i'm not offended but I am curious.. :wink:

kalorama
06-11-2009, 01:28 PM
My biggest concern is that the characters will be shoehorned into new personality types to accomodate the story. This happened already with Photon in Next Wave.

And the result was a more interesting take on the character than we've seen in years, and a damned entertaining story.

GeorgiaUnity
06-11-2009, 04:55 PM
As for Monica's personality transfer, check out Steven Grant's column this week for how characters like Photon and the headlining black knight get shafted and why. (Permanent Damage)

I'm not a fan of Ellis' work, and I'll leave it at that.

RAS, on the other hand, has a penchant for taking the characters' established storylines and adding to, not detracting from. He creates new ideas while respecting the old, hence my excitement for the series.

And I think we're ignoring the BIG 'true' audience for this series and MODELS.....
(Pssst...it rhymes with "THE GAYS!") Of which I am one, so no foul.

We sure like our strong female leads!

Anywho, in response to a very early post...is the Bechdel test based on Alison Bechdel? :)

Spectra
06-11-2009, 09:06 PM
something not explained yet.. apparently Monica's powers have evolved.. the preview art shows her carrying people while flying. i'm not offended but I am curious.. :wink:


Monica tends to be physically insubstantial in her energy forms, though with concentration and effort she can sometimes perform tasks such as briefly grasping an object, either by partially solidifying or by applying some sort of force to the object in question. :cool:

chastmastr
06-11-2009, 09:20 PM
And I think we're ignoring the BIG 'true' audience for this series and MODELS.....
(Pssst...it rhymes with "THE GAYS!") Of which I am one, so no foul.

We sure like our strong female leads!

Anywho, in response to a very early post...is the Bechdel test based on Alison Bechdel? :)

Yep, me too! Roberto is family as well. :D

And yep, that is Alison Bechdel, creator of the excellent Dykes To Watch Out For comic strip.

http://parabasis.typepad.com/blog/2008/07/the-bechdel-test.html

Personally, I think Monica should finally reclaim her original name: Captain Marvel. I thought it was so cool (this was 1982) that they finally gave a "Captain" name to a woman, and she already was an actual captain (as well as a police lieutenant) rather than just calling herself that.

David

Spectra
06-11-2009, 09:36 PM
Personally, I think Monica should finally reclaim her original name: Captain Marvel. I thought it was so cool (this was 1982) that they finally gave a "Captain" name to a woman, and she already was an actual captain (as well as a police lieutenant) rather than just calling herself that.
David


Meh....I've moved on from the name. There is too much history connected to the Captain Marvel title plus Monica never gave herself the name the media did.

I think Pulsar sounds alot more feminine IMO than Captain Marvel or Photon.:wink:

Rurik
06-11-2009, 09:48 PM
I think she should just stick to Monica, it's not like she has a secret identity. If she's going to use any of her "super hero" names, she should go with Pulsar, at least a neutron star is a bit more intimidating than Photon. "Hello. I am a tiny insignificant particle. Put down your guns or I'll bounce off you undetectably."

Spectra
06-11-2009, 10:01 PM
I think she should just stick to Monica, it's not like she has a secret identity. If she's going to use any of her "super hero" names, she should go with Pulsar, at least a neutron star is a bit more intimidating than Photon. "Hello. I am a tiny insignificant particle. Put down your guns or I'll bounce off you undetectably."

I never understood why Monica and Luke Cage let their identities be know given the fact that they both have a family to protect. It's just weird to me....Luke's baby was just kidnapped by Skrulls...that's more of a reason to keep his identity secret IMHO.

So yes she should wear a mask like any other superhero and keep the Pulsar name and if Genis-Vell tries to take that name, it would look like he was just trying to f**k with her and get under her skin or maybe he likes her...lol

Rurik
06-11-2009, 10:10 PM
Bit late for that now though, unless she has the power to wipe the memories of everyone on the planet and just never shown it before, but I doubt that.

Spectra
06-11-2009, 10:16 PM
Bit late for that now though, unless she has the power to wipe the memories of everyone on the planet and just never shown it before, but I doubt that.

She could always make deal with Mephisto like Spidey or leave for a while and come back with a new look and bad ass costume. Maybe she could take that trip back to Wakanda and leave the scene...hmmmm..It could work:wink:

kalorama
06-11-2009, 10:22 PM
I never understood why Monica and Luke Cage let their identities be know given the fact that they both have a family to protect.

Luke Cage has never had a secret identity or worn a mask. His identity was publicly known long before he had a wife and kid.

Spectra
06-11-2009, 10:26 PM
Luke Cage has never had a secret identity or worn a mask. His identity was publicly known long before he had a wife and kid.


Maybe it is time for him to adapt and make changes for his family

Rurik
06-11-2009, 10:30 PM
Even if they got secret identities at this point, the only way they could keep their old enemies from trying to get to them through their families would be to fake their own deaths. If it were me, I'd probably look at it from the perspective; "If you screw with my family, I will hunt you down, and I will make your worst visions of hell seem like an amusement park."

pariah-1972
06-11-2009, 10:58 PM
Maybe it is time for him to adapt and make changes for his familyafaik he doesn't have any arch enemies so it doesn't really matter.

Spectra
06-11-2009, 11:08 PM
afaik he doesn't have any arch enemies so it doesn't really matter.


Willis Stryker aka Diamondback was a arch enemy of his. Knowing Marvel they may him back. Also have you read New Avengers #49? I would say Bullseye, Venom and Norman Osborn want a piece of him.

Dermie
06-11-2009, 11:12 PM
something not explained yet.. apparently Monica's powers have evolved.. the preview art shows her carrying people while flying. i'm not offended but I am curious.. :wink:

This subject was brought up earlier in the thread. Monica has been shown to be able to be solid and carry object/people in her energy form before. The earliest instance was in Avengers Unplugged when she knocked out Genis and was flying him back to Earth. She was also seen carrying objects while in her energy form during Busiek's Avengers/JLA crossover and Geoff Johns' Avengers runs.

I think she should just stick to Monica, it's not like she has a secret identity.

Which is just one of several elements of Monica's character that Nextwave got wrong. Monica always had a secret identity before that, and was rather selective of who she revealed it to--even among her fellow Avengers.

Hypestyle
06-12-2009, 11:52 AM
So Angelica is an art-history major? Curious.. We never did find out what she and Bobby were studying during the Amazing Friends tv show.. neat..

kalorama
06-12-2009, 05:37 PM
Maybe it is time for him to adapt and make changes for his family

Kind of too late for that.

kalorama
06-12-2009, 05:41 PM
Willis Stryker aka Diamondback was a arch enemy of his. Knowing Marvel they may him back.

How long has it been since he appeared in a story? And isn't he dead?

Also have you read New Avengers #49? I would say Bullseye, Venom and Norman Osborn want a piece of him. [/B]

And as head of the world's largest intelligence agency whose primary mandate is the oversight of superheros, it's pretty unlikely that Osborn would have any problem seeing through any disguise Cage adopts at this late date in his career.

zebop
07-05-2009, 02:58 AM
I'm a big fan of Monica/Photon and it's waaay past time for a comic featuring a Black woman, but DAMN, that art is putting a serious hurt on my eyes.

Hard to support a comic that makes pretty women look so ugly. :frown:

chastmastr
07-05-2009, 12:44 PM
Do you mean the art on the cover or the art on the inside? :confused: