Miniseries and Bendis

[AllisterH]

In the recent Isiah Bradley thread, posters mentioned they wouldn't want to see Bendis dealing with Blue Marvel since he changes things from the miniseries...

However, Bendis to my knowledge, seems like the only writer at marvel that likes to actually a) create his own toys, Jessica Jones for example and b) is willing to take one shot characters like Ares and use them. While Ellis himself used a forgotten character like American Eagle, Bendis seems to be the champion of "hey, nobody has used this character in a few years, good to dust him off....

So here's a question for the masses...Given Bendis track record with other "forgotten" and "one-shot" characters, would you be willing to given Bendis control over your favourite character that hasn't appeared since their miniseries/in the last 10 years?

[dreyga2000]

Given that Bendis currently has the keys to the kingdom... If Bendis starts writing about a character there's a good chance they'll become a gettinbig player in the marvel universe and get alot of play with other writers, and just maybe get a series or a mini....

Who wants to put money on Brother Vodoo getting a mini in a couple of months???

Unless you have an over the top irrational hatred for Bendis, I can only see this leading for good things for said character....

[Sighphi]

Ares is not a "one-shot" character.
A "one-shot" is freaking Dragon lord that appeared once a long time ago and then appears again, like, 20 years later to be in the background of a rumble for one comic or two.

Granted, most of his appearances come from his recent rebirth but he is one a "one-shot" character at all.

Anyway, ONE SHOT characters that havent been seen in years and only have a couple issues under their belt where the only thing they did was fight something, those are ok to bring back and adjust for whatever the writer wants.

Characters that have a history but make few consistent appearances should NOT be adjusted at all.

SPECIAL NOTE FOR NEW CHARACTERS----
Just make a new ones writers.
I cant understand for the life of my why new characters are picked up then used for whatever purpose the new writer wants.

Or make clear what's being accomplished. Meaning, this is a new version of X character.

For example: Some one just brought up to my attention that the Ares GOW mini could be considered out of continuity. This never came into my mind because everything fits nicely but if this is the way Bendis is looking at it then go ahead and tell us.

The same goes with Marvel Boy but since that is CLEARLY shown as happening in an alternate reality that sort of answers itself. What we have seen of Marvel Boy in 616 is the 616 version of Marvel Boy and not the one in the mini.

[Fat Cobra]

The same goes with Marvel Boy but since that is CLEARLY shown as happening in an alternate reality that sort of answers itself. What we have seen of Marvel Boy in 616 is the 616 version of Marvel Boy and not the one in the mini.

I'm assuming your referring to Noh-Var being from another reality because the miniseries does take place in 616 continuity. They are the same person. He just wasn't born in the 616 universe. At the end of the mini Noh-Var is imprisoned in the cube and those events lead right into New Avengers Illuminati and Civil War Young Avengers/Runaways.

[Maestro]

I don't care about a miniseries. I only care about the here and now and the Avengers titles. if Bendis has a good idea for a character he should go ahead and write it

[coldstar]

Eh, Bendis's writing seems much better to me on individual-character issues than team books... so sure. I'm not sure I'd trust his takes on any periphery characters he brings in as support, but in general he seems pretty good at getting the main characters in a story right--or at least interesting.

[Sighphi]

I'm assuming your referring to Noh-Var being from another reality because the miniseries does take place in 616 continuity. They are the same person. He just wasn't born in the 616 universe. At the end of the mini Noh-Var is imprisoned in the cube and those events lead right into New Avengers Illuminati and Civil War Young Avengers/Runaways.

That mini doesnt take place in 616....
And before we even get started, did you read it?
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE dont come at me with Wikipedia knowledge.
Please.

[GalactaSurfer]

Yes! Bendis can write any character he wants even if he doesn't write them as they were intended because at least they will get some shine.

[steveg887]

The same goes with Marvel Boy but since that is CLEARLY shown as happening in an alternate reality that sort of answers itself. What we have seen of Marvel Boy in 616 is the 616 version of Marvel Boy and not the one in the mini.

While the original mini-series was clearly not 616, it's been retconned to be so. The issues of New Avengers: Illuminati and Civil War: Young Avengers/Runaways make a clear bridge from his appearance from his original mini-series to Secret Invasion/Dark Reign.

Further proof of the series retroactively being 616 can be seen when Dr. Midas appeared in the Iron Man 2000 Annual and Oubliette in an issue of Ms. Marvel.

[Sighphi]

While the original mini-series was clearly not 616, it's been retconned to be so. The issues of New Avengers: Illuminati and Civil War: Young Avengers/Runaways make a clear bridge from his appearance from his original mini-series to Secret Invasion/Dark Reign.

Further proof of the series retroactively being 616 can be seen when Dr. Midas appeared in the Iron Man 2000 Annual and Oubliette in an issue of Ms. Marvel.

Your reply is basically the same thing i said. I just didnt call it a retcon, i called it 616 version.

[_OM_]

...If it were my choice, I wouldn't let Brian Bendis write the text for a sign pointing to the office bathroom.

[Babylon23]

I'm happy for Bendis to write any character he likes so long as he doesn't just completely change their history, powers and personality to suite his needs. If he can't keep the character straight then he should just leave them alone and create somebody new.

[steveg887]

Your reply is basically the same thing i said. I just didnt call it a retcon, i called it 616 version.

Sweet.

Agreement five.

[Fat Cobra]

That mini doesnt take place in 616....
And before we even get started, did you read it?
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE dont come at me with Wikipedia knowledge.
Please.

Um yeah I did read it actually. Knowing what I'm talking about means I got it from wikipedia? Lol, thats new.

[Umbra]

Given that Bendis currently has the keys to the kingdom... If Bendis starts writing about a character there's a good chance they'll become a gettinbig player in the marvel universe and get alot of play with other writers, and just maybe get a series or a mini....

Who wants to put money on Brother Vodoo getting a mini in a couple of months???

Unless you have an over the top irrational hatred for Bendis, I can only see this leading for good things for said character....

Agreed....

[Monty_Cristo]

However, Bendis to my knowledge, seems like the only writer at marvel that likes to actually a) create his own toys, Jessica Jones for example and b) is willing to take one shot characters like Ares and use them. While Ellis himself used a forgotten character like American Eagle, Bendis seems to be the champion of "hey, nobody has used this character in a few years, good to dust him off....

he has to just to justify all of the killing he does. he dusted off Carnage, too.

[Alan2099]

The less Bendis writes the better for me.

[Sighphi]

Um yeah I did read it actually. Knowing what I'm talking about means I got it from wikipedia? Lol, thats new.

No, making such a statement and ignoring the details makes it seem like you read a quick summary of the story.

[Babylon23]

However, Bendis to my knowledge, seems like the only writer at marvel that likes to actually a) create his own toys, Jessica Jones for example and b) is willing to take one shot characters like Ares and use them.

I'd check out some of Dan Slott's work on books like Thing and Avengers: Initiative. He managed to use a lot of 'lost' and forgotten characters and make them work. What's more, he did it without rewriting their histories and personalities.

[steveg887]

While I like that Bendis rescues characters from obscurity (Echo, Noh-Varr, MAO's Ares, Sentry, etc.), it seems like he doesn't do as much research on the character that's necessary and their traits seems off. I love the idea in theory, but I just wish the execution were better.

[Doc Goblin]

Sure, why not? I see no reason for Bendis not to take a crack at some of these characters. No, he's not a perfect writer and there are some character types he just doesn't do well with. But then there are some characters he does really well at.

I think he has a pretty weak grasp of Noh-Varr, but I like what he has done with Sentry and the Hood. His Ares isn't perfect but definitely entertaining.

[_OM_]

No, making such a statement and ignoring the details makes it seem like you read a quick summary of the story.

...If it was hacked together by Bendis, maybe that's all he could stomach?