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steve2275
06-08-2009, 02:42 AM
http://comics.ign.com/articles/988/988835p4.html

just another user
06-08-2009, 03:03 AM
http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/988/988835/marvels-days-of-e3-20090605033340847.jpg

Good to see Sage has a prominent role

DeadXMan
06-08-2009, 04:26 AM
http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/988/988835/marvels-days-of-e3-20090605033340847.jpg

Good to see Sage has a prominent role


That's not Sage. That's Ms. Hand. She's Normand second in command.

Think of her as Hill, but more ruthless and competent.

FeminineMystique
06-08-2009, 04:30 AM
That's not Sage. That's Ms. Hand. She's Normans second in command.

I've actually got a little theory about Ms Hand's REAL role in Dark Reign. People have been speculating that Norman isn't the true mastermind behind things, that he's either being used and/or directed by an unseen ally/puppetmaster most likely whoever it was he introduced to the villainous Cabal that we never learned the identity of.

I get the feeling that Hand IS that puppetmaster (Hence the name. An "Unseen Hand at work"? A "Helping Hand"? Villains do tend to love their incredibly bad puns when it comes to aliases) she's always around Norman, always consulting with him on various matters. Is she the little devil on his shoulder, goading him on? (Perhaps literally given that some Spider-Fans have suggested Norman's secret ally is Mephisto and "Dark Reign" is yet another of his attempts to screw with Spidey)

timbox
06-08-2009, 04:39 AM
I've actually got a little theory about Ms Hand's REAL role in Dark Reign. People have been speculating that Norman isn't the true mastermind behind things, that he's either being used and/or directed by an unseen ally/puppetmaster most likely whoever it was he introduced to the villainous Cabal that we never learned the identity of.

I get the feeling that Hand IS that puppetmaster (Hence the name. An "Unseen Hand at work"? A "Helping Hand"? Villains do tend to love their incredibly bad puns when it comes to aliases) she's always around Norman, always consulting with him on various matters. Is she the little devil on his shoulder, goading him on? (Perhaps literally given that some Spider-Fans have suggested Norman's secret ally is Mephisto and "Dark Reign" is yet another of his attempts to screw with Spidey)

This makes sense. Ms. Hand is Sage.

jamesfreeman
06-08-2009, 05:04 AM
This makes sense. Ms. Hand is Sage.

Why would Sage want to do anything like that? I don't really think she's Mephisto either, just because Dark Reign has fucked EVERYONE in the Marvel U, not just Spidey.
I'm starting to think she may be SCARLET WITCH.

Perfection/Emma 2
06-08-2009, 07:13 AM
Victoria Hand is one badass name. However I don't think she's calling the shot, it would be too much of heaven if she were "am so sexiest, can't stand male villains, but adore femele"

NewMutant
06-08-2009, 08:12 AM
That from Dark Avengers #6. Which is not part of the Utopia cross over. Its the last issue of the first arc. (The Dedato art, Silverstri is from the first chapter one shot.)

streator
06-08-2009, 09:08 AM
is ms. hand supposed to be tarantula or not? it kind of seems like a pointless thing to keep secret.

i'm surprised to see onyxx and bling!, seems kind of random. surge is around, too, which is confusing given her situation in x-force.

Aguja
06-08-2009, 09:41 AM
If Hand is not Sage then she needs to GTFO, she's totally stolen Sage's signature look. I would not want to anger an omniversial goddess if I were her.

AcesX1X
06-08-2009, 09:44 AM
If Hand is not Sage then she needs to GTFO, she's totally stolen Sage's signature look. I would not want to anger an omniversial goddess if I were her.

just add her to the list, along with danger and miss sinister.

worstblogever
06-08-2009, 09:49 AM
And Victoria's great, because when people piss off Norman he can be all, "Talk to the Hand." and walk away.

Aguja
06-08-2009, 09:52 AM
just add her to the list, along with danger and miss sinister.

Miss Sinister is acceptable because she is wonderful. Danger and this one can die though.

Also I love that Moonstone is subtly teasing Daken by pseudo flashing him.

Fatguy
06-08-2009, 09:53 AM
Victoria Hand is clearly Miss Sinister.

Seccruz
06-08-2009, 09:53 AM
just add her to the list, along with danger and miss sinister.

Let's not forget Omega Sentinel...

AN0LE
06-08-2009, 09:54 AM
And Victoria's great, because when people piss off Norman he can be all, "Talk to the Hand." and walk away.

Amazing......

FeminineMystique
06-08-2009, 09:55 AM
And Victoria's great, because when people piss off Norman he can be all, "Talk to the Hand." and walk away.

That pun actually caused me physical pain darling. And not the good kind ;)

jamesfreeman
06-08-2009, 10:01 AM
That pun actually caused me physical pain darling. And not the good kind ;)

That's a great idea for an X-villain: The PUN-isher. She makes bad puns that drive you to suicide.

jarrod
06-08-2009, 10:05 AM
Toad! I hope he's an X-Man now.

Frenzy went down pretty quick...

Giles
06-08-2009, 10:16 AM
That's not Sage. That's Ms. Hand. She's Normand second in command.

He he, I thought you wrote: "That's his Hand."

With Norman that would make sence, making a part of his body sec. in command. Crazy Normie.

Btw, the woman looks like Anastasia DeCobray.

Fatguy
06-08-2009, 10:16 AM
Frenzy went down pretty quick...

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/8751/32506646.jpg

Sighphi
06-08-2009, 10:33 AM
That's not Sage. That's Ms. Hand. She's Normand second in command.

Think of her as Hill, but more ruthless and competent.

Why would Ms. Hand suddenly start wearing weird armor and coloring her hair?

FeminineMystique
06-08-2009, 10:38 AM
Why would Ms. Hand suddenly start wearing weird armor and coloring her hair?

We can't even blame it on Land this time. Is it DEFINITELY Hand in that preview? Maybe it's a hero/villain who just looks a lot like her.

psycwave
06-08-2009, 10:41 AM
Toad! I hope he's an X-Man now.


He is the quintessential X-man now.

Tikal
06-08-2009, 10:43 AM
I've actually got a little theory about Ms Hand's REAL role in Dark Reign. People have been speculating that Norman isn't the true mastermind behind things, that he's either being used and/or directed by an unseen ally/puppetmaster most likely whoever it was he introduced to the villainous Cabal that we never learned the identity of.

I get the feeling that Hand IS that puppetmaster (Hence the name. An "Unseen Hand at work"? A "Helping Hand"? Villains do tend to love their incredibly bad puns when it comes to aliases) she's always around Norman, always consulting with him on various matters. Is she the little devil on his shoulder, goading him on? (Perhaps literally given that some Spider-Fans have suggested Norman's secret ally is Mephisto and "Dark Reign" is yet another of his attempts to screw with Spidey)


i think your right
i think i was one of the first people to start saying i think mephisto is norman's unknown ally
the spiderman connection why omd happened and why the writers were so insiten on doing it that way... i'm starting to think maybe theres a connection down the line

and ms hand is deffinetly going to be playing a bigger role down the line

Dagger
06-08-2009, 10:51 AM
Toad! I hope he's an X-Man now.

Frenzy went down pretty quick...
Which is kind of a surprise, considering what a huge lez she is.

mimic_616
06-08-2009, 10:58 AM
Toad! I hope he's an X-Man now.

Frenzy went down pretty quick...

What's with all the love for Toad? :confused:

Fatguy
06-08-2009, 11:00 AM
I liked Toad when he was a fat, useless lackey.

Dagger
06-08-2009, 11:03 AM
I liked Toad when he was a fat, useless lackey.
I liked Toad back when he was running the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants.
http://tatooine.fortunecity.com/bear/353/xforce5.jpg

Fatguy
06-08-2009, 11:05 AM
I liked Toad back when he was running the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants.
http://tatooine.fortunecity.com/bear/353/xforce5.jpg

I love that group, even though it needs more Mystique and Avalanche.

Dagger
06-08-2009, 11:06 AM
I love that group, even though it needs more Mystique and Avalanche.
Pass on the Mystique. That bitch tends to always hog the limelight. It could have been a heckuva lot hotter if Martinique were part of this group. Or some other equally hot female.

timbox
06-08-2009, 11:08 AM
Pass on the Mystique. That bitch tends to always hog the limelight.

Someone has to be the superior cast member.

Dagger
06-08-2009, 11:09 AM
Someone has to be the superior cast member.

That's what the blob is for. duh

Nyssane
06-08-2009, 11:12 AM
Pass on the Mystique. That bitch tends to always hog the limelight. It could have been a heckuva lot hotter if Martinique were part of this group. Or some other equally hot female.

Phantazia was all the female it needed.

Dagger
06-08-2009, 11:18 AM
Phantazia was all the female it needed.
Agreed. But it would have been nice to see someone else join up for a minute. Maybe have Thornn there. Copycat would be cool too.

XaviersMisprint
06-08-2009, 11:21 AM
Toad should join the X-Men. On a team with Pixie, Karma, and Northstar, imagine the disgustingly awesome possibilities.

Nyssane
06-08-2009, 11:23 AM
Agreed. But it would have been nice to see someone else join up for a minute. Maybe have Thornn there.

Thornn technically did join up for a minute, lawl.

I liked having Phantazia as the only female, since she clearly was not going to be romanced by any of the male members (who seemed to think she was a witch).

Dagger
06-08-2009, 11:25 AM
Thornn technically did join up for a minute, lawl.

I liked having Phantazia as the only female, since she clearly was not going to be romanced by any of the male members (who seemed to think she was a witch).
It was cool, but she was kind of cold. It really didn't make much sense for why she was there, you know. She just kind of showed up with the team. Was she the girl they made Sauron come back to? I never did understand what her origin was.

psycwave
06-08-2009, 11:58 AM
What's with all the love for Toad? :confused:

Toad = Magnificence.

Where have you been mimic_616.

steve2275
06-08-2009, 09:42 PM
its really the barroness from cobra
:tongue:

mimic_616
06-09-2009, 02:19 AM
Toad = Magnificence.

Where have you been mimic_616.

Toad = Magnificence?

Your right, where have I been? :confused:

worstblogever
06-09-2009, 02:36 AM
What's with all the love for Toad? :confused:

I liked Toad when he was a fat, useless lackey.

I liked Toad back when he was running the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants.
http://tatooine.fortunecity.com/bear/353/xforce5.jpg


I always liked Toad. He's got a lot of personality and secondary power developments, for a guy whose only power was having really strong legs, originally.

peopleofpaper
06-09-2009, 02:50 AM
http://i40.tinypic.com/2z6ypmp.png

are these girls x-men? i'm out of the loop. i think the one with the bangs might be Armor but I don't recognize anyone else.

4sake
06-09-2009, 02:56 AM
http://i40.tinypic.com/2z6ypmp.png

are these girls x-men? i'm out of the loop. i think the one with the bangs might be Armor but I don't recognize anyone else.

Yes they are, thats

Bling!
http://www.comicvine.com/bling/29-40669/

The 1 in the pink I think is Karma
http://www.comicvine.com/karma/29-9849/

The Guy on Fire is Match
http://www.comicvine.com/match/29-40674/

& You also have Warren there & I also believe the 1 with the bangs to be Armor.

peopleofpaper
06-09-2009, 03:25 AM
Yes they are, thats

Bling!
http://www.comicvine.com/bling/29-40669/

The 1 in the pink I think is Karma
http://www.comicvine.com/karma/29-9849/

The Guy on Fire is Match
http://www.comicvine.com/match/29-40674/

& You also have Warren there & I also believe the 1 with the bangs to be Armor.

oh ok thanks! i need to brush up on things.

ReaderX
06-09-2009, 03:45 AM
You know, Norman picking a fight with the x-men and somehow forcing Warren to reveal his dark side would make for an interesting story. But then it might also force the team to relocate again. Who'd want Death protecting their city after all?

AN0LE
06-09-2009, 07:42 AM
Who is the woman laying on the ground in the panel with Frenzy and Moonstone/Ms. Marvel?

Dagger
06-09-2009, 07:56 AM
Who is the woman laying on the ground in the panel with Frenzy and Moonstone/Ms. Marvel?

I don't know, but she's got some fabu door knocker earrings.

AN0LE
06-09-2009, 07:57 AM
I don't know, but she's got some fabu door knocker earrings.

Sheeiiiit I know 'dis to be true.

psycwave
06-09-2009, 07:57 AM
I always liked Toad. He's got a lot of personality and secondary power developments, for a guy whose only power was having really strong legs, originally.

Agreed. OMG we are gonna have to ressurect your Toad thread after this is all said and done WBE.

You now have new continuity for his bio.

Dagger
06-09-2009, 07:59 AM
Sheeiiiit I know 'dis to be true.
If she has some 90's high waist pants, and a midi shirt, she is gonna be FIERCE.
Agreed. OMG we are gonna have to ressurect your Toad thread after this is all said and done WBE.

You now have new continuity for his bio.
His best power was the awesome yellow teeth, and oozing that green crap from his hands that almost took out Teresa.

Anna
06-09-2009, 10:56 AM
IIRC, someone said that just about every mutant that's still viable is going to show up.

ExodusCloak
06-09-2009, 11:01 AM
IIRC, someone said that just about every mutant that's still viable is going to show up.

The Acolytes? In San Fran?

Anna
06-09-2009, 11:03 AM
The Acolytes? In San Fran?


Perhaps even the ones that Exodus didn't want.

ExodusCloak
06-09-2009, 11:06 AM
Perhaps even the ones that Exodus didn't want.

Hmm this could get quite ugly, there are still some really nasty powered mutants left. Too bad they killed Black Box he would be quite a pain in the neck for Norman Osborn.

FiddleFaddle
06-09-2009, 11:11 AM
And Victoria's great, because when people piss off Norman he can be all, "Talk to the Hand." and walk away.

Oh, that's boss

http://i40.tinypic.com/2z6ypmp.png

are these girls x-men? i'm out of the loop. i think the one with the bangs might be Armor but I don't recognize anyone else.

I like your avatar!

Who is the woman laying on the ground in the panel with Frenzy and Moonstone/Ms. Marvel?

I've been dying to know this too.

CmX
06-09-2009, 12:51 PM
In that shot from what I can tell it's Karma, Armor and Mercury or Bling! ?

MuhollandDriver
06-09-2009, 12:55 PM
In that shot from what I can tell it's Karma, Armor and Mercury or Bling! ?

That isn't Bling!, people.

You didn't hear?

In the tradition of Loki and Black Panther, Prism of the Marauders is resurrected as a female.

Watch out for those telekinetics, gorgeous.

CmX
06-09-2009, 12:57 PM
That isn't Bling!, people.

You didn't hear?

In the tradition of Loki and Black Panther, Prism of the Marauders is resurrected as a female.

Watch out for those telekinetics, gorgeous.

I hope you're right. I always hated Bling!. I'm hoping it's Mercury.

Prodigy55
06-09-2009, 12:58 PM
Match <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

7thangel
06-09-2009, 01:19 PM
Yes they are, thats

Bling!
http://www.comicvine.com/bling/29-40669/

The 1 in the pink I think is Karma
http://www.comicvine.com/karma/29-9849/

The Guy on Fire is Match
http://www.comicvine.com/match/29-40674/

& You also have Warren there & I also believe the 1 with the bangs to be Armor.that looks more like the new look for mimic even though it's not a dark x-men crossover