The Latest from "Post-Racial" America

[4PointOh]

New from the Land of Myths:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/03/sotomayor-cartoon-in-ithe_n_211114.html

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/83989/thumbs/s-SOTOMAYOR-CARTOON-hugebw.jpg

[Charles RB]

I'd presume the point of the cartoon was to say a lot of Republicans are going to be merrily hitting out at Sotomayor now she's on the Supreme Court - after all, they did do that.

But I don't know why Obama is being drawn in.

[4PointOh]

I'd presume the point of the cartoon was to say a lot of Republicans are going to be merrily hitting out at Sotomayor now she's on the Supreme Court - after all, they did do that.

But I don't know why Obama is being drawn in.

Also present in that picture is Sotomayor, a woman of Puerto Rican descent, being depicted as a pinata, an object from Mexican culture. And then there's Obama with a sombrero.

I'm confused by what the satirical message is supposed to be.

[Grazzt]

But I don't know why Obama is being drawn in.

Presumably, they all want to take a shot at her, but they know that if they do they'll be depicted as racists. Obama is encouraging them because he knows he wins either way.

[Red Jack]

"Post racial."

Wow. I always forget how much I enjoy nonsense phrases.

Off to read the Complete Edward Lear now for the good version.

[Charles RB]

I'm confused by what the satirical message is supposed to be.

There's this new female Hispanic judge and because she's female Latina, the Republicans are going to eagerly attack her because she's a female Hispanic judge - and (Coke to Grazzt) Obama hopes they'll do that because the media's watching, and they'll look bad.

There's an ugly assumption there that Obama made her a Supreme Court judge to bait Republicans for political gain.

[4PointOh]

There's this new female Hispanic judge and because she's female Latina, the Republicans are going to eagerly attack her because she's a female Hispanic judge - and (Coke to Grazzt) Obama hopes they'll do that because the media's watching, and they'll look bad.

There's an ugly assumption there that Obama made her a Supreme Court judge to bait Republicans for political gain.

But what do Puerto Ricans have to do with Mexican culture?

[Calybos]

Haven't you heard? All Hispanics and Latinos are Mexican. It's a U.S. cultural law.



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[Free-Man]

Haven't you heard? All Hispanics and Latinos are Mexican. It's a U.S. cultural law.



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Yes. Larry the Cable Guy got it passed.

[Charles RB]

But what do Puerto Ricans have to do with Mexican culture?

Well, either the cartoonist doesn't know the difference or thinks the audience won't know the difference.

[4PointOh]

Well, either the cartoonist doesn't know the difference or thinks the audience won't know the difference.

Therein lies my problem with the satire. Either the author is ignorant or he's making fun of ignorant people--but his cartoon doesn't make that clear.

[Pink Bat Maxine]

"Post racial."

....Am I not white anymore? :confused:

As for the cartoon, the fact that it looks more like a lynching than a piñata at first glance? Not very helpful.

[Pink Bat Maxine]

Haven't you heard? All Hispanics and Latinos are Mexican. It's a U.S. cultural law.



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Also, Iberians.

[Kyuubi]

What about the Portuguese? I've never been quite sure about that.

[Pink Bat Maxine]

What about the Portuguese? I've never been quite sure about that.

Iberian! Hence, Mexican.

[Venom Melendez]

Haven't you heard? All Hispanics and Latinos are Mexican. It's a U.S. cultural law.



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Unless they're in New York or Chicago.

[Kyuubi]

Iberian! Hence, Mexican.


YES!



Fuck you, Gringos!

[CaptainCanada]

There's an ugly assumption there that Obama made her a Supreme Court judge to bait Republicans for political gain.
Which he absolutely did. One of the many aspects of the nomination that works so well. You don't think that Obama will be plastering Sotomayor's face on Spanish-language fundraising mailers come the next election? It's a 'barrier' that has absolutely zero political downside to him, because Hispanics are a heavily courted political group and anyone who says something racist-sounding will get pounced on by the press, and he can use it to alienate Hispanics further from the Republican Party.

As to the pinata thing, she's usually called the first Hispanic (or Latina) SC nominee, hence, the Hispanic/Latina pinata; and the pinata is a common metaphor for this sort of situation anyway. Particularly since her appointment is heralded as a watershed for all Hispanics, not just Puerto Ricans.

[J.R. LeMar]

Clarence Thomas got much worse.

[NickThompson]

Therein lies my problem with the satire. Either the author is ignorant or he's making fun of ignorant people--but his cartoon doesn't make that clear.
I think he's making fun of people not knowing. It's the Sombrero that kicks it over for me, without that I'd be more uncertain, I don't think it's that common a thing to be claimed to be worn by non-Mexicans. But I'm not in America, so I could be wrong.


What I find a bit odd though is the link you post has two comments, and neither is going at the angle we are. The first is talking about it being offensive to women, the other comments on it being a minority strung up on a tree and apparently totally missing the Pinata reference.

[buttler]

Clarence Thomas got much worse.

Actually I think he's always been this bad.

[Eliseu Gouveia]

What about the Portuguese? I've never been quite sure about that.


I´m mexican now?

Ay, carago!

[Crowforge]

Also present in that picture is Sotomayor, a woman of Puerto Rican descent, being depicted as a pinata, an object from Mexican culture. And then there's Obama with a sombrero.

I'm confused by what the satirical message is supposed to be.
Editorial cartoonists are paid to be assholes. None of this reflect what I've been seeing all my life, that racial barriers are eroding.

[Kyuubi]

I´m mexican now?

Ay, carago!



Yes my fellow Mexican, the plan to retake the US territory goes along as planned.

[Crowforge]

Yes my fellow Mexican, the plan to retake the US territory goes along as planned.
Not funny.

[J.R. LeMar]

Actually I think he's always been this bad.

Hmmm...I see how that could have been misread. What I meant is that Justice Thomas got much worse treatment in cartoons directed @ him when he was first nominated, than Judge Sotamayor has gotten, so far. I remember seeing cartoons (mostly in Black newspapers) depicting him tap-dancing, and wearing KKK robes, among other gems. It hasn't stopped since he's been confirmed.

http://howard53545.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/cartoon.jpg

I had that magazine, the inside had a cartoon of him shining Justice Scalia's shoes.

[Calybos]

I´m mexican now?

Ay, carago!

My god... it's a Stealth Empire! Mexico has conquered half the planet, and we didn't even know about it!!





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[4PointOh]

Editorial cartoonists are paid to be assholes. None of this reflect what I've been seeing all my life, that racial barriers are eroding.

Depends entirely on your geography.

[Charles RB]

Yes my fellow Mexican, the plan to retake the US territory goes along as planned.

"Reclaim the stolen territory", surely?

[Briareos]

So when are you bigots going to apologize for your treatment of Miguel Estrada?

[Kyuubi]

"Reclaim the stolen territory", surely?



I was talking about buying out Pink Berry, but that works too.

[Paul McEnery]

Hmmm...I see how that could have been misread. What I meant is that Justice Thomas got much worse treatment in cartoons directed @ him when he was first nominated, than Judge Sotamayor has gotten, so far. I remember seeing cartoons (mostly in Black newspapers) depicting him tap-dancing, and wearing KKK robes, among other gems. It hasn't stopped since he's been confirmed.

http://howard53545.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/cartoon.jpg

I had that magazine, the inside had a cartoon of him shining Justice Scalia's shoes.

Thomas got attacked as a token because he is a token. Duh!

Actually, not the word people would use round my neck of the woods, but why not keep it bland for once.

We might also question why it's supposed to be wrong for black journals to caricature black people, especially extreme right wingers who've bought in.

[Paul McEnery]

So when are you bigots going to apologize for your treatment of Miguel Estrada?

No, please. Tell us, person by person, who on this thread you're calling a bigot.

[Kyuubi]

No, please. Tell us, person by person, who on this thread you're calling a bigot.



Don't feed the troll.

[Lester C.]

Why is it that people in both parties keep glossing over that President Obama is half white and was raised by white grand parents.

[Crowforge]

Why is it that people in both parties keep glossing over that President Obama is half white and was raised by white grand parents.

What am I suppose to say about that exactly?

[40footwolf]

Also present in that picture is Sotomayor, a woman of Puerto Rican descent, being depicted as a pinata, an object from Mexican culture. And then there's Obama with a sombrero.

I'm confused by what the satirical message is supposed to be.
Same here, I'm not really offended so much as befuddled. Like...what are they trying to say, exactly?