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jmc247
06-03-2009, 12:33 PM
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Another strong issue... the Exiles are captured and tell Emma that they are here to save their world from cataclysm by dethrowning Magneto. In the end Emma and Jean read Magneto's mind and find out he didn't fight hard enough in a battle against Sentinels which lead to Xavier's death, because he was attracted to Moira and saw him as a romantic rival. The art of this issue is on par with the last issue as was the dialogue. One thing I was amazed with was how many X-characters they were able to fit in this book as well as how much interpersonal interaction.

So, Magneto is dethroned and the Exiles excape to a new universe, only to find out that according to Blink removing Magneto didn't do anything to stop the coming apocalyptic cataclysm on the world they had been on. I had wondered since last issue how getting rid of Magneto would solve any of the massive potentally explosive conflicts between Emma and Jean, Polaris and Wanda, humans and mutants, etc I guess according to Blink it didn't.

Next up... Machineworld.

DeniseXfrost
06-03-2009, 12:35 PM
Sounds great. I'll download it soon.

Waterlily
06-03-2009, 12:58 PM
L
O
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!!!!!!!

AcesX1X
06-03-2009, 01:12 PM
sounds like morph needs a spanking.

sage is going to be so mad when she finds out about this cosmic screw-up.

HeckBoy
06-03-2009, 01:13 PM
Wait, so that's it, the Magneto-Men get blown up? Does that mean the new Exiles failed their first mission?

jmc247
06-03-2009, 01:17 PM
Does that mean the new Exiles failed their first mission?

They took down Magneto which was their origional goal, but according to Blink removing him didn't stop the fact that things were heading toward an Apocalyptic cataclysm on that world given all the conflicts that were ongoing between the various factions of mutants on Genosha and between humans and mutants.

Hi-Fi
06-03-2009, 01:21 PM
Another great issue. Parker is so right for this book. I really wanna see him handling Sage now! I bet she'll be funny as hell in his hands.

IvCNuB4
06-03-2009, 01:21 PM
Don't read if you don't want to be spoiled.
Another strong issue... the Exiles are captured and tell Emma that they are here to save their world from cataclysm by dethroning Magneto. ...

So, Magneto is dethroned and the Exiles excape to a new universe, only to find out that according to Blink removing Magneto didn't do anything to stop the coming apocalyptic cataclysm on the world they had been on. I had wondered since last issue how getting rid of Magneto would solve any of the massive potentally explosive conflicts between Emma and Jean, Polaris and Wanda, humans and mutants, etc I guess according to Blink it didn't.

Next up... Machineworld.

Fixed that for ya.
Yeah. They aren't throwing Magneto. They're removing him from his throne :biggrin:

worstblogever
06-03-2009, 01:42 PM
You know.... off the top of my head, I can't remember what specifically happens if the Exiles FAIL a mission. I don't recall it happening. I think Weapon X(iles) may have failed one, but I can't recall. The world is doomed, but what are the consequences of failure for the Exiles, if they change things and just leave?

Jeff Parker made failure into a winning formula. How cool is that? What will this mean? I gotta keep reading to find out...

And Blink's trying to front like she's new to all this to her teammates, still. Like she's never had a Tallus on before... it's a bit of intrigue, too.

It's good to see the spirit of Exiles isn't lost. This was a lot of fun. I tried putting myself solely against picking up a new series, and not adding anything to my pull list... but this is really too good for me to pass up.


Next arc, an Ultron/Vision/Machine Man crush the fleshy humans arc? SOLD!

RoguishGurl
06-03-2009, 01:56 PM
This issue was really good. I love how well this team works together. I can't wait until we see even more characterization for the members. This book is definitely one of my favorites.

darknessatnoon
06-03-2009, 02:09 PM
I'm kind of bored by Wanda, but Black Panther is actually charming me.

Hi-Fi
06-03-2009, 02:11 PM
I'm kind of bored by Wanda, but Black Panther is actually charming me.
I love this Wanda! And yeah, Black Panther is very charming. Blink is great. Beast and Forge don't do much for me yet. Polaris is fun, but she seems very arrogant to me.

darknessatnoon
06-03-2009, 02:12 PM
I love this Wanda! And yeah, Black Panther is very charming. Blink is great. Beast and Forge don't do much for me yet. Polaris is fun, but she seems very arrogant to me.

What is there to love about her? She's a prig.

Hi-Fi
06-03-2009, 02:15 PM
What is there to love about her? She's a prig.
She's cute and shy and she reminds me of Sheila from that Dungeons & Dragons cartoon.

http://wayne.mondochrome.ca/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/sheilathethief.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_fkAoltYEaL0/SOqgNu--p_I/AAAAAAAAAMg/0lBhrUucQTQ/s400/sheilaDD.JPG

darknessatnoon
06-03-2009, 02:16 PM
She's cute and shy and she reminds me of Sheila from that Dungeons & Dragons cartoon.

http://wayne.mondochrome.ca/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/sheilathethief.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_fkAoltYEaL0/SOqgNu--p_I/AAAAAAAAAMg/0lBhrUucQTQ/s400/sheilaDD.JPG

This conversation is over.

worstblogever
06-03-2009, 02:40 PM
I'm kind of bored by Wanda, but Black Panther is actually charming me.

He has a lighthearted nature to him, doesn't he? He's not a wet blanket, nor does he take himself too seriously like his 616 pappy would.

Excelsior
06-03-2009, 02:54 PM
He has a lighthearted nature to him, doesn't he? He's not a wet blanket, nor does he take himself too seriously like his 616 pappy would.

teenage rebellion.


I know I broke my dads heart when I turned NERD


gotcha.

:tongue:

sneggz
06-03-2009, 03:26 PM
I see Sage has upgraded the teams transport.

Omega Alpha
06-03-2009, 08:13 PM
That was very fun. I loved the twist with the Exiles succeeding, yet failing at the same time. I think we haven't seen the last of this world yet.

And who was Emma sleeping with, BTW? Havok thinks Mags is into her, but she seemed too casual when talking about it with Lorna, and being Cyke would explain her rivalry with Jean, and the confrontation part.

Bronze Badger
06-03-2009, 08:16 PM
She's cute and shy and she reminds me of Sheila from that Dungeons & Dragons cartoon.

http://wayne.mondochrome.ca/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/sheilathethief.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_fkAoltYEaL0/SOqgNu--p_I/AAAAAAAAAMg/0lBhrUucQTQ/s400/sheilaDD.JPG

In the second pic she is sitting on the unicorn. :wink:

Zel
06-03-2009, 08:26 PM
It was a fun issue. I wonder what's up with the Tallus, with the new teleport window and leaving a mission undone.

One odd thing was that after they were arrested Blink and the girls got changed out of their dresses and into their costumes instead of prison uniforms. Why didn't the guys encased in ice all suffocate to death? It's ice, not a stasis field, at least try to pretend this stuff is for reals.

Didn't like the cover, Blink does not wear panties. Although Wanda was making the little red riding hood look work.

worstblogever
06-03-2009, 08:30 PM
Didn't like the cover, Blink does not wear panties. Although Wanda was making the little red riding hood look work.

She does now. Sage requires all staff to wear panties on the job. She's the only one who fights while having onomatopoeia being the only thing over her va-jay-jay. Them's the Neo-Roma rules.

Jronnan
06-03-2009, 10:27 PM
I think the original mandate of the exiles was to help wolverine overthrow magneto not to do it themselves. Hence teh mad fails.

XaviersMisprint
06-03-2009, 10:37 PM
Loved this issue. Salva Espin is a perfect artist for the issue. Not only is he fun and colorful, he is an excellent storyteller as well and can capture a lot of different tones, even with a bright color pallet.

Parker is a great writer for the book too. I imagine this book being a huge success, much like the first series pre-Claremont. Blink is baaaacccckkk!!!!


Who do you guys think will bite the bullet first? Its Exiles, there is bound to be death all up and down.

I'm going to say Polaris or Forge. Most likely Forge, though. Black Panther is a new character to us, not existing in 616, so I imagine they're going to have fun with him. Blink is going to be around as the series selling star, and I can see Beast sticking around. He is interesting and I like his bizarre and bulky appearance. The Witch seems mysterious, but I can't tell if thats just because she's boring or not. I like her design a lot.

Flâneur
06-03-2009, 10:39 PM
I think the original mandate of the exiles was to help wolverine overthrow magneto not to do it themselves. Hence teh mad fails.

Correct.

It must be assumed that the Exiles' 'failure' prevented Wolverine from becoming the mutant Messiah with back hair.

I'm also annoyed that Wanda has the pointy hat, I preferred the hoodie. Ghetto Wanda was fantastic.

blinkinrogue
06-04-2009, 11:49 AM
havent gotten the issue in my hands yet, but already had one reserved as exiles sell out in the blink of an eye in my LCS (#1 and #2 sold out within 2 days both).

Nachturne
06-04-2009, 12:24 PM
The joke is wearing thin, WHERE IS NOCTURNE?!

worstblogever
06-04-2009, 01:25 PM
The joke is wearing thin, WHERE IS NOCTURNE?!

Have you checked the abortion clinic, love? *runs*

GDB
06-04-2009, 03:08 PM
Who do you guys think will bite the bullet first?

I'm going with Forge.


Blink obviously won't go anywhere, she's too much of a staple for the EXiles franchise.
Panther is a break-out hit. In fact, I could see him becoming so popular that he gets dumped off in 616 so other writers can use him at some point.
Polaris and Witch seems to have a dynamic that Parker wants to explore more, which isn't exactly possible in 616 at the moment.
Beast has a lot more story to tell, since he's so vastly different from his 616 counterpart.


Forge, on the other hand, seems to be constantly threatening Blink's role of leadership. I say... out with the usurper!

ivesaidway2much
06-04-2009, 03:21 PM
One odd thing was that after they were arrested Blink and the girls got changed out of their dresses and into their costumes instead of prison uniforms. Why didn't the guys encased in ice all suffocate to death? It's ice, not a stasis field, at least try to pretend this stuff is for reals.If I'm not mistaken, people in extreme cold temperatures can last much longer without air than under normal conditions. You're not dead, until you're warm and dead.

Kylun123
06-04-2009, 04:43 PM
Correct.

It must be assumed that the Exiles' 'failure' prevented Wolverine from becoming the mutant Messiah with back hair.

But their failure only occurred after Wolverine was good and dead / they never had a chance, according to your suggestion, to succeed . . .

Somebody
06-04-2009, 08:15 PM
*enjoyed the issue, although I wish Blink's costume/dress would go back to full-length again, at least*

I'm going with Forge.


Blink obviously won't go anywhere, she's too much of a staple for the EXiles franchise.
Panther is a break-out hit. In fact, I could see him becoming so popular that he gets dumped off in 616 so other writers can use him at some point.
Polaris and Witch seems to have a dynamic that Parker wants to explore more, which isn't exactly possible in 616 at the moment.
Beast has a lot more story to tell, since he's so vastly different from his 616 counterpart.


Forge, on the other hand, seems to be constantly threatening Blink's role of leadership. I say... out with the usurper!
But the Forgecaps seem to be intended as part of the format now. And Parker's said that he's not out to off the characters straight away anyhow.

Polaris... confuses me. The way she's generally been written seems at odds with the way she was presented in her death-by-Sentinel. "Her" rules of the "hemisphere"? "Terror of Polaris"? (yes, I know it was a Sentinel that said that, and so it is probably less-than-objective, but the fact that they made a Sentinel "just for her" is indicative). And yet she's showing no particular signs of doing anything that, frankly, MU-Polaris wouldn't do in her saner moments - even her dynamic with the Witch seems slightly needy, if anything. She doesn't seem like someone who controlled half a world, so is she acting in her interactions with the Exiles?

*adds everyone who's dragged Sage into this thread so far to his ignore list. Life's too short*

But their failure only occurred after Wolverine was good and dead / they never had a chance, according to your suggestion, to succeed . . .
That's quite possibly the entire problem, though - if they get dropped in with an objective that involves "help Wolverine" and one of the first things they see is Wolverine RIP, well...

pariah-1972
06-04-2009, 11:47 PM
I'm really looking forward to the next arc and moving away from a strictly X-universe concept and I love Machine Man.

MarvelGirlBoy
06-05-2009, 08:06 AM
I really like the art in this. It's simple, but nice to look at.

Still the best comic in the line at the moment. But I am already finding Forge tedious.

AcesX1X
06-05-2009, 08:44 AM
*adds everyone who's dragged Sage into this thread so far to his ignore list. Life's too short*
...

i'm going to laugh at you so hard when jeff parker finally reveals sage to be the mastermind behind this entire operation.

Flâneur
06-05-2009, 08:52 AM
But their failure only occurred after Wolverine was good and dead / they never had a chance, according to your suggestion, to succeed . . .

Exactly.

The primary Exiles stuffed up royally by sending Blink and her recruits in too late. Parker has already shown us that the Exiles don't entirely 'get' what is going on and it's outside their control. I expect this is how he'll eventually bring the remaining Exiles from the first volume into the story.

Excelsior
06-05-2009, 09:36 AM
I really like the art in this. It's simple, but nice to look at.

Still the best comic in the line at the moment. But I am already finding Forge tedious.

So did Storm. Zinnnggggg

Kylun123
06-05-2009, 10:35 AM
Why does Blink have to pretend that she's never done this before?

AcesX1X
06-05-2009, 10:47 AM
Why does Blink have to pretend that she's never done this before?

sage will explain it in a few issues.

timbox
06-05-2009, 10:48 AM
Is Blink the focus of this book, or do the boring characters get a lot of spotlight?

Kylun123
06-05-2009, 11:32 AM
Is Blink the focus of this book, or do the boring characters get a lot of spotlight?

In my estimation it's spread out pretty evenly.

She's the character we're most familiar with so it feels like there's still a lot to learn about the other characters' histories, but I think they all get fair face-time.

Personally I'm a fan of Forge.

But I've found most others on the boards inclined towards Polaris, the Witch, and the Black Panther.

Swashbuckler
06-05-2009, 11:41 AM
Over all I really enjoyed this first arc, although I felt the last issue was the weakest of the three. I'm enjoying Blink, Beast and Polaris a lot, but Black Panther is boring me to tears. I just can't be bothered with him. Perhaps I'm too grossed out by his 616 version to enjoy him. I do look foward to the next arc, and I hope that they soon they let an AU version of FERAL join this squad. She could hook up with Beast.

pariah-1972
06-05-2009, 11:51 AM
Why does Blink have to pretend that she's never done this before?Maybe she doesn't want to play leader anymore?

Beast
06-05-2009, 12:05 PM
Maybe she doesn't want to play leader anymore?
Considering she is playing leader, that doesn't quite work.

I think the Exiles realized that once they had control, they focused more on downtime rather than simply working to save the Multiverse. Once they had the crystal palace and downtime between missions, things started to fall apart. Which is why they put the whole Timebroker ploy back into play. So that the new team is forced to do the job, rather than ignore it for personal drama and relationships. Also why they removed the hope of going home when they fixed what ever was broken. Since they pulled them away from their worlds at the moment they would have died and stated that they can't go home again. But if time allows they'd be able to show them how their worlds progressed after they died.

worstblogever
06-05-2009, 12:09 PM
Considering she is playing leader, that doesn't quite work.

I think the Exiles realized that once they had control, they focused more on downtime rather than simply working to save the Multiverse. Once they had the crystal palace and downtime between missions, things started to fall apart. Which is why they put the whole Timebroker ploy back into play. So that the new team is forced to do the job, rather than ignore it for personal drama. Also why they removed the hope of going home when they fixed what was broken. Since they pulled them away from the moment they would have died and said that maybe as time allows they'd be able to show them how their worlds progressed after they died.

And, to expand that thought, Sage, Blink, and Morph thought it over and having an "inside player" on the team might guide them to play along, as opposed to the awkward way the Timebroker was lording over the original Exiles, way back when.

Mind you, if this incarnation of the Exiles finds out they're being manipulated by a "handler" on the inside, well... they might become much less cooperative.

Beast
06-05-2009, 12:17 PM
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's the direction Jeff Parker's going with this.

But then, it's because I'm such a fan of his work and have a bad habit of guessing where he's going. :biggrin:

I hope the reveal of Sage, Blink, Morph, etc. pulling the strings doesn't come out too soon though.

AcesX1X
06-05-2009, 12:21 PM
well, what i really want to know is who chose this team and why.

did sage pull up a preview of various worlds and her, blink, and morph started randomly picking out their favorites from a hat?

or did she leave the selection process up to blink and just provide the pros and cons of each?

was the reason that sage selected morph as her messenger because of his amazing ability to make light of even the most serious of situations?

did sage specifically pick these people out of strategy?

whose idea was it for blink to go into deep cover and why? did sage give blink some sort of trigger word so that she would remember everything if necessary?


jeff parker, these questions cannot linger for much longer.

worstblogever
06-05-2009, 12:22 PM
was the reason that sage selected morph as her messenger because of his amazing ability to make light of even the most serious of situations?


Morph is a pretty good communicator, when you think about it.

Dizzy D
06-05-2009, 12:24 PM
whose idea was it for blink to go into deep cover and why? did sage give blink some sort of trigger word so that she would remember everything if necessary?


Oh dear, a pink Diana Fox in waiting.

Umbra
06-05-2009, 12:32 PM
Over all I really enjoyed this first arc, although I felt the last issue was the weakest of the three. I'm enjoying Blink, Beast and Polaris a lot, but Black Panther is boring me to tears. I just can't be bothered with him. Perhaps I'm too grossed out by his 616 version to enjoy him. I do look foward to the next arc, and I hope that they soon they let an AU version of FERAL join this squad. She could hook up with Beast.

Why am I not surpised.

Swashbuckler
06-05-2009, 12:36 PM
Why am I not surpised.

Because you like to stero-type me as if you know me. That's why.

Kylun123
06-05-2009, 01:08 PM
Why am I not surpised.

hahaha . . . as if this Black Panther is anything like the one from the regular universe . . .

Beast
06-05-2009, 01:29 PM
hahaha . . . as if this Black Panther is anything like the one from the regular universe . . .
Yeah, I really like the Exiles version of Black Panther. Can't say I can say the same about the 616 one.

Scavenger
06-05-2009, 01:53 PM
Considering she is playing leader, that doesn't quite work.

I think the Exiles realized that once they had control, they focused more on downtime rather than simply working to save the Multiverse. Once they had the crystal palace and downtime between missions, things started to fall apart. Which is why they put the whole Timebroker ploy back into play. So that the new team is forced to do the job, rather than ignore it for personal drama and relationships. Also why they removed the hope of going home when they fixed what ever was broken. Since they pulled them away from their worlds at the moment they would have died and stated that they can't go home again. But if time allows they'd be able to show them how their worlds progressed after they died.

That feels a bit cold hearted for the Morph and Blink we know. And the "You can't go home...EVER" bit seems like poor motivation. There's another shoe..if not a whole shoe store..waiting to drop. (And Blink's ongoing confusion tells me she's not been to Payless lately........)


I wonder if i took that metaphor too far..

Beast
06-05-2009, 01:57 PM
There's no place for emotion when it comes to saving all of creation.

And I don't think Blink's really confused. She's clearly aware of how it's supposed to work.

The only area where she seems confused is in regard to how things arn't working like they used to.

pariah-1972
06-05-2009, 02:28 PM
It's almost hard to believe this arc was done in three issues.

Kylun123
06-05-2009, 03:07 PM
It's almost hard to believe this arc was done in three issues.

Yeah I hope that's par for the rest of this course.


It's interesting to hear everybody's theories regarding Sage and the others' true intentions. I've never read Exiles on a regular basis and was lead to believe that this was a brand-new series (to a degree), and it would be somewhat curious if all of a sudden all of us new readers who just jumped on were exposed to an underlying conspiracy that we're not privy of.

Curious to see if that's the direction Parker is taking . . .

Beast
06-05-2009, 03:17 PM
He's said from the beginning that he wasn't ignoring anything that came before.
That he was going to build on what came before, but bring back some of the mystery.

Jeff's a great writer who loves playing with established and obscure continuity.
That's why his X-Men: First Class and Agents of Atlas have been such great books.

Somebody
06-05-2009, 03:33 PM
And I don't think Blink's really confused. She's clearly aware of how it's supposed to work.

The only area where she seems confused is in regard to how things arn't working like they used to.

Exactly. She cuts herself off halfway through "But that never happens" and "No, it doesn't work like that" (at least, that's the gist of it) and nearly blows her cover as a result - if the others already had suspicions that she's a plant, that would have confirmed it for them.

blinkinrogue
06-05-2009, 03:44 PM
maybe that's the point of them not selecting telepaths into the team, so they wont suspect blink of being a plan (if that was indeed the case). however, they have met jean grey and emma, but even if the two did read clarice's mind, i dont think they'd have bothered to tell the other exiles.

Excelsior
06-05-2009, 05:57 PM
The unexpected can be fun.


JP and crew proves the adage.

Grapeweasel
06-07-2009, 10:29 AM
I really want to like this title.

But Polaris, Forge, Beast, Black Panther seem too similar to characters currently active in the 616.

I'm not sure what they're supposed to be exiled from....

Omega Alpha
06-07-2009, 10:46 AM
I really want to like this title.

But Polaris, Forge, Beast, Black Panther seem too similar to characters currently active in the 616.

I'm not sure what they're supposed to be exiled from....

Polaris and Forge maybe, but it's too soon yet.

Beast is different from his 616 counterpart.

And Black Panther has few similarities.

RoguishGurl
06-07-2009, 06:05 PM
I read through this again and I must say, I really love that splash page of them entering another world. I think the change of artist to show they are in a different world is very clever I wonder if this will become a reoccurring thing.

steve2275
06-08-2009, 01:36 AM
I really like the art in this. It's simple, but nice to look at.
next wont look bad either

justinkos91
06-08-2009, 01:41 AM
Beast is different from his 616 counterpart.

How so? Minus the tail and "lesser vocabulary"...

GDB
06-08-2009, 11:51 AM
How so? Minus the tail and "lesser vocabulary"...

The fact that he's noticably more of a "Beast" and less of a "Doctor."