Morrison's JLA or Johns' Teen Titans/JSA? Which is the better series?

[[]D[]/\/\[]D @ Nite/So-tite]

With respects to Winghead's thread. I wanted to start a comparison and discussion regarding the two's team books.

[dumbstruck]

JLA. Magnificent Seven. Global threats. Howard Porter and John Dell. A fun, slam-bank super-hero comic.

TT. Angstification of what were fun characters in Young Justice. Angstification that wasn't necessary. Much like Barry Allen's mother (?) now having been brutally murdered to drive him to be a cop.

JLA wins, hands down.

[FanboyStranger]

I'd throw out TT altogether, and say that Johns' JSA, particularly when he was co-writing with David Goyer, is the best of the bunch. Morrison's JLA is a close second, though.

[Shellhead]

Morrison's JLA run was mostly brilliant but somewhat uneven, and cursed with some fairly bad artwork that was a showcase of almost everything wrong with comic art in the '90s. There were a few bad issues, most notably the teamup with the JSA.

Johns' Teen Titans started okay, but quickly went downhill due to all the angst that dumbstruck mentioned above. Johns didn't have any apparent interest in Vic or Kory, but was apparently required to use them, so they stood around useless most of the time.

Johns' JSA was generally very good, up until he got distracted working on Infinite Crisis. He tended to write great arcs and intermittent lackluster filler issues. He was clearly fond of these heroes and delivered a lot of very memorable scenes. After the opening arc of the more recent JSofA series, the Gog/Magog story dragged out way too long. By the time he left, I was really looking forward to Willingham and Sturges on the book.

Of the three comics, I have to say that I enjoyed JSA the most.

[Kylun123]

The only one I've read is Morrison's JLA so I will abstain from writing.

Loved the first arc . . . but found Rock of Ages to be typical, muddled, compressed Morrison that rubbed me the wrong way most of the time.

[Paiute 1]

I did not read Titan's, maybe I'll pick it up in Trade but John's JSA rocked.

I assume your talking about the first series?

[Blind pugh]

Here's hoping this doesn't go the way of the other Morrison Vs Johns thread!

Only read bits of Johns' TT but after enjoying Young Justice I found it jarring.

I found his JSA enjoyable but unremarkable When money tightened it was dropped that was maybe 2 issues into thy Kingdom come.

Morrison's JLA I loved & for me personally it wins.

[Karl O'Neill]

These threads are too wierd.

[Darrell D.]

Morrison's JLA all the way. It was very story driven, much like the Silver Age stories, yet continually exciting and fun. Although, the art could have been a lot better.
Teen Titans? Ugh. Bland, boring and depressing.
JSA. Some decent arcs in the Johns/Robinson/Goyer. Nothing special, but not bad.

[Shellhead]

As the poll is structured, I had to vote JLA. JSA was much better than Teen Titans, but if they are a combined choice, then I choose JLA.

[Will.S]

JLA bar none compared to Geoff's Teen Titans.

JSA I haven't read much more than what I read in 52, Final Crisis, and Lightning Saga.

[WorstThingUS]

JLA. Magnificent Seven. Global threats. Howard Porter and John Dell. A fun, slam-bank super-hero comic.

TT. Angstification of what were fun characters in Young Justice. Angstification that wasn't necessary. Much like Barry Allen's mother (?) now having been brutally murdered to drive him to be a cop.

JLA wins, hands down.


I have nothing to add. You nailed it. Not to mention, we got a much more entertaining version of Final Crisis in "Rock of Ages."

[Zero Hunter]

Here's hoping this doesn't go the way of the other Morrison Vs Johns thread!
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It will. They all do when they are about Morrison. Pretty soon someone will call it confsuing and muddled then the Morrison fans will start colling people that didn't like ti dumb and not smart enough to get it. Same thing every time there is a thread a baout Morrison.

[dreyga2000]

Is this really fair... Two on One....

The combine awesomeness of JSA and TT should top most if not all comic book runs...

[Rev. Calibos]

Morrison's JLA.

I have every JSA comic as single issues and in trade and honestly I thnk it told a better story throughout its long run, but the JLA was by far my favorite book of the 90's.

Great action, a real 'Summer Blockbuster' feel to every issue, it was your one stop shopping for DC comics.

In fact, I'd wager that if you went back to that time frame and asked DC fans what book they would keep if they could only get ONE per month I'd bet the answer would be JLA.

[Ilash]

First off, let's immediately count out Teen Titans. I liked it enough as it came out - the early issues I mean - but I think less and less of it as time goes on. It really ain't great.

Johns' JSA vs. Morrison's JLA is a much more interesting question though. First, lets discount Johns' retitled Justice Society. It's fine but I for one think it's a shadow of the book at its best. And at its best, it was really good. Specifically from the mid-twenties to the end of Black Reign. Good stories, good characters, good action.

That said, it's Morrison's JLA. Of course, it's Morrison's JLA.

[ScottyQuick]

Morrison's JLA.

Why?

It's not Johns' Teen Titans.

[Desaad]

Johns JSA was at times very, very good. The Mordru, Return of Hawkman, Extant, etc arcs were all very good...it was consistently gold up until the Johnny Thunder arc, where it became more hit and miss (and it still pulled out Black Reign, which was excellent).

But Morrison's JLA was the best team book I've ever read, hands down. Just an amazing piece of work from start to finish. Every arc was excellent, to some degree. In my mind, no team book run - Busiek's Avengers, Johns JSA, etc - has ever rivaled Morrison's JLA.

[DeTroyes]

Loved Johns' Teen Titans; second best Titans run ever. Also enjoyed his JSA.

Liked Morrison's JLA, but not enough to overcome Johns' work.

[kingdom2000]

If pure JSA vs JLA....virtual tie for me cause a fan of the Kingdom Come arc
But for pure fun of reading, Morrison wins, but only by a touch.

[FunkyGreenJerusalem]

Really?

JLA by fifty thousand million miles!

Take everything Joe and Pol said was wrong with Johns GL, withdraw my objections, multiply it, and apply it to his Teen titans, and at least the start of his JSA.

JLA was THE superhero book when it came out - nothing else was close.

JSA was an attempt to recapture that, and Teen Titans was just an abortion.

[Ilash]

Just wondering but how many of you guys are referring to the old series of JSA, not just to the relaunched Justice Society book?

[Rev. Calibos]

Just wondering but how many of you guys are referring to the old series of JSA, not just to the relaunched Justice Society book?

Old JSA.

I've picked up issue 26 of the new series but haven't read anything more than that.

Old JSA? I've read 'em all.

[Michael P]

Morrison's JLA made being a superhero look pretty awesome.

Johns's Teen Titans, not so much.

[Babylon23]

Morrison's JLA started strong but really petered out towards the end. The first few stories were excellent. WWIII not so much.

JSA remained consistenly strong throughout most of its run. Love the characters, loved the storylines, loved the art. While I enjoyed JLA, JSA wins hands down for me.

Teen Titans should definitely be taken out of the equation. It wasn't bad but was not even close to matching the other books.

[Blind pugh]

Just wondering but how many of you guys are referring to the old series of JSA, not just to the relaunched Justice Society book?
I wasn't sure which I was being asked to weigh so I lumped them both together for decision making purposes.

[FanboyStranger]

I weighed my response more heavily in favor towards JSA over Justice Society of America. For starters, nearly four times as many issues. Plus, far better overall, especially through issue 50... the quality wanes a bit after that, although Black Reign was fantastic. I also counted JSA-JLA: Virtue and Vice as part off Johns' run.

[Armless Penguin]

Where's the Young Justice option?

[NickFury90]

I like how its two against one and still the best team book is winning.

[Calybos]

Just wondering but how many of you guys are referring to the old series of JSA, not just to the relaunched Justice Society book?

Doesn't matter to me. I like the characters better in the JSA, and that's why I read it.



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[C-Cool]

Johns TT run is miles below the other two books.

Johns' JSA vs. Morrison's JLA is like Johns' Flash vs. Waid's Flash: A damn hard choice to decide on.

I have more favorite characters on the JSA, but Morrison's JLA was beyond the normal, cool, superteam.

But I still have more favorite characters on the JSA.

So, excluding Teen Titans, JSA wins for me barely.

And I never want to read, no, experience the amount of ill-spirited bickering that appeared in that last thread. And I only lurked.

Seriously, both sides should have stopped to say, "Hey. This argument has nearly destroyed the creditability of most of the people arguing in this thread. Maybe we can say sorry to each other, and actually be people for once, not cold blooded internet drones."

It made me sad that those people were fans of those creators, because that's what turns other readers off those creators: a venomous fanbase that can't shut up.

[FunkyGreenJerusalem]

Seriously, both sides should have stopped to say, "Hey. This argument has nearly destroyed the creditability of most of the people arguing in this thread. Maybe we can say sorry to each other, and actually be people for once, not cold blooded internet drones."

It came close to happening, then one person jumped in and started name calling.

And then acted like it was no biggie, and everyone was a wimp for going 'yeah, you just stirred shit'.

[Joe Rice]

It came close to happening, then one person jumped in and started name calling.

And then acted like it was no biggie, and everyone was a wimp for going 'yeah, you just stirred shit'.

Yeah, I was wrong say you were whining, when you're still whining about it. OH NOEZ SO SORRY

[FunkyGreenJerusalem]

Yeah, I was wrong say you were whining, when you're still whining about it. OH NOEZ SO SORRY

I'm not whining, I'm saying you were a dick, you dick.

[Zeraze]

I picked Morrison's JLA without hesitation. I could read that from the time he started until the time he left and enjoyed the entire run.

Johns' integration into the JSA title has a lot of fantastic, great moments, but it has a few bumpy parts I didn't really enjoy. Overall I would agree that it was a great run, but ultimately it falls below Morrison's JLA.

[T Hedge Coke]

I'd rate Morrison's JSA above Johns, and he only wrote them guesting in JLA.

[DC_FanBoy]

JSA was awesome. Although I like Morrisons' JLA, (I am re-reading it right now) it can be jumpy but JSA is just badass! The ability to juggle such a large cast but feel like everyone is a star is a testament to the writers skills.

[Scrubz]

Is this a joke question? :biggrin:

Morrison's JLA for a myriad of reasons that I won't list.