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Sean Walsh
06-01-2009, 11:52 AM
http://www.newsarama.com/php/multimedia/album.php?aid=28366

Looks bloody wonderful.

Reads.......eh, not so bloody wonderful, but decent.

In fact, it seems to read like they knew the art was gonna bloody wonderful and just extended the dialogue (in this case, Hal quitting) to several more pages than it needed to be.

And did I mention it looks bloody wonderful? :smile:

booziehand
06-01-2009, 12:14 PM
The aarte does just jump out at you. This looks great

K-DoG7p7
06-01-2009, 01:27 PM
So Ollie is going along with him to prevent him for becoming all Paralaxian again?

Karl O'Neill
06-01-2009, 01:52 PM
Wow, Nice art.

celticguy
06-01-2009, 02:20 PM
Ollie is right

Oh boy!


When does this take place wasn't Libra defeated before Bruce died? I am afraid the meaning of this book might be lost in the aftermath of FC mostly becasue it is so delayed.

numberONE
06-01-2009, 02:22 PM
Art's great I'll say that much!

Sean Walsh
06-01-2009, 02:44 PM
When does this take place wasn't Libra defeated before Bruce died? I am afraid the meaning of this book might be lost in the aftermath of FC mostly becasue it is so delayed.

It's definitely post-FC and pre-World of New Krypton/JLA #31.

Libra did a weird "warped away at the last second" escape in FC #7 (or 6, don't even remember anymore), in a scene which looked like it was supposed to be his death but was awkwardly rewritten. So he's out there.....somewhere..... *sigh*

celticguy
06-01-2009, 03:01 PM
but he no longer has a new god in him I suppose so are they hunting the wrong guy?

Sean Walsh
06-01-2009, 03:11 PM
but he no longer has a new god in him I suppose so are they hunting the wrong guy?

Libra never had a New God in him. It was the original guy, merged with the universe back in the 1970's and then yanked into the dimension of the Fourth World by Darkseid to serve as his prophet on Earth.

Stressfactor
06-01-2009, 03:16 PM
So Ollie is going along with him to prevent him for becoming all Paralaxian again?No, Ollie's going with him because they're best friends. And because Ollie spent months traveling in an old, beat-up pick-up truck with him several years ago the last time Hal decided that he didn't want to do things the way they had always been done. And Ollie knows what happened during that time period, and what changed for both of them....

Retro315
06-01-2009, 03:41 PM
Oh boy.

I'm dying to hear what Hal says next. Although I can't IMMEDIATELY help but notice that he's focusing all his time on how they lost J'onn and Bruce but not even mentioning that they've gotten Barry back ... he's focusing on the negative with no eye for the positive.

But he's right.

The art is amazing - that's a good looking Superman if I ever saw one ... really splitting down the middle the Gary Frank "purely Christopher Reeve" look with the modern comic look right down the middle. Balanced between "steroid shredded" muscles and more of a natural build ... medium sized "S" emblem ... bold primary colors ... yes indeed, that's a good looking Superman.

Of course, they ALL look equally that good. Hal looks like Hal always should. It's about time Ollie started sporting the Renaissance fair Robin Hood cap again ... etc ... it's weird that of this whole group of original JLA'ers and long-time members (and a couple newbies like Jason Rusch and Kendra Saunders) that the only one who's going to go with Hal is Supergirl.

I mean ... I'd peg Aquaman as being a sure bet for agreeing with Hal, but he's got an excuse. Still, I'm curious about Hawkman and what's preventing him from agreeing that more proactive justice is necessary. He's pretty forward and aggressive.

celticguy
06-01-2009, 04:06 PM
why is hawkman there? After FC hawkman and hwakgirl were on the injured list or so I thought. BC says she is inative for the time being but there she is in full unifrom?

Thanks Sean I did not know that about Libra.

K-DoG7p7
06-01-2009, 04:13 PM
why is hawkman there? After FC hawkman and hwakgirl were on the injured list or so I thought. BC says she is inative for the time being but there she is in full unifrom?

Thanks Sean I did not know that about Libra.

might just be there because hal called inn everyone.. may not be JLA active.. but might still be ok..

Retro315
06-01-2009, 04:20 PM
why is hawkman there? After FC hawkman and hwakgirl were on the injured list or so I thought. BC says she is inative for the time being but there she is in full unifrom?

Thanks Sean I did not know that about Libra.

This scene in particular, and possibly more parts of Cry For Justice # 1 ... and who knows beyond that ... but definitely this scene in particular ... takes place before the last issue of JLA where Black Canary had to deal with this very scene happening ... several months in advance ...

Of course, it seems to take place AFTER The Flash: Rebirth and BEFORE World of New Krypton (no way of knowing where exactly BFTC falls, since it's unknown if Dick would just up and join the JLA as Batman immediately).

Anyway ... being that this is pretty immediately post-Final Crisis, Hawkman and Hawkgirl must immediately take their time off following this scene, but BEFORE Black Canary talks to Roy in the graveyard in the JLA issue.

Which is as backwards as anything can be in comics that have multi-issue arcs but are released monthly, but them's the breaks.

Final Crisis > The Flash: Rebirth > Cry For Justice > JLA#31.

I'd go beyond that ... but god, there's just always going to be too much to try to break it down in greater detail than a handful of story arcs. Damn beloved continuity.

Matt
06-01-2009, 04:32 PM
I have to admit, this looks very interesting.

Static-Pulse
06-01-2009, 06:55 PM
Am I the only one getting cracked up about Hal talking about the losses that happen each Crisis? Of the four Universe rending Crises (CoIE, ZH, IC, and FC), he caused one. Isn't that like Lex Luthor complaining about the dangers of Kryptonite?

SMKSPY
06-01-2009, 07:28 PM
Am I the only one getting cracked up about Hal talking about the losses that happen each Crisis? Of the four Universe rending Crises (CoIE, ZH, IC, and FC), he caused one. Isn't that like Lex Luthor complaining about the dangers of Kryptonite?

Well, Hal has experienced both sides of each Crisis. The hero and villain, so (at least to me) this drive at being more proactive against villains seems very fitting of his character. It also works well with him being a cop, and frankly, Hal has more than proven himself since his return, so it's quite nice to see him assert himself as a leader and powerhouse of the super-hero community.

Super Buddies Forever
06-01-2009, 08:15 PM
Why is Hal calling Superman "Kal"? I thought he was one who usually went with Clark.

KYLeo71
06-01-2009, 08:29 PM
Why do some artists insist on drawing Wonder Woman with half her vag about to fall out the bottom of her wondersuit?

Karl O'Neill
06-02-2009, 01:17 PM
Why is Hal calling Superman "Kal"? I thought he was one who usually went with Clark.

he always calls him that.

WorstThingUS
06-02-2009, 01:58 PM
I've never been one to be influenced by art, but the artwork almost makes me want to pick this up. However, Robinson's recent disappointing run on Superman puts me off as does the entire "amnesia" premise of this series, not to mention its incredibly poor origin depiction in JLA (though this does try to correct that horrific depiction of Hal, Ollie and Dinah as a bunch of immature teenagers rather than full grown adults who have literally been to hell and back). A pro-active JLA both under the JLA (JLA Task Force) and separate (JLA Elite) had been done and there's even been an independent team (The Outsiders under Nightwing), so why are they acting like this is even a remotely new or radical idea? Given that Hal is one of the JLA's founders why does he have to leave to do it? He has every right to steer the JLA in this direction or at the very least start up the Task Force again and it makes no sense that anyone would begrudge him this.

Sorry, but the very premise of this commits the cardinal sin of changing the characters to suit the story (something I'm seeing far too much of in Robinson's work) rather than the other way around, so I'll have to wait for another series to enjoy Cascioli's art.


Why do some artists insist on drawing Wonder Woman with half her vag about to fall out the bottom of her wondersuit?

Welcome to superhero comics.

Will.S
06-02-2009, 02:08 PM
The art looks nice but I can't say that it reads particularly great.

I'm not so sure if I want to pick it up.

Christopher Cross Is God
06-02-2009, 03:24 PM
I'm so glad I wasn't looking forward to this book.

celticguy
06-02-2009, 03:31 PM
I withhold judgement until I see how he sells it the others. GA will just support him sincethey go back, but I wantto see if he has a good reason to drag Marvel, Supergirl and the Atom etc, in the mix.

I also hope one of them at least mentions that this idea has been tried before and the team always ends up reacting to the problem presenting itself rather than being proactive.

WorstThingUS
06-02-2009, 09:34 PM
I also hope one of them at least mentions that this idea has been tried before and the team always ends up reacting to the problem presenting itself rather than being proactive.

Unfortunately, I think the real answer is that writers just have no clue how to write a proactive team having never read any while growing up. Even this isn't really a pro-active team. It's a response to the latest Libra-organized Secret Society. He just wants to hunt them down. It's more Justice League: Posse.

Vic Vega
06-02-2009, 10:02 PM
Unfortunately, I think the real answer is that writers just have no clue how to write a proactive team having never read any while growing up. Even this isn't really a pro-active team. It's a response to the latest Libra-organized Secret Society. He just wants to hunt them down. It's more Justice League: Posse.

Winnick's Outsiders was a fairly good example of a proactive team at first. So was Justice League: Elite.

The best example would be Suicide Squad. Mainly because that book draws on a different genre for insipration. The Spy genre.

Super Heroes are primarily reactive(Help, Superman! There is a bank robbery on Main Street!) Spys (T.V. spys anyway) are proactive.

Your next mission, should you decide to accept it is...

Spiffy
06-02-2009, 10:38 PM
http://www.newsarama.com/php/multimedia/album.php?aid=28366

Looks bloody wonderful.

Reads.......eh, not so bloody wonderful, but decent.

In fact, it seems to read like they knew the art was gonna bloody wonderful and just extended the dialogue (in this case, Hal quitting) to several more pages than it needed to be.

And did I mention it looks bloody wonderful? :smile:
Feh. Hal is going to remind Supes he's a cop on the next page, right? That's what Lanterns are after all. And cops pursue criminals, they don't only fight them when they attack.

But really this seems like its the leadup to a thematic rehash of the horrible Salvation Run. Oh, not the part of it we saw, but this is like the same "round them up and deal with them once and for all" theme leading up to that. Is that what we can expect to FOLLOW this?

Also, its nice to see Black Canary being all assertive and leading the League and all. Oh wait. No. She doesn't appear to be doing that.

WorstThingUS
06-02-2009, 11:07 PM
Winnick's Outsiders was a fairly good example of a proactive team at first. So was Justice League: Elite.

The best example would be Suicide Squad. Mainly because that book draws on a different genre for insipration. The Spy genre.

Super Heroes are primarily reactive(Help, Superman! There is a bank robbery on Main Street!) Spys (T.V. spys anyway) are proactive.

Your next mission, should you decide to accept it is...

It's funny you mention that because I was thinking of examples and the first thing that popped into my mind were Bond films where we open up with Bond already in the middle of a mission, not knowing it's going to lead to something bigger that will be the plot of the film.

And The Outsiders had one of best premises of the last decade: forced to release an army of supervillains from prison to save lives, The Outsiders must now hunt them all back down. Did that even make to the following issue?