Batgirl possibilities narrowed down?

[Captain Jim]

In Mike Marts recent interview at IGN (http://comics.ign.com/articles/988/988283p1.html), he reveals the current "wall" of his office, with pictures of various heroes and villians posted beneath the titles in which they will appear. Beneath the "Batgirl" title we see four young women pictured (in this order): Spoiler, Oracle, Cassie and Misfit. Marts also states that the new Batgirl IS pictured on the wall (presumably under the Batgirl title).

As interesting as those listed are those NOT listed. High among recent guesses has been Wendy, the Calculator's daughter (he's pictured; she is not). A number of persons have also suggested Squire for this role (wishful thinking, I suspect). Presumably this puts them both out of the running.

Given all the comments made previously that this is a new person in the role (at cons and in the solicitations), it still seems that Cassie is out of the running. (Cassie fans, don't attack me for this; I'm simply reporting what I see.) That would seem to leave Stephanie, Babs and Misfit (never can remember her real name). I still have doubts about Babs, despite my earlier guesses otherwise.

At this point I'm thinking it's Stephanie, with Misfit being a long shot.

So, what do you think?

[Joe Acro]

Given all the comments made previously that this is a new person in the role (at cons and in the solicitations), it still seems that Cassie is out of the running. (Cassie fans, don't attack me for this; I'm simply reporting what I see.) That would seem to leave Stephanie, Babs and Misfit (never can remember her real name). I still have doubts about Babs, despite my earlier guesses otherwise.

At this point I'm thinking it's Cassie, with Misfit being a long shot.

So, what do you think?So, you think comments and solicitations take Cassandra out of the running, but you're still thinking it's her?:confused:

[Captain Jim]

So, you think comments and solicitations take Cassandra out of the running, but you're still thinking it's her?:confused:

Argh, I misspoke (or mistyped, or whatever). Thanks for pointing that out.

I meant Stephanie!

[Alexx1]

With Spoiler absent from the Red Robin board and on Batgirl board it seems like it will be her. I still can't rule out Misfit though with the "secret" and all she was keeping in BFTC: Network. Something is up with her and it's not a coincidence it was written the way it was and to now see her name under the Batgirl board.

[Captain Jim]

With Spoiler absent from the Red Robin board...

Yeah, from the board you get the impression that Vicki Vale is Red Robin's companion, not Stephanie.

[Alexx1]

Yeah, from the board you get the impression that Vicki Vale is Red Robin's companion, not Stephanie.

Do you think they'd go "there" with Vickie and Tim? Is he legal yet? Or maybe she'll just be moral support and she'll find out Bruce is missing and try and help Tim.

[Frisky Dingo]

Do you think they'd go "there" with Vickie and Tim? Is he legal yet? Or maybe she'll just be moral support and she'll find out Bruce is missing and try and help Tim.

No way they would go there with Vicki and Tim. I see her being a "companion" in a sense that she's going to help in the search to find Bruce.

[Captain Jim]

No way they would go there with Vicki and Tim. I see her being a "companion" in a sense that she's going to help in the search to find Bruce.

Yeah, that was my thought. Potential for a great news story here, she thinks.

[Alexx1]

Yeah, that was my thought. Potential for a great news story here, she thinks.

So you think she'll be using him (Tim). I don't know a lot about the character so I'm just tryiing to see what she's like.

[Captain Jim]

Seems consistent with the ending of Batman Alive.

[Alexx1]

Seems consistent with the ending of Batman Alive.


True. So I guess it's safe to say Vickie Vale is an opportuntist and not very sincere. I take it from read Batman alive her feelings for Bruce were very genuine.

[CYOTI]

I still think there are going to be three batgirls (misfit, spoiler and cass) ala the Tangent Joker.

[AiyokuSama]

So, what do you think?

I'm still hoping it's Cass. The whole thing about Cassandra Cain not haven't a place in the batfamily....I think it's a play on words. I suspect we'll discover that Bruce pushed through the adoption papers before his "death" so she's now Cassandra Wayne.

[AiyokuSama]

You know, looking at the Batgirl pictures again....

Cass' is of her as Batgirl, even though there are LOTS of pictures of her out of uniform. The caption is even "Batgirl (C. Cain)."

So, yeah, I'm thinking that's the answer right there :)

[Spiffy]

You know, looking at the Batgirl pictures again....

Cass' is of her as Batgirl, even though there are LOTS of pictures of her out of uniform. The caption is even "Batgirl (C. Cain)."

So, yeah, I'm thinking that's the answer right there :)
Actually that seems to imply there's more than one to account for. That's all. It could be because there actually ARE multiple ones. Or it could be a case of "even internally here at DC lets not air her new identity".

Barbara isn't up there as "Batgirl (B. Gordon)" because few people see her that way. Ergo, "Oracle". Now if Barbara was up there as BARBARA GORDON then it might make sense to see Cassandra up there out of uniform and called "Cassandra Cain" on the pic.

Besides... Spoiler is up there IN COSTUME as Spoiler (and not Stephanie Brown), and yet we know its pretty likely she won't be called that anymore or be wearing that. So why would Cass be up there out of HER uniform or with her civilian name?

[Henker]

Marts also states that the new Batgirl IS pictured on the wall (presumably under the Batgirl title).
Maybe it's a trick. Maybe he's referring to the ENTIRE board, and not necessarily under the Batgirl heading. So it could end up being Jason Todd or something (he's stolen everyone else's identity already, why not?).

Anyway, I'm thinking it's Steph at this point too. The Batgirl fanbase is a fairly divided lot, and Steph taking up the mantle will probably piss off the least amount of people. Steph is a lighter character for those who thought Cass was too dark, and Cass fans tend to also be Spoiler fans. The hardcore "Babs only" fans are still going to disappointed though.

[AiyokuSama]

Spoiler is up there IN COSTUME as Spoiler (and not Stephanie Brown), and yet we know its pretty likely she won't be called that anymore or be wearing that.

We "know"? Did I miss something? All I've seen to date is speculation based on the end of Robin. I'm not convinced that Steph will give up the Spoiler costume/name. She been told to give it up before by various people, yet she's still Spoiler.

[Spiffy]

We know it's "LIKELY". That inherently implies that its not a promised or sure thing, just that its the possibility thats being teased the most.

[AiyokuSama]

We know it's "LIKELY". That inherently implies that its not a promised or sure thing, just that its the possibility thats being teased the most.

As I said, I'm not convinced on that one.

[FemGeek]

That does indeed narrow down some BG candidates, though I never thought it would be Squire or Wendy. I'm still thinking it's Steph, but I am glad to see Cass up on the board. That had better have a damn good explaination as to why she wont be Batgirl anymore, but mostly I hope they change their minds about de-cowling her.

[CocktailXYZ]

Spoiler, Oracle, Cassie and Misfit. Marts also states that the new Batgirl IS pictured on the wall (presumably under the Batgirl title).

I think they're tricky enough to not presume one of those four will take the role. I'm with Henker's supposition that it's a trick and Batgirl will be someone else on the board not under the Batgirl heading.

[DonC]

I don't think we're supposed to know who Batgirl is right now. I get the feeling the first story arc will be a "Who is Batgirl?" kind of deal.

[Captain Jim]

I don't think we're supposed to know who Batgirl is right now. I get the feeling the first story arc will be a "Who is Batgirl?" kind of deal.

Well, if it's not Cassie (and I don't think it will be), I certainly think the first story will transition from her to whoever the new person is. (After all, she does appear under "Batgirl" on the wall, so she has to have some connection.)

[paulski]

Yeah, Steph's starting to look pretty good right now, which pleases me,

But there's still time for DC to f*ck it all up... :frown:

[Name Already Taken]

Just a personal hunch, but I think that the Bat current editors and writers might reintroduce Stepanie as the new Batgirl. Now, I have little basis for this other than current solicits as a guess, but she may as well be Batgirl traveling the world with Tim as Red Robin when not in Gotham after the beginning. Despite my own desire to see Babs under the cowl again swinging from roof to roof in a new series that 'DiDio wants restored to the classic interpretation' for various DC characters, I think Steph was kind of thrown under the bus in recent years. With her being the new Batgirl under Bab's wise tutelage while Bruce is gone (and the right writer initially to gain interest in whatever title), I think she could do great.

I like Cass for who she is as Batgirl even if her recent turn was rather brutal, and would like to see Barbara as the title persona again, if not as Batwoman, but I could easily follow Steph if she were written right in the next year or so. She was kind of given the short end of the stick as both Robin andas her own costumed persona. She has more than enough exposure to comic fans for Bat titles, with enough personal history from her own lineage being Cluemaster's, relationship with the current Robin, filled the same cowl herself even though briefly, and her messed up 'death' and explanation for her whereabouts from Leslie Thomkins to shed light on it.

Stephanie Brown has much to work with, especially if she is under the giudance of the original Batgirl. As I stated before, I wouldn't mind her trying to find her way in a new series as Batgirl. Of all the possibilities listed for this thread by others, she seems to offer the most potential for future spins, even after her current role has served its purpose imo.

[Spiffy]

Just a personal hunch, but I think that the Bat current editors and writers might reintroduce Stepanie as the new Batgirl. Now, I have little basis for this other than current solicits
Heh. Are you new here? :tongue: Honestly, this has been the main conclusion of most people here for months (and in most of the previous posts in this topic too).

That doesn't invalidate your intuition on this. It just seems odd that you phrased things as a declaration instead of as a continuation of the existing opinions already in this topic.